Separatist Senate on Raxus debates The Clone Wars | Star Wars: The Bad Batch Episode 10 Reference

A scene from Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 3 Episode 10 "Heroes on Both Sides" in which the Separatist Senate on Raxus Secundus debates The Clone Wars.
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Star Wars: The Bad Batch Episode 10 cearly plays with similar themes as these Clone Wars episodes. One could argue that from a certain point of view, Separatists were actually the good guys in the Clone War conflict. The Separatist Council/Parliament consisted of many idividuals that were striving to do good, much like some on the Republic's side, hence the Heroes on Both Sides title.
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[@LoreFreak]

The Clone Wars writers made such a good choice by introducing the Separatist Senate in the series, really enjoyed seeing these episodes plus they helped Ahsoka to grow as a character, foreshadowing her eventual fate and growing disillusionment with the Republic and the Jedi.

[@Sprizzy]

I really love the design choice of the Separatist Senate, it looks like Parliament lol.

[@travisj6927]

That because it is one lol Separatist Senate also known as Separatist Parliament!

[@giacomobettiol818]

For me it's inspired on the british one

[@SpeedyWings2323]

That’s due to it being an actual parliament instead of a senate but they are called both, officially it is known as the Separatist Parliament

[@TheKingofbrooklin]

I would like to know which position the executive seperatist council to this parliament had ?

[@johnlavery3433]

I mean the senate could be the utter or lower house of the overall parliament

[@evanthompson7494]

Sometimes I wish Dooku was really just an individualistic fallen jedi who thought his actions were weakening the sith unaware he was giving them strength. Seems more interesting then him just being the apprentice.

[@Deathmare235]

One great thing about Dooku is he was shown as that and not as the apprentice though maybe he just turned more evil or he really believed his Sith way was good

[@aarkansinghal6633]

Honestly the reason Dooku started the Separatist movement was to help thousands of systems that were simply ignored by the republic. The only drawback was that he had become a Sith.

[@federicohernandez7221]

Agreed is so stupid that an old man of 80 years put himself at the service of a man much younger.

[@jameshetherington1]

@@federicohernandez7221 sith idolise power, not age

[@Mediados]

@@aarkansinghal6633 Sith ideology is not necessarily bad. It simply tells you to do anything necessary to overcome your enemies and gain more power. I believe that if the Seperatists would have won the war, Dooku killed Palpatine and became Supreme Leader of the Seperatist Army, the galaxy could have been saved.

[@denv55]

this is one of the major reasons why people should watch the clone wars series, it explains both political view on both sides instead of just saying “oh the separatists are bad”

[@benjaminbierley2074]

Personally enjoyed some of the political aspects of CW others say they hated, like this, and if you pay attention you realize Took his duping the paraliment, and in the big picture intentionally stacking the sep. military with ruthless horrible people to make them easier villains for the republic.

[@Jaerek]

This episode was great. The issue I have with TCW was that it confined the nuanced view of a war to this one episode, while it was happy fooling around with 5+ episode long sisters arcs and copious amounts of comic relief with Jar Jar episodes or battle droids in general. It was like you would watch some straight kino before the show just had to remind you “oh, right, this is still a Saturday morning cartoon”.

[@overlordmgcover2262]

@@benjaminbierley2074 If politics are used in the right way (like in Star Wars) they can vastly enrich a story.

[@Charlie0l9]

Unfortunately this view is not shared with Rebels, where the empire are not only just bad, but cartoonishly bad.

[@Mediados]

@@Jaerek Definitely, the episodes vary in quality A LOT, but the more the show progresses the better it gets. Season 1 is certainly not something I feel like rewatching, there is literally no important plot.

[@papanurgle8393]

To me, this is one of the most tragic arcs in clone wars. If people like Bale and Padmé had been able to gain enough political traction, the war might have found a peaceful end. Hell, if it'd happened a few decades earlier, the war might not have even started...

[@LordCommander-ui2fw]

Agreed. The Republic's failure was the arrogance and ignorance to assume that there was no other way but theirs, no force that could subvert their design or corrupt their system. Palpatine exploited their arrogance and ignorance to further his own design and hide from those who might catch on until it was too late.

[@mrmeeseeks5016]

I find this funny reading this as a comment from freaking Nurgle from 40k discussing politics from another galaxy

[@benjaminbierley2074]

It does drop some pretty sizeable tidbits surrounding the political machinations of Sidious's whole plan, namely making it illegal for representatives of the republic to talk to the CIS so neither side could come to a peaceful resolution or figure out that they're both being duped. I have a theory that Dooku for his part was keeping the CIS Senate in the dark about the kinds of Generals he was stacking the CIS military with. Which was largely cruel, ruthless, underhanded, and at times sociopathic evil sorts of being which was perhaps a very intentional move on his part under the guidance of Sidious in order to make it easier for the Jedi to justify fighting and killing them, they were by design meant to be the perfect "villains" for the republic and Jedi. Sidious probably surmising correctly that the Jedi would be too busy riding their moral high horses to look past the Generals they were fighting and realize the CIS had reasonable people with reasonable arguments.

[@tk-6967]

@@benjaminbierley2074 The generals of the CIS weren't generally bad people, what exactly do you mean? Whorm Loathsom was fairly cordial, even towards Obi Wan Kenobi and the Jedi, who in reality he has full justification to hate, since his species had to fend for themselves against pirates and terrorists while the republic and jedi ignored them, and they formed a military culture and had to work with corporations to have enough funding to stop piracy

[@Tahkaullus01]

The sad truth is, even if they had been born decades earlier, it would already be too late. If you read the Plagueis novel, it quickly becomes clear that the Sith had the pieces in place long before the Clone army was even an idea. All they needed was a match to light the fire. And that match was Naboo, where Plagueis found a young man with a taste for speeder racing. A young man named Palpatine.

[@Prefix1998]

I only realized that the separatists were the name given to them by the republic. They see themselves as a democratic confederacy rather than "separatists"

[@tk-6967]

well they are Separatists, they are separating from the republic, they are seceding *their own land*, not taking over the republic

[@meganoob12]

they are seperatist or rebels. The whole thing is influenced by the american civil war and the CSA was also called rebels or seperatists by the Union.

[@tk-6967]

@@meganoob12 Not really. I mean I see where you are coming from but it isn't the same really. Since the CSA were fighting to keep slaves and their economy and the Union was fighting to have political domination.

[@meganoob12]

@@tk-6967 which is why I said it was inspired by the civil war. and remember, the war in the prequels was also started due to an economic issue i.e. space tax that hurt the outter rim (south) and was imposed by most of the senators of the core worlds. Ofc it isn‘t an exact copy, but it is clearly much inspired

[@tk-6967]

@@meganoob12 It started because the Outer Rim hated the Core Worlds for allowing all the crime and corruption and stuff. They wanted to secede from the core, whereas as the CSA also wanted land.

[@kamishin7135]

It's funny that both the Republic and the CIS were mere puppets and controlled by sith lords. The Republik by Darth Sidious and the CIS by Darth Tyranus. What would have happen if both were really went to war at each other

[@AndreNitroX]

Yes show how great a manipulator sidious was he tricked everybody

[@Deathmare235]

@Sanguine wait the droids were stronger why were they always getting wrecked also how did they have a stronger navy

[@condedooku9750]

@@Deathmare235 Suitable CIS droids (B2, commando droids, droidekas, magnoguards) could easily take down multiple clones, the B1s were cheaper and less effective at this, but still in large numbers they were very dangerous. And the CIS navy was much better because both megacorporations and Outer Rim planets were used to fighting: Pirates, slavers, and gangsters, which is why they were almost always one step ahead of the Republic (except in the final months from the war).

[@Deathmare235]

@@condedooku9750 then why did the Republic always win hell the Republic won the war

[@condedooku9750]

@@Deathmare235 Because Palpatine was sabotaging the CIS from within to make them lose.

[@daniels7907]

The main problem being that both Senates were just there to create the illusion of democracy. Since Palpatine was the secret leader of both sides, and neither Senate really controlled their militaries, the politics were irrelevant. *This* was the big secret that Yoda and Obi-Wan stupidly kept for two decades. Heck, if Mace Windu had at least bothered to tell somebody like Bail Organa before charging off to arrest Palpatine, then everything that subsequently happened to both factions might have been averted.

[@arkhamsquire4503]

I dont understand what you mean by Obiwan and Yoda keeping a secret.

[@daniels7907]

@@arkhamsquire4503 - Even by the time of the OT it seemed like nobody knew that Palpatine had been the secret leader of *both* the Republic *and* the CIS! Nor did they know that the Clone Wars were a giant scam! While the fact that Palpatine and Dooku were Sith Lords gets into ambiguous matters of religion, the fact that they *faked a giant war* in order to advance Palpatine's political career was *HIGH TREASON!*

[@arkhamsquire4503]

@@daniels7907 Oh ok that's what you meant yeah. Youd think they'd atleast tell Bail and he can look for more evidence overtime to expose Palps.

[@daniels7907]

@@arkhamsquire4503 - Exactly. A lot of what went wrong was because the Jedi Masters were not sharing information even with their allies in the Senate.

[@arkhamsquire4503]

@@daniels7907 I'm a huge fan of the deleted scenes from Revenge Of The Sith like the ones related to the delegation of 2000. And it seems strange that there wasn't any cooperation. You had instances where the duchess of mandalore was flirty with a jedi master on the council. The leader of the anti war committee was married to the jedi poster boy. And I won't doubt there was various other relationships between the jedi and senators as they would escort them alot. I wouldn't think it would be much of a stretch to have Grand Master Yoda and war hero Obi Wan Kenobi confront Palpatine in the Senate and tell the senate about the genocide that they have recorded proof of, aswell as the murder of Padme Amidala by the Emperors apprentice. It would probably lead to a second civil war that is alot more devastating but it would've done something.

[@giacomoromano8842]

The senator at 3:02 is literally the chad guy made alien. What he is saying its also pretty damn based too.

[@aitipsea3909]

The Virgin Republic Senator Vs The Chad Separatist Representative

[@grrumakemeangry]

what is his name?

[@crimson1million]

It’s actually one of the dumbest things ever said. The CIS is literally controlled (besides Sith Lords) by corporations like the techno Union and trade federation.

[@assanalialmuratov661]

The fun thing is that corporations kinda ruled CIS lol

[@michaelramon2411]

The line "and unlike the Republic, corporations do not rule us" always amuses me. It shows both the idealism of the political factions of the CIS and their utter blindness to what is really going on.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Yep and they were fools and hypocrites not too mention pawns in Sidious’s game for control of the galaxy.

[@giacomoromano8842]

​@@ricardomarquez7730 not hypocrites, the worse generals and soldiers of the CIS committed numerous atrocities, like Grievous, but this was unknown by the idealistic members of the senate. Only a handful of highly corrupt traders, bankers and general, directly at the behest of Dooku and Sidius, had a idea of what was happening and basically followed their every lead (which lead to their consequently slaughter at Mustafar by Darth Vader).

[@ricardomarquez7730]

@@giacomoromano8842 Even so they let the corporate alliance control them by buying their battle droids and giving them more money and power. At least they paid for that when Sidious had Vader kill the Separatists leaders on Mustafar and arrested or executed the Separatists senators since they themselves are responsible for putting Sidious into power.

[@aitipsea3909]

​@@ricardomarquez7730you mean unlike the Republic who went deeper into debt by buying clones off the Kaminoans and allowed mega corporations to have a seat in the Senate? Get over yourself, of the two factions the CIS had the better Senate and more legitimate state

[@theonlyMoancore]

@@giacomoromano8842 We can't act like the Republic didn't commit war crimes too. The only difference is one plays happy music while executing surrendering enemies. The difference is in their senates and their goals.

[@Gothic7876]

The member worlds of the Separatists had legit grievances with the Republic, and especially the Core Worlds. They felt, and where, ignored by the republic at large. Paid their fees, but when they asked for help they got brushed aside.

[@kylepessell1350]

There were real problems for sure but ultimately the Separatist movement wasn't supposed to solve those problems. They were just a means to an end by Darth Sidious. A political scapegoat to smooth the way for his ambitions.

[@Komixcak]

The dark side of the force won the war. The siths.

[@carlomalijan8001]

Who knew that Padme’s VA, would later become the voice of Lori Loud. :)

[@dr.robotnick1888]

And Ventress's VA would voice Luna

[@carlomalijan8001]

@@dr.robotnick1888 Obi Wan’s VA plays Mr Bolhofner.

[@leoarevalo6786]

I didn't notice this at all

[@splatfan]

Surprised me too seeing these Clone Wars characters voicing two of the Loud sisters and Lincoln’s somewhat crazy, but caring teacher in middle school

[@evanrogers1825]

I don’t think people outside of the voice acting community really realize just how often voice actors are utilized. - Look but James Arnold Taylor or Tara Strong and you’ll be blown away by just how many characters that you know that are voiced by them.

[@speedyflames7106]

4:19 The most underrated thing about this are the corporations. They are not with the sith, yet they are pushing for the war to continue. War is good for business, and maintaining a perpetual war will feed the industrial military complex

[@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089]

Didn’t do them much good when everything was nationalized by Palpatine. Wasn’t much good for the galactic economy either

[@BeraubtWerden]

Ahhh just like USA

[@giacomoromano8842]

@@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 in their pursuit of money and power they were utterly blind to the bigger machinations of their masters. Just pawns moved by desire. Darth Maul putted it the best: "Greed never fails as a motivation".

[@frankieseward8667]

​@@giacomoromano8842and the downfall. Just shows how easy it can be to cripple one side

[@PepperJacked360]

I've always loved the conflict between these two political parties! Almost like a game of chess except you already know what the outcome is towards the very end!

[@AndreNitroX]

The clone wars established their politics so well that it makes you sad that they were both betrayed

[@PepperJacked360]

@@AndreNitroX I guess you could say that both parties were nothing more than pawns in Palpatine's game.

[@AndreNitroX]

@@PepperJacked360 Indeed they were. Also if you look closely the separatists were mostly nonhumans, and palpatine only allowed humans to be apart of his empire.

[@TheKingofbrooklin]

Are any of them aware that even if you ignore Dooku and Sidious that the executive seperatist council consisting of coorperation have much more power than those politicians ?

[@Deathmare235]

@@AndreNitroX it makes it easier for Palpatine since that’s less aliens for him the surprising thing is he isn’t a racist Edit: also Dooku is a racist

[@chivoloks28]

Even in Star Wars the military industrial complex, banks, and corporations are the bad people. Yet here on earth people still defend them.

[@frankieseward8667]

Because for some it's their livlihoods. It usually takes a truly unforgettable disaster to truly vilify them.

[@skylarcrothers8239]

All the Separatist Senators were arrested and killed off after the Clone Wars for not contributing to the Empire except for one that escapes.

[@L.P.1987]

Actually, no. Only the High Separatist Council, wich controlled the military and economy of the CIS.

[@Deathmare235]

@@L.P.1987 weren’t they all killed on Mustafar also this isn’t the first time I’ve heard the senators being arrested and executed

[@L.P.1987]

@@Deathmare235 *High separatist council

[@stealthystudios4129]

@@Deathmare235 Yea i believe the main leaders like wat tambor and gunray were killed on mustafar. Most others sep leaders like the senators were just given a rough time. I don’t think they were killed thought

[@Deathmare235]

@@L.P.1987 and the Separatist council difference is the high one wasn’t replaced

[@bamesjond7495]

I'll be honest, I have for the most part totally ignored the politics of Star Wars in favor of the more flashy and stimulating action. As I grow older I find myself more interested in the actual political conflicts occurring that caused the formation of the CIS and how the entire clone war was just a massive con. The biggest punch in the gut is when you realized that what's occurring in Star Wars is very similar to what occurs in reality just on a more macro scale. The rich get richer, civilians are just trying to live, people want to be left alone and of course, there is always some nebulous unknown force (no pun intended) pulling the strings from the shadows.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

That's capitalism.

[@Jsay18]

@@Mourtzouphlos240 That's such a surface level take, please look deeper.

[@Ragnaroktheend]

@@Jsay18 I'll be more descriptive for you. This is the result of late stage capitalism and the failure of neoliberalism to fundamentally address large scale issues.

[@Jsay18]

@@Ragnaroktheend Deeper, but not enough, keep digging, you are almost there. Who benefits? Who is on all sides?

[@DarthNicky]

@@Jsay18 the Irish

[@EChacon]

I know Senator Singh was not created at the time this Clone Wars episode ("Peace on Both Sides") aired but I Imagine he would be one of the Separatist Senators present during this meeting in favor to end the war, unless he was just in another political position on Raxus before he became Senator following the murder of Mina Bonteri. Who can say?

[@tk-6967]

He was Senator of Raxus, while Bonteri was senator of Onderon, which was a pro separatist planet

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Wasn’t Onderon neutral during the war before season 3 or 5?

[@Tahkaullus01]

I'll be honest, there is one glaring thing that I dislike about Clone Wars: it's Republic-centrism. I get it, the story is being told by the Republic's side but we have to remember there were more than a few worlds that joined the CIS who believed it was the better path. Hell, members of the Rebel Alliance, generals in fact, were once Separatist loyalists. That should say everything about the worlds that broke away I think and the fact that we never saw a young Yan Dodonna (the guy who masterminded the operation that destroyed the Death Star) on the CIS's side is something I will always be sad about.

[@deriksandoval5263]

That's actually fascinating, never knew the CIS joined the rebellion but it literally makes sense.

[@Blub_525]

Don't exactly know this for sure but I believe only a few seperatist that remained joined the rebels but the majority of them didn't. I believe it was because the Rebels where called "The Alliance to Restore the Republic " and alot of seperatist didn't want to rebuild a government that neglected them.

[@transformersrevenge9]

Revenge of the Sith has some nice deleted scenes, where Padme and her supporters start a movement that is basically the early stage of the rebellion. Anakin hears about it, and instantly compares said movement to separatist.

[@aitipsea3909]

​@@transformersrevenge9A bit of that stayed in the final cut, there's an important convo between Anakin and Padme "Have you ever thought we are on the wrong side?' "What do you mean?" "What if the Republic has become the very evil we opposed? And the democracy we fought for no longer exists?" "I don't believe that, and you are sounding like a Separatist"

[@Eeep_Z1]

Imma being honest, i still don’t know how Trade Federation can be part on the Republic Senate when their B1-Battle Droids, Droidikas, C-9979 Landing craft, MTT, ATT, Vulture Droid, Sheathipede, Stap, and Lucrehulk-class are mostly being in Separatist Alliance Army

[@V1nce_man]

@Sanguine Well you remember the trade federation was neutral in the conflict but they could sell their goods to both sides.

[@kungolaf4499]

@Sanguine It is supposed to underline the burlesque and apathetic state of matters in the Republic Senate...

[@Deathmare235]

@@V1nce_man wait they traded with the Republic did they do any military trades

[@V1nce_man]

@@Deathmare235 Possibly, they were still apart of the Galactic senate meaning they didn’t really ‘secede’ like everyone else did. Though they traded with both sides because they were one of the dominant factors in economics at the time.

[@tk-6967]

@@Deathmare235 yes, they control shipping lanes on both sides, trade. If we are talking military stuff then the Techno Union was the 'separatist' corporation that provided literally every piece of equipment the GAR used (excluding lightsabers and a couple other things, I mean all tanks, weapons, ships, the works)

[@backtothefutureman1]

I knew the new episode would be on Raxus.

[@kgkgaming06]

The Separatist Senate pretty based! Dooku as chairman is pretty cool too

[@rennac3152]

Watching the separatist senate actually reach a verdict in the same day a motion was established > whatever the republic senate is trying to do

[@thebestben]

The Separatist worlds were just tired of Republic corruption, but perhaps following the leadership of the Sith was a bad idea. Maybe the Jedi would’ve refused to go to war if it was just a battle between politicians, not Jedi and Sith.

[@Deathmare235]

The Republic was also led by a Sith

[@aaroncabatingan5238]

Count Dooku's status as the leader of the Separatists killed any hope for the jedi staying out of the war.

[@tk-6967]

@@aaroncabatingan5238 everyone knew he lead the separatists, most people didn't know he was a sith

[@forgeinsteel878]

Even if the Sith was not part of the war, the Jedi could've partaken political ideals in any other way.

[@tk-6967]

@@forgeinsteel878 true

[@jonnnyren6245]

2:14 at first I was waiting for someone to scream "ORDAAAAH, ORDAAAAH!!! THE HONORABLE GENTLEMAN FROM THE PLANET RAXUS! YOU ARE A DECENT POLITICIAN BUT ALSO A RELATIVELY NOISY ONE! CALM YOURSELF, TAKE SOME MEDICAMENT, DON'T BE OVEREXCITED, AND DO NOT SPEAK FROM A SEDENTARY POSITION UNLESS CALLED UPON!! ORDAAAHH!!!!"

[@g-forcemapping8454]

Ah yes John Bercow in Star Wars what an interesting visual

[@VanaeCavae]

I actually liked this episode alot. It showed the other side of the galactic conflict.

[@JohnG44]

Yes I love that episode it show on how manipulated they all were

[@BumbleCrumble1072]

We needed more episodes focusing on the CIS.

[@Ruggsy]

If you look closely, you'll realize there is only like 5 species in the Separatist Senate lool

[@stealthystudios4129]

Yeah i noticed that. Too save money i guess 😂

[@CreatureCal]

3:08 I saw that guy at Sea World!

[@joe1999_1]

The separatist parlament looks like the British Parlament 🤔

[@wetzel1628]

There was never a war where it was good guys vs evil bad guys, it’s always more complicated than that, no exceptions

[@Keichwoud357]

I really wish there were more episodes like this.

[@theAverageJoe25]

It’s kind of ironic how bonteri admired Dooku so much and he had her assassinated

[@ricardomarquez7730]

It goes to show you what blind loyalty gets you. Padme was right about Dooku but Mina Bonteri let her ignorance and her naïveté get her killed. At least Lux saw it in time and realized the Separatists were wrong and evil.

[@giacomoromano8842]

​@@ricardomarquez7730 which is doubly ironic, considering how the blind trust of Padme in Palpatine is what get her killed in the end.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

@@giacomoromano8842 Yep and Sidious played Dooku and everyone else so that no one could stand in his way.

[@aitipsea3909]

​@@ricardomarquez7730 WRONG He saw DOOKU was evil, he actually tried to warn the other separatists to no avail He became senator of his homeworld Onderon and ultimately accepted to join the Republic, which doomed his people into Imperial rule

[@ricardomarquez7730]

@@aitipsea3909 Sidious controled both sides so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. And I haven't forgotten I remember that Lux tried to warn his fellow Separatists senators but they didn't believe him hence the blind loyalty.

[@sergioochoa6580]

Just to think that Mina Bonteri used to admire Count Dooku, the same man responsable of her death and alongisde Sidious, the war she totally didn't want.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Yeah and Padme picked up her former mentor's weakness in trusting scum like Dooku. For instance, Padme trusting Palpatine is the same with Mina trusting Dooku. Both paid the price for trusting them.

[@CollinMcLean]

@@ricardomarquez7730 True. But at the same time they were both the biggest obstacles to them. Genuine idealists and altruists who couldn't be bribed or intimidated. It's why even though Padme was partially responsible for Palpatine's rise to chancellor she was also his biggest obstacle in the war.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

@@CollinMcLean Indeed and Padme was the key to controlling Anakin for Sidious. Since he offered a solution to save Padme if Anakin became Sidious’s apprentice.

[@alexanderivascu5261]

I like how the one senator said corporations won't control us, when the cis was founded mainly by corporations (banking clan, corporate alliance, commerce guild, trade federation)

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Goes too show you the hypocrisy of the Separatists senators and their ignorance of their war crimes throughout the galaxy I’m glad the Bad Batch shows us that they have paid for everything they did and too me they are all like that snake Clovis who only cared about money or his own personal gain. He also knew about Dooku’s dealings and deeds but sided with him anyway. As for those who know Dooku well they either knew and didn’t care what he was doing or they were silenced by him to make sure the war went on as planned by his master Sidious.

[@Cyberleader19]

Don't forget the Techno Union, now!

[@katievalenty1901]

Thank you for this! All the clips tied in very well

[@zexonhairi7215]

First the seperatist senate and then the imperial senate got disbanded

[@mannyperez6096]

I guess the emperor and his galactic empire won the clone wars did because you all jedi you didn't see it coming shameful

[@drakedy2145]

Corey Burton is so good at Count Dooku impression of the Late Christopher Lee

[@condeaarondarkusexcubitor3155]

It would have been interesting if the politics of the prequel movies were managed as like in the series. Politics are a complicated issue to tackle, but not impossible to make them interesting.

[@CaptainCretaceous91]

That's exactly what The Clone Wars did.

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

I can see Mina being played by Lena Headey

[@ninjak79]

What a great video! I hope you make more of these interlaced “theme” videos.

[@kwamesmith3214]

What I learned was that I'm quite envious of Lux Bonteri. He got to kiss Ahsoka 🤣😂

[@manuelgrothe608]

Desix’s Governor Kwami Ames was Mina’s partner before the rise of the Empire

[@venta7153]

4:24 BIGGEST MURRICA MOMENT EVER

[@wargeneralbonez]

If only Padme knew of the corruption around The Republic then she would've been less naive.

[@aitipsea3909]

I think is a sad parallel that she criticizes Mina for admiring Dooku, meanwhile she confides in Palpatine on a very similar way and this is what gets her friend killed It was too late when she realized that her devotion to Palpatine was just as misplaced

[@wargeneralbonez]

@@aitipsea3909 Padme is naive. But then again, if she was Chancellor she might have the potential to get rid of corruption.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Corruption was in both the Separatists and Republic many others like king Dendup were right about that.

[@wargeneralbonez]

@@ricardomarquez7730 Then me will join me fanfiction Faction... The United Terran Union

[@christophersanchez7731]

She did voice it at the end of the Clone Wars, and she and Bail Organa, and Mon Mothma gathered like minded Senators that would voice their discontent against Palpatine Bail and Mon Mothma told Padmè how they considered making an organization but Padmè didn’t want to hear it at the time, but would consider it an option for the future Which was the groundwork of the Rebel Alliance Padmè knew if the corruption of the Republic ever since she was 14 when the Republic did nothing as the Trade Federation blockaded and invaded her world She and her people had to repel the Trade Federation by herself Throughout the war, she saw more corruption especially how deficit spending on miltary took priority over the civil good of the people Padmè knew and had much reason to give up on the Republic But she still believed in what the Republic represented, she still wanted to serve the people even as the government failed She doesn’t think the CIS was any better being run by corporations like the Trade Federation that ruined her world to begin with and had murderers like General Grevious continuing war crimes True the Republic as they evolved into the Empire was ultimately no better, but still she saw the decaying Republic as lesser of the two evils and should have the war resolved first And did saw the CIS cause as result of the Republic’s failure and at more than one occasion was willing to open negotiations to have peace with the CIS. To have a cease fire if possible, nothing short of acknowledging their sovereignty and let the galaxy split into two governments Even as the Sith sabotaged attempts at peace By the war’s end, Padmè was ready to address the wrongs of the Republic, especially if Palpatine wouldn’t give up his wartime emergency powers Had she lived, she may very well become a founding member of the Rebellion along with Bail Organa and Mon Mothma

[@BojanglesMcduff]

"The I's have it". "F*ck". -Dooku

[@devastater97]

"Unlike the Republic, Corporations do not rule us." The Separatist Council (the leaders of the Confederate government) be like: 🤣

[@uncletaylorify]

I remember going to see the original three movies as a kid and thinking how the Republic and the Jedi's were this great thing. The next three movies and Clone War show showed me how corrupt and misguided they were. Palpatine just guided them slightly then let them do all the work.

[@kylepessell1350]

Slightly? Palpatine literally controlled both the military and political structure of both sides of a galaxy-wide conflict from the shadows. The Jedi were one of the only organizations that he didn't have direct control over and so he used pre-existing socio-economic problems as a cover.

[@meganoob12]

which is total bs and kinds destroyed the original trilogy… Eveyone who understands Star Wars knows it… people are dumbed down by modern movies and take shit too literal these days

[@borakaraca9788]

Jedi order are great thing unlike corrupt republic there are just a few good senators like bail organa padme amidala etc

[@darksideorseid6300]

Doesn't Mina know about Dooku having Amidala kidnapped on Geonosis?

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Apparently not perhaps Dooku must have covered his crimes well enough or something else.

[@JohnG44]

Well they technically were not in republic it was a separatist war and the jedi attacked first so to the galaxy it seem like it was the Republic that attacked them.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Padme, Anakin and, Obi-Wan were gonna be executed illegally because of what they discovered which was an army of battle droids that were outlawed by the Republic senate along their treason and conspiracy along with attempted murder of senator Padme Amidala of Naboo. Besides the most of the galaxy knew it was the Separatists that started the war while others were told differently about how it happened. Which was exactly what Sidious wanted from the beginning and his apprentice Count Dooku followed his master’s orders to the letter.

[@gmanawesome5773]

THIS IS WHY I LOVE THE THE CLONE WARS

[@navilluscire2567]

I think people often forget that Darth Sidious didn't create the separatist movement, he's not behind literally everything that's giving him and even the sith as a whole way too much credit. The frustration and political will was already there and growing for many decades if not centuries in the making, the only thing Sidious did was escalate things, taking advantage of the growing unrest, a problem that not even the Jedi could fix.

[@ricardomarquez7730]

Didn’t Dooku say the Sith control everything back then and during the clone war?

[@MrHalohunter24]

“Unlike the Republic, corporations do not rule us.” *Entire executive council is comprised of corporate executives*

[@goosnavslakovic4908]

"Guys we cant keep this war going. People are dying and we dont have the goddamn money to keep this up." "Ah wait but if you pass this very convenient bill, it will give you so much money it would be like youre printing it" Guys filoni tried to warn us

[@Myguelsaurus]

A lot of people I know should watch this and understand a different political side doesn't make others your enemy. In fact we should be more afraid of our closest "allies" whose intentions are different

[@meganoob12]

yeah in a peaceful democracy sure, different views don‘t make someone your enemy… but these people are literally fighting a death war. No place for talking here

[@forgeinsteel878]

You know what notice between scenes of both the Separatist and the Republic, the Senate meeting rooms of the Separatist and the Republic showed the light side and dark side of the politics of both sides, the light side(The Separatist) and the dark side (The Republic)

[@ricardomarquez7730]

It still shows the same amount of corruption and honesty for both the Republic and Separatist senates whole some discussions for peace or for the sake of their people strive there are still those who try to keep the war going in both the Republic and Separatists. The Separatists even bought more battle droids according to the banking clan senator which most likely had some days indication that the Separatists senators have scum like Clovis, Lot Dod and, others like them in their ranks. No senate is perfect Republic or Separatist not that it mattered since Sidious controlled both sides.

[@johnmartin4119]

A great cautionary tale how wars can often be manipulated so that the only ones who win are those who only seek blood and destruction. And can turn those with good intentions against one another

[@axelnilsson5124]

I kind of wish we got to see more of the Separatist senate

[@gravbloss81]

the clone wars is not a childs series, it start out as it, but it shaped up more and more like a starwars movie

[@tariqmohammed8542]

Padme was Ashoka's mom and you cant tell me otherwise - i love the last line that Ashoka said

[@wizard680]

3:02 why do I like this man

[@danielsawaked685]

Stuff like this is why I prefer the prequel era over the first and 3rd, this era was so much more than fighting and Jedi

[@TheArcher101]

We should have seen them more

[@warlordmacilvernock1979]

"Unlike the Republic, corporations do not rule us." Except for the Neimodian Trade Federation, the Techno Union, the Banking Clan, the Retail Caucus and the Corporate Alliance.

[@redneckmayo8655]

This is the closest to Ahsoka meeting Dooku we’ll ever get

[@villehyyrylainen7009]

what’s up with the mix of scenes from aotc,rogue one and rebels?

[@Unavailable_Username.]

Way too many cuts. It’s like a child discovering iMovie for the first time

[@maxthecharacter1296]

The Clone Wars was my proper introduction to Star Wars when I was a kid. As such, I had very, very limited knowledge of Star Wars overall, and didn't even connect the dots. As such, I was really invested in this arc, believing that Padme and her friend will win. Little did I know their fate was already sealed.

[@zaandarbrow]

3:41 he put his whole NAYYYEEE into that one

[@alpha5664]

I think I know why Anakin and Padme's relationship is so strained. Not only did Anakin being enslaved as a child and losing his mother right in front of him put him in a bad position but also, Anakin and Padme's situation in the war could put any relationship under a lot of pressure. Especially a relationship like theirs due to having to keep it a secret on top of everything.

[@witherwolf3316]

The thing I find really funny about the concept of peace negotiations between the Separatists and the Republic is that the Republic would demand reparations for war crimes committed by the droid army, and the Separatist senators would have no clue they ever happened and think the Republic was making it up. They'd be wrong, of course, but that's just how dissonant they were to the reality of what their droid army was doing.

[@thevroom1643]

The term olive branch raises alot of questions

[@takakocaesar579]

"Mom, can we have the senate" "We already have the senate at home" The senate at home:

[@yatmanto6952]

this pissed off palpi more than the jedi order ever could have

[@zhuangsaur227]

If only Mina Bonteri and even Count Dooku joined the Rebellion....

[@Veyron722skyhook]

So did Padme just somehow forget that it was the Trade Federation that invaded her homeworld, and it was the Separatists themselves who started the war when they tried to kill her and yet somehow she still wants peace? I don't get her logic sometimes

[@comradekolbot2220]

Disappointment is all I feel. Imagine if Palpatine died with Damask with the assassins that made Damask need a respirator. Dooku becoming The Separatist Leader and ACTUALLY trying to do the right thing.

[@rishiphadnis1]

Didnt Palpatine himself order that?

[@comradekolbot2220]

@@rishiphadnis1 I can’t recall. I thought Sidious was angry that Demask for being so complacent to feel like he couldn’t be touched.

[@Chaotic_Jackal]

Then the whole of the clone wars doesn't even happen as the various worlds that made up the CIS only hated each other slightly less then they hated the Republic.

[@jasonbailey2783]

Ummm what’s the bits with obi?? I haven’t seen those before

[@long_chin_man]

republic: has no general grievous seperatists: has their own general grievous pretty easy choice here

[@aitipsea3909]

the Republic had General Skywalker who committed twice as many war crimes as Grievous, that has to count for something lol

[@ricardomarquez7730]

No General Grievous still has the record for committing the highest number of war crimes during the clone wars. Anakin did not commit as much as General Grievous only after he became Darth Vader when the war ended.

[@HufflepuffBaseball42313]

I think we should all take a lesson from this episode

[@Glorfindelfan1234]

wish they showed more of the separatist parliament

[@humdunkin328]

The green benches lol, separatist parliament looks like the British House of commons

[@mrwhammer]

So thats what happened to the separatist senate, they became with the empires lo

[@aitipsea3909]

No actually, the surviving Separatists joined the Rebel Alliance It was the Republic Senate that became the Imperial Senate

[@issavirgo4838]

Everyone can see the game in starwars but cant see it in America or the uk

[@randomguy5093]

RIGHT?! Thank god someone else pointed this out this is happening right before our eyes people just turn a blind eye to the truth to appease their delusions denial is a deadly weapon!

[@gregorysaugustine5236]

It's not that everyone can't see it. It's just they are powerless to change it. Whether through vote or force of arms.

[@edwardchong7212]

*Trade Offer* Dooku: What I receive: Freedom from the Republic. What you receive: My head.

[@donkeykong4983]

R.I.P. 777

[@BlueAversion]

I always thought the Separatist Senate should have been expanded on, as when you think about it it wasn't as influential as it thought it was (though i suppose they already do that with the Republic Senate). Dooku secretly goes out of his way to sabotage the truce proposal and then all the prime example of Separatist crimes are concealed from them. Also in RotS you have the Separatist Council that seems to be separate from the Separatist Senate. Did the Senate get shut down and replace or mostly eliminated?

[@Commander_Thorn.]

Was killed in action when Dooku surprise attacked us on Scipio. I fought till the very end. 😔

[@christinejorgens6577]

At least you didn’t get to being forced to kill your Jedi friends…

[@bredboye2334]

omfg we are switching back and forth 10 different scenes in a minute can you just fucking pick one

[@Stinger913]

One of the most fire lines in the separatist parliament episode is after the Corporate Authority says they’ll never allow peace talks another separatist MP immediately fires back saying “Unlike the Republic, we are not captive to corporate interests” and are a true democracy or at least more democratic than the Republic 😂

[@luwucian4497]

send the AT-TEs

[@rockmanx00777]

Remonds me of the house of commons.

[@MrElmo54321]

I really like to note this arc as being the one to save Ashoka from becoming like Anakin. Ashoka was always very much like Anakin, especially holding the same beliefs, however seeing the duality of both sides Ashoka no longer subscribes to the black/white philosophy that Anakin held and would drive him to extremes for the republic and eventually the empire.

[@smashhimmungo5798]

RICK LONG CANBERRA NERDS INC ! SAYS STAR WARS RULES !!

[@georgebrady5369]

looks like the British parliament lol

[@meganoob12]

ok… why is the british house of commons design in star wars? I‘m serious! The seperatist parliament as almost an exact copy of the UK parliament

[@gamalielmarquez9088]

If only they knew the real puppeteer in this war........

[@smashgold9429]

the clone wars was never about politics, it was about revenge, the revenge of the sith.

[@nostradamusofgames5508]

You'll never see this kinda stuff in Disney's so called "Star Wars"

[@romualdcaffeserre6230]

the clone wars series is made by disney dude

[@philippmaurer5722]

@@romualdcaffeserre6230 no

[@philippmaurer5722]

@@romualdcaffeserre6230 thy made rebels

[@wyattmcgee1]

Have you not read any of the books or comics?

[@emigdiochapa707]

Funniest part is that they were all pons

[@jeromeantony5930]

Full support