Serious Problems with FARMMAC F372 Neo Tec

[@j.c.lawntreesnow6272]

My g 372 had a problem like that check to see if the throttle cable is pulling the carb wide open at full squirt peace

[@jacobjohnson1382]

Seen a video and they checked the gasket behind the carb, next to the jug and it needed a section of the gasket cut out ....... Wasn't cut out from factory for some reason.

[@roostercoggburn7436]

Thank you for the honest review/update!

[@jonanderson4755]

This seems to be a common issue with this particular saw. Hopefully they will get these issues worked out.

[@andyharker5431]

On the early farmer tec 372 the throttle link was to long and would do the same thing. Oem throttle link fixed it.

[@DaveyBlue32]

At least since you ran it you can pop off the cylinder and see what they are working with… compare their piston and cylinder finish quality and that kinda stuff… toss the wheel on it and see where they are taking them before they ship them out… I’d love to see how much better they look on the inside then a Farmertec version??? I’m super curious to see that!’n

[@anton_mishchenko]

I have hollzforma 372, and i was fighting with carb tune on it almost since the beginning - I did not have issues at break-in time, but i did not fire it too much, and when I started to load it more, issues began. And after i replaced carb with walbro - I did not tune carb since that.

[@nickywalsh8492]

Got to do a follow up video soon, plug colour will confirm rich condition, you'll have to clock the timing numbers for curiosity. Carb swap would be useful 1st step i think, hardly restricted cap on jet screw ?

[@bumpkinrocks]

The Hutzl/Farmertec 372's seem to have some excellent reviews and large following now. May get myself 1 of their 395's before to long. That saw seems to have major quality issues and it's ment to be their "pro" saw🤣 They can't even make a decent strong side cover! On the other hand the Farmertec 1's are excellent.

[@daveseaver6337]

Think some people get good ones and some get ones put together on a Friday or mon. Got a holzfarma couple months ago. I also have the real thing after minor carb. adjustment I see no difference. Couldn't be happier. the off switch doesn't always work but whatever. Have had them all over the years 3rd gen arborist. Best saw I ever bought for the price.

[@jokris89]

Thanks for sharing. So holzfforma there is if i decide to buy a clone to have for fun.

[@kenkauffman2529]

I purchased Neotecs 892 (660 clone) never seen wood. Started day one fine, next day kept flooding out without starting. I sent it back for a refund. I have a clone from Hutzl 5th tank and no issues straight out of the box.

[@novicelumberjack]

Hey man, did you get your decals yet?

[@kenkauffman2529]

@@novicelumberjack Snail mail, gotta love it. Tuesday is my guess..

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

Farmertec for the win 🤙🏻🪓😎

[@jamestroutman953]

I purchased one of these saws and haven't had issues with it as of yet, in comparison to what I typically run which is the old school McCulloch chainsaws it does really well, however I run full chisel skip and square grind my chain. I do wonder though if there's a QC problem or a design flaw every now and then with the saws.

[@murph2521]

I have a hutzl farmertech 372 and it had the same issue. I slammed my head against the wall for a few weeks trying to figure it out after carb swaps and coils etc. Fuel tanks and vents I bought a zama carb that someone on a forum suggested and it finally runs a lot better. Still not completely correct but runs way faster and is usable.

[@LJ3Mr]

What Zama or other carburetor fits this 372?

[@kendrickdonnelly]

Mine had a bad spark plug. NGK branded and tested ok w meter.. I think coil and/or carb issues. But timing probs for sure

[@oldcodger1929]

Have your tached the Wemar. The add says it only turns 8500 but it seems to cut way better.

[@cajun3197]

I wonder if the flywheel is a little off on timing. Or the coil is firing off a bit. I’m sure you will figure it out.

[@Jason-dx3zh]

Good honest review. I hope they send you a 395 when there ready to review.

[@kowski9477]

Check the bottom end housing on the inside under gasket when you take the cylinder off . The molding cast is way off and it is not formed where the piston hits at very bottom . It'll work but it's wrong. I've got to finish a job and am depending on this saw ...,.no B.S. and when finished will tear apart and correct it . If it breaks , I will be contacting people. But no worries , I'll fix their lack of efforts .

[@southofheaven-gardening]

Which saw is in 13:27 ? Very powerful

[@rayroberts7915]

I would rather buy an old saw than a new copy saw, my personal choice. Very interesting video

[@XC2long4u]

Yeah sure. Do you have a link where I can buy one for as cheap as the Chinese knock offs?

[@nicholasblohowiak29]

Here is an off the wall question. What brand name tires do you have on your UTV?

[@justincredible7168]

If you look at the pictures of the saw for sale, the pics do advertise Walbro Carburetor and they actually show a pic of the carb with the Walbro name on it. I'm guessing you got a bad carb. I want to see what this saw will do once you get it running right.

[@0808dsmith]

Good review! Are you planning on opening it up and checking the numbers? I still want one!

[@ghettotech9617]

i always change carb on these saws 266 one should fit

[@dentondunn4346]

I have a question for you, can you recommend a tach to use on my Echo Timberwolf? There's many cheap ones online but do they work good?

[@AATreeService]

Sawsuppliers, echo tach. That’s the one He is using

[@DaveyBlue32]

Denton I buy some $9 dollar ones on eBay that are actually within a couple hundred rpm’s of my $100 dollar ….321148216742 that’s the eBay item number… pm me if that doesn’t get you to it and I’ll send you a screenshot of the cheap ones I send out with all my saw build’s… I’ve found that the cheapO’s are within 400 rpm’s or so … that’s just something that you stay conscious of… although my ported saw’s will spin 14,500 of 14,800 I don’t tune them that high… you want to be tuning in the cut.. when you twist your wrist and you are pushing your saw into the log it should stop 4-stroking and just sing through… I’m around 11,800 12,200 I don’t let my saw’s free rev up into the outer stratosphere because a throttle monkey can get ahold of it and walk around pinning the throttle and spinning it up 14,800 no load… it’s like those guy’s who squeeze the trigger and floor the saw holding it above the log like they are in a competition somewhere!!! Those hot saw’s get torn down after every event..,sometimes at the event! They have short lifespan’s!!! You can 3/4 throttle a saw into the wood and when you get a good bite and are tossing chips crack her open! The cutting chain speed of most saw’s is 10,000 to 11,000 rpm’s so super high reving no load speeds don’t do anything but help kill the engine… having your little tachometer on your air filter cover or Velcro-ed on your top cover let’s you see and helps you tune your ear for when you are just at the happy point where your engine is four stroking until you put some load on it then it stops four stroking and “sings” right through your cut! That’s where you want to be with your tune.., I was fixing 4-5 saw’s a month for a tree removal company buddy of mine… I have all of their stuff setup like mine now 11,800 to 12,200… the 036 is set at 11,800 not 13,500 and no one has said a single word about anything cutting slower! Because it’s not… chain speed in the cut is like 10-11k or most saw’s!!!

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

The HLIC carbs on the Farmertec 372 are notorious for this issue. Some folks believe that the Nimtek on Amazon is a good replacement but I've not had good luck with those. However if you put a walbro on it, she'll spool 13k no problem. I don't have any good experience with Neotec but for a handful of 660's that I was asked to build and they had some issues. However I'm told they are FAR more responsive to quality input than Farmertec.

[@mattfleming86]

Has anyone done a deep dive on these carbs to figure out WHY they don't work? I mean you have a metal block with a bunch of holes.. is it check valves not sealing well or or seats not seating or cheap diaphragms?

[@IowaPerformanceSaws]

@@mattfleming86 if I had to guess, the metering needle or the passages themselves are incorrect

[@jonathanhoekstra6174]

Try advancing the timing one whole key width. Just did mine, much more power.

[@charlespeacock8360]

Motor City Madman reference....nice.

[@scottvincent7666]

Throttle opening all the way?

[@eurokid83]

This is just one reason I don’t do clone saws. Bottom line is you get what you pay for. Yes you can fix any issues, but is it worth it when you need a couple hundred dollars in parts to make it run right and be reliable? You can find a used 372 in good condition for what a lot of the clones cost.

[@novicelumberjack]

I'll get this one sorted out. It'll run strong when I'm done with it. But yeah, I'd definitely prefer just to get a used Husky.

[@donnyhudgins1917]

Sounds like it's starved for fuel on bottom and top. Maybe open the low jet, turn the idle up with idle screw, and open the high jet back up a little?

[@novicelumberjack]

Exactly the opposite. It has too much fuel on the high side. I have the hi jet fully seated and it is still too rich.

[@kowski9477]

I bought a Neo-Teo and it's got a Walbro. My cylinder is a "Rhinomac" not a "Rhinomec" ! In this case , E comes before A! ALITTLE bit of what I call , slickwilly with the wording. Round eye caught it .

[@jermainegant2913]

Let us know what the problem is. Can the company fix it or is it to much to be fixed

[@adambatchelder4121]

I'll bet its the carb , ive put 2 aftermarket carbs on my stihls and than replaced them with oem because they where junk.

[@austindenotter19]

Very very common

[@manningceballos1045]

Hey man it seems the low jet is way to ritch. You should ree tune starting at 1 1/4 turns out on low and hi...

[@manningceballos1045]

Should atleast give neotec the credit and ree tune to make sure it's not your own fault it's not getting the rpms just saying

[@novicelumberjack]

Stop skipping around and actually WATCH the video. Jeeze. I talk alllllll about the problem I am having with the carburetor. The high jet is turned alllll the way in and fully seated.

[@manningceballos1045]

Ok where's the low at? Almost 3 turns out?

[@kowski9477]

The float needle in the carb my be to high .... Easy fix

[@nickywalsh8492]

Definitely a good suggestion

[@dougtaylor7724]

It’s new, so look for an assembly error. Compression, timing and carb assembled correctly. I had a new G288xp quit after idling for 2 minutes. A nicked spot in a wire caused the wire to short. Ten minutes later all is well. The new saw has a problem so barking at it with continued running ain’t gonna fix it.

[@richnorman5017]

It’s not the carb, or coil or tank vent…..it’s waaaay deeper than that. I’ve fixed two like this one. FarmMac has some issues..

[@ArkansasBigFootBeats]

A ferrari on Mud tires aint gonna run like a Ferrari...Most people don't learn how to file and underestimate not having rakers right, Consumer crap low kickback chains, hand filing semi chisel with a square grind and a full chisel with a round file. The engine is like the QuarterBack that everyone blames when something doesn't go right.

[@novicelumberjack]

Clearly, you have not watched all my other videos on this saw. It isn't just the chain. There was lots wrong with it, and it is downright silly to suggest that I thought the saw was bad because of a dull chain. Jesus. What do you think I am, a toddler? The timing was so far off, I had to remove 60% of the key advancing it. chain.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpbChJqEl6eohpIsi=1ukliwGLF_oRZAJt

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

Wild thang smoked it🤙🏻😎

[@novicelumberjack]

I love you for this! No one has mentioned anything about it getting beat until you! They must not have watched past the first couple minutes. I was so proud of the little Wild Thang!

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

@@novicelumberjack 🤣🤣...the farmmac has serious issues...be interesting to find out what the problem is...the carburetor on their "pro saw" is the same carburetor on the standard issue holzfforma/farmertec...I have had some issues with those...seems like there is more problems than that... neo-tec better get their shit together 🤙🏻🪓😎

[@garrytalley8009]

I do believe that they have an XP model that does have a few upgrades like air filter, carb and spark plug. So I don't think that this review is spot on with the carb issue. I think the XP model has it and it most certainly would be a better running saw. Check it out a bit closer. I was considering this saw but now that Huskavarna has decided to go green I am not purchasing anything Huskavarna because of parts issues.

[@kowski9477]

Make yourself a quick mount for your tach

[@metalandwood4u]

I have unlocked the key to the chinese chainsaw industry, i mean really and seriously. I also can provide the highest quality professional grade saws available anywhere on that side of the world. That being said, check me out of coarse, but as far as your comment about chinese companies wanting to know about their products, they actually dont have anyone testing their products like we do here. And their people that build these saws have no concept of what the machine does. Ive improved one factories line of one model and im developing two other model variations, customization for functionality. You can kind of see what im talking about from the videos, on my channel, have an 070 with a cylinder the size of an 880, more torque less speed. The 372s im getting have been used daily, professionally for a few years now. Im really happy with them. I finally made contact with NeoTec today, been trying for a few years to reach them. I may test some of their saws, and i already knew what you discovered in the carb advertising. Thats where folks make mistakes, truth in advertising. Have a look at my channel, no fancy editing, but lots of content of the good and the bad.

[@Houseworksaws]

Dude I sat here laughing my a$$ off when you pulled the wildthing out and it beat the 372… Idk it just hit me the right way. Idc who you are that was funny 😆.

[@AATreeService]

Was funny. Still cringe when he warms up his saws at 13,000 rpm tho

[@DPPower-cb2ow]

My holzfforma g372xp I had to put a walbro carburetor and a husqvarna ignition. Now she will get 12500 I could get more but I don't dare.

[@playingwivwood]

You throw a pipe on on them they can reach 15 16 not in wood of course thats like 13 14

[@alexstromberg7696]

Why not just buy a 372 of you have to change all that

[@playingwivwood]

@@alexstromberg7696 cause theres like a 800 dollar difference

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@playingwivwood not for a used one

[@elpolaco7654]

@@alexstromberg7696 Maybe because MSRP of 372XP (X-Torq) is $1129.99?

[@philjones7932]

Put a walbro on and re try 🧐🤔

[@TheF1shh]

Why didn't you read the plug and check the squish? I'm sure you will, but now you just left us hangin!

[@BarnyardEngineering]

What's with these companies and 72cc-up saws? I already have a Jonsered 2166 but could use something hot in the 45-50cc range that's a few pounds lighter for cutting the smaller stuff. Doesn't seem to be much out there in the clone world in that size range. Not impressed by Farmertec's offerings.

[@ladislavgazdik7595]

There is Holzfforma G260 in this range. Clone of a professional saw.

[@novicelumberjack]

Watch my videos of the Wemars 6220. It is a 50cc saw that has been punched up to 60cc. I've really been enjoying it and would recommend it. The Holzfforma G260 looks promising too, but I have no experience with it.

[@DaveyBlue32]

Johncutter 5800 zenoah clone husky bar mount an 18” .325 on a 58cc saw will blast though your chucks.,, and they are like $150-$160… hls for a cheap Raismen bar and chain combo for like $35 bucks… I freakin love them with 18 .325… you can definitely spin the 3/8 18”… I prefer the thinker kurf limbing??? You will be freaking amazed when your $160 dollar piece of shit saw on 40:1 is cutting like a freaking deamom like year 5??? Ain’t done shit but 40:1 and blow it off at the end of the day! blow it off the airfilter bole off…

[@justinsnyder6256]

That's what you get for cheap. Gotta put the good parts on and do the real saw building yourself. It's like a model. You gotta glue it together yourself lol

[@jeffreyhagelin5927]

Check for possible air leaks..

[@mattfleming86]

I love seeing a Sugi on a Wild Thing. 😆

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Thanks

[@Apalm12]

The actual hultzforma brand saws run good and have good reliability I’ve seen some out cut the real saws that’s they cloned

[@JeffMOA]

On Neotecs site they technically don’t say “Walbro” they allude to it having a “Walbro” by saying “Walb Carburetor” and “Walbr Carburetors”. Just like holzforma and farmertec some things you just replace with oem and call it good.

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Can you send me a message I’d like you to take a look at the diaphragm. .!!! I believe the nipple on the diaphragm could be to long.

[@TheF1shh]

oh god, first clip sounds like there's baseball cards in it's spokes.

[@sawnut3814]

That’s a carb issue put a new one on if you’re able to do that something tells me you can’t

[@novicelumberjack]

Haha! What exactly is telling you that I cannot put a new carb on?

[@coreycorp7048]

Get rid of the chinese carb and it will fix the problem, most all the Farmertec 372’s i built had the same issues, and the Nimtek carb does not seam to work much better if at all.

[@thehonestwoodcutterbradywe8011]

More like nimrod Carb coz that thing is stoooopid! Lol

[@troybeans34]

That expression of all show no go applied to f372 it should have slaughter the wild thing

[@austindenotter19]

Throw a different carb on there see how she acts and yes Shindaiwa and Echo are the same company

[@stevenlaxton3618]

It would be cool to see a China clone shootout. Get another farm-mac a holzfforma and either a topteng or a proyama and run them all box stock and see what happens. No mods just do what you can with what came in the box to make it run as good as possible then maybe have friends over for a cut fest lol use the snot out of them and see what dies

[@DaveyBlue32]

You gotta tear that cylinder off and see what you are working with brother… gotta look at those ports finishing and the piston’s…. You might have a bugger in the transfer ports…. ??? It’s probably got a limited coil??? Rip the black coil off the Farmertec or regular 372 coil and see if it just up to 13k???? Might have a long blowdown 25-30--17 makes high rpm’s!!! Make darn sure that they are getting the little O-rings that go under the oil pump gear… Farmertec forgot that part for 5 years and people bitched about a sihty carburetor and they all had a small air leak around their oil pump because they forgot a little $4 dollar O-ring that’s still critical to good operations!!!!

[@crazyfeller5704]

👍

[@fearghalmorrissey2601]

not a good start with that saw..i reckon the wemars saw was better

[@Veau88]

Get an older echo cst 610 evl twin cylinder and soup that up hot rod!

[@alexstromberg7696]

Its only around 60cc

[@maseratirijder]

I do understand People want chinese stuff. But do understand one thing OEM does all the work and somebody else steals the work. If we keep doing this we will drive quality companies in the ground. And we wil force them to get their factories in cheap places.

[@guywihn1658]

That thing's a piece of crap and they are well aware of it. I'm not going into everything wrong with mine but just know I can't use it because the fuel filler hole is defective (not made properly) and leaks fuel like a sieve. They agree the filler hole is defective but they won't take it back. They'll only send me another tank. F___ that!!!

[@jawdouan4509]

I rather go buy craftman chainsaw from Lowe so if anything when wrong first day you bought it they Atlease let you get refund or exchange and happy buy there products

[@thetwostrokerebuilder]

Runs like a 1960 saw 😂😂 put a oem carb on see what happens

[@mtnviewtow88]

this saw just dont make the cutt..lol

[@alexstromberg7696]

As a enthusiast i would only want the real thing. These clones are just aids

[@thehonestwoodcutterbradywe8011]

Yep not impressed at all.if that's a carb issue its a serious.one

[@axmanmichaellacountmichiga8606]

You don't know how to tune a saw is all 😂