Serious shop talk! Legit Street Cars invades the CAR WIZARD's shop. Citroën blows Alex away!

What happens when two KZbin mechanics talk shop? You've got to see what Alex from Legit Street Cars thinks of several of the cars in the CAR WIZARD's 🧙‍♂️ shop. See what they have to say about a 2006 S65 AMG, 1996 S600, 1998 XK8 and the 1969 Citroën.
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[@LegitStreetCars]

Thanks for having me at the shop. I'm still waking up in the middle of night from horrible ABC nightmares!

[@elliott76]

Nightmares bad.

[@brandonlehman7440]

The Wizard making a KZbin channel was the best idea ever. I watch him more than Hoovie these days honestly.

[@welshrarebit9238]

What’s your point or reason

[@mohnnadmercedes8246]

@@welshrarebit9238 I think he means that car wizard has much more informative content than entertainment content

[@yoregano]

Hoovie seems to have cut back on videos the last year or so and the Wizard puts out twice as many so, yeah, I suppose you do watch more of his than Hoovie's.

[@haroldneely9253]

I find myself skipping hoovie vidios anymore, but I never miss Car Wizard

[@elguatero]

Me too !

[@ronaldspins]

Alex is a KZbin legend .one of my favorite channels

[@daakrolb]

I agree. He is cool. And into a cool topic (Mercedes & keeping them running.) all these people have associations with hoofy, & I can’t stand that.

[@MotownModels]

I met him at a car show once, and yeah, super cool dude

[@joshuagibson2520]

I respect the hell out of Alex. Truly started with nothing. The dream is possible if you're willing to work. Really hard.

[@arvinghasemi4150]

Alex has taught me a lot. If you ever read this Alex thank you

[@mariocooldude9092]

He's a good dude

[@johnvender]

Love Alex's reaction to kick starting the Citroen and watching the suspension go up and down.

[@MikasGarage]

Wizard´s suttle impression to Alex´s reaction is allso pricless. That is exactly what i had when i got to show Citroens party tricks to someone, who never seen anything that wild. :)

[@Tigrisshark]

Yeah, can't wait for Wizard to fix up the DS and get to enjoy the car and showing the fantastic features of it. Hopefully Alex (and Tyler) get to ride in it then.

[@stevemonkey6666]

I have a feeling his biggest reaction was when he saw how easy the heater core was to service....

[@johnvender]

Yeah that was classic too. I think this might have been the smartest cat purchase Car Wizard has made. He got it cheap, found a Citroen guru who can get him parts and help him fix it and in great condition they are are worth a lot more than it cost him and investment in making it perfect. Average asking price seems to be around $50k. And it can't be bad in getting him channel views :)

[@LiLDiddee]

Do you think placing the toilet bowl in front of the Citroen was intentional or just a happy coincidence?

[@brucelovell1346]

Regarding Mercedes ABC problems - I bought my SL600 fully aware of potential ABC issues. I did a fluid flush/filter change when I bought it, but decided I wouldn't put another dime into that system if - make that when - it failed. I made it two years. Pump sprang a big leak. So I converted it to coilovers and added sway bars, very happy with the result. Sure, there's nothing like the ride of a properly working ABC system, but it's really nice to go out for a long drive and not even think about a suspension failure. The ride with coilovers is just what you'd expect from a sporty GT with a conventional suspension.

[@shiftfocus1]

I love the reactions of people who’ve never been exposed to Citroens before. So completely unconventional, utterly brilliant, and able to surprise knowledgeable car guys - and it’s 54 years old!

[@Firebird400]

I heard of them before but never actually seen one aside from this video and yes they are very odd to me . Interesting car all the same

[@hichamsolhi]

My late father had a Citroen DS Super 5 in the beginning of the 70's in Morocco.

[@kentdavies1988]

I can't believe my two favorite KZbin shops are collaborating.

[@claytonbyrd6134]

You have to... you're looking right at it...

[@daviddobeson7509]

Hello from down under in Australia. I have watched the Wizard over the last few years working on American iron and expensive European cars that we rarely see down here. Today's episode is strange in that I have a 1965 Mini Coopers S with "hydrolastic" fluid suspension; like the Citroen and Merc, but without the power pumps. The front fluid "bags" are connected with pipes to the same side back "bag". This allows a "softness" when the front or rear wheel goes over a bump but no sideways lean at all, no matter what speed the corner is taken. This is why they were so successful in rally racing in the 60's. The bags, like in the Merc, were only made for a few years and are now so rare that people fit the "standard" Mini rubber or coil springs when the inevitable leaks occur. Dave D.

[@chiplacey256]

The Euro spec Citroens had headlights that turned with the steering. The US spec ones lacked that feature, but could be easily converted with parts from Citroen.

[@trespire]

Agreed, the conversion should be relativly easy. A bit of the pannel work supporting the light cluster would need replacing, but other than that, the DS is already configured to accept all the brackets and leavers to link up the head lights. There is another seperate system that pivots the 2 outer lamps up and down, connected with linkeges to both axle hights. If the car dives, headlamps stay parallel to the road. Simple but effective system.

[@simes888]

Except this is an ID19, not a DS.

[@theclearsounds3911]

@@trespire There are a LOT of parts that need to be replaced (the whole headlamp assembly), and a LOT of parts that need to be bought to do the conversion. It's a lot of work, but definitely possible, if you REALLY want turning and leveling headlights. simes888, you can do it on an ID19; it's really the same car as a DS, just without all the fancy trim and luxury goodies.

[@trespire]

@@simes888 It's clearly a DS. ID's don't have the hydropneomatic suspention.

[@simes888]

@@trespire If you watch Hoovie’s channel where he bought this car, there is a clue there: “Buying this weird 1969 Citroen ID 19 was a total disaster. I am so DUMB!”

[@danielhurley7018]

Its very easy to add a sway bar to the coil spring kits. All you have to do is order the sway bar, sway bar links, and lower control arms from a W220 that had coil springs or airmatic from the factory. Works for W220 and W/C215 cars where ABC has been deleted.

[@Flies2FLL]

I was going to say.....Didn't the non ABC cars come with sway bars?

[@gannicus1026]

The standard S500 & S430 came with "Airmatic" suspension that has sway bars, you are spot on regarding the front, but the rear is where the pain is as you have to drop the subframe to fish in the sway bar. however; it's still not gonna ride as the ABC does cause the replacement coilovers on the market are poor quality and ride horribly regardless the funky ride height. I'm glad that my ABC worked flawlessly until I sold the car ;).

[@realestateeric]

The expensive part about adding swaybars is not the parts, but the labor as it requires dropping the front and rear subframes. Someone needs to invent a swaybar kit that doesn't require dropping the subframe. Perhaps a swaybar that unbolts into various sections?

[@danielhurley7018]

@@realestateeric The rear does have to be dropped but the front does not. Everything is accessible with it in place.

[@realestateeric]

@@danielhurley7018 What about the R230 SL55? That requires a front subframe drop though right?

[@CS-oe8og]

What an awesome episode guys! Both of you are extremely talented technicians, it’s great to see y’all do another episode! Thank you!

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

Should cost $80 to fix, costs $1500. German engineering at its finest!

[@sewshiestrip]

ABC cars are strictly DIY, and even then you'll spend a ton to keep them on the road. I think their prices reflect that though, and if you can get an AMG ABC for around 10 grand that isn't destroyed, I think it's worth it. They have such a character to them, and when the systems work, they are so enjoyable to drive.

[@franklinpatterson3693]

I keep mine going

[@enjoyradiosilence]

Always good vids but i chuckled at this part -> "There are none of those available, they're unobtanium" half a second later "I actually found one ..." 😂😂

[@stevemueller3705]

Always cool watching two talented mechanics talk with each other.

[@cmkelly1965]

Love the cross over episodes, love the Wizard, Alex and Peter!

[@michaelheimbrand5424]

Seeing a car guy experience a DS for the first time never gets old. :)

[@russellhltn1396]

Wait, wait, wait - you're telling you me you can change the heater core without ripping up the dashboard?? MADNESS!! Madness I tell you!!

[@narekpapukyan5455]

Awesome collaboration! I love learning how to upgrade and maintain my AMG, and Alex's videos are the absolute best! Not too many detailed videos out there specific to AMG maintenance & upgrades. Thanks Car Wizard! Your channel is a godsend on KZbin!

[@harleycondra291]

Back in the day, my uncle bought an1970 Citroen SM. He was a very well to do lawyer, and could afford to keep it running, but he finally sold it in favor of a Porsche. Citroen had purchased Maserati, so it had a Maserati 170 HP V-6. It also sported a very bold Maserati name plate on the trunk lid. As I recall, he was very proud of it.

[@stephenholland5930]

Scott at Cold War Motors has one, and a couple of DSs.

[@brduj]

SM is a iconic car ... perharps 20 or 30 years in advance on her time

[@Fabulousprofound168]

That Citroen continues to not disappoint 👍

[@drnumlock]

I love the parts where modern mechanics marvel at the Citröen and it's quirks. They should end up in some compilation.

[@simes888]

Like having to unbolt the rear wing to change a wheel, but not having to use a jack because the suspension will lift the wheel for you!

[@machtschnell7452]

Wizard needs a Citroen SM with the Maserati V6. One of the better Car Wizard videos.

[@frankyduschek3366]

About the citroen, here in Europe it's called the Goddess The hydraulic systeem is anazing, except when it's broken, it's terrible. Using lhm

[@Bizija123]

I actually started watching LSC from a Wizard episode a long time ago, when Hoovie sold the CL65 to Alex. Wizard and LSC have become my favorite automotive guys.

[@darylkik777]

"I definitely wanted to show you the Citroën" said the Wizard. "I definitely want to see that Citroen", said Alex. "Ok, lets go see that Jaguar." Great episode and am already and have been subscribed to both of you for over a year now. (When I have to try so hard to find anything to comment on , then you know how excellent the show is.)

[@DrRick-dq4bb]

Wizard, your videos are better than ever and just great having Alex visit the Omega Auto Clinic. You should hit 1 million subscribers soon.

[@Bratfalken]

Remember seeing an Citroën sitting on a rocking ferry trying it's best staying level! :)

[@DrRick-dq4bb]

Wizard. You should have shown Alex how to change a tire on the Citroen (LOL!!) and then driving off with 3 wheels!!. That DS21 is hilarious.

[@ocker2000]

I watch both channels. Great to see you both together! Also a good change from Alex's videos with Samcrac. ;)

[@tosickristian7365]

You can just see him falling in love with the Citroen

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

For many years in the UK, the people who took cine film of horse races to check on infractions of the riding rules, would drive along a cinder track on the inside of the rails of the main course ahead of the horses, used the estate safari versions of the DS, with the 35mm cine cameraman on the roof. Following that they used the also hydraulically suspended CX Safari. My wife had a carbureted CX saloon, which we had endless troubles with, after a fill of really dirty fuel.

[@trespire]

That's too bad about the dirty fuel in the CX. I have 2 now., 1975 CX2000 (club), and 1987 CX25 GTI.

[@roelplugers]

The Citroën DS is in Europa also known as the Pike (snoek)

[@facurojas4477]

18:14 I just realized there's a toilet laying around back there, ok

[@trespire]

U never know when U might need to go !

[@liviumihai40]

Funny how americans can still be baffled in 2023 by european technology of the 60's and 70's... when America was flying DC10's and driving around in Ford Pintos over the ocean we were flying Concorde and driving in V12 mid engined supercars with all round independent suspesion sistems...

[@yeahnoway111]

Doug Demuro really needs to review the Citroen when its fixed

[@MG-iv3lp]

I am working in automotive development, in different product groups along the years. You can not learn from +100 years of experience, because all the experience is a human thing. Employees are coming an going. There is no experience passing over. Unfortunately the DTC are a regular rule in industry. (Design To Cost) Most of the colleagues of mine don't even care about quality of the final product as long thay are passing the validation tests.

[@trespire]

It now become a fine art to desighn something to fail just out of warranty. It's a tactic to increase parts sales revenue for the company.

[@moyadapne968]

@@trespire Planned obsolescence. First said in 1932.

[@jimrusch22]

Just like appliances.

[@nachtdiertje78]

I must say , i’m a old Citroën lover , i like those cars but i Just can’t afford them , but they are so cool ! Love it that you bought this care !

[@waynekaminski5438]

Alex got a once in a lifetime crank start on a Citroen! How cool is that! Thanks for bringing Alex on your channel.

[@markblanchard2280]

You cannot give us enough on the Citroen DS seeing that you can kick-start a car was just mind-blowing

[@stangman962]

Great to see you guys collaborating. Car guys love to see that! It’s a community of brothers and some sisters!!!! Love your channels

[@Mariazellerbahn]

13:30 I remember the Buick 3.8 V6 in the 70's. It had plastic timing chain SPROCKETS. I had a Buick Skyhawk and Oldsmobile Starfire with the same engines and they failed at just five years old. Mind you, the bodywork was also rusted through by then.

[@tedbiernacki376]

Alex as a Mercedes consultant is completely different guy from his channel with his and Peter antics ! Hands folded, looks like he's in Church ! Hope you guys can cross pollinate and pickup some subscribers ! I'm already there !

[@tlr_shenanigans]

LOVED this collaboration!! Two of my favorite and most educational people on KZbin. Thank you both for the content and knowledge!

[@macstone9719]

It is great that the really nice guys in the youtube car world are somehow connected and do stuff together. 😁😁👍

[@philroder4878]

Once again the Citroen steals the show.

[@braxtonnelson7422]

It's always a good day when two of your favorite KZbinrs get together for a video! Especially when they are both gifted mechanics and are so good at explaining what they are doing, and they both have a good sense of humour!

[@GasStationSushiiii]

I love LegitStreetCars, got to meet him in Chicagoland at a cars and coffee and got to take a photo of our Benz' together... Love to see both your success

[@emidiojoao-s9u]

That's the beauty of the Citroen! Here in Europe and Mozambique we can still see this babies running in the streets. Nice video👌. Cheers from Portugal! ✌️🇵🇹🇲🇿😎

[@Ghost63123]

A friend of mine's father had a Citroen DS 23 Pallas. It was the ultimate DS Citroen. It had a 5 speed gearbox as well. It was the smoothest car ever to ride in. Jay Leno is correct. An amazing car

[@trespire]

The ultimate DS was the 23efi, with fuel injection. If I'm not mistaken, it has 138 bhp. A 5 speed box if a must for long drives.

[@adrianhope4796]

These Citroens are much admired in Europe, with good reason. The first of this type was mid 50s I think ; so advanced the and it looks to me like it wears well.

[@houseofno]

Awesome! I love crossover videos and Alex from LSC is one of the best.

[@MrBdavis99]

As an ex-Mercedes-Benz dealer tech, the smell of Pentosin CHS11S hydraulic fluid brings back bad memories of servicing those ABC systems. 🥴

[@fit_pharmd4830]

STELLAR COLLAB WIZARD. THE CHEMISTRY YOU TWO HAVE IS VERY NOTICEABLE AS IS THE ENTHUSIASM YOU BOTH BRING DURING YOUR CONVERSATIONS! PURE KZbin GOLD!

[@Melmac481]

Try the CX Pallas, that is soooo comfy to drive and more modern but still as nice!

[@trespire]

The CX has the best ride and handling. But you need the correct tires.

[@zvakanaka2000]

Citroën had the gearbox ahead of the engine since 1934...... and hydropneumatic appeared first on the rear suspention in 1954. For us, it's very common.....

[@trespire]

The hydropneumatic system first appeared on the rear axle only of late production Traction Avant, as you stated just prior to 1955. The Traction Avant is another ground braking car. Has great handling for getting away from the Gistapo in Paris' tight winding streets !!

[@williamlloyd3769]

Too funny, Wizard is still getting great use / value from his auction bid / win of AV carts!

[@dbd626]

Wizard needs a daily partner to exchange thoughts and plans. Much better show when there is another person expert to work with.

[@Chris4mz]

Truly a great collaboration , on a valuable topic for the many MB owners.

[@geoffmarsh7986]

Love the reaction to this car, Iconic now in Europe, almost occult following, and much respected.

[@zburnham]

I noticed the loo behind the guys at around 18:30 and was surprised to find that I wasn't surprised by that. I love this channel.

[@MikeJohnson-ld9rn]

Great episode with both you and Alex , Wizard!

[@trespire]

Citroën hydraulics are bullet proof, litrally ( remember De Gaules assasination attempt ! ). Out of all the fancy overly complex mercedes engineering, or any other suspension manufacturer, non even come close to Citroën system. The DS is car of the century for a very good reason.

[@QuidproMoto]

Starting that Citroën is one of the best things I have seen. Awesome!

[@thatguy6111]

The fact they can do the Citroen review with straight faces with a toilet in the background is priceless. Like every mechanic shop has a random toilet on the floor in the work area…I know it’s for the bus but the fact it was not there as a gag and they just press on made me smile that much harder.

[@sailortristan]

Great to see your personalities complement and reflect on each other. Great approachable technical conversation

[@Rambogner]

Mercedes ABC, the suspension nobody asked for, nobody needed and nobody wanted

[@IkeVMAX4]

And nobody wants to repair.

[@torygyberg8837]

What a great idea to do the walk around and talk shop!

[@unstablebobgable]

The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on KZbin. I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background!

[@demetri1651]

😂😂

[@SaintAndSinner99]

are you ok? you post this on every video. wonder if its a bot

[@wolfeadventures]

Waddling. Lol.

[@claytonbyrd6134]

​@@SaintAndSinner99he's got a personalized spam comment for each KZbinr

[@lyfandeth]

A citron is a real thing. A citrus fruit similar to a lemon or lime that grows on trees.

[@garage779]

Dude, I loved this episode. Glad to see both of you go through these great cars. Tons of automotive knowledge at work. Keep it up!

[@J_J_Ander]

Now come on guys. My two favorite channels together!!!

[@melvinburwell8202]

Very unique car. Cool. Hey Wizard have you talked to Jay L. about this vehicle? He has a couple of them but not this model. I think. Could be wrong.👍🤑🤑❤😝😎

[@omarjette3859]

Jay's car is a 2.1 liter vs.Wiz's is 1.9 liter. A few other details - Jay has real leather seats, but no side rail door moldings. Those moldings just invite rusting. Otherwise, pretty much the same car.

[@RonV682]

My 2 favorite mechanics on KZbin in one video ! I never miss any of their videos and it’s a rare treat to see these 2 guys together. Both of these men are always full of insight on automobiles and can make us understand how and why we need to keep our vehicles maintained. Thanks to both of you gentlemen for your honesty and sharing your expertise with all of us on KZbin 😊 !

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

These guys are such good people - and could talk shop all day.

[@malonemillers4465]

This was one of your EPIC videos as far as teaching the ABC's about M.B. w/Alex!👍

[@malonemillers4465]

If this was a Rock video it would be the collaboration equivalent to the likes of TOOL & GODSMACK!✌🌟✌

[@jamesfarnarkler]

With that beautiful suspension it's no wonder the Citroen DS won a few Monte Carlo rallies back in the day. They also made convertible and wagon versions too.

[@joecutro7318]

2 great mechanics, 2 great channels. 1 great collaboration! Thanks for the content guys! Fun stuff.

[@noelwest6130]

Great video, funny to watch reaction from an experienced mechanic.

[@karlreinke9653]

Tell him about driving on 3 wheels!

[@chaoszombie9995]

It’s amazing how technologically advanced the Citroën DS was.. especially in 1969… I see why Rolls Royce wanted the licensing to use this cars suspension

[@jmsjms296]

The DS came out with that setup in the mid Fifties.

[@OB928]

Name a better crossover event for car repair knowledge; I’ll wait.

[@basstor1]

The hydraulic system in the DS is insane. And I believe they sold it to both Mercedes and Rolls-Royce. And you`ll find the same system in the CX and XM models.

[@robstephens]

For anyone hand cranking an engine, need to ensure your thumb is up and not wrapped around the crank in case the engine kicks back as the crank could break your thumb bone and severely injure the thumb joint.

[@acd1202]

The gearbox in front of the engine is weird to most eyes but in France from the 60s to the 80s everybody did it, not just Citroën, but Renault and Peugeot also built cars this way.

[@starkyslp16]

Alex and the LSC channel are the best! I think Wizard, Alex, and Jared should team up Car Trek style. Do some questionable builds together or build offs against each other

[@jimrodriguez7640]

I’d watch!

[@briandstephmoore4910]

It's so cool of Alex to help out these small youtubers

[@mikekovacs8981]

Love the Citroen. Wizard will be like a 70s Harvard Professor driving in that LOL

[@jacobdorph816]

Alex's videos on his C65 were understandibly a nightmare for him but today are among his best material, I followed it with keen interest.

[@bojow8102]

I agree with the Citroen being too cool to not own 😆👍 Every dream collection needs a weird car. Thank you for the videos 👍

[@stonepa]

I bought a W240 500SEL new in 1992. Best car i have ever owned. Over 8 years, only regular maintenance and one accumulator bulb. Funny, i used to live in the high rise next to the old downtown Chicago Mercedes dealership at Clark and division . They kept my car healthy for many years.

[@papillionlife372]

Love a collaboration with my two favourite mechanics!

[@leerob342]

This was a cool colab. I think they both learned something from eachother and that in itself is a good day.

[@tomkatdj]

If you are going to do a conversion buy the full setup from Germany, these cars all came with standard suspension in various models, with sway bars and excellent handling. The kits sold in the US are garbage……

[@lesklower7281]

There's a you tuber in the UK and he has Citreon GSA and he never gets tired of the GSA rising up when ever he starts it up

[@YoannCharlie]

Hey Wizzard ! The Citroën is a DS (Citroën the car manufacturer and DS the model), a very iconic car here in France, it was technologically very advanced when it came out and was the car used by presidents for a number of years. The pronunciation of DS in french is "déesse" which means goddess. Citroën is a big french car manufacturer still producing a lot of cars to this day, a lot of them are circulating throughout Europe.

[@simes888]

Actually an ID19, not a DS.

[@jonbullock773]

Driving on three wheels was used by Citroen in one of their ads, abo9ut three cars in unison!

[@boilerroomed3682]

You might have actually said what an "ABC System" is! I had to look it up: Active Body Control.....

[@awakennomore]

I love a good You Tube car guru collaboration and this is top tier. On one hand you have Alex from Legit Street Cars, who shows you how to fix just about anything. On the other you have David the Car Wizard who shows you the inner workings of a reputable mechanic's shop and how to avoid ending up there. Just awesome.

[@briangallwey548]

The plastic timing gear problem was only with the 4 litre V8 Jaguar motor. It was retro fitted by Jaguar at no expense to the owner. None of the following V8s featured plastic timing gear.

[@drifter905]

Great video guys. Great collaboration 👌