Seriously, AMAZON Released Their Own Power Tools? vs Same $ Walmart & HF

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If you're curious to see Denali: amzn.to/3vcwlZC Bauer: shorturl.at/mz078 Hart: shorturl.at/bcdkX (not affiliate links) We bought Amazon's very own new power tools Denali! We check them out to see if they are any good, and to do so also purchased the brushed Bauer Drill Kit from Haorbor Freight 1791C-B1 and brushless Hart from Walmart HPDD25B. Some surprising results on both ends for us.
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As always Torque who started this channel is working for Astro Tools who don't make any cordless drills, that said always consider multiple sources when looking at tool!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Those with the lifetime of tool rankings would have seen Drill Drivers added earlier this week: etsy.me/3G8j3QK What do you want to see tested next, shoot for the sky in power? The latest model of a certain brand. Let us know. As alwas, Torque to who started this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools - who don't make cordless tools but you should always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

[@On2wheels94]

Old NiCad Drills from yesteryears, also, maybe some 120v corded tools

[@7mpowerd]

I got my XPH14 Makita I could send in and the XDT19 driver.

[@zacktalksshopbside]

So I wonder how the brushless Hart drill (HPDD26) I tested would compare with yours? I got the kit for $88 I think so it is in the ballpark price-wise. Like you saw the chuck is better on the one I tested and it also comes with that new battery with the battery level meter on it (the insides are probably the same, but I haven't checked). Thanks for the video. I love all the stuff you guys put together to test tools with!

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

High power cordless drills would be interesting. The Bosch Profactor drill/hammer drill claims to be the most powerful

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@zacktalksshopbside It was $99 when these were purchased. Your testing seems to indicate a small step above the bauer. So if this one's equal, that one is the next step above.

[@Nanan00]

I did a field job last spring, someone forgot to pack the cordless drill in our job box. The closest tool/hardware store was over 100 miles from the job site but there was a walmart 20 miles away. We got a hart drill and some drill bits with the intent of using it for the day and going and getting a dewalt or milwaukee the next day before I headed out to the job site. We were able to drill about 90 1/2" holes and build 4 large shipping crates with 3" decking screws without any real issue with the hart drill, I was actually impressed.

[@JWill6969]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect any real issues. Hart is owned TTI and despite the lower price tag, they have the experience to back it up. If you'd be willing to buy Ryobi then Hart would probably be good enough.

[@TheBootyWrangler]

Dude I used the fucking HYPER TOUGH kit at work for a YEAR because my boss was a piece of absolute work (had to go buy all my own dewalts with my own poor ass $s) and tbh they WORKED. Not nearly as powerful but they got the job DONE. No problem! It took the entire year before their impact driver died and when it died it was during a comparison test to dewalt I was doing with a coworker. We just pushed it to it’s absolute limit (that the dewalts did far far surpass) but if you’re just doing normal casual labor they work absolutely fine

[@biffmalibu3733]

You got lucky. I got a 1/2 inch hammer drill and regular drill. Batteries crap out after 1 or 2 holes and the hammer drill stripped out its gears in 2 or 3 uses.

[@jdoerr779]

@@TheBootyWrangler I bought like five packs of Hyper Tough wrenches from WalMart a few years ago. I bought them so I would have plenty of wrenches I wouldn’t feel bad about cutting up/ bending to get into weird areas. I don’t feel like the HT wrenches have ever unperformed in the slightest. They are an absolute deal.

[@TejasToolMan]

Had good luck with Hart too as a back up when the crew forgets the drill bags at 3am and Walmart open, and we're still using it months later

[@aidanbishop7924]

I never thought I would see the day when a comparatively priced tool makes Hart and Bauer look like monsters in terms of performance.

[@orijimi]

Denali is easily the worst brand name in Chervon's entire portfolio. Worse than any power tool at Harbor Freight too.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Unfortunately needed to buy it to find that out. The reviews aren't very helpful

[@TheRealMikeWilly]

Lol, I read that as Chevron and was wondering wtf an oil company was doing making shitty tools 🤣

[@lasermasterclass]

yeah, hate the name!

[@jameshill4900]

Maybe they thought they could piggyback on the GMC high end* branding. Not a great name. They must have forgot to call me for the focus group 😢

[@kylefowler5082]

@@jameshill4900 they are 100 percent piggybacking on the GMC Denali name. Amazon knows the poor people recognize the Denali name as high end.

[@nozzlepie]

Aldi has a bare impact driver for £10, it'd be nice to see how the German discount supermarket tools stack up.

[@ThatMSportGuy]

Ferrex tools are actually decent from my experience, the cordless screwdriver has decent power and bit selection, and the angle grinder is surprisingly good for resurfacing material with a wire wheel or flap disk

[@smpstech]

Aldi's is way different in the US. They hardly offer anything but food, and its all basically one step above dollar store food. A lot of it is still good, but yeah just super cheap.

[@Surmoka]

In Europe the Ferrex tools (Aldi) and Parxide (Lidl) are around mid-level DIYer tools. Many of them are supplied by Einhell, a german-sounding (relabeled) chinese brand that is not entirely shit tbh. But they are below B&D which is below Stanley Fatmax which is somewhat below Dewalt or Milfookee.

[@drister007]

Yes, THIS! Also Lidl have very good tools for the price named Parkside and they are very popular in Europe. There are 2 versions: Parkside performance with brushless motor for 90 euros and green Parkside for 40, would be nice if torque test channel could test both.

[@alfredomarquez9777]

@@Surmoka NOT TOTALLY TRUE... Look, A FEW of the Einhell tools are surprisingly BETTER executed than many "prestige brand" tools... Their bench grinder is the only correctly designed bench grinder that has a TRUE shaft end, that allows you to ACCURATELY mount a grinding wheel. Even a Makita bench grinder comes with USELESS stamped sheetmetal "washers" to "hold" the abrasive wheels, and it is almost impossible to get the wheels CENTERED and SQUARED to the shaft... The Einhell on the contrary, CAN be used to Precisely mount a grinding wheel perfectly!

[@DeadKoby]

I remember when HF was just a mail order business selling some of the poorest grade tools. That's changed.......although it's still low priced tools, they now have MANY products that are a good value.

[@johnmckee7937]

Unfortunately Amazon will sell thousands of Denali tools. Remember a lot of home owners only use these tools only assembly box furniture or build bird houses. Unfortunately Don't know the difference in quality tools or Don't want to spend the money on them. Love your channel, keep it up.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I agree, and it should install flat pack furniture and hang pictures on drywall fine. It's why we didn't just review the tools alone, because obviously it will be low power and not do THE BEST. But I think the real crime is someone can spend that same amount of cash (sales changes things of course) and buy a better, higher performing, more durable product that already existed then have some headroom in the future if they need to use a forstner bit or drill through some metal

[@johnmckee7937]

@@TorqueTestChannel I buy the best I can afford myself. Which is often low end since I'm retired and use them less. Education is very important. Ever since shop classes have removed from schools the trades have had trouble getting kids into them. Most don't know what a Forster bit is. I was terrible in shop. Went into electronics. I enjoy woodworking now.

[@jerryvelasco1474]

I agree. I think Amazon has saw a small market share and has decided DIY rookies will be a profitable venture.

[@Megasteel32]

@@dchawk81 not anymore, they are slacking on the shipping

[@chocolatethunder3218]

I found that Bauer kit at my local HF on the clearance table for $49.99. Been using it pretty aggressively at work for over a year, and It's been a trooper. have had the motor up above 300°F and the tool smoking on multiple occasions. It just keeps going.

[@randyhammer7777]

While that might be the case, I can assure you that will increase the resistance in the windings and damage the insulation on them. Reducing the torque available each time until failure.

[@queueeeee9000]

@@randyhammer7777 if it ain't broke...

[@randyhammer7777]

@@queueeeee9000 But it is. You can't deny Physics don't ya know. Like I said, it might "keep going" but at those temps you're cooking the windings = less torque

[@intellatek]

@@randyhammer7777 "You totally can't get those sweet meaningless numbers anymore bro" I'm sure it still drills holes

[@MyGrowthRings]

I’ve been using a half dozed Bauer drills in a cabinetmaking class with unskilled coworkers for about three years now, and with the exception of a few batteries that died while left sitting on a charger for months on end during the pandemic, they have been reliable and powerful enough for everything we’ve put them through. Great video. Scott.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

I think it's great and commendable how your videos not only entertain and enlighten, but also help to save many people from wasting their hard earned money on inferior power tools. Thank you.

[@michaelcrumlett187]

I’ve been abusing both the Bauer drill and driver in a municipal garage for over a year now, so I’m not terribly surprised that the drill outperforms the other bottom feeders. My Milwaukee and DeWalt tools are definitely nicer and perform better, but the Bauer complete kit costs less than single batteries for the others.

[@likeaboss882]

I’d love to see all the offerings from harbor freight compared. The bauer really surprised me, serious performance from a brushed sub-$100 tool.

[@ColbyJohnson]

They have brushless stuff now too 😁

[@xXm619killaxX]

Yes, please check it out some more there only going up from here 🙌😁👌

[@chrisjones6002]

You can get a brushless drill, impact driver, 1.5a battery and charger for $99 on sale right now. I don't see how you can beat that deal.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@chrisjones6002 You can also get the next step up Hart brushless drill driver with metal chuck, 2ah and charger for $90.

[@semra156]

@@TorqueTestChannel would love to see the slightly more expensive hart vs the Bauer brushless drill & their new brushless impact driver

[@pianomail]

I have the Bauer Drill, and honestly, it's a great drill. The Bauer is also the only one of those three that feels quality. I haven't held the Denali (which looks like a toy) but I've held the Hart and they feel cheap. The Bauer paired with the metal chuck and a 5AH battery, and it drills through hard steel with sharp bits just fine.

[@Jay_Ira]

I came here to see these make their home at the bottom of the ranking chart. I was not disappointed. Thanks guys, I think we can all agree we don't need to see future Denali power tools on the channel.

[@TheRealColBosch]

No, we need to see them, because if they improve we should know about it.

[@disgruntledegghead6923]

The proof is in the pudding, you get what you pay for. They need to rearrange a few letters and just label it Denial.

[@truelightguy]

At work I use a Bosch 12v screwgun to put rack screws for rackunits in road cases. We use the number 4 setting everytime for consistency. I think a really useful and interseting measure for you guys to check is the clutch settings on the drills you all have and compare that to other drills and batterytypes for consistancy.

[@phil0083]

Holy hell, that was a good video, man. I mean, it just doesn't get any more comprehensive than that. I spotted these tools the other day and wondered in my head if they were worth anything. These videos are great for someone who's in the market and just wants to down and dirty and eat their heart out with numbers to make as much of an informed decision as possible.

[@kcl5038]

Who is buying "Denali by Skil" when literal Skil Powercore 20v tools are sold by amazon for the same price or even cheaper sometimes. You can buy that same drill/driver and impact kit in skil 20v for $85, you can buy just the drill driver kit in skil 20v for $61 or get a brushless skil 20v drill driver kit for $90. I would love to see a comparison of these Denali tools with skil 20v. It'd also be fun to see how they stack up against porter cable and maybe craftsman in a battle of the has-been tool brands. I feel like Porter Cable never gets any attention on KZbin. I see them at tractor supply and they have a certain feel good heft to them but I just know they're probably junk.

[@MD-en3zm]

Wow, crushed by the brushed harbor freight bargain drill. I wonder how the HF warrior does compared to Denali - probably comparable-ish?

[@Bob_Adkins]

Probably a more fair comparison, too.

[@engineer_alv]

that one and Walmart's Hyper Tough, or brushed Hart

[@h8GW]

TBF, Harbor Freight's bargain drill is their Warrior brand....which probably stacks up to the Denali but at a sub-$40 price point.

[@intellatek]

Warrior goes on sale for $19 every couple of weeks and I bet even that crushes the Denali. For that price, you really can't beat it.

[@jabroni6199]

I almost ordered a Denali 6.5” circular saw even though I already have a Milwaukee Fuel, just out of morbid curiosity to see how a saw that inexpensive performs. Ultimately I decided the money was better spent making 10 separate trips to Starbucks.

[@christianbound4972]

10 trips to Starbucks? They must have lowered their prices.

[@TheMetalButcher]

Why make more pollution buying known junk? I don't understand that philosophy.

[@surajdesilva4554]

@@christianbound4972 you kidding me. They have tall cups with a false bottom that is way closer to the top. Price gone up, you get a bigger cup and you are still thirsty or craving for coffee :-) after emptying your wallet!!!

[@davidperry4013]

Owning better quality tools is better for the environment. Ryobi tools are mid grade and are a solid choice too, there are some carpenters that use nothing but, Ryobi, Skil, and/or Craftsman tools. However there are some DIYers that find that Festool is worth every penny not just Milwaukee, Makita, Flex, and Dewalt.

[@jabroni6199]

@@TheMetalButcher entertainment

[@garmbeliblis]

Keep testing the basement variety tools please, it helps with perspective on how incredible the top end tools have become

[@speedstrn]

For anyone who is impressed by Bauer, right now HF has a combo deal where you get the brushless version of their drill and the brushless impact driver, with the 1.5 battery and charger for $99 total. And you can get two of the 5ah batteries for $80.

[@niclikescakes]

Home depot has a similar deal with Milwaukee's new m12 drill/impact kit, with 2 batteries AND a free 2.5 high output battery for $199. Worth the extra 100 bucks even for a DIY situation.

[@cidercreekranch]

Do know if you can get your hands on one but a vintage Makita 9v NiCd powered drill. That was the first cordless drill I purchased 30+ years ago. It would nice to see how it compares to today's offerings.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I must have 2-3 of them still from back in my days working in my teens and 20's. The batteries are definitely shot, though i do miss the slap in motion. Man nothing beats slapping in a new battery magazine on those, and that weird bumpy texture on those Makita tools that somehow just worked. I think their specific power output compared to today's stuff would betray my fond memories though.

[@larryjohns8823]

Same with those early craftsman cordless drills. Mine was big and heavy, but had tons of torque.

[@kylefowler5082]

@@TorqueTestChannel you can buy new batteries for those 9v Makitas at Batteries+Bulbs. My local store claims to have them in stock lol. It would make for a fun video.

[@procrastinator1842]

Or the first NiCd black and decker from 1961...lol

[@galootlovestools]

I have a Makita right angle drill with the 9.6V battery and my Bauer drill greatly outperforms it.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Thank you! Not in the market for something like this but good to know what to suggest if someone asks.

[@EnriqueSar]

Got my Ryobi P262, and I'm happy, im not a mechanic but from. Time to time work on my 3 cars and does the job really well, thanks for the video I wasn't looking for just got it as suggestions 👍

[@jeffleake1960]

a few years back when starting out in my job i bought the worxs brushless drill/driver impact driver combo kit , then bought some 4AH batteries and they served me well for a couple of years until i upgraded to the milwaukee versions . when i passed them on and as far as i know there still going strong today

[@cup_and_cone]

33ft-lb on the 1/4" Denali? Simply have no words for that level of performance...

[@Pippy1]

Ive absolutely beat the hell out of my bauer and its just kept on trucking. The chuck is starting to give up and sometimes wont back off but its still going. Its lived a life of drilling through almost only metal

[@redneckcomputergeek]

Wonder is Skil fixed its 2 know problems before making these. 1st problem: I removed all links on my channel to their drill cause they durst into flames. My Skil sponsorship warrantied 2 of them that caught fire. Now have a 3rd sitting on a shelf I fear to use. 2nd problem: I have a BMS circuit board swap video that gets 500 to 1k views a month cause the 5.0 battery BMS dies if used in the brushless grinder. 4 warrantied batteries and still dropping dead. Skil ghosted me leading to the discovery the 2.0 battery BMS is different. Bought used ones off ebay and rebuilt 5 of them.

[@creekwoods5625]

It'd be amazing if you guys could test that orange impact that plugs into the cigarette lighter thats made by Mplus, its slow, looks like a blender, but somebodys made a few videos showing them using it to break loose axle nuts and crank pully bolts, and I just have to know what kind of beans that thing makes

[@riba2233]

Love these tests, can't wait to see more!

[@7mpowerd]

Got a XPH14 Makita if y’all wanna test it.

[@TopGoose-bf1mx]

You know, I get that there's better tools than what Harbor Freight offers, but I walked into Harbor Freight yesterday and replaced about 7 rachets and a torque wrench that served me well, 2 of them being over 6 years old. 0 cost to me, walked in with broken hand tools, walked out with brand new replacements. I have a Bauer Impact Driver, an OLD Earthquake XT electric rachet and impact wrench as well, and especially the earthquakes have been extremely reliable. Even after being left in the rain on more than one occasion. I used to work for VW where a lot of the Veteran/Master Techs had SnapOn, Gearwrench, and a bunch of other fancy pants tools that were a joy to use, but to this day I still work on several Euro cars that I own and I'm yet to be let down by any of my Harbor Freight tools, even my Earthquake air impact. Damn I have a lot of tools from Harbor Freight lol.

[@Clough42]

You are correct that inertia does not affect your torque measurement as long as your resistance is steady or gradually increasing. I tested this after getting the same comments on my servo testing video. Search for "clough42 does inertia affect torque" if you're interested.

[@truthsmiles]

I’m a dewalt snob but my girlfriend wanted an impact drill for around the house so I got her a Bauer brushed. It came with a 1.5, charger, and bag. I was forced to use it the other day and I must admit it was perfectly acceptable and more than enough for wood drilling and driving 2.5” long screws. A steal for the $60 I paid.

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

Buy a Bauer,, that's crazy.... Truer words have never been spoken.. I just bought my 4th Bauer to go along with my hundreds of Milwaukee's..

[@DrThunder88]

Nice test rig! I look forward to more head-to-head drill/driver tests. Top picks for contenders would be from Worx (especially the Switchdriver) and a Hercules brushless...if there were such a thing!

[@Spockkker]

Not surprised, Amazon specializes in selling AliExpress quality products at inflated prices. Let's be honest, no one who is serious about purchasing quality products should be purchasing anything from Amazon these days.

[@ALAPINO]

If you live in the Canadian market you'll recognize the Denali's parts bin.

[@rolfefeutz2105]

I love my Bauer drill. I've been using it for about a year now.

[@ChefBoyarDEEZ]

I got the Craftsman cordless brad nailer from Lowes for $99 but it didn't come with batteries. A battery and charger was $79 - $99, but they had the craftsman drill and impact driver kit that came with 2 x 1.5ah batteries, charger, and bag for $99 so I just got that. They are decent tools for projects around the house, I took em to work to try em out, they did fairly well, I like how they feel in the hand but my ridgid 18v's are more powerful, which isn't necessarily a good thing for what I do.

[@ayyyitsfrosty40]

We use Hart impacts and sawzalls for drilling/cutting field tile, and we never really have a problem with either of them even when they’re super wet or muddy. When you’re in the hole connecting a line to a main, it’s more than likely gonna be super muddy especially if you already cut the hole in the main, and even then the Hart tools work fine halfway submerged under mud water. The batteries last like 10 minutes though and take forever to charge, that’s the only advantage our Milwaukees have over the Harts imo

[@AudioGuru09]

I have Bauer Milwaukee and Makita and I love every Bauer tool I own. I really enjoyed that test.

[@gaspowerrules]

I honestly just love this channel look forward to more drill test ,would like to see ,kobalt,ryobi,hitachi drills

[@hanyoukimura]

Next up I'd like to see Skil's own drills put to the test, like the brushless 12v. Would be fun to pit Ryobi's old P214 hammer drill against the brushless PBLHM101B .

[@HELacey]

How is it that nobody in this channel has truly offered the holy grail of impacts to be brought forth and amaze the masses? I’m not talking about the F1 guns, a swench, or even a jet turbine powered impact. I want business. I want to see the Craftsman that Andrew Camarata beat down for years and years on heavy equipment.

[@the_mexican_pyro]

I never thought id ever see a harbor freight tool win in a competition. Im used to their tools being used as kinda cheap throw away tools when you need a really cheap specialty tool. Nice to finally see them win something though

[@davidli3582]

I'd like to see the Ryobi set that sells for around $100 and the Milwaukee M12 that goes for around that on sale.

[@riglowkun]

Got a few hart brushless tools from, the clearance rack at my Walmart. They have helped me SOO MUCH. Very underrated tools

[@ColeG515]

Great video. It's really good to see somebody test drills. Especially the way Stanley Black & Decker use the uwo. I would love to see how the Kobalt XTR drill Stacks up against the Milwaukee and the DeWalt. I've heard great things about the flex drill At Lowe's as well. I actually bought the Kobalt XTR drill after watching the guys over on the vcg construction Channel test it against the DeWalt and Milwaukee.

[@christopherbooth1772]

You could also make a adapter for this to function on cordless grinders and circular saws the saw would be places on a plate with a grove for the blade guide and shimmed to hight and angle grinder could use a 14mm nut to a shaft with atatchment for the motor

[@GuyFromJupiter]

I'd like to see how the Kobalt XTR hammer drill compares to the M18 Fuel and DeWalt XR. They advertise pretty similar specs to the Fuel, and if it really matches up pretty well in performance and warranty for a bit less money and compatibility with one of the cheapest battery platforms on the market I think that's a phenomenal value proposition.

[@melvingibson4525]

It's not as good

[@jozsefizsak]

Very interesting and informative. Thanks once again!

[@Pirkel19]

Testing Wisconsin’s based Menards (our ‘Home Depot/Lowes’) line of tools; Masterforce. To compete with the other ‘store line’ of tools category and tools in general as Masterforce has a wide range of tools and Menards is getting to be in almost 20 states.

[@mattv5281]

You should test right angle drills on your drill setup. They can put out a lot of torque. I could loan you the Makita 36V beast of a drill (XAD03Z) if you'd like to test it.

[@jaysdood]

How the hell you guys haven't got 1 million subscribers I have no idea.

[@jaykeinnes6793]

The fact they went brushed is crazy, the ozito pxc range here in Aus (I assume it's elsewhere I just never see video on here) are bloody unreal for the money you pay, 50-100 AUD gets you soo many different tools and a lot of accessories and some tools under 30 bucks. The ozito brush less drill is better than my makita that was the last of the brushed.

[@adventureswithdavedave]

What about some old school battery powered stuff? Maybe a video on how far (or not) technology has come with battery powered drills/drivers. And in a similar note, since older equipment might lose some performance. What about testing newer tools that have seen daily use at job sites and see how they measure up after a few months daily use

[@AlexConnor_]

$85 for the Denali impact driver kit (2x 2.0), or $89 for the Skil 20V brushless kit (1x 2.0) which is a vastly better tool and in my experience has enough power to hang out with an M12 stubby impact wrench. Maybe even beat the Milwaukee. There's pretty much zero reason to go for Denali when Skil already exists and get sold through Amazon for pretty much the same price.

[@Kunfucious577]

Not sure about that. My skil took a crap in less than a year.

[@jaktucker777]

"Like a thin empty skillet" What a great descriptor

[@dogleg6669]

I've had the Bauer drill for about 4 years, beat the crap out of it and it's running strong. My 20v dewalt I've had for 3 years and take care of the chuck broke last week.... I miss the power of the dewalt but Bauer is old faithful stll.

[@jacksonkyle9671]

You'll probably need to use a legitimate encoder to get enough positional resolution to match the strain gauge which will more or less be limited by your DAQ

[@josephmerz2666]

loved it .really is great information . look forward to seeing more compared .

[@bluesraincancun9217]

Thanks for the info.

[@drewlogan4341]

just get cheap rachet and a Hamer for impact driver if you want a upgraded one just use a snap on rachet I personally use the $10 craftsman one that came with some sockets and case and is also brushless I also find it verry flexible in terms of space and beans variation

[@drfalcon4102]

Ive been in the Bauer line for about 3 years now,, granted not the top line stuff, but, Ive found them long lasting and tough,,,

[@justinv3080]

I was at advance auto parts and saw a couple items you may be able to add to the testing queue? Diehard DH80004 a 20v 1/2 impact wrench kit 140 bucks with 2ah battery and charger, rated at 300 foot beans. They also have a 3/8 inch 12v cordless ratchet DH80008, a 99 dollar kit with 2ah battery rated at 398 inch beans. Could be good in a budget comparison.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

Thanks for this. I plan to keep buying the bottom-feeders until batteries become standardized (like wired power,) so it's Bauer until then.

[@procrastinator1842]

That will never, ever, ever happen.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

@@procrastinator1842 I'm an old man and I'm regularly amused by how many features of our daily lives were once also thought of similarly. I'd say it's already begun.

[@procrastinator1842]

@Jack The stubbornness of the tool companies will ensure that this won't happen.

[@HrHaakon]

It's weird seeing people discuss their $10 000 set of tools that they have and use everyday, and then there's me who bought a $100 DeWalt impact drill to assemble Ikea stuff with. (It did do the job really well. The bit where you can set max torque it will apply to the screw is fantastic for that task. Idk. if it's on every powertool but man that was nice.) It's interesting to see that no matter where you go, there's a large amount of knowledge about the tools people use.

[@SomeShmuck]

This channel and Project Farm are must haves for the savy tool buyer

[@endurocox5467]

The best channel on KZbin! Can you test battery adapters, Milwaukee to dewalt & others? I bought a cheap O off Amazon & it’s a piece of junk. They all seem to have iffy reviews.

[@Wizkid490]

You know, my biggest complaint isn't even that these tools are junk. Not everyone needs a top-tier power tool, and these are probably perfectly fine for diy'ers who want to hang pictures and put together furniture. But that's not how these are marketed. They're built on the Skil 20V platform, a well known brand and high voltage rating. Worse, they sell for $120. The HF Warrior tools these are probably closest to sell for ~$75 together (and they're only sold ala carte!). Walmart sells a similar kit under their Hyper Tough brand for $70, or $100 with a recip saw included! Craftsman has their combo kit at $99, and both Dewalt and Makita are offering 12v combo kits for a similar price the Amazon. The list goes on. Black and Decker? $85. Porter Cable? $130. Ryobi on Amazon? $86. Hell, HD will sell you the Ryobi compact HP brushless combo with a bag for $130. To someone who knows nothing about tools, these seem like a good mid tier option, when they're bottom tier junk priced 40-50% higher than they should be

[@gregpetroski6333]

would really like to see some of the m12 milwaukee stuff compared here. I had the really big m18 brushed drill for a few years and it burned out. Went to a cheaper m12 brushless and it has been great. Not terribly hard to stall out but also it's not snapping my wrists off if it gets caught. I believe it was $150canadian with two batteries. I got the "best" one that isn't a hammer drill because I have never successfully used the hammer function on any drill. Always a waste of time. Even use a tubing notcher sometimes with it and it's good.

[@Callelle6251]

Was waiting for you to give this junk a shot. I'm curious to see how they compare to the actual SKIL tools, I'm sure you already have that on the docket though.

[@noahmoore2907]

Would love to see some more Kobalt XTR tools tested

[@nielsduineveld2868]

You can put the kickback out if you want with the bosch

[@cooperscott6574]

I use my Bauer drill nearly every day at work for misc tasks and so far 2 years in I've had 0 problems and it's took as much abuse as my Dewalt stuff can't complain for the price

[@pauldrice1996]

You should get a hunk of metal from a scrap yard and make holes in it and see how much metal in grams each drill can hog out in a given time. Maybe make a drill press type jig if you want to get fancy and use a consistent feed pressure.

[@davidcarter9211]

I’ve been seeing Brushless Makita tool battery and charger for $79 on Amazon. 1/2 drill and 1/4 impact. 3ah batteries

[@Petesworkshop2225]

Installed one of those vector motors 2 weeks ago on a stretch wrapper. $110 motor? Hell ya.

[@nathanwest2304]

please test the Makita DHP481 I had this drill for a while and it is pretty powerful 600x8mm bolts are no problem, just a matter of how much your bit can take and how well you hold the tool

[@chrisjones6002]

Right now you can get a Bauer brushless drill, impact driver, 1.5amp batter and charger for $99. Assuming the brushless is at least as good as the brushed in this test that's a heck of a deal. I'm tempted to buy it and I already have a drill and impact driver.

[@SuperSpy00bob]

IMO Harbor Freight has been doing a pretty good job of delivering not-crap cheap tools recently. They won't replace Makita in my case as someone that's constantly doing stupid stuff like drilling 1/2 holes in plate steel, but I'd recommend them to anyone that just needs something cheap that isn't going to grenade the instant they try to drive along screw into a 2x4.

[@m9ovich785]

Thanks Guys.. These are the kind of Tools to keep in a Vehicle You are not worried about getting stolen if they are usable for the Task at hand. I buy Auction/used tools for My truck I'm betting all Mfg's now a days have TTC in mind when making/designing tools. LOL Mike M.

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

If they are much cheaper, then they will be great option for diy or repurposing its parts into some projects.

[@Lukeldejong]

Would love to see more from the skill 12v line.

[@Cjarka_]

My dad has an old SKIL cordless drill an other than the battery being Ni-Cd and lasting a whole 2 minutes while doing something until it gets unusable, the drill itself is not bad at all. I might rebuild the battery with Li-ion cells so it's actually able to do some work.

[@tomn8tr]

I bought one of those new. Used it once, put the battery on the charger for the night and the battery overheated and never ran again ever.

[@stevendobbs7318]

I’d really like to see the porter cable brushless drill and impact driver tester with the kit 1.5 Ah and the 4.0Ah. I’ve enjoyed mine for a few years

[@rpavlik1]

You want a long boi, pick up the brushed Hart half inch drill driver. (And to a lesser degree, the brushed impact driver) That baby is unreasonably large and heavy.

[@pappytron]

Have you compared any of the other offerings from Harbor Freight? It would be interesting to see how Hercules, Warrior or DrillMaster rate against Bauer. I'm pretty sure I know how DrillMaster will rate, but it would still be interesting to see.

[@derekmoore1612]

I have the Bauer lineup. There's only one tool that I regret getting.. the 1/2 inch impact. No stronger than the 3/8 and 100% more awkward. With a drill, unless it's trash, I care more about ergonomics. That Bauer has plenty of beans for me.

[@959_MC]

do you think it would be possible to test the batteries themselves with the battery tester, then compare that to the measured wattage to get the efficiency of the drill (might be difficult as some efficiency loss would be in the testing motor)

[@whatyousaidbud]

I know this is picky but, can we agree that those bigger drills, milwaukee dewalt etc. are actually percussion drills and not hammer drills. A hammer drill would be a SDS, it has a physical hammer that strikes the end of the drill bit whereas a percussion drill has two discs each with raised 'bobbles' which interfere with eachother causing one disc to jump back and forth. Which is why an SDS has much more knock than a drill/driver.

[@james10739]

Some efficiency testing would be cool watts in vs watts out

[@rpavlik1]

Interesting that the Denali 4Ah and Skil 5Ah batteries had such different results. I had assumed these were just the basic 20V Skil brushed tools in weird colors. (To their credit, Amazon had discounted these to be crazy cheap in the past month) Makes me wonder if the red Skil brushed actually would differ in performance. The much fancier brushless 20V Skil had better do more... (Seeing the brushless 12V Skil I'm comparison would be nice: I've been quite happy with them so far, drill punchier than an older brushed 20V Craftsman, and impact driver almost as powerful as my brushed 20V Craftsman)

[@davingros5698]

I want to see you do the brushless heart hammer drill I recently picked it up and it's definitely more powerful than the Cobalt I run

[@danshimandle1938]

I kind of wish there was like a cheap Ryobi drill in this test too, like a real tool companies offerings at the same price as these. The P215K is the same price as these 3 for the kit

[@michaelbonar162]

Please do a 3/4” impact wrench test set! Specifically air 3/4

[@Demorthus]

Honest, genuine question here; do people in this demographic not understand that batteries by these manufacturers are over inflated past the point of just being highway robbery? That it needs to be criticized for the blatant money gouging that it is? If you were to grab 15 x 18650 for ~$5 a pop, a plastic housing, and whatever proprietary BMS that all = a 12ah (milwaukee) HO battery.... For the price of $280. That's assuming $5 per cell as a *consumer*, your dewalts, makita, etc. Of the world get them in bulk for less to the point that it wouldn't be surprising to see a "$130" 5ah battery pack costs a total of about $25-30 from start to finish. The manufacturing is so simple it just comes down to having the moulds & stickers you want to slap on them. With LG & Samsung being the ones discounting you the bulk amounts of cells. With profits only going higher regardless of 21700s, 18650s, & yes- this applies to pouch cells as well. The only difference being you're actually paying for the convenience, but not a revolutionary technology. It's as old as the flip phones they first started their lives in, funny enough.

[@joeschmoe6908]

You should try the Popoman (also sold under Teccpo) drill sold on Amazon. $70 for the kit.

[@jkish14]

I have the popoman drill for around the house, haven't had any issues with it