Educational Achievement and Intelligence Robert Plomin

Serious Science - serious-science.org

[@stevemorse108]

I got 4.0 GPA at three universities at MA level; Philosophy, Law and International Relations but have not been successful interns of a professional trajectory due to psychological vulnerabilities....its all fine and well to say that one student finds it easier to learn but beware of lack of resilience faced with stress.

[@aaftiyoDkcdicurak]

Do you remember being 2 or 3 and feeling like kid's your age were retarded.

[@yoyoma446]

There is no perfect prediction model.

[@stockstradr]

Most people don’t realize how courageous it is for a scientist speak these truths in public. This video is a heroic act because what he’s explaining goes directly against politically correct (and scientifically unfounded) opinion. People get fired all the time for explaining scientific evidence on the topics he’s covering. What about other nations approach? Look at China, where I have a second home. China takes what he’s explaining as common sense and well established by science and China runs its entire education system based on teaching to the brightest by using academic achievement as a proxy for IQ and then skimming the top smartest kids into elite schools with hyperspeed curriculum. American public schools reach dumbed down curriculum that teaches to the least achieving, so drags the One with greatest potential down to the lowest level. My kids go to USA public school and come home each day dragging an anchor which is the curriculum and homework that’s TWO TO THREE YEARS behind the content we tutor them on day.

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

100

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

@@LeksiKush he has .. Dolt

[@sufiland34]

Pool

[@proudatheist2042]

As a former special education/reading remediation teacher, that's awful for your children. Student ability and achievement varies. Schools need gifted classrooms/teachers, general education classrooms/teachers, and a variety of special education classrooms/teachers to meet student needs more effectively. It's my understanding that east Asian countries understand this fact and don't skirt around it in their schools.

[@infinitewisdom4557]

This is the most natural thing to expect... Thanks professor!

[@MauroRincon]

There is some fair criticism to prof. Plomin's views on education that have been voiced by others in the field and are certainly valid: prof. Plomin has focused on middle class families with "normal" family dynamics. Thus, the effect of trauma is not included in his assessments. Thus, trauma arising from family violence or drug abuse, gang violence in a kid's suburb or exposure to bad food and unhygienic conditions make a bit dent on the results of standarized tests that is far less explained by genetic factors.

[@josephperson7950]

100%

[@JahmekyaNo1]

100%

[@subhuman3408]

All these things are effects not causes. Scientist have already analysed these things.

[@tuele4302]

Personality is partly genetic. This is why family background is important.

[@worldobserver3515]

Your statement does not invalidate his premise. The data could be derived from individuals not affected by those factors.

[@goldiefatale]

Why does it make people so angry to realize that some people are smarter than others. How is this a revelation?

[@vidalskyociosen3326]

Majority are stupid in this world , no wonder the world is in a constant stupidity of media for our children.

[@leafster1337]

global iq is prob lower than 100, but just say its 100...i think george carlin said imagine how stupid the average person is, then half of the people on earth are stupider than that

[@boxerpete4261]

@@leafster1337 Based on your grammar, you're a fucktard.

[@parimtmnitg2965]

Because they understand the truth , but the so called smart people don'T A new definition for someone being smart will change the scenario and is the only solution to the rich-poor problem : Only that (those) person (s) are smarter than other who can understand biology and genetics to the extend that they can make other people 'smarter' By editing there basic structures/genome and turning them into whatever they want without changing there basic conciousness, like making em run as fast as bolt or making a player like cr7 or a great entrepreneur like musk or an actor like Dwayne j or as beautiful/charismatic as miss world or a person who could take a bullet and not die or just anything they could imagine ( or even like them 'smarts' who understand how the basic human conciousness cognition and motor skills work and how we can change them ) But the truth is everybody on this planet is dumb enough to not understand how human works to that extent Hence proved we are jus peice of shits suspended on the mercy of the physicality of the universe 🥴

[@todd77777772000]

@@boxerpete4261 Calm down Pete.

[@Agorante]

Plomin is six foot five. Thus is relevant because he argues that his height was largely determined the night when his parents created him. There are a couple hundred (or a couple thousand) SNPs that influence human height, We can now scan a genome for those elements and develop a count of how many of them code for greater height and how many for lesser height. Because there are many SNPs and each only has a tiny influence they follow a normal distribution. Dr, Plomin has mostly the tall variants. This technique is called a "polygenic score". It is established at the moment of conception and never changes throughout life. The same technique works with intelligence. I just finished his book last week. Fascinating stuff.

[@dinsel9691]

@HenryDavidT you have a very low educational attainment polygenetic score

[@Laocoon283]

Sounds like a long way of saying "genetics play a large role in height".

[@donluchitti]

Yea but the whole polygenic score concept is not causal despite the many times in his book he contradicts himself. It can be an overwrought concept while having some use in determining some cancers .sometimes it just feels like everything looks like a gene if all he has is a polygenic score

[@warrbarrt]

Cant wait to dive into this book!! Damn!!

[@zephyrzee9491]

A fascination with numbers at an early age is a sure sign of intelligence. The kid is fascinated with abstraction. The ability to express difficult issues in a simple way is another. Also, the ability to know what the speaker is trying to get at even before he completes the sentence. None of the these can be taught.

[@parimtmnitg2965]

A new definition for someone being smart will change the scenario and is the only solution to the rich-poor problem : Only that (those) person (s) are smarter than other who can understand biology and genetics to the extend that they can make other people 'smarter' By editing there basic structures/genome and turning them into whatever they want without changing there basic conciousness, like making em run as fast as bolt or making a player like cr7 or a great entrepreneur like musk or an actor like Dwayne j or as beautiful/charismatic as miss world or a person who could take a bullet and not die or just anything they could imagine ( or even like them 'smarts' who understand how the basic human conciousness cognition and motor skills work and how we can change them ) But the truth is everybody on this planet is dumb enough to not understand how human works to that extent Hence proved we are jus peice of shits suspended on the mercy of the physicality of the universe 🥴

[@kagaria]

@@parimtmnitg2965 and we should not feel jealousy because we are still creations of God no matter how shitty we are 🥴

[@carlosdelsol76]

u described me

[@halaldunya918]

sign of autism.

[@OGvibes-tq6zl]

I don't know how I managed to watch the video, loved it.

[@subhuman3408]

Better swallow the bitter truth than sweet lies.

[@unknown-10k]

what bitter truth ??

[@wilfordmurray]

Thank You

[@vaishalichakravarty5950]

Dr. Plomin is absolutely right. Thank you for this video.

[@naserabunasra2394]

Right about what

[@nurlanmustafayev1901]

He provides a good framework for thinking about the relationship between genetics and public policy. But handling 'polygenic score' is a big question; people can be stigmatized for having lower score in cognitive intelligence. May be the first step for this process should be 'polygenic assessment' for illnesses only rather than intelligence.

[@tuele4302]

No. People are already classified according to cognitive ability. Think of admissions to competitive universities for example.

[@denniscliff2071]

If I had, had genetic testing done before I decided to father children, and that testing revealed genes for low IQ, psychopathy, or medical problems, then I would not have become a father. Not fair to bring children into the world with those kinds of deficiencies. It is not fair to the child nor to society at large.

[@aaftiyoDkcdicurak]

If you're intelligent then the school system obviously wasn't designed for you. When I heard the teacher say everybody's special I just gave up.

[@Trendlespin]

I am trying to keep an open mind but I do think if I had been told that I would have a more difficult time in school and might not be college material I might not have even tried. I think it could be a certificate for depression and a motivator to not even reach towards more, but perhaps someone who knows they would be at the top of the scale has no sympathy for someone who might be on the lower end.

[@maxlantano9076]

Trendle Ellwood Understanding your limitations allows you to pursue a domain in which you are competent at

[@huntergatherer8972]

@@maxlantano9076 yes agree

[@huntergatherer8972]

Part of intelligence is being able to understand subtleties and Nuance. Explaining that low IQ accounts for only some of your life outcomes and not all needs to be explained. It also lets educators account for it. You can't fix a car if you don't know the problem! And if the person is not very good at all it would help them know to look into other careers.

[@worldobserver3515]

Why do you think they don't tell anyone? They don't want a bunch of people going ape-sht about not having a real shot at life.

[@mikiallen7733]

lastly do you think special intervention programs say for health and educationally ill-prepared would make up for the this part of intelligence which as you indicated is highly heritable ?

[@mikiallen7733]

secondly as per my understanding rG coefficient is only measuring the linear type of association (i.e. correlation after standardizing ) or in case of covariance then it will be just the bilinear function as studied in linear algebra but of course quantities here are RV instead of degenerate quantities , so my fear is that you are missing out on the non-linear association part of such type of correlation via other measures of non-linear association !

[@vincentandlolav5183]

Why doesn't this have millions of views?

[@jeffsmith9420]

Because it's bullshit.

[@nurbsenvi]

This is so true, my son struggles to write certain alphabet and he often write them back to front where some of his peers are writing simple daily journals. The difference at that age is huge and it's such a painful process for the teacher to conform every kid to same level.

[@Laocoon283]

And it's so fucked up to tell a kid that everybody is exactly the same and just have to believe to succeed because when they look around and that everyone is writing easier then them they are gonna confused about why. It's what happened to me. I wish people were just honest with me.

[@TheLastOutlaw289]

I am a primary school teacher currently pursuing a bachelor in education and lemme tell you it’s impossible getting special Ed students to regular learner level much less high level performance….the special Ed teachers are under constant pressure from the Principal to get these kids to learn but everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room….the kid has different kinds of genes…or needs to redirect their learning elsewhere…..humans hate the truth and the truth is learning is genetic man.

[@proudatheist2042]

​​@@TheLastOutlaw289as a former special education and reading remediation teacher, you are absolutely spot on. Thank you for what you wrote.

[@proudatheist2042]

You may want to consider talking with your son's teachers to have an IAT (Intervention Assistance Team) meeting to discuss his difficulties and what can be done about it. At the first meeting, the problems will be discussed and strategies will be brought up to try. The IAT should also mention a planned date to meet again in the future to determine if the strategies tried are working for your son. If the progress made is not sufficient, your son may be tested by a school psychologist with a full scale IQ test to determine if he qualifies for special education services. Good luck!

[@HonorOneAbove]

This is a dangerous thought. Reminds me of the movie Gattaca

[@AbhishekSingh-pp1ks]

ProbablyCouldHave. It’s the truth. Accept it.

[@HonorOneAbove]

@@AbhishekSingh-pp1ks didn't say it wasn't only that it was dangerous. If you try to enact policy or breeding based on this.

[@mantykarhu]

Watch more of his videos, he addresses that comparison to the 90's movie Gattica.

[@parimtmnitg2965]

Because they understand the truth , but the so called smart people don'T A new definition for someone being smart will change the scenario and is the only solution to the rich-poor problem : Only that (those) person (s) are smarter than other who can understand biology and genetics to the extend that they can make other people 'smarter' By editing there basic structures/genome and turning them into whatever they want without changing there basic conciousness, like making em run as fast as bolt or making a player like cr7 or a great entrepreneur like musk or an actor like Dwayne j or as beautiful/charismatic as miss world or a person who could take a bullet and not die or just anything they could imagine ( or even like them 'smarts' who understand how the basic human conciousness cognition and motor skills work and how we can change them ) But the truth is everybody on this planet is dumb enough to not understand how human works to that extent Hence proved we are jus peice of shits suspended on the mercy of the physicality of the universe 🥴

[@yeaiamtrill]

This is it chief

[@symbolbouchardnoteira8155]

who is it?

[@leafster1337]

@@symbolbouchardnoteira8155 its a joke. ppl say “this aint it, chief” when disapproving something, so this is the approving and thus unexpected version

[@Sarah-pq9dm]

I'm curious as to how they quantify the amount of intelligence some inherits. How do they determine objectively the intelligence of a parent? and wouldn't the age of the parent also affect their results?

[@Bvic3]

They compare the variation in grades between twins, false twins, brothers, half brothers, raised together or adoptive families. They cut the variation in 3 categories : hereditary, family (shared environment), unique life experiences (nonshared environment). It happens that twins have grades 80% correlated, false twins and brothers 40%, half brothers 20%. They deduce that 80% of the variation is genetic. Also, adopted siblings raised in different families are compared to siblings raised in the same family. The influence of family varies with age. At 5 years old, 50% are genetic, 50% family, 0% unique experiences. At 16 it's 70-20-10. At 20 it's 80-10-10. At 50 years old it's 80-0-20. So the longer you live, the more your unique experiences shape your intelligence, from 10% in early teenage/adulthood to 20% by the end of your life. The family influence collapses, from 50% at 5 years old to 0% in adulthood (what this means is that the correlation between IQ tests and other academic tests are the same if you have siblings raised in the same family or in a different family). Search for the nature article "Genetics and educational attainment", there is a nice graph showing correlations for different traits (height, intelligence, BMI and more).

[@gregmay8049]

@@Bvic3 Very interesting!

[@ibperson7765]

Apparently they control for the age of parents and other things. And here are more details of how, they compare differences between identical twins to the differences between non-identical twins: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4G2g5qZetWZjbs

[@mathiaswaongo47]

Impossible to determine it. Can you evaluate rain contribution to agricultural crops?

[@subhuman3408]

@@mathiaswaongo47 faulty analogy.

[@jarikinnunen1718]

If you are smart, not mean you are good your situation of life with persons who have low IQ . 20 point differences make difficulty to communicate and work together. School not help in this problem.

[@NikkiTrudelle]

What if you were really intelligent by inheritance, but grew up in a home with one or more of your immediate family members who happened to choose drugs or alcohol, over reality? So much so they were sometimes out of their rational minds, and operating on anger, or hallucinations so as to be unpredictable. It’s hard to do well on a test if your meth addicted sister is bursting into your shared bedroom at 3am to pick at the imaginary things she believes live in her face, because that’s the trip she’s on, being methed out . Much of my mental ability that could have been used at school was used up trying to navigate crazy addicts. I still went to college and graduated, but I bet I could have done a lot better in high school if I had a different environment. I can’t help but wonder how a different environment might have helped me to make it even high than I did in hire education.

[@snapman218]

It doesn't matter now, you're a KZbin commenter.

[@MrSupertwo]

I think that in the realm of understanding intelligence, it is difficult for psychologists to understand mechanical aptitude. And, I don't mean in a learned fashion, but simply that some people have a mechanical aptitude that does not translate into academics.

[@ElReyGarcia11]

Is there something to the claim that a child inherits more of the mother's IQ than the father's? Would be interested to see Dr. Plomin's answer.

[@kparker2430]

that would be a cruel god joke that i for one would consider evidence of a simmed existence or a disturbed god. What a terrifying thought.

[@rickjames1240]

I've noticed that parents who value educational achievement in their children tend to have high performing children. Of this group, teacher's seem to have the highest performing children when taking into account their intelligence, particularly when I factor in the good teacher's who have children. So maybe their is something to be learned from teacher's who are good at explanation and motivating children? Also from hearing them talk, many of the teacher's that were good one's from my judgement talked some about how they encouraged education and to some extent taught their children. Particularly good teacher's are good at motivating children and explaining concepts, two things of which from my experience not many people are good at. Anyone have similar/different observations?

[@jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104]

Perhaps teachers have good genes that their children inherit. It would be worth testing. How did you take into account their intelligence? Did you know their IQ's?

[@fartyman]

I actually believe Plomin overestimates the factor of genetics. His research contradicts so many contemporary researches on this subject. For example: we see how great the influence is of “good” parenting on later achievements of the child. Also: recent research on neuroplasticity tells us that our brains are way more adaptable and moldable than we thought before

[@verapamil07]

@@fartyman Yes, Taleb often criticise him and the whole behavioural genetics basically as pseudoscience.

[@michaels4255]

@@verapamil07 Taleb is out to lunch on this question.

[@crossroads670]

@@fartyman - or good parents have genes for good kids. And no, neuroplasticity absolutely does not show that.

[@Jacob-kb8hf]

When he claims that numeracy and literacy are heritable, I know he's full of rubbish. When I was 15 years old, I was horrible at numbers and struggled with algebra. A math teacher informed me that I was bad at math because I had gaps in knowledge and a poor foundation in mathematics. I began to relearn math pre-algebra and was amazed at how quickly my arithmetic and numeracy skills improved.

[@reer3133]

What about the confounding factor of 'cultural self-awareness as being identical twins' in their education performance? Just maybe it's relatively significant or insignificant or varies across cultural settings.

[@armoda1057]

just look at identical twins reared apart; there are almost no differences between these twins reared apart vs when they are reared together when assessed with psychometric tests.

[@slutmonke]

The difference between right and "left" Finnish isn't that *everyone* will be literate. It can't be because some people exist who won't reach a basic level of literacy no matter how much time you spend. People with IQs below 83 are so disabled that even the military won't take them because they can't perform a job that provides a positive productivity. The difference between only teaching the best, and trying to teach more people, isn't a difference of principle but of value: where do you draw the line between people who it's worth your time to help and people who aren't worth your time to help. Everyone must still draw a line somewhere.

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

How long before youtube burns this book??

[@denniscliff2071]

I am curious as to why first born children are statistically of higher IQ than later born siblings. Also, I would love to hear a talk of the benefits and disadvantages of diversity in a culture. I am thinking of how well Japan works vs. the US.

[@jameseldridge3445]

Look up cold winters theory

[@CraigCastanet]

My axiom is that if you like what you think, you're probably wrong. But that axiom is, apparently, only for adults, not most and certainly not for politicians.

[@vanessat9309]

Thanks for this positive and realistic message.

[@symbolbouchardnoteira8155]

what is it at all?

[@profil4e]

genetics has been the excuse of people for far too long; me ... I'd like to believe that there are far too many factors that come at play. what I see is a highly intelligent man making seance for him self. if what he is saying is right, humanity in general is facing a vary grim and dark future based on the believe that it's genetics that control everything. yet genetics is just as complex, as for an example quantum physics is. Rules don't apply as we would like them to, and we are left with a mess.... Truly a horrible way to look at people and think "it's genetics" .

[@geraldist88]

@@profil4e genetics 🧬 are a vital part of our life and we should be looking into them rather than trying to find answers by looking at outside the world. All the answers are coded in our genetics but is important to not to forget the external factors on one’s intellect and abilities which is as much important as our genetics, in some instances even more...

[@harbinguy1]

"People worry about labeling....."

[@dks13827]

Very true. But our low IQ teachers ( not kidding, anyone can graduate that curriculum ) will not, cannot, understand you.

[@leafster1337]

we have special education (retarded) which you are forced into, but advanced education (gifted) isn’t forced? wouldn’t it be better if it was more common to send brighter children to better schools with alike children and more competent teachers. im not talking about the same child going to the local hs with teachers which are mostly still dimwits and having (or probably not having) older and not as bright friends, but people your own age and just as smart with people guiding you which understand you...i feel like in the east coast usa they do this somewhat, but not common enough throughout the world, surely

[@worldobserver3515]

Good story, bro.

[@alienkishorekumar]

I agree, my intelligence is more oriented towards medicine/biology, I could have been a great doctor or biologist. But I became an engineer and I'm struggling.

[@user-yl2wm2gy3z]

@David Many leftist countries have far better education systems than the USA, especially if we account for ROI. Cuba, for example, has very limited resources, but an excellent educational system and produces some of the best doctors (and medical researchers of all sorts) in the world. Also, what the OC said is a valid case. The fact that he is struggling as an engineer does not necessarily mean that his IQ is low. It's just as probable that his IQ is high, as IQ is formed from a dozen traits that affect performance in variable tasks differently. P.S. Making bold, one-sided statements with a complete disregard for other possibilities correlates to low intelligence.

[@user-yl2wm2gy3z]

@David Patents and inventions require research. Research requires enormous capital, which very few countries have access to. Neither is "silly child". Also, "leftist" and "marxist" are not the same thing and, FYI, leftist countries DO produce top universities. Read up on what criteria goes into university rankings and stop drinking the Kool-Aid. EDIT: P.S. The average IQ for the USA is 98, which is on par or lower than most developed or developing leftist countries.

[@michaels4255]

@@user-yl2wm2gy3z Once you control for racial composition, US education system is on an overall par with Finland's based on international PISA tests, ie, US and Finland have the two best in the world, but Finland does not have its average scores brought down by large numbers of lower IQ ethnics.

[@anhero2377]

The Finish model has worked for a long time because they were a homogeneous White society. Funny how he mentions their system and doesn't bring this up. But then goes on to say how others can't handle the truth, which is true... Having a nuanced system that takes into account heritability and environment is only possible in a system of a single race of people. Anything else is a hodgepodge of competing tribes that "get along" until they don't. Case in point: Hait, Zimbabwe, South Africa.

[@michaels4255]

I am sure he must be aware of this, but he also knows where the line is that he is forbidden to cross--group differences, especially between racial groups. He would probably be willing to talk about it in a private conversation with a trusted confidant. I'm not sure it is even legal to talk about this in the UK these days.

[@jairson5733]

Add israel to the list

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@michaels4255BINGO! You are correct. That "line" you speak of has been radioactive since 1969.

[@mrawesome2742]

I’ll summarize his comments for anyone who didn’t understand. IQ is highly heritable and differs between the races.

[@sevatar2777]

He said nothing about races

[@JohnJohnson-qm3mr]

he didn't mention race at all

[@laurakennedy1024]

What about the culture in the home and weather or not the twins were same sex or different. Or how the maybe treated differently in the home or outside. How do the children view themselves? I come from a large family. 7 girls no brothers (no twins mostof us 2 yrs apart). I'd be interested in discovering about sibling nurture and nature differences over time as well. Each of us had trauma in life and raised in a very religious home (all of us kids left). Our father is dyslexic and most of us kids are left handed. We each were categorized as children being smart, dumb problem etc.. As women assumption of going to university was a difficult thing psychologically because of religious culture. We each took in different lessons in what or how we should be as people navigating the world filled with cognitive dissonance. Education is about empowerment and yes encourage what is coming through the individual.

[@michaels4255]

Fair questions, and you are far from the first person to think of them. I highly recommend a little book called _The Limits of Family Influence_ by David C. Rowe.

[@cecillekinnear4585]

I believe that obesity and poor nutrition plus the terriable effects of societal violence from living in a deprived neighbourhood significantly damages a childs educational options. The human brain needs a long period of development contingent on adequate social stability and support. In South Africa the national average iq might be quite low not due to genetic reasons but due to this being a really tragic society ravaged by poverty.

[@proudatheist2042]

People with low IQs are far more likely to be in the situations that you described. An intelligent person, and a population with a mean national IQ that is above average will be able to be much more likely to effectively work together, plan ahead, create new things, allocate resources, learn new material and expand upon it. The mean national IQ of different nations is not always above average or even average. Follow Intelligence researcher Brian White on Quora to learn more. Also, according to Dr. Haier, 85% of intelligence is due to genetics. There are at least 1,000 so goe nucleotide polymorphisms that code for intelligence. He also states that 65% of a school's success is due to the IQ level of the students.

[@profil4e]

A lot of things left out when speaking of intelligence. This man speaks of a very grim future, as if it's all figured out . Yet he him self is just a dust particle in the big picture. How ever he does make some good points, even thought he is looking at the subject through a magnifying glass.

[@stephanregenass2411]

I tink that te Social Content makes the Differenz.

[@MarttiSuomivuori]

See: elifesciences.org/articles/41714. The neurons of an intelligent brain have faster action potentials and longer dendrites than normal controls. If you accept that neurons create intelligence and that their structure is genetically determined, you are left with only one conclusion.

[@unknown-10k]

Intelligence is genetically determined !!! Man..even Plomin would say that environment influences Intelligence..

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@unknown-10kyes, the inference I am drawing from the OP's statement is that genetics allows for those efficient neurons with the longer dendrites.

[@islamtoghuj]

isn't intelligence mainly inherited from the mother? how can children from the same mother have considerably differing intelligence?

[@teodor-hj4lx]

Kids are not exact copies?

[@michaels4255]

Intelligence is not inherited "mainly" from the mother, although *maybe* sons inherit a little more of their intelligence through the mother than the father because he gets his only X chromosome form his mother. Not a big effect though.

[@islamtoghuj]

@@michaels4255 Thanks for the clarification, I'll look into it.

[@lisajackson1964]

You get 50 percent of your DNA from each parent, but like a deck of cards, when each sibling gets their DNA they are given different combinations. Kind of like being dealt a hand of cards, you get the same number, but different combinations. One sibling may inherit more genes that give them an edge in certain types of intelligence, while another may inherit a gene that predisposes them to be more empathetic and sensitive to other’s feelings. We are not robots and there are complexities about individuals that transcend mere measured intelligence.

[@charlesmartin1121]

For all those lamenting they are not in the highest tiers of intelligence, and feel the uber-smart look down on them, take heart. Because before too long AI is going to knock them down a peg or two. And then they will feel what you are feeling now. Sweet irony.

[@proudatheist2042]

Three years later: AI incorrectly generated images that claimed George Washington was black and that Native Americans were black. AI created an incorrect guide that falsely claimed that poisonous mushrooms were psilocybin mushrooms. Perhaps the intelligent people who created AI do not feel intelligent at the moment. 😂

[@charlesmartin1121]

@@proudatheist2042 Would you like to play a game of chess or maybe Go against a brilliant AI? I didn't think so.

[@uzairakram899]

On the personality trait "grit" he says that it is smarter to give up, because there is something else that the individual would be better at. This is contradicted by his earlier statement that intelligence is generalized as in if you are good at a particular cognitive task you are likely good at other cognitive tasks. I think it is good to have grit and try hard at thee task you have invested in, and see things to their end.

[@positivegradient]

The fact that intelligence is generalised does not mean that a person will be uniformly good or bad at different things. There will still be variation, and it would be useful to find something that you are relatively good at. Although, "grit" is definitely important to a good extent. Even with the things you have a talent for, trying hard will pay off.

[@zosimus_99]

🙃

[@gerrydarby1]

Ciara who lives in America

[@DrSylva22]

I can speak about my ethnic experiences after the Armenian genocide of 1915...The Armenian orphans had nothing after their tragedy ..lost homes, lost parents, and lands ... but gradually by their IQ started living and creating ...depending on themselves... So I do believe ... to achieve your gall your IQ will guide you, what to do ... their second generations became physicians, lawyers, artists... carrying that gene... I'm awaiting your answers...

[@emil.jansson]

Let children be children put down this measuring madness!

[@michaels4255]

Because of egalitarian ideology, we are trying to make children perform above their ability. For example, No Child Left Behind wants every child to read at or above the average level, even if he has an IQ in the 60s.

[@jensonphan]

6:07 right wing would probably say that you need to work harder. I wouldn't particularly agree with the predictability of them saying "teach the best, forget the rest"

[@michaels4255]

The left never frets about whether they have caricaturized the right fairly or accurately. All most of them know about anyone outside their leftward social bubbles are stereotypes conjured up by their fellow lefties.

[@billjames4771]

I am a right winger". Most of my fiend are also. Nobody I knows believes what Plomin said about concentrating on the best students and the heck with the rest. Plomin's stereotyping of conservatives is wrong.

[@tuele4302]

In Asia, such is the norm. Pandering to the lowest common denominator is more common in the West these days.

[@jeffsmith9420]

The problem with this guy's twin studies is that they ignore that the twins are growing up in the same social environment. Not very "scientific" . . . .

[@rlawoals0534]

people hope human have to do free dicission but it is false

[@ryancox5097]

Pooping is fun.

[@beneficialtechnology5551]

Nurture is essential - Babies die without touching. Mental health has a great effect on learning. You can crush a child in a second. School is a place where kids are bullied, due to the hierarchic structure of the school system itself. There are model schools, which show how a more pleasant experience school could be. I'm sorry, but I know a lot of right wingers who use science communication to use it against other. You missed to point out, that neglect has much more power than any genes - like Kaspar Hauser. If there there's no good schooling or any kind of support system - people will fail even with "good" genes. You just considered a very homogenous group.

[@jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104]

I wouldn't want to be a parent because children are so randomly made. There's a good chance they could be unintelligent or have a horrible personality. I wish offspring could be designed rationally because good characteristics are often obvious such as high intelligence and low dark triad personality characteristics.

[@michaeltaylor8519]

Your disgusting

[@crossroads670]

Exactly. We actually could technically do that now. You could make 10 embryos and have polygenic scores for each. Choose the most intelligent and the least anxious. If everyone did this, IQ would rise 10 points in a single generation and you could make a very high standard of living.

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@crossroads670as far as your claim about 10 points and an increased standard of living...that depends on what the base IQ of the embryos is. If the embryos had a base IQ of 70 and if scientists tweaked the embryo to have an IQ of 80, that embryo would grow in to a person who would not be able to read at a level high enough to be considered functioning.

[@lisajackson1964]

What you are describing is Eugenics. That was discarded after WWII, since it was a cornerstone of Nazism. There idea was to sterilize those they thought inferior and increase breeding of those they considered the master race. Really bad idea.

[@kevinkant6817]

Jive 🦃

[@fartyman]

His research really contradicts the scientific findings on neuroplasticity. Can someone who’s more knowledgeable on this subject please elaborate?

[@positivegradient]

The plasticity of the brain is not limitless. Experiences makes our brains change and adapt, but that does not mean there is no underlying genetic component in those changes. It's the environment which shapes us, but subject to the genetic blueprint.

[@renatafox5951]

How do you feel its contradicted exactly?

[@MarttiSuomivuori]

Actually, it does not. Rather the opposite. A recent study compared neurons acquired during brain surgery from people who tested high in IQ tests with those of normal or low achievers. The difference is quite clear. Performant brains had fewer neurons with larger dendrites with a higher level of organization. These neurons also had faster-rising action potentials. The difference in cortical thickness is due to the amount of dendritic mass. "A cellular basis of human intelligence. Higher IQ scores associate with larger dendrites, faster action potentials during neuronal activity and more efficient information tracking in pyramidal neurons of temporal cortex. The figure is based on the results from Goriounova et al. (2018)." The link to the article here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6384251/

[@positivegradient]

@@MarttiSuomivuori Thanks a lot for sharing!

[@andrealogal6593]

But unethical people are going to discriminate based on your DNA.

[@teodor-hj4lx]

You know nothing about ethics

[@crossroads670]

Lol they already do.

[@hortlockthelivingdead4676]

@@teodor-hj4lx why? what is ethics?

[@spiritualityevolutionofhum5623]

This is useless data because the interests of every single kid is different so a kid can be so interested by become a musician and other like mathematics so both are not going perform the same.

[@kathrinaprilevonhohenstauf969]

a bit boring and repetitive

[@zephyrzee9491]

He could have explained the whole rigmarole in less than half the time. He couldn't put forth what he wanted to say in a systematic and concise way.

[@kathrinaprilevonhohenstauf969]

@@zephyrzee9491 well would have been the concise way: "Eugenics"? Genomic science should be used to cure diseases not for social engineering

[@hortlockthelivingdead4676]

@@kathrinaprilevonhohenstauf969 "also" could be social engineering. Why not?

[@kathrinaprilevonhohenstauf969]

@@hortlockthelivingdead4676 because the tool is not adequate nor powered