Sermon: Baptism - As Many As The Lord Our God Shall Call

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Dr. White may well be the best exegete of the Bible in our generation. I am thankful for and blessed by his ministry!

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It would be wonderful if he did a through the Bible series, it would be so wonderful a true blessing if he would do this! True blessing he is for Christians Gods true children today , may he find mercy in his life and know how thankful we are!

[@ChristyOFaghan]

Thanks Dr. White: This was incredibly helpful and I am very glad to have been one of those who are far off.

[@duduspol6082]

the preaching was good, I liked the idea of getting a wider view of verse 39 without cutting it off. But I remember that paedobaptists connect the promise to the children with the promise of Joel 2 which is also quoted in Peter's preaching, and in doing so they demonstrate that Peter's daughters prophesied, and then this is all put in the same cake to connect the baptism to the children. I'll keep watching the other videos to see if this gets commented on as well.

[@chrisctlr]

Ephesians 2:13 (speaking of Gentiles) "But now in Christ Jesus you who once were FAR OFF have been brought near by the blood of Christ."

[@ReformedRabbit]

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This series does a good job combating them if you look for the arguments In his sermons

[@randycadkins]

This was good!

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I wouldn't hero-worship someone who would kill me for the convictions of my conscience, nor would I teach their theology. But that's just me.

[@joeh8130]

Amen

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When did James White get a sleeve tattoo?

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The Babylon Bee interviewed him a while back and joked that he must be tatted up like everyone else at Apologia and he mentioned the sleeve haha.

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So Dr White DID end up preaching Sunday morning instead of Jeff, haha!

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Hmmm, this one I may have to listen to again..

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I went there yesterday with our son and I'm hear to listen again. 😀

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[@angramp3430]

What number is this in the series????

[@JimL2883]

Hard to focus when passive parents let their unruly kids carry on loudly.

[@skippy8696]

I was baptized (or 'Christened') as a baby even though my family are not professing Christians...at least not properly. They're more like cultural Christians but don't attend a church or anything. Back then, it was more of a tradition that has started to go out of fashion lately. Even though I intend on being re-baptized by immersion, I am grateful for what my parents did.

[@amichiganblackman3200]

29:05

[@walstar20]

Not to start a huge debate war.. but I had always been on the side of no one was born gay. However, listening to part where infant baptism being used as a mechanism to negate original sin.. then is it possible to be born gay?

[@walstar20]

@Nicky Nicks but are we all not born fallen away from God?

[@Jraethyme]

Baptism isn't used to negate anything. It's use as symbolism. It is obedience to God though.

[@walstar20]

@@Jraethyme exactly. That wasnt my point.. the point was that infant baptism used as a mechanism to somehow negate original sin doesnt work.

[@Jraethyme]

@@walstar20 yes you are exactly right. There is nothing special about baptismal waters

[@jayvansickle7607]

But...didn't they have to reject Jesus (Decreed by God), in order to be forgiven of anything? Even...the sin of rejecting him?....

[@JesusPPK]

Who you talking about?

[@jayvansickle7607]

@@JesusPPK the Jews.

[@jeremybamgbade]

Minute 37, wait, acts 2 is all about the Unbelieving Jews, or even the believing Jews, until its not? Im confused.

[@geno4god]

Strong message, praise be to God. Was about to share it but on screen holder appeared the kind of proud figure of Jeff, which above all has nothing to do with this sermon. Decided not to share (((

[@jeremybamgbade]

Way to rip the context of Acts 2 away from its original context being a fuffillment of Gods promise from joel, to the church, which included infants (joel 2:16)

[@givethanks6714]

The far off ones is Gentiles! Get this correct to prove to cults (Like INC and Mormons etc) that they do not have any proof for their twisting of such verses to make them fit their 19 and 20 century exclusive "true churches". This is the clearness: Act 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off(Makran in the greek), everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” Jesus himself inside the same book shows us who this group are. Act 22:21 And he said to me, ‘Go, for I will send you far away(Makran) to the Gentiles.’” Paul witnesses to the same in Eph 2 (read it) and in v. 13 and 17 we have also Makran Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off (Makran) have been brought near by the blood of Christ Eph 2:17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off (Makran, (Gentiles)) and peace to those who were near (Jews). Eph 3:6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel. All this ties into Jesus himself, like James said, the other sheep. The other sheep in John 10 is the Gentiles! Can you appreciate the red thread here, Jesus, Peter(unknowingly even in Acts 2:39, but by the Spirit), and Paul. Preaching the one and same truth.

[@jeremybamgbade]

KZbin is too limited a space to get into how badly you are misinforming your audience concerning covenant theology.

[@timbushong4387]

Well, you sure seem to keep right on trying...

[@jeremybamgbade]

@@timbushong4387 My posts have not aimed at thoroughly or exhaustively explaining the new covenant, and what I have been primarily explaining is that White, and other baptists employ nonsensical arguments predicated on fallacies to justify their untenable position.

[@timbushong4387]

@@jeremybamgbade - "explaining" - You're failing at it, but okay. No apostle ever once baptized anyone who hadn't first believed and repented.

[@jeremybamgbade]

@@timbushong4387 Where is the repentance in Acts 16:15? Or 1Corinthians 1:14? All we know from THESE verses, is that the head of household repented, and the house hold was baptized (sorta like Exodus 12:48 eh?) . You have to read into those instances “they all professed beforehand”. And if you relied on the Phillipian jailor narrative, you’d be guilty of the inductive fallacy otherwise known as the “fallacy of composition” assuming that what was true in one case, must be true of all. Consider, that all baptisms of adults in the NT are of converts. Well, that principle, in which adults receive the sign of the covenant upon a profession of faith - isn’t new. In the Old covenant (which baptists conflate with the Abrahamic) gentile converts received Circumcision (which didn’t come from moses but the patriarchs, PLURAL /John7:22) which was the sign that signaled “righteousness” with respect to the man converted and consequently Circumcised. (as I demonstrated in my long comment elsewhere on this video). This being the case, the baptist can ascertain nothing from these “believers baptism” passages that answers or even tacitly addresses the question as to what should be done with the children of baptized converts. We paedos argue, that since the sign of conversion was applied to converts’ children under the old covenant (which is just a different administration of the covenant of grace, grounded in the Abrahamic covenant) and since there is no explicit prohibition of applying the new covenant sign of conversion to believers’ children, it is consistent to stick with the already established principle, namely that Children of believers are to be regarded as members of the visible church, and should receive the sign that makes them so. Baptists who argue that the “church” started in acts 2 are just plain wrong. Just pick up the Septuagint, where the Hebrew word translated “assembly” is translated “ekklessia” which in our english NT bibles is translated as “church”. Whether it’s the old covenant or new, the visible church has always been made up of professing Christians. And, no, bringing up Jeremiah 31:31-34 and the New covenant will not help your case, because if your baptist application of those verses were true, then some of these promises would have to be judged as failed prophecies. Because clearly, the promise includes things like promising that we would no more teach our neighbor saying “know the Lord” which can’t be the case NOW seeing that we are COMMANDED to EXHORT one another DAILY (Heb 3:13). The other promises like “I will be their God” was a promise enjoyed by the elect of the OT and thus it is nothing new. Whether we consider individuals like Noah, enoch, Abraham, or CORPORATE revivals as is seen in Nehemiah 8-9, “I will be their God” again, is a promise that was already enjoyed by the elect. The baptists interpretation of Jer 31 cant account for the “already not yet” and the fact that what is contrasted in Jeremiah 31 ISNT the Abrahamic covenant and the new, but the Mosaic covenant and the new -as it can never be said that yahweh didn’t care for the “fathers” as in the patriarchs. Clearly its the “fathers” who came out of Egypt as in that first generation who did not enter the promised land (Heb4:2) who yahweh was sore displeased with and “cared not” for. What about “I will forgive their iniquity”? God forgave the iniquity of saints that were under the Old covenant and the iniquity of saints that preceded the old covenant. Enoch and Noah were justified by faith alone. Abraham quite obviously was justified by faith. Isaiahs sins were forgiven (Isaiah 6) Joshua the high priests sins were taken away (zech3) Paul quotes david as David speaking in the present tense with respect to himself, and the man to whom “God imputes no iniquity” (Compare Romans 4:8 to Psalm 32:1-2). The saints of old were able to have their sins forgiven because although The actualization of Jesus’s sacrifice was yet future, he is said to be slain “from the foundation of the world” (Rev13:8). So in all this, baptists sorely misapply the meaning of the New Covenant promises in Jeremiah 31. Back to Circumcision, if you attempted to minimize the role of circumcision to the mosaic covenant, or if you desired to make the mosaic covenant exhaustive of everything Circumcision pointed to, you would be guilty of a categorical fallacy. Circumcision preceded Moses and the Mosaic covenant. We are not told in Gen 17, that Circumcision was given to distinguish Abrahams physical seed from “surrounding nations” (Israel didn’t exist yet) nor did it have anything to do with the Levitical priesthood and its attendant ordinances that wouldn’t come for another half millennium. And since paul calls the Abrahamic covenant “the gospel” (Gal3:8) and since the sign of that covenant was circumcision (Acts7:8) it follows that circumcision was a sign of the Gospel. Thus, the onus is on the baptist to prove that the LATER (as in almost 500 yrs later) tying together of the mosaic covenant to Circumcision-superseded or eradicated circumcisions primary and original significance. In short, all of the commonly adduced “mosaic covenant arguments” for rejecting circumcision as being a sign of the gospel (as baptism is now) fall to the ground, because the mosaic covenant is irrelevant with respect to the rites origination and Spiritual significance being from the Abrahamic covenant - which the mosaic covenant could in no way disannul (Gal3:16-18). I have seen no baptist deal with this argument because….well …Because they really can’t. Also, you are making the same error that James White makes, one that is excusable for you, but not so excusable for him. Being a seminarian, he ought to know better than to use narratives, as axiomatic predication for his arguments, over and against didactic teachings that are clearly laid down. In short, he is doing theology backwards when he teaches on baptism. How about instead of responding to THIS thread, you respond to the OTHER thread where I systematically deal with Whites arguments. You can there show me where I have erred, either with respect to the cogency of my argument, or the validity of my premises.

[@jeremybamgbade]

@@timbushong4387 I anticipate your response!

[@berglen100]

You cause everything you believe, you do it to yourself! In you not outside that most look for and wait, you better say I AM. Imagination is God in you, you will Wake and stop looking outside yourself, the Bible is not secular history. No body is Actually lost like blind Christians think there is, you save yourself by grasping what you were before creation! Jesus was a pattern that wakes you in the skull not womb. Or stay blind like John Baptist.

[@berglen100]

Paul is not recorded in any works of the first century outside of the Bible. So, you see, Paul is no more a person than Jesus Christ, Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob. These are simply names of eternal states of consciousness; and when you reach the state of Paul, the mystery of Jesus Christ will unfold within you and you will be set free

[@douglasmcnay644]

Gnostic?

[@ralfvidakovics9114]

@@douglasmcnay644 exactly

[@kukakbear5618]

39:42 James is reading Paul's message that was still a secret hid in God (no distinction between Jew and gentile)...BACK into early Acts. Oops...boo boo

[@brucemercerblamelessshamel3104]

so Isaiah, Hosea,Luke 24, & Acts 1:8, to cite a few were unknown?

[@jeremybamgbade]

Literally no (good) credo baptist uses Acts 2:39 the way White would have his listeners think. If one wants a truly reformed and comprehensive view of baptism, please read jv feskos book, Water Word, Spirit, the book demolishes baptists arguments. People if you got babies Baptize them!!!!

[@Tayman47]

where in the Bible does it say to baptize infants? what does baptizing them do?

[@jeremybamgbade]

@@Tayman47 We infer infant baptism from the continuing validity of the Abrahamic covenant (Acts 3:25), and household baptisms of converted persons which are analogous to household circumcsisons of converted persons in the OT (see Abraham in Gen 17 and the proselytes mentioned in Ex12:38/48)

[@Tayman47]

@@jeremybamgbade so you agree the baptism doesn't save them?

[@jeremybamgbade]

@@Tayman47 correct.

[@Tayman47]

@@jeremybamgbadeso then you would agree baptizing an infant doesn’t mean that they will be part of the covenant nor does it mean they will for sure get saved?

[@marteld2108]

If God “predestined” you from all eternity to be saved you dont need anything else including Baptism. Calvinism is laughable.

[@JesusPPK]

@MARTEL D how do you view God being Omni-(whatever it may be ) over his creation? Doesn't he have the rights over the clay since he's the potter?

[@thegospelmessenger1corinth634]

@@JesusPPK We are all sinners and fall short in God his glory - how to be saved - this is the gospel of salvation - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 by trusting and believing the gospel of salvation you are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise till the day of redemption and nothing can pluck you out of the Father his hand - only by the shed blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ we can be washed and cleansed from all of our unrighteousness - eternal security is a free gift - it's a promise and God Almighty cannot lie!!! Have a blessed day! This is the gospel of salvation - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 Witnesses of Christ's resurrection. 1) Moreover,brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2) ''By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. IT IS FINISHED... Paid in Full !!! But, You Must BELIEVE IT - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV. Jesus' death was infinite and eternal in value, paying the full price for sin (1 John 2:2). God promises that anyone who believes in Jesus, trusting Him alone as the Savior, will not go to hell! Verses about eternal security And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. John 10:28-30 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 1 John 5:11 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1 John 5:13 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36 KJV - Bible verses about Jesus is God John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 10:30 - I and my Father are one. Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Evangelism is not a fish on your car, a cross around your neck, or even your testimony - it is proclaiming the good news about Jesus Christ - the gospel of salvation - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 - verses 1-4

[@oracleoftroy]

Non-sequitur. If you have predestined your next vacation to be in France, does it follow that you don't need to do anything else; like schedule time off, reserve plane tickets, book a hotel, actually fly there, etc? No of course not. You have to follow through with that choice and fulfill the predestination. Being saved isn't just God putting a checkmark next to our names and otherwise leaving us exactly the same, but is a whole process God does for his people, and it includes promises given in covenant signs to his people.

[@abecarranza7585]

Do you have anything more intelligent to say?

[@sandman9390]

Well, IF you are predestined, then you are CREATED unto Good Works(Ephesians 2:10) & HIS Sheep not only hear His Voice but follow, so If Jesus told them to, then they desire to obey Him 😉👍