Serral vs Clem MINE OUT this huge map! (StarCraft 2)

[@kanzhang2659]

45:51 look at mini map that MVP siege tank started marching to new battle field and 46:51 he showed up in the middle of the screen, without even been repaired, sieged up to protect the last mineral in the world. What a hero. Thank god he lives to the end of the war. He deserves a golden medal

[@-zawzaw-8897]

damn that tank is a hero

[@magicalchords5145]

Petition for lowko to check the replay and tell us how many kills does he got!

[@andresv.9365]

Tank giga chad. Even if all it's kills were zerglings, that tank had a value of more than 3000 minerals.

[@aokiji9468]

I must insist!@@magicalchords5145

[@kanzhang2659]

@@andresv.9365 27:36 he got an ultralisk

[@tiongkiong]

7k mmr bar code zerg is like hiding your face by covering your ear

[@HaploBartow]

Like the mask in Green Lantern: "jeez Hal, you think I won't recognize you because I can't see your cheekbones?!"

[@teddanville6996]

Or like Superman wearing a glasses to become Clark Kent, which works by the way. Henry Cavill did an experiment where he wear a superman shirt and put on glasses and walk around in times square new york and nobody notice him.

[@xilinwei5890]

lmao😂😂😂

[@nmgaro2156]

Caster: this is not an event or tournament game, so players wont take it that seriously. Serral: takes 5 minutes after the last fight to gg out knowing he would no win and lose a few mmr

[@homonihil823]

I think it turns into valuable practise when the game goes this far because they so seldom do. But yeah, Serral's been slower to gg anyway after the drop against Ragnarok.

[@milesallen1605]

FINAL KILL COUNT ON THE TAAAANK?!?! WE NEED TO KNOWWWW!!

[@Jdog-tt8qe]

Thanks for all the great videos!

[@vitorh3568]

that Siege Tank... truly MVP.

[@snagsTS]

Best part is that they survived 😂

[@zycar_diy]

@@snagsTS @LowkoTV how much kills at the end ?!

[@Mr.YETI.Cinematic]

Confirmed over 130

[@fireeye6762]

The fact that this game was fully action and no real stall wars like you'd see with protoss in games this long is insanely cool. Also ghosts op

[@danc6167]

The minerals are gone but there's plenty of rocks!

[@thomasgrubert7819]

Seems clear that the nerf to infestors means even serral now struggles to close out against ghosts.

[@nmgaro2156]

Soon another player will find the solution, and Serral will copy it. He does not create, he copy and improve (that is nothing wrong). Played the game for almost his entire life, and even copied the Erik's build, not long ago

[@sevenpolar3483]

yeah, Serral traded so badly into Clem at the end. I don't think the nerf is the worst thing since it was silly watching Serral micro 3 infestors to try and get fungal hits before every fight. But we now risk a situation where both sides don't want to engage with the other in the late game, like how Airtoss use to be.

[@HaploBartow]

@@nmgaro2156 Serral doesn't just copy solutions, he arguably perfects them, too. He may not be the most creative player, but he certainly has the cleanest execution. Which should be even further vindication for EriK, to see that the GOAT took his opener strategy, used it basically exclusively for the better part of a year, and found great success w/ it, so much that others are starting to try it out now, even though Serral has mostly stopped using it.

[@HaploBartow]

Unpopular opinion time, as a casual Terran player but avid replay/cast watcher, I have thought for roughly 2 years now that ghosts need to be nerfed strongly. Atm I think reducing their max range for Steady Targeting down to 11 or at least close to it is needed. Having 11 sight but being able to complete a snipe up to 13.5 range. I also think it should be reduced to 100dmg (+40 vs Psionic).

[@loucahoornaert6013]

this is pre patch my guy

[@fireshark8637]

Game of the year ❌ Siege tank of the year✅

[@kenedos7421]

Ghosts can: - Insta half kill big chunk of protoss army (EMP shields) - Snipe heavily armored bio units like Ultras - Deal extra damage to lightly armored units with basic attack - Force uproot on multiple spores/spines or at least force out a lot of APM from oponent (Nukes) - Zone out enemy armies (Nukes) - Detect invisible enemies (EMP) - Basically insta kill archons (EMP) - Be healed and picked up easily by medivacs - Outrun banes without speed outside creep (lol) - Shoot air - Cloak ??? Seriously, it's the only spellcaster in game with FOUR great abilities AND a good basic attack

[@NickCombs]

The move speed of all things seems the most egregious. Compared to high tempies and festors.

[@clee89]

i prefer ghosts to the mass raven seeker missile days tbh

[@Krasses]

I think you need five banes to kill one

[@FlokiTech]

Half your list is just filler to make it look long lmao

[@nmgaro2156]

​@@Krassesi think, this should be checked, both with +3,+3, it requieres 6

[@Tillallare1]

Love watching the two best sc2 players facing off! Always a pleasure.

[@alexandreroudaut3418]

You did use "faux-pas" correctly Lowko :)

[@Madosatoshist]

17:20 Watching Lowko I've been waiting for a zerg player to realize this for years.

[@justinsaunders110]

The downside is that the drones are far more exposed

[@bloodydove5718]

@@justinsaunders110 Decent scouting and a nydus is really good protection. Things like this, overlord poop, and overseer contamination are things I've always wondered why we dont see more of

[@LorisEnsatzuken]

@@bloodydove5718 Nydus cost a drone + money for the worms and it's lair tech, overlord poop puts them in bad spots for scouting and higher chance to see them killed (supply blocks), contamination is cause overseer energy replenish extremely slow (you get maybe one cast at best and it's easy to kill the overseer going for it most of the times).

[@bloodydove5718]

@@LorisEnsatzuken Drone + a bit of money to leech resources away from the enemy = a solid move. Overlord poop puts them in a bad spot for scouting... but do you use All your overlords for scouting All the time? How often do you have overseers who are just banking energy that could be spent doing something. And if you're using that overseer to flyby scout, you might as well mess with their production or research; solid way to mess up their timing attacks or hamper their ability to defend against yours

[@chengcao418]

Lowko you can ask winter for the observer interface that shows total mined (works on any replay), or just count the resources lost + building+ unit values

[@jackMeought-fr8vl]

I don't even play the game anymore, but I don't see why ghosts don't get a nerf.

[@gurkankaraali9608]

Tanks have been weakened and their range has been reduced. Is the ghost next? I think you would all be relieved if they removed Terran completely.

[@nmgaro2156]

Probably because are the only unit that terrans have to survive on late game. And even requiere a lot of babysittig then and being extremly quick and precise with the micro

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@nmgaro2156 oh boohoo TERRANS have to micro A SINGLE UNIT GROUP in the late game?

[@IsaacFNghost]

@@jesusbarrera6916Terrans are screwed if ghosts are nerfed lol. You can lose them all in an instant if banelings land and that’s game. People have these preconceived notions that it’s so easy until you try to use them yourself

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@IsaacFNghost yeah you can lose your 10 ghosts in an instant if 30 banelings hit... wow it's like that is the counter to mass bio AND IT STILL TAKES 3 BANES, one of the most inefficient units in the game

[@BossChibster]

Asking for losing replays isnt rude, if you stopped reynor wouldnt be featured in your channel anymore

[@SaarlaneKretiin]

jesus christ...

[@calvyoel1515]

Diick lol

[@Synthetic_geth]

murdered with words

[@kevincolwell3066]

This is a little spicy

[@HaploBartow]

Ouch.... but Reynor 3-0'd Clem in a championship just a few days ago.

[@Nicator_]

Thank you Clem for winning the game and ensuring that Lowko did not commit a Starcraft 2 faux-pas!

[@cjjuszczak]

holy shit o.O What a game, a meaty, long, rollercoaster, not-a-moment-of-boredom, 1st half looks like a certain win for Seral ... then a ridiculous comeback from Clem... WOW !

[@hivecasts]

11:22 43 blue workers gone down :D. Yet another Lowko moment

[@Pyriin]

That tank!!! Sgt Chadhammer has graced us with his presence!!

[@asimpletouch]

That was the best sc2 game I've ever. Props to the commentator and the players. I thoroughly enjoyed that thx.

[@peterwoitinas7130]

❤Very nice! Thx so much! You always do such an amazing, entertaining and professional job paired with wit and humour, this time not giving away the winner beforehand!

[@codegeass7162]

I was on the edge of my seat. I love Serral, tough game!!!

[@Chuckerson100]

Ghosts: the most overpowered unit in SC2

[@gurkankaraali9608]

Isn't it? There should only be marines left on Terran and then you'll all be happy, right?

[@josephtsai1003]

@@gurkankaraali9608Slippery slope fallacy. Stating ghosts are powerful is absolutely not equivalent to saying that Terran should only have marines. Think twice before you speak

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

I would say the Zerg Queens are more broken.

[@emilybjoerk]

I mean Ghost have high damage, long range, anti air, cloaking and fast movement. Queens are much slower, lower damage, shorter range and no cloaking.

[@cosbusta]

@@HandsomeGamerGuy The queens are strong, which is why they are also given obvious weaknesses. The problem with ghosts is that they don't really have a weakness. They are strong at everything and are not hard countered by anything really. Espeically against zerg, they pretty much counter all late-game units. An infestor nerf is yet another ghost buff since it's the only unit that can do anything against them and even then it requires a great deal of setup and luck.

[@ProfessorPicke]

i feel like seral played so so well, no idea how he wasn't more cost efficient.

[@Amoeby]

Just terran things.

[@anthonylaine6111]

25min et 48 seconde ! Le thank le plus puissant et rentable de l'histoire de StarCraft 2 😱😱❤️

[@ThanatosHellfire]

AHH I was hoping Lowko was gonna check if the Master Tank was still alive, I think he still was but maybe brought back to the main army at the end. I wonder what his final kill count was.

[@snagsTS]

I think, or rather choose to believe, its the one sitting in the grass patch just south of the extractor at the end.

[@elricdotah]

He changed position to the right side to protect the last terran base that was mining and didn't kill anything more afaik, so 130 and alive at the end of the game.

[@topanteon]

6 years I have not played nor followed SC2. I watched this video and remembered why.

[@tomas539]

SPOILER SHIELD

[@DENIS_Biomech]

Thankfully the correct race won 👍🏆 👏

[@Tillallare1]

Tysm ❤

[@leonardol8158]

There were a lot of nuances in this match, it definitely is Serral playing.

[@dbznappa]

Holy crap there were a lot of funny comments in this. The SCV enjoying the last sunset on his face omg hahahahahaha

[@arn_ice]

Serral vs Clem, heck Clem also vs many (and I could list bunch of fun top players ) is stuff I'll always have a fun time seeing. Whoever wins.

[@gadsby]

Field Marshal Chad was definitely driving that siege tank.

[@bentencho]

Finally, a map where the players actually mines out. So annoying when there are games when the players "run out" of resources, yet there are patches are minerals which combined to like 1000 or something.

[@Logic9Pro]

Amazing cast, Lowko!

[@denteres]

The most insane game i have ever seen!!!!

[@ainzooulgown3804]

would like to know how much kills the tank had in the end and how log it was alive

[@ottoback5375]

i feel like serral has a case for harstems IODIS series here

[@ghosthamster6521]

Infester nerf is entirely just. Specifically reducing the random factor to make the infester more consistent should definitely be done. Think back to when they nerfed lurker and widow mine burrow/unburrow times after the upgrade. 0.31 seconds was deemed too fast to react to so they made it ~0.5. This infester nerf should have already been done. It's entirely unreasonable that they could unburrow at a speed deemed impossible to react to a few years ago.

[@TK_Taken1608]

Damn terran ghosts are just the universal fuck you unit arent they?

[@venkatchait007]

it's mainly that snipe is "free" damage, same problem infestor used to have with fungal.

[@thatonedavid123]

Lowko scanner noises could be a shirt.

[@barryboucher4587]

Yes lokow, you did use "faux pas" correctly. I like it so much when I hear some french in a foreigner language sentence.

[@keremcantarhan]

I feel like Serral maybe should have went back to zerglings instead of making so many queens. Clem had only a few tanks left at that point and most of his army was vikings, ghosts and thors which are all good against broods and weak against zerglings. Also, bring back infested terran!

[@geuros]

Ghosts are really really really strong against lings, coming from a Terran

[@HaploBartow]

I'm surprised Serral opted to go so heavy on broods when there was still so much air in Clem's army. He basically got rid of all his anti-air to make more... slow anti-ground units.

[@keremcantarhan]

@@geurosOn an individual level, yes. But lings/banes can easily overwhelm ghosts with sheer numbers.

[@soligaming5729]

@@geuros ling easily overwhelm ghost.

[@BenderCane]

Highly reccomend commentary from WinterStarcraft super entertaining

[@AndrewAnderson-bx8uf]

A Starcraft "Faux Pas" lol Good stuff Lowko

[@Raziel1984]

why is there not a Lowko sound for the snipe and the scan in the sound pack .... or is there?

[@2Sor2Fig]

Respect to Clem for passing the replay on anyway. There's no shame in his game.

[@jacoballey21]

Lol Serral using a barcode at 7.1k..like who could that be??

[@RYRY_MURPHY]

Thank you Simon!

[@schippes24]

18:40.. i always thought about that and wondered why people wont do this? especially zerg can do this quite easily if the opposing player give them the wiggle-room for that. now i'm not master strategist, so i assumed Pros already thought about that as well and decided it's not worth doing so. i always love seeing the nydus used like in sc1.. it's basicly a tunnel network

[@princetemujjin]

Give that Tank medal and an early retirement. Lol 😂😂🎉

[@DrMJJr]

I'm just DYING @ 24:47 lmao

[@bphenry]

Caster: I didn’t think it was possible for Terran to win with less minerals. Me: Oh look, the first ghost. Zerg is dead.

[@ihavegymnastics]

I appreciate the, Clem lifestyle.

[@soywhitelie2976]

that hero siege tank is a war veteran

[@aNugget100]

OOOOOOOOOOOOf what a throw - 45:00 - I reckon serral wins that last fight if his vipers and corruptors were there. They come in way too late after the the BL's were wiped. The medivacs the ghosts escaped in were like 1/5hp - parasitic bombs wipe. excellent game tho

[@nooonanoonung6237]

-25 mmr, rip

[@zapoyou2]

What an absolute banger of a game

[@Harpold]

Is it just me or does the medivac at 24:23 rescue 4 ghosts and then drop them into nirvana

[@Tesswrench111]

Nice of lambo to share the replay

[@SuperG0alie]

What could Serral have done better towards the end? I am thinking more Viper abducts and bombs on air units, slowly breaking down terran army.

[@matiashamalainen7965]

That kind of turtle strategy seems to leave the heart extremely vulnerable. A couple of ultras and lings could probably destroy all of the infrastructure while the ghosts are defending either of the perimeters.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

what infrastructure? everything on the map now is useless and all orbital will just liftoff or go to the main base

[@pamsp]

ghosts are insanely powerful, the best caster, amazing combat unit, counters everything and cheaper than the other casters

[@iceteazen]

that is why they are special units in the story

[@geuros]

They're worse than vipers

[@HaploBartow]

@@geurosI'm not so sure. They have the same amount of offensive spells, can cloak with their 4th spell, cost less overall and importantly cost less gas, *and* they have a regular attack which can attack both ground and air units.

[@MrChocobo12]

The things is ghost is the only unit Terran have to deal with late game. The mech army is ridiculous and marine is not really a option in late game.

[@iceteazen]

@@geuros nah ghost arw better high dmg, cloak, amp ang tactical nukes

[@thegoodthebadandtheugly579]

Lowko, what’s up with looking at upgrades while there’s multiple battles going on 😀

[@titimtitim9465]

3:00 yes you used it right

[@kindlin]

I was even thinking the word before he said it, so it was perfect.

[@Qaos2]

Dark experiments mid tournament 😂

[@user-nh2bf4to7g]

Games like this make me think that Zerg needs a little extra in the ultra late-game. Maybe add a "hero" unit like the Mothership: the Leviathan, which effectively has the cost and attack stats of a Mothership, but within a radius of itself say 16-20 supply of Zerg units don't count towards the supply cost, effectively letting Zerg field slightly larger armies in the ultra-late game?

[@Cwm02]

I find the biggest problem with late game zerg is you either attack ground or air, there's no units that do both. If you make too many broods and they make vikings, you lose. if you have too many corruptors, ghosts can snipe all your broods. That and ultras are useless.

[@andrunouchi]

It won't matter, Ghosts will just snipe them out of the sky 😂

[@celestrius9197]

If every kill on that siege tank was a zergling at the time of 122 kills thats 3050 minerals for one tank

[@PhoenixCrown]

I think there is 1,500 minerals per field, so X 8 = 12,000 minerals per base, so just think of that number in the resources lost equation. (Could do same with gas.)

[@PhoenixCrown]

So at the end of the game, Serral had lost 28K more than Clem. That's more than 2 bases worth of minerals, which his roughly what Serral had.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

THEY QUEUED AGAINST EACH OTHER?!

[@maikbaumann1250]

24:51 i think lowko was to close to the glue again

[@brianmendelson1736]

What was the final count on that one tank? Also, this is proof that ghosts need to be nerfed

[@nmgaro2156]

Clem apm and micro needs the nerf. How many players could do what he did?

[@Y0G0FU]

Ghost are just ridicilous...

[@TheNesdsachannel]

I am no master but it seems like the Zerg needs to put up enough to threaten the front line while breaking the back with Zerglings right?

[@Laryon720]

2:50 ''faux pas'' is 2 words meaning wrong/false step and yes you did use it correctly

[@marionicolais3024]

That was epic!

[@En-Jon-eer]

I think it's fair to nerf the ghost IF you give back the Goliath with range upgrade and the Valkyries (both brood war units) to Terran.

[@Dallows65]

... Okay, I'm curious. Let's just assume that the Goliath and Valkyrie are actually balanced to fit into starcraft 2 - why the hell is Terran owed *two new units* as compensation for Ghost getting a hypothetical nerf?

[@MrChocobo12]

@@Dallows65 Because Terran have nothing else than the ghost to deal with late game against zerg or protoss. Yes he look very strong in this game from Clem but how many player manage the ghost that well ? If you nerf the ghost, Terran (pro player) have absolutly no way to win a late game. Just imagine Terran dealing with any late game unit of zerg ou protoss without ghost. It's impossible.

[@Dallows65]

@@MrChocobo12 You’re literally saying that if Ghosts get nerfed in any way that Terran deserves two new units as compensation… Not ‘the ghost gets removed’, just *any* sort of nerf… Do you realize how absurd that kind of a line is? Ghosts are due for a nerf and Terran shouldn’t get any compensation for it.

[@ruslanjonson7502]

They are not humans. :) Really another level

[@eldra-Hey]

Ultramutalingly we wanna go ultra ling bane - 11:40

[@NikksTV]

Snipe has way to much range

[@Metlosh400]

Incredibly good game!

[@TheMasterhomaster]

Ghosts are OP.

[@tomaszjanik7887]

Lowko you're so funny I will smash that like button!!!

[@weswesriddd]

47:28 10 scvs in that pf lol

[@thdjjfsfh]

It's like he's playing with a 10-supply handicap.

[@robert-asdf]

nydus workers.. i see, i see.. ✍ And a volume slider for scans! 🤣 brilliant! seeing multiple nukes come into play is cool to see every now and then. you usually see one shortly followed by gg. Also why does 40:15 remind me of gaza strip? - battles can be fought in so many other places on the globe but yet the news can't stop talking about it and there's been pow exchanges and stalemates in that same place for ages.

[@TimiOfDaVoid]

I don't understand why Clem didn't train marauders to mix into his bio squads after seeing so many roaches in the first game... the cyclones and tanks made sense, but marauders seem to be more cost effective in that situation

[@wanaan]

Just imagine what Protoss can do in this kind of situation? Keel over and die, mostly. They have no answer to Zerg tech the way Terran does.

[@josephfield6969]

Tempest carrier high Templar oracle archon immortal probably would be good

[@icecream6256]

The infester buff kinda stings. We should encourage more higher level plays of infesters instead of direct engagement that we often see. It only affect that guy but it's always cool to have variety

[@arvinjancruz5175]

great game!

[@Lotte-st]

im wondering why zerg proplayer when they have 5-10k stock or more resource than the opponenent, why they dont just build like extra 5 or more lair to stock those larva, seen plenty times they got so much money but lost because no more larva to train more unit in time.

[@vaidasalonderis5117]

Most insane game

[@uxerthekus]

Zerg: a race that can gather/fuck up as many resources as it wants and still be competitive throughout the game. Terran: a race that can manage with fewer resources for long time and remain competitive throughout the game. Protoss: a race that often struggles to survive beyond the 15-minute mark under similar conditions in this match. What a match !! One of my fav match this year !!

[@SaltyDoge]

for the greater good 36:43

[@StarryTemplar]

I think Terran should just build MASSIVE BUNKERS for Marine and Ghost on the way to attack or defense, It don't cost much and can be cancel

[@ab-rw9jk]

Learning French with Lowko

[@Zikuth]

Small correction, Hero is right now better against Zerg in Aligulac than Clem

[@Sotman.]

Serral losing directly after being an untouchable god in IEM shows how he relaxed. Hopefully he will he even worse next IEM so my glorious fabulous king Maru can take one.

[@N0noy1989]

Serral might be in Finnish military service this year.

[@VSastrocompasss]

We need a ffa with 4 min maps 4 cornor and rules controlling fog of war

[@Keln02]

Clem needs to be put in charge of the French economy

[@robertarrowood3651]

How many kills did that tank get in the end?