Servants of Two Masters | SHOGUN [1x2] (REACTION)

[@JamieLeaFL]

The queen Blackthorn refers to is Elizabeth I. This is at the end of her reign.

[@MiLikesVids]

The Letters of Marque came from the Dutch so Blackthorn's ship is acting as a mercenary warship for the Dutch who are in the middle of their own rebellion to throw off Spanish rule over their country. The English had 12 years before fought off the Spanish Armada which was going to depose Elizabeth I. So there is a lot of Protestant vs Catholic politics going on in this scene. The flux is dysentery. A serious problem not understood in Blackthorn's time but they were aware aware of the correlation between public common water use like communal baths or water in crowded areas being connected to disease so people might avoid things like baths altogether. Especially if they lived in cities or tight communal spaces like a ship or army camp.

[@spccolts]

The term your looking for is "Privateer." The Letters of Marque authorizes Blackthorn's ship to attack Portuguese and Spanish ships during war. So he is a legalize pirate.

[@MiLikesVids]

@@spccolts That's not accurate, privateers have limits on what they are allowed to do, take as prizes, conduct under battle all sorts of things since they are supposed to be legitimate soldiers. Pirates are simply thieves.

[@KolyoSofiata]

@@MiLikesVids Yes, they have a few rules and limits and are permitted do it by a government, hence why the guy said "legalized" pirates. That's exactly what privateers are. It's a country giving a private vessel the right to steal from their enemies, they are "simply thieves" with permission from someone. They aren't "legitimate soldiers", the marines in the navy are.

[@MiLikesVids]

@@KolyoSofiata No.

[@kendemyx9]

Maria is probably Mariko's Christian name. Spanish Catholic colonisers gave us Christian names when they took over our country, the Philippines. I imagine thats what the Portuguese are also doing; replacing Japanese names with Christian names. Protestants believe that the Catholic church is the original Christian religion but has been corrupted over time. Also, the head of the Catholic church is the Pope, whereas the heads of the English protestant church is the King/Queen and the Archbishop of Canterbury. Someone correct me if I got this wrong hahaha

[@markcruz359]

Wouldn't archbishops technically also answer to the Pope

[@RandalReid]

@@markcruz359There's a distinction between the Catholic archbishops and the Protestant archbishops. It's more nuanced historically but I'm not an expert on the subject. Even the Eastern Orthodoxy have their archbishops.

[@roymerritt348]

Protestants are mostly descendants of the Catholic Church. Pentecostals believe the Catholic Church is the harlot forewarned in the book of Revelation.

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

Well the head of the church of england is the reigning monarch. And He/she does not answer to the pope. That was the whole point Henry 8th changed the whole thing. Since he couldn't remarry whoever he wanted to because they were still Catholic. btw the term "Protestant" is any Christian religion that isn't Catholic. There are many now.

[@林清英-d6k]

そんな事はない、鞠子、（まり子）という名は日本人でも珍しくない、真理子、麻里子、満里子、万里子、磨理子、、、 マリコにはいろいろ漢字の名があります😅😅😅🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

[@atomictsarina4378]

In Japan, ppl believed that the Emperor was a descendant of Amaterasu, a goddess of the sun, and he had this divine element in him. The Emperor was, in theory, the most important person in Japan but in real life, he held no power. But he could have done one thing, that no other could do: he could grant the title of the Shogun (that held all the power). Taking into consideration that receiving this title from the Emperor is like being anointed by the gods, being a descendant of the old bloodline of the Shoguns is a big deal. Especially since no other Toranaga rival has such a position. The bloodline is in this situation really important factor.

[@Gtt333]

Shogun is like Napoleon in France. Emperor was just a symbol in this era.

[@falaramal3979]

I believe that toranaga is based of Tokugawa Ieyasu the real life first ruler of the whole of Japan

[@atomictsarina4378]

@@falaramal3979 every character in this show is based on real-life person/peaople

[@rhianor]

They speak English because its easier for the audience, if this was an 100% correct the show would be fully subtitled, since only Portuguese, Japanese and Dutch were spoken. John is the only english in the show, so unless he was inner speaking, he wouldn't use english. Also the treaty refered in the episode was real, and it was called Treaty of Tordesillas, signed in Spain, on 7 June 1494, and dividing the world between Portugal and Spain. During this period Portugal, controled most of the African and Asian ports, and they were a global empire... soon to be replaced by the English and the Dutch.

[@Knight121198]

In the words of Leonardo Da vinci "Mad sea dogs the Portuguese" For such a little country we really got places.

[@kassiogomes8498]

It should be fully subtitled. No need for English.

[@visupreme2757]

no ngga@@kassiogomes8498

[@sylmyl]

@@kassiogomes8498all the actors would have to learn how to speak Portuguese

[@kassiogomes8498]

@@sylmyl or they should hire actors who can speak portuguese

[@MayumiSaegusaShiba]

lots of catholics have baptismal names. mariko's is "maria", hence the priest calling her lady maria.

[@matdrat]

The distinction between a pirate and a privateer is a piece of paper.

[@stuffmcstuff399]

eh yes and no. Pirates lived for themselves. Privateers pillaged on orders of the State against their enemies - as an extension of the Navy but not beholden to them. Their is a vast distinction. Though, perhaps, not in the eyes of the Japanese during this time period.

[@toratora824]

The reason Japan only traded with the Netherlands in Europe during the Edo period was because Japan had promised the Netherlands not to establish suzerainty over Christian missionaries. Although the country has a strong image of being isolated, it is not a completely closed world and has limited trade with most Western countries.

[@Aviiven]

19:48 this is a real life thing, portugal and spain signed a treaty dividing the world in half for each country, accepted by the pope (the most powerful entity at the time) treaty of tordesillas is it's name.

[@unbeheld]

This isn't show spoiler since it wasn't covered on the show but basically Goroda (who was based on Nobunaga) was the first to subjugate Japan and become the head honcho. Except he got assassinated by one of his own general. Suddenly there was a power vacuum and civil war. The 2 biggest successful generals out of it was Nakamura and Toranaga who were both master tacticians. Nakamura then offered Toranaga a deal to join him to take over the rest of Japan instead of fighting (this was the small tidbit about their meeting and talking about shitting in the same pot, since they shared so many war campaigns as allies under Goroda). So after the war Nakamura became the Taiko and not Shogun because he was born a peasant. Now that he's dead, Toranaga was still feared because he's rich, got a huge army, is a military genius and though the 5 reagents were suppose to maintain the peace, they all felt threatened by him because he actually had the bloodline to become shogun. It didn't help that Toranaga kept increasing his fief through marrying off sons and daughters and getting other noble houses to swear under him. So that's basically why, they wanted to kill him while they could before he grew too big for them to defeat even in a 4v1.

[@boxtears]

You guys are actually great to watch with, keep trucking.

[@michaellockhart554]

Something not mentioned so far is... only Samurai have names, everyone not Samurai are called by what they do, Anjin= Pilot, Tusji=Transltor, the names called out in the prison are actually titels, Chef, Metal Worker, etc

[@RandalReid]

18:51 During that time, it's Queen Elizabeth I

[@markcruz359]

The mother of the heir was in their castle or village. The council wants her to be returned. Also he approved 6 marraiges which the council fears that Toranaga could be seeking allainces through marraiges. And also like you said because of his family lineage they fear him.

[@michaellockhart554]

The Lady Ochiba, the heir mother, was in Edo (now Tokyo) in Toronaga's Castle and capital, she was there as her sister, Toronaga's daughter in law was in labor with his grandson

[@jusskitten6120]

I can tell Bridget is really into this show, she was soo quiet lol but its alot to learn so i get it

[@BumpyBaluga]

"She's a terrible assassin.." as she assassinates 6 peoples lol

[@mcfearsun]

I like how @ 6:26 Martin’s voice fades out and just the two are left speaking, nice little detail and makes the scene less disorienting

[@RobotRockRod]

the Queen of England at that time was Elizabeth the first. SHe was as colonial as Portugal lol, if not more. Oh and Mary/Maria/Marie is a catholic thing, alot of women in Catholic communities get it as a middle name.

[@quwykxz]

EVERY country in the entire world at that time was colonial. that is how EVERY SINGLE ruler expanded their dominion. African countries colonized other African countries, China had colonies in Mongolia, Korea, and other places, and those other places had colonies of their own, Japan had colonies in China, Korea, and some of the other East Asian island nations, Arab and Muslim nations colonized in Spain and some other Euroean countries, and so on. This is why it is so damn stupid and historically ignorant that, in our modern time, people refer only to Caucasian European folks as colonizers, when the truth is that EVERY goddam country and race in the entire world has been colnonizers at some point in history, until very recently.

[@dana8503]

Empire building was the default.

[@Fierce-s8h]

Je pense qu’ils savent que les américains n’aiment pas les sous-titres 😂 bon il y a des japonais qui parlent japonais donc estimons nous heureux 🎉❤

[@erth_mu]

ils saven't pas lire! lol

[@Fierce-s8h]

@@erth_mu j’adore 👍

[@hdhhdfm]

I'm loving how excited Cody is 😁

[@rhuskymikhaelorcullo5832]

I've enjoyed both the episodes so far, and it's really interesting how I can really see how even though John Blackthorne is our protagonist and Father Alvito is a lackey to one of the antagonists, both are very much ingratiating themselves to the japanese, and I can very clearly see that our protagonist is not a good person seeing as how he's killed, pillaged, and plundered all throughout Asia and his motives also being not so pure, he insults the portugese saying they're arrogant and criticizing what they're doing when the english at the time were doing much of the same, I find it so interesting when people I see react to this show are so against portugese supremacy, not realizing Blackthorne's want replacing it with english supremacy.

[@donvalladares6930]

when did it state john wants the same thing

[@MW_Asura]

That's how history is. Everyone is acting upon their own interests, no one is better or worse, the show captures that well. The black and white, "good guys" and "bad guys" some people have is no more than an immature fantasy that doesn't work in the real world or history

[@princesapn]

As a Japanese I've always felt cringy towards Hollywood making 'Japanese samurai', it's never been this accurate!! but this one!!!! Thank you Sanada

[@Feyxd]

Back to back?!?!? Y’all are awesome

[@jessicajones2604]

I thought that guy looked like Justin Timberlake also 😂😂😂

[@lordfite7968]

A good prequel to this show would be to watch the movie Silence by Martin Scorsese. It shows when Portugese missionaries first go to Japan to spread their beliefs. Really good movie

[@DonkeyWomb]

Just found the channel and started watching some videos. You guys are fucking hilarious😂😂😂

[@Thief.Of.Dreams]

Shinto and Buddhism are Japan's two major religions. Shinto is as old as the Japanese culture, while Buddhism was imported from the mainland in the 6th century.

[@behyar2600]

In 1600, Elizabeth (I) was the Queen of England

[@andrewward5891]

I’m not sure if the treaty the Spanish and Portuguese signed split the world between them but they sure split up South America. That’s why Brazil (on the east side of the continent) speaks Portuguese while the rest of South America speaks Spanish

[@beedubree2550]

that was a real thing, they just never managed to take over much else outside of Africa and South America

[@joenull5945]

The treaty was real. South America got split that way because the Eastern part was in the Portuguese half of the world and the rest of the Americas were in the Spanish half of the world.

[@jonsonjavier7465]

Its the Treaty of Tordesillas and Treaty of Zaragoza. That's history...

[@daryllyew62]

Twenty years before this show takes place, the King of Portugal died without an heir and Portugal with all of its colonies was absorbed into the Spanish Empire. Portugal, which had been an ally of the English for centuries, was forced into the war against them and they were none too happy about it.

[@frost1977]

this may be too late for you to read but if this is 1600 the "queen" of England is probably the 1st queen Elizabeth who took over after her sister Queen Mary died. Mary is the one referred to in history as Bloody Mary- she was Cathlich and is responsible for a lot of Protestant Christians being burned at the stake, Elizebeth was a protestant but kept a low profile, they are both daughters of King Henry the 8th the king known for having his wife beheaded. THere is a lot of differences between catholic and Protestant beliefs your main line denominations like Baptists and Pentecostals are all protestants. and really hard to explain in text.

[@erth_mu]

europeans did not bathe often during this period , they found the customs of other nations like the arabs and japanese, bathing regularly to be weird lol

[@dana8503]

Because of the plague. A lot of them believed the plague came through bathing.

[@joenull5945]

It had to do with access to clean water. After the fall of the Roman Empire, Europeans tended to bath less because their access to clean water was limited. The majority of the bath houses and clean water sources were destroyed when the Roman Empire fell. So, most Europeans were left with water sources that were unclean. Unclean water sources are also the reason why alcohol was commonly consumed over water, due to the fermentation process of alcohol making it safer to consume than water. Which is why during this time period children regularly drank alcohol, because drinking water could cause dysentery and other illnesses.

[@MW_Asura]

They did bathe more often than modern people think.

[@moyisisinelungelotunzi]

You should check out Shaka Ilembe. Zulu empire series, Portugese were there as well.

[@ottoarvidsson4526]

"Who is your queen?" ... wow ... normally I would have said: "you get 3 guesses", one for each infamous sole female ruler England has ever had (and the lastest one included, died recently about 2 years ago btw). But for anyone watching this, you would literally just get 1 freaking guess, who the frick it could possibly be. If you would guess wrong or have no idea, then first of all shame on you and then you should go and open up (literally) any global history textbook. Edit:( I know a lot of comments have already given you the answer, so of course you already know by now ... but come on guys. For fuck sake!)

[@wichard1994]

If you wanna know whos the Queen of Enlgand, you better watch this Elizabeth The Golden Age. Although Shakespeare sitll alive during the Shogun era. England and Spain are fighting each other a long time until the death of the Queen.

[@togetherbewell]

6:41 so I can come back and keep watching :)

[@Zseventyone]

Just starting the series, myself. Why can’t they buy Anjin some more realistic looking lenses?

[@onikaze8445]

Shinto is the native folk religion of Japan but had not referred to itself as such until after Buddism was introduced from Korea to distinguish itself from that and in the book, Omi, the Samurai from the original village who cut the villager's head off, posits that the Anjin could be from a different sect of Christianity like there are different sects of Buddhism when the initial priest tells them that the Anjin is not christian.

[@toratora824]

It is possible that the people who spread Buddhism to Japan passed through Korea on their way to Japan, but this does not mean that Buddhism was introduced from Korea. People from the Tang Dynasty, which was in China at the time, came to Japan and spread Buddhism.

[@toratora824]

But your comments about Buddhist sects are correct.

[@onikaze8445]

@@toratora824it was mentioned in one of the summaries I checked before posting. I left it in since the story mentions the failed attempt to invade Korea , even tho their ultimate goal was China, as a way to think of the flow of trade. I didn't mean to imply that Buddism came or originated from Korea. Thanks for the clarifiaction.

[@Maru.01208dos_djp]

日本の仏教は韓国でも中国でも有りません

[@Maru.01208dos_djp]

すみませんが 日本は最古の国 仏教は中国や朝鮮から渡って来たものでは有りません そのような話しは作られた物です

[@tommysoliz3064]

Blackthorns is a English privateer

[@ilidiocarmona4827]

if they used portuguese it would be another language to subtitle and they decided not to.....and its ok....also the portuguese spoken at that time is very different from todays portuguese....they would have to do the same they did to the spoken japonese and that would cost more money.

[@marcosbob]

Please watch Blue Eye Samurai. Also Americans think all Latin America speaks Spanish to this day, Japan didn't have internet in the 1600's what's yal excuse? 😂

[@iinaomasa1508]

Please react to Sekigahara Movie (2017) if you liked Shogun

[@alessandrogirotto9]

Queen Elizabeth I

[@quwykxz]

Pharoh Rameses II

[@tariizm1500]

what u talking about@@quwykxz

[@felisharivera6025]

I would love to see ya reaction to the blue eyed samurai if y’all are watching this ❤

[@joenull5945]

Yes, watch Blue Eye Samurai. A modern American retelling of what happened after the events in Shogun takes place. Because progressive liberal Americans believe the British Empire were the main evil colonizer of the world, they recast the Europeans from being Portuguese, Spanish, and Dutch to being all British. Makes total sense, since historically there was only one person from the British Empire in Japan during that time period depicted in Blue Eye Samurai.

[@FermentingSmeg]

How can you live in the 21st century and not know about Catholics and Protestants

[@CruciaLou]

Because no one cares about religion and obviously they don’t. It’s fuckin stupid lmao

[@RafaelBenedicto]

You two are really clueless about world history.

[@Triskaan]

"Christianity, ruins everything." Yup. The story of religion sadly.

[@quwykxz]

That is just as stupid and ignorant as saying Islam ruins everything, or Buddhism ruins everything, or Shintoism ruins everything, or that believing in Thor, Zeus, or Osiris ruins everything. People ruin things, not belief and faith in one thing or another.

[@roymerritt348]

Evil people use whatever weapon they can to gain wealth and power. Religion can be such a weapon. Atheism is used as a weapon against religious people, too.

[@joenull5945]

It's not religion by itself. It's Governments using religion to gain and maintain control over people. Religion gets people to believe in a spiritual power and give them a purpose for living. Governments then uses religion as their justification for doing what they want and exploits religion to convince fanatical believers to carry out the will of the Governments.

[@kassiogomes8498]

@@quwykxz religion ruins everything. There you go.

[@jonsonjavier7465]

Humans weaponize or use religion to their advantage

[@williambranch4283]

A less dark episode. Pay close attention to the Game of Thrones vibe. It was real not dragons.