Servicing a Monitor on Atari Force Liberator - Electrohome G07 CBO Cap Kit

[@moot6794]

Wow, that rotating globe is crazy for 1982

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYTTiYB-bt19r5I BBC's real-time FX machine, 1982.

[@gorillafighter4037]

It's because it uses vector graphics instead of rasterized "rendering" (very loose use of the term rendering here) each pixel is defined by the pixel next to it instead of scanning the whole screen so shapes and lines can be more cleanly formed and motion more easily replicated because it is not dependent on how fast the screen refreshes. (I am like a negative expert please correct me)

[@Zenkai76]

wow all these years, I had no idea there was a sequel to one of my favorite childhood games!

[@Holammer]

Never seen this game, the rotating planet effect is crazy good for 1982.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

It really is amazing!

[@myheart4apen]

Neither have I! Very cool!

[@bobsmarts3074]

Looks awesome - Missile Command on steroids!

[@myheart4apen]

Yeah! @@bobsmarts3074

[@sparklesparklesparkle6318]

@@TimeRiftArcade hey I don't mean to be weird but I've never felt this urge before in my life. You have awoken something within me. I just like, well, I really want to tug on your ears. This is all so new to me. Anyway great video great channel.

[@1invisibleB]

Would love to see longer restoration/repair videos with you all filming everything else you fix on these cabs like the problems mentioned at start of video. Keep up the great work.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We hear you and there will be some of those for sure. It's a balancing act. Longer videos means less of them.

[@1invisibleB]

@@TimeRiftArcade Totally understand, looking forward to whatever you do next.

[@Nostaljack]

Couldn't agree more. You guys keep doing things "off camera" that I really want to see. I doubt I'm alone there. There aren't that many videos on the channel as it is and the restoration videos are just fascinating.

[@CantankerousDave]

Only one of the arcades in town had this one. I remember thinking that the rotating planet was the pinnacle of realistic game graphics.

[@greypatch8855]

I'm definitely enjoying the new channel

[@clintstewart941]

Glad to see you back on KZbin Mike. I would love it if your videos were longer! Love em.

[@Dinnye01]

I subscribed after David mentioned this channel in his last video. And boy, there is a big similarity between you guys AND the awesome content.

[@Dinnye01]

Even your voices!

[@stoojinator]

@@Dinnye01I think they're brothers.

[@Dinnye01]

@@stoojinator no shit.

[@sdf39882]

Never seen that game before, but wow those sound effects bring back happy nostalgia feelings! Need to find this game and see it in action for myself.

[@IndustryPets]

I just found this channel. Long time viewer of 8-bit guy! Great stuff and it's so interesting to see the similarity in mannerisms between you both!

[@AnthonyPresley-l8f]

I have an all original Atari force liberator that is in amazing shape. One of my favorites and they are super rare!

[@nakfan]

Love these longer video and the time you take to explain things 👍

[@ReinMixTape]

It always makes me happy to see someone who goes for preventative maintenance,replacing 30+ year old caps etc, rather than reform them or leave them caps, etc as is because "they're working at the moment."

[@ryanamberger]

It's amazing how many things I've learned from watching you and your brother. Even simple things like marking capacitors you've swapped. So obvious, but never thought about that. Countless things like that. Really enjoy you both. Thanks for sharing!

[@AMVH2012]

I am intensely jealous of that lab setup.

[@jimcabezola3051]

My goodness! Here in Honolulu, we had "The Fun Factory," and I believed it would always be there for me. Not so... It's a joy to hear your machine singing out "the song of its people!" BTW...those speakers you installed look to be of far better quality than what the unit came with from the factory. They sound great to me, and they really complement the STUNNING picture your re-cap brought out in this machine! I miss being able to drive on the mainland; I'd like to take a road trip to the '80s at stop at your arcade. Take care. Aloha.

[@jcollins1305]

The side cabinet artwork is phenomenal!

[@lqqkout8214]

I love that you have such a well-provisioned lab on-site at the arcade! I imagine that makes the care and restoration process a lot more enjoyable.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Funny, we all feel its not even the bare essentials. :-). We have a real workshop a few miles away.

[@lqqkout8214]

@ ah! It took me a couple more videos to realize that the new arcade and workshop weren’t in the same place! Your team is doing great work

[@classicrockstation]

3:34 - 5:40 I loved this track It sounds kind of Dave Grusin, really cool! ❤❤❤

[@chrisfox9499]

What's the song called

[@Renville80]

Doing a refurb on a electronic circuit board is no different than working on an engine in a car. As long as you're going to be elbow deep in it, you may as well renew various 'consumable' items while you're in there.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Love the analogy!

[@battra92]

Absolutely. If you've done most of the labor, might as well do the tuneup stuff.

[@1stage]

Agreed. I get tired of the "You're wasting money replacing those electrolytic caps when they're working fine..." argument. Most of the time, it's less than US$10 for the kit (for the systems I work on), and it's easy enough to do if you're already reflowing the joints.

[@michaeldaniels8880]

Cool to see a game I've never seen before. Which is saying something since I lived at the arcade in the 80s. Can't wait to come try it out this summer.

[@Ed-jg3ud]

Always so impressed by your repair skills & knowledge. I really do have a gift keeping those vintage machines in working order. 👏

[@squidboy0769]

I used to play a lot of Missile Command and I have never even heard of this game. Thank you for sharing.

[@bland9876]

If that piece of foam was the same size as the PCB you could print out a diagram of the PCB and then stick the capacitors into the foam where they go on the PCB and that would be helpful. I don't know if you can get away with printing a smaller scale circuit board or not but hey that would be better if you could.

[@JimAlfredson]

The Hakko FB300 is a great tool. I bought one over the pandemic to service my vintage synths and it's been a lifesaver. I should've bought one years ago. Love the new channel!

[@martin87865]

Love having the 8 Bit Guy on this channel. you really bring things together.😀

[@johnbucki5567]

Only ever seen videos of this one, might have to come down to Texas in the future.

[@DarrLaw]

Absolutely loving these new videos! Watching you indulge in your passion projects genuinely brings a ton of joy to me! I hope you guys get to 100k in no time!

[@fungiplays2289]

The image after maintenance looks amazing. Great and thorough work! And kudos for your sound reasoning behind doing a full PM instead of the bare minimum. That's what separates good from great.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Thank you!

[@a.j.gregory673]

One of the things I appreciate the most about the work you're doing, is you're repairing the monitors that are so crucial to the look and feel of the games from that time period. Can't wait to see more repair/refurb videos!

[@awalden]

Hi, Mike! I'm sure thousands of others have said it too... so forgive me... but if I close my eyes, you sound exactly like David (or maybe he sounds like you, depending on who's older.) --- I enjoy your channel very much and I wish you continued success! 👍

[@guyguy467]

Always great to see you work

[@rjbush7955]

Not heard of Liberator. Certainly played Missile Command back in the day. The SFX sounds similar to Tempest. Even could be a cross between Missile Command and Tempest gameplay.

[@mcolville]

There was an Atari Force comic! Atari and DC were both by that point subsidiaries of Warner Communications, so this was considered cross-marketing. A mini comic came with the 2600 versions of Defender, Berzerk, Star Raiders, Phoenix, and Galaxian. From there it turned into an actual comic book series, I think. The first DC Comic Graphic Novel was an Atari Force spinoff!

[@SciPunk215]

These videos are great. Please make more!!

[@arcadesunday4592]

Nice rebuild. CRT monitors can really be bullet proof and just look so good. Good luck with Time Rift Arcade ! Ive seen some of your brother's content too... Wish I were there to support!

[@AwesomeWoodThings]

That game seems like so much fun!!!

[@pladampa]

I really like the restoration videos.

[@Treeplanter73]

I have this game on my "1up", pretty good game. Don't remember this in the arcades.

[@JMurdochNZ]

A fine repair. Nice work.

[@RetroTuna]

Never seen or heard of that game it looks good, changing the caps is always a good idea on something that old the screen looka great.

[@cristoferxcruz]

Looks good, I want to go play it!

[@foxstomp4016]

These repairs jobs are super fascinating. I just stumbled upon your channel, and subbed almost immediately. I was also surprised to learn that you guys are relatively close, so I hope to visit sometime soon.

[@damiengreen8200]

This looks fantastic! Great job.

[@gregbrookman]

Really enjoying this channel. Thanks guys 👍🏼

[@dave4shmups]

Great work! I’ve only played Liberator on Atari compilations on home consoles, but it would be great to play it on an original arcade cabinet.

[@sammahasona]

That looks amazing!

[@zeroman0460]

Even from Australia stuff like this is awesome to watch.

[@metalxthrashingxmad1]

I totally miss TheGeekPub, but it's refreshing to see Mike doing well. Really enjoying the content here.

[@bicivelo]

Fantastic!! Nice work 😮😊😊

[@fatihozis]

Thanks for the awesome video

[@thinkingfield]

Love the back to the future reference on your opening date! Just kidding, but you did write 2004! 😊 see, I read the whole description 🤩

[@Arcadehollywood]

I love this game! I need to get mine working!

[@jaspal666]

I’m just up 121. I’ll be there often!🎉🎉🎉

[@davidpippin3460]

Awesome! Cannot wait to visit!

[@1stage]

BTW, if you get one of the Hakko Nozzle quick changer C5046 units for the FR-301/FR-4103, you can pre-stage clean tips with clean tubes in it and not have to wait for your iron to cool down to keep desoldering. Worth the investment.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Cool! Thanks for that!

[@SkittleKicksPlays]

It's not just electrolyte drying out, but if they were not quality caps in the first place they have a higher chance of leaking. Over time that leakage will cause major damage to other components, traces, and even solder pads. This damage can be impossible to fix even with bodge wiring, and can even eat the PCB itself. So what he's doing is the smart thing and right thing to do. Plus is breathes many more wonderful years of life into the classic arcade unit.

[@MrQuist125]

Nice work sir.

[@royger2]

Very cool episode!

[@briangoldberg4439]

it's important to remember that, sometimes, the ESR or the leakage current is as important (or more important) than the correct capacitance. in analog video monitors, there are some critical filter cap spots that will result in the AC power ripple being visible in the raster (or uneven brightness) if the caps chosen are not low enough ESR. because higher voltage ratings on caps can mean higher ESR, you should be careful when you do that, and remember that any visible ripple or unevenness in the raster might have been caused by something like that

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Mike talks about that in the comments below.

[@TruckFan542]

I like these longer videos. The existing ones were kinda short.

[@Applecompuser]

Its like Missile Command with an orbiting globe in the center. Even the same sounds as MC.

[@jdaywork2693]

There's a group across the pond called RMC-The Cave who has a video game museum that would be neat to see you guys visit someday. They do restorations too! I didn't know they did a sequel for Missile Command! I was getting Star Fox vibes looking at the ships!

[@DaveMcAnulty]

gameplay really reminded me of the Star Wars arcade game.

[@MM-fv8is]

A great channel! Thank you

[@Miles64k]

I Love Monitor Repair, G07's and the Wells Gardner stuff looks so easy to work on compared to Hantarex monitors

[@TimeRiftArcade]

It's mostly true!

[@notmuch_23]

Another _great_ reason to replace old electrolytics is because the oxide layer on the foil that forms the dialectric (and makes it a capacitor) gets broken down and the electrolyte chemicals reform it. That uses up the electrolyte chemicals, and at some point the oxide layer cannot reform, and the cap will soon short and fail.

[@terryraymond7984]

yeah I like my Hakko is awesome

[@turbinegraphics16]

This game is really good, its comes with the vcs.

[@greypatch8855]

I need to come see the arcade. It's probably 15 minutes away from me. I need to get a WWP event going here. Would be a ton of fun

[@lilricky2515]

That is a neat desoldering gun. If only there was a similar soldering gun that you just put the gun over the leg of the cap or other components and it would heat and apply solder along with the ability to clip the leg flush.

[@TeddGCM]

Ohh, it's like a reverse Missile Command

[@Anonymous25491]

Come visit the Time Rift Arcade in Bedford, TX - Opening Summer of 2004! I cannot wait to go back in time to visit in 2004. Haha Just kidding, but your info does say 2004 lol. I can't wait to visit.

[@martin1b]

That old solder can be hard to worth with sometimes. A good hot soldering iron really helps.

[@FlyingPurplePizzas]

A fun little video.

[@mikesilva3868]

Great 😊

[@xcon3k]

Good video.. wish they were longer and see other parts of the refurb and repair. Dont care much for the pod casts.

[@williamteuthorn7413]

It's been 30 years since I have repaired video game monitors.

[@jayhays8267]

@6:52, Hey! Is this "The Geek Pub" or the "Time Rift Arcade"?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

It's indeed The Geek Pub!

[@jayhays8267]

Huh? There hasn't been a new Geek Pub video in over a year!@@TimeRiftArcade

[@TimeRiftArcade]

The location this video is filmed is the Geek Pub studio.

[@matt_kelly]

You did a great job on presenting this video, you’re a natural! On another note, are those car speakers in the top of the cabinet? They look like 6x9s.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Yes they are! Lots of arcade games from this era used 6x9 car speakers.

[@Modi718]

I want two hour deep dive of repair process please

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

Isn't that the same monitor crystal castle uses

[@Prah123]

When resoldering, is it important to use the correct kind of solder? Like does leadfree solder have difficulties mixing with lead containing solder?

[@Diablokiller999]

Funny to see how they printed the traces on PCBs back in the day. Did they really just used a marker to apply it as some kind of mask or how did they do these lines?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

It was drawn by hand and then screen printed.

[@lachee3055]

please host more videos

[@aussie_retro_dude9253]

Wow looks like a great game to play ! Any known ports to other systems ?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

It was released on the Atari 2600 in 1983.

[@aussie_retro_dude9253]

@TimeRiftArcade ah ok I'll have to try find a copy 😀

[@Chaos89P]

Isn't this game a part of the Atari 50th Anniversary collection? If not, maybe I can find when and where the Time Warp Arcade is. Hmm, Bedford, TX is a bit of a trek for me at the moment.

[@sa3270]

I have coincidentally been working my way through the Switch version of Atari 50 and just confirmed it is in there. Yay!

[@rig85]

Do you have an Amazon link for that magnifying glass headset?

[@charlesgi5058]

Curious if a monitor doesn't have a 3rd ground plug, how can the chasis act as ground?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Google CRT DAG ground. :-)

[@charlesgi5058]

@@TimeRiftArcade Thanks. Very helpful but reminds me of how little I understand electricity.

[@sanctanox]

I always wonder about the CRT situation. What happens if all the CRT monitors die? Are they reparable for the forseable future or will there be no original hardware in 20 years anymore? Maybe people will use modern monitors and a perfect CRT scaler. BTW I love the longer video format. I hate 2 minute repair videos. They should always be in depth.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

The CRTs will eventually all die. Unless someone starts making news ones the clock is probably about 10 years till we have no choice but to start swapping them to something else.

[@rwdplz1]

Never trust the capacitor polarity markings on the board, especially on arcade boards. Take a picture before you start for reference.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We've done so many of these at this point we know exactly which ones are marked wrong from memory. ;-)

[@RoseWaltz]

i never saw this game, but i remember the Atari Force comic is the game based on the comic or did they just use the team lineup as an image?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

The comic is based on the game.

[@RoseWaltz]

you were correct to be not surprised i never heard of the game

[@TeddGCM]

I'd love to see a Defender or Paper Boy, my two favorite games

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We have both!

[@TeddGCM]

@@TimeRiftArcade Do you have videos of the restorations?

[@taniaschiller9823]

Are you and the 8-Bit Guy brothers ?

[@choo_choo_]

Was gonna ask the same. Their manner of speaking is just way too similar. Same mannerisms, the way they interject themselves, their tonality and emphasis, you could swap the voice to 8BG and wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

[@choo_choo_]

@@TheRealRaddicalReggie-o9l no u

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We are brothers.

[@TimeRiftArcade]

Mike and David are siblings. 3 years apart. Same mother. Same father.

[@choo_choo_]

@@TheRealRaddicalReggie-o9l 🤦‍♂

[@LFOSyncToo]

I would have thought that cleaning the board of her 40+ years soot would have been a nice side to recapping the 40+ years caps...

[@embryon1111]

Do you have a brother? lol......excellent vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@OktaFierce]

Before and after would have been good.

[@TheVampireKit]

🖤

[@MarksofDistinction]

Thank you guys wanna make a bigger channel logo on the screen. At least make it transparent

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We don't see any issues. Maybe you can email us a picture of what you're seeing?

[@Theunownguy]

Love seeing these old machines get new life put into them. Any plans for pinball at the arcade?

[@TimeRiftArcade]

We will have an entire pinball lineup!

[@Theunownguy]

@@TimeRiftArcade awesome!!!!