Set 3, Game 5 - No More Jockeys [04.11.20]

No More Jockeys is a game created by Alex Horne, Tim Key and Mark Watson.
✔ HOW TO PLAY
On each turn, players name a person plus a category they fall under. That person and category are then eliminated, and subsequent people must not fall under that category. As more categories are added it gets harder, and eventually impossible, to name anyone new.
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♫ MUSIC
Holberg Suite, Op.40 (Grieg)
► VIDEO
Alex Horne + Haiminh Le

[@samallwood2319]

Horne saying there is one I'll walk for, gets challenged for it and then doesn't walk. An absolutely devious move.

[@andracatheduckking257]

He even says "i don't understand the challenge" after saying it's the one challenge he'd walk for

[@Jesse-lv2yo]

I love how he argues about the silver belt like Darth Vader's chest buttons aren't all black

[@cakeash]

Also the fact that the challenge was 'No more fictional' which was never a category in this game

[@dariusrejaie7518]

Over a year and a half later and still the most shocking event in living memory

[@TheHumanTheory]

Key calling Horne a Trump man before the game starts, on election night, and then this being the game Horne refuses to concede. There was something in the air that night.

[@kmg43]

Amazing coping you’ve made. However, Horne in the end made the concession.

[@rickywinterborn1004]

I'm in Washington DC and there's an angry group of Horne fans gathering outside the Capitol building

[@SeanS102]

Would be good if Trump had said "I sort of sensed the error of my ways, but also, I quite enjoyed the argument"

[@TheHumanTheory]

@@rickywinterborn1004 I don’t know about you but I get the feeling Horne is indicating he wants us to storm above the line.

[@jessesutton7985]

I guess when you consider Horne is 100% in the right not to walk when the category was specified as ALL black and the picture shown didn't show all of Hogan there are some parallels to draw. A bunch of incorrect people getting mad at the correct person because it's inconvenient for them and then villainizing the correct person because they have the nerve to fight their case. That does just about sum up what happened with Trump. Oh accept he actually conceded without incident once all legal avenues were expended. You realize questioning election results isn't new? Bush v. Gore? And the election was a hot mess which was made all the more suspicious by immediate claims that absolutely nothing was a miss.

[@darrellgolder7384]

If Hulk Hogan wasn’t wearing black cowboy boots that day, I’ll eat my job gloves.

[@bryanparry5661]

He's definitely wearing more black than Darth Vader

[@puckerings]

@@bryanparry5661 Yeah if they accepted that Darth Vader wears "all black" then a silver belt buckle certainly doesn't exclude Hogan.

[@JoffSmall]

@@bryanparry5661 not if the boots are white

[@knailstheman]

@@JoffSmall Do you really think Hulk Hogan was wearing white shoes in those pictures? There's no chance that someone who dresses like that would think "yeah I'm waring a black shirt, black pants, even a black handkerchief on my head, time to put on my white boots!"?

[@JoffSmall]

@@knailstheman maybe he was wearing spats.

[@duncanmartin7107]

We all know Key will now be adding 'dressed all in black' to 'job gloves' in his 'burn the game to the ground' list of favourite categories.

[@alecsoutham2028]

Left handlers completes the set

[@jamieg81]

Nah, Key’s in a happy place, you don’t have to worry about that.

[@dmleach]

By Set 6. it'll be "No more people wearing a black job glove on their left hand"

[@Toastwig]

Dissecting the full ethical ramifications of this game will be somebody’s dissertation one day.

[@gallifreyFNM]

Horne paid money for that countdown timer app for Taskmaster and he's damned if he's not going to get his money's worth

[@dralfredcarroll9567]

Watching Horne struggle to live with the guilt of his wrongdoing is a classic piece of drama on a level with Edgar Allan Poe’s ‘The Tell-Tale Heart’.

[@fionah_6581]

I think it's a case of "wrongdoing" - peer pressure is what happened here. Wato and Key - evil geniuses!!

[@Supermarv94]

Wow. A great shame that Horne was unavailable for this game but Matt Hancock's guest appearance certainly made it one for the ages.

[@SchrodingersCatalyst]

Horne's conscience hitting him harder than Lady Macbeth

[@Peteroranje]

Challenge - Lady Macbeth fictional so she can't have hit him.

[@345tom]

He did the drunk girl thing of throwing up everywhere, getting into fights then realising 15 minutes later that they might have ruined the night

[@AlexRoseGames]

it's macbeth that has the guilty conscience though, lady macbeth is like "take my milk for gall you murdering ministers" and mr macbeth is like "will all great neptune's ocean wipe this blood from my hands?"

[@SchrodingersCatalyst]

@@AlexRoseGames Lady Macbeth commits suicide

[@branbise]

@@345tom When you choose being correct over pleasing others, nobody wins. It's just unfortunate Keywatt is so thick sometimes that being correct becomes impossible for Horne.

[@chicalolita707]

You can practically pinpoint the precise moment when Horne sobers up.

[@branbise]

And yet you didn't, lol.

[@carlascough6506]

Haha. Spot on.

[@AlexRoseGames]

16:04 "I think it's the worst one someone's not walked for". Key's reaction knowing all the stunts he's pulled shows he just realised the seriousness of the situation

[@SgtLion]

Controversial for sure. But all I want to say is hearing Horne say "Did I ruin the game?" broke my heart. You all made for an entertaining evening once more, thank you

[@AlexRoseGames]

it was like a naughty schoolchild, I wondered if he was going to get trounced on whatsapp after the episode

[@Richard_Purdom]

Yeah, I really felt that comment

[@andrewmontague9682]

He wasn't wrong though he properly fucked it.

[@bondfool]

I think he felt burned over the storytelling thing and anxious about the election results and maybe a little less than sober and the combination of the three all just spilled out.

[@AmyHakanson]

It's been said before but Key and Horne are definitely a bickering married couple and Watto is their conflict avoidant kid trying to mediate

[@AlexRoseGames]

I think watto is the one who cares most about the integrity of the game and how the people will view it though

[@AmyHakanson]

@@AlexRoseGames like a kid desperately trying to represent his home life as nice and normal, if you think about it

[@PaddyRoon7]

That's one of the dynamics, the other is Key + Watto being rowdy children with Horne as the frustrated parent lol

[@philh5292]

I love Tim's constantly contrary attitude. 😂 After long arguments that Alex should walk, when he finally agrees to do so Key becomes adamant that he should stay. Textbook Tim.

[@GlennBroadway]

It’s utterly absurd that there was this much drama and controversy and there wasn’t a job-gloves in sight.

[@tmzFRM]

Mark Watson is the moral backbone of No More Jockeys.

[@BodywiseMustard]

He 100% cheated on Jenifer Lewis. He went out of the room and then came back suddenly knowing an obscure alternative spelling of Jennifer.

[@jess228]

Absolutely LOVE seeing Tim getting frustrated by having someone protest a challenge exactly the same way he always does.

[@bondfool]

On the other hand, Mark’s discomfort over the conflict is hard to watch.

[@thealtor]

100 percent agree

[@bonechip01]

Key walks though.

[@cipherhex]

Timmy always walks though

[@slothrr776]

"Counsel, what is your defence?" "My client is not a murderer. I grant you he may be guilty of assault but not murder." "Ok, I'm convicting you of assault." "Hang on, my client hasn't assaulted anybody!"

[@bondfool]

“He’s Not My Penis, He’s My Colleague, Mark Watson” is my favorite Hollies song.

[@callmeedwardo1753]

When you think about it, Horne's Fitbit must be broken because it says he's not done any walking lately.

[@branbise]

When you think about it, Watto is more eager to walk than a dog during lockdown.

[@Aliasalpha]

Horne is simultaneously correct and a monster

[@ianloasby3833]

Just a monster if you really think about it.

[@BrettAllenBFA]

Base on the standard given of Darth Vader who wears a silver belt buckle and has red buttons, Horne was wrong.

[@bondfool]

He came into this one holding a grudge over storytelling, and he was determined to take it out on someone. A rare moment of spite from a very nice man. And then, of course, he can’t hang onto it.

[@stemann8894]

I have to say, as a professional wrestler myself, the character that I perform as is a fictional character. That persona is a character that I and story writers came up with and evolved over years that holds similarities to me (the way he looks, moves and sounds) but is very distinguishable as a different person. In his Gawker lawsuit, Terry Bolea made very clear arguements that Hulk Hogan is a character he plays and is entirely different from Terry Bolea the man. So Horne, as a qualified below-the-liner, you should have definitely got to stepping!

[@AlexRoseGames]

at the very least, if he's not a fictional character, that means his christian name is Terry Bolea and that's clearly a Y-O name

[@sebastiandangerfield9462]

When was “no more fictional” played in this game? I heard “no more non-humans”, but must have missed fictional

[@rkah6187]

@@AlexRoseGames But it was ' the name we know them by' and that was Hulk Hogan.

[@jamieg81]

Key’s “you’re a fucking twat” at 12:15 was just perfect. Classic game when you think about it.

[@fiddledwhileromeburned9197]

No reference to the solid foundation, the Keystone that was Darth Vader. Surely all precedence would refer back to the fundament and his level of blackness.

[@joehollingworth2691]

Exactly. And Vader's got all sorts of silver bits and some red & white buttons. All black with accessories is all black.

[@VideoNozoki]

Completely agree. When in doubt, refer back to the example given. Darth Vader has metal clasps and buttons, so a black leather belt with a metal clasp is all black.

[@Flike245]

Well said. Poor form, Horne.

[@chrisnicol3993]

@@joehollingworth2691 Interesting. I forgot about the silver bits and buttons. I was completely with Horne in his refusal but you've got me.

[@markv6988]

I came here to say the same thing. I think the sensible thing for us to do is to form an angry mob/posse and burn every house we find down until horne’s house goes up in flames.

[@Peteroranje]

This is definitely enhanced viewing pleasure these days, fun 30 minutes watching the video, then a fun 15 minutes reading the BTL!

[@joeprior580]

My biggest issue with Horne in this episode is that he believes Wine Gums are manufactured by Rowntrees, not Maynards.

[@AlexRoseGames]

also, surely Rudyard Kipling has to be the name another

[@cipherhex]

JEEEELLLLLYYYYYY

[@benjaminodell1171]

Guys below the line, there's only one thing for it - let's walk.

[@freddiewjack]

As a tax payer I agree

[@OffaRunco]

Handshakes 🤝

[@Five-lines-of-something]

Only if David Dickinson is a storyteller.

[@barbaricviking]

Now we see the violence inherent in the system

[@dmleach]

It's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do.

[@pantherette113]

Most insane episode of all time

[@Jake-pr7js]

Absolutely bonkers

[@thisgirlfromderby]

I had absolutely no fucking idea what was going on for a good few minutes there and it was glorious.

[@pantherette113]

Tbf Key, Watto and even Horne didn't seem too sure of what was happening either

[@Jake-pr7js]

ive never seen every player want to forfeit but also win at the same time before

[@pantherette113]

3D chess

[@Erthradar]

I think the all black category could be defined as such: if the police put out an APB or some other notice looking for this person on the run, and they were last seen in that outfit, would the police say "he/she was last seen wearing an all black outfit." Or do you think someone would go "there's the criminal- oh wait his belt buckle is silver, never mind."

[@Raear]

Big if.

[@AlexRoseGames]

darth vader definitely has some silver on his suit

[@branbise]

Yea, that might have been better. Actual all black is pretty niche.

[@bonechip01]

Yeah Horne is trying to narrow it down Ninjas only at this point. Even the SAS at the Iranian embassy had some metal showing.

[@cipherhex]

@@AlexRoseGames But the police would definitely describe a run away Vadar as all-black

[@froghornleghorn]

I'm willing to bet right now that Key puts "no more wearing all black" out as the first category next game

[@Tea41]

chaos key

[@VideoNozoki]

He will. And Alex will call him out on even less evidence than we had here today. Bit of a bully. 'Rules for thee, but not for me.'

[@puckerings]

"No more black job gloves."

[@nickpaulhemsley]

This was the Reservoir Dogs episode. The suits. The Mexican standoff. Loved it.

[@bonechip01]

This was slightly more gory.

[@Sofia-nc1tu]

spot on.

[@chriskaprys]

You fail to find Sooty wearing all black in 90 seconds in a dream, you better wake up and apologise.

[@chickiestacks]

Here on a rewatch and I'd forgotten this was That one. As soon as Key said "no more people wearing black", oh it all came flooding back to me. And here I was just looking for something light to watch during dinner.

[@benkolya]

"I don't make the rules" says Tim Key, while making a rule

[@kimz24]

the fact that I found that picture of Hulk Hogan in all black with the white writing where we could see his BLUE shoes should put the doubts to rest. #IStandWithHorne

[@jacksonjackson297]

Outrageous play by Horne. Almost broke the game. Perhaps consider the introduction of a cricket-style Umpire’s Call where a challenge is so close that if you lose you still don’t lose the challenge

[@jamie_rides]

BTL to be the video referee.

[@Peteroranje]

@@jamie_rides really need a live game where BTL can keep control!

[@jacksonjackson297]

I think ATL would really appreciate that. They’d understand some of our struggle.

[@jht22222]

So I guess we are just going to ignore that Horne said “fucking hell” on 9 minutes.

[@SeventhEve]

his squeaky clean image is crumbling before our eyes

[@fionah_6581]

I was very pleased that Horne held the line on ALL black, and then he crumpled under pressure when it was Wato's turn!!! You can't walk retrospectively - where is the integrity in the game.

[@jess228]

I assure you I clutched my pearls and gasped.

[@davidhill3595]

The problem here is keys google skills. Horne knows he can never win a challage because of the incompetence of the person doing the work and it has destroyed him.

[@nuisancepenguin5210]

Indeed, though I might argue it makes it almost, in a way, when you stop and think about it, fairer? If his general incompetence doesn't stop when trying to find something out for someone else it means you're getting a similar level of research in, and if you wanted that research to be quality, 90 seconds doesn't make that out to be the cases. In the end, Key is awful with Google, and I, I don't mind it.

[@babyisaacthomas1007]

This ep was GOLD. I like Alex as a confident & defiant player.

[@valerieholt4057]

I would argue that "The Taskmaster" and "Little Alex Horne" are fictional characters. They describe doing things that their actors didn't actually do in real life, and their personalities are different. And I think that goes for Hulk Hogan as well.

[@MusicalJackknife]

I'm glad nobody decided to go out on "No more fictional," because they misremembered it as being a category in this game. The actual one was "No more non-human," and Hulk Hogan, the Taskmaster, and LAH are still all human.

[@DeLunny]

What a rollercoaster. I've got a lot of respect for Horne there, it takes a big man to admit the error of his ways. We've all been there, when you're playing at such a high level with so much to play for these things happen.

[@branbise]

I can't imagine being Horne here. When you're correct and everyone knows you're correct but it somehow would've been better if you weren't. What can you do but say I'm sorry I wasn't wrong?

[@DeLunny]

@@branbise I think there's a difference between "correct" and "right". It may be lawful but it could be construed as also being awful.

[@branbise]

@@DeLunny This is correct.

[@oobydoobanooby]

The combination of hotel room, shirts & ties and men gives me a whole level of discomfort with the parallels with a boardroom power struggle. I was expecting Horne to receive a fax and Key to be interrupted by his secretary at any time.

[@TheDrugOfTheNation]

Plot twist: everyone was filmed independently in the same room and it was edited together later.

[@Apberg1]

Classy stuff from Key to walk on Jessica Ennis wearing all black when we couldn't even see what colour her underwear were. Good to see that there's still some sportsmanship in this game

[@adamcoatham]

Could have also gone on syllables, given her surname is Ennis-Hill, so 3 syllables in each of first and surnames

[@branbise]

Not so much sportsmanship as much as he might've felt he'd wasted enough time for one night.

[@nelsonic_boom]

Key is a gentleman of integrity, I was appalled by Horne's intransigence. Poor form.

[@richardinnes9966]

When you stop and have a good old think about it, the category was No More Non-Humans not No More Fictional. Also, If Key isn't wearing all black next episode I'll eat my job gloves

[@barbaricviking]

BOOM :)

[@16ozClawHammer]

The match they'll forever be calling The Disgrace of Shoreditch Premier Inn.

[@Jambobist]

One day they will make a film about this match, with Michael Sheen playing Horne.

[@DasIstDerMars]

I was so happy to see Horne finally stand up to the foul plays of Key only to see him crumble. Devastating.

[@bonechip01]

Horne demanding to see Hogan's feet, then dragging Sooty back into proceedings is rich. We don't know how long Sooty goes on for, he could be miles long under that desk.

[@evegasse6999]

I think We Need Answers as to why they're all in the same hotel at the same time..........

[@barbaricviking]

Yes please!

[@maximilianhelgesen2039]

First ever NMJ orgy...if this post-coital round was any indication, it was a DISASTER.

[@JDNization]

American election. It happens overnight in the UK, but people are interested in watching it all unfold live. That's why they said election night in the beginning. Also they are all comedians and friends. A wedding...a convention...a festival? Not hard to think of reasons.

[@michaelbond3341]

Liz Truss: no one does a climb down and U-turn as spectacularly as me. Alex Horne: hold my beer.

[@Izzno]

Horne is an absolute bloody legend here, and him walking goes to show that he wasn't being difficult on Hulk Hogan not wearing black to be petty, he had the integrity of the game in mind at all time. Big game.

[@AlexRoseGames]

I love how watto and key piled on the guilt. "you can't take back the non-walk, I walk too". I wonder what would've happened if it was really key's challenge

[@benktubes]

Watched this again, and I've got a conspiracy theory. At 16:50 Alex says he's established a precedent that the person can't be wearing some black. He realized Key would use this to cause chaos in future games, so he intentionally makes this one game go up in flames to keep it from gaining a foothold

[@BigBadTomA]

I like to think that this is the same room and they've all filmed their parts separately . Top editing

[@OlliePooleCowley]

We all know it's scripted, but I didn't think they'd make it so obvious.

[@russellzwicker3226]

I was waiting for a camping trip style reveal that they were all together

[@AlexRoseGames]

@@russellzwicker3226 I mean, they were definitely all in the same premises, that is absolutely the same hotel

[@eddyrose13]

Horne is very spicy on this one.

[@VinceCaramel]

Forget Schrödinger's cat... it's all about Hulk Hogan's socks/shoes now.

[@1969Kismet]

Bellow The Line, congratulation on an educated pun!

[@bananenbarrikade]

I was quite enjoying a confrontational Horne - was emotional myself after the all black category was called & the sad display surrounding the Sooty googling...

[@michaelgartly3753]

The Sooty googling was a hollow sham.

[@eastendlass]

I don't agree. The magicians outfit has gold stars!

[@SilentSamamander]

This was, in the nicest way, an absolute shambles. It was also incredibly entertaining.

[@generalhargrievous9928]

Fancy ending on 'Sooty is a goth'

[@willorchard]

I'm rewatching all the old games in the run up to the new series, and even after all this time it's hard to grasp just how iconic this game was

[@AshleySmith-dw6wh]

I’m surprised Tim didn’t argue that shoes aren’t real clothes

[@miket6105]

Some shocking Googling skills on display here. Within a minute you can find a pic of Sooty wearing a black magicians hat and Kathy Burke wearing all black on the Last Leg. Shambles.

[@nathan87]

Yeah the wiki page on sooty has him just wearing a black cap too

[@neilmeadowcroft7569]

Just googling soo now predicts "sooty wearing black"!!

[@bearhustler]

Can't see Sootys shoes though so I guess it's fine.

[@AlexRoseGames]

@@neilmeadowcroft7569 we own the search results now

[@eastendlass]

However, on his magicians outfit, there are gold stars!!

[@RhianWilkinsonMusic]

Consider this a “boo” and a ”hiss” below the line for Horne not walking on Hulk Hogan

[@visigothic67]

I'm with Horne here. A persona with a silver belt buckle and unknown shoes is not fictional or in 'all black'

[@sullonater]

@@visigothic67 Nonsense, a belt is an accessory not a piece of clothing. Are we saying no rings allowed either? Absolute madness.

[@rehsuekul8706]

wanyesullo you couldn’t see the full photo, I’m amazed he didn’t go for that aspect of such a weak challenge

[@Wolfer1OOO]

@@sullonater you wear a belt and the catagory was 'wearing all black'. you also wear a necklace which you could see in that pic which also wasn't black! When you think about it, Horne is in the right on this occasion

[@VideoNozoki]

Darth Vader has metal alloy on his all black outfit the same way that Hulk Hogan is wearing all black (a black leather belt, where the clasp is probably titanium or stainless steel). Horne should have argued his case, realized he lost, and walked like the others have done, instead of muddying the waters so much that no one felt comfortable continuing the game.

[@drw23]

I'm sticking up for Horne here. He got done on the work for Sooty, and Key has refused to walk on shakier pretexts in the past. I think Horne's good nature has been exploited in the past, and this was an understandable display of chagrin.

[@lemurunc]

drw23 is exactly right. So many times Alex has been way too generous, whether in letting Tim Key keep going after a clear error, or voluntarily walking on shaky ground. Nice to see him argue for a bit for once - even though, strictly speaking, he should have been out. But the problem was really the category. There needs to be a way to strike down a proposed category - like, what if Key opened with something like "Hugh Grant, no more people with a vowel anywhere in their name." The game would just end right there! A category that's so broad it basically stops the game should not be allowed in the first place, and "wearing all black" definitely comes close if not crosses that line.

[@terrynutkins0]

Undoubtedly Horne has shown grace, favour and fair play throughout the run of this show. But he just shat on all of that in this ep.

[@michaelgartly3753]

@@lemurunc Like a 'Don't Be A Fuckwit' rule, you mean?

[@geoffrstone]

I'm in Horne's corner. You can't see his shoes. You gotta see the whole lot. If Horne takes his tie off are we to assume he's wearing all white?

[@unseenzulu]

ABSOLUTLEY LUDICROUS PLAY BY HORNE.. LUDICROUS

[@drwoo6090]

Don’t ever stop making this show! It’s brilliant, and I love you all! ❤️❤️❤️

[@m_w_a_t]

Horne firing up to stay in the game. You love to see it. I think all black is all black, not mostly black with exceptions. We'll likely see clarification on these types of catagories moving forward. A game for the ages. Fantastic!

[@tobywiddop4817]

Feels like Mexico '86. Hand of God level gamesmanship from Horne. Grubby.

[@deusbestope4325]

I'm gonna say it, I think Horne was right not to walk and I will die on that hill. And Mark never would've walked on that picture, white shoes AND scarf? Despicable lie!

[@urbanbushing]

Horne using the type of logic usually reserved for Key. I don't mind it.

[@WhitbyStuff]

I think it's well-known the hotels make people more argumentative.

[@kevineugenius]

Three years and many rewatches later, I finally noticed that as they say for the first time "Hollywood Hulk Hogan" someone should've challenged on the YO category. Can't fault them, it took me 3 years which is longer than, your friend and mine, 90 seconds.

[@zachcleary4687]

Unprecedented scenes to say the least

[@jessesutton7985]

I think Horne was 100% in the right not to walk on ALL black. The first shot had a giant white logo across his chest, not even close. The second shot cut-off just below the ankles. Who knows what was going on down there. The rest of his pants weren't even necessarily black forget about his footwear. The fictional challenge was pretty funny. He did have a cartoon series, and it is a persona, but ultimately it's a real person who's given themselves a stage name. it's a challenge I'd have thrown out early in a game if I still had both spares.

[@benshirtfriends]

Complete and total car crash of a game. Glorious.

[@mattbarr6732]

Enjoyed Horne celebrating election night by imitating Trump's delusional refusal to leave office.

[@Jambobist]

Strong comment.

[@AlexRoseGames]

foreshadowing

[@fredcowen242]

I've never been so disappointed in Alex Horne

[@benjaminmoss2767]

Back Horne to the hilt on the all black Hulk Hogan call. Nice to see him standing up for himself for once when he’s walked on plenty of soft ones before (Buzz Aldrin....). Scandalous that he then walked (without even being challenged!). A ridiculous game. But all in all I don’t think I mind it.

[@mango-blumis8293]

I'm gonna say it... Horne was right not to walk and I am glad he stood his ground at first hahaha

[@TheHomestarX]

Horne with a fuckin hell and Key with the unprecedented category of all black. What a roller coaster of emotion this game.

[@davevad9]

Brilliant play by Horne

[@davevad9]

Spoke too soon, bottled it.

[@aramintypotter]

This is such a love-hate episode for me. Sometimes it cracks me up. Sometimes it breaks me down and I have to turn it off. That's why we love NMJ.

[@peacefulpaul]

This is highly relatable

[@sarah-qz5oh]

i have been binge watching no more jockeys the last week and i’ve finally caught up to the day of release happy to be here

[@Peteroranje]

It does mean you have to wait a whole week each time though :(

[@MrHenrysVids]

WHAT AN INTENSE GAME. Horne shouldn’t have self sabotaged, they could’ve just carried on. 😂😂

[@Shift8YawnsShift8]

15 hours uploaded and it already has twice the usual comments... Horne's move was controversial there's no doubt about that.

[@247MS1]

Let’s be honest BTL, if Key’s pulling what Horne tried to pull there, we’re celebrating. It’s genius defence from Horne and I’m convinced Mike Dean should have been a lure.

[@gabividigal2839]

was quite excited about Horne pulling a Key, hope he goes through with it next time

[@xeozim]

When you're rewatching the NMJ back catalogues and you see this hotel background, you know its going to be a good day

[@ChrisBillig]

Watching still blacked out in Texas. Thank you for the joy!

[@SlothBird]

this is the most insane game ever

[@stupidusername46]

Y'know, not many sports would include a pointless 4 minute argument about the rules in the middle of play, but you guys do, and I respect that. I may not like it, but I respect it. Actually, if I'm being perfectly honest, I may not even respect it. But I respect it

[@Peteroranje]

This made me laugh. It truely is the sport of kings. Very argumentative kings.

[@tashaaaaaaaaaaA]

this genuinely made me so annoyed I went on a walk

[@tatianabelic2456]

Horne shouldn't have walked. Key said all black and all black means EVERYTHING black. And as for the second challenge, the category wasn't: no more fictionals, it was: no more non-humans. Although Hulk Hogan may be a persona or fictional, he is still a human. If you already argue for your case, don't give up.

[@daconor91]

Key also said he won’t be saying any referees or any New Zealand rugby players due to the category. Premier league refs and All Black players both have a tiny bit on non-black design on their uniform so Horne definitely should have walked. It was a disgrace that he didn’t when originally challenged

[@arnold-hu4vk]

@@daconor91 agreed

[@ammagetchell1854]

i lost it when horne pulled out the book 😂

[@thismadhope]

Remember, remember the 4th of November. The day the game had its edges pushed and lines drawn. Big, big.

[@billyoliver79]

This is fantastic!! Thanks, boys!!

[@adamcoatham]

A belt (and its buckle) is absolutely an accessory rather than clothing

[@richardthackray851]

+1 for Team Horne here. He risked everything to highlight a ridiculous category. He should never have backed down.

[@Parksey01]

Maybe this is why Greg decides who gets the points on TM...

[@myserious_record2774]

This game was absolutely chaos! And I loved it!

[@georgeturner2552]

I'm studying for a PhD in Philosophy and I'm tempted to write a paper on the metaphysical status of the concept "all black". I still don't think I'd understand what the fuck just happened.

[@shanecommins7968]

Well you wouldn't, because you'd be asking the wrong question. The problem with Horne's defence isn't that the concept of 'all black' is problematic in some abstract metaphysical or ontological sense, just that it's definition *for the purposes of the game* is ambiguous. Mind you, that itself could be philosophically interesting - Wittgenstein, language as a system of shared meanings, etc.