Nike Zoom Fly Flyknit Full Review | VOTE

[@Apotato84]

You should do a comparison between these and the 4%'s.

[@JoshNishitani]

I’ve ran about 500km in my pair of zoom fly knits. I love how bouncy and responsive they are

[@4rollingon4]

Great review, spot on, the only thing I'd add is that the Zoom is very specific in that it dictates your form and speed, unless you're running under 6.45 they begin to feel progressively worse as pace drops. At about 6.30 and under they really start to come alive. 3 of us have all taken minutes of our halves with these shoes, beasts in the right conditions!

[@lassekb05]

Nike pegasus vs Nike zoom fly flyknit

[@ali_sales]

I’ve had the exact same experience with the zoom fly. My foot sometimes felt like it was going to roll away from the midsole at times. Agree 100% with the sloppyness of the upper.

[@redmanhigh]

I'm around 240/300 km on this shoe for running. And I have been wearing it casually too. It is amazing. Still holds great. It's still reactive, and you can feel the plate, if you lean hard and push yourself. Done myself PR 3k race and 5km. (9:50/16:50) in them. They are just awesome. Even for easy days, they are so soft, smooth transition. Amazing fit and lockdown. If you can still find them don't look back buy a pair.

[@michaelkennedy9031]

I run in the Ultraboost 19 and tried the zoom Flyknit but found there was a lack of platform. It felt unstable. Certainly lighter than the Ultraboost 19 which is why I tried them and want to find a lighter shoe but to run a 3hr marathon it takes more then weight to be a great shoe

[@SADIQ1414]

I have 75 miles on the Nike Zoom Flyknit and I'm saving them for races and training runs before races. I felt almost everything you said about the shoes, especially the narrow toe box. Thanks for the amazing review and I chose A for the battle :).

[@Jeremy-vf7su]

Bought this shoe last year because of your review. Serving me well for my races and tempo days, thank you!

[@MonteComeau]

I have been running in Zoom Fly's since the first version. My latest pair is the Zoom Fly Flyknit and love them for fast days. I also have the Zoom Fly SP FAST version and actually like that version the best of all 3 pair I have. The SP FAST has Lunarlon foam and the nylon carbon infused plate and I think is a bit stiffer but more stable than the newer Flyknit.

[@noahreighard954]

3:09 - *THAT,* my friends, is what a perfect footstrike looks like.

[@AuDHDRunner]

your comment on heavier runners is spot on. After 50 miles on zoom fly fk next to zero wear on react foam. Only 15 miles on Vaporfly the zoomx is already shreading. I have a half in the vaporfly tomorrow. Wonder if they will survive? I'm 210lbs. The high stack height certainly makes heal striking worse. But strides are instantly longer. The zoomflys feel like a narrower and slightly stiffer hoka to me. Just WAY more durable. I like for training tempo and long runs.

[@davidbarclay7606]

I have 20 miles on my vaporflys and they are shredding as well, especially on the outer edge of the heels , I'm 165 lbs

[@angelorodriguez5985]

Option B Zoomfly flyknit vs Pegasus 35 Turbo. These are both fast training shoe so the battle would be fair.

[@DrReddit]

Pegasus a lot better for big impacts but zoomfly is a more speedy shoe.

[@cotejnfrs]

Question for you. Would you replace the shoe laces? And by what? Love the shoe, but the laces are bit deceiving. Thx. Love your reviews.

[@lassekb05]

Have you Think about the Adidas sub 2 or the Nike epic reacht

[@princessli2224]

Seth what's running shoes should you recommend for a long run like 21k,...😊👍

[@kevburmaster7161]

May I also mention there's a bit of a rocker in the forefoot that make you want to toe off faster. I mean, I perceive that rocker that rolls you forward. I really love this shoe. It's light, it's fast, it's cushy. Ran in them today for the track and along the beach (the loose sand on the path caused some slipping). You're spot on about the lateral stability though. It's a little sloppy, but that's the double edge sword with high stack height. QOD: Option E

[@MrTknilsen]

Hello SDJ, after running this shoe for a while I love the feel of speed it gives me... however I feel some pain underfoot, you mention this in your video as well (you say you feel your feet). Could you please elaborate on that for me? Never felt this pain with any other shoe. I normally experience the pain after 5km, before that it us all ok, and a super nice shoe. The pain feels like a bubble just behind the three middle toes, and pressure builds there. Did you feel anything similar? Thanks for your reviews, very helpful. Found your channel when searching for the zoom fly 3, hope to see the 50 miles review of that soon 😊

[@kev8557]

Hi Seth! Thanks for the great review as usual. Really temped to pull the trigger on those to go with my Peg Turbo and Vaporfly flyknit. Any achilles soreness in the Zoom Fly?

[@scotmoser8716]

As a competitive runner for 50 years in August , I've seen quite a range of running shoes. At 64 I find this shoe as fast as my Mizuno Sonic. Since my Lifetime PR's are long gone meaning that it's more important to gait more protection. I have used at 5k distance and am running between 20-21 minutes.this is about 10-15 seconds per mile faster than the lighter flat without the carbon plate

[@joshellingham4447]

Option A. I have about 50 miles in my Zoom flys. Wondering if I should upgrade. The carbon fiber plate takes a little getting used to. I think it helps you run just a little. I find myself running faster in these with a lower heart rate compared to other shoes. I’m running a Half Marathon next month and these might be my shoe of choice. I have the Pegasus Turbos also.

[@TimGrose]

If just one B please. Got a pair of Pegasus Turbo, 4%, adios and they all sufficiently different. Done over 500 miles in the Turbos now and time to think of either another pair or the Fly for more regular road training runs.

[@ChumpFPV]

Hey man I just got a new pair of vomeros by Nike and have about 45 miles in them and it’s caused by shins to not feel hurt but tight and tired especially at the mile one or two of eight and my calves are also getting tight constantly . I just came from nike free runs. I’ve been told I should get rid of the shoes but I think it might be a difference in weight and toungue design so id figured I ask your opinion on this( also don’t wanna spend 130 more bucks)

[@JoshNishitani]

Chump.FPV maybe you’re lacing them up too tight?

[@I0wnUwithknife]

Hi Seth, I’m starting to train for another marathon and I’m in need of a fast tempo run shoe. I race in the 4%. I saw that these are on sale right now for 80$, do you think these are a good option? Am I hindering my ability to succeed race day by training in a carbon plate? If so, what should would you recommend for those hard effort tempo runs?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

David, I think the Zoom Fly is a great choice, especially if your legs are tired and you need a little help to hit your goal splits for a workout. If you're looking for a lower drop the Hoka Carbon Rocket is proving to be very comfortable and it also has a carbon fiber plate with a 1mm drop. And another option with no carbon fiber plate is the Skechers Razor 3, but the build quality is certainly not as solid as a Nike shoe.

[@I0wnUwithknife]

@@SethJamesDeMoor Awesome! Thank you so much! I think I'm going to go for the Zoom fly!

[@andrewparker5800]

Really enjoyed the video Seth. I’ve been curious about the Zoom Fly Flyknit for ages now, and this has just tipped me to ordering a pair. Looking forward to taking them for a ride.

[@GreyJedi17]

Don't buy. You may regret this

[@Kam-Bogey]

Picked these up at Nike outlet yesterday for $48. Win!!!

[@sanurumi4188]

Ty Kam dam what a steal i still got these for 90$ at my nike outlet

[@Deadbuck73]

Got mine today for $60... not as good as your deal but I’ll take it anyways as I got a pair of turbos for 60 also...

[@laurarunner7952]

I just bought these! Running my first 5k in them tomorrow. They feel a little tight in the toe box, and I'm normally a size 8. Is that normal?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Yes, right in the toe box but should be great for a race, I like my shoes a little snug on race day.

[@laurarunner7952]

@@SethJamesDeMoor thank you! I love seeing your enthusiasm for running. So inspiring! ❤

[@jimoconnor8597]

Easily one of my favorite shoes to run faster miles in. Did a road 50k in these shoes and they were $$$$. Rained the full 5 hours and did not have any traction issues.

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Awesome Jim!!

[@DreTheChronic]

You mentioned they're too heavy for half marathon, and I'm finding them pretty heavy too. What shoe would you recommend for a half marathon? Thanks!

[@bradleykoch8049]

Definitely B. Was weighing up these two shoes and went with turbo. As I am a forefoot runner and the carbon fibre plate is used more effectively with heel striking!

[@billherlin5832]

Option A is my choice for the battle. I’ve enjoyed watching your videos, but will enjoy even more now that I know you rooted for Stockton and Malone back in the day. Keep up the good work!

[@botterweckwb]

I'll go C. How about a cage match with Addios/Vaper/Razer/Rocket. Winner take all. What about Reebok vs Vapor? Great video, on point. I like the Zoom Flyknit a lot. Getting over a calf strain with a half on 4/20, and this shoe has helped me a lot with the react foam and stack height. You should pick up Epic Reacts. That is the react without the plate. I have the Odessey version, went cheap, they feel great but are so hot! The Zoom Flyknit is not the lightest, but it still just feels fast on foot and good cushion.

[@liama-p8281]

Cool

[@liama-p8281]

I agree about the epic react

[@steveh5242]

Interesting! Nice review-you mentioning you're open to running in it without the plate, that's pretty much the Epic React right there!

[@dongkimm4034]

Steve Horvitz or the vapor streets

[@dannygoff5131]

Hey Seth, I am looking to run my first marathon next month and I was going to buy the Vapor fly 3’s to run them in... but then I saw these are $70 cheaper! I know you say that you would run a marathon in something different, but between the vaporfly 3 and this pair... is it worth it to spend the extra $70 on the vaporfly 3 or should I buy these?

[@martinkulik9466]

everybody says vaporfly feels much superior over this

[@XxJuanluGamerHDxX]

How is the sizing?? Great video.

[@anandbundellu8445]

Hi I read the following in sole review.com and I quote “ If you are running any slower than a 3-hour marathon or a 20 minute 5K, you might want to reconsider your purchase choice. The Zoom Fly penalizes paces slower than 4.20 min/km or 6:50 min/mile” Is that true? Also many reviews mentioned that the shoe is not good for runners with wide feet ? Does the carbon plate change your stride while running. Pls help with answers

[@juliahaaparanta]

I've got the shoes and run around 4.50-4.40 min/km and I think they work well. You definitely feel fast and want to go fast! The sales person who sold me these also told me that "to get the most out of these shoes you've got to go kind of fast" but she also told me she had seen people jog in them.. The shoes are pretty narrow in the front in my opinion.

[@jollyroger1009]

This was the video where I first discovered Seth. Happy memories. Nike Zoom Fly was a good shoe too.

[@jacobanteau6020]

I would recommend trying the epic reacts. They are basically the zoom fly without the plate. You'd probably like it.

[@RunningOtaku]

QOD: E. I’m looking for a interval shoe for running at 5K pace on the roads. I am quite happy with the VaporFly 4% for marathon pace work, but it’s a little unstable and not sure-footed on the wet pavement here in Portland to go faster. The Razor 3 is also so-so on wet pavement, but I love running my interval/tempo workouts in them.

[@neznuga4859]

Do you put your cameras along youre route? Or do you place the camera, go around the corner then record the scene? Ive always been curious

[@jacobkeogh3388]

would you use these for a 5 kilometer/3.1 miles cross country race and intense weekly training?

[@benmiller6027]

QOD- option E looks interesting. I was interested that you said your feet felt beat up in the zoom fly Flyknit. I have been doing some runs in the original zoom fly and am now struggling with plantar fasciitis. I also felt that the bottom of my feet were beat up in that shoe. Now I know the two shoes are almost completely different, but is anyone else feeling their feet get beat up by these shoes?

[@joshcontreras8821]

The original zoomfly injured my left leg from knee to mid shin. I was messed up for like 3 months

[@hypnoticlife01]

Hy James. You are great - the best! Tell me please which shoes are the best for long easy sunday runs? Is it Pegasus 35 or something else? If someone else comment and suggest on shoes, i would be also happy. Thanks for the answer!

[@toddboucher3302]

My vote goes to E Maybe not used to a higher stack. But tried the original I felt it was clunky and my left knee was collapsing. I heard these are much better. Do they feel stable. I think dec I’ll try a BQ thinking I’ll run in streak LT or streak 7.

[@brunocassettari]

Fantastic review today. I’m counting the days to get stable enough to run a half on these Zoom Flies. QD: 1-D 2-E 3-A Plus, why not, Razor 3 vs. Carbon Rocket😅 Why not doing a broader comparison on potential marathon shoes, more than only comparing 2 at the time, like you did with Peg. 35, Turbo and Vomero last year? Nothing can bit the technology of the Vapor Fly 4%, proven by runners sponsored by other brands using it, so I would focus on what is the best second option, which will certainly be more affordable. Just a humble suggestion... Cheers to all runners crashing their long runs this weekend!!

[@matp8493]

Is the flexibility in these similar to the 4%? By that I mean do they do the work of the metatarsals as Seth mentioned in the 4% review?

[@imtired5401]

I found some at dd's discount The exact same pair , same color...for only 39 bucks

[@neiswestnij]

I just got my zoom fly fk 2 weeks ago in the new light blue color and I looooove them. The carbon plate definitely works well. love the bouncy feeling

[@nelson12330]

Could you use this shoe on gravel dirt roads or strictly pavement?

[@sflgermany2109]

Aloha from Germany, Options A&B would be great to get your opinion since I run them all as well and don't know, which to choose for the coming Ironman races this season. Thx Dude!

[@jeffreylingad007]

i have boston boost 6, and wide foot. what's your recommendation for me for buying nike zoom fly flyknit? the fit of boston 6 and zoom fly flyknits are so much different?

[@ptlewis2000]

As a big guy, this was the best shoe I've raced in the 5k this year (over the Zoom Fly 3, Asics DS Trainer, and Saucony Fastwitch)

[@michaeltran2743]

I’m a big guy myself. I loved these so much I just recently found a second pair. But my 1 con on these is that the flyknit becomes too stretched after around 100mi. But other than that I loved every mile in these

[@ObesetoBeast]

I really appreciate your videos man! I am doing my first marathon on june 2nd So your videos have been nice to help motivate me!

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Get it!!

[@isaacwalker1491]

I'm your opinion should you go half tights or shorts?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Depends on the temps. Cooler temps I prefer half tights.

[@sfak5]

Though I'm now more of a (slow) trail runner...I've run around 300k so far in these beauties..Really satisfied. Your review is so accurate, Seth! Greetings to everyone from Greece. Nikos.

[@surbhibahl1012]

Hi I just bought my Nike Zoom Fly FK, sadly it’s a bit tight for me:( bought US 7 while my Nike Pegasus size is 6.5. Any tips on how it could loosen up over time?

[@paulbarton957]

Just got these today. Got them for £55 from Nike. Didn’t quite realise how ‘high end’ they are. Popped out for 5km test. Definitely fast! And yeah, the ankle roll thing could be an issue. Good shape to them too.

[@lal2235]

works for easing the charge on the knees?

[@gabegd23]

I set a PR last year in these shoes and I'll be wearing them again for a half marathon next weekend. I'm not fast enough to justify the 4% so these are close enough for me. I agree that you feet are a bit beat up after lots of miles in these shoes, so I only wear them for long tempo runs or races.

[@aristodiga82]

definitely E. these are the 2 shoes I currently consider to buy right now.

[@Juniperskeleton]

Gonna go with option B. I bought some New balance 880v9's today.... So I guess I'm no longer anti 10mm drop lol. Trying to have a variety. So I would have a slight interest in a zoom fly or peg turbo for racing. Still leaning towards a cheaper more traditional flat though.

[@maxmandudi2902]

Great review by the way

[@carlosblank6629]

Just bought a pair for $90. I like the soft react midsole compared to the stiff lunarlon of the first generation.

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Good to know Carlos, thanks for sharing

[@Pacha989]

I have pretty wide feet, what shoes do you recomend for fast shoe or/and mid,long disctance ? :-)

[@8bitgerman477]

B! Those are two of the most talked about shoes right now and I’m still a bit torn between the two.

[@GreyJedi17]

Dont buy the Zoom fly

[@davidhompanera7860]

Option B. Another battle could be zoom fly flyknit vs zoom fly sp

[@botterweckwb]

I have both. The flyknit is a much better shoe. The SP is a harder shoe. The Lunerlon and plastic plate make it way harder.

[@zachcrim6223]

B I just ordered the turbos over the zoom flys, so hopefully that battle wouldn’t make me regret my choice lol. FYI- zoom flys are down to $103 on Nike.com

[@natl9480]

I think Zoom fly flyknit vs hoka carbon rocket would be another choice. They are similar both weight and carbon plate.

[@joshcontreras8821]

So is the react foam density greater in this or in the vomero

[@castormen6132]

Great video again! I would like to see the options B and E

[@multm7108]

Agree with the sloppy foot feel, I've got the original Zoom fly and I prefer that one because the foot feels secure and locked in, and its 10g lighter in my size too.

[@DavidGomezSaavedra]

React. I vote for B. I've been using the zoom fly for long runs with some quality on them and really enjoyed them. I wonder how they compare to the turbos

[@jeffdover6845]

Turbo is softer ride

[@ptheiss0428]

Jeff Dover The lockdown and balance is also way better.

[@iGo0gIe]

I personally like the original zoom flys better. They’re a lot more stiffer but they’re more stable in my opinion. The mesh upper is more secure and holds your foot down better.

[@suzannelaburt2641]

He's gotta go with the VF %4...no brainer! The magic shoe of Champions, and non-elites alike. Editorial comment: I tried my friends VF %4, too marshmallowly, drop too high for me, no ground feel. I probably could get use to them but I'm loving the Reebok Floatride Run Fast Pros..racing fast in these, currently up to 10 miles

[@jimoconnor8597]

Run some distance in the 4% (like over 14 miles) and you will feel the magic of the shoe. I have both and my legs would be trashed in a full in the Rebook. 10K was max for me.

[@suzannelaburt2641]

@@jimoconnor8597 Thanks Jim, my legs were fine after the 10 Miler (actually ran 14 total miles in them that race day). I can't borrow the VF 4% from my teammate. i just ran a mile in them to see what the hype was about. Way too cushy for me. I have Morton's Neuroma and the NB Beacons made it flare badly just from the foam! I'm still a low drop shoe runner. I ran my second fastest 10K ever in 43 yrs of running this past Sunday 39:14 in the Reebok Pros...92.84% PLP @ 55 yrs old, legs felt great!

[@jimoconnor8597]

@@suzannelaburt2641 AWESOME!!! I'm 55 as well and the 4% just kept my legs so fresh after my first full. Going for a BQ (sub 3:35) in the 4% this fall. I do like my Run Fast's but the firmness just hurts my legs and knees after about 8 miles. Guess we have to love that there are so many great shoes available to run in these days.

[@suzannelaburt2641]

@@jimoconnor8597 Yes Jim that's what I hear about VF 4%, saves ones' legs from the rigors of long distance! Good luck with your BQ!!! Which marathon are you running? I BQed my second marathon and ran Boston 1990...the days of no chip timing and honor system in the corrals (roped in like cattle). Took me 7 minute to cross the starting lining...48° at the traditional Noon start for ALL, temp climbed up to 76° by heart break hill...typical Boston, predictability unpredictable. I went to watch our Elite friend run 2017, things certainly changed but still an epic race!

[@jimoconnor8597]

@@suzannelaburt2641 Looks like I'll run in Jacksonville, FL for the BQ attempt. Flat course usually reasonable weather. I probably will actually run Chicago first with a sub 3:35 and then go to Boston on that result. That's the plan anyway! :) PS Coach has me in for a 3:18 attempt but that is a pretty big goal for a 55 yr old runner only 2 years in to running. Once I get past this ITBS, we will see!

[@jgangstahippie]

I love the Zoom Fly as my speedwork shoe, and my Tempo Run shoe. I'll occasionally will put it on for race day, when I want to take things a little more easy and give my 4% a break. That said I have a lot of issues with my Nikes fraying at the heel outside corner. The most extreme case being my Pegasus 35, which after 200 miles I realized some of the rubber was peeling off on the sole. 4% shows some wear there for 28.7 mi, Zoom Fly to a lesser extent at 39.8 mi . My Adidas Solar Glide by contrast show minimal wear and fraying of the continental bottom at 224.1, and my adidas Solar Boost 114.8 mi, and ASICS GEL-NIMBUS 20 215.9 mi, show next to no wear.

[@notjesuss120]

I've had these shoes for more than half a year and they are still good. I have ran more than 100 miles on It and the black rubber is starting to fade off

[@chadshawver3870]

Do these shoes run true to size or do they run a 1/2 size small? I am seeing conflicting comments about this.

[@adamnishigaya5865]

I like the Adios, vapor fly and carbon rocket idea

[@scissorhandification]

Shoe battle. Option B! Great channel, keep up the awesome work 😁👍🏻

[@michaelwyhau]

what do you think the durability for zoom fly / next %/zoom fly 3/alphafly ?

[@mechadriver5088]

React is more durable than zoomx. That said, it is also firmer and less bouncy. So if you want to go for training, maybe zoom fly. I find the shoe too firm for me. The zoom fly 3 is very stiff. I have over 200 miles on various vaporfly fks. They are not a stiff (I ran races with them with over 100 miles) the more miles I put in, but then use them for training/long runs up to 225+ miles. The main wear point is the lateral heel. I burn through the outsoles/wear them down to the foam.

[@sageatahan5489]

Hi Seth, great video! I was wondering if you had tried the ultra-boost 2019. and to know your thoughts. thanks. sagea from israel

[@chuarh7393]

Sagea Tahan the ultraboosts are too heavy for running and aren't really good for running. Coming from personal opinion. Good for walking, but running isn't so good. Maybe if u only run casually

[@charliehelfand969]

Rui Heng Chua Yeah the review I read on those was that they felt the best at a hard tempo run but they were too heavy for that run speed.

[@johanpettersson-evers5367]

Option B. And thanks for the Flyknit price cut-tip at the official Nike site, got a pair straight away. 🙏

[@nxzca]

Just picked these up!

[@erwinandrew]

Okay i’d go for the underdog. QOTD answer is E. Btw got my zoomfly flyknit this afternoon on sale at 90us dollars (converted) from a local store.

[@ronanmcmahon-staggs7313]

You can try that shoe without the carbon fiber plate with the Nike zoom fly. I have it. It is a good shoe and is the exact same just not flyknit or carbon fiber plate and it runs 50 or so bucks.

[@nytefoxx2878]

I've put 40miles into mine this week (10 miles yesterday). I could really feel the plate when I got about 6miles in. My feet are sore today because of where my foot made contact with it. That being said, it was my best run by about 1min per mile. I'm not sure if the size is to big? Has anyone else had sizing isuses?

[@liama-p8281]

I would like to see option c

[@DrReddit]

If you want to try the "Zoom Fly" without the carbon fiber plate, try to get your hands on a pair of Nike Vapor Streets, they're designed as the Vaporfly Elite but made with react foam without a carbon fiber plate.

[@clarkmurdock7812]

Just bought these from a Nike store for $40. Love the shoe

[@DRUMAdam91]

I picked up a pair of these before I got into running, does anyone know what this series is now? Is it just the zoom fly? Oh

[@gradymcginnis5057]

If you go to StockX there are plenty of flys and flyknits for very very cheap prices

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Wooohoo! Good to know!!! thanks

[@ThachPham2802]

I love the song from 2:00, but I don't know the name, would you please share with me?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

I’m not sure so long ago 😊

[@SkydelLP]

Option B is my pick 😊

[@stuartharkness8753]

Option B. Great idea for upcoming videos 👍🏽

[@charlesarguin5151]

Option B ! would be great video. How long did it take for the zoom fly flyknit to "break in" in your opinion?

[@rummie2693]

IMO, it depends on what you mean. It probably took 20-30 to "break-in" the upper. The shoe it self takes 40-50 to feel softer, but the midsole also feels appreciably harder at the start of runs for about 2-3 miles.

[@aaronleeman-smith9730]

You know it's B. PS - have you had a chance to lace up the S LAB Sonic 2's? Just in case you weren't settled on a marathon shoe ;-)

[@cl4ssic]

sooo these or the pegasus 36?

[@juliesparrow9829]

I go for option B

[@lostintravise]

what socks are these that youre wearing?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Stance

[@thepostalcadet253]

Option B please!