SETTING OUT #11 - How to SET UP Leica TS15. RESECTION program using Robotic Total Station.

[@SITENG]

One of us here is suggesting to level the tribrach first on the tripod before you put a Station on top. It sounds like a good idea for beginners, so if you are using the Station for first time it might be good to follow the practice before you get confidence.

[@engahmedhajifarascade5046]

Keep going absolutely incredible series lectures thank u sir . ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ u are my favourite serveyer.

[@SITENG]

Thanks, new videos coming soon :)

[@tonymaguire9498]

Have a wonderful day boss

[@SITENG]

Thanks Tony! You too!

[@kolaalade4921]

Beautiful Video. Well done👍

[@SITENG]

Thank you very much!

[@saheedademolalawal3365]

Very educative , thank you!

[@SITENG]

No problem, happy you like it 👍

[@gadourmoi995]

Thanks for the help

[@SITENG]

No problem

[@andre_5412]

Nice to watch and learn... carry on m8 👋 🙂

[@SITENG]

Thanks, will do!

[@engineeringconsulting4213]

Great Job Greg,keep it up!Can you do one video ,INTERPOLATET OPTION for a drainage plan?

[@SITENG]

Hi! I will do but not yet as I have plenty videos to do first :)

[@attaur-rahman7566]

Great Job very helpful video. please make a video in reference line with the level with Leica ts 15.

[@SITENG]

Happy you like it😁 There is a video about ref.line and if you want one with height you measure to line instead of just stake. I will try to do a video about it, but can't promise when 👍👍

[@skan1410]

Hi, When I save the data in to memory stick and transfer to CS10 controller it appears different coordinate. Do you know why? Please let me know if you can. Thanks

[@SITENG]

Strange, did you save it as dxf and configured the CS when bringing the data (m, mm etc)?

[@skan1410]

Yes, I have and I done more than 20 jobs with that instrument and only causing this issue on one site drawings.

[@SITENG]

try open new drawing, copy what you need, save and check again. Sometimes simple solutions work the best 😁

[@skan1410]

Ok I will, Thanks

[@samsonsunmola968]

Can u pls do video how to do pilling from the beginning to the end of the pilling

[@SITENG]

Hi Samson, please check my other vids, especially from 'construction site' series 😁

[@zeraimebrahtuhabtu226]

Brilliant ! it was indeed helpful. I have one question, where/what are the known reference points you used for the resection proceure? or is there another video that explains these points(reference points)? Thank you very much

[@SITENG]

Hi Zerai! Sorry for late answer. Very happy you like it. The set up is assuming the points are provided as in real life. In my day in the life video you can see how I set new targets as well. Typically the base reference points will be provided on site and then you will work your way setting new ones etc.

[@tonymaguire9498]

Hi good evening dude, the screen from the hand held device wasn't very visible and just clicking ok it was hard to see the coordinates

[@SITENG]

I'll try to do next ones like this more visible, but I have some vids with simulator where you can see these things better. I also trying to get the simulator download on my website :)

[@tonymaguire9498]

@@SITENG thanks dude

[@unda25]

very profesional i hope i restart work soon and this stuff help me to remember becaus i have very little experience . i have to use a simulator

[@SITENG]

Hi Fugitivo! Happy to help, wish you quick come back to work :)

[@souadadyounis9496]

How would simulator help I’m new on this job too

[@darkomilosavljevic]

Nice video Greg! Very good lesson on resection. One question for you. What's the longest distance for targets that you use when you are setting the TS and later for staking out points?

[@SITENG]

Hi Darko! Hard to say, but max. few hundreds meters. Depending on the job really, but typically I keep them closer if I can. Sometimes on surrounding buildings if there is a need. Distances from the station to stake out points are much smaller as I am setting the TS usually close to the points I am marking 😁

[@darkomilosavljevic]

@@SITENG Thanks!

[@_Rezyser]

Great Video! Could you please elaborate more how do you reference the site, according to global coordinates. Do you use any gps signal or benchmarks from website?

[@SITENG]

Thanks Lee! There will be more coming, so you will find all you need to know. I do not use GPS myself.

[@_Rezyser]

@@SITENG Can't wait for that video and how Gnss system works with total station. Do you use only Leica or any others?

[@SITENG]

Leica mostly, I worked with TOPCON&magnet field app before and it's really good too.

[@tonymaguire9498]

@@_Rezyser gnoss?

[@_Rezyser]

@@tonymaguire9498 gnss. good point I will correct it, ty for checking

[@unda25]

was nice to show how you create the CONTROL POINT , THE file actualy. where you can edit them ,, where you can add , what software do you recomend for this I LIKE YOU ARE VERY PROFESIONAL

[@SITENG]

Thank El Fugitivo! I will upload video from site soon where I am setting new targets, hope that's the one you want :)

[@Sephios33]

Nice video thank you very much. I'am an archaeologist and I need to use total station for axcavation and using such complicating machine is hard sometime.

[@SITENG]

Thanks. It's a matter of time really, but as it is not your main job you will be struggling bit longer. I hope my videos will help you :)

[@anthonyashurst3603]

Greg why did you set the instrument height at 0? Now your ‘station height’ is the height of collimation of the instrument and not the height at ground level below the instrument right?

[@SITENG]

Hi Anthony! Yes, that's what I want, the instrument height. Btw I am using retro targets with known heights so the EDM calculates it. You don't really want to change anything and actually make sure it is 0 :)

[@dulee999]

Do you know how to insert the road axle into the instrument? thanks

[@SITENG]

Sorry, I am not sure what exactly do you mean?

[@dulee999]

@@SITENG I need to enter the road axis from autocad into the instrument. do you know how to enter?

[@souadadyounis9496]

Nice video how do you set up totalstation using points with help of gps?

[@SITENG]

Thanks! I am not using GPS for setting up the station and can't really tell you 😊

[@tuanbui2954]

Can you setup resection on moving platform. If yes, please show me how to do? Thank you.

[@SITENG]

Hi Tuan! I am not sure what do you mean by that. If the platform is moving with all system and your station can be fixed and set up there it would be possible (Like set up in local grid where you are moving with the grid)

[@tuanbui2954]

@@SITENG I mean that we work on the moving platform, such as the vessel, all systems and the station be fixed. But I can't setup resection because instrument inform its coordinate is not accurate.

[@SITENG]

Hi! Sorry for late answer, I've never worked in the environment like this so I can't really help. There is still a chance that co-ordinates are not good. If you have your instrument set and than it ignores the movement (level changes) than it should be fine.

[@bhaveshpatel101]

Nice video.. Probably better quality to show display on the remote and total station.

[@SITENG]

Thanks for advice :) I will try to get better and better.

[@petercindere8095]

Hello Sir. I am an assistant to our surveyor. Just want to know if Leica TS30 has an Autoheight (instrument height) functionality? We are using Leica TS30, and our Lead Surveyor always enter the instrument height manually. I am not asking him about this because I feel he might get offended. Thanks a lot for the reply.

[@SITENG]

Definitely speak with him and speak about everything. I did no use Leica TS30 and do you mean while using a resection? I don't get the entering the instrument height, but that depends what method you are using to set up a TS

[@antoniofranciscofnasciment544]

Olá amigo tudo bem eu gostaria de adquirir uma estação total dessa tem como você mim ajudar nessa compra

[@SITENG]

Ola Antonio! Sorry, but can't speak Portugese yet :) I hope you liked it.

[@antoniofranciscofnasciment544]

@@SITENG olá amigo eu não falo inglês mais gostaria de adquirir uma estação total laica

[@TheMrasimqureshi]

Greg. Another fine video and congratulations. Just couple of points as below. 1: If you set the Height of the Total Station to zero then the coordinate of the set station does not give the level of the ground you are standing on. Or does it not matter. If you now survey the ground around you with the laser or the prism then you are still recording the true level of the target area because the instrument is using the height as set form the resection target station. Please confirm that this is the case. That you are recording the height of the instrument from the resection and not the level of the ground. 2: The prism set for resection is an open laser on tape or flat surface. Please confirm as you was too fast for me to catch it. 3: Could you have set the resection set-up from the Total Station instead of from the Controller. 4: What is the maximum value of the discrepancy or the quality value of the resection acceptable on TS15. Is is under 4mm maximum or much shorter then this. Please confirm.

[@SITENG]

Hi Asim! 1. Station is based on targets height and is the 'real' height of the instrument so whatever you're measuring edm shows you correct height of it. 2. For resection I am using reflectorless and then 'tape', but sometimes 'surface' as well when edm can't read the retro target. Constant is the same for both, but if possible I am setting target as what I really measure. 3. Yes, you can, as I said in one of my last videos some people setting station first keeping the control job in the instrument and than connecting with robotic keeping the working jobs there. It depends entirely on you really, I just got used to use robotic from the start :) 4. This depends on you really and on the job you're doing. If for instance you are to roughly mark area for your future works to know how to plan the job it might be even 10mm, but if doing setting out for the construction elements I am keeping this within 3mm. I personally think more than 5mm error shows that the base targets are not 100% right which might cause problems later as each transfer of these brings more error. I hope above answers your questions Asim :) All the best! Greg

[@TheMrasimqureshi]

@@SITENG Excellent. Thank you very much.

[@sasasaran2210]

is it bad when our quality control is Y=0.005 X=0.004 H=0.002 new orientation 0 00 33"

[@SITENG]

poor TBH, who set it? Can you get something better? Are you sure it will be actually ar. 5mm? As always depends what you’re doing and what accuracy and tolerances you work to, but I go with 3mm max and typically have height max 1mm. Maybe you cant shoot the targets correctly? Targets distribution is not the best?

[@sasasaran2210]

@@SITENG the targets were set using the GPS method and were then observed by the total station. this is probably the reason for that result

[@sasasaran2210]

@@SITENG It is about staking out the slab of a small object, and only so that the builder of the object can easily determine the exact angles of the object

[@mahengineering4935]

Nice Video. Just subbed! Where do you stand on metal tripods Vs. timber tripods? I just worry that the total station is too heavy and it can become unlevel - but this may just be me being paranoid :D:D

[@SITENG]

Thanks! I definitely prefer proper heavy wooden tripods, but whatever tripod it is, it has to be set right :)

[@theboycalledleaf]

I appreciate that we all do it from time to time, however, please level your tribrach with the instrument in the box. When fairly level, now place the instrument in the tribrach and fine adjust. There are people out there that will be lifting and dropping tripod legs with an instrument on top. It's a very expensive recipe for disaster. I was always taught this and teach it to any juniors I work with.

[@SITENG]

Hi! I won't be doing this way, but if you like it why not :) In general instrument has to be set in 'safest' place possible and this extra minute for levelling won't change much. I appreciate your advice and recommend all you guys try it and see how do you prefer to work :)

[@theboycalledleaf]

@@SITENG "if you like it why not"? I told you why not. After 28 years in the field, I would not do this. Don't be idle, level your tribrach first, then put the instrument on. You're encouraging someone to topple a tripod over that wasn't level and has an expensive instrument on the top. Why encourage people to be gentle with the instrument when you're encouraging bad practice?

[@SITENG]

​@@theboycalledleaf​I didn't get you first, you mean the beginner engineers? You might be right actually for the people without any experience - I'll pin the comment :) First of all I am teaching to set the tripod quite level so you don't need to move the legs really, but I admit this is a good idea and thank you for this - good practice for beginner (although sometimes they have more problems with taking the tribrach on and off and I am afraid of them dropping the instrument before it's installed ;) Thank you again and I hope we will get more comments like yours so we can all get better!