Setup LONG RANGE Sight Tapes // the breakdown..

[@Carywilliford]

That’s one of the most informative videos I’ve seen. I’m new to archery and honestly didn’t realize there were so many factors. Mind blowing.. I thought you just practiced a lot and had a good anchor point. And do everything the same. You guys are great and thanks for all the videos.

[@GBBLGBL]

I REALLY like the new intro and graphics!! - Onalaska, WI

[@ElkShape]

Thank you!!! I might have impressed producer Tim with that as well haha! -DS

[@bobvautour5207]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Dan! you have given me the ABT confidence, and my setup has changed substantially, my accuracy and consistency has become reliable even out past 100 yrds. I can now comfortably take smaller game like rabbits and grouse on my property, And gives me tons of confidence on moose and whitetails. the freezer will be full this year.

[@ElkShape]

Glad to help!

[@IronSharpensIron127]

My black gold 4 pin will be arriving today. I really wish I had a shop that could help me become a great archer. But atleast you are pointing me in the right direction. Thanks for the help brother.

[@ElkShape]

Thanks for the support! -DS

[@richarddean3154]

Thank you for the informative video. I really respect how you tell the viewer what you shoot and then tell them that they can shoot what they prefer - "you do you". That is a sign of confidence and a great attitude to have. Thanks again.

[@ElkShape]

Confidence is earned! Thanks for the support! -DS

[@DC-vx6ed]

Love your content. Just a simple everyday guy that is passionate about bow hunting. FOC is very important especially those longer shots. Play around with different FOC % for yourself, you'll see like we have. Worth your time. Didn't hunt lit arrow nocks because it changed my FOC%... Next year will have time to add these to my setup. 👍 Keep practicing everyone.

[@PrivilegedBowhunter]

Nice, I did a similar video a couple of weeks ago walking step by step through Archers Advantage!

[@RobertWilliams82-22]

Btw, in my black gold sight, I like my 3 pins in the bottom half of the housing.... my top tip is in the center....at the moment, my top pin is my slider and I can get 100 yards out of it easily even with a 420 grain arrow at 68#’s.... the pins being lower in my housing and my top pin being what I use the most helps me have a more clean picture.... just what I do.

[@ElkShape]

YEP!!! It's a great way to extend range! -DS

[@bretthall7438]

I love all the tinkering videos. I would like to see a clocking video

[@rogerlor64]

All these videos are helpful to me from Fond du lac, WI

[@keithtompkins1088]

Omg. I just got a UV slider and sight tape issue insanity. Revolt x80 on performance. Sight tape issues for 2 weeks and finally hammering my whitetail distances and practicing from at 70-80 yards. Now to dial in my form with longer ranges.

[@ashleysmith4191]

Wish more folks would advocate at 450-500gr setup, those weights really are the happy medium for everything in North America.

[@ElkShape]

That's what I have found to work for me as well! -DS

[@kinyon86]

Man I’ve learn so many things so far that I would have never thought of. I’ll have less then a month when I get home to put this all together and see if I can’t get it done this year. I learned a lot last year being my first time ever hunting with a bow. So glad there are people like you willing to share your knowledge.

[@ElkShape]

Thanks for the support! -DS

[@CJMSCHOONOVER]

Montana Black Gold is on my plan for my Diamond SB-1. Goal is to get all my quality accessories on my starter bow and transfer over when I can afford a pro bow! 🏹🏹🏹 thanks for all the content 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼

[@ElkShape]

Thanks for the support! -DS

[@juanrodriguez-mu7ko]

Awesome thank you for sharing this, I’m trying to learn. I’m a newbie I’ve watched most of your videos and love them all. I’m learning a lot but this sight tape thing is confusing. But I’ll figure it out. I’m new new like really new but thanks 🙏🏽.

[@outsidersmv4867]

Such good content, thanks, Dan. If anything, confirmed my decision to stick with my Spot Hogg SDP for a bit longer until I have the time to explore, test and ABT the dial and tape set up. Thanks!

[@stevenanderson5473]

Good video. I am about to put a new tape on my bow and get ready to shoot the R100 shoot. Thanks for the knowledge

[@JG-cc4ql]

As always never disappointed! Keep it up guys!

[@nmgreg11]

Awesome !! Now time to shoot.

[@tanneranderson3634]

I've been at work for 1 hour and already have been convinced to buy something by you.

[@ElkShape]

haha - thanks for the support! -DS

[@coltonkniprath2767]

Yes I would definitely like to watch one on clocking arrows

[@ElkShape]

Roger -DS

[@scottdill9393]

I’m shooting 495g arrow to 120 and still have room left to slide. Guess having 34” draw helps with that

[@ElkShape]

lucky!!! -DS

[@timbow50]

One thing you referred to that is so very often overlooked- shooting the bow multiple days ( if possible at all). Nearly everyone has better days on the range than others. You gotta be honest with yourself that your marks are as "dead nuts" as possible. This is especially true for like 3-d or field for shooting scores. But in final analysis YOU HAVE TO KNOW that arrow is going to hit 100% behind the pin. CONFIDENCE in your equipment is paramount to success!!!!! Great video again 🤛

[@caninphx]

I'd also suggest doing this siting in right off the bat on your shooting days so your not getting fatigued/etc.

[@mtnphysio1440]

Great video man! We have nearly the same set up bow, arrows, vanes, iron will components, draw length etc. Its solid!!!

[@robertfazekas4607]

Hi Dan!! I'm a newbie, just asking, it's better to experiment couple of arrows, weight, spine, etc, or better to use one if I find the right one and get used to it, and I will know exactly how it is flies, In any weather condition. That's my thinking. Right, or wrong, I don't know. Great channel!! Kind regards: Robert from Hungary.

[@westonarmendariz947]

Been experimenting to find my sight tape too.. just released a video about it actually! Super hard to get a new sight dialed in with a bunch of wind... freakin killer. One thing I really need to figure out is how my arrows fly, maybe my vanes have too much helical or maybe i need less vanes (3 instead of 4.) fun stuff to ABT!!

[@ElkShape]

#ABT -DS

[@mikeguy9668]

I'm very interested in the archers advantage tape

[@calibowhunter1998]

Since I hit you up last I invested in archers advantage. Going to be doing more fine tuning with it. I can most likely only get 120 out of my sight before contact though.

[@ElkShape]

NICE CALI!!!! -DS

[@fordschwisow5946]

You can shoot lighted nocks in Idaho this year

[@ericwiitala5407]

I primarily hunt elk, bear, deer and antelope in CO and interested in getting a 3 pin slider. 30/40/50 with slider. Great information. I'm also am building custom arrows this year (also going with the 5mm Axis Match, 300 spine and inserts/collars, with the AAE Max vanes). We'll see what shoots best (hoping to be somewhere around 565-600 gr). Then when I go through that process with my arrows, then I'll think about getting a slider sight.

[@ElkShape]

Awesome! #ABT -DS

[@WildTines]

After 9 minutes in.... Coffee sounds pretty good right now. I’m gonna start training with the pie plate method TODAY 🤟🏼

[@ElkShape]

Coffee is LIFE -DS

[@niss63]

What an informative video! Subscribed

[@africanbornadventures]

Hi. Just wondering with your 3 pin why you like to have them situated so high in the housing, for a long range setup? Surely you going to run out of scope clearance sooner than necessary? I set my roving pin just above the bubble and move the others above it to their respective yardages. Another added benefit is it allows my point of focus not to move too much when squaring up the bubble. Just a suggestion, like you said, “you do you”. Thanks for the regular content 👍🏻

[@ElkShape]

Yep - I have them set-up for idea 40 and under sight picture since that's where I plan on being in on critters, but yes dropping them down will extend range if need be, I can get out to 120 with my V3 31 so I dig it! -DS

[@spc717]

Awesome video. Great information. Thx 🙏.

[@bzbcustoms4520]

Thanks man great video love your channel great great info

[@ElkShape]

Thanks my friend!

[@logantaylor933]

How do you make sure you are getting enough arrow clearance from your sight housing when you dial that sight tape down?

[@johnnewcomb5162]

Put your housing up high and your sight pins low in the housing as close to the bubble level . If you want to get the most distance. My sight goes to 135 yards. His sight is setup the opposite.

[@skeetsmeed5358]

I have been messing with fletch distance on my setup. New to me, Mathews v3 27, 27.5 draw, 28" shafts (I like a little overhang for my fixed broadheads). My question is how far foward is the back of your fletching from the back of your shaft. I use a Boeing single fletch which is why I ask.

[@myronriggs9613]

Very good video! I’m learning so much from you and mfjj

[@ElkShape]

Thanks G!

[@cameronhead4086]

How do they work as a 3 pin is 2 fixed and one adjustable for the slide tape

[@jimmyjones2426]

Check out the alignment of the orange vanes at 13:19. Spending big dollars on .001” shafts, sight tape software, spinning arrows etc. to fletch an arrow like that hurts my head. In your experience, does this effect accuracy? I’m always learning and I’m interested in your opinion so please take this comment as it was intended. Thanks

[@chrispadham369]

Excellent video!

[@stephenmarcinkiewicz]

How do you get such an aggressive helical? I’m using a left helical bitz and if I go that extreme I lose contact at the tip of the vanes. Is it because of the small diameter shaft? Should I be shimming the shaft in the jig to bring it closer to the clamp?

[@ElkShape]

AZ EZ fletch

[@craignagao3719]

Great tips 🙏

[@andrewhernaman3782]

Listening to a podcast today... i own many leather bound books 😂 hilarios

[@markbarefield7570]

What about sight on bow and pin setup? Setup higher or lower for each?

[@nicholaswarwick9580]

I’ve always just used a right helical...... but may need to look into clocking and changing things up. Definitely love to see a vid on that. Also I have the UNO app that I use for getting my tapes close, is archers advantage better? Keep up the good work brother

[@ElkShape]

I think archer's advantage is probably the best that I have found! -DS

[@AZHighlandHomestead]

Love the Chemex! We roast our own coffee. It’s better than anything else we’ve tried.

[@YITSOG]

Appreciate the help

[@elibush8243]

Really good info!

[@skyfireblaze]

How much does your bow weigh in its hunting configuration? How does total bow weight factor into your build decisions and shoot-ability?

[@ElkShape]

I don't know - guessing 8-9lbs - weight doesn't matter to me, confidence does! -DS

[@rballinger86]

I just got my 1st adjustable 3 pin sight. I'm also thinking about shooting some heavier arrows this year. Should I hold off on getting the sight dialed in until I have the new arrow setup too? I have to imagine that arrow weight, length, etc. Is going to have an impact on what sight tape I need.

[@ElkShape]

wait for arrows for sure -DS

[@zwiefel12]

Good video however are your arrow weights accurate? Especially the 300 axis. 26" arrow length x 10.7gpi = 278 plus the 225 in the tip = 503 plus 8gn nock, plus 27gn fletchings is like 538 total grains. The only reason I caught this is because I wanted to do this exact set up with my axis but it ended up heavier than I wanted it to be. So I went with a different arrow with a lighter weight GPI. Cause like you I want my arrows in that 460-480ish range. TRex arms over here so can't have too heavy of an arrow if I want to get some distance out of it ha

[@ElkShape]

Arrow weights are correct, lengths might be off in the video cuz I didn't have it written down while filming, but again, the one made for Idaho is 485 grains total weight, 454 grains for the one I have been using the last two seasons, and the one for the V3 27 is 445 grains. -DS

[@zwiefel12]

@@ElkShape Cool! That makes sense. I'm sitting at 470 right now and finding for me that gives me enough weight, FOC, and arrow speed for a good all around set up for elk.

[@angief1671]

Good info. Have you played with the rx 4 leupold rangefinder yet.

[@ElkShape]

I work exclusively with Vortex Optics so no. -DS

[@caninphx]

It's fantastic, especially the angle compensation. Still keep the cut tables.i. Your head or on your bow so you can check. I don't trust anything electronic as they mess up. Just a good idea to verify if it makes sense

[@elkchaser]

Sweet coffee screen! Dig me some BRC!

[@ElkShape]

BRCC!!!!! Thanks bro! -DS

[@Eric-bh7jy]

How do you get the left helical with AZ ez fletch? All of the jigs they make are 6 degree right helical according to their info?

[@ElkShape]

Hey Eric, we have left helicals on the elkshape website if that's what you're looking for! -DS

[@SouthMississippiSalt]

Yes ... do clocking arrows . I

[@ElkShape]

Roger! -DS

[@mr.mathews6485]

Is that a marsupial Bono harness? How do you like if?

[@flee4170]

I’m only a 26” DL at #65lbs. About 400gr total weight arrow. I’m trying to set up a specific bow for 3D and TAC. Do you think I can get 100yds plus with a black gold single pin or is a multi pin better to get me out there ?

[@jasondukette4155]

I keep looking for the elk shape vanes but still out of stock when are they comming back really want some

[@ElkShape]

Back in stock -DS

[@jasondukette4155]

@@ElkShape already got it coming I got the green pink and the sunset orange probley do another order just to have on stock

[@frankspataro9714]

I shoot two fixed and one adjustable a twenty five that I shoot thirty and under a forty a my adjustable is at fifty until I need it else where hunting bow setup is my only bow for elk I considered just having a forty lol

[@ElkShape]

copy that! -DS

[@adamvisser9815]

When you cut your arrow don't that remove weight? I get what your saying about your foc on the video. With that being said don't you want punch power (aka) weight? I feel that your videos are vary Knowledgeable and I really appreciate them.

[@alecrobertson2283]

Yes it makes them weigh a little less but it also makes them more accurate and stiffer. That’s why he uses the inserts to make up for whatever weight he wants to

[@canadianhalon6812]

Do you think you'll try out the new spotthogg triple stack?

[@ElkShape]

Perhaps! -DS

[@drewmalcovsky9068]

What size peep are you running?

[@SoSwiff]

Where do I get those weighted arrow sleeves?

[@ElkShape]

Ironwill Outfitters

[@levonstilson9032]

I thought spot hog didn’t have first axis adjustment?

[@ElkShape]

Not really that I have found. -DS

[@alecparsons4825]

Recently switched to shooting a spot Hogg fast Eddie and got sited in but the farthest I can shoot is 82 yds before running out of movement with the dial. Any advice to fix this without switching arrows or upping poundage my bow is already maxed at 70lbs? Moving the dovetail out or in, moving the scope up or down on the rail, etc?

[@stevetallo6381]

I ran into the same problem. Any advice on this yet?

[@alecparsons4825]

@@stevetallo6381 had a little luck with moving the dove tail in farther I had a couple people tell me that I could try moving my peep up or down the string a little but I haven’t tried that.

[@dargo1183]

What kind of fletching jig do you use

[@ElkShape]

AZ EZ Fletch MaxMini -DS

[@scottkaercher1733]

I like a 1 pin slider.

[@kyledreher1535]

Not getting anything done unless it's done early in the am with some fresh grounds!!👌

[@ElkShape]

Preach! -DS

[@deagenhuey9262]

He should try an accutouch carbon pro from axcel

[@ElkShape]

'He' being me...not afraid to tinker haha! -DS

[@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures]

I use a copenhagen can for group size

[@ElkShape]

GANGSTER! -DS

[@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures]

@@ElkShape for me at least if I can put 5 arrows in it at 60 yds . 20 to 50 is a breeze . Can't wait to practice out to 80 and further this year doing the same thing

[@mustang268]

@@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures I did that before but since I quit chew I now use coke and Gatorade caps lol

[@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures]

@@mustang268 haven't shot at those I use to use golf tees back in the day but smack it good and they go inside the target

[@alecrobertson2283]

What’s getting the sight tape “doped up” mean? Haha

[@collingrogan7242]

Data on personal equipment

[@gillesregnery9692]

A bear killer ? Erk ! 😵

[@coltonstegeman4469]

ABT!

[@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music]

HHA is dead on with their tapes.

[@Gibbs-Bijan-moon]

Tapes are all made off of the same software 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ElkShape]

I think most tapes from sight companies are printed via archer's advantage -DS

[@Gibbs-Bijan-moon]

@@ElkShape yup everyone is

[@WesIncredible]

Can I just take a moment to laugh how I have the EXACT same coffee set up?? Killer video man

[@RobertWilliams82-22]

It is very sad that you had you say “for practice” right after you said go shoot long distances in the beginning of this video... but I completely understand why you did, these keyboard warriors would have came out the wood works to crucify you about how unethical it is.... but dude, KEEP THESE VIDEOS COMING BRO!!! Dan is the MAN!!!!! And Tim is a BOSS!!! I like how relatable y’all are (besides me being a fat a$$ cowboy bahahahahahahaha) keep hustling bro!!!

[@ElkShape]

Thanks for the support! -DS

[@bucktalk69]

Have you had any vane clearance issues with the hamski and high profile vanes ?!!

[@michaeljessop5061]

I shoot a hamskea trinity with max stealth vanes and have never had a problem.

[@ElkShape]

Yes with the AAE Max Hunters at super long distances. -DS