Sex Pistols - interview for Countdown (Australia), Nov 1977

Paul Cook & Steve Jones interviewed by Australia's Ian "Molly" Meldrum for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's pop show Countdown, November 1977. Malcolm McLaren can be seen lurking in the background. Paul & Steve were given Foster's Lager to drink whilst being interviewed.
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[@avelinosilvadias]

The quality of this 43 year old video is unbelievably good 😎

[@squarejawpublishing]

ABC

[@oldgamerevival6019]

squarejawpublishing DEF

[@jonnydavies6968]

That's cos it's probably 16mm film.

[@somethingelse4878]

Film

[@leej70]

Because it was recorded on film. Just before everything was recorded on shitty video tape.

[@ThatFilmisGnarly]

that necklace and red coat makes Steve Jones looks like an italian grandma.

[@nobody53535]

What kind of Brainburn are you?🤘

[@liamoshea1332]

I bet you wouldn't say that to his face, he'd punch your lights out matey. You ever met any of these guys I'm real life? If you did you wouldn't come out with a DUMB comment like that...

[@simonedwards5564]

STEVE JONES OF THE PISTOLS/ MICK JONES OF THE CLASH/ ITS WEIRD HOW THE TWO GIANTS OF PUNKS NAME'S WERE PARRELEL EACH OTHER!!!!!! JOHN LYDON/;JOHN MELLOR SIMON# JOHN RITCHIE_(PAUL) SIMMONON# STEVE IS AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND ,WITH BALLS OF STEEL WHEN JOHNNY ROTTEN WAS GETTING PHYSICALLY BEATEN UP AND STABBED ,AND PAUL COOK AND SID ,,,,,,,,, WELL, STEVE WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IT STILL SMASHED TUNES OUT LIKE FRIGGIN IN THE RIGIN ,OH YOU SILLY THING,NO ONE IS INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!! LEGEND 🤣😂!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LONDON CALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER MIND THE BOL#%¢KS 💥👌😎💘☠️👍👍

[@anemaldemomusic8182]

He is an Italian grandma except he's from England...

[@sirmoanalot3779]

He makes the greatest meatballs in Italia

[@guitarofdestiny]

I like how Steve looks at Paul with amusement and respect. Totally different atmosphere when the other two aren't around. It's nice too see. Its still the same way when Paul goes on Steve's radio show too, the two of them together is always really funny

[@GrayearlDubstep]

I mean they did grow up together

[@jokimaguire5045]

Your bang on this is a far better interview without john he wanted to b the centre of attention. Although he was the singer he was brought in to the group by these two.it worked out pretty well

[@benpotaka5893]

Probably because Steve and Paul actually respected each other

[@rabbieburns2501]

Steve managing to look 35 years old at 22

[@desertrose1226]

He even acts old, he acts 45!! Can’t believe he’s only 22 here !

[@jgreen8220]

Like todays men then, who look awful.

[@SuperStrik9]

Jonesy and Cooky are true legends as far as I'm concerned. They were the musical backbone of The Pistols.

[@McFinnigan]

Yeh but Glen wrote all the songs

[@Mr75044]

Super strike..your right....very underrated as a rock outfit.. Who else as ever got that heavy wall of sound out of a fender twin....

[@carltroia6235]

foo man 70 lots of over dubbing on guitar

[@pigknickers2975]

not true though. It was Matlock and Rotten really. It was Matlock that got that sound with lots of overdubbing of the same lines. Cook is not a bad drummer and had his moment but I don't think they are the backbone. They were great mates, like something out of Fagin's gang....

[@JohnSmith-kz8yo]

@@pigknickers2975 Yup Matlock wrote the music and Lydon wrote the lyrics...

[@SynthJohn]

I hope Cookie writes a book, because i'd love get his side. Jonesy's book is brilliant.

[@davehoward22]

It is a good book...Funny when he goes on about his invisible cloak and his peeping tom shennanigans... " remember then holes you used to see in womans bogs? ..that was me, well, not all of them"😄 its the frankest, most honest autobiography you'll ever read. .

[@Brewzerr]

Paul is the only one who hasn't written a book (unless you count Sid). I have all 4 books (Glen's, Lydon's 2, and now Jonesy's), and they all provide different insights giving a much more well-rounded account as a whole. Yes, it's Paul's turn.

[@jonnyjackson6050]

Just read Steve's book, it is an eye-opener.

[@philipholmes5884]

My old band did a gig with Steve in '83 ! Great fun he was...type in "The Nothings and Steve Jones" if you're interested ! Cheers !

[@jasonmisfit5781]

@@philipholmes5884 I think he jammed with the Runaways also

[@Tuning_Spork]

Paul Cook. The cutest punk who ever lived.

[@voyeurcoma638]

If he's the cutest Jonesy was definitely the hottie

[@baronsaturday9560]

*JThunderstoo*

[@firstandlastswagman269]

Drug adicks

[@marsoblivi0n945]

First and Last swagman what the hell is drug adick? Haha

[@bellasue02]

@joe buffalo ol

[@scatterkatjatzen1655]

The Sex Pistols lasted a short time, but their legacy was a huge influence to the evolution of music as it was during the late 1970s, will forever be remembered.

[@Scotty-P]

Innovation.

[@SteveRes]

extraordinary clip, amazing quality too, thanks for the upload!

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

Brilliant to see 'em having a laugh with eachother.Pure telly gold.

[@starvingbuddha7622]

You can totally see the bond they had

[@MichaelTaylor-rz4wm]

Love this interview. Classic!!

[@citizen1163]

One of the most honest interviews ever!

[@amp279]

I get the feeling Malcolm's lurking because he's afraid of the boys being asked how their lives have changed due to their success & the royalties coming in, & the boys replying "What royalties..?" Then you see Malcolm, "Damn - they're onto me about all the money i'm nicking..." & sprinting out the back door. Lol.

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

"Shout out to my mate Danny-he's on the run".The cheeky look on Paul's face as he said it was priceless!

[@christopherdale8201]

Good to see the band members point of view because out of all the other members Johnny,Glen,steve,Sid and Paul cook,that is you don't here what paul has to say and paul is one of the best punk drummers of all time

[@jaford2]

@13:07 "[My mum] likes 'No Fun' the best" LOL!!! 😁

[@kimrunic5874]

Looking back on it you realise that the way they came across was much more thought-about and considered than it seemed at the time

[@bradpittiful7288]

first ive seen this...thanks for posting it!

[@likkidixx]

Wow, never seen this before! Thanks!

[@kronossonork6994]

Steve is now one of the best interviewers on KZbin

[@Irisplove]

Malcolm lurking in the background like a Situationist Vampire.

[@brubeck1]

yeah but "anarchy in the uk" ,did john really think of that , sounds like something Malcolm might have put in his head.just a thought.

[@jonnyjackson6050]

@@brubeck1 People still trying to rewrite Sex Pistols history.

[@jonnyjackson6050]

@Noble Failures ok

[@jonnyjackson6050]

@Noble Failures Sorry, not interested. Its just more conspiracy garbage. Read Steve Jones book Lonely Boy if you want to know how punk happened.

[@jonnyjackson6050]

@Noble Failures you're an idiot and insulting every punk who was part of the movement from 76 onwards.

[@garywebster3585]

John had the talent as proved by PIL. These two are nice lads aving a larf. Jonesy has'nt changed as his radio presenter gig shows.

[@kenmcvittie3584]

Steve is a great guitarist with an instantly recognisable sound.

[@thevelointhevale1132]

Lydon is not present at the interview because just before this he had flicked a lit cigarette at the Camera Man in a pub when the band were approached and Molly jumped across the table and punched Lydon in the face ... true story.

[@RogueBoyScout]

From what I have read/seen about Molly, he was a man who wasn't afraid of a bit of biffo..... Love the guy, Countdown was my youth...

[@thevelointhevale1132]

It was mine also ...

[@MindsetMastery75]

@cafe del casual 89 They were the "sound" of the Sex Pistol's but don't get it twisted. Johnny Rotten was the voice of the Pistols.

[@djanitatiana]

@cafe del casual 89 Lol, John would have loved Molly trying to bitch slap him, probably just wondering if those fingers were washed since they were up Elton's arsehole.

[@redoz9768]

@@RogueBoyScout he was gay and he harnessed a lot of anger.

[@stuartsutherbaker]

Never understood why Paul didn't sing much, really enjoyed listening to Silly Thing

[@amp279]

Agree, it's one of their more catchy tunes, but when he started the Pisols, apparently he wasn't comfortable being lead singer, so after several name changes & with the help of Viv & Malcolm on the lookout, they eventually came upon Johnny.

[@johnswinburn8528]

Pure comedy - good questions though, one of Molly's better interviews, he handled them well

[@janlis001]

Simply Theater!!!.....Paul Cook was really cool on that interview...And still is....

[@fabiopunk1661]

8:03 this comment holds true for many things in this damn world

[@MaleficusMonocerus89]

They still have the attitude, but I do think these were the two nicest guys in the band, that's my opinion lol

[@Noodles37UK]

Funniest. Cook and Jones actually had more charisma to me than Lydon did. Lydon had a hell of a lot of charisma, so hopefully you can see my point.

[@ROOKTABULA]

Doubtin Thomas Yeah. You watch Jonsey's Jukebox on here and you see he's not to knowledgeable on much of anything.

[@jemima216]

Paul Cook's my favourite.

[@baronsaturday9560]

John. Johnny.

[@Crucifuxrecords]

They are the only two and true "Sex Pistols"...

[@biagiopianta2264]

Paul Cook and Matlock per sempre!! Anarchy Will beat🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷🧷

[@lizzietheheretic7831]

Very entertaining...good quality video...thanks 👍

[@falica77]

Refreshing to hear from Paul and Steve instead of John. Nothing against John. Or Glen or Sid for that matter.

[@jadeshannon5583]

Paul is the best here to interview

[@jonesy2111]

Keeping it real... these guys are great

[@Thesortvokter]

Steve Jones, thanks for the riffs that changed the world of music

[@petelawrie6310]

Chris Spedding wrote a lot of them

[@Thesortvokter]

@@petelawrie6310 Well, has he claimed so himself? I see Steve Jones denies it.

[@slashtrio]

Let’s thanks Johnny thunders too. Steve definitely borrowed a few licks.

[@redmenace1135]

This is a fucking gem quality footage! Never ever seen it before. Thanks a lot for posting. They were nasty, mean and they didn't give a shit!

[@fradiavolo11]

To me they just look two working class kids, a bit naive, obviously angry, posing for the cameras, most likely having a lot of fun. I don't see them nasty and mean at all, just a lot of tough guy pretence.

[@desertrose1226]

Paul Cook was certainly not mean. I think Jonesy could be. And he was a real ladies man he screwed anything that moved.

[@charleslipscomb9097]

John and Sid got most of the attention because of their ridiculous stage names. Steve and Paul have such ordinary sounding names they got overlooked quite a lot, which is a shame because they were both talented and funny in their own right.

[@zaxxx1975]

steves always a fashion queen ... !!!

[@SuperBeanson]

Paul seems much more balanced and mature here

[@callithowiseeit5806]

Jonesy looking like a middle-aged woman in that get-up

[@benpotaka5893]

Jonesy was a lad, a tough guy, he didn't give a shit, guy had balls compared to a lot of his compatriots

[@johnoleary8751]

It was ramone pufters with their long lochs who looked like a bunch of women.

[@rorogogo6241]

@@benpotaka5893 and he had no tattoos at that time, no need ;-)

[@AnglOsAxOn2]

This was filmed a day before my 12th birthday, I do remember the Grundy interview very well.

[@smashdalde9713]

The pistols make me smile,always have..

[@drstevie]

Great footage !!

[@r.o7897]

Paul never seemed to have the same ego problems like Steve and Johnny. And never seemed out of his mind on drugs or alcohol either. Would love for him to write his memoirs, I think he saw things more clear and "as" they were.

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

Very good comment.Paul has always seemed more level headed,and as you say-without the ego.Top lad.

[@matthewdenham3248]

I've listened to it Paul and it's fantastic and I have Bollocks on tape and digital media

[@jamo5468]

“We don’t care about the Queen she don’t give a fuck about us”!!!

[@Danimal77]

Steve's West London accent was stronger back then.

[@hyena131]

1:08 - "'Oo wiv?" Made me laugh. Cook such a little White City/Shepherd's Bush toerag here.

[@stanislavjohn6156]

steve jones hairstyle just like my mums at the same time

[@waynedaly100]

wOW, GREAT VID, JUUST WHEN I THOUGH ID SEEN IIT ALL, FANTASTIC

[@Hannahxx1971]

For a split second, when I first saw the thumbnail pic, I wondered what Edwina Curry had to do with The Sex Pistols.....! :D

[@nickbaker3588]

The noise of the birds. You don’t get that anymore in London

[@topopops]

Nick Baker true, use to have tons of sparrows in my Hackney garden in the early 90’s.. would be woken up by the little buggers.. hardly ever hear a bird these days..

[@ronanrogers4127]

Sad, but true

[@JohnSmith-kz8yo]

Animals everywhere are dying..they can't stand all the noise of the 21st century...

[@fooman65]

Nick Baker be less when 5g hits.

[@hypergiantferocity3256]

Nick Baker Globalism.

[@Mrpublicimagelimited]

Nah, Steve's just drunk here. He didn't start messing around with heroin till after the Pistols. By his own admission he spent most of the time during the Pistols drunk. ;)

[@michmetps52]

one of the best bands ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and truthful, no LOOK AT ME I'M GOD shite, just here for the money and a laugh!! which is what music should be

[@ronniechilds2002]

I agree 1000%. At the time they came along, rock music had gotten out of hand with its pretentiousness. These cats came along and added some life back into it.

[@JohnSmith-rk6jy]

Nevermind the Bollocks was/is Awesome! These two freakin Rule. Rotten was perfect for that album. But can’t stand him or anything he’s done since. These two are the real deal.

[@williamwilliam5066]

Such innocence compared to today. Life turns in big circles and they, like us, are just products of time and history

[@craigeyler4495]

Australian media came to London to interview them. The band did say they would like to include Australia on their next big tour (that never happened).

[@lto2699]

I’m over 30 but public burps still make me laugh like I’m under 5

[@erowal1]

The most intellectual interview out there 😂

[@ROOKTABULA]

4:53 Director: "Okay, switch to the reverse camera angle and we'll put a pube on the lense."

[@johnpineapple3329]

Haha. When I was a boy Jonny and Sid were my favourite Pistols. Now I see things differently.

[@carsonking5549]

'Coke, coke, coke, coke, coke' everything going through Steves mind.

[@filipematias5127]

More like speed, speed, speed, speed...

[@topopops]

Filipe Matias Coke,speed,coke,speed,coke,speed.. SMACK

[@Brewzerr]

H was right around the corner.

[@topopops]

Brewzerr The horse was brown

[@painiscupcake5433]

@@filipematias5127 birds, birds, birds, birds The other kind of bird that is

[@stevenanderson2104]

2 great guy's

[@JohnSmith-su3ze]

12:50 "What do your mum and dad think?" "I haven't seen my parents for about 4 years" hahahaa

[@williamwilliam5066]

Good interviewer indeed

[@stephenhathaway269]

Likeable lads

[@iain79]

I can't stop laughing at this their attitudes are amazing

[@bjscorpio4041]

They did make it to Australia ... in 1996.

[@roterfuchs8201]

Sid Vicious ending up with that leather jacket, nerd fact for you.

[@innitmate2198]

Roter Fuchs seems as tho they all wore each other’s clothes. the “i hate pink floyd” shirt rotten was wearing when they auditioned him there’s also pictures of cookie and jones wearing it, and also sids ripped up tanktop with the cowboy with his cock out, jones also wore that occasionally. and the “Destroy” shirt with the swastika from the god save the queen video they’ve all worn it at least once

[@julialovesnancy81]

really? that’s really cool!

[@roterfuchs8201]

@@julialovesnancy81 If you look at photographs of Sid wearing a studless leather it will say STEVE above the front pocket, even nerdier fact.

[@krisscanlon4051]

Jones and Cook went right from authority figures in their life to jokingly defending their lives. Argh such constant questions even from da lovely Molly Meldrum.

[@oldskoolpaul89]

Steve Jones cracks me up especially on Jonesys jukebox his radio slot in Los Angeles subscribe if you haven't he has some great guests (legends) and his having the time of his life. great watch one of my favorite shows

[@Wanker59]

Fosters Lager. The Aussie beer that no Aussie ever drank.

[@nobody53535]

The Australien Beer is like making love in a Canue, it's fucking close to water🤘

[@PinkyPuff69]

Love Paul & Steve. Very young here. So long ago......really!

[@tammygill1454]

I love these two!

[@alejandrasoto-deltoro5125]

Qué pinchi guapo estaba Paul Cook. :3 Greetings from Baja California, México!

[@ukaszkonopko3263]

40 YEARS AGO ! HOLY SHIT !

[@pisswizard]

Steve jones is acting up hard, Paul cook is just being normal.

[@brucelee-wo5ge]

agreed.... imagine getting interviewed by a goose like Meldrum....he could've unloaded on him more than he did

[@lookherelooklisten7462]

He just seems a bit drunk honestly

[@benpotaka5893]

Steve was hard, never seen him back down ever

[@SethMacLeod95]

@@benpotaka5893 aka he’s scared lol

[@irishelk3]

Pretty fair interviewer.

[@undergroundjohnny]

OMG , this is comedy GOLD :)

[@eoinmurphyeoinmurphy669]

8 weeks later it was all over and these 2 were on their way to Brazil.

[@benpotaka5893]

The two actual talents of the band

[@Porkcylinder]

Contains language that people might find offensive..... in 1977

[@flyingphobiahelp]

Meant for puritanical Yanks

[@thesteveus]

I doubt this was aired word for word in 1977, the music show Countdown was in a 5.30pm or 6.00pm timeslot. The ABC1 ident in the bottom right corner is a more modern one, this would definitely go uncensored when shown on a late night music show like "Rage"

[@williamwilliam5066]

Cook is just a nice normal lad. Jones obviously has an attitude because of those dreadful stories which cam out later about his abuse as a child. He coped. Well I think.

[@DevinRyanVitek]

@Sagaris Starlight He was abused by his stepfather as a young child sadly.

[@desertrose1226]

@@DevinRyanVitek really? That explains it then.. why he’s a hard knock and why he was obsessed with sex.

[@Danimal77]

Wow, Steve's accent was so much stronger back then.

[@williamr3840]

I was actually in the house watching Carry On Camping whilst they were outside being interviewed. True.

[@sratus]

False

[@steves1460]

With one eye on the future, was Steve Jones auditioning for Duran Duran? Would have to get rid of those nits first though! Didn’t stop itching all the way theough the video.

[@geotechmore8855]

Still mates til this day 😁. Steve Jones is a radio DJ now for KLOS in California and Paul Cook has been on Steve's show 😁. Steve affectionately calls him Cookie 😁. Truly very close friends 😁. Check out the KLOS KZbin page here on KZbin for Mr. Steve Jones and his show 😁. He has many cool guests and Steve jams with many of his guests 😁.

[@DOMSKYTRANCE]

The question near the end. What can we look forward to from the Pistols in the next 6 months?. It was all over 2 months later.

[@lotharroberts5978]

None of the Pistols ever lost their hair.

[@Mark-ld5um]

Jonesy and Cooke are still best friends to this day.

[@ilovemusic1836]

If Billy Idol and Bon Jovi had a kid named Paul :)

[@desertrose1226]

Yeah definitely think Paul has a look of the young Billy!

[@spaceoddity2485]

Steve keeps drinking from an empty beer can lol

[@keijotoivonen3988]

Goooooöd!

[@shoot_the_glass5654]

I like the fact these two handle interviews better than lydon.

[@-TheRealThing-]

It's just sad to see what 40 years does to a person.. Having quality colour footage spanning a persons lifetime is still a pretty new thing.. Imagine in 40 years when we're watching youtubers who are still going after 50 odd years.

[@brotherben4357]

Molly Meldrum is a brilliant interviewer.

[@daijones101]

Two good mates

[@captainpeacock3057]

Wise words

[@falica77]

The lager was provided by the interviewer

[@MetalThrashingMikey]

Steve just doesn’t give a flying fuck.. i love it hahahaaa

[@MatteoPrezioso]

"Paul & Steve were given Foster's Lager to drink whilst being interviewed." And that would be strange why?