Sexism debate: Should misogyny be a hate crime?

[@amscared2764]

I think you should also considered Misandry as a hate crime too

[@REALASUNDER]

Yes but thats like saying white racism is just as important as black racism? Its statistically not and everyone agrees with you unless they are idiots anyway

[@amscared2764]

@@REALASUNDER , it's verse - versa , no need to debate uncharacteristic topic like this😈

[@shrimpy8188]

@@REALASUNDER if (perceivedracism == against.whitepeople) ignore.py if (perceivedracism == against.anyotherpeople) autisticscreamsofNazi.py

[@stringupthemaoist3148]

@gregory graber , you're right! Anti-White racism is a far more pressing matter than schwartze wacism.

[@stringupthemaoist3148]

For those that don't know, and aren't likely to bother looking it up... Wtf is Misandry?

[@tankthepitbull520]

Make misandry a crime then, gender equality right ?

[@luddesteen2253]

Exactly!

[@luddesteen2253]

I prefer no hate crime laws, but if one is there, the other has to be too.

[@malagreene8383]

I agree to a certain extent, but i question your intentions. When there’s a problem why would you bring up another group? We all know , or should, that women face sexual harassment along those lines. It makes me think that you dont like the idea of it, but you want to take it as “an eye for an eye”.

[@malagreene8383]

*At higher rates

[@tankthepitbull520]

@@malagreene8383 I’m not trying to downplay the experience that female victims endure but by saying you should give precedence to women is inadvertently insinuating that mens rights are irrelevant when they should be treated on an equal basis.

[@philhmp4231]

If misogyny is to be declared a hate crime then so to should misandry.

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

But that would equate men to women....Can't be done. When women want same opportunities, it's called women empowerment. When we want women to be held to the same standards, it's called "misogyny". LOL

[@philhmp4231]

@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart A sad cynical defeatist response don't you think?

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

@@philhmp4231 Yes. It is how it is. And that is one of the reasons why I support men deciding to stay single.

[@philhmp4231]

@@mathisnotforthefaintofheart A common life style choice for both genders apparently.

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

@@philhmp4231 Yes, and that is fine with me. The problem is that when a woman chooses to remain single, she is seen as a "strong independent woman", a woman who doesn't need a man to provide, aka a feminist hero. But when a man wants to remain single, he is "missing" something, he needs to "man up". The irony...

[@deezmemes126]

If you are going to punish by law, those who commit hate crimes against women, then you will have to legally define what a woman is. That should be very interesting.

[@adw6894]

Your mother?

[@paninicreature]

If we make misogynistic actions illegal then less make misandryistic actions illegal too, that would be equality. And that alone...

[@drybokes7055]

Or everybody just identify as a woman. The "progressives" can't even agree on what a "woman" is anymore.

[@luddesteen2253]

That is the correct way of thinking it. My way.

[@shrimpy8188]

NPCs out in force today.

[@dezah8360]

per usual

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

Men: There is true power in avoidance...and it is all legal!

[@PR7-82]

So sad 😞

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

@@PR7-82 Yes, in a way it is. But it is how it is and the Pence Rule has done miracles for me and my career. I lost a job (before metoo) due to a false allegation (an out of control prank by some females you can say). I did receive compensation and ti was "settled" but it was a tough time to lose a job due to something you didn't do. I vowed that it would never happen again to me. About five years ago I was asked to be a witness in some other sort of allegation of "indecent" behavior. In this case too, he was let go with a severance package, all to save public face of the company. Sickening...

[@patriciaroysdon9540]

This is very much a problem. I recently answered a man in a different video that there ARE women who love their children and try to do a good job parenting. He was saying all women are selfish and evil and started attacking me as being evil. Another man also started chiming in calling me an evil demon. I am 62. My kids are grown and are doing well, each in their own individual way. I asked the second man if he thought of his own mother that way. I grew up with a narcissistic misogynist father. It was bad enough, but I see comments on different videos by men who far surpass my dad's level of woman-hate. I find it more than disgusting. I believe that most incels now are mentally ill, hate filled, and capable of real harm to women.

[@WeatherMondacicci]

I agree with you 100% Look at how these incels/MGTOWs have taken over the video's comment section. This is what they do, they come in and make it purely about themselves so that a real discussion cannot be made. I think they are beyond mentally ill as most with mental illnesses have morals and empathy unlike these men. No, something is seriously wrong here and it has gone beyond dislike of feminism and it's in another realm now. It is pure hate and pure evil at this point and I am surprised that the government hasn't picked up on it and designated these "men's" groups as hate groups, though the SPLC and the ADL has done such. The SPLC has a whole article discussing male supremacy which is what these guys are: www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/male-supremacy it is something that needs to be taken seriously and now as most display extremism that is on the same level as ISIS though they have only been responsible for some of the mass shootings that have happened in the past few years. It's gone beyond simple mental illness at this point as they are an extremist cult. Thankfully they are but a minority and they don't seem to be growing despite their presence on the Internet and in comment sections like this.

[@dolliesdieyes5590]

tl;dr I don't know you. I can't have an opinion of you. Period. If I were to, I'd say you had a misogynist father, which is awful, and I feel sorry for you. You also brought up children which probably turned out good, so you're a good and loving mother. That's the way I see you. But if you were to say writing shitty things on the internet is equal to crime, that is *is* a hate-crime per se, I'd think you're either attention-seeking or an idiot. Maybe both. But what would that lead to? You would be reporting me for a hate-crime? As a result I would get banned? Which would only intensify that impression I had about you, and being more stressed and angry than before? While you are even more convinced about what you were implying in the first place? That'd lead to nothing. I don't consider you're an idiot. Let the real idiots write and think what they want, it is free, as well as it should be. Nobody will attack you because you're a woman, not even someone hating women. You can find it disgusting all you want, and most people, men and women alike, would agree with you. But to tolerate even disgusting people is what this here is civilization is all about. We are no ants, after all.

[@beautypopper1016]

He’s a MGTOW dude probably. They are broken beyond repair. They have to tell themselves that women are all one way to self soothe. A lot of them missed red flags when dealing with women, dated women solely on their looks, dated women who were narcissistic but want to take it out on all women. They need help

[@femalesupremacistoverlord6800]

@divyanshu pandey Are you joking or just stupid? Of course not all cases in which a man hits a woman is the violence motivated by misogyny but it *often* _is._

[@jadepixie2719]

@Patricia Roysdon I 100% agree with you, my Dad abused my mom for years and still till this day even though my mom, brother and I left him after he beat her up after she came back from work. He was very manipulative, he would threaten me and my brother after he beat up my mom again and she threatened to leave him and told us to beg for Mom to stay or he’ll give my toys 🧸 away I felt confused. I couldn’t play with other kids at my school because I feared my mom was murdered because he threatened to kill her couple of times. He picked on my mom because she was woman and shorter than him (and bullies pick on someone smaller than them.) he did a lot of bad things to lot people. My mom did call ☎️ police 👮‍♀️ over Dad’s death ☠️ threats to her but they didn’t do anything about it. It lost faith in people, I lost faith in the police. My Dad till this day stalked members of my mom family online trying to portray himself as sympathetic figures and I’m like “You got to be kidding me, you following mom’s family online and these same people who you tried to keep mom from, and now you’re following them for your selfish reason.” Many years later when I confronted him about my mom meting a relative of a domestic violence murder suicide victims and that he might have knew the murder he claimed he didn’t know this guy which made me anger because both of them kept their kids around for no reason. Just think about it, Jimmy Savile could’ve face justice for his crimes if his victims had more support. Jimmy was bisexual although the vast majority of victims were under age girls (mainly from troubled 😕 backgrounds.) Savile hated kids he mostly boasted openly about his hated mainly aimed at females (You can see that in When Louis met Jimmy Savile documentary.) shortly after his death few of his females victims came out to say that Savile abused them I remember one guy call the alleged victims as “groupies” who wanted his money and one female saying that they should “lay off” Savile . Mores victims came forward both females and males people who been around Savile came forward and admitted that he was serial child sexual abusers. I’m just wondering what if the earliest victims (which I believe the 2 earliest victims that came forward to say that Jimmy Savile abused when he was alive were female.) if they had more support if police can take their case seriously and that they’re looked down at for being girls from a troubled school if Savile would have been brought to justice. The type of men’s right groups online (who are claiming to support men’s issues.) who are hiding their faces and harassing, stalking or putting up links to mostly female social media activities know what their doing is wrong 😑 because if what they’re doing was right they wouldn’t be hiding their faces in first place, they wouldn’t be targeting females old enough to be their daughters (most of them that I see are middle age.) they wouldn’t have try to stop a woman from speaking out her opinion if they truly support free speech, they would’ve left them alone & move on in their life and continue to speak about their own issues. It reminds me so much of the treatment that my mom suffered from my dad.

[@gn2540]

What about misandry hate crimes?

[@A.17-k7i]

name some.

[@commonsense5401]

The hate crimes laws should be abolished so the police can deal with real crime.

[@emm_arr]

You lack common sense and lack an understanding of the legal basics here.

[@commonsense5401]

A man was murdered last night near to where I work in Battersea , he was killed by violent drug dealers whom the police leave alone as they are tied up by political activists reporting made up instances of hate crime. Society is falling apart. London is like the Wild West and the cops are on the internet following twitter exchanges, again a lot of them coming from agent provocateurs faking it and pretending there is hate where there is none.

[@joshuacoleman8000]

If it's violent yes. If it's just hateful words, no.

[@TheRobster2007]

Polite and plenty of good points by both sides. This is definitely _not_ a US debate lol.

[@henryspoliticalideologies3433]

A friend of mine raised a good point...and he works for the ambulance service. He questioned why there is extra punishment for committing any crime because of the motivation. Crime is crime, and one could argue the motivation is irrelevant, partly because we are entitled to think what we want, just not act upon it. I think there might be some middle ground to this, but it can't be totally brushed aside. Just my view.

[@ameliadeering8843]

intention is fundamental to the crime. Say there are two people. Person 1 kills another person decisively and premeditatively. Person 2 runs someone over by accident as they were crossing the road absent-mindedly and Person 2 wasn't paying quite enough attention at the same time. Quantitatively, the two incidents are identical but they differ qualitatively, and our intuition suggests that the law should treat them differently.

[@christopher9979]

There is nothing good about a law like this.

[@Alex_Aramayo]

This wouldn't even be a discussion here bc we have Freedom of Speech thank god

[@anthk.4846]

if misogyny is a hate crime then so is misandry.

[@GuitarZombie]

Words are not crimes

[@dinoworld112]

How fragile do you need to be to report someone whistling at you and expecting it to be a crime

[@bugspray4265]

I agree with this but misogyny is other than just catcalls. Catcalls are normal but not mental abuse and physical.

[@miketysall5714]

This is funny because if misogyny is a hate crime so should feminism be a hate crime then to. Equal rights and all.

[@hottuber2688]

Why are men constantly under attack in this country.

[@IglooDweller]

Yes, it should be.

[@chrissilk4093]

Get a grip.

[@jacmar44]

So making a nasty comment about women on the internet should now be criminal, but the police failing to investigate serious crime and breaking human rights on the daily is OK?

[@Erakius323]

Only if misandry is also made a hate crime and feminists are arrested.

I was a battered husband but never reported it because of my job,children and ego.

[@missheartfull237]

Ooh nooo! The poor men

[@missheartfull237]

Organize your own movement and stop using your assault as a derailing tactic

[@sibungwenya2303]

I feel the same amount of sympathy as I would for a woman-a lot💔

[@gerardobrian5983]

Yes.

[@Faustaao]

If it's not a crime in the first place, who it's directed at doesn't make it a crime. no double standards or protected classes.

[@tError4O4]

You will destroy society if we keep making everything a criminal matter. I say people are assholes at times and those people are terrible but as long as nothing is violent, threatening or legitimate harassment, don’t make it a crime. Look what happened when they put people in jail for marijuana, you turned many people into hardcore criminals in the beginning were nonviolent people. We don’t need more of that. I hope my message comes across in a positive way.

[@emm_arr]

"The EU are trying to destroy society." That's a good shitpost!

[@tError4O4]

M R nah, my post is not meant to be negative.

[@emm_arr]

tError4O4, nah? I didn't even comment on your post!

[@tError4O4]

M R my mistake. My email just notified me of your response so I thought it was to me. Carry on!

[@MaryJane-tr6uc]

Absolutely! If racism is a hate crime, misogyny should be as well. Especially that misogyny affects women ALL around the world.

[@GaryHighFruit]

" If racism is a hate crime" it's not. Crimes based on hate are hate crimes.

[@luddesteen2253]

Not every woman, don't even argue about that.

[@luddesteen2253]

A middle aged male miner are not more privileged than an upperclass woman with a glamorous life!, (more like the opposite).

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

Hate crime laws are just secular blasphemy laws put in under a vale of virtue. But OK. Only if misandry is a hate crime. Lot more hate from women than there is hate of women.

[@d.v.crystal5589]

Solder Joe you have no evidence of that, yet the way women are mistreated all over the world is evidence to the contrary.

[@AliG-yu2bn]

@@d.v.crystal5589 you triggered Replying to everyone who has a different opinipon

[@d.v.crystal5589]

joe kony are you implying that KZbin is not the place for public discourse? Seriously?

[@user-mg4zu7bs6i]

And the way men are mistreated is ignored? When will women take responsibility for 50% army enlisting, 50% of workplace deaths/injuries? Because right now men are taking 90%+ of each category (in the US at least, but similar in UK). When those stats (life/death) are sorted out, maybe then "harassment" and "misogyny" can come to the forefront. I'm of course talking about 1st world countries. The modern feminist movement doesn't really care about real abuse in 3rd world countries anyways. You also said OP had "no evidence" - you presented none either lol

[@d.v.crystal5589]

Alex Bai tell you what, fix this, and maybe more women would enlist: “Recent statistics. At least 25% of women serving in the U.S. military have been sexually assaulted, and up to 80% have been sexually harassed. A 2011 report found that women in the U.S. military were more likely to be raped by fellow soldiers than they were to be killed in combat.” Wikipedia

[@andym9571]

Fine ..as long as misandry is treated equally

[@daboys1215]

Feminists belong in prison but I wouldn't want to punish the inmates that are already there even more than they are.

[@splinterbyrd]

Most assaults, manslaughter and murders are hate crimes, aren't they? Also, ladies should be aware that assault does not have to include battery. That is, if someone starts shouting abusive misogynistic language at you or on the internet, you may report them to the police for causing you actual bodily harm. Take care ladies xxx

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

Hate crimes are very hard to prove, but if someone goes and attacks a group on purpose it is very much a hate crime. To be fair, it can and should be expanded to any gendered attack should be a hate crime, if a woman goes and targets men trying to physically hurt them just because they are men then it should also be a hate crime. It is less common but can happen.

[@splinterbyrd]

@@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend Technology can perhaps be useful here, I guess it would be beneficial if everyone had a bodycam recording everything at all times. Other than assassinations for hire, all violent crimes are "hate crimes," including domestic violence aren't they? However, there's been a feeling in the western world for a long time that when violence is inflicted for an immutable characteristic - eg gender, ethnicity - that this is somehow worse. Not sure whether this view is valid or not....

[@luddesteen2253]

Hate Laws are dividing!

[@TheShepTV]

Writing with your left hand is a hate crime. I find it an flagrant affront to me right to write with my right hand.

[@REALASUNDER]

But youre not a government making laws and just a triggered lil son on youtube with nothing better to do but hate against women (the only idea i could pull from ur bs)

[@TheShepTV]

Haha; it was irony pet. I was employing it to highlight the ludicrousness of calling crimes against women hate crimes. I'm sorry, but empowerment does not mean wrapping up in cotton wool and this fetish for victimisation serves nobody; just widens the divide between the genders. Ha, did you just assume I was a man?

[@agentorange1528]

Im a strong and independant women.... That demamds the state persecute all men just so those one or two individuals can't hurt my feelings. Good one 👍

[@carlg5086]

Make misandry a hate crime too while your at it.

[@jordanwhisson5407]

No more or less than misandry

[@faraway2686]

Don’t you think we have more pressing issues to deal with? Like the 12 year count down to complete global failure of global warming.. ffs seriously 😡

[@leeandbeahinton]

DON'T BELIEVE THE STUPID HYPE, DUDE.

[@faraway2686]

Never-die Young oh dear 🙄

[@KoasterKing205]

Misandry should be a hate crime then & don't come at me with saying Misogyny happens more than Misandry because that's bs.

[@MrTom1379]

Basically hurting their feelings is to become a crime. That’s what they’re asking for .

[@carbonicoyster5907]

These women need to find God

[@iqnill]

You what?

[@seanj5835]

What about making misandry a hate crime?

[@GaryHighFruit]

Well that would make it ... EQUAL.

[@kingjeremysircornwell7847]

I'm beautiful, misogyny is a turn off.

[@JonasPrudas]

Misogyny does not exist. Misandry does exist. All the establishment is full of misandry.

[@mr.soundguy968]

@@JonasPrudas Both exist, and both should not exist

[@JonasPrudas]

@@mr.soundguy968 You are right: I am exaggerating. Misogeny is often done... by women ... against each other, when they do not like each other. Misogeny done by men also exists but it is often the result of frustration with women.- It is the same as when women complain about men. The only thing that it should be a crime is when it turns pathologically violent. Apart from that, it is just life. Everybody criticises everybody. It is democracy. What I see about there laws is a complete discrimination against men and the use of censorship so as to shut peoples mouths. This is the end of democracy.

[@bugspray4265]

@@JonasPrudas you are under a rock.

[@JonasPrudas]

@@bugspray4265 The rock of misandry. It is heavy and hard.

[@xlastzone9130]

No

[@REALASUNDER]

Yes

[@Farhad-i2s]

More important crime to deal with then someone making a sexist joke. Its a law designed to punish men from their every move, every words disgusting

[@ireissistable]

Does that mean that it will soon be illegal for women to use the term 'toxic masculinity' and get up to 7 years in jail for doing so?!

[@wilshb]

I think lawmakers, public figures etc., are getting themselves tied in knots with this. We already have well-established laws which serve to deter and punish crime - and those laws have been formulated over centuries. Now, the emphasis seems not on what crime a person commits, but why they have done it. We are sliding into "thought crime" territory.

[@AlexS-gs1jo]

Nah still treat her like garbage

[@confusedwolf7157]

and misandry?

[@d.v.crystal5589]

Confused Wolf Oh, yes, because there’s so much evidence of the global mysandry crisis. You are! confused.

[@BlueBedouin]

@@d.v.crystal5589 ...but there is.

[@marvelgirlxvii]

BlueBedouin where?

[@BlueBedouin]

@@marvelgirlxvii Hatred for masculinity and branding it to "toxic masculinity" is almost if not entirely a norm in the modern world.

[@marvelgirlxvii]

BlueBedouin what country is this such a problem in? Are men being killed for being men? Do they have women taking away their rights?

[@sacreligious74]

#WalkAway

[@anonanonymous1970]

This poor woman has to explain that the police should care about misogyny more than their paperwork. This whole conversation is a hate crime.

[@ResoundGuy5]

WAHMEN! WAAAAAH!

[@davidjj9292]

Dont like profiling

[@davidwilkinson3302]

It is just virtue signalling bullshit.

[@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010]

No no no no no no no no no no no

[@metatron333ascension]

no one takes women seriously on their claims because they can just make up stuff as they go along. what about the women who lie about the accusations they make? shouldnt that be illegal?

[@DS-lk3tx]

The guy had to spend half of his rebuttal navigating egg shells. Meanwhile the moderator is on her side and she sounded like she read from a script... What a wonderful display of what's really happening.

[@user-iz9hx4rx1w]

Cornish and Devon women are the worst of the worst they moan over small things.

[@stringupthemaoist3148]

Ain't that thee fackin truth! ...😩

[@Farhad-i2s]

This lady is never challenged

[@royalegamer2704]

I can see why it be a good idea to control or make it socially unacceptable to express misandry or mysgony views. However hate, anger, sadness, etc are natural human emotions to legislate against them is a hate crime against humanity and it devalues what it means to be human.

[@markmawer]

So a guy rubbing himself up against a 15 year old girl on the tube is a hate crime but a guy rubbing himself up against a 15 year old boy isn't? Apart from the obvious problem of discrimination, where does the word "hate" fit in to this scenario? It seems that nearly all crime would be defined as a hate crime because in nearly all cases the victim is selected based on who they are. Let's say I came across Warren Davis in a darkened alley and mugged him for his Rolex watch would that make it hate crime across dwarves because I judged that he was small enough for me to beat up with reasonable confidence? A hate crime against the rich because it was a Rolex or a hate crime against men because it was a man's watch I wanted rather than a woman's one? Sure I mugged him because of who he is but my motivation was to get an expensive watch for free. Let's push this logic further. Now I'm really confused, if I'm as likely to mug a 9 stone man as I am a 9 stone woman as an easy mark for their mobile phone, does that make me a feminist because I treat the sexes equally? Or is it a hate crime against non plus size people?

[@fuzzybee3788]

No, both are assault of a minor - that is very obvious.

[@Farhad-i2s]

@@fuzzybee3788 there's already a law for that, it's called sexual assault. What this lady saying is cut men's tongue of if they something that hurts their feelings. That's just stupidest thing police have to deal with

[@Farhad-i2s]

Rubbing your crotch on a women is not mysogony, its sexual harassment, 2 different thing and theres already a law for that. Should it be a crime if i say men are physically stronger than women, is that a crime now?

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

“The long-range effects of this campaign are even now evident. It is producing the 'spineless citizen': the man who has no cultural sensibilities; who is incapable of indignation; whose sole mental activity is merely an extension of what he reads in the newspaper or sees on the television screen; who faces moral disaster in his neighborhood, political disaster in his country, and an impending world catastrophe with a blank and smiling countenance. He has only understanding for the enemies of his country. He has nothing but kind sentiments for those who would destroy his home and family. He has an earnest sympathy for anyone who would obliterate his faith. He is universally tolerant. He is totally unprejudiced. If he has any principles, he keeps them well concealed, lest in advocating them he should seem to indicate that contrary principles might be inferior. He is, to the extent of his abilities, exactly like the next citizen, who, he trusts, is trying to be exactly like him: a faceless, characterless putty-man...” Read more: Should Hate Be Outlawed? (‘The Point’, January 1959)

[@jean-baptistedupont5967]

I'd say yes, but then for most women: "mildest rational criticism" = "Buhuuu! Hate crime!" Therefore: no.

[@gordonpeebles1907]

pitiful.

[@MarinaM-o6p]

ABSOLUTELY YES .

[@Jackthesmilingblack]

By the way, is racist now a crime in police state UK? Jack, the racist Japan Alps Brit

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

A hate crime is a tag on a real crime that was proven in court and then on top of that was proven to be motivated towards a group of people. For example if someone murdered someone it is murder. If there is proof that that someone murdered his victim because he was gay for example (if you can prove he searched and targeted any person that belongs to that group just to kill a guy person) then it is a murder that is a hate crime. This is not about someone that has said something to someone at work, this is a serious label which requires serious proof and is added to very serious crimes. It does not make every crime, not even serious ones against any group a hate crime. You need to first prove the crime like you normally have to then prove that it was motivated by hate towards a group

[@metatron333ascension]

she doesnt know what she is talking about. so men call out women about their bad behavior and dont want to be used by women then all of a sudden its mysogyny. i think women that purposely use men for resources it should be illegal.

[@pennryan970]

This guest does a good job of describing the intent of the law and the importance of labels to understand + address an issue.

[@roberthartlepool1756]

There are a few issues of importance here which are, always overlooked by Channel 4, the BBC, etc. Hate crime has increased significantly for one very often ignored section of society. The section of society which has had newspapers create totally fictitious stories about to justify their mistreatment, the section of society which has had whole series devoted to creating a false impression of their plight, the section of society which has, for the last ten years, had government employees, and those working in a government function for private companies, openly lying to do them harm. That section is the disabled which has had huge numbers among them driven into an early grave, whilst the entirely evil media, including Channel 4 News, has either ignored, downplayed, or been willfully complicit in abusing. To add to that the mention of reduced police numbers was ignored when that, among other results of austerity, creates the currently less safe society we have. The austerity of course is the basis of much by way of attack on the sick, disabled and unemployed. Austerity is built on one huge lie which the media seem to enjoy repeating. An obvious lie that the government can only spend on services that which it takes in taxes. This has never been true. In all cases the government created legal tender currency must be created first, and taxation cannot occur until it has been created. The spending comes first, the taxation regulates the money available in different sections of society by removing money from the economy for that subgroup. Austerity has been very useful for the rich. It has been used to excuse the selling off, extremely cheaply, and indeed even giving away, of our commonly owned state industries and services. They then cost everyone more but the money goes to already wealthy people who don't need the money and wont spend it. Indeed smaller businesses are often swallowed up by larger companies due to the problems created by austerity. It only makes the rich richer, impoverishes those most in need, strips us of the core services which maintain society, and decreases the assets owned by us all through the state. Channel 4 News, among others, allow guests to make ridiculous mocking remarks about magic money tree without then asking those often wealthy or shilling for the wealthy, where they think the base money which underpins our society comes from. They would of course either have to lie, or admit the government can and does create money as it sees the need, and in modern times it does so at the press of a button. Of course that money is never seen as needed by our corrupt government unless it is handed over to their rich friends. No amount of damage to the 99.9% of society is too great for the super rich. No actual honest explanation of the system we have and how it could simply resolve many problems with government will to do so, will ever be mentioned by the extremely well paid members of the British main stream media.

[@whizzingbye]

You literally couldn't determine these things. Seems people can't even agree when something is missoginous as certain things like wolf whistles I argue has nothing to do with hate infarct is an open gesture of loving women. The simple fact that as a white straight male happy ilwith my bits I'm more likely to be made to feel predatory if I'm walking behind a woman, suggest a man invented something pointing out my political views about women as heads of state beeing disasterous politically and socially based on real data. We've had our vocabulary skewed so profoundly terms like man are considered person nowadays when it simply means human while person represents legal entities. Isn't it misandry that rape is something a woman literally can't do to a man by definition and socially if we get an unwanted bumming we have to walk/waddle it off. Dam should jokes like "your darker than under the bed" be labeled as racism. That's the outlying issue, although we verbally propergate a culture of free and independence thought and beliefs based on our understanding of the facts and evidence what's actually happening is while pursuing a digital intelligence beyond simple bash scripts and the myth of conscious computing were loosing freeform thought and presise understanding of some ingrained concept we are born with. Like a blind dumb and deaf young child will point as a gesture meaning "over there" these women need to grow up accept they have a cushty life where they occupy almost all the highest paid jobs in a normal company, can go for a night out and pay for no drinks be taken to dinner with no actual expectations by enlarge and although a small margins of toxious bigots are not just validated whenever they leave the house by simple things like beeing stared at. I garentee most men have walked into a lamppost because of a sexy pair of legs. Why don't women take up the male roles in social sciences by approaching men, and promote there arguements put out by monsters and bandwagoned by this trolup without bias towards looks, wealth or social status . Meh on the funny side though they've been lumbered with the trans community who are what history would label special by only wanting to block gender specific biology and not transition to anything past puberty, weirdos should be exhiled tlfor breaking kids.

[@traceylok675]

Actions are good or evil full stop. Trying to work out motivation is ludicrous. We will have to make many more prisons and employ more police to deal with this ludicrous trend.

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

So Hitler just wanted to kill people and it doesn't matter he gathered and exterminated specific groups

[@nihilisticguy4106]

I have good reason to be misogynistic and god I hate that Laura bates with a passion

[@firstname2439]

Isn't that sexiest

[@WillScarlet1991]

Laura Bates really likes her hand and arm movements a bit too much.

[@mapleleaf8106]

Look up misandry

[@run2cat4run]

I think we should learn what behaviour is ok and not ok,

[@stringupthemaoist3148]

I think YOU and your kind need to learn that first & foremost!

[@run2cat4run]

String Up The Maoist ???

[@DrJams]

Help women as less as you can at work. The government gives them preferential treatment anyway. Otherwise your just helping the privileged competition.

[@basedbari6680]

No haha.

[@haydonrooke3505]

Bring back the Death penalty

[@rGxDale]

Hahah this is so stupid. How can someone (not me, a friend) not hate or trust something i've (not me, a friend) never met. What do you expect from me. erm them.

[@ritacampbell3833]

The policeman doesn’t understand or doesn’t want to understand.

[@aukekovic4721]

It may be an NPC

[@edwardharley9]

If Sadiq Khan wants misogyny to be a hate crime... he is talking about banning Islam from the U.K. Good..

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

What exactly is the police for if not protecting the public? Can women at least pay less tax since we don't get to enjoy the same protection?

[@JonasPrudas]

1 - Women are more protected than men in many areas. The media lie. 2 - If women pay less tax, willthe tax inspectors tell you to open your legs in order to make sure what is your gender? This is clearly the opposite of ... uh?.. equality?

[@JustAskingForAFriendOfAFriend]

@@JonasPrudas I have no idea why you open your legs when you are undergoing a tax inspection. I suspect it might not be impressing the inspector.

[@hottuber2688]

Practicing Islam should be a crime

[@sacreligious74]

Like asking the patriarchy to make patriarchy a crime. Hahaha Honestly, I will not condone making woman less then they are. I encourage them to be the best person they can be. Use the opportunities set forth that everyone has. Work hard at you career, choose to stay home if you please. As time has shown, woman can get up and get a degree. Stats show woman do better in university than men. But bowing to the victimhood is degrading their worth. All industrialized country's have equal human rights, take advantage of it.

[@XxxX-wx3er]

Hahaha all these videos only have men commenting “WhAt AbOuT MiSaNdRy?” 🥴

[@farahdinaraden7625]

Abuse not for me and other woman!!!

[@NigelAnudo]

meanwhile racism still reigns supreme

[@fishstickbio594]

Welcome to the future of everyone will live their lives by themselves !!! If I would be a female I would choose to stay and live single !!

[@kaiser_landschaft7941]

No