SF's Hammer Tutorials - Moving Brushes

[@grandmasterpanda8006]

Hl1 train flag means that it allows the player to be on top of it while it moves without it the train to thinks the player is a object that prevents it from moving.

[@grande1900]

I was gonna comment that!

[@sirpootsman1048]

@@grande1900 you were 4 years late

[@JustBluu]

@@sirpootsman1048 i was gonna comment that!

[@sirpootsman1048]

@@JustBluu 👽

[@Mr_Also]

@@sirpootsman1048i was gonna comment that

[@nemesis6598]

wow 12 years i hope this legendary dude is alive

[@DestructionX09]

When I heard your voice in the beginning of the video, I thought you were a bot speaking. Lol. On a serious note, thanks for the tutorial! Great job explaining and got it real well down. :D

[@tld5500]

I am not sure what I was doing wrong, but I finally got a train working on my map. Thanks for the help! Have a good one

[@Silwerfish]

Yep. Just use a trigger_multiple or trigger_once depending on your needs. Set up its outputs so that the train moves when the player enters it. If you don't know how outputs work there should be a few tutorials that can teach you that here on KZbin. Good luck!

[@Silwerfish]

Good thing you managed to sort it out! This tutorial is for the Source engine. HL1 and CS 1.6 use the GoldSource engine which works differently from the Source engine in many aspects.

[@Tiger66261]

Oh one more thing, how can I add custom models to hammer? I have a custom model of a stealth bomber. The idea is I was going to make the stealth bomber like a train, except the train tracks are above the map and invisible so it creates the effect of a bomber flying overhead. Thanks!

[@GobDemoMaster]

You do a wonderful job. I also like how you use annotations to allow me to watch the video in low quality and still see it. Keep up the great work :D

[@Silwerfish]

@AguyinaRPG you can make a simple elevator just by following this tutorial, it really depends on how advanced you want the elevator to be. But when you have the basic elevator it's easy to expand from there. I'd rather do a tutorial on parenting and another one on triggering and then let people figure out how to parent a model to the elevator and set up a trigger to make it move. I try to be as general and focused as possible in my tutorials you see.

[@Silwerfish]

Yeah the brush will tilt upwards or downwards by default if there are slopes.

[@thegoobster]

Thank you very much for making this video! Helped me out alot!

[@Silwerfish]

Good to hear, glad I could help!

[@Tiger66261]

I thank you alot for helpful comments!

[@Silwerfish]

You can make two trains that work differently. If you want them to work the same way you just give them the same settings. :)

[@Silwerfish]

That is quite hard to do, I've done it a few times before but getting a custom model into Source can take a bit of work, at least when you haven't done it before. I suggest you try finding a full tutorial on the subject as I can't remember the entire process in my head, and a KZbin comment surely isn't enough space to describe the whole process either way.

[@Silwerfish]

@ZPS0 That's odd, is the new train speed on the path_track set to 0 as well? Have you tried setting the max speed to 0 also?

[@L4DeadHunter]

Nice tut. BTW "Fire Once" allows the train to pass this point only once.

[@Loekamber]

If I group multiple brushes together, will they become one big train?

[@Silwerfish]

You can't parent the actual spawn point, what you need to do is have the player spawn location be inside of a teleporter volume that will teleport him to a destination, and that destination can be parented to a moving train brush.

[@RandyLott]

Awesome tutorial! I love your Swedish accent :) I love Sweden, I visited last summer. Keep it up buddy!

[@tld5500]

I keep trying to make a train, but nothing works. When i create func_tracktrain and edit the values, it disappears.

[@AguyinaRPG]

Perhaps an elevator tutorial? It's very similar but there are a lot of added elements that I don't think a lot of people get when looking at written tutorials.

[@Silwerfish]

@guyboy625 All entities in the Source engine are pre fabricated and hard coded, yes. So you have to work with what's there, what the mapper can do though is use inputs/outputs to make the entities communicate by sending information to one another and so on. There is a good online reference at "developer valvesoftware com" (replace spaces with dots). I think you can just press F1 when Hammer is open and it'll take you there as well.

[@GionatanT22]

oh i just forgott..... i got a little problem: i made a map and triggerd an npc to youse a teleporter to another section of the map witch is detached from the rest of the map... after teleportation the npc was ment to go to a rally-point but it keeps standing on the teleportation exit... it's not stuck. tryed the teleporter by myself as info_player_start... how may i fix it?

[@Apacolypse241]

Is it possible to tie a Spawn point to a moving train brush? I've seen it done I'm just wondering if I'm heading in the right direction.

[@guyboy625]

Ok, so I get that func_tracktrain and path_track are Source Engine object classes. But they seem extremely prefabricated and single-purposed. I'm guessing that they are hard-coded in every version of the Source Engine, and therefore not customizable without enormously tedious reverse-engineering if you don't have the Source engine's source code. I'm guessing you have to work with what is there, correct? Is there at least an online reference for these objects?

[@guyboy625]

@Silwerfish ...and without having the source code. Thanks for the info. I'm guessing that GMod SEnts are all the same class in hammer, and that GMod is the only game with that feature. Is that correct, or have you no experience with GMod?

[@PiranhaAction]

not if you manage to replace the mesh , but well idk if that possible and the hostage has animations to it. just a thought

[@Silwerfish]

They had an invisible brush entity as the functional part of the train, and then they took a prop_dynamic model entity and parented it to the brush (this makes the prop_dynamic follow the train's movement). Thank you for the stars and the comment. :D

[@Silwerfish]

Hm, I don't think you should need to deactivate the paths, shouldn't you just have to make sure the train starts without moving and then starts moving when you push the button? I'm sorry, it was such a long time since I played around with this stuff so I don't quite remember how everything works with these trains. :(

[@TheIcecubelover]

Hmm i tried to make a brush that moves upwards but when i spawn it always flip over to 90° left... What is this?? I am using portal 2 authoring tools btw..

[@Loekamber]

@Silwerfish Do I have to move up every single waypoint tsrget for every brush, or will it just have one waypoint target that will work far all the brushes?

[@sniperrizzet]

Hello Silwer, I am working on my simple, but a fun map and was wondering before i start and do everything and then it wont work, but i was wondering can you make 2 trains and let those trains follow their own paths what i mean is can i make 2 trains that move in their own tracks not in eachotheres

[@harrisdavisson9409]

can't you attach some objects to hostage so it looks like other type of NPC ?

[@Paul_Krantz]

I'm making an elevator using this same func_tracktrain, and path_track method. What I can't figure out is how to make a button that takes you to a specific floor when it's pressed. I have 4 different floors the elevator moves to and they all have different spacing between them. Can you or anyone help me out?

[@MushroomStorm123]

I have a problem. im trying to make a train that would start moving by the path when i press a button, or trigger it but it doesnt seem to work. This is how i made it.. I made a logic_auto entitie so that it would set the 2 path_tracks to be disabled when the map starts. And then i added a func_button with the triggers: OnPressed path1 EnablePath OnPressed path2 EnablePath OnPressed train StartForward But it doesnt work! i tried adding other options, but still its not working. I need some help!

[@Silwerfish]

@TheSisisspore If you select all the brushes and turn them all into one train then they will stay in their shape.

[@Silwerfish]

@Jacc0s Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Silwerfish]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean, what is "havver cameha"?

[@Silwerfish]

@pakrantz I'm not saying it's impossible by any means, it would just take a good amount of time to set it all up.

[@Silwerfish]

@stephenisakeeper I did try it out several times though and that was not the case for me, so I really don't know what it does. If you manage to make it do what it sounds like it's supposed to do, then let me know!

[@Silwerfish]

Thank you! Any requests? :)

[@dabadguy4273]

i was working on a map, it was pretty nice when i put the skybox in, i pushed control+H to hollow it so i could play on my map... what happend? IT DELETED EVERYTHING IN MY MAP!!!

[@Silwerfish]

Hm, that is quite odd, I don't really know what might be the issue, I suggest you make sure you follow the tutorial very closely just to make sure you're doing everything the same way I am. If you're unlucky there might have been an update of some sort that broke func_tracktrain.

[@Silwerfish]

@cortorboch12 The brush that was blocking it. If you want to I could take a look at the map, there are some problems that are hard to find without looking at the map. Upload your .vmf somewhere and send me a link in a PM, or just send me a PM and we'll work out another way.

[@Silwerfish]

That could work, but I don't know if it's possible to do that only though the editor, I think you'd need a mod for the game to do that. however if you could make it work, it would still act like and actually _be_ a hostage.

[@Silwerfish]

@csguitarsk8dude Then you can for instance make the train start at 0 speed and when you push the button you set the speed of the train to 1 (that means 100% of its max speed).

[@Silwerfish]

@cortorboch12 Hehe, I actually have no idea. :P I guess it's some kind of legacy thing they might have used for Half-Life: Source or something perhaps?

[@bocca882]

I know this request is a bit tricky but can you make a tutorial for general tips for faster mapping and making a map feel more detailed?

[@Silwerfish]

Ah, shift-Z will maximize the current viewport, do it again to go back. Press ctrl-A to reset the viewport sizes. I hope this helps! :)

[@sniperrizzet]

oh and btw when you make 2 trains do they work the same way?

[@foist101]

Very nice, I've always wanted to know how to do this. Gj.

[@Silwerfish]

Oh, ok. Well they provide NPCs with information about their surroundings. So they can know where there's cover, interesting places for them to look, if there's a narrow doorway where only one NPC will fit and so on.

[@Silwerfish]

That would be pretty advanced, there might be a simple solution, but not one that I'm aware of.

[@gmodbastard]

can u make a tutorial of prop elevator?

[@Silwerfish]

@guyboy625 You can't add custom entities without programming in C++.

[@Silwerfish]

@guyboy625 I don't have any experience with gmod, but that might be the case, it's a gmod specific thing anyhow.

[@theRPGmaster]

Amen de va ju så braa, att du gjordee en sån her bra tutourial sak!

[@Silwerfish]

Nice att du gillar! :)

[@theRPGmaster]

Silverfish (Lukas Orsvärn) yep, det var faktiskt den enda jag hittade som visar just detta. Och lätt att förstå.

[@Silwerfish]

@KillTheGrasshopper In the properties of the prop (you might need to have it be a prop_dynamic), set the parent property to the name of your train brush.

[@Silwerfish]

Thanks! I actually tested it because I couldn't find any info on it, it could pass the point any amount of times even with that flag checked, so I really don't know.

[@DrakeDaraitis]

@jeffjohnvol Put a nodraw brush under it, then tie the nodraw to func_tracktrin

[@Silwerfish]

Thank you for the kind words and the stars! ^^

[@Silwerfish]

Yeah maybe, I suggest you follow the tutorial very closely the first time you do it just to make sure you're doing it right, and then you can start using the knowledge that you learned to create your own stuff.

[@Silwerfish]

Thank you for the request!

[@Silwerfish]

Sorry, but I don't make tutorials any longer. I have never seen moving NPCs in CS:S other than the hostages, so unless you've seen it done it's probably not possible.

[@Silwerfish]

@chickenmobile I tried that, that is not the case.

[@Silwerfish]

That's a great request! Thank you.

[@Silwerfish]

I'm happy to hear that! :D Good luck with your mapping!

[@Mansl1]

"and then we have the train speed! also self explenetory." lol

[@colbyjackextracheese6249]

can I connect multiple blocks to one train so I have a real train?

[@ThunderPanzer]

(Facepalm)... I now seem to understand the problem... I have a mounted machine gun in my helicopter, but it doesn't work... And the origin texture of the gun was guiding the helicopter...

[@Silwerfish]

@illusionist123546 I'm afraid I don't have a tut on that, if you want that just add it as a suggestion in the Moderator module on my channel page, if it gets enough votes I'll make a tut on it! :)

[@Silwerfish]

Thanks! I'm glad you learned something!

[@Silwerfish]

Want a tutorial on info_hint entities? I'll add it to the list!

[@Silwerfish]

Possibly, but it's still going to act exactly like a hostage.

[@Silwerfish]

I'm looking forward to it! :)

[@Silwerfish]

Great! Glad you figured it out! :)

[@sonitrok2499]

Is it possible to make this but with a prop instead of a brush ? How is it possible to tie the brush and the prop so the prop moves with the brush ?

[@Silwerfish]

I don't remember, so long since I worked in Hammer now!

[@Tiger66261]

Hey can you like make it so the train moves ONLY when you step on a certain spot in the map?

[@NicolaiSyvertsen]

it's not like the MS Office team designed the Hammer editor.

[@Silwerfish]

You're welcome.

[@kareongames]

much better tutorial than 3kliks made! thx, now my train works

[@Silwerfish]

Wow, that's quite a compliment! Thanks!

[@Silwerfish]

Hi! I'm afraid I don't make tutorials any longer, sorry!

[@Liamwitz]

Brilliant.

[@Silwerfish]

@CU2UK Thanks!

[@sniperrizzet]

I LOVE YOU! great response and you don't waste time, +1 Rep!

[@chickenmobile]

Lol, I laughed when he said Fire Once, I dont know what that does. If anyone wants to know, it means that it can only be triggered once, as in it can only move from the path_tracks once.

[@stephenisakeeper]

fire-once means just that fire once. It will only do it once. It will not continue.

[@whattodo3116]

continue make tutor pls i wanna break the wall and it explode

[@Silwerfish]

Yes that is doable.

[@sniperrizzet]

oh and please respons asap when you read this

[@guyboy625]

@Silwerfish ...and without having the source code. Thanks for the info. I'm guessing that GMod SEnts are all the same class in hammer, and that GMod is the only game with that feature. Is that correct, or have you no experience with GMod?

[@Silwerfish]

It sounds like your func_tracktrain origin is not in the right place. The func_tracktrain is where it will attach to the track. The origin is the small ball thing you see in the 2D views when you have your brush entity selected, there should be a dotted line leading towards it from your selection if I recall correctly, you can just click and drag it into the place where you want your func_tracktrain to attach to the rail.

[@Silwerfish]

@dabadguy4273 You should be able to just undo stuff like that. (ctrl - z). Otherwise you might be able to load an old autosave if you have that activated. Also, don't use make hollow. Ever. It can mess things up and doesn't produce optimal brushwork. It's better to just use duplicating, clipping and vertex manipulation.

[@Silwerfish]

@TakeBackTheWorld I do remember that. But that's not it, because you can drive the train by default, there's a flag that says something like "not drivable" that you have to check in order to remove that functionality. Perhaps it has something to do with how it behaves on a more basic level? In any case, it's probably not too important. :P

[@Silwerfish]

Thank you! I assume you have placed info_node entities? To get some info about what's going on, write developer 2 in the console. Then get the NPC to do what you want and bring up the console again, there you should now have a bunch of information that might help you in understanding what's going wrong. Do that and tell me if you manage to figure it out.

[@Silwerfish]

What you can do is make several paths like you did, and also give each crow its own destination. The path that you want a crow to take should be the one that has the shortest distance from the crow's starting position to its goal. That's how I've done it if I recall correctly.

[@McStebb]

I think HL1 train is the tyle of train that when you E-press it you are binded to the entity and move with it, controlling speed with the W and S keys, remember that from HL1?

[@Silwerfish]

@fingerboy18 Hehe that's great, I don't understand why so many people seem to enjoy my Swedish accent, but I'm glad they do! :) And I have to agree, Sweden is a great country.

[@Silwerfish]

@chickenmobile I don't understand what you mean by that first part, but if you want to you could try it out and see if that's how it works. I'll add your idea to the request list, thanks!

[@Silwerfish]

Oh, I removed it because it didn't work, I forgot to add an annotation about it in the video. I stopped adding them because it was too much work in relation to how many people liked them.