SGB Smackdown Sunday: Mario Kart 64 (Round 3)

[@justEvan]

Sherbert land came back in wii. The one in 8 was from Double Dash, I believe.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Hated that one in Wii, it was fucking annoying.

[@k-leb4671]

@@LeopoldLitchenstein Mario Kart Wii has quite a few annoying tracks, although the opinion on that seems to vary wildly between players.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

@@k-leb4671 It's been awhile since I've played it so it would be hard for me to recall which ones were the worst

[@Kapenguin448]

This is seriously one of the funniest Smackdown Sundays, I couldn't stop laughing throughout this video. This is something I'd love to see revisited next St. Patrick's Day, on 150cc. And man, Wario sure cleaned up this one.

[@MrGamer07100]

Wow. Super funny. Wish I was playing with you guys!

[@FourSwordsLord]

Born to be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@Kriken8]

6:08 "And this came back in 8" No, that one is from Double Dash, shares the same name, but it was from Double Dash, not MK64

[@raiza51]

Luigi: It's time for Luigi show you how it's done. You will here me roar through the tracks. 5:58 LOL!! Great start Matt and Elliot!! Also, Matt's Wario voice is also hilarious. Need to get Matt, Johnny, Ryan and Ted for a Mario Party. Matt - Wario Johnny - Luigi Ryan - Waluigi Ted - Toad

[@MrEndlesswarr]

I want a Economic Documentary with Wario going from the start to now to all the possible endings of our economy.

[@dipolartrash2946]

Would one of the endings be Wario becoming the economic ruler of the world?

[@MrEndlesswarr]

Wahahahah, Off-course!

[@VulxaniSolas]

Matthew Nugent Isn't that how they would all end?

[@MrYoshbert]

The wonderful return of Johnny's Luigi voice!

[@S0LV0]

The Sherbet Land in 8 was from Double Dash, the N64 version returned in Wii.

[@ACBlackJ0ck]

First Dekus, then Chaos and now Penguins. Matt, stop harming animals! :(

[@TomboyGamerGal]

Correction Johnny: Sherbert Land (N64) racetrack made its return in Mario Kart Wii. In MK8, that Sherbert Land is from Mario Kart Double Dash.

[@Xenoforge78]

17:06 Damn that was a nice move by Elliot.

[@supersaiyan12234]

Hey guys it's possible to cancel out slipping out. If u press the brake button before a spin out, you cancel the spin and the game gives u an indication that u canceled it with a music note on your character head, this also works on bananas every so often.

[@IWasAPerson1]

Mario Kart 64, loved this one so much as a kid yet it's got so many weird mechanics and programming problems that never got brought back. So two things: 150CC isn't supposed to be that fast. It's either a programming glitch or sloppy design choice. For 3 or 4 player multiplayer, they do a weird thing where they drop the framerate of the game and try to compensate for it by increasing the entire game speed. It didn't quite work out as well as they thought it would and they set it differently for different courses, and that's why Royal Raceway had an extremely fast countdown. It's nowhere near that fast in single player and 2 player (where you can still do a whole grand prix). The speedup on the DK course and Yoshi Valley is so ridiculous that it's practically 300CC. The other thing is that the spinning out has nothing to do with drifting. I can actually snake in this game consistently without any issues whatsoever. It has to do with how much you're overcorrecting when trying to turn. If you switch turning directions too quickly, it'll cause you to spin out. Nothing to do with accelerating. But if you do start to lose control, which either happens when you're about to spin out or if you get lucky with a banana, let go of the a button for a second. You'll get a musical note above your head and you'll avoid the spinout. Also, all of these problems were in the original cartridge. Virtual Console isn't doing any of this.

[@k-leb4671]

Your knowledge of this game is admirable.

[@Mojo1356]

Johnny nearly blew it in the second race. I’m glad he recovered.

[@VulxaniSolas]

I still remember the time my family and I were playing on Bowser's Castle. My dad had just gotten a blue shell, which we called Bluebies. (Don't judge). He was in the process of firing it when he got into first, where the blue shell fired, shot forward, spun around, and hit him in the face. Needless to say, that was awesome.

[@pootispencer4773]

"It's summer time, well, in America anyway" You made it sound like summer time is determined by the location, as if seasons work like time in different time zones.

[@MEMUEROOO]

Well im in a Argentina which is in South America and is winter here.

[@pootispencer4773]

MEMUEROOO Oops, excuse me. Had a bit of a brain fart and forgot how exactly seasons work in the southern hemisphere.

[@MEMUEROOO]

No problem ^^

[@MetalSnakeXIII]

6:15 (Note I'm commenting now before I watch the rest so if I missed something I'm sorry) No John,this track came back in Mario Kart Wii The one in 8 is from Mario Kart Double Dash...the one with the skating Shy Guys

[@MilanTheVillain01]

Fun fact: In Bowser's Castle, the Thwomps' laugh is actually Wario's laugh (when you select him) slowed down & pitched down.

[@Lakitu1134]

The Sherbet track you guys are racing in isn't in 8, it's in Wii. 8's Sherbet track is a recreation of the Double Dash one.

[@imahappyvirus5]

I love these. :D

[@TheKpa11]

I always liked the royal raceway and bowser's castle in mario kart 64, seeing peach's castle always made me wish I could go into it and that green thwomp in that cell was so interesting I always wanted to know if there was a way inside

[@tehSunBro]

Johnny 8s Sherbet Land is from DoubleDash not 64- Probably the main reason it looks nothing like Sherbet Land64 :D

[@HubPie3]

I do like the N64 Bowser's Castle, but compared to other Bowser courses, it's not that good. Then again, Bowser's Castle has always been my favorite course in any Mario Kart game, so I may be biased when I say I like this track. :P

[@BlueBladeofFate]

This shaped up to be the Wario Massacre of 2014.

[@pingasluigi25]

Wario actually graduated from Yale with a degree in Thermodynamics, but then he met Waluigi..

[@PanbanRichard]

The Sherbet Land that's in 8 was from Double Dash, not 64.

[@superluigi88]

The Sherbet Land in 8 was the GCN version btw. Make sure you can hear all the sound effects when playing because it gives you a fairly brief window to prevent a spin out via lightly applying the brakes as the little slide whistle thing plays. Here's hoping Matt knocks it outta the park next week too!

[@groudon2006]

In case you didn't know this guys, when you're about to spin out, press B (or what ever your Brake button is) and a music note will appear over your head and it cancels out the spin out, it works for bananas too but not if your turning.

[@smbmadman1]

6:13 Wrong, actually. This came back in Mario Kart Wii. The version of Sherbet Land you're talking about was from Double Dash, which came back in 8.

[@pingascolada]

6:07 oh no no no Johnny, THIS wasn't the Sherbet Land to come back in 8, THIS Sherbet Land was the one to come back in Mario Kart Wii I believe. The Sherbet Land in 8 was the one from Double Dash

[@dontyouhateitwhen...8312]

In Wario's Stadium, I've used that shortcut so many times that it saves time to win the race. Also, when I was 8, I was playing Mario Kart with a friend and when I used that same shortcut, he told me that I was somehow cheating. XD

[@stoneString93]

You CAN get a boost when the Lakitu places you back in the track but you have to be frame perfect for when your wheels touch the ground. It's tricky since there is a split-second delay between when your feet touch the ground and when Lakitu lets go of you. Also, if you're about to spin out from wiggling the control stick or from hitting a banana you can hit the brakes to slow down and your character will let out a word balloon with a musical note in it which cancels the spin out.

[@RenzyTheGreat]

You can also repeatedly tap the A button when you're hit by a red, blue shell and fake item box to quickly accelerate once they hit the ground after they are done flipping out in the air

[@ubermaster1]

You guys are thinking of the Sherbet Land from Mario Kart Double Dash

[@TheBoudreaux2392]

There were a few class specific changes in other games. In super mario kart the special cup could only be played on 100 and 150cc, and in double dash luigi circuit had a divider in 50cc, and it was removed for 100 and 150cc

[@mega1343]

Bowser's Castle was one of my favorites. In my top 5 fav maps in the game along with Shepert Land and Peach Castle.

[@TeeTop_]

Born to be Waaaaario

[@onesonicguy]

Pretty sure if anyone tried to give Wario a hug, he'd crush them due to his insane strength. And 3D Printers are pretty damn awesome of I say so myself...

[@Fliglaba]

Remember the man you saw with a Waynes world hat at TMGE? :D The part at wawa made me feel like a stalker :/

[@Machinany]

Been quite a few years since I played mk64 but if memory serves what happens with the spinning out is this. When your turning using the analogue stick without using the Hop drift you spin out after a period of time. If you hop drift you don't spin out but your forced to drift in a certain way. If I'm wrong other comments will correct me. Enjoying your races guys, keep up the fun times.

[@Nikdoog]

sherbet land 64 came back in wii, sherbet land gcn came back in 8. It's confusing because they both have the same name.

[@TopHatLucario]

Same with Rainbow Road, Bowser Castle and Mario Circuit. They all share the same name in the games.

[@AnvilAL94]

Spinning out of control has more to do with how sharp you turn a number of times in a row, Super Circuit had it worse I think. They also tweaked the drifting mechanics from MKWii onwards so that you wouldn't snake ahead of your opponents like in DS.

[@toondude78]

I honestly wish they left it the same. I understand that they don't want people that know the technique to have an unfair advantage but they already have an advantage if they're playing competitively to know such a technique. The new players would eventually learn it anyway so all they really wanted to do was just make it harder for advanced players to win(Blue Shell/Thunderbolt aside). They also nerfed the bikes because of the tilt to go faster gimmick they had in wii which honestly wasn't too unfair considering how awful the control started getting once you used it and the fact that the motion sensor likes to fuck with people and cause it to cancel out at random intervals.

[@AnvilAL94]

Well the bikes in MKWii were broken if you knew how to constantly spam the wheelie button so I can sort of see why they nerfed it in 8 I guess.

[@k-leb4671]

@@toondude78 You can wheelie without using the motion controls, though.

[@BassEX1]

Double dash has some minor changes depeding on the cc I belive the only change i can remember tho is Luigi Circit theres a wall on 50cc seperating the 2 lanes in the middle of the track but I dont recall anything else other than that.

[@Pixxeltrixx]

Matt dominating with Wario

[@rubytrix0]

Matt Wario voice is so funny.XD

[@SolarRayExE]

Randomly spinning out on the last lap cost me many friendships. Still wasn't as bad as Mario Party though.

[@Errox025]

N64 Bowser's Castle....I fucking love this track! Back when MK Wii's online was still active, I was almost unbeatable on this track.

[@videogamingfreak13]

I heard the music thing had something to do with the way the N64 processes sound since it apparently only had 1 processor for both video and sound.

[@jdfalcon08]

Bowser's Castle was my kryptonite as a kid and it is still my weakest track on Mario Kart 64 today.

[@derpymooseplays677]

same story for me, that was one of the only times that I have raged at a video game to this day

[@toondude78]

*Cough*Bowser'sCastleGBA*Cough*

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Ryoji Hatakane FUCK THAT TRACK IN WII.

[@derpymooseplays677]

Leopold Litchenstein i actually had no problem with that track. it never seemed that hard to me for some reason.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

It has too many tight turns for my taste.

[@Nanokoex]

There is music in multiplayer, but you can accidently cut it off by hitting the shoulder button during the match.

[@DerrickDTHs]

I gotta ask one thing, why doesn't Johnny edit in the final lap music? He edits in the normal versions of the song, but no final laps?

[@MicharionAQ]

Weird the Mario Kart series has two tracks called Sherbert Land. They also happened one console away from each other. Mario Kart Wii uses the N64 one while 8 uses the Double Dash which of course looks nothing like the N64 one.

[@IbukiMiodagaming2022]

Sherbert land from mario kart double dash!! returned in Mario Kart 8

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Moving the control stick when drifting is called "snaking," I believe. It's in 7 too I think. At least I always move the Circle Pad when I'm drifting to speed up the process.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

I know for a fact snaking was in DS though

[@Nyug3r]

Leopold Litchenstein Moving the controstick does not affect the drift boost at all after mario kart Wii.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Nyug3r Really? It does in 7 for me

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

It kind of speeds up the process of getting the little sparks when I do it

[@Nyug3r]

Actually not. The speed of the sparks appearing depends on how sharp you are drifting. The tighter the drift, the faster the boost appears.

[@BreakGlassForMemes]

Awesome!

[@jurfrokstar]

5:41 As stupid as this sounds, that's not a W on Wario's hat, it's an upside-down M.

[@MetalSnakeXIII]

No it's a W and it's clear it's a W....sure in the old games it looked like and upside down M but in later games it was edited to look like an actual W

[@jurfrokstar]

MetalSnakeXIII It was clearly an M in Six Golden Coins.

[@MetalSnakeXIII]

you mean the old Mario & Wario game for the Super Famicom?If I remember correctly that game was only released in Japan As for the M,That's because that game was mostly Japanese and Wario's name in Japan literally means Evil Mario,after Mario Kart 64 and almost every game that featured Wario onwards fixed the M into a W

[@videogamingfreak13]

jurfrokstar In case you haven't noticed with some fonts a W is an upside-down M.

[@jurfrokstar]

MetalSnakeXIII All that stuff you mentioned about the M is what I was referring to. And I was not talking about Mario & Wario, I was talking about Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins where Wario literally flipped the M on the castle upside-down.

[@shadic1988]

Sherbert Land came back in Wii. The one you guys were thinking was Sherbert Island from Double Dash.

[@AceTrainerCas]

The track in 8 was the one from double dash, this one came back in wii

[@Simisage99]

The Sherbert Land that came back in MK8 was the Sherbert Land from Double Dash!!!!

[@supersaiyan12234]

Guys the sherbet land your thinking of was from double dash this sherbet land came back in mario kart wii while double dashes came back in mario kart 8

[@LvLupXD]

The Sherbert Land in Mario Kart 8 is the Gamecube version from Double Dash.

[@rdpruett88]

Matt laying the smackdown in this part

[@Emoyo]

You have to press ZR on the classic controller to turn on the music in multiplayer

[@molliebrower7323]

Johnny no every time I played 3 player on the original n64, we always had the music playing...

[@Countsmegula]

Sorry to nitpick, but Double Deck uses the Block Fort tune.

[@kite9629]

please do round 2 on double dash XD

[@strangevision99]

You can get a speed boost when lakitu drops you but the timing is so difficult its easier to just lay off the gas until he puts you down. I've only managed it once, maybe twice and I've had this game since 1999....

[@Triforce9426]

It's not that the red shells go through walls in this game it's that when they're launched they just make in instant B-line straight towards whichever racer is in front of you rather than follow the track to catch up to the racer and THEN home in on them.

[@OsakaLover]

As opposed to the later games where it follows the track. Glad they fixed that up, was annoying knowing you could hit someone, but right as they go around a turn you see your shell hit the wall >.

[@xjboneyx]

at the beginning of the race at wario stadium, you can jump over the wall on the left

[@TomboyGamerGal]

Wario Stadium is the only racetrack that hasn't appeared in Retro Cup tracks. Every racetrack from this game appeared as a retro racetrack but Wario Stadium.

[@rsdk5259]

6:08 you made a mistake.. your thinking about the sherbet land from mk double dash. that was remade in 8

[@raysmashbrawl176]

John are you having a hard time with the music edits? Because the music doesn't even cover the entire track from each race. Can you use extended versions of each music track?

[@Raspthewolf]

I hope in the future he will do reviews or lets plays of the jak and daxter series

[@Robotvike1996]

2:35 is that a reference to final fantasy 13

[@allimayh.7794]

don't press the A button if you fall in lava/water or if you fall off course or you wont be able to go as soon as you get back on the track, just wait until all ur tires touch the track and if that doesn't work wait until lakitu moves away from you then press A, another note on sherbet land if you stay against the left wall youll be able to bypass the majority of the penguins as well as cut a small amount of time off your clock

[@fireheart4560]

Johnny... there is a sherbet land in double dash..... xD

[@soloman8855]

Some of the tracks are glitched to go twice as fast in multiplayer which is why lakitu counts fast sometimes.

[@MadDasher96]

In Mario kart double dash luigi circuit the median is removed on 100 and 150cc

[@pootispencer4773]

Listen-a up, kiddies! PV/T = const.! If you eat-a more hot chili and don't strain it-a, you will get-a more glorious gas! Wa!

[@comicking428]

These videos flat out prove Mario Kart 64 isn't the best Mario Kart. It may be one of the most nostalgic, but it's one of the worst in controls and the items do whatever they feel like.

[@TopHatLucario]

I feel like the original Mario Kart is the worst.

[@passing2010]

I don't think it's just the bad controls. I played MK64 plenty of times, and never ran in to the wall every 5 seconds. As for the items, you're kinda right. These red shells here are most likely the worst in the series, but every other item is just right.

[@mega1343]

Yep. This one, the first one, and the GBA one are by far the worst.

[@selder_7]

Yeh super circuit and super Mario kart are the worse and then this. If you compare it to crash team racing this game is just awful in terms of control, tracks, graphics, single player, content, boosting and item balance

[@k-leb4671]

@@selder_7 Crash Bandicoot knocked everyone out of the water in terms of pretty much all those aspects.

[@solidmario64]

How do you find all this info Matt?

[@symphomaniac]

If you go into Time Trial, the game shows how long each track is.

[@solidmario64]

Ah.

[@lionellfranklin1415]

Are you kidding me?! 5:54 Matt and Elliot jump in that frozen water 7:45 Matt gonna blow the lighting bolt and Elliot slip in the water 9:25 Elliot is way far behind 10:49 Matt just went through it how did he do that? And Matt takes the victory

[@ChaosWarpGaming]

I'm pretty sure it's not N64 Sherbert Land that came back in 8, it was DD/GCN Sherbert Land. N64 Sherbert Land came back in Wii I believe.

[@queenado]

So Johnny has fear of 3D printers. Now we know.

[@sethwarrior9719]

the ice level in mk 8 is from double dash

[@OsakaLover]

If you mash the A button as you're falling from getting knocked into the air, you'll actually accelerate faster, and if you hold B while hitting a banana peel (but not while turning or drifting) you'll be able to avoid spinning out. Just a tip for you guys next time ^_^

[@OfficialCyaned]

Its not that hard to drift into tight corners. I suggest slowing down or pressing the jump button when turning.

[@puppetmasterslair]

luigi: ride into.......the danger zone!

[@Lightsaga]

Man, Matt Just destroyed you guys this time. I approve.

[@LREHAnimation]

No, Johnny! The Sherbet Land in Mario Kart 8 is a remake if the Double Dash!! one.

[@LadyDecember]

/fans self uncontrollably/ Oh Matt, baby, tell me more about the distance of meters from start to finish for Rainbow Road...

[@bigvinny8806]

N64 Sherbet Land came back in Wii and Gamecube's Sherbet Land came back in 8!

[@RoseTadajiyuNakahara]

So...................i have no idea what to say without watching the video ._.

[@NaiblistheCurious1]

Wait. John, did you just say that N64 Sherbert Land was the origin of the MK 8 track? *That* is bullshit. *Sherbert Land* is also the name of the first Star Cup track in *Double Dash*, which is *obviously* the track the MK 8 track remade.

[@thegreatcooki]

I like how either the person you responded to deleted their comment or you're arguing with yourself.

[@NaiblistheCurious1]

I know, I should've deleted mine too. That guy was a stupid troll.

[@User-rp3sn]

NaiblistheCurious1 'Cept I was just joking about your *bolding* thegreatcooki He deleted it.

[@GigaLem]

6:15 this track came back in Wii not in 8

[@drdingaling]

Scores so far: Johnny: 25 Matt: 28 Elliot: 21

[@TheKpa11]

What is with that green thwomp at Bowser's castle is it defective? Over is it......."MR GREEN IS A LOOSE CANNON THWOMP WHO DOESN'T PLAY BY THE RULES!"

[@joshuacastellon7508]

12:07 15:09

[@Nel_Annette]

COSMOS (with new host Waaaahrio!)

[@ridleywolf1191]

Yah some Mario kart 69 yeah