Marine's sudden epiphany about her Maringlish [Hololive]

[@mashimaru8841]

Thank you ShabbySubz, from now on I will be known as Marshmallow-San.

[@shabbysubz4993]

oops, my bad.

[@mashimaru8841]

Haha you are all okay! If Marine calls me a Marshmallow then damn right im going to be a Marshmallow

[@ramramraider]

Time for a name change man

[@Mogumog_xixixi]

Your name was well fated 🙏

[@juldor93]

lmao

[@Voltlighter]

She talks about English being too fast while speaking Japanese at a machine gun rate lmao

[@RambleOn07]

Classic Senchou

[@mrindigo1069]

I have the same issue in reverse - my native English speaking is very fast by most accounts but I find Japanese too fast to pronounce the syllables.

[@RambleOn07]

@@mrindigo1069 nice on you, my man, to actually learn Japanese.

[@mrindigo1069]

@@RambleOn07 I learned a bit in school about 15-20 years ago, never practiced it, and then got inspired (guilted) to relearn it around HoloEN debut when I saw Kiara and Ina were both trilingual, and seeing all the JP girls putting in so much effort to learn English. If they can work at it, why shouldn't I?

[@br2877]

@@mrindigo1069 I got inspired seeing Korone and Okayu clips and realizing I desperately wanted to be able to watch these girls' full streams. I've been learning for just over a month now

[@tanyashosa3596]

i smile like a moron watching senchou, god how is she so cute

[@Ni70445]

My family probably think I'm werid smiling so hard 😂

[@KingSaheb0079]

Yeah, my family always gets sus of what I’m watching when I’m just sitting there trying my absolute hardest not to smile like a complete idiot.

[@LordZero666]

Same

[@akifnorzaimi]

She's so cute now I can't even smile

[@erjohn5404]

#Relatable

[@burnoutcat2387]

Her pronunciation is getting better! Who knows, maybe someday she will stop doubting when we tell her we love her!

[@crimsama2451]

Someday, shabby might be out of work because marine can just speak english more often lol

[@RambleOn07]

@@crimsama2451 the day shabbysubz becomes shabbyclipz

[@burnoutcat2387]

@@crimsama2451 he'll just have to put Japanese subs

[@Haunt888]

Be honest, none of any holomem improved their English at all, can't blame them tho

[@RambleOn07]

@@Haunt888 no

[@lyras.9161]

I mean, to be fair, she's lightyears better then she used to be. She can speak English better then I can speak Japanese now, so that's something.

[@THEGRAYGRIFFIN]

Relatable.

[@moderndayvampire1469]

The fact that Senchou can translate full english sentence without machine is already awesome in itself.

[@takodachi1239]

her English isn't that slow, it's the normal pace for beginner. The machine translated sentences sounds like Senchou japanese. The words are clear pronounced but the speed is faster than average.

[@jonp1952]

I was thinking the same. Her speed when she knows what she's saying isn't too bad. When she hits a word she doesn't know is when she speaks much more slowly. The machine translated text was too fast for me personally, a native english speaker. I mean I could understand it, but it was much too fast for casual speak. Only someone who speaks 500 wpm would speak like that.

[@atomicr4y472]

Her speed in English is kinda normal if you put her in the South or Midwest. Once you get North/Northeast the pace picks up in every way of life, speech included.

[@Colopty]

Yeah her english tempo is more relaxed rather than outright slow. Meanwhile the computer voice is in a real rush to get those words out fast.

[@animefan7424]

How fast does the machine speak in words per second? For ads, a 30s ad should be 75 words at max, or about 2.5 words per second.

[@obake6290]

The TTS voice sounded pretty normal to me (Midwesterner) until I tried to say it myself. I still think the pace is fairly normal for most sentences, but "well received" specifically is awkward to say and I had to slow down for it. Probably part of why we don't actually say that.

[@knicklichtjedi]

Her japanese feels to me way faster than of the average japanese person. Which would explain why she feels like her english is way too slow when she usually speaks a lot faster. (But could also be due to the fact that I only know a few japanese words.)

[@sanguillotine]

No, you’re right. Senchou does just speak fast in Japanese, that was the first thing I noticed when I first watched clips of her.

[@Micheldied]

She speaks really, really fast in Japanese compared to most people lol

[@greciasoleble]

it's true even in her bio on the Vtuber wiki, she is described as a fast paced talking girl, I remember even in some clips of her some translators had to put notes saying they couldn't translate what she was saying because sometimes she talks too fast. LOL

[@ShinyMcshine]

i think the only JP vtuber i've seen with a faster speaking pace than marine is tomoshika from VOMS, that girl is a serious motor mouth haha

[@datjp]

@@ShinyMcshine bro facts. She's insane.

[@thatsoab2545]

They want to remove the language barrier so that their fans from other countries can enjoy their content better. Meanwhile, many fans have been inspired to work on learning Japanese so that they can break the language barrier as well. It is such a beautiful thing to see people around the world wanting to connect with each other! Senchou's English is getting much better. Best of luck to her on being able to speak it fluently in the future!

[@fist-of-doom487]

Their is a thing called immersion learning. Which is basically throwing yourself in the deep end and figuring it out while you’re there. I’m attempting that and seeing how it goes

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

@@fist-of-doom487 I guess that's what I do from watching anime? I've watch anime since 2000's and I can understand Japanese better now

[@jackogrady3118]

You'll need to combine the immersion learning with other learning techniques, immersion only really serves to give you the opportunity to practice and hear more language than in other settings- if you aren't actively learning a language, immersion can actually be detrimental to language learning. You got this bro.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

It's so weird hearing super energetic Marine turn into a super shy girl whenever she gets stuck on a syllable.

[@yuuschzhie8822]

Was hoping instead she'd realize "oh, so this is how fast my japanese sounds like to english bros" lol

[@ElusiveEllie]

I mean, that's pretty much what happened. She realized that her speaking slowly and being shocked by fast English is just how someone new to Japanese feels when encountering a fast-talking native speaker

[@rafaelkresmar3998]

"Real english is amazing it's superfast." Well that's how I feel about Japanese. I know dozens of phrases and hundreds of words but as long as they aren't talking like they would to a toddler it's extremely hard to understand.

[@ichigoparfaitgatomaranai]

Dozens of phrases and a few hundred words actually isn't that much at all. Also you need to know grammar and be comfortable using and improvising with it to really get comprehension going. To even hold every day conversations you need to know thousands of words.

[@AceStrife]

@@ichigoparfaitgatomaranai ow.

[@ichigoparfaitgatomaranai]

@@AceStrife ehehe it's a harsh truth, it's so so great when you know those words and you feel excited to use them of course! But, it's also important to be realistic about how much work you need to put in.

[@deadmanzland]

@@ichigoparfaitgatomaranai as a dip shit who's bilingual and slowly realizing how lacking i am in my mother tongue (Spanish) it makes it really fucking hard to speak to my extended family since they're primarily Spanish speakers. My reasoning for allowing my Spanish to essentially stagnate into a beginner level; I was 10 when I moved out of my original birth state. From there on, I slowly lost the need to really speak Spanish. Woops. Rusty as hell now, though still got some the lingo and random intricacies shoved in my head. So, a little dedication and i could probably survive a week in Mexico.

[@Nonco-1]

Never thought of all people to be intimidated by fast English it'd be marine. She already speaks so fast.

[@dreamcore7]

That's quite a progress to be honest. Pronunciation could be hard but she managed to understand correctly. Good job 👍

[@ldobehardcore]

You really can teach an OLD dog new tricks

[@MyLullabye]

I can’t stand the cuteness that is Marine trying to say your message was well received by me, Thank you very much.

[@Kaimine08]

Your english is slow Senchou, but you're also learning a new language. That takes a lot of time. Don't worry about the speed. You're doing great.

[@cinna.meo.n]

If she thinks google translate is fast wait till she hears about Rapping

[@moderndayvampire1469]

Tbf she doesn't need to look far, there is Calli as her (old) slang teacher lol

[@atro7573]

Our lord ShabbySubz again brings us translated Marine Senchou goodness!

[@DuskWolf224]

Seriously, she understood that message really well! That's great!

[@YuSooKey]

She did prepay for months of English lessons and they are paying off. Her comprehension is much better than just a couple months ago.

[@flame5385]

She's so cute

[@jooot_6850]

Yes.

[@ZeR0W1]

I hope she realizes that we don’t mind if her English is slow, her speaking slower only gives us longer Maringlish moments

[@infernox1099]

Marine can read english surprisingly well, even if she can't speak it herself that well, I mean, she's doing great, even if she can't respond well, the fact that she understands us well means the world to us.

[@NoNo-tv4uv]

Why am I unconsciously smiling to a virtual girl, that was so cute

[@greciasoleble]

Because Marine is awesome

[@HuffdrewPaint]

A word like "received" must be a goddamn nightmare in that scenario.

[@AngelBattosai27]

Tbh she improved a lot. I remember when she was memed each time she spoke in english, but now she is probably one of the best english speaker among Hololive JP.

[@pzgamerch]

But why did she became so cute when she speak English. My heart can't take this.

[@monica_g456]

Damn, the JP girl's english are slowly getting better. It's really adorable seeing them try their best. Tenma from holostars is also doing great, he's like on his 40 day doulingo streak already.

[@principalflame5199]

Marine has improved so much- and her unaided reading comprehension! Proud of our captain.

[@LordZero666]

Marine laugh is so cute. I love when she just blurts out laughing in a creepy way. So cute.

[@greciasoleble]

when she was choking with water and couldn't stop laughing it was worrisome and hilarious at the same time.

[@dkosmari]

Don't worry, Marine. You can take as much time as you need. We want to listen, so we will be as patient as you.

[@Mogumog_xixixi]

Okay so there's 2 seiso marine, playing very scary horror game and trying English marine Both is love, both is life 🙏

[@Eresh69]

Thank you for the translation

[@fawkesandhound]

The machine’s pretty fast and it’s ok to speak a bit slower.

[@vyor8837]

Ya, that bot was on speed.

[@perthington]

" received " seems like a hard word to pronounce correctly. It's endearing to see Marine connecting with her English speaking fans. (the tl was actually fast too)

[@saceurai6629]

The problem is Received has this "cei" part being pronunciated with "si" like "six" sound, which doesn't exist in Japanese. Japanese people who are learning foreign language really struggle on word with "si" sound in it.

[@saniwada]

Her English is so much better now, I'm actually really impressed that she's improved so much. She may be slow but speed is the easy part and comprehension is far more difficult and important.

[@chickenbone_]

I love Maringlish, she always tries so hard to do it without looking it up. She's pretty good at it, too!

[@lqfr8813]

im more surprised how fast she is in mimicking the pronounciation to make it match

[@Slepepe]

2:30 Senchou: It's seriously fast. Real English is amazing. Us watching her: It's seriously fast. Real Japanese is amazing.

[@chaosngelx]

Her passion, her smile, and her laugh just invokes a, "Must Protectoooo!!", feeling in me.

[@hakalakalaka0.963]

meanwhile she speaks Japanese at like a billion words per second, especially if it's some otaku or erotic topic

[@sirebellum0]

Marine: English is so fast! Also Marine: Rapidly articulates a flurry of Japanese syllables without a 2nd thought

[@PenguinLord10]

This makes me feel a lot better about how insanely fast Japanese sounds to me. I guess it really is just a matter of familiarity with the language.

[@JustyHakubi]

I don't care how slow I will always love Marine's english.

[@RevivalOfSchwann]

wow wasnt expecting that she'll understand the message without translations, she's getting really good!! so proud of her!

[@al_alemania]

I can't help but be ecstatic Everytime she speaks English since she's improved so much

[@AutumnRa1n]

I love the use of different fonts for Japanese and english

[@Efosu33]

I love the memes at the end. Keep up the shabby work

[@relativelygoodlookingjack7728]

"I am also ᶜᵉ... ᶜᵉˡᵉᵇʳᵃᵗᶦⁿᵍ... my six ᵐᵒⁿᵗʰˢᵘ..." The speed with which Marine goes from a bombastic, confident speaker to a lost puppy is amazing

[@relativelygoodlookingjack7728]

By the way Shabby, I don't know if you're in the habit of making compilations but a "Marine vs Machine Translator" compilation of just her trying to repeat after her translator would be sweet, she most likely will mess it up but damned if she doesn't have spirit

[@thenumberquelve158]

I'm also someone who can't help but talk fast, and I trip over my own words way too much. (I also naturally play games fast without thinking things through very well.) I could learn a thing or two from these clips.

[@NoriMori1992]

I'm just impressed at how competently she read and translated the message!

[@BikoFactory]

Marine in Japanese: Zoomer Marine in English: Boomer Joking of course, it's great she's doing her best to learn!

[@InfiniteEscuro]

1:40 her hesitance in saying received was absolutely adorable.

[@blblbl115]

I'm currently learning Japanese, and... Ya know... This video really made me feel less self-conscious about my learning progress. Just "knowing" that full / fast English sentences to Senchou sounds the same as full / fast Japanese sentences do to me. It makes me feel alot less lonely in this struggle. :,) This has greatly eased the intimidation and challenging tension that surrounds language learning, and restored my confidence. Thank you Senchou for your accidental helpfulness. And, also to the creator of this video.

[@swampdonkey152000]

Maringlish is the cutest. We all love you, Marine!

[@UwU-xk5cx]

0:16 celebrating my

[@felynecomrade]

I love all the Japanese Vtubers who are learning English and I'm super proud of all of them. They do it so they can show more love to us overseas bros!

[@Papermoon72]

1:21 the laugh to live for

[@shizzlebizzfizz]

I loved that she realized that, now it would be funny if she noticed how she in particular speaks even faster lol

[@vaachubashrimpu2646]

I'm okay with senchou speaking each word slowly because its cute af

[@jooot_6850]

Yes, Senchou. We are always cheering for you

[@VC-cx8gf]

her reading comprehension is amazing, she understood and perfectly translated everything. her pronunciation is good too

[@seven5419]

God its feels like its been weeks since the collab with Coco and Haachama that started the maringlish memes. Its very nostalgic thinking back how english wasnt the girls' strongest points till they started reaching out. They have improved alot.

[@ElTovarish]

As someone who hasn't watched almost anything about vtubers since November last year, I'm deeply surprised by her English, like, last time she was able just to say "I'm beautiful girl" and "I'm horny", I'm impressed by her getting to this point!

[@edenromanov]

Oooh Maririn’s English comprehension and pronunciation has improved quite a bit ❤️

[@metalninja2474]

Marine gets a taste of her own medicine that us Japanese learners have trying to understand to her talking speed

[@RagnarLoudpak]

2:12 I wonder if this is what Japanese people hear when weebs try to imitate them

[@Elven_Red]

I see she understands now what I feel like when listening to someone speaking japanese

[@greciasoleble]

she complains that the english translation voice is too fast, the irony since her is well know for her fast pace speaking making sometimes difficult to understand what she's saying lol. Her slow Marinenglish is cute noneless.

[@hoodiesticks]

This is normal for anyone learning a language. One of my first instincts when I realize the person I'm talking to is still learning my language is to slow down my speech, and it's the first thing I ask of others when I can't understand them.

[@KWONEUNBl]

Holy shit, last time i watch Marine's speaking in English clips were last year from coco and Haato's collab she's trying her best that time and here she just spoke perfect English

[@bluecoin3771]

To be fair, real Japanese tends to be real fast as well. Take it from someone who took it in his last year of college. Yes, I know there are high schools that teach it, but mine taught every language but Japanese. We had a Czechoslovakian class but no Japanese? The world’s unfair sometimes.

[@ToxinStorm]

Listening to her speak english is one of the cutest things ever and I can't help but cheer for her whenever she does. Cuteness Overload 1000+

[@adriatical9016]

2:36 “It’s super fast. I can’t follow it. Overwhelming speed” as she speaks at Mach 5

[@SomeIdiota]

Language is so cool. I wonder if she knows how much of a motor mouth she sounds like to non-native speakers, hahaha

[@Puffleman24]

Marine: English is so fast Me, trying to practice my Japanese by listening to her: _pain ahoy_

[@KingKadem]

Wow, Senchou made quite some progress since the last time I heard her speaking English!

[@jackwithahat8601]

I always look forward to see the meme that Shabby posts in the end of the video

[@KizaruBorsalino]

She’s learning quite well. Impressive I can’t wait to see her collab with EN members. And i think she can’t wait either.

[@TheInstinctWithinV2]

It's the same exact way with non-Japanese trying to read Japanese to be honest. It was amazing the first time I was able to read Kanji and then realized what it said just as I sounded it out.

[@RickiTikkiTavi]

Honestly the best way to learn a language is to keep using it and practicing, so it's encouraging to see this effort being made. One thing I'll never understand is when they announce an English stream in Japanese and never in English, but that's almost all of them.

[@VortexDS]

But it's completely fine if it sounds like that. All that matters is she's trying =)

[@groerhahn225]

Her English classes are really paying off. I'm not a regular viewer of her streams, but even i feel oddly appreciated by her efforts. It's not like I think the other girls appreciate us less, but it'S hard to describe. It just feels nice and wholesome. I wonder where she'll be in a year, or even two. I hope she keeps it up, i would love to see a real conversation between her and Gura, i feel like they would really get along!

[@Vergil9O]

She's gotten so much better

[@KanuckStreams]

We are so proud of your progress, Marine-chan!

[@1.2.1.0.R.I.O]

Yeah, I download most of the Marine clips I see... No matter how many times I see them, I am guaranteed to smile. But the Marine punching Luna clip is my treasure. 😁

[@oscarreyes1056]

Oh my, when she started speaking japanese slowly I actually understood

[@joeyl.3007]

Marine’s such a sweetheart, I love it ❤️

[@vladislavivanov2334]

Marine has finally faced the pain those Who dare to translate her face everyday.

[@wolfdwarf]

The irony of her calling google's translate english fast when she is speaking lightning fast japenese....

[@elijahdage5523]

She's really gunning for being conversational. Nice work senchou!

[@awawagi-kun6608]

Wowwww I'm actually quite impressed, her translation is spot on.

[@Kiutsuki]

2:55 Yes Senchou, just as if we tried to talk in Japanese as fast as yours nothing but "bldifjehsushah" would come out of our mouths And I think it's beautiful

[@yurionedge2199]

1:54 That's what she said

[@johncicero5980]

Yes do your best! your english is improving !

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

Being able to read at all on her level is good enough

[@thegreatchrispy]

But that's part of WHY we love her :)

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Her English is getting pretty good. Very wholesome

[@zanard33]

If this is self-taught, that's amazing progress.

[@astrel8768]

not gonna lie i feel proud for this 17 year old pirate improving