Why is Harley DOING this?! | Harley vs MDB

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@bobberdude557
@bobberdude557 4 жыл бұрын
“Left handed, lesbian, Eskimo, midget.....”when did you meet my ex?!?! Classic and classy as always! Keep it up and keep it weird!!! 😂
@charlesferguson448
@charlesferguson448 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@Henry.58
@Henry.58 4 жыл бұрын
She is your ex also?! Damnit!
@DeiseRebel
@DeiseRebel 4 жыл бұрын
That got me 😂
@KraeseRepairs
@KraeseRepairs 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@jamessouthworth1699
@jamessouthworth1699 4 жыл бұрын
I think thats an old punk song i heard in the 90's It could be older, but I heard it in the 90s.
@StevyFaux
@StevyFaux 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Josh. Very well said. I was one that was upset about this whole thing with MDB. I’m guilty. I looked at Harley-Davidson as a culture that shouldn’t change and not a company. You have brought me back to reality. Not getting rid of my Harley’s anytime soon but I’m going to keep my Fury too. Bikes... that all you need it a Bike.. no matter what it is. Thank you Josh!
@mikejordan9754
@mikejordan9754 4 жыл бұрын
Stevy Faux in the house. 👍😄
@mr1bienvenu1
@mr1bienvenu1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 61 and I've had every brand of motorcycle there is. Just ride !
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@QBTO
@QBTO 4 жыл бұрын
Every brand ? really ?
@Ironpine27
@Ironpine27 4 жыл бұрын
@@QBTO Well not every single one like literally but all the well known ones probably.
@clintreece4590
@clintreece4590 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% they call it 2wheel therapy not Harley therapy or etc as long as you ride is what matters
@crawl3ysnipe
@crawl3ysnipe 4 жыл бұрын
Josh, thank you for your sensibility (for once) lol. I don't think Harley told MDB not to do business with Geelong, but not to film in there. They told Geelong not to let him film in there because the jokes were "offensive" to some people and they are a business. MDB has apparently done a lot of business with them and bought a lot of bikes to do crazy stuff with. I can't say I understand why Harley would make an advertisement like the one that started all this, but hey, their business. I'm going to continue to ride my brand new Softail Slim because I like the rumble and the look and the way I feel with the wind smackin me upside the head. What I don't get is why people aren't mad at MDB. He professes that he only makes YT vids to help those with mental health issues. I have seen quite a lot of videos of men who are really mad at HD for him leaving because now they don't get their "therapy" session with Bogan. That kinda tells me that MDB doesn't really care about his community much. If he was making videos for those who are hurting or depressed or what-have-you, then why did he abandon them? I have my own anxiety and other issues to deal with. I feel a bit more uplifted watching you or some other biker channels, but if you quit making videos, I'm still going to get on my bike and get in the wind. At the end of the day, it's not the person that helps you but the idea. Sorry so long. Have a great one, keep the rubber side down.
@charlesmansell6348
@charlesmansell6348 4 жыл бұрын
Like Bert said, I don't remember his exact words but essentially ,It doesn't matter what you ride just that you do ride.
@zugmeister314
@zugmeister314 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a LOT younger, I rode a 1983 Silverwing. Hung out with a few Harley guys and they were exactly the same way. What you ride didn't matter. If Harley riders were still like this (and Harley had kept improving their product) I'd probably be riding one today.
@esk8jaimes
@esk8jaimes 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny, people say that a LOT but aren't too comfortable when you mention preferring electric motorcycles... Double standards perhaps?
@TheGorillaBiker
@TheGorillaBiker 4 жыл бұрын
This. 100%. As long as someone is out of a car riding a bike enjoying life I'm happy with it :)
@zugmeister314
@zugmeister314 4 жыл бұрын
​@@esk8jaimes I think electric sounds awesome. For me, the Livewire barely has enough range to work as a daily bike, and my preferred trip of drive somewhere with trees (I'm in LV) and camp out is right off the table. Now I think of it, do people lose enthusiasm when talking about group rides? Having to stop to recharge every 125ish miles would suck for everyone who can gas up in 5 minutes.
@esk8jaimes
@esk8jaimes 4 жыл бұрын
@@zugmeister314 I do think ride-outs with electric motorcycles will still happen, albeit with regular stops (it's probably a healthy thing for the rider's attention span) If anything, stopping more regularly is good for local businesses and gives people more of an excuse to talk with others, do tourism stuff. That seems like quite a good thing, a unique selling point. There's something about not rushing from one place to the next and just enjoying the ride.
@paulhorvath9784
@paulhorvath9784 4 жыл бұрын
I'm So Glad You said that Regarding HD and MDB as Too Many KZbinrs are Riding the DRAMA TRAIN..Yes We All Like MDB mostly and No Use Getting the Shits with HD as It Doesn't Change my Perception on Riding. Awesome Vlogs Shadetree,,Keep it up.
@MuleBlanche
@MuleBlanche 4 жыл бұрын
The first realistic view of corporate HD and the Bogan controversy.
@paulhorvath9784
@paulhorvath9784 4 жыл бұрын
Nah,,I've been saint it for Weeks..Lol,,The DRAMA TRAIN KZbinrs..Pathetic..
@CHEVYK10
@CHEVYK10 4 жыл бұрын
Guess I'm out of the loop What happened with bogan?
@kawffeytheinkredible3295
@kawffeytheinkredible3295 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Corporations do what corporations do... period.
@mikeonabike7948
@mikeonabike7948 4 жыл бұрын
THANKYOU! Your level headedness about the MDB situation is exactly how I felt!!
@nicksundby
@nicksundby 4 жыл бұрын
Harley has far bigger problems than KZbinrs these days
@scruffycavetroll7547
@scruffycavetroll7547 4 жыл бұрын
And all because of Harley They are their own worst enemy
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 4 жыл бұрын
Lifestyle brand instead of a motorcycle brand.
@1mchartmann
@1mchartmann 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I heard on the news they did pretty good this summer with sales and are on the upswing now.
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 4 жыл бұрын
@@1mchartmann Pretty much every brand did. A lot of people who didn't have licences got those because people don't trust public transport. Used car market has also been hotter than in years. Same with RV's and campers.
@JohnnyXoz
@JohnnyXoz 4 жыл бұрын
@@1mchartmann My local dealer for every brand used to have 30-40 bikes out front, now they are lucky to have 5, they cant keep anything in stock, and people are asking $5k for a ninja 300
@MuppetVT
@MuppetVT 4 жыл бұрын
"Motorcycles make it better." Nothing more true has been said. Can't ever try to talk bad about Throttle Therapy. Bikes make everything better.
@Fausto_4841
@Fausto_4841 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle therapy combined with group therapy, nothing better than riding to the range.
@daveb1242
@daveb1242 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant, one of the best rants I've ever had the pleasure to listen to. Very clever stuff.
@wcraiderevo8078
@wcraiderevo8078 4 жыл бұрын
Been missing the rant videos! Keep it up. The chuckles are needed.
@GearsGadgets
@GearsGadgets 4 жыл бұрын
I can absolutely appreciate your position for sure.
@jessewhite1719
@jessewhite1719 4 жыл бұрын
I want to point out an extremely small footnote you said right before the video ended, but it rang so true with me. I also ride for a mental and emotional health reasons. Getting my motorcycle license, learning to ride, and getting over my fears was a testament to me kicking my severe panic disorder, anxiety, and depression in the ass. I always wanted to ride but my mind would not let me. May of this year, I passed the MSF and a week later I bought a 2017 Street Bob. I can't tell you how good it feels to say "Fuck you anxiety, I told you no, and won't let you ruin what I WANT to do."
@redhairedshanks5845
@redhairedshanks5845 4 жыл бұрын
My boi out here lookin like discount Wolverine xD love the vids keep it up man!
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
Quarantine was hard on wolverine too 😂
@byrddoggdjk
@byrddoggdjk 4 жыл бұрын
When you buy Wolverine off wish.com
@kennethmatte9008
@kennethmatte9008 4 жыл бұрын
Great value vs name brand
@redhairedshanks5845
@redhairedshanks5845 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadetreesurgeon hahahaha hey I'm not saying it's a bad thing
@davidcavin2064
@davidcavin2064 4 жыл бұрын
Love how you like what you like and care about what people think. And that you're comfortable with that. Right on
@ThatChuckGuy
@ThatChuckGuy 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first sane reaction to the HD vs MDB thing I've heard. I'm also questioning reality because I just implied that Shadetree is sane, but that's the world we live in.
@Surly34
@Surly34 4 жыл бұрын
Shadetree you have a great and open relationship with Bert's HD. I am interested if he would be prepared for you to broadcast a video of him discussing the use of third party tuners and how to disable the safety systems on a CVO. I would also be interested if this would violate his dealer agreement? This is where MDB went wrong. Nothing to do with PC or otherwise. Keep up the great content from the three of you.
@mitchellhogg4627
@mitchellhogg4627 4 жыл бұрын
"if I enjoy it. I'm gonna do it." Extremely foreboding words from a certified Florida Man
@jamesedmonds5100
@jamesedmonds5100 3 жыл бұрын
Damb straight, Harley is cool but not the end all be all. I've had Harley and Triumph. And Kawasaki and Suzuki and my fav Honda vtx 1800. Ride what you like. Then ride them all. Get a background to judge, not just a narrow opinion
@aaronduthoit1278
@aaronduthoit1278 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the most intelligent response I’ve seen to all this corporate complaining and youtubers acting entitled to anything.
@RoadsOfOz
@RoadsOfOz 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Finally someone speaking out about HD selling an image and people buying into it. One thing that is not discussed about why MDB stopped releasing videos is that the state in Australia that he lives in (Victoria, Australia) is in one of the strictest lock downs in the world. Once HD stopped MDB from producing videos in Geelong Harley. This prevented him from making content that is of the standards we are used to seeing from Danny. I am sure once the lockdowns are eased, MDB will have loads of content coming to us once again.
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, and honestly... every motorcycle manufacturer does it
@RoadsOfOz
@RoadsOfOz 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadetreesurgeon Absolutely. Look at Hondas old slogan "You meet the nicest people on a Honda". I have a Honda CB125E in the garage so they could almost be done retrospectively for false advertising
@gregdee530
@gregdee530 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoadsOfOz many years ago in Sydney Australia a Radio DJ did a live read for a Honda commercial, "... get something red hot and throbbing between your legs, ride a Honda" or similar wording. Probably 45 years later I still chuckle at it .thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/people-entertainment/2019/08/31/ward-austin-radio-sydney/ MDB while a fellow Aussie, seems a nice bloke, is entertaining, boasts about his self-made fortune (which I congratulate him for achieving; self-made people --- respect), sticks his head where it sometimes should not be stuck, and may have caused Colin to come into the spotlight. So maybe Daniel needs a little reality check too, for the benefit of the people around him.
@robpullen
@robpullen 4 жыл бұрын
That didn’t come across when he made that vid stating he’s basically had enough of HD and isn’t gonna make any KZbin vids any longer. He basically threw his toys out the pram due to them protecting the brand, rightly or wrongly.
@harleybvaughan
@harleybvaughan 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. The pressure on Geelong HD is what most of us are pissed about. But, we don't know if they had requested MDB to stop and then escalated to Geelong. Also, we are tired of the P.C. culture in general. Good Vlog Shadetree Surgeon!
@mintpaul
@mintpaul 4 жыл бұрын
totally agree, and HD shouldn't panda to the 0.5% to the professional complainers on the internet
@davidhelmuth6654
@davidhelmuth6654 4 жыл бұрын
Agree... Honda did the same thing. Anybody remember the “ you meet the nicest people on a Honda”. Well that about sums that up! Me like most vets ride for mental health reasons as well. On a side note PTSD sux! Be safe out there they are trying to kill us! 😂😬😂
@shawnseven9285
@shawnseven9285 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Vet, I ride for the same reason. Stay safe out there. Bugs in my teeth is the best mental health therapy.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 4 жыл бұрын
....with the inevitable result being an Evo-Gold Barge?
@South.Ern.Comfort
@South.Ern.Comfort 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for your service
@shawnseven9285
@shawnseven9285 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack Workin with a v star 1300 right now. Want something bigger
@kylemartin3746
@kylemartin3746 4 жыл бұрын
Riding has done more for my wellbeing than the VA has. Ride safe and keep up the fight.
@dadandmad
@dadandmad 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you dude. I love the Harley I own but I am not against other bikes, I like what I buy and I buy what I like. I too just want more people on motorcycles and have a reputation for sniffing out anyone who has had just a passing thought at some point in their life of owning a motorcycle and feeding that thought until they fulfil their motorcycle riding potential. Be that on a Harley or otherwise. I own my Suzuki Bandit for similar reasons too, they’re easy to work on, parts are common and cheap and they are hardy machines. Stay safe man.
@rmcdudtheyounger3221
@rmcdudtheyounger3221 4 жыл бұрын
Sunday morning wake and bake with Shadetree is a good thing. 😁
@danielpeters4468
@danielpeters4468 4 жыл бұрын
I knew I wasn't the only one lol
@josephmorris6090
@josephmorris6090 4 жыл бұрын
One of us one of us one of us
@riskylimits3991
@riskylimits3991 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah we are here!
@DaveWhite1979
@DaveWhite1979 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta take a 'safety meeting' Wednesday morning too
@felipedourado5721
@felipedourado5721 4 жыл бұрын
Great! You nailed it (again)! Your sense of humor and intelligence is always rewarding for us, viewers. Congrats fom Brazil.
@curtisdodson6903
@curtisdodson6903 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my 1996 fatboy because when I was young i saw T2 and said one day I will own one. Its cool to me thats what matters.
@adarngoodjoe4043
@adarngoodjoe4043 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you in part. I discovered MDB because of the controversy and really do enjoy his content. I think the real issue is how HD interjected themselves into a very personal relationship MDB, his local dealership and the KZbin community he shared it with. HD could've been indifferent about what others think about them just as you are. Instead, they chose to impart their will on a relationship for the sake of those that were not party to the relationship.
@mintpaul
@mintpaul 4 жыл бұрын
exactly and they are more worried about the feelings of SJW professional cry babies who probably don't ride than the audience who do and like the MDB vlogs
@matthuber1333
@matthuber1333 4 жыл бұрын
They ALWAYS do this.. this is their style. has been since the 80s. They do it to their employees, they also like to fire temp employees on day 89 because they have to hire after day 90, only to replace with new temps. Aka "club 89". Wash rinse and repeat.. They do it to their customers all the same. They Void warranty for mods they themselves sell, they blame customers for design flaws when it kills them. Hell they even do it in many of their ad campaigns. In short, I'm a Milwaukee native. There are 2 camps in the "I don't like HD" minds. One doesn't like them because they don't like their products. The other has no problem with their products but won't ride one because of their corporate attitude, actions and experience. They Dog MDB, but they sure love Katy Perry and Jason mamoa.... All this is why many were very happy when another American option came about , for better or worse. Welcome. #HDkoolaid Cheers.
@hollowaysteve
@hollowaysteve 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. A friend who has been a lifelong Harley fan and up until last year bought nothing but Harley’s for 20yrs, purchases an original Low Rider S (to keep his XR1200X company). He’s not a thrasher, only HD official dealers were allowed to touch it. It had a full service history. Two weeks out of warrantee the cam chain tensioner let go and it took the crank with it, snapping it. HD wouldn’t help at all. His dealer stepped up and gave him the parts at cost and did a bit of a deal on labour. It still cost him $4k. He rides KTM now...
@matthuber1333
@matthuber1333 4 жыл бұрын
@@hollowaysteve I have 3 shops in my area who each employ around 20 folks full-time to rectify exactly what you highlight. They also address factory bent cranks with unacceptable run out, and for broken pressed together cranks they offer a welding service. HD has always known it's an issue and did next to nothing about it year after year after year..
@hollowaysteve
@hollowaysteve 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Huber Just look at the twin cam88 debacle. It’s a poor quality, cheaply made item sold at a premium price and they’re still doing it. It’s a shame. I’m not anti HD (I had an XR1200X and they’re bullet proof) but I am anti HD corp. the big blocks are made cheaply. (Can’t comment on the latest Milwaukee 8 engine but the rest of the bike is cheap). The dealers are the only thing keeping any of the HD reputation intact. I don’t know how long that can last.
@matthuber1333
@matthuber1333 4 жыл бұрын
@@hollowaysteve yup yup.. They knew exactly what was wrong, how to fix the cam shoes that wore prematurely, best case, failed worst case. again, they did nothing for years but they sure made good money selling cam tension shoes! Don't even get started on failing brakes clutches and sometimes fatal frame/swing arm failures. (That they knew about and blamed on customers..I'm also not anti HD. I call my stance on them, "though love" as I mentioned my area before, HD and the aftermarket employs so many in my area, from small coating shops, to multi hundred person factories. I'd much prefer them to do well, than burn them self's down.
@davidcrooks1752
@davidcrooks1752 4 жыл бұрын
3:48 Flip Na for POTUS. 1. Rides bike that saves the planet 2. Gets someone else to make the loud motorcycle noises 3. Gets the noisy person to carry his stuff Anyone able to achieve these objectives, could easily run the 🇺🇸. Probably the 🌎. Shadetree for Vice? 😃😃👍🇬🇧
@billhill7330
@billhill7330 4 жыл бұрын
I've only owned a vintage HD because I'm poor
@jjgeorge7728
@jjgeorge7728 4 жыл бұрын
Brother I own a 83 lowrider and a 15 fatboy and I get more joy out of the 83 death trap shovel that doesn’t always like to start and makes my leg sore. But when it comes alive it’s hard to beat.
@billhill7330
@billhill7330 4 жыл бұрын
@Addicus Taylor Its a 94 sportster... never had any serious issues
@paulhealey8221
@paulhealey8221 4 жыл бұрын
@Addicus Taylor My vintage motorcycles are worth more everyday I own them. Can’t say that about that poor sap who bought that dead wire and now wants to trade it in! Basically he’s totally screwed in terms of resale and trade in value. Even the dealers can’t sell those novelty items called live wire.
@clintreece4590
@clintreece4590 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 78 ironhead that I love to ride it but it a lotta up keep my 06 harley is get on and ride
@ElTacoish
@ElTacoish 4 жыл бұрын
Amen brother. You’ve voiced my own opinions of the whole MDB situation perfectly and more elegantly than I ever could. Thanks man.
@mattbroussard7409
@mattbroussard7409 4 жыл бұрын
Love your analysis Josh! One of the best online "rants" I've seen! More than a machine commercial was awesome!!! Better than the Jason Mammoa things! It was really cool seeing you ride down town on the FXR. Take the Goldwing over there.
@gallegorider149
@gallegorider149 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video .. laying it out in reality is what makes your videos awesome to watch you .. a great perspective from someone on the front line .. and it was needed ... Josh, thanks.
@Damiv
@Damiv 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so optimistic to think HD will be around 40 years from now lol.
@sivvinod3187
@sivvinod3187 4 жыл бұрын
They will. But they'll either be Chinese owned OR they'll stop selling bikes and settle on selling just t-shirts.
@michaelreilly3235
@michaelreilly3235 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for injecting a dose of truth into the MDB discussion. Accurate and to the point.
@spencerb8609
@spencerb8609 4 жыл бұрын
I ride what i like. HD motorcycles are sexy a f**k. Screw the image, ride and enjoy life.
@kennethhigdon1159
@kennethhigdon1159 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my first Harley because it was loud and fast. It was a 1975 xlh1000 . Now I have a 2016 Triglide and I love my lazy boy recliner with wheels. That has a great stereo system and gps and cruise control
@life_behind_bars
@life_behind_bars 4 жыл бұрын
Wait you mean my Harley doesn't make me a rebel outlaw😫. Ha ha just kidding, love the video as always and I agree with you 100%.
@BunnyKingHogs
@BunnyKingHogs 4 жыл бұрын
Harleys are like a piece of art now
@ClutchFirst
@ClutchFirst 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a great take on the MDB situation. It’s always very enlightened to hear different opinion on business/marketing and keeping a company in the black. I think most people tend to drink the juice when it comes to subtle and affective marketing. Good vid.
@MotoMengy
@MotoMengy 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point of view on MDB, well spoken. I do personally feel HD goofed up with the MDB situation though, they've turned a non issue into something negative for them, in a time when they really don't need any negative press going on.
@zugmeister314
@zugmeister314 4 жыл бұрын
Watching what's going on with Harley is kinda like watching a slow motion multi car collision where you're trying to identify the pieces flying through the air. It's horrifying but you can't stop watching it. And there's nothing you can do to stop it happening either.
@ThrottleFiend
@ThrottleFiend 4 жыл бұрын
BINGO. If HD just left it alone or didn't make as big of a deal out of it as they did, most of us would probably have never known. They brought a flamethrower to start a grill.
@particleinthewave8378
@particleinthewave8378 4 жыл бұрын
I’m no fan of “cancel culture” or the level of political correctness these days but that’s not to say that the PC movement didn’t come from a need to help old straight white guys understand that what they may consider a “non issue” is in fact an issue!
@ThrottleFiend
@ThrottleFiend 4 жыл бұрын
@@particleinthewave8378 Agreed. We need more understanding. I don't care who you are, as long as you're a good person and riding. We can't all agree on everything, it's not human nature. As long as we're "Be excellent to each other," everybody wins.
@dennism1919
@dennism1919 4 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@sparrowstudios615
@sparrowstudios615 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFULLY WORDED THINGS EVER. Like... I’m oddly inspired right now. Thank you for the great content, as always, muh dude! 🤘🏻
@jerryhughes6844
@jerryhughes6844 4 жыл бұрын
Shade tree surgeon, I think you need to lecture the executives at Harley Davidson on how capitalism works. They certainly priced me out and now our local Mega Harley-Davidson dealership is shut down out of business. Sad but true
@friendlyneighborhoodbikeme8535
@friendlyneighborhoodbikeme8535 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell do they expect someone to buy a motorcycle for $40,000 that cost them less than 10,000 to build?
@jerryhughes6844
@jerryhughes6844 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I just want a motorcycle payment not a house payment. Not to mention that some of the new bikes have that technology were just runs on one cylinder at the traffic light
@run4st717
@run4st717 4 жыл бұрын
@@friendlyneighborhoodbikeme8535 same here in my town...closed it down...but they sucked anyway...shop and parts were rock bottom skill wise.
@ArthurNava
@ArthurNava 4 жыл бұрын
@@jerryhughes6844 You have to engage parade mode in order for it to work on one cylinder, it's not automatic.
@nicolewalker5349
@nicolewalker5349 4 жыл бұрын
Shadetree surgeon makes sense of a non-sensical situation....wait....what??? Seriously this is the most constructive and honest point of view of the while MDB situ. MDB really needs to just go for a long ride, catch up for a cold one with some mates and enjoy his bike...
@BigSmittyRiding
@BigSmittyRiding 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this vid and I’m one of the guys who made a vid pissed at HD! Great thoughts and I enjoy the comments! Now I’m gonna go look for a left handed Lesbian Eskimo Midget and see if they wanna get nasty with me!!!
@JohnDoe-pf6qp
@JohnDoe-pf6qp 4 жыл бұрын
The Harley enthusiast is a double edged sword for HD: on one hand they will buy the Harley no matter what. The competition could have a cheaper bike that's more reliable with better performance specs and the Harley loyalist is not even going to consider it. On the other hand people like that start to take a sort of "ownership" in anything and everything HD does, because they believe HD is selling them a culture as much as a product. So HD does risk upsetting those loyalists with run of the mill business decisions that if they were coming from Yamaha would piss off zero Yamaha riders.
@jawz3102
@jawz3102 4 жыл бұрын
You're right. Imagine a V4 balanced crank 1200cc fuckin buell lightning with a 240 rear. Goddamn. Fuck it I'm building one.
@M63Tod
@M63Tod 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best lesson on economics. Love it. Cheers.
@jerrymontgomery5928
@jerrymontgomery5928 4 жыл бұрын
Hell I work on and build AMF Harley's. My favorite bikes were made by a bowling ball company. The Easter Bunny thing. That's pushing it.
@erickent3557
@erickent3557 3 жыл бұрын
My dad worked for AMF in the 60s with their orbitread tire retreading machine. He worked with a German electromechanical engineer, who my dad claimed, ended up being the guy that told the AMF board to buy HD so that the brand didn't disappear. A German, telling AMF to "not let such an American icon die". The AMF years for HD may not be the best, but maybe some interesting history.
@Cipher-du4cp
@Cipher-du4cp 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a voice of reason regarding MDB!
@gears101
@gears101 4 жыл бұрын
It happens and people get over it. I'm an example . When Harley outsourced its first overseas part I was like nope I will no longer buy a new Harley and I am sticking to the old ones. I bought a new one later. They did it again and I said nope I am done with new ones for sure .... Bought another new one. Just have to accept change will always happen and your either going to ride the wave or fall off
@johnalbright8093
@johnalbright8093 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped at Evo's. Haven't wanted or bought a new Harley since '89. Any time I want a new scoot to ride. I build a new one then ride the wheels off of it. What got me was how they jacked the price when all the rubs started buying 'em
@gears101
@gears101 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnalbright8093 I currently have a 16 RG and I'll probably stop there unless I get a Tri-Glide . Copd getting the best of me lol
@jasonbray9994
@jasonbray9994 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content I love all bikes my uncle was old school and taught me to appreciate them in all there splendid glory it never made him think about brands he just loved the RIDE.
@nickyou4990
@nickyou4990 4 жыл бұрын
Omg you just ruined my day. How can you tell me that the Easter Bunny's not real 😑🤣🤣🤣
@jimgentz7874
@jimgentz7874 4 жыл бұрын
Considering this is one of my son's (5) favorite channels, I had to tell him that he was just kidding about that part... 😬
@knighthawk25u
@knighthawk25u 4 жыл бұрын
Ah! My man Shadetree with some words of wisdom. If its got two wheels and makes you happy, doesn't matter what it says on the side.
@derickdandy275
@derickdandy275 4 жыл бұрын
I love MDB videos! But the real question is, where the hell is John Maxwell?
@stevenking2469
@stevenking2469 4 жыл бұрын
To much work not enough time for videos. He wanted to be a small business owner! Be careful what you ask for!! I called to make an appointment wanted to get him to work on my bike we got interrupted,he took down my number and still have not received a call back!! Too late now the work is done!!!
@ricofico
@ricofico 4 жыл бұрын
John's running his buiness.
@MrJobus71
@MrJobus71 4 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I love your content. Brutal honesty give me a chub. Keep it going brother.
@drjcwardjr
@drjcwardjr 4 жыл бұрын
Your reactive soliloquies are always emotionally and vocally gymnastic...and very entertaining! They remind me of a scene in a Steve Martin movie/comedy where Steve played the part of Cyrano de Bergerac. In that movie, there is a scene where Steve/Cyrano verbally dresses down a bully making fun of Steve/Cyrano’s noticeably large nose! Brilliantly funny! If you have not seen it, I think you might enjoy that movie!
@youmustbethistall5861
@youmustbethistall5861 4 жыл бұрын
You are referring to "Roxanne"...
@drjcwardjr
@drjcwardjr 4 жыл бұрын
@@youmustbethistall5861 yes...great Steve Martin movie!
@xxkalevalaxx
@xxkalevalaxx 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Sunday preaching Shadetree, good bless you and your crusty glide
@The_Broken_Cowboy
@The_Broken_Cowboy 4 жыл бұрын
Love playing the will it start game! Had to play that a few times over the years with some of my own cars and bikes haha!
@strawmantee3085
@strawmantee3085 4 жыл бұрын
Its highly addictive
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
What can we say, we just love to roll the dice
@squish3r
@squish3r 4 жыл бұрын
My first bike had a "startup procedure" to get it to reliably light off. Old Honda but finicky like a British bike 😂. 1. Twist throttle to squirt the accelerator pump. 2. Choke (not enricher circuit!) 3. Pray 4. Crank. You got 3 tries before the starter overheated and then you got to wait for 30 minutes
@j1d355
@j1d355 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, i’m so glad that angry shadetree just got back to spit its understanding of the world to good thinking rest of us. First reason i ever hanged out around here. Love u man!
@andrewsumner5388
@andrewsumner5388 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Harley a great deal however i removed the brand name from my tank because that’s the look I like and it’s my bike not Harleys! That being said Shadetree I really hope to drink some cold beverages and have some laughs with you some day your show is awesome thanks for good times and as you’d say keep it weird.
@danieljennerman7549
@danieljennerman7549 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a large v twin thing. My TL1000S is in a pretty good state of tune but sometimes it can idle itself into a stall. A light blip of the throttle or two spins it back into a stable idle.
@nitrofish8908
@nitrofish8908 4 жыл бұрын
I just love hearing your voice 😂 seriously makes me want to buy jankier bikes just for fun
@shadetreesurgeon
@shadetreesurgeon 4 жыл бұрын
You have more fun on crappy bikes!
@DjKaiser84
@DjKaiser84 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, these videos make me want to go straight to craigslist. Not sure a harley can tickle my pickle as much as much as my dirt cheap vtx 1800.
@Frankfoot986
@Frankfoot986 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a janky 1996 dyna super glide. Also have a perfect road glide. Dyna is way more fun. Road glide is TOO reliable to be fun.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Bradenton for 35 years but we moved to southeast Alabama and sold the Florida house. I live in a small farm area now and it is great motorcycle country and have rode more in a year than I did in Florida in the last 10 years. With all the cash I made on the sale of my Florida house I bought a better house for cash on a huge lot built a new shop bought three more Harley's and still have cash in the bank. I remember those old commercials I still have a 72 FLH but I have never bought a new bike my newest bike was a 2002 FLSTC I bought last year and sold it and my 01 FLHRCI and bought a 98 FLSTF. The only non Harley Davidson bikes i had was a 46 and a 48 Indian Chief back in the 70's and early 80's. Good video. .
@tagyoureit4500
@tagyoureit4500 4 жыл бұрын
This is so refreshing as a Aussie rider I'm sick of all the Harley Davidson bashing over the MDB bs and I feel the same as you. At the end of the day MDB got a smack from daddy HD corporate he just needs to suck it up and get on with it
@shooter-vx7xy
@shooter-vx7xy 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a PC issue. I think it has more to do with him lying to police, crossing borders illegally and putting it all on KZbin. He also talked about how his dealership cut the wires on his traction control (which could get them sued) and then said Harley had a big problem with their traction control when they really don't. He modified the bike with a cam and aftermarket tuner. The traction control was doing what it was supposed to do. He said a lot of things in that video that could get HD and the dealership in trouble. I think the PC idea was just a good excuse or final straw for HD to step in.
@tagyoureit4500
@tagyoureit4500 4 жыл бұрын
@@shooter-vx7xy yes I think the same but that video is still up the non PC vid is taken down
@markhenry192
@markhenry192 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Shade tree. Good to see a different perspective on the MDB vs HD. I was initially drawn into WTF are HD doing but a few folks like yourself have pointed out that HD are not here to pander to us and our right on, rebel without a cause bull, they are there to sell motorcycles period. I get that. Thanks STS
@ssmit80
@ssmit80 4 жыл бұрын
I think the whole Harley vs MDB thing is jist a sign of the times. They made alot of gay jokes and stuff like that. Some people are quick to be offended, and Harley, just like any other company, wants to protect their image. I miss the MBD videos, but understand why Harley would not want that kind of publicity.
@jeffreyhaynes5722
@jeffreyhaynes5722 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Harley wanting to protect their gay image.
@jeffwalker1322
@jeffwalker1322 4 жыл бұрын
The people Harley is afraid to offend don’t buy their bikes anyway. They should be worried about pissing off their customers which is what they did.
@waygone6657
@waygone6657 4 жыл бұрын
At about 16 minutes in; and you can remove and replace spark plugs with a 6 inch adjustable wrench, and rebuild the top end on the engine and rebuild the transmission without pulling them. Yes, compared to many other bike they are super easy to work on even if HD is trying to change that in some later models.
@kyleryneost
@kyleryneost 4 жыл бұрын
“This whole bike is unnecessary” If it dies rebuild it
@timlewis5480
@timlewis5480 4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness someone has the nerve to tell the truth. I have a Harley-Davidson because I love my Harley-Davidson. Corporate America has but one purpose, to make money and if you think they’re concerned about any one individual, your sadly mistaken. Love your honesty. Keep it coming. People need to quit taking life so seriously and just enjoy it,,,,, on a motorcycle.
@rickf1369
@rickf1369 4 жыл бұрын
I love capitalism!
@donsvideos1985
@donsvideos1985 4 жыл бұрын
In 1987 I bought a chopped 55 Panhead with a 6" over wide glide front end. This thing was such a pile it made Barf Party look a like state of the art reliability and beauty. I LOVED IT for over ten years! I miss My old Pan so much. I only sold it because I needed money for the down on a house!
@snowyr6260
@snowyr6260 4 жыл бұрын
The “get a real bike” guys really just ruin Harley. They’re just old fat ego riders who look angry when they ride. It really turned me away from Harleys for a long time, but then I realized if I didn’t get a Harley just because of them I’d be no different than the ego riders. Sold the r6 and got a dyna and Fell in love immediately, looking the get a bagger for longer rides and another sport bike for when I feel the need, the need for speed. Till then I’ll continue to ride around with a huge grin on the dyna. Great video keep it up 👍
@parsivalshorse
@parsivalshorse 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. The biker image Harley adopted and promoted for so many years is a HUGE negative now in terms of reaching new buyers. It has to distance itself from the bearded, misogynistic pretend outlaw shit or it will die.
@karma6026
@karma6026 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment and appreciate that this man takes the time to go through all of his comments and actually reads and likes them
@catmanflorida8545
@catmanflorida8545 4 жыл бұрын
I play this game with my dirt bike.
@usMarinecuv902
@usMarinecuv902 4 жыл бұрын
Me too hahah
@terrillwolf2552
@terrillwolf2552 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with your thoughts and commentary on HD corporate vs MDB; too many others taking it personally and making it into a bigger deal than it really is. Thanks for your down to earth realistic attitude.
@johngifford7725
@johngifford7725 4 жыл бұрын
What did the Harley Davidson say to the drunk Irishman? Potato potato potato potato potato potato potato......
@bluesman7703
@bluesman7703 4 жыл бұрын
Dig the old Harley !!! Davison that is !!!
@James-qr5hx
@James-qr5hx 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with why you own a harley, being able to work on it yourself, parts, customisation and sound. All why I want a pre-softail Harley, traditional air cooled engines ftw
@ctscantechnologist
@ctscantechnologist 4 жыл бұрын
Harley has the freedom to be PC as I have the freedom to trade my hog for a BMW R18 and enjoy freedom from being PC.
@stevetaylor9265
@stevetaylor9265 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I am getting a Yamaha next
@BigDumbo
@BigDumbo 4 жыл бұрын
The more videos I watch the more I grow to like and respect your opinions. Keep it up!
@czarekp3552
@czarekp3552 4 жыл бұрын
Criminals (sons of anarchy) riding HD motorcycles - good Positive and free of charge ambassadors for the brand - no good Got it
@neodutch
@neodutch 4 жыл бұрын
Did HD endorse the TV show?
@czarekp3552
@czarekp3552 4 жыл бұрын
@@neodutch Did HD distance themselves from the tv show?
@stephentaylor3787
@stephentaylor3787 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t remember the season but when the SOA started riding the Baggers it was done in conjunction with a relationship with HD according to Kurt Sutter....
@neodutch
@neodutch 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephentaylor3787 That's because they didn't. Most rode Dynas up until the end.
@stephentaylor3787
@stephentaylor3787 4 жыл бұрын
@@neodutch so Kurt Sutter doesn’t know what he is talking about? He has said in numerous interviews that the show had a relationship with HD during the middle seasons........
@jaynedoe1959
@jaynedoe1959 4 жыл бұрын
Shadetree, I gave you a thumbs up & always do. I hadn`t heard you say "more of us on 2 wheels/less of them" lately, so there`s that. I hope we get to meet one day & maybe ride, but I am a left handed midget lesbian Eskimo. I noticed you stayed away from the crux of the biscuit & instead made it about "corporate" but it isn`t. The rallying cry is about some self serving right wing hate spew they seem justified in. They believe they have some RIGHT to be purposely offensive to hurt & incite violence, by shaming, name calling. Sure, among friends we take liberties & make fun, but when it`s not among friends & it`s not good natured then it`s not fun & can be downright dangerous. You managed to OMIT ALL OF THAT. I didn`t see the controversial bogen vid. I`ve only ever seen a few of his & stopped watching after he CONTRIVED a Harley DROWNING in the surf. What PUTZ doesn`t know BETTER than to put a 900 lb bike in SOFT SAND? (As the TIDE COMES IN, NO LESS?) I mean, talk about your click baiting! The "right" likes to turn good words into bad. Like LIBERAL (Means MANY) The opposite being MONO (One, monarch, tyrant, dictator, king) Liberal gives you the RIGHT to VOTE & CHOOSE, to be INNOCENT until proven otherwise by a Jury of your PEERS. Political correctness is only a matter of being fair, polite, kind & keeping the peace. The jackasses making a big deal about their "right" not to? Probably deserve a beat down to keep their mouth shut & sadly, that`s where we are at. You didn`t address ANY of that, really & IMO you copped out! Should have just left it alone, but don`t expect a lesbian midget Eskimo on an Ironhead to!
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 4 жыл бұрын
MDB has posted several things that align with his right wing politics including attacking his own government for requiring masks .. If you don't want a company to draw a line in the sand maybe talk more about motorcycles and keep your political leanings or prejudices out of the equation . I think he knew that some of his content was going to adversely affect the Dealership which was an innocent party in this debacle . Now he wants to whine about the outcome he got ? Give me a break 🤣
@duckman2667
@duckman2667 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for setting everyone straight. Especially for just telling the truth. I’m the same way, I just love to ride, and to me that’s all that matters. I have a Harley-Davidson as well as a Kawasaki KLR 650 two different bikes for different styles of riding. I seriously respect you for bucking the trend and speaking your mind. Now that’s a rebel. Duckman out.
@axemblue3598
@axemblue3598 4 жыл бұрын
I freakin love this dude and his outlook on shit. Keeps it real.
@CarlosAnthonyLopez
@CarlosAnthonyLopez 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for your input on this, and I couldn’t agree more with it!
@craiggreygoose5594
@craiggreygoose5594 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Huffy bar pad
@michaelwhite5834
@michaelwhite5834 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's funny/ironic
@daveo226
@daveo226 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you dude on your Harley Davidson outlook, hit the nail straight on the head 💯% 👍
@birdatkinson1
@birdatkinson1 4 жыл бұрын
I just had a new Scrambler XE delivered this weekend partly due to your review on it. Thank you for your love of all things 2 wheels!
@cabby316
@cabby316 4 жыл бұрын
"I just like bikes man" that is the key sentence right there. I love them and will always have one in my garage, cheers, 😎😎😎
@markbrooks5142
@markbrooks5142 4 жыл бұрын
Well said! Ride what you want and stuff what ever the corporates think and do!
@martincornish3179
@martincornish3179 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Josh totally agree with what you say.
@lazgyrorider3894
@lazgyrorider3894 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. I like how you tell u'r side of the strory....
@TheRealLennox
@TheRealLennox 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best brother! Keep dropping that knowledge!
@arthurleino
@arthurleino 4 жыл бұрын
I just parked my 1983 FXWG after a little ride. Good insight on this. I ride my Harley Davidson because I like it. I liked all the motorcycles I ever owned in my 67 years. Keep two wheels upright!
@simplybiking
@simplybiking 4 жыл бұрын
It’s strange and at the same time funny how often people these days have to state the obvious/logical/rational and regroup the masses to some semblance of rational thinking . And you did it very well here Shadetree. Advertising and marketing is just that! All a ploy to make money, as in, the American way. Thanks man. 👍
@themancalledfreak1384
@themancalledfreak1384 4 жыл бұрын
Putting a bike together for my daughter. 1996 Honda Shadow VLX 600. She and I set and watch your channel every week!!
@775joshua
@775joshua 4 жыл бұрын
Im getting into them because of you, I've been riding for 25 years starting off on dirtbikes as a kid. I'm saving up for a road glide
@willieking1017
@willieking1017 4 жыл бұрын
I love to ride motorcycles and I don't care what kind they are either, love watching your videos
@misterj5045
@misterj5045 4 жыл бұрын
I tell all my friends and fellow mechanics at work, that fixing my Harley bikes are almost as simple as working on my lawnmower. I truly believe they are great simple machines, and that is why I own and ride them.
@brianheffernan8982
@brianheffernan8982 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Josh. People need a good dose of truth from time to time. You have a great week.
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