The Keyblade is TRASH!

[@seanwhitehall4652]

To answer the issues brought up in the first 2 minutes: yup it's much more key than blade. It is not a practical weapon. Square Enix, the company behind Final Fantasy, and Disney teamed up to make a game. Square likes swords and guns. Disney wanted kid-friendly. The solutions was "what if our main character swings a giant key, not a sword"? Disney said "uhhh, yeah ok I guess". In-universe explanation: It's a magic weapon for magic foes and the shape doesn't really matter.

[@tenshimusouka5820]

They could have still made it something fantasy and key-like and not worse than a stick. Look at the Fyreslayers latchkey grand axe is Warhammer Age of Sigmar. It’s a big key, but it’s choppy, and doesn’t have that awkward ring on the base. Yeah it’s very ‘fantasy’ but Age of Sigmar is a more Monster Hunter-ish world, so it fits the setting.

[@yohumanfrisk]

To be fair, within' universe, there is actual magic that surrounds it that allows it to be sharp.

[@azuredragoon2054]

The guard was arguably the worst part about the weapon though. Even magic can't really fix that.

[@michaelkindt3288]

One thing I want to bring up to is that technically keyblade is a class of weapon, and the iconic one most people know of is the Kingdom Key. If you look at A list of keyblades, yeah, they're not even pretending practicality was A concern. The Toy Story 1 from Kingdom Hearts 3 is essentially just a big cactus.

[@mahe7744]

It's more symbolism than anything really

[@speciallasagna8521]

That cut was neither simple nor clean.

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

This is… when you walk away? The way that hilt/handle … makes me feel tonight .. it’s hard to let it go … .. I’ll see myself out. *HOLD ME*🎶🎶🎶🎶

[@theripeorange7951]

WHATEVER LIES BEYOND THIS MORNING 🎶🎶🎶🎶

[@MidwestArtMan]

When slicing the pool noodle, Don't Think Twice, simply Face Your Fears.

[@TonyBIndie]

I need Sanctuary from that burn

[@bphater31]

nothing's like before

[@abcdef27669]

Fun fact: In the original concept art made by Tetsuya Nomura, Sora (the main character) was armed with a chainsaw sword.

[@rockowlgamer631]

Ironically enough Intelligent Systems made the Omega Yato years later lol for Corrin in Fire Emblem Fates.

[@anderporascu5026]

Hell, a chainsaw would have been superior to this mall ninja garbage.

[@logansmall5148]

​@@anderporascu5026Mall ninja garbage calls this atrocity garbage :p

[@mikkomuukka1755]

Mickey Mouse is a sort of a Chaos God, so it checks out.

[@mitchbarton4921]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

[@widgren87]

Me and a friend used to joke that the only way this "weapon" works is that it uses magic to "Unlock" wounds in the enemies, it was that or invisible magic fields in order for it to work.

[@tombolt13thexehanort29]

Nomura has stated it is an edge of light, like a chainsaw (because he originally wanted it to be a chainsaw).

[@Asterion608]

More like it projects the pain of the user onto the enemy. The user sustains so much pain on the arm the enemies prefer to die when they feel it.

[@priscocastillo3940]

It actually uses light pulses as it's edge

[@PyrusCreed]

"When you stick it in someone it unlocks their death." - Michael J. Caboose

[@FlexxibleFree]

Well, that's pretty much how it's actually "designed"

[@Swordfry]

You guys are forgetting one very crucial element to mastering the keyblade: "My friends are my power." So believe in your friendship more and maybe it will be better LOL

[@TensuiTM]

Alr let me just throw my friends at them like they’re Pokémon I CHOOSE YOU!!! JANET

[@Blibers]

This is one of those weapons that makes me think "man, if only I had a long wooden stick instead of this heavy metal piece of crap!"

[@Chrisspru]

an axe with a handguard

[@rubberbandba11craft]

there are definitely better keyblades than the base model

[@Blackpapalink]

You didn't play 358 days, then.

[@whitewolf3051]

It *seems* that Shad avoids JRPGs unless they are part of popular anime or any other pop culture. *If* he doesn't, then he would know about an Action JRPG known as Tokyo Xanadu (eX+). In that game one of the characters uses what's essentially a keyblade, but more sword like, with no extra bit at the tip.

[@upshift_actual]

​@@whitewolf3051ok?

[@michaelkindt3288]

Funnily enough, there is A keyblade that doesn't have that awkward extra handguard. It's used by someone who uses reverse grip.

[@TaisanMaverick]

It's actually worse. The handguard is actually just part of the blade itself.

[@michaelkindt3288]

@@TaisanMaverick-.-How is that worse? Is it because damage to the guard will result in damage to the blade?

[@TaisanMaverick]

@michaelkindt3288 Not only that, but because the blade is moved down and put in the position of the handguard, it has a shorter range than it would otherwise. This is even seen in game as the character who uses it has the shortest range of the three playable characters.

[@GeebusCrust]

​@TaisanMaverick and while all of that is objectively true, the fact that he uses reverse grip certainly doesn't help his range either.

[@Atou_Mahogany]

1:59 The reason for the double knuckle bow is so it can have the profile of a Skeleton Key. Most have "blades" that are polls to make them look like classic Skeleton Keys, but there are a few that do have blade edges for their blades. The thing is though, the Keyblade is a pure magical fantasy weapon in every sense of the word, even in the series it originates from. They reject reality and substitute it for Rule of Cool as long as your Heart is into it enough. The main character from the game literally used that same Keyblade to cut through multiple buildings while fighting a giant robot dragon.

[@crinsombone5380]

I'd argue it'd be cooler to treat it like an axe, like in Guilty Gear

[@Atou_Mahogany]

​@@crinsombone5380 Great news! As of the... (checking wiki) 12th game of the series you can now transform your Keyblade into literally anything your heart desires. Want it to be an axe? Simple but Clean. A spear? Why stop at one, when you can make it 358 for Days! 2 guns? Your imagination needs to be Re:Coded to think bigger! Why not (and yes this is a thing) transform it into a flying chariot pulled by an ethereal Pegasus that rains lightning? ... Dream Drop Distance.

[@___-___-___-___-]

​@@crinsombone5380main bad guy xehanort uses it like an axe when hes not using it as a wand

[@ionryful]

Real Life Keyblade: *Trash* In Universe Keyblade: *Cut through multiple skyscrapers*

[@Schlumpsha]

Door shields are better than key blades.

[@WillFredward7167]

Was that a reference to Shad’s old Minotaur video? Because if so, bravo!

[@Plasmagon99]

Braum is here! Braum protects little ones.

[@brianmoyachiuz905]

Agreed 🛡

[@kingleonidas2182]

Honestly it’s more of a wand that you can smack pwople with than a blade, but you should look into other iconic keyblades like Oblivion and Ends of the Earth specifically.

[@rubberbandba11craft]

especially ends of the Earth. thats a real keyblade

[@ArrakisHeir88]

No, it's a sword. No matter what keychain you have equipped, Sora can make paper thin slices out of the skyscrapers in Xemnas' boss room The issue here is that Shad's isn't magic so it can't cut

[@whitewolf3051]

It *seems* that Shad avoids JRPGs unless they are part of popular anime or any other pop culture. *If* he doesn't, then he would know about an Action JRPG known as Tokyo Xanadu (eX+). In that game one of the characters uses what's essentially a keyblade, but more sword like, with no extra bit at the tip.

[@Ranstone]

And "Sweet Memories". That one's very functional.

[@IncognitoActivado]

@@ArrakisHeir88 It's NOT a sword.

[@TimeMachine7773]

Shad, I appreciate the family friendly content. In a world where I have to be so careful of what my son sees, I know he's always safe watching your content. Thank you!

[@knightjack]

Les go, fantastic aspect

[@SporkyMcFly]

The Pokémon community is another sure bet. Very few people around there that are not family friendly.

[@TimeMachine7773]

@@SporkyMcFly for sure. I'm a dad just being a dude. If you know you know.

[@primeemperor9196]

"The Keyblade is trash." What was your first clue?

[@HBHaga]

It's essentially a club with extra bits on it. And they one they were playing around with looks incredibly janky.

[@LordMalice6d9]

Its a fantasy weapon from a kids game!

[@daswordofgork9823]

1. Skallgrim already made a video on it. 2. It is bad because, when you walk away, you don’t hear me say….

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

As a longtime KH fan, yes, I (and most fans) agree that the "Keyblade" is pretty bad when one attempts to use it as a conventional sword. One needs to keep in mind, however, that its intended targets are not exactly beings of the natural realm, and thus, conventional wisdom need not apply. Against humans like Squall/Leon, it's more or less a one-handed club (hence why most users attack with the "back" of the weapon) that will definitely bruise and maybe even break bones (which is more than you can say for the far more realistic nunchuks), but due to it being a magical weapon it'll easily cut through the more ethereal forces of the Heartless and Nobodies. Just something to keep in mind, at any rate. Love your content, and am glad that you've been able to endure YT's repeated attempts to shut you down over the years.

[@melkel2010]

Yeah it's always confused me when the game uses it as a physical weapon. Perhaps that was remind us that it has a physical form, but from the the beginning we understand that its a spiritual or emotional tool that undoes the Heartless beings. Key to your heart theme all the way through except when physically clobbering with it. Game got immediately stupid when jumping the shark on the first day of school.

[@Asterion608]

Yeah no, all your excuses fall apart by the fact that you can't see a single video of the game where they aren't swinging those things around like crazy. It's meant to be physically used and is worse than just a Stick, in fact with that crappy guard the characters would have their arm crippled after just one fight. Is trash even for fantasy standards.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

@@Asterion608 I didn't mention the guard because I fully agree with them there and thus didn't see any need to call attention to it. Sadly, due to how keys are originally designed to be turned to move the locking mechanism, the double-sided guard is basically inevitable.

[@marvhollingworth663]

You're right about the magical properties damaging magical enemies. When fighting physical opponents, it's generally against people like Cloud, Leon & Yuffie that you don't want to kill. You just have to beat them, like in a boxing match. Having said that, Cloud & Leon fight you with proper swords so it's a bit inconsistent. I think we're just not supposed to think too much about Kingdom Hearts.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

@marvhollingworth663 When it comes to ally enemies like Cloud and Leon, they're professionally-trained swordsmen, so in my mind, they know how to control their strikes to keep from absolutely maiming Sora. One thing I actually like about KH1 over 2 and later entries is that Sora uses the Keyblade more like one would expect from such a blunt weapon. It feels like it actually has weight and bulk to it, and so you end up using it as much defensively as you would offensively, blocking and countering with heavy strikes or unleashing magical strikes with skills like Ragnarok.

[@nodot17]

To be fair The only real purpose of the keyblade is it being the sole weapon that can kill heartless otherwise they just disappear for a bit and comeback elsewhere. Had to make sure the kid who did stick fighting with his friends had a reason to be there when cloud and squall where right there hangin around

[@riicky83]

The key part of the Keyblade is literally only there for the sole purpose of locking and unlocking locks. Sora literally uses it like a club.

[@Will_Forge]

To be fair, the keyblade is really just a magic wand. Your heart goodness energy goes through it into the "heartless" and the "nobodies" to damage them. And much of the time you're really casting spells with it literally as your magic wand. It's 50:50 a wand and spirit energy weapon.

[@ultimablackmage]

It's not a cutting blade, it's a low level violence weapon that's closer to a club.

[@Asterion608]

Is not good even as a club. Is a downgrade even over a pipe.

[@Tall_Order]

I want to compare it more to a spiked metal baseball bat from fallout 4. lol

[@ecothunderbolt257]

Some of the ones you unlock are closer to a blade "Two Becomes One" comes to mind. But all the canon ones are basically just clubs. This is an aspect where the magic explanation is fairly valid though since most Keyblade users are fighting beings made of pure darkness and the keyblade is essentially their kryptonite. I can understand it acting like a blade against a heartless simply because its magic makes it act more like a lightsaber against its intended target. Also worth mentioning that SOME keyblade users occasionally attack with the toothed side. We see Roxas do this on occasion when he's dual-wielding them. I have no explanation at all why they don't use it that way normally (also, if I'm gonna be really nitpicky, some of the skills Sora learns do involve a false edge strike, but yeah, his default combo never does as Tyranth rightfully points out)

[@pokenectionswithprofessorp2979]

@@Asterion608 I think that you'll find a better version of it from Todd's Workshop. You can find it under the name 'WEIRD WEAPONS 2 - Swordhammer? Polesword?'

[@Daltonisntabot]

​@@ecothunderbolt257Nomura stated it's a a edge of light, like a saw (Because he wanted the main character to have that). So, that's why Sora can cut through literal buildings.

[@Ranstone]

While we're 100% judging the mechanical design here, it's good to know the Keyblade(s) cut with magic. It can cut through stone and crap because it's got a wacky anime slash magic force around it. One keyblade is a bee-hive on a stick. I'm serious. They're like Shardblades, or sunquenched-lightsabers.

[@WakingDreamer01]

You need the Keyblade to defeat the Heartless...!

[@dustinmillar120]

The key blade always reminds me of red vs blue: "how is a sword a key?" "maybe it's a key, and when you stab it in someone, it unlocks their death..."

[@Darith926]

The keyblade, in-universe, is as much a weapon as Sam's rope from the LOTR books. Magic from it makes bad guys hurt, so it doesn't need an edge or anything; just has to touch them. Even in-universe keyblades with longer reach tend to perform better than shorter ones, (Pumpkinhead being able to do a string of critical blows whilst having long reach,) with only some exceptions such as the Fairy Harp. The main issue in-universe is their bulk. Everyone who wields one for the first time sinks/sags their arms under the weight, (Except maybe Riku because he's Riku,) and nothing justifies these things being made so thick. No part of their function as weapons or keys ever suggests being heavy/sturdy improves the design.

[@ZttackFrmBhind]

What we learned today; Weapons are supposed to make stick better. Keyblades, like Nunchuks, actually manage to make stick worse.

[@clothar23]

Real big stick energy

[@kevinkarlwurzelgaruti458]

You know what shad can do to bring in more views? A new stick praise video plus another one about the king of the battlefield.

[@nicolasvillasecaali7662]

I always say it as a magic wand over a conventional melee weapon, dealing damage with each bonk by using magic than strength

[@DanielMWJ]

2 minutes ago? Let's goooo~ Lol. The keyblade joins the nunchaku in the "Worse Than Stick" Hall of Shame.

[@EeveetoUmbreon25]

9:32 To be fair, id rather the keyblade over a pair of nunchucks, at least i’ll be able to block with it😂

[@mozax8118]

In my opinion, Riku's Key blade (the car key one) is more 'practical' as an average sword than the default key blade. Which would be a PERFECT weapon for you guys to check out.

[@landond3444]

I was literally thinking of that keyblade. I think Riku also used a keyblade called Soul Eater that looks even more like a single-edge sword.

[@mozax8118]

@landond3444 Yes that one too.

[@rubberbandba11craft]

@@mozax8118 soul eater is a sword, way to dawn is the keyblade

[@rubberbandba11craft]

or ends of the earth

[@whitewolf3051]

It *seems* that Shad avoids JRPGs unless they are part of popular anime or any other pop culture. *If* he doesn't, then he would know about an Action JRPG known as Tokyo Xanadu (eX+). In that game one of the characters uses what's essentially a keyblade, but more sword like, with no extra bit at the tip.

[@Zanzoltan]

As a big fan of KH, and as we all know, the concept of the Keyblade is not to attack your body, but your ethereal heart. That's why when you kill a monster, the heart is unlocked. So, no, this weapon doesn't damage the physical body, it damages let's call it the "Soul" of the thing that it attacks. So, yeah, as a sword, it would be useless. But hey, thanks for trying to make it, even if you didn't made it as the original concept :D

[@curtisbrown547]

If you think the OG keyblade is "a bit shit", your probably going to be horrified at some of the other key blades, lol. The Atlantica keyblade for example is legit a goofy blue stick with a decorative crab stuck to the end for example. They only work at all through the fact that they are magical, and double as a way to channel spells. Its even worse because some characters reverse grip the damn thing.

[@Darth234Ravenous]

I remember quite a few years ago I requested this on patreon, back when I actually had money to spare. Maybe someday they'll look at the absolutely ridiculous melee weapons of Warframe.

[@critica77y77]

"Weapon with a powerful enchantment sucks if it doesn't have an enchantment! More at 11."

[@Asterion608]

Problem is that you can't even swing it properly and even withing it's "magic" never shows that crap handling itself, it's always used like a club, a downgraded club.

[@RoninCatholic]

And then you can see numerous enchanted weapons that are respectable weapons even without magic involved.

[@Daltonisntabot]

​@@Asterion608And yet, despite all that, Sora can beat Goku because of that very magic. It can cut buildings apart and warp reality. It can change shape into different weapons, even a cannon or bazooka. It's a jack of all trades weapon. It's not meant for practicality, it's meant to be a simple and easy to recognize design (marketing) and also symbolism. It can seal keyholes and open any lock and even destroy heartless and other magical beings. Of course, no denying that without the magic part, it's basically a giant metal stick with teeth. Still, can't deny that it's definitely one of the most powerful game weapons in existence.

[@Asterion608]

@@Daltonisntabot So much words to just say bullshit.

[@Daltonisntabot]

@@Asterion608 Yes, indeed. All this = BS. Hey, I didn't make the lore of Kingdom Hearts, that's Nomura.

[@jamcdonald120]

1:30 yah, he uses it like a club...

[@surobura]

You may as well be testing the practical use of a wizard's magic staff as a melee weapon

[@TriScaleCreations]

To be fair, and to acknowledge what Tyranth said in his video, the Keyblade in-universe is a magic-based weapon. So it's not meant to be an axe, it's not even really meant to be a blade (in the same way a Lightsaber isn't really a saber), it cuts through the dark energy of the enemies, so it's physical form isn't meant to be effective. It also has a dual function - as it's not just a "sword", but also, well, a Key. It's actually used as such in the game (in a magical sort of way, to "unlock" the "Hearts" of different worlds that have been corrupted, to restore them). So being designed with the key shape is deliberate for that purpose. That's also why it has the guard it does - to resemble the "loop" handle piece that many older keys used to have. Though, admittedly, that's probably the most egregious part about the Keyblade, since the concerns you pointed out about the "knuckle bones" persist, no matter what the in-universe explanations are.

[@CromTuise]

My theoretical solution is to separate they keyblade into the key and blade; the key’s teeth and second knuckle guard being located on a sturdy scabbard, which can be used as a key, which leaves you a more conventional sword.

[@jwolpert1310]

Well, it is a game where you run around with an anthropomorphic duck and dog, so realism is not something I expected :)

[@tuseroni6085]

if you look at images of sora using the kingdom key, the guard literally clips through his wrist.

[@drdca8263]

When he was saying that magic wouldn’t help with the guard, I was thinking, essentially, “what if magic let the guard phase through your arm (but not the opponent’s weapons) ?” . Good to hear that that’s canon :P (not really canon, just joking) But also, huh, if you could have an all-angles guard for your hand where the body of the person currently holding the handle, or anyone if no one is currently holding the handle, could pass through the guard, that might be neat?

[@rngfactor]

The keybl- well no shit. It's a rounded edge stick with a key look at the end. I didn't need to watch this to know it sucks irl. Das why it's fantasy... Final fantasy

[@seanwhitehall4652]

The kid-friendly key is Disney :)

[@dakotaisgreat]

Keyblade is more of a magic wand that grants you a ton of magical powers that you can also smack people with. I know there's like 20,000 other comments saying the same thing, but yeah

[@40088922]

yes, the teeth aren't used MOST of the time, but there's an ability called "Zantetsuken" in which Sora enters a reverse grip stance and slashes the enemy with the teeth, maybe there are a few other times when they're used, but it's very much the exception. it's kinda funny how using the teeth is the thing people who never played the games consistently think about, through no fault of their own, of course, but it's still interesting that said, the Kingdom Key (the basis for this one) is the absolute epitome of "fantasy weapon that cuts with magic" (there're even some Keyblades that are flat), however, specially in some later points in the series, there are some versions that are actually edged all around and might as well be just bulky swords

[@NathanaelStottlemyer]

The Keyblade is a magical weapon, but in the games I played, he hits it with the key teeth part. There are some combos where he doesn't but at least in the original one it was like a blunt axey thing that was magical. Also if I recall the guard should be waaay wider at least in the standard one.

[@kitealaster]

Its definitely more of a key then a weapon. It gets used as a key in the games quite a few times to shoot a beam to unlock stuff. Theres also times where keyblade wielders just make it fly around them with magic to hit people so the guard doesn't even really effect it. As a actual weapon in real life it definitely sucks. Its got a lot of in-universe stuff that makes it usable/necessary.

[@flannelmcmannel]

It doesn't matter if the Keyblade sucks as a weapon, my friends are my power!

[@faisalsonbol5600]

Just refreshed at the right time

[@jonahbutterfield5792]

Huge kingdom hearts fan. Fun games One thing to also mention that I am not seeing in the comments is that with the keyblade being a magical manifestation of light connected to kingdom hearts, their appearance is more visual. The pole is sharp. The entire blade can cut through buildings. It’s been used to slice their mountains and buildings with ease. And it can fly around and instantly appear in your hand ect. It’s the magic that makes it useful. Without that yeah it be a horrible design. Plus being able to unlock any lock even none phycical ones (like metaphorical locks) also is a huge utility and it gives you access to powerful magic. It’s also the only thing that can hurt and permanently kill others Also other keyblade designs are a little better than the default one

[@willclark4449]

the keyblade is about as effective as the third game's dialogue, and story

[@itamiyouji4057]

You know, I didn't need an 11 minute video to figure that one out for myself. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Evaonk]

I agree they should have made a 30 minute video, more content!

[@michaelkindt3288]

Someone needs to mod Kingdom Hearts to replace the Kingdom Key with this janky thing.

[@bungeetoons]

I kind of want to see Tyranth make a theoretical practical keyblade. Like fixing the design and also reviewing his own changes.

[@somerando1073]

Take off one of the two knuckle bows. Boom, 1000% improvement. It's a perfectly fine mace at that point.

[@reeetawd]

Sora's giant feet act as a counterweight for using the weapon

[@mariobenedicto3582]

How do we know Sora's got giant feet? How do we know he's not just wearing clown shoes?

[@kylevanderlinden1508]

Even at 11pm at night Shad is an enjoyable watch

[@robingrube3495]

Heaven help shad's sanity if some fool creates a key blade/nunchuck hybrid.

[@Maninawig]

4:06 um, actually, it's a messier axe. (For the pun)

[@redmage777]

They were thinking "Lets make a sword that looks like a key." and not much else. This was the same team that brought us the weapon choices in FF8...

[@Godoflegos]

Man, my favorite dumb thing about the FF8 Gunblade is when people who are only vaguely aware of it discover how the gun part of it is ACTUALLY used. Which, for those who DON'T know, is that you don't actually shoot people with the gun... You fire the gun INTO the blade the make it vibrate. Comparatively, at least Lightning's gunblades make a BIT more sense.

[@steakdriven]

The gunblade is fucking awesome don't knock it

[@RoninCatholic]

@@steakdriven It's ridiculous and stupid but has a charm to it.

[@Godoflegos]

@@steakdriven Nah, Squall's gunblade is trash. The base of the blade, AKA the part under the most torque, is tapered inward. The position of the cylinder means there's no tang for the blade, its just held on by a very thin section of the gun body. And to top it all off, you're constantly setting off explosions right at the weakest point. That thing is basically DESIGNED to snap.

[@anderporascu5026]

@Godoflegos Leave that part for Shad, Clouds buster is no more practical.

[@boyzvird]

Sora the protagonist of the series uses the keyblade to seal the keyholes on the world he visits, that essentially fixes that world's barrier returning it to normal, it has the power to open and/or close any lock, see in the KH universe the barriers between worlds has been broken that's why you see all the mishmash of characters.

[@Tall_Order]

To be fair, I've never looked at a Keyblade and thought it would be effective in real life.

[@walker_andrej]

Apparently it's supposed to be effective against certain enemies that maybe regular weapons aren't effective

[@RoulicisThe]

Yeah, it's a "magical" weapon. Which means the actual shape of the thing doesn't matter. There is, in the KH universe, a huge a**hole of a blacksmith that could've shaped his magic weapon any way he wanted and chose the most horribly uncomfortable design his sick mind could conjure xD

[@Daltonisntabot]

​@@RoulicisThe No, it's more like the X-Blade was the original counterpart to Kingdom Hearts and every 'Key' after that is a cheap knock-off to imitate its power. Also why the Kingdom Key is the 'true design'. The closest to Kingdom Hearts design and the 'Realm of Lights Keyblade'. Each key after that is just Sora's heart making connections and keychains.

[@brandonciciotti4944]

You say the keyblade is trash but you never even tried spamming firaga with it

[@theheroneededwillette6964]

To be fair. In universe, it’s a construct made of magic light of the heart or something like that. I don’t think stuff like weight are really factors. Plus said magic makes it act sharp when needed, especially against dark monsters.

[@evodolka]

Think some characters hit with the bit sticking out, think Riku does it Also if open to recommendations, try the Monado from Xenoblade

[@theripeorange7951]

I guess they could sharpen the actual physical part. Its more lightsaber than conventional sword though.

[@evodolka]

@@theripeorange7951 could work, i mean in Smash Brose Shulk just regularly hits people with it and the Monado II looks more blade shaped

[@rock21611]

Actually, Riku does hit with the back of the key, same as Sora. It's a bit confusing because his ready stance is weird.

[@evodolka]

@rock21611 ah ok then

[@thewolfden2972]

Glad to say that you've been showing up in my algorithm again

[@jingo4754]

so to point out something, the key teeth are considered the back end of the blade. the blunt section is considered the front and what the MC uses to hit the enemy with lol

[@OneGamer2EnvyThemAll]

Would like to point out that the only instance where Sora uses the teeth of the Keyblade consistently is when he's performing Zantetsuken, an iaijutsu-like blindingly fast slash that's meant to be an insta-kill to lesser enemies and otherwise dealing BIG damage to anything that survives.

[@matthewperales9912]

Fun fact, the original idea was to have the Sora use a chainsaw as his weapon. Disney thought this was too violent and came up with the idea of having keyblades instead. So they went from rending enemies apart with a chainsaw to bludgeoning them to death with a metal stick.

[@firenze6478]

Obviously Sora is following in the footsteps of Kenshi in using the blunt side to spare his foes

[@digital_u4ia]

But then how could you play "Limbs" with Pluto?

[@thomashughey9759]

There are other versions of the key blade most blade shaped straight curved or rapier Examples to look up oblivion oathkeeper keyblades of ventus Terra and Aqua Eraquas xehnhort Honestly ventus keyblade is only one that is curved then turning it backwards Is like hand axe

[@Jaszi007]

My only hit of info id like to share is that if you had ever seen a replica the guard actually rotates freely so you can have actual edge alignment.

[@Gterr1971]

Loving the amount of uploads lately ! Just remember to get some sleep !

[@WritingFighter]

I wonder how it would perform if it were fixed in a way, creating a straighter, more sensible axhead in the vague style and the guard were designed to be more functional while keeping the aesthetics.

[@IBW_3000]

Well, it is a key first and foremost. Though I do wonder if blades shaped like IRL keys would actually work.

[@RoninCatholic]

With a proper hilt that lets you keep alignment instead of a completely round shaft, axes with key-shaped blades might sometimes be roughly functional.

[@LightShigeta]

A key is meant to insert and then turn. It would work as a stab and torque weapon. Maybe it could be used for tearing a hole in mail if the axe head part had some spikes that jutted in the same direction as a spike on the shaft. Then you can insert both spikes through the mail and twist to break it. Meanwhile the wearer of the mail will probably have killed you.

[@amadman8149]

I saw Tyranths making of video, and have been looking forward to seeing Shads perspective on it!

[@Hydro_Hell]

Sora does indeed use the blunt side

[@Asterion608]

Which is even worse because it forces your arm to be even more offset from the point of impact.

[@Daltonisntabot]

​@@Asterion608I see it more as 'there's no impact'. When he hits, he doesn't claim, he slices right through unless there's a object/hitbox in the way. It's basically a saw of magic as Nomura put it.

[@Kuro99star]

If I remember correctly in the games the Keyblade was weightless so there was no soreness from swinging it at most enemies.

[@jordanelliot3972]

Its also a manifestion of light so like barely physical

[@OmegaDarkBlade]

sora hits with the back end but mickey holds with the ax part in front

[@nategd313]

It’s a bludgeoning weapon, but keyblade sounds cooler than keyhammer or keymace 😂

[@mariobenedicto3582]

Besides... the key mace is a Yu-Gi-Oh monster/card so... potential copyright issues?

[@4-2222]

So, here's a thought: in the games rhe keyblades are magical, they just act like swords. So what if the pole part had edges too on the front and back? That way it'd act closer to the game and it'd make the cutting area longer. You could use it backwards.

[@xdragon2k]

But can we make it better? How about removing the back knuckle bow (or removing both). Essentially, making it a Keyaxe. It will make it easier on the hand/arm AND you can properly test the effectiveness of that blade geometry.

[@Phlostonparadise2971]

Make the body/"blade" a 12 gauge shotgun? Probably just enough room to make it a single shot, but that would make it an effective weapon.

[@KamenRiderGumo]

@@Phlostonparadise2971 Problem with that is the barrel would have to be hollow, and melee impacts would definitely dent and warp it so as to make it dangerous to fire. It's my main gripe with combination melee/projectile weapons. To fire a projectile safely and with any accuracy at all you must have a rigid structure that does not change as the tolerances are very tight. But repeatedly whacking your weapon into something will chip, bend, and deform it. Not something you want with a gun barrel.

[@___-___-___-___-]

The keyblade is somewhere between an axe, a bat, a sword (katana specifically), and a wand, depending on who uses it. Some characters even hold it reverse grip. If you remove the offending side of the guard it's usable, though still anime. Maybe the acrobatic cuts sora does by flipping his whole body around while holding the key steady are the most practical.

[@procow2274]

Funny enough the character usual moves forward when swinging

[@pokenectionswithprofessorp2979]

There's a historical weapon that Scholagladiatoria got to try out, made by Todd of Todd's workshop. The title of the video is 'WEIRD WEAPONS 2 - Swordhammer? Polesword?'

[@ecothunderbolt257]

Some of the ones you unlock are closer to a blade "Two Becomes One" comes to mind (although even though that may be one of the coolest Keyblades its essentially a Mall Ninja Weapon) But all the canon ones are basically just clubs. This is an aspect where the magic explanation is fairly valid in the world context though since most Keyblade users are fighting beings made of pure darkness and the keyblade is essentially their kryptonite. We can understand it acting like a blade against a heartless simply because its magic makes it act more like a lightsaber against its intended target. Also worth mentioning that SOME keyblade users occasionally attack with the toothed side. We see Roxas do this on occasion when he's dual-wielding them. I have no explanation at all why they don't use it that way normally (also, if I'm gonna be really nitpicky, some of the skills Sora learns do involve a false edge strike, but yeah, his default combo never does as Tyranth rightfully points out)

[@carolinanava3300]

Kingdom Hearts is an awesome game. Incredible story. The most ridiculous weapon ever. Thanks!

[@paeul4982]

I think one of the theories why they hit with the back of the weapon is because there is an invisible energy edge along the back that can uses the weilders power of light/darkness to cut through basically anything. Since in the ending sequence of KH2 Sora the protagonist cuts through like 3 buildings in a row and then a bunch more with little to no effort.

[@nathanweissberg2010]

it's strange even in game, because the idea of the keyblade is that it works as a sword on heartless, nobodies, unversed and dream eaters, and it's the only kind of weapons that can finish these creatures off, but every other weapon in the games (other than the wooden sword and strugle sword) are able to dispell the enemies. There are keyblades that have a more blade-like design, and fun-fact, even though some cutscenes Sora and other keyblade users to cut things with the keyblade, the sound effect of it hitting a target is more of a bludgeoning sound than a cutting

[@clementverkimpe940]

the thing is that I think it's supposed to be a Blunt weapon... I think.

[@alexandercross9081]

A "weapon" where you can honestly say "probably the most effective use is to take it by the other end and bash them with the handle" is probably not a good weapon

[@ShellworldGames]

I want a 3D version of your idealized take on upscalling and weaponizing your own house or car key.

[@soragranda]

Gotta be honest, this one in particular has been one of the most unnecessary analyses ever. The keyblade is a weapon that uses strength via magic, it is tied to that since it's tied to be a key to the hearts and to liberate those from the darkness... so, without its magic, it is obvious that it is not an ideal weapon in that case...

[@D-Havoc]

Doesn't the bulky guard of the keyblade offset the weight of key teeth to keep it from being top-heavy?

[@AngelicusEXperiment]

@5:38 That's what I ask myself whenever I try to understand the games, lol

[@trunks6443]

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[@MyraTalisen]

The guard is SO impractical! 😮

[@battlericky17]

1:48 i think he somehow spins in the air to hit people with the blade side lol, kinda whacky overall design seeing it done like this

[@ss7cindersh]

I believe the blade should be slightly offset from the handle guard and not in direct alignment with it. I do not know if that would change much in the way of its flaws as a real weapon, but it might make it more wieldable.

[@DemonicAkumi]

I remember going a few years playing between games and it took me a while to realize/accept that he does NOT strike with the the end you expect to strike with. When I finally remembered how it's used, I just assumed they designed it that way because it's still a Disney product and hitting with the blunt side is more kid friendly than the actual deadly-looking end. I just just in case they did make actual keyblades and didn't want children harming themselves. Just my theory on it.

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

I've never played it, but having seen pictures and such I've always hated that weapon. They gave it poor balance, too much handle weight, a small space alog which meaningful damage might be done, a bad cutting part that more tears than cuts, a handle that's just plain self-limiting in both swinging comfort and accuracy, and then had it used like a baton more than anything else when it's design most resembles an axe. They also then called this item "blade," trying to depict it as a sword-like object when it has no comparison to one. It's very insulting to the intelligence of everyone looking at it to imply people would accept that as being in any way like a sword.

[@CelticShaman.]

In a previous video I was curious about the hand guard on the keyblade and I think you guys answered that pretty definitively. 😅The keyblade unfortunately relies on its setting more than lightsabers do. In the Kingdom hearts games it cuts because magic. No seriously. Which is why people you tend to use the side without teeth. Now because it's a square enix RPG, there's tons of different keyblades throughout the series and and some look a lot more blade-like than the standard Kingdom key.

[@ActrosTech]

Terraria also has this thing in a form of a sword, and whenever I see this thing - it always brings up same question about its knucklebone guard, and like its honestly (and intuitionaly) feels more reliable to just grab the guard itself than trying to hold onto its actual grip, lmao

[@MarkWiseTechno]

Now I'm gonna have to hop into Super Smash Bros Ultimate and see if they animated Sora hitting with the back side of pole instead of the key teeth. 😂