Shadow of the Colossus - Beta colossi recap & update

[@NomadColossus]

Yes, all of the evidence I had speculated back in April 2015 has now been updated and refuted! But, back then it was just me a few other fans (this was the dark age) after the end fof the PS2 'Last Big Secret' forums and before Wisi arrived. So for years I was the last hacker, and I posted what I thought was relevant.

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

Wow! What information was updated/refuted?

[@NomadColossus]

@@BIGD-cc7ru See the video description

[@speinz9430]

I just wanted to really quickly say thank you for keeping this community alive. I recently started delving into your videos and it’s honestly incredible how long you’ve been active.

[@ShroomBerry75]

@@NomadColossus I find it funny how the deleted colossi are cooler than the in game ones. Which removed colossi would you love to fight the most? My guess is the Monkey

[@Milkyman34]

@@ShroomBerry75 I don’t think it’s that it’s cooler. People are always intrigued by the “what ifs” in life. Like look at half life 2’s early development.

[@sagaevan9641]

the biggest tragedy is the hard work people put into modeling, texturing, rigging, animating, and playtesting these colossi, just for them to be scrapped and go unappreciated. we can't even get a good look at these colossi, most of them. who knows if there's even a backup of them somewhere on someone's hard drive.

[@peculiarjack617]

And yet, dionin looks like a priapulid worm

[@aadipie]

Man if you knew what just happened after the huge leaks

[@sagaevan9641]

@@aadipie dont just say that and then disappear 👁

[@The_Big_Jay]

@@sagaevan9641 Yeah, for real. Leak of what?

[@BrickmanZero]

@@sagaevan9641 You shouldn't tell him xD, anyways if you still want to know he meant or the found info in the ps3 ver of the game (locations string) or the oldest beta found yet from project deluge, if you want more info i can send you a channel with info later or you can join btfl

[@landonbangerter]

It drives me nuts knowing there were more colossi...

[@drevia59]

Yea i wish they were in the game so much

[@RobloxfailXDRock]

Bluedigit lets hope they bring them back

[@killyourself2620]

Sadly, not yet, even with the new ps4 remake...

[@nope-xe2lx]

maybe as a DLC..... why not?

[@nope-xe2lx]

@Harmon_artist yeah...

[@mari-liismihhailov7073]

Some of the deleted colossi look cooler than ones that are still in the game

[@thomasrinker1263]

i think the same thing that the beta colossi are cooler

[@patrick22014]

For example 11 and 14. They're the least impressive ones. Phoenix, Worm, Spider they all look way more amazing.

[@gaigzean]

The ones I would have loved to see the most in the game are the Spider and the Phoenix

[@illeatyochildren6673]

Ikr

[@JosephBallin320]

I'd rather have to fight all of them than Cenobia and Celosia. The only thing different between them is the model and arena

[@papaidoceuteamamuito5975]

Is it just me that gets a scary vibe from those colossi images? like the way they are huge and look at the camera and you will never know what kind of animation they would've had. it's kind of an "hes just standing there... menacingly!" kind of scary

[@blitzy7961]

Yep I feel it too. It's got this ominous feel

[@user-hh7yt3cb5f]

I think most of ppl feel like this, tbh these older games can easily provoke these feelings, probably due to the low quality of everything and dark environment

[@theshiro1238]

Yup, definitely

[@hoogis]

Especially the monkey, spider, and worm

[@viktortzarofthexbox2987]

The Mikey just horrified me because it’s in a black void.

[@NomadColossus]

There were some grander ideas," Ueda said, "such as changing Shadow's ending or adding some of the colossi that got cut from the original, and honestly having features like that would've been attractive from a business perspective. If we put just a few extras in, though, gamers would naturally expect more than what we could provide. Instead of just putting in a few half-baked things, I thought it'd be better to stick with the original concept of staying faithful to the base work. If I get another chance in the future to do a remake, I might wind up changing quite a lot more." Fumito Ueda - Famitsu magazine August 2011

[@TheFindertom]

+Nomad Colossus How do you feel about Trico? and do you think there might be a link to any of the previous games?(story/land)

[@WhbTrue]

+Nomad Colossus My biggest hope is to see this masterpiece rebuilt by Team ICO and Japan Studio after The Last Guardian comes out. New engine, new physics, new models, new everything, with all these uncut colossi and a kickass graphics (even if original graphics are gorgeous imho), and maybe a little bit more backstory (but i'm not so sure about this, I LOVE the mysterious feeling of this masterpiece).

[@siddharthgangele2327]

i dont understand why they aren't making the sequeal of shadow of collosus my chilhood memories are attached with it even today also this game will get that much love like it use to get before ,this game was one of its own kind ever made,no other game can take it place...i am still waiting for it sequeal ...and if get realeased then i will be the first to purchase it at any cost

[@WhbTrue]

+SIDDHARTH GANGELE I'd say that the sequel of Shadow Of The Colossus is ICO, i mean if you look at it, makes sense how Wander is the first child with horns

[@siddharthgangele2327]

I would wait for that sir.!... I always will... even if I get old I can't forget this game... And if some how you got some more creative ideas in between and you remarked it or made a sequel of it... Then I will consider that as a luck of life that I got the chance to play the sequel or remake of this game......thank you sir

[@Knux576]

The spider looks like it would have been awesome! It's freakin' huge too!

[@SuperMarioPlush220]

And it was complete like Worm and devil.

[@DarkenRaul1]

0:38 The Phoenix - d3/i3 3:46 The Griffin - i7 4:55 The Monkey - Unknown 6:20 The Spider - f0 (most northern section of the bridge) 7:41 The Roc - b3 9:55 Sirius - g7 11:07 The Worm - b2 14:00 The Devil - h2

[@mr.monkecolossus444]

And here's the new evidence since most of these are outdated Phoenix - I4 Griffin - Nowhere Monkey - Nowhere Spider - F2 in "alpha" maybe D3 in "beta" Roc - D6 (Barba replaced Roc after its removal) Sirius - E8 Worm - G1 (Argus replaced Worm after its removal like Roc) Devil - D2 Yamori A - B3 ( where we thought Roc lived) Buddha - I7 (speculative) These final two were most likely not included because they were so obscure Datamined colossi will forever be unknown but they were probably just concepts

[@federicoricca2512]

I've noticed two things: 1- The beta colossi weren't held back on their arenas, they could escape everytime (except Phoenix and Griffin) 2- the beta colossi had other eyes at an early stage, not only the cut ones but all of them

[@Machu4]

It's incredible to me the amount of work you have spent delving into this glorious game. I salute you and your partners in all you have done, I didn't think anyone would surpass my love for this game but I have to hand it to you man, great work.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

"The only other 'sand snake' type Colossus is the Worm" Phalanx: Am I a joke to you?

[@NobodyNose06479]

Dirge:am I joke to you

[@tomatogenesis]

@@NobodyNose06479 Dirge is the "sand snake" he was refering.

[@alessa9464]

Skysand

[@Gilmaris]

Just because Phalanx rises from the sand, doesn't make it a sand snake. It's airborne for the entire encounter.

[@moncalimarimoncalimari8964]

@@Gilmaris It dives into the sand sometimes.

[@JABRIEL251]

Man I wish the other 8 made it in. 48 would have been too much, but 24 would have been just right. Even when playing for the first time I felt something was missing.

[@christopherhook2141]

Keep in mind, this was ambitious when it came out; even now it is difficult for developers to replicate this. That said, I wish Barba and Argus were replaced by the monkey, the Phoenix, or even the spider. Those guys were just different renditions of the 1st colossus.

[@Bunny-zg4hd]

@@christopherhook2141 Cenobia is the biggest disappointment. It's more a fight with towers than a colossi, and its model may as well be a straight up copy of Celosia

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

No I still demand 48 colossi.

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

@@Bunny-zg4hd *than a colossus

[@KProjektStudios]

Nomad, I have always considered myself a big fan of Team Ico and more than anything, SotC, but you... Thank you, for everything. You're awesome and I really value all your effort in this videos, researches and everything, you should be hired (if you aren't already) at some game developing company or more specifically, Team Ico. Keep the good work, your videos always make my day!

[@fluffdafire157]

still hoping for a prequel where someone else killed the other 8 colossi

[@definitivelaugh]

Smart! and maybe he dies before killing the others.

[@nope-xe2lx]

the character should have the Queen's sword,which is why it is there. Since there was some shadowy dudes already in the shrine when wander first walked through. i know this is 1 year late.

[@JC_Stone]

Ok. My theory is they killed the original 8, but unfortunately, they decided to go after one of the following Colossi. Pelagia, Malus, Gaius, Celocia or Cenobia, Dirge, or Barba. Pelagia death: Electrocuted. Either that or crushed. Malus: Shot dead. Fell. Gaius: Crushed. Celocia: Crushed. rammed to death. Cenobia: Mauled. Dirge: Eaten. Barba: Fell. Crushed.

[@nope-xe2lx]

that can't be considering you have to kill the 1st colossus first. Also,why is he there? he should have a wish like wander did.

[@brancolt_]

Wouldn’t make sense, the shrine only has the 16 idols and no sign of any broken ones

[@IglaGamingPL]

For me it's completely incredible that after so many years you guys keep finding more and more stuff (and I guess there's much more to find yet). The only thing I would like to know it's the confirmation about how SotC and ICO are exactly plot connected. I know that it's mainly made like this to create our own story and figure it out on our own, but geez, I can't describe how exactly I feel without knowing the absolute truth :P Props for all of you guys, I'm waiting for some new stuff.

[@NomadColossus]

IglaCovers Yep 10 years in fact (2005 - 2015)! It's actually the 10 year anniversary of SotC, so I'm glad I can still present something new at this late stage. Although I think this is as far as we can go as to where the discarded colossi lived, unless we get some new information (like from a developer or something) this is as close as we can get to the truth right now. I don't see this video being updated until I have definitive proof that what I have revealed here is wrong!

[@IglaGamingPL]

Nomad Colossus Yep, info from a developer would be the final step in solving the whole "mystery" around their game (or gameS perhaps?). Anyway - it's still VERY impressive for a "small, grey gamer" like me, who totally fell in love in this game. Even if I'm not seeking any stuff on my own - I'm only complaining on what I see on all your videos. You all guys can be proud of yourselves, it's a thing that only other gamer who played SotC can appreciate. Best regards 4 u

[@fluffdafire157]

Nomad Colossus hey nomad I had a thought what if the colossus was the god, demon, thing that takes over wander and was the supposed secret ending that was taken out or removed where wander and the devil fight to the death

[@IglaGamingPL]

IMO that kind of ending would have been too much "casual". Anything about this game, about it's plot AND especially - the ending - is one of a kind. Battles between good and bad are just too common, while the big disappointment and failure of the main character (spoiler alert - well, the girl woke up but... you know what was the pirce) is really rare. That's what makes this game so special. It's just totally different and leaves the player... empty. It was like this in my case.

[@fluffdafire157]

IglaCovers true I wouldn't change the game at all its just fun to speculate and share ideas

[@t-mag3004]

I wonder! Why hasn't anybody tried to recreate these unused colossi as accurate as they can with the few pictures that exist? using 3d modeling?

[@ruzl108]

Challenge accepted, wait for a few years

[@napplepapple]

+Pyrocat Ruzl really?

[@ruzl108]

+rutherford levensque unlikely, still don't have budget to buy a new laptop

[@KalakauaGodHimself]

as I was watching the video I wonder, can Nomad edit the game, putting the textures in it and creating the other 8 colossi?

[@gabrieldias8246]

+Ptrol-Omega Nomad is a hacker not a game producer

[@pustulio81]

5:28 Man, I forgot how much I loved the OST this game had. It fit so well. It made you feel like you were accomplishing something truly amazing.

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

Many songs also remind me of games like Fable and Elder Scrolls.

[@JohnFortniteKennedy_]

​@@JustSomeKittenwithaGun 7:55 well this one's from skyrim xD

[@Morlun91]

Finally the video sees the light. Enjoy the fruit of our work guys and feel free to ask any question, but be sure to check Nomad's blog before where all the details are posted. Nomad's is the very best he works REALLY hard to make this videos and articles. Share the video, he deserves all the views he can get ;)

[@CrimsonDynomo117]

Morlun91 Man i gotta respect you guys for taking the time out of your day to bring us information on....for lack of a better word, art.

[@Morlun91]

Thanks man :)

[@ParappatheRapper]

+Morlun91 Big thank you to both Nomad and yourself. If I have your attention I have a question that may or may not have been answered long ago. Having been extremely interested in the game since I first played it years ago I've tried to follow the secret seekers and have done a lot of reading and watching what you guys have given, as well as my own exploring (though, not nearly the level you guys go with comparisons of textures and hacking the game). Anyway, the really big thing I want to know is has anyone ever confirmed that any of the beta colossi or anything of early builds have been kept or are lost? I know that someone talked to Ueda and he seemed put off by the idea that people were hacking the games to see textures and the like, so maybe he wouldn't even want to say. I just want to hope that somewhere one of the developers or Ueda himself has some (if not all) of the early stuff they worked on saved somewhere. I would think at least one of them would look at all the time they put into making this beautiful game and saved what they worked on. My fond hope, dare I say dream, is that someday it will all be released to the fans who are apparently still so thirsty for more about the masterpiece of a game. So anyway, any confirmation of there being old assets or lack thereof that you know?

[@Morlun91]

+ParappatheRapper You mean something saved not in the released game but in their own databases? There has never been a word on that, but it's not to be excluded. We don't know what's their politic on backup and archiviation of data so we don't know if these materials still exist or they have been erased in these years. Anyway it's safe to assume nothing of that stuff is complete and probably much of that is not even playable. It would be a great discovery but I can't picture them releasing it for any reason... That's how they are these japanese developers.

[@ParappatheRapper]

Morlun91 Thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm aware how they do things which is a shame, but I figure it's better to hope on a long shot then give up completely. Thanks for clarifying though.

[@RedBatNicholas]

I remember watching these kinds of videos about SotC lore and beta content and such when I was 10 years old, so seeing this stuff pop up again recently has been quite a trip down memory lane. I was always really fascinated particularly by Pelagia's little back area. There's something so off the beaten path, and sort of secret about Pelagia's arena. The way the bridge kind of looms over it, with the forest on the other side of the bridge, I've always felt like Pelagia's area had to have some kind of deeper secret to it, because compared to most other colossi approaches in the game, it's a lot more concealed. Even like, Kuromori, or Barba's arenas are partially visible from elsewhere in the world, and you fight them underground. One thing I've noticed is how similar Pelagia's bridge looks to the unused dam

[@ToxUOfficial]

Shadow of the Colossus is just one of those games where I wish I could play it... and then forget everything about it so I can play it again with the same amount of amazement. "I have to kill that thing?"

[@Raffaele6Barbaro]

A smile appeared on my face when the elder scrolls soundtrack kicked in a 7:40

[@Eternally_Moon]

SAAAME it makes me so happy

[@bugdomrulez]

i come back every once in a while to rewatch this video. just excellent

[@FunnieRat]

This dude is the reason I fell in love with this game, if only every community had players as dedicated to the game as you were

[@woopdedo3]

Can't believe you're still making such interesting videos even after 5+ years. Keep it up, man

[@ander_leza-por-zing7118]

Éstos vídeos valen oro! Gran trabajo descubriendo e investigando y analizando las ubicaciónes Nomad colossus!!! Sé que no leeras esto pero tu vídeo estuvo muy genial!!!

[@NomadColossus]

Obrigado!

[@gabrielmarchisio6604]

I pop into the Last Big Secret forum thread once every few months after having been really invested in the intersecting points stuff while in high school. I graduated from college last year, and it's awesome to see you are still picking this game apart. Incredible work, Nomad.

[@AndrewFMs]

Wow, as always, incredible detective work. I'm surprised there was just enough information still there to narrow down the locations of the beta colossi to this degree. Interesting that the Turtle colossus originally belonged to I3... never would have guessed that. Also cool to know that the Devil colossus presumably was located next to the dam. I always figured that either some colossus battle would have taken place on the dam, or that the dam would be leading to a colossus arena. The shot at 17:00 makes me kind of sad. I never saw the "brick area" from that angle, and always presumed it was just a dead-end cliff. However, that screenshot makes it very clear it would have continued on (probably a long ways) into H2, but all that data has been deleted from the disk...

[@NomadColossus]

AndrewFMs Thanks Andrew, always nice to hear from you ; )

[@NomadColossus]

Nomad Colossus Note: Andrew - check your KZbin messages, I sent you a PM.

[@bv657]

For some reason, that nighttime skyrim music is super inspirational to me.

[@Mousecaddet]

I was always so upset that they discarded the spider colossi. It looks so interesting and seems as though it would have been a new technique for how to fight it. I understand why a lot of colossi were scrapped, but it does make me wish they were all included. I would kill for new colossi to fight. Thank you so much for the video Nomad, amazing and impressive as always!

[@StraightUpIrishJames]

This is absolutely outstanding work!I applaud you friend!This game will live on in the hearts of true gamers forever! Keep up the amazing work! :D

[@ganaham9144]

Shame that the spider got removed, it looked really cool.

[@Varrekt]

Thanks for doing all this research into finding out this stuff, and continuing it so long after the game came out. I really love watching your videos.

[@dandy2978]

I love when the music kicks in when it says the monkey at 4:55

[@jedreed2567]

The skyrim music for the roc really fits it. Good job

[@theredeft5319]

I love how these beta colossus are like some actual mythical creature with grainy photos and all. I just wish that the remake showed some creativity and initiative in bringing these back.

[@lucasjohansson2158]

Amazing dude, great work Greetings from Brazil!

[@RhySinn]

This just keeps getting more interesting

[@KuroSelene]

Not only for the new things you guys have discovered, but I'm really glad to see more SotC videos coming from your channel, Nomad! It's really awesome that you can still find more and more stuff about this awesome game after all these years. Thanks for the upload and keep up your awesome work

[@bingbrazeau674]

You think that fans could use the left over assets from the game to at least start on a modification of some sort that adds the 8 missing colossi into the game? It seems like it could be possible with Unity.

[@MarsMann6754]

it's moreso the AI that's the problem. It'd be quite tough to not only replicate the art style, but the animation style and the AI thinking.

[@thekingofscrump]

Well you got the remaster part right

[@Makus]

I love how much passion and care went into this video, thanks for doing it, Nomad!

[@djwilliandb7]

Amazing job, Nomad!

[@ShogunTheMage]

It's wonderful that some people is still finding more stuff and showing them to everyone. You're awesome dude, really, keep being like this!

[@Bugbag100]

I'm so surprised every time a new SotC video comes up. I've been following these for years and people are still finding things. Love your videos! I remember the days Pikol was looking for stuff back in 2009. I was actually online the night he found the dam on the gamespot forums. Good times. Out of the removed colossus, I think the worm is the one that looks the coolest. Sad it was cut. I've never heard of Dormin mentioning a friend though. I wonder if you would have fought Dirge early in the game, and then the worm towards the end? I couldn't see fighting them both at the same time. Thanks for posting what you have found, it's definitely keeping the mystery of my favorite game alive.

[@NomadColossus]

Bugbag100 Confirmed. You were there! Sorry for any doubt, but I looked it up. First post is at 3:47pm, looks like your time zone was convenient for this monumental occasion! The next post is early the next day 7:46am (after a good night's sleep dreaming about the Dam I suspect xD).Note: You said you wrote a review - is that still available? And yes, the whole idea of Wander fighting two colossus, one after the other is complete rubbish! This was posted on the Team Ico wiki as fan fiction, but somehow it has evolved into a myth that fans believe is true, much like the 17th colossus or an alternate ending. But I can tell you that there is no truth in it.

[@Bugbag100]

Nomad Colossus Nah, I deleted all of my old stuff. I was really young then so my grammar was terrible. In those days though I practically lived Shadow of the Colossus. It's still my favorite game. I remember searching every corner of the world in those days just trying to find something new. I never found anything of course, but it was the most fun I've had exploring a game. I'm still exploring after all this time even though I know you and Pikol have practically pulled this game apart and examined every little detail. When Pikol found the Dam I was freaking out thinking a removed colossi model might still exist around there. Sad there wasn't one. And yes, I remember reading that on the Team Ico wiki many years ago. I actually thought it was fact then, but one of your videos made me think otherwise.

[@NomadColossus]

Bugbag100 'When Pikol found the Dam I was freaking out thinking a removed colossi model might still exist around there. Sad there wasn't one'. Your feeling was right it turns out! As the Devil lived right next to the Dam, even though it was removed the Dam would have been an epic background to this colossus battle ; )

[@Bugbag100]

Nomad Colossus I was guessing the Monkey at first but really happy the area for the devil (used to call him the bat), has finally been found. I used to think he was around colossi 14's area, that little observatory place near there with the pillars reminded me of him. It looks like a small arena. I think you did a video of it a very long time ago, might be wrong though. I'm actually happy so much didn't make it into the game. Something about it gives the game this unique feeling, this sense of exploration no other game has given me. Those colossus have so much mystery surrounding them, it wouldn't be the same if they were in the game.

[@NomadColossus]

Bugbag100 'I'm actually happy so much didn't make it into the game'. 'It wouldn't be the same if they were in the game'. I think you are the first person ever to admit this! Everyone else (including me) always talk about how they wish the game was completed! I have always dreamed of a full '24 colossi' version of the game, but I really get where you are coming from. Would there be as much mystery and speculation if all the colossi were included? Pikol wouldn't have found the Dam, the beta mountains and all the other left over content which I (and others) have spent 6 years exploring. It would just be like any other game where there is no need to look for secret content. Sure, the nature of the game would entice players to look for more secrets, but all those 'leftover' lands wouldn't have been there and as such, the game wouldn't be as mysterious as it is today - so thanks for your perspective, I had never considered this 'alternate reality' before ; )

[@rjc0234]

fantastic. just shows the effort put into a game through its development, what changes, what is added, and some fantastic snooping and searching to try to uncover the devs lost work

[@Srm2823]

Nomad, every time I see one of those videos it reminds me when I was younger and questioned every single thing in games, looking for mysteries and cut content. Nowadays is difficult to find a game to do that... I feel really sad knowing there aren't many possibilities to get those cut colossi back... But the child I have inside keeps dreaming about it every time I see your videos. I even had my own speculations about colossi in the past, but what can I say to your evidence? I read all your blog in one sit when I saw the video you talked about the rings where you fight Phalanx and I started to search for more info about the unused colossi, and every search I did it leaded me to your info. In those years you made me replay the game a lot of times, just because something told me there was something more that I didn't see the last time (even if I was aware that all the content I was missing wasn't accessible by playing through the game). For all this and more thanks for making those videos! Like many I'm looking forward The Last Guardian and the mysteries it will come with.

[@MrRemorseless]

It's astonishing how much work you and your friends put into this stuff, Nomad. Really something, man.

[@raltor20]

A question for everyone. If you could choose to have one of these colossi brought back, which one would it be and why?

[@napplepapple]

turtle

[@raltor20]

rutherford levensque The turtle is in the game

[@NomadColossus]

+Simmers2000 I would like to see the Spider and the Devil most of all I think.

[@raltor20]

Nomad Colossus Yes I think that the spider would be a nice addition. Phoenix I think would be a cool boss fight too.

[@napplepapple]

the long legged turtle

[@Flamis541]

I have watched this video about three times now. Truly incredible work, it's fascinating to see what could have been.

[@Frostdrop1]

Shame they discarded some of these collosi. Most of these are more creative than some in the final game and look rather unique. The game might've been a bit more diverse if some of these were kept instead. They're all good but I really would've liked some of these in the final game.

[@SofaKingOverThisIsh]

It amazes me that you spent so much time on this. I mean that in a good way, bravo!

[@spaghettijoe2705]

Devil is probably one of the most creepiest looking colossi. And he isn’t even in the game.

[@Rohtix]

Watching this is like uncovering more mysteries behind a fairy tale. I'm happy with the colossi they chose. It may just be me, but the ones I saw here do feel out of place. Probably because I've never seen them before. Thank you for all your hard work. This video is a treat for sure.

[@duwanglover3424]

I’d pay huge money to see SotC with all 48 planned colossi

[@nonnone7060]

Unfortunely 48 was only a number. 48 planned but not designed, or even thought about. 24 were only designed and planned. Shame, I just bought the game and only fought the first 5 bosses but these look so unique. Devil looks cool as all hell, spider looks so creepy and alien like, not to mention it looks like a house with legs on it! It looks like something out of castlevania lords of shadows or what ever! and just the thought of worm is terrifying! A colossus so big it was too big for the already giant map? Damn, gives me goosebumps. And its design is scary too! So simple yet so horrifying, no eyes, just a giant mouth you have to get into to destory it.

[@vlwallace224]

I really love your work Nomad! Especially anything to do with both the present colossi, and the past colossi. This game is one of my absolute favorite games of all time for being a beautiful, epic, and surprisingly underrated gem of a game. It's an absolute masterpiece! Best wishes, from me... i guess..... *is very shy* anyway, Woof :3

[@Mepphy99]

My god the Monkey and the Spider colossus looks amazing. Thanks for your work and have discovered this thing... I really hope I'll be able to battle againist all the 24 Colossi. Please Ueda gives us more colossi in the PS4 version ;/

[@obi-wankenobi5730]

What if I told you there's a certain project in the works as of now.... Where you CAN battle them after all

[@Grapefruit5000]

I am pretty sure that a ton of work went into this video but it was worth it! Amazing work, my friend!

[@honeybadger4396]

Wow,it seems like you're obsessed with this game,and that's why I like you,you find such interesting things,I've been watching you for quite a while now.I just really hope one day Shadow of the Colossus 2 get's released.

[@JulesMarsTM]

This is almost 3 years old, damn. Love your videos and especially looking at the concept art and early pictures of the unused colossi... would have been so interesting to see them in game. I love this game to bits and I love your passion for it. :)

[@Quonzer]

I for one wish we knew more about Dionin (Worm).

[@4lfie-]

Your videos are amazing, they show true dedication and I can tell how much effort you've put into them! Thanks for making such rich content for this gem of a game and I hope your channel gets more attention. Peace out.

[@blacktdi1289]

We need a version of the game with all the colossi that didn't make it we should start a riot to get it

[@evilgokuhacker3985]

Al chat mN

[@kyfa8718]

Akbar Bagus 8 months later

[@zonyae29047]

Akbar Bagus "Need a remake" Friend the future is now and the remake is beautiful

[@DisposableSanitarium]

Okay now we need a sequel with 48 Colossi lol

[@vladimirtiffany]

DisposableSanitarium I agree

[@Momon143]

As usual, awesome job (and Morlun91 too)! I doubt Team Ico ever thought anyone would be able to look this deep into their game. We're just a month and a half away from E3 now! Here's hoping we Team Ico fans have something to talk about this year!

[@viktortzarofthexbox2987]

The monkey colossus looks bloody terrifying. I had a hard enough time in the water snake fight.

[@mr.monkecolossus444]

Yeah, its design was just disturbing for me...

[@mr.monkecolossus444]

And now I am the monke

[@Wormy0172]

Oooo, the Phoenix evidence made me tingle inside hahah, awesome video! You're amazing at all this, Nomad.

[@obi-wankenobi5730]

For those wondering here are the reasons some of these colossi were removed: Griffin: took too long to retry Phoenix: lose too much health upon falling off Spider: unable to program in the intended method in(in other words, they couldn't get the intended method to work during the programming phase) Roc: issues with collision detection and unable to find a good solution(this can be seen during that clip)(in other words, it was too glitchy, and the *only* method that worked was discarding it) Sirius: the way to defeat it just wasn't working out(basically, the intended method wouldn't work the way they'd thought it would) Yamori A: Ueda thought it'd be pointless to pretty much show a carbon copy Devil: Its wing attack was too powerful and killed the player too easily and they were too far in development to rearrange anything, so it was easier to just discard it Just for the record, this is what is revealed on the sotc wiki

[@oaksynia7353]

Man, some of them i feel like would be very easy to fix. Like the devil and phoenix, just reducing the damage would be better than scraping it entirely

[@btab2772]

@@oaksynia7353 Note that these aren’t the only reasons. Most of not all were cut due to other things like time constraints, ps2 limitations, biases, and other things

[@btab2772]

And ONE of the reasons why worm was cut was because it’s movements being too flexible and un shadow of the colossus like

[@obi-wankenobi5730]

@@btab2772 what were the other reasons?

[@btab2772]

@@obi-wankenobi5730 I think that was the only reason given, but it is likely that other things contributed to its removal

[@adrilu240]

Nomad, you never stop to amaze me :D, you and the other guys did a REALLY good job in this video/information, everything suits so well. Btw, you made me smile with that ending, amazing

[@shutuptravis5609]

I can’t believe no one has made a mod or fan game putting these colossi in

[@meowsandstuff]

I am.

[@hariup7506]

@@meowsandstuff any progress?

[@meowsandstuff]

@@hariup7506 Yes. Most of our progress is posted on our Discord: discord.gg/7fxwggB There's also a reddit thread detailing current progress: www.reddit.com/r/ShadowoftheColossus/comments/e7eo6l/beyond_the_forbidden_lands_public_technology_demo/

[@TheAleatoryFramesz]

@@meowsandstuff youtube link please

[@meowsandstuff]

@@TheAleatoryFramesz we don't have any videos yet

[@ErMcValdemar]

I'm speachless! What you have done as research is incredible. Kudos also to Molun91. Thanks guys!!!!

[@darkcloud3599]

Can you imagine how disturbing it would have been playing this when you were a kid, and then facing the devil? so fucking scary

[@jackthomas8522]

Glad to see you back

[@Mamarretax]

you saw that ..in the monkey image it says "stage:4"?...so he was to be the fourth colossus. maybe the cave where we was going to fight monkey is that 4 "houses" that we need to enter to climb the 4th colossus

[@holyboy1]

I literally just noticed and thought of the exact same thing. And I read this comment of yours mere minutes after. And 3 years after your post. Incredible.

[@karlat4568]

This game is so dauntingly incredible. Actually daunting is a really good way to describe it. From the colossus to the huge world, to what it could have been… Love it!

[@momoandmiz]

thank GOD the giant spider got taken out

[@ganaham9144]

Really? That was the one I wanted to fight most.

[@KyKyBalao]

Mumkhar The Homs me to

[@vladimirtiffany]

I wish the spider was in the game

[@alicewalls2095]

Very well done! My face lit up though when I heard Secunda from Skyrim @ 7:37 :D Keep up the great work. So glad I subscribed to you.

[@Hershewed]

Why couldn't they have added a dragon colossus? I know they have Kuromori, but still, there is only 1 flying colossi in the actual game itself, and I know 4 of the colossi in this video could fly and one is burning embers, but do they breathe fire like Kuromori? No, but if they had brought in a dragon instead of the Phoenix, that would have been cooler. Also the Roc colossi is named Avus.

[@Shmandalf]

+hannah weaver There are 2. Phalanx flies, and is arguably one of the most epic fights. I think two flying colossi is a fair amount - I wish they'd done more with the underground ones (like the worm) or underwater ones.

[@ArkhamKnight-zn8dt]

@@Shmandalf no no no more underwater.

[@wintermelon6390]

@@Shmandalf come on you never enjoying 10.000 feet in air

[@BobbinRobbin777]

@@wintermelon6390 on a giant furry/rock-monster? pfft

[@wildanvk]

I watch this video for many times, but never get bored :D the mysterius feeling never dissapear.. this is one of the best video i've ever watched :D you're the best Nomad ;)

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks ; )

[@troys5560]

that fucking spider... holy shit

[@DrunkFrodo]

Wow, this is very in depth! Thank you very much for your time and effort into creating such an insightful video:)

[@bina20001030]

ive seen this video and read your blog on this and i find myself wishing that i could fight all the deleted colossi especially the worm

[@diceice9126]

I am always so excited to see your new content come up! You make the best shadow of the colossus videos and they are always so beautiful! Good job!

[@NomadColossus]

Damn, first dislike!

[@Morlun91]

Nomad Colossus Well it was already a record. It was probably some kid who wanted to be the first dislike because he is 8 or something. Too bad, but no big deal:)

[@MohamedAkhbar]

I love your videos. All the suggestions and speculations. This game for me has a great impact on me. The mood on this game is haunting, in a good way. The need to survive and at same time to revive Wander's girl. Hunt down the colossis, seeing all the previous life gone and ruins left behind. Great job bro.

[@kalebhoward129]

I was thinking maybe if you got enough donations to pay them would they be willing to make the other 8 at least might work, sadly they might only take payment in yen not other currencies or maybe I heard there's one country where one American dollar is the equivalent of over 100$ to that country

[@kalebhoward129]

I would also like a prequel to shadow of the colossus or just a little booklet to tell you what happened before just to know what happened to what's her name mono is it

[@matheusleal7483]

Nomad i have discovered a glitch in Phalanx on PS3 xD

[@SoftNapkins]

Your videos have reignited a fire inside me for this game! The old demo, PS2 and PS3 versions sit on my shelf... PS4 next! Your blogs are amazingly well written, too. Thanks for the awesome content!

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks! Really appreciate your comment ; ) I'm glad you like my blogs as well, I spent a lot of time writing them - but love putting them together as I can just vent all the stuff I have in my brain into text form xD. I myself prefer the older demos and early versions over the newer (sexier) versions!

[@SoftNapkins]

Nomad Colossus They don't make demos like they used to... ;-;

[@jakemiller5328]

How the hell are there dislikes? this video is perfect.

[@metagrinder]

Nice video Nomad, best speculations so far! Now it makes sense the Great Tree have importance about Roc, because like Worm, it is next to Dirge area, Great Vídeo!!!

[@BombasticLion]

If people can mod this game then we need some mods that add in battles with the deleted colossi

[@cattushi]

it would be fucking hard

[@BombasticLion]

Nyoron Churuya-San To make or to play? I would imagine both.

[@wrench6016]

Alex Gates due to not having models of the unused colossi

[@leon9021]

Man the dedication and skills of you guys always amazes, great job, Thanks!

[@TheZombieburner]

It's a shame these were cut. I'd have loved to fight them. Maybe the upcoming remake will restore one or two of them. Yeah, probably not, but I can dream!

[@mcrazza]

Excellent work, as always. For undying fans like myself it's truly appreciated. :) Man, I just wish someone from Team ICO (past or present) could shed more light and offer some definitive information. Words, screenshots...anything.

[@mubarakzahruddin]

If only SotC released recently ,these colossi battles would be in DLC

[@blitzy7961]

mubarak zahruddin if it was released recently, you'd only get 8 colossi. The other 8 would be dlc. And the unused would only be available if you pre ordered.

[@theodorematsouliadis5124]

Blitzy You would also get a skin for wander,if you download the sotc app on your phone.

[@F1nicky]

The Only Peo You can hear Nomad scream

[@thescruffinator8830]

@@blitzy7961 None of these are true, even a new game like the last guardian never had any DLC or microtransaction. it's all in the original game.

[@blitzy7961]

@@thescruffinator8830 Yeah that's true. I made that comment a long time ago without knowing much about exclusives and which companies were actually trash.

[@Birko1991]

Wow, I knew that there were Sirius' animations left in the game but it never crossed my mind that they can be uploaded to another colossus! Awesome work as always Nomad Colossus and Morlun91 !

[@NomadColossus]

Birko1991 Thanks, I tried with Quadratus (#2) first but it didn't work, next I tried with Cenobia (#14), but the model has no head so you have to manually add the head to the body in the SotC viewer (which for me at least is a pain)... so I just used Celosia (#11). In fact I was going to add Celosia's backwards steps in comparison to Sirius (as they are very different). Celosia lowers its head a lot more as it moves backwards but Sirius seems to stay upright.

[@Birko1991]

Nomad Colossus Well, I guess they look different because purposes of those animations are different. Celosia is backing away from fire of fear and lowering head is natural in animals who are scared. In case of Sirius, it may have been used when it was trapped in that stone structure to free itself. Or when Wander was standing too close to attack him (I assume its way of attack was charging on enemy at full speed since Wander would ride Agro and way to defeat it was to get it stuck in Stonehenge thing). Who knows (besides Team ICO)? Also one thing: since in OPM demo there is that "bird" icon on the map indicating possible location of Phoenix and animation for sword attack that was supposed to used against Spider... It probably means that both of those colossi were removed very shortly before the demo release. I wish there was a demo where we could fight one of the unused colossi :( Thanks again for a lot of hard work you're putting in those wideos and your blog :D

[@DesoloZantas]

Someone needs to finish making this game

[@wintermelon6390]

Should I?

[@meowsandstuff]

@@wintermelon6390 I already am.

[@Wikk3dJ4ck]

@@meowsandstuff really?

[@meowsandstuff]

@@Wikk3dJ4ck Yes.

[@Bunny-zg4hd]

@@meowsandstuff How's it going?

[@deltoranhero4661]

YEEAAAAAAH! Awesome video Nomad! I've been waiting for another beta colossi video :') Thank you so much man you just made my day...

[@teamvirus6895]

I love this game. The creator should rerelease the game on the PS4 and add the 8 other colossus's in it.

[@nicktayler2046]

why not the full 48

[@teamvirus6895]

+Nick Tayler because 48 colossus is too much

[@nicktayler2046]

Team Virus nonits not we have the technology

[@charizardmaster13]

+Nick Tayler theres not enough to go by we dont even know what they look like

[@nicktayler2046]

Paul Smith we dont know but the game devs do

[@liamsmith05]

Thanks for another awesome video. the work you and the many other SotC fans do to dig up the hidden gems of this game is still amazing to this day.

[@NateYet]

Nomad I have a thing for you to look upon. In the hydrus lair if you jump as the tendril things touch you. You will fall through the water and under the map. And when it happens to me, I saw some stuff in the distance, but because I have no mods or anything, I couldn't explore myself. Idk if it was just my copy is glitchy or what but if you can do it. It may be a good video idea. I also have an idea of ico came before sotc.

[@NomadColossus]

nathan yetton Yes, that glitch has been known since the beginning... the stuff you can see in the distance is just some low res areas of other arenas and places in the forbidden lands. They look weird from a distance but when you get up close to them they render into the familiar places we have all seen.

[@steelcurtain187]

This is such phenomenal work…best game ever. I can’t get enough of all of these discoveries and unused things in the game. Maybe one day we will actually get to play some of these as intended.

[@adamnapolitano432]

Question, could the spider have instead just been around the wonder freely around the desert area around the bridge? Also could it's 'temple' be located under the entrance temple at the end of the bridge cause that's a pretty flat cliff side if I remember correctly.

[@Morlun91]

***** No because the cliff points to the curved side of the bridge "supports" which means it gives the back to the castle. Long story short it's on the other side of the entrance before this was introduced in the game. Anyway it was probably a really old test area, not a definitive one. Artbook mentions water in its arena, but in every image only a desertic area is shown. Spider was scrapped out very early into development, the map was much different back there. More explanations here: nomads-sotc-blog.blogspot.it/2011/07/unusedbeta-colossi.html

[@adamnapolitano432]

Morlun91 Oh, neat. What about my theory that the spider freely roams?

[@Morlun91]

There are not enough elements to judge since he didn't have a definitive location so we can't base our speculations on the beta location where we see it. Moreover the artbook states you discover its weakspots on the legs when you lead it out of water on the land; by that we can deduce they were planning to put it in a definite location near a lake but it was discarded before. I picture something similar to quadratus lair, huge area but still an arena.

[@mr.b6454]

And now the remastered version is every day more closer, great video by the way... :D

[@dghb7410]

I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff and I struggled to wrap my head around the parts of the map that you were talking about, but maybe the spider has something to do with I don't know... keeping phalanx in? Judging by their positioning? (It's just a thrown out theory of mine and I'm probably wrong but that's something that went through my mind)

[@karlat4568]

that is actually a really cool idea. Maybe if it were in the game, you had to defeat phalanx first and then the spider, but there was this easter egg which allowed you to kill the spider first. and then phalanx flew around the whole map!

[@TheThe1ange]

I might be late to the party here but i can see that you put a lot of time and effort into this and i have to commend you for that. Well done!