Shadow of the Colossus: E3 Demo Beta Avion Gameplay

[@TokoWH]

Okay, hot take while the video is still going: The Roc was definitely a very late removal. I think the arena has elements of the original battle with Avion. I remember the dev said how Avion felt too similar to the Roc or vice-versa, so they gave Avion a long tail to make it different. In the video, we can see a lot of small pillars around the arena with Avion sitting on the tallest one, its tail just BARELY out of reach. I think originally how you were supposed to beat them was to lure them onto one of the smaller pillars somehow which would allow you to grab onto the tail. You can see that Avion uses it's hover animation much more frequently in this build, and it kind of looks like it's almost trying to land. Additionally, it's tail doesn't have a sigil, further leading evidence that it was only meant to be scaled.

[@teamstage0987]

You're right, we predict most of the unused colossi were cut approximately 3 or 4 months prior to this build based on Ueda's comment of there being "around 20" colossi in the game as of December 2004 and lots of assets from the Red Hair Beta that have yet to have been replaced or finished in the E3 Demo.

[@lorduncon6869]

As stated by Ueda, Avion would be beating its wings to create bursts of wind, so you'd originally have to dive underwater and make your way around the arena until you reached its tail, which would be touching the water. This build still contains some leftovers of that old idea, since Avion will start beating its wings at you if you dive underwater during the fight. They were transitioning from the old strategy to the final one at the time. Also, Avion was the one who was modified to be like Roc later on, not the other way around.

[@finden3362]

Nomad, in his 2011 post, found a lot of unnused codes of the removed collossi.

[@itsvinilol]

Ok virgian

[@azideiaman]

@@teamstage0987 what is the comand to select the colossus?

[@stormageddon132]

This is amazing work. I can only imagine what assets and historical SotCness the future has in store for this

[@thegoodwin]

3:21 - Wander fires arrow and misses. Wander: bleep

[@deranged_miyeon_stan]

I was so confused cus I thought you were referring to Wanda from Marvel and spent a good minute analyzing what you meant to not believe Im stupid then suddenly remembered that Wanda's his Japanese name lmao

[@thegoodwin]

@@deranged_miyeon_stan , oh. That's okay. I completely understand the confusion. If anything, I went back and edited my comment to make it "Wander" instead of Wanda since that's what a lot of people addreessed the main protagonist as.

[@ToastyTeresa]

Wander: *Misses* ... FUCK!!

[@hasi706]

Shadow Of The Colossus if it were a "modern" game

[@thegoodwin]

Avion intro: whoa! That looks crazy. Avion arena: this looks very different and interesting.

[@thegoodwin]

At around 9:00 - it'll be cool if there's a crash animation of Avion crashing into that tower and breaking it.

[@sa-x7882]

Awesome job guys! it's great to see early builds of SOTC and compare them to the final game. That avion cutscene at the start looks awesome, even though it's short!

[@AirshBornely]

Dang I need to catch up on this beta stuff. Is there a video detailing all the difference yet with each Colossi? That would be very interesting

[@btab2772]

teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Colossus_(E3_Demo) Just go to the colossi section

[@odave]

Amazing video! It would be nice if Avion landed this crashed colums. And that "arms" in the bag remember makes me remember the Jampack Demo for PS2.

[@donald984]

Such an amazing fight and design

[@peterfthagn3646]

Wander has such a dirty mouth in this build.

[@leandromadeireira8840]

how did you find a way to play this ?

[@BornEvilXIII]

Do you think that someday we could get our hands on the pre E3 build? I would be insane

[@PedroHenrique-do9nt]

If we get a build of january 2005, there's a chance of at least one unused colossus being in it.

[@Scrubermensch]

This is by far the most impressive thing on this new found beta. I heard that those scrapped pillars are part of another beta colossus, but I forgot which one. Also the choice of songs for this is really off I can see why they did substitute In Awe of the Power for Silence on the final version, and lastly, why does the camera on this beta version work so much more beautifully than on the final version? Wander looking small under water with a further take is pretty awesome and makes the playability better than the close up can on the final version. Great piece of techarcheology Also also: 9:09 T-posing to assert dominance

[@btab2772]

The pillars that are unused in the final version were once used for avions old strategy

[@ginobovino3512]

Where can i get the demo with the debug enabler?

[@rikkis4104]

So is this available online as in a rom? If not, will it be dumped?

[@marcioandrade2966]

Does anyone have the iso of this demo with access to all the colossi for download?

[@WandersFactory]

Is it juste or do you guys also dislike the beta aiming system

[@crustyboyjosh2947]

Thats probably why they changed it in the final build

[@mrroblinx]

Oh I hate it, if not for that the beta fights would be so much better

[@thegoodwin]

I say that the bleeping going on is Wanda cussing for every missed shot from his 🏹.

[@BornEvilXIII]

yeah it's kinda janky

[@F1nicky]

hey guys whats with the beeping?

[@thegoodwin]

Possibly, it's part of the debugging.

[@Kai_Mercer]

@@thegoodwin it is the game knows your not supposed to be doing this so it just starts beeping

[@pholux5647]

In the E3 demo, will we be able to battle with some excluded colossus, in some way, or is there no more?

[@mrroblinx]

they were likely deleted by that time already

[@BornEvilXIII]

that's probably way before the E3 2005 stuff

[@lincolnlog5977]

They were likely deleted like 3-4 months prior to this demo

[@tiagobinz9186]

Is this an actual leaked build from E3?

[@Bunny-zg4hd]

Yeah, SOTC had a one colossi demo playable at E3 2005 but it was lost until someone donated it (and thousands of other early PS2 games) to Hidden Palace

[@No-cs2xf]

@@Bunny-zg4hd how exactly do people have these roms?

[@skymaniacs4502]

@@No-cs2xf Hidden Palace had uploaded the rom online for people to download, I won't link it since that could be rather troublesome. But you can find it with ease by just searching for Hidden Palace's "Project Deluge".

[@caedutiger9362]

2:16 pause it Please someone make a meme with this XD

[@Goob4430]

You do it

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Graceful death cutscene

[@sanduba57]

It'd be cool if Avion collapsed with the structures

[@majorpeepo]

Maybe it was a idea they had ?

[@joeymorrell1126]

I got a deal with a the air was fixed it good😎😎

[@Neuronio_queimado]

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