Shadow of the Colossus - More map mysteries

Here are some maps I ripped using the Dormin model viewer that reveal some interesting new finds including some extra map squares never before seen and their possible meaning. Note: WWWArea found the invisible collisions at D8 and also noticed how the G0 beach like cliffs from the Preview version matched up with one of the maps.
Thanks go to HEXDREL for helping me with the Dormin model viewer maps ; )
I used music from Mass Effect 3, Skyrim Elder Scrolls V and Assassin's Creek 2
Check out map maps blog post here:
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Colossi battle image:
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[@aiirysachiika1902]

i like how they created this game. rather than delete the stuff they didn't use in the game, they rather hide it and put it somewhere far from the land. like skies, far underground etc. and it feels like they're effortless. rather than remove the collisions they rather just make it invinsible and unreacable by remove the pathways. i really love this game haha.

[@aiirysachiika1902]

Many years after and i am still here! I came back once in a while to admire the mysteries! Thank you nomad! ❤

[@randysmith4352]

There is a large, accessible beach, south of Dirge. There is nothing there; and the absence is extremely suspicious. They went to the trouble to program a mile of winding ramp leading to the beach, for no apparent reason. Wander cannot access the water, as (fairly rapid) waves wash him back to shore. This setting does not match ANY of the artwork/descriptions for the known "lost" colossi. *Speculation Time* This beach (or, the ocean just beyond) would be the site of an epic battle with Kraken; a giant squid-type colossus that attempts to crush Wander by slapping the beach with its massive tentacles. This battle would have been problematic for the designer, because if Wander lingered on a withdrawing tentacle, he could be pulled beyond the game area, possibly irretrievably. Wander would, most likely, defeat the Kraken by hopping on a tentacle (after a beach slap) and stabbing it, causing it to become immobile, on the sand. The process would be repeated until the squid pulls itself to shore to complete the battle on land (walking on small crab-like legs, with armor resembling a conch shell).

[@JacopoMoruzzi]

Interesting theory. I explored that area too, expecting to find some kind of easter egg. Sadly it was just a beautiful emptiness.

[@Gaminating]

It's the beach from ICO

[@NomadColossus]

Jacopo Moruzzi Beautiful emptiness - such a fitting description of the game!

[@emmanuelmurced407]

This video hits differently after all this time... It's... Nostalgic...

[@thiagonunes4294]

cheers

[@thiagobravo]

man, the music compilation is great.

[@Armidillodude]

Kind of wish they made a game like this again rather than the last guardian (which is taking forever) I'm sure it'll be a good game anyway if it is ever released. It's amazing how long such a simple game can last and still find new things, It's one of the most beautiful games I've ever played

[@CoreviZecter]

SotC also took forever, as did Ico. the problem was that Sony pressured them into announcing it way too early.

[@dylanb4539]

How did you think of The Last Guardian?

[@leonfire99]

​@@dylanb4539 same development team.

[@BurkhardtGaming]

makes me sad knowing that their are probably files on someones pc who worked on the game with a completely different map and the missing colossi that is playable :/

[@MrSecretMansion]

So true...

[@kingboris1118]

Ask one off the creators, they will know and give you the files

[@lbp3revolutionarygroup342]

@@kingboris1118 it isnt that easy pal Nomad himself commented that once he tried to contact one of the developers of sotc, but unfortunately he said that no one answered him

[@lumps17]

@@lbp3revolutionarygroup342 Team Ico has a certain mentality about giving no information to foster theories and intrigue in their communities. Though it is frustrating because it is so goddamn intriguing.

[@tomempisse7394]

Your videos turned into time capsules Nomad, poetic but nostalgic energy

[@RamosProductions000]

It's so sad to know that most of these game mysteries will never be answered or solved.

[@billyfung4270]

B6 definitely devil den for sure! u can see the pillars that are shown exactly like the artbook mention about devil!

[@cheffdonty]

Absolutely fantastic! It is great to see you still making expeditions in this game and showing us all your findings after all this time.

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks ; ) Appreciate your comments!

[@dieselpower1133]

Nomad , your videos are truly phenomenal , but as I keep saying in all your videos , the beta colossi sounds are one of your biggest finds, you should look into those sounds in a new video explaining what they could be.

[@lieutenantjoker2957]

which video is this?

[@mcrazza]

How did I miss this video two months ago? :( Once again I really appreciate your investigative work on SoTC. I just wish Fumito Ueda and co could fill in the gaps.

[@calciferrr]

ohhhh nomad, been such a long week of work and school for me, and this was so fucking refreshing man. Thanks for 11 minutes of nerd chills, serenity and peace of mind.

[@NomadColossus]

Ha! I'm glad I could bring you some 'nerd chills' xD.

[@calciferrr]

Nomad Colossus or they could be nostalgia chills. I have no idea. But 1080p full screen i was getting shivers up and down my spine watching it lol. its just amazing what you have done and continue to do with this game. I fucking love it

[@NomadColossus]

John Rice Thanks my friend ; ) Sorry, but what was your user name on the Playstation forums ? Was it CouldstrifeVII or duck-of chaos? Sorry, there's so many users now... it's hard to remember all of them. But I appreciate your comments ; )

[@calciferrr]

Nomad Colossus I was Cerealandmilk lol. I never really posted ever, just lurked, only time i ever participated was alerting everyone of the preview version. dats about it

[@NomadColossus]

John Rice Oh! of course Cerealandmilk Sorry - I should have remembered that xD. You feature predominantly in my 'Preview (Pre-release) blog post ; ) Check it out here: nomads-sotc-blog.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/pre-release-preview-version.html

[@Opre010]

Nomad, have you ever explored the Malus' lair? Does it has something interesting?

[@eugenioborn]

Nomad, all this, all your videos, so much material, much more than the developers released, it is amazing to see, there is something that defines what you do for SotC, somewhat of a desperation to see so much material unanswered, where Fumito Ueda, lol. I hope to see your name in homage to some Last Guardian. My sincere compliments, a loyal fan.

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks, appreciate the comment : )

[@aristonaragao3171]

He was homaged in the remake, omg thats so cool *_*

[@FIVEOHSIXER]

I know skyrim music when I hear it

[@MrVold3mort]

nice & peaceful music nomad,I really miss the care free times when i first was playing this on my PS2 it still is my favourite game but i wish i could go back too those times. thankyou Nomad

[@casualbird7671]

Very keen observations, and it is very interesting to see the main map overlaid with color and detail. I also quite liked that pretty random ending.

[@COLDCHEMICALpresents]

I'm so glad videos like this are still being made. Long live SOTC!

[@guthetanuki256]

Oh and uh thanks for the Skyrim music, I love that game as well. Just thought I'd put that out there. Its nice to hear in the background of your information videos on Shadow of the Colossus.

[@hirotwo2018]

6:58 Roc arena 2:37 2:54 8:57 9:35 that song

[@geekkiller3000]

I was pleasantly surprised to hear the elder scrolls: morrowind soundtrack in the background there - really love that soundtrack! And of course, the series as a whole

[@landonmccabe9279]

At 2:36 the right square on the top kinda looks like Sirius's part cause in the middle there's a faint brown texture and then at the bottom there's a discolor dirt path that looks like rocks.

[@flewprettygood8911]

Played skyrim music in a sotc video and messes with the code of the game? Straight up gangster

[@btab2772]

This video is very nostalgic to me

[@kempes.]

This game is like ancient civilaztion.

[@Flama741]

Assassin's Creed... nice touch, Nomad. Again, great video as always.

[@paulcell9]

Nomad! Thank you very much for this! I am excited of that island in there! Wow. I wish i could have battled againts that colossus. :3

[@thegmetimecrewletsplays]

okay my speculation of the low res mountains is that the spot was originally dirges arena, but i had to be switched to the cave due to issues where he couldn't ram the mountain wall

[@metagrinder]

Happy birthday Nomad!

[@Fbcos221]

How many years has it been now? GOD! I love this game, and I love you Nomad! Great music as well, loved the AC2 song. As to the narration, VaatiVydia has a great narrator voice, but I'm not sure he's into SotC.

[@blackship14]

thank you nomad for sharing this, by the way I remember one of your videos where you combined both shadow of the colossus and ico castle map, but I cant find it anymore, could you please send a link for that video? thank you so much and keep up the good work :)

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks ; ) It was this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpbSZKSirL5lms0

[@fgv3357]

Nomad will you also investigate The Last Guardian? i would love to see that

[@jahovajackson]

your videos are brilliant. you're one of my favorite youtube video makers of all time. thanks for all this content brah

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks ; )

[@tylerrahll5246]

On the topic of the possible colossus arena you found. I think it would be interesting if it was another arena, but from what I see and memory, I think it looks an awful lot like Valus' arena, just rotated 180 degrees.

[@MrRehac]

04:30 You can see the G6 texture in the final version too

[@DahakeGaming]

You know...your videos are special, they are fantastic!

[@NomadColossus]

Thanks! Appreciate the comment ; )

[@landonmccabe9279]

Also at 3:46 when you put the B6 i that spot it kinda looks like it was set somewhere else so another piece of land would be put there. It's also a lighter color than most of the squares.

[@teeonezee]

This song is fkn scary, I keep thinking a jump-scare is gonna pop out

[@teeonezee]

Is this hacked or are you exploiting the game? I assume you're hacking it because you're using emulators

[@caetrs]

ok if im going to admit this that the map when its pgotoshopped at the first picture of it it looks like an colossi so i dont know if it is just me or does any one else think it looks like an colossi?

[@W0RLDWID3G4MING]

He used the assassins creed rogue OST soundtrack at te end of the video

[@kelseylynnmac]

Can you tell me the names of the songs you used? They're great tracks. I like hearing other game tracks in your videos. Team Ico has great music, but can only be used so much, haha. Thanks for the videos, it's great to see my favorite game still has people's interest.

[@jaybristowe2346]

I love SOTC

[@Noodlemonkey7]

Would it be possible to make Skyrim and SotC into one kind of game? Like put wander in Skyrim or vice versa, putting the dragon born in the SotC map? Maybe even put a colossus instead of a dragon? Idk just thought mixing them would be cool, because I always think of Skyrim when I play SotC and I think of SotC when playing Skyrim and as far as I know nobody has made a mod of SotC for Skyrim.

[@youngg2517]

6:04 walkable you say? Seems as if that was going to be some sort of area where another colossus would be...

[@wheatonwoodspoolswimreps9242]

it that editing for the scene at the End for Argus and Valus

[@TheVideoGuy223]

good choice with mass effect

[@Erbeerte]

The map at 02:20 reminds me of Valus for some reason, haha. Do you think it is possible to remodel some things, like that island? Also, I'm impressed how many things are hidden in this game. So many years and still it isn't "completely naked". Wow.

[@Gamenerd66]

This is awesome as usual.

[@brainnim9935]

Awesome vid! I just had another crazy idea. You know how waiting in the main menu lets you see agro run randomly down preset paths? What if you froze that and found some camera control code or throttled to see all the paths? Might be something worth looking at.

[@NomadColossus]

The title screen cut scene is just like the game, so no secrets there. It's just takes over Agro's animation (or the hawks) while freezing Wander at the save shrine.

[@billyfung4270]

B3 is definitely rockt he bird/dragon den!

[@billyfung4270]

at 6.11 the 2 plane actually joined together! it is definitely a path way to some other colossus den! the top plane left hand side have gap which aloows you to walk down to the second plane! clearly the game got released be4 it was actually finished and i bet is due to the cost reason through development and they have to sell it to cover thier cost !

[@KeitaroCoS]

The D8 island looks like it could have been from the demo C7 which got changed and then later removed from the game.

[@jello411]

Skyrim soundtacks nice And Bajorca is right have you ever seen any interesting in Malus's lair?

[@casedistorted]

Do you have a video or a way to show or explore the intro cutscene areas? I've been really wanting to see all those different little hidden areas from the intro before you start the game and can't remember if there's a video showing exploration of these areas since there's no way to access them in-game, I would love to see this in detail and possibly where they're located if they actually exist in a place in the game or if they're just areas you have to load separately.

[@NomadColossus]

It's very difficult to explain how to mod the cutscenes, but I'm working on a blog post about all the stuff I have learnt over the years. This will explain step by step how to mod the cutscenes, control the colossi as well as a ton of other stuff. In the meantime you should check out this text tutorial I made years ago. It's a work in progress and is the basis for my upcoming blog post. mega.nz/#!Zo8lXBDY!Fna-uMv4QtE6CEiPCJm0Z1WRiBnkrpo15NkCSRJbx2k

[@maicolnunezcolman110]

Great final Nomad ;)

[@Shotin35mm]

I was wondering what exactly OPM stands for. But great content by the way.

[@NomadColossus]

Official Playstation Magazine

[@drestrenge8235]

at 4:55 is that the song from The elder scrolls morrowind?

[@Maceta444]

Does anyone know or speculate what the exact size of the forbidden land is ? I mean in square kms. I believe its something between San Andreas and Red Dead Redemptions size, but Im not quite sure.

[@BeverlyHighland]

What is “opm demo” and are there other kinds? I have the og ps2 demo.

[@stormageddon132]

so, nomad, have you checked number 2's cave on the ps3 collection? I can get on some rocks and I can see a back area, like a ledge, or balcony, but I can't get to it, would ya mind making a video on that? thanks :3

[@stormageddon132]

also, is that music from elder scrolls V: skyrim?

[@NomadColossus]

Yeah, I know the ledge you mean, it's on the back wall. But it doesn't lead anywhere. There is a similar ledge in #6's temple - in the room he appears from, but although Wander can stand on it, it doesn't lead to any secret area. Sorry :(

[@Drummaboie2]

That assassins music doe

[@Scrubermensch]

Hey Nomad, now that B3 is confirmed to be Shiromori's lair, do you plan on doing a new video about it? Been your fan since 2011 :D

[@damianopodobny]

Man, i dont know are you crazy are brilliant, but this is great work. I am surprised that you still discover more secrets. Have you met someone from Team Ico?

[@NomadColossus]

Nope, never met anyone. I have tried to contact someone from Team Ico but never get any response.

[@NomadColossus]

Yes, I know it's a bit obsessive, but really I'll have a hard time uploading anything else. These map squares were the last thing I hadn't seen before and I doubt I will find anything else... what I need is another version of the game ; )

[@damianopodobny]

Huh, NICO prototypes would be awesome, wondering why Team Ico doesn't contact you. By the way, are you too afraid of that The Last Guardian may be released on PS4? ICO was moved from PSX to PS2 so it's possible. And i know that i won't stand the pressure and buy next gen :D

[@NomadColossus]

damianopodobny If the Last Guardian is released on the PS4, then I will buy the console just to play the game - as I did in 2009 with the PS3... still waiting. Has been 10 years now - in 5 more years it will match Duke Nukem as the longest development time ever for a video game.

[@vaizardkurosaki810]

the second music?

[@Ribula1]

must be this invisibleisland some trace of Black Bird's domain?o_o

[@YucchiNyan]

i feel like the b3 area of the opm demo had something to do with the dragon colossus, it feels like it was near a volcano or somethnig

[@thegmetimecrewletsplays]

are you possibly referring to adar flam? or pheonix as the devolpers called him? becuase i'm preety sure he was in the imediate vicinity of the tree near # 10's lair

[@YucchiNyan]

Yes, adar flam.

[@thegmetimecrewletsplays]

HazeGSurvival yeah, the trees that were seen near him can be found near 10s lair

[@shehzadk123]

Gotta love this assassins creed 2 song and nice work nomad but i want to know why team ico had to remove these places and shrink some of them T_T

[@mikael1025]

Hey Nomad I was exploring the quadrant E5 and found one type leading to the mountains of beta E6 way it is close to that tree which has behind it the forest sits at the edge of the place which is in the tree looking down a bit to give see what looks like a path leading to E6 and that quadrant was not q you found that stone that looks much the image Avus? and a video that your tava exploring the mountain type E6 I see a part that had the same format as the edges of the arena imagems Avus there will be the arena of him? I discovered that today was the day 02/12 if you think I can answer this is right please comment ;D

[@WobblesandBean]

1:20 looks like the spot where the Phoenix colossus was gonna be. :3 I really wish they hadn't cut it!

[@randysmith4352]

The untextured area at B3 (8:00) looks more like the place for phoenix. That definitely looks like an unfinished lake, surrounded by the same kind of scorched earth we see in Bassaran's arena.

[@Dominio525]

learning from the master!

[@gabrielwag]

What's the song that starts at 2:00? It's so beautiful.

[@Ultimatega2340]

9:50 AC2 OST emeryt?

[@bobasaow3023]

u know how the demo map is wrong making a more downwards path to a large space of land, maybe the were gonna put the lizard bird there

[@JudgeMagistR]

Hey Nomad, How many information do you have regarding this C7 Island? There's a detail on the remake that makes me think there's something related to this. But I wish I could know more. If there's more. I would love to know about it.

[@Guitars77OA6]

I read on a wiki that there was 48 colossi is this true or is it a lie? Plus if they added the 8 deleted colossi on the remade edition i would've loved it to death.

[@bencarmine2]

is this music from in game or skyrim or maybe soulcaliber I want to say?

[@DracoLegends]

Wow O_O That was Awesome , Nomad you Rock xD

[@joaomarcosilvabastos]

The last guardian where are you?

[@HaveAKeyProduction]

Question: In demos version, the Dam is in the game, or any beta mountains?

[@NomadColossus]

No, no dam or beta mountains in the demos

[@zacharoninoodle]

Did you use Skyrim music in this video?

[@derelictaccount8808]

I dig the Morrowind soundtrack

[@avvrinn]

Haha, soundtrack is from Mass Effect 3? ;)

[@konihonyin]

Nice work as ever :)

[@Kargnaras]

Awesome

[@biggiechingmcding5883]

Hey Nomad how did you get that end picture? Is there a hack for the game that allows you to fight the colossi with the other colossi?

[@NomadColossus]

It's just a photoshop montage ; )

[@MrSecretMansion]

What music at 9:50?

[@051119992313]

Ezio's family- assassins creed

[@alexkeenan1534]

Durade sandstorm

[@dylanromero5981]

Music 7:00

[@nickwinkle3838]

is this background music from Morrowind?

[@wielku]

Don't use that music from Mass Effect ;_;

[@grampaglasses]

What will you do if you run out of things to find?

[@thegmetimecrewletsplays]

he won't and if he does, he can do videos of him hacking like he has before

[@taynaramelo1130]

thegme timecrew actually, if he does, he would play The Last Guardian.

[@MrPurpleHL]

Avus location??

[@YashveerB]

You are pretty good

[@blazikentwo]

Hey Nomad, could you do this kind of research with other games?

[@NomadColossus]

What other games do you mean? I've tried hacking Skyrim on the PC and God of War 2 (with mixed results). I've also tried my hand with Ico, but nothing seems to work... only with SotC can I get any real results - probably due to my vast experience with this one game (and WWWArea's help) xD

[@kuwaizair]

have you tried entering them with glitches? like all the fun glitches in Ecco: defender of the Future

[@mikael1025]

Nomad you can put my world records in your blog please? Avion 1:20:14 NTA link here My Record Avion NTA 1:20:14 Version PS2/NTSC and Dirge 0:34:94 NTA link here SOTC My Records NTA 10 and HTA 6, 10

[@thegmetimecrewletsplays]

it took you 1:20:14 to beat avion, wow, and i thought i was good

[@fragman9000]

Commander Shepard....;(

[@cedaelictwoo6514]

Is there a PC emulator for this? I would like to contribute to finding things in this game, and I feel as though it would be done more efficiently on PC.

[@NomadColossus]

Charles C Yes, the PCSX2 emulator is what I use to play this game on my PC

[@cedaelictwoo6514]

Nomad Colossus how does it run?

[@NomadColossus]

You download the latest PCSX2 emulator (free) then install it on your PC, check the PCSX2 website for instructions. You will need the BIOS files (Google them as they are illegal - don't ask me for them). You will also need the PS2 memory card files... once you have these you can play PS2 games via the emulator. That's all I can say for now!

[@Baiaaoo]

+Nomad Colossus In my pc, it is so laggy, and slowy too. There is another emulador?

[@Baiaaoo]

+Victor Hugo Baião emulator*

[@mikael1025]

Hey nomad you can help me please I want to play the Japanese version I already did all that just asks if you want one you presisa File'' SYSTEM'' I think it's just the name that has the icon of a PC that has at all PS2 games please reply me if presisa this file unable to play the PS2 version that I downloaded does not: |

[@joaomarcosilvabastos]

Você é brasileiro né? É melhor trocar o "presisa" = NEED

[@NomadColossus]

João Marcos Silva Bastos No I'm Australian (English)

[@joaomarcosilvabastos]

I know bro, I was talking to the other guy :)

[@hermest99]

dat oblivion music

[@guthetanuki256]

hermest99 skyrim music actually at 4:36. I realised it at once since I clocked in around a good solid 40 days of overall playtime into that game.

[@hermest99]

The Heartless You are right, It's The Jerall Mountains. Weird how I took it for oblivion since I have around 100 days of oblivion and 30 days of skyrim as well. Well.. it was a year ago, I guess I'll never know why I mistook it for Oblivion :p Weird.

[@guthetanuki256]

hermest99 lol its fine, we all make mistakes, dude.

[@lorddocaos]

11:02 fake or real?

[@NomadColossus]

Real