SHADY Dealer LIES ABOUT DISCOUNTS?!?! | Live Car Negotiation

[@Delivrd]

Would you consider this a bait and switch? Whats your thoughts on how dealerships are pricing their cars?

[@austinwinston684]

Tough to tell whether the employees are bait and switching on purpose or whether they are the dumbest people alive.

[@ninerbug]

I'll go with dumbest no Earth​@@austinwinston684

[@brianfusco5753]

thats why they want you to come in,.they cant take you up the ass on the phone,the need you there to apply the Vaseline

[@roycemartin9068]

What do you mean bait and switch? You’re trying to get a GM employee discount but you or nobody you know is a GM employee. How’s that a bait and switch. I could understand if you worked for GM and gave them a call to get the discount and they told you something like the discount just ended 5 minutes ago or something. I’m trying to figure out how anyone could think this is a bait and switch. And let me say, I usually agree with the buyer when it comes to the dealership/customer experience but they were straight up 🆙 just this one

[@brianfusco5753]

@roycemartin9068 are you a glue sniffer,this scab dealership didn't say you had to work for gm there add said gm employee for everyone,they were having a special event!! Gm pricing is anytime 12 months a year if you work for gm,they acted like anyone could get it during this event they were doing,you better wake up and stop being a naive fool and learn 99% of these dealerships are the scum of the earth and are looking for simpletons like yourself...fact

[@michaelhunt2502]

“I don’t work for GM, I work for Cadillac” Ma’am, were you just born?

[@austinwinston684]

"Employee Pricing For All Customers!" *family only

[@longliverocknmetal]

Paying over $100,000 for anything made by GM proves your customer has more dollars than sense.

[@ajwysopal]

🎶Just bought a cadillac 🎶

[@devn3813]

American car prices are insane now. They’re out of their mind

[@dougwarren5471]

So anything over $100,000 for a Ford is good?

[@URKlewless]

Don’t be a hater cause you’re not a multi millionaire. Wait …I don’t have any sense…how did I get so rich 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@The_Food_Police]

What are we supposed to buy? Mercedes, Ford?

[@JC-gy4xs]

Holy shit! That lady didn’t listen to a word you said because she insisted on rambling over you. VIP my ass!

[@MrRjsnowden]

This is why everyone hates buying cars.

[@SqueegeeKidNoMore]

These online ads saying “Employee pricing available” and then not disclosing that is only for actual employees/immediate family is ridiculous. It’s like going to the grocery store, seeing a can of soda for $0.25 on the price tag and getting to the register and being told “$0.25 is for employees/immediate family, your price is $3.00”…. And dealers wonder why people like myself have hired Tomi to do this for them??

[@toddrunyon]

@@SqueegeeKidNoMore It's actually listed on the ad

[@SqueegeeKidNoMore]

@ Bottom line…. If the employee pricing is only for employees / immediate family, then that should be sent in an internal communication to the employee/dependents not for the public to see and think that pricing applies to everyone. I know Target employees get a discount, but nowhere in the store or online is an employee discounted price showing. Many large companies have employee discounts / pricing for employees/dependents but only in the auto industry for decades has used the employee pricing as a tactic to try to get people to come in to their showroom and wear them down into buying a vehicle.

[@toddrunyon]

@@SqueegeeKidNoMore I agree with you but technically the information is on the ad. It's misleading.... At best. Why do they need to advertise "employee pricing" to the public if it's not applicable? Because enough people fall for it and purchase anyway.

[@Delivrd]

The fine print is there sure, but this shouldn't be something that they use to advertise. It's one of the biggest issues in the car industry.

[@Tom-6502]

They never said it was for everyone. Just an idiot customer inserting shit into the ads that wasn't there.

[@calebniederhofer6529]

This is the exact reason,why I left my previous dealership. I refuse to play games or do anything unethical. They advertise employee pricing to the public, but in the define print, It is not honored for customers. Bait and switch to get people in the store. This BS should be illegal.

[@beachside1]

Why wouldnt they just tell their employees about the discount? Why would they put it on the their website if it wasnt for the general public? The dealerships think its busineness as usual. They didnt get the memo that they would be lucky if anyone would buy a car from them. Especially cars that are 100k. Love your channel Tommy. Keep them honest

[@erics8696]

I found the dealership is in Michigan and there are a LOT of GM employees and relatives there.

[@jayfielding1333]

​@erics8696 and they all know about the discount

[@diallo1347]

They already know. Lots of people in MI work at GM, and there is zero reason to advertise it online.

[@CalvinAytch]

@@erics8696 Then they already know about the incentive, there's no reason that GM employees and relatives need to be told about the discount in the dealership's marketing.

[@tomercolino7337]

"i dont work for GM i work for Cadillac"

[@rickwatford4573]

Well she works for the dealership, not the manufacturer. It’s slimy and dishonest but that part is true.

[@jakebeckett4930]

This woman is not listening at all. Wow

[@kohakuhime_]

She is super distracted/ auto-pilot and it's frustrating

[@beachside1]

None of them are

[@simonchen6698]

They are NPCs lol

[@nupe794life]

The whole process is to get you in the showroom

[@jamesk9321]

They will say ANYTHING to get you in to the showroom.

[@chrisforker7487]

Salesman are a complete waste of space and air!

[@CodyCarSales]

Salesmen*

[@leonardyoung6821]

Bad ones are, for sure. It's a tough job that requires a lot of training. This whole team needs a ton of it.

[@kstokman]

Don’t negotiate then. Buy a car at msrp and you’ve earned the right to say that!

[@SShowkeen]

You’re dead wrong! Salesmen are the bloodline of this industry. Without them, nothing would move.

[@scable-eq7bp]

I quit dealing with car dealerships a couple of years ago, anymore I purchase from private sales or established auto auctions. My friend has a Florida dealers license so we went to the Tampa auto auction and picked up a 2021 Nissan Frontier full-cab 4x4 truck for my son. This truck only had 66,000 miles on it and we paid $8900 for it. When you walk around the auction house car lot you can run the vin # and get all the history on any vehicle.....

[@ajwysopal]

Try J&S Auto Haus they are the best 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

[@dave3657]

I’ve done well with CarMax, bought a couple vehicles outside the rust belt. One owner, low miles, no accidents, no BS haggling. I drove off with tags, ready to go.

[@zorg621]

This sounds like false advertising, complaint to ftc might be warranted

[@jamesk9321]

Car dealers have been doing it for 50 years. No complaints have stopped them yet.

[@kohakuhime_]

​@@jamesk9321 yup!

[@zorg621]

@@jamesk9321 this is likely not true. Companies get in trouble for false advertising all the time

[@zzanatos2001]

Why would anyone ever buy a $111K Cadillac when you can get a Suburban RST 6.2 L with 4WD for around $70K before any discounts? It's the exact same vehicle with a different badge on it.

[@johnnylara]

Same folks that buy Lexus v Toyota …

[@sinx2200]

Both way over priced 😂

[@alexandergage8982]

Bro the rebates are literally say it right there “GM employee price” if you aren’t a GM employee or have a family member, obviously you don’t apply 😂 loyalty is basic GM to GM, conquest is trading a non GM or having one in the household , and Costco is over 3 months of a membership, it’s straight to the point, if you don’t understand the rebates don’t just assume “GM employee price” is for everyone because in the name obviously it is not!

[@Delivrd]

In what other business does someone advertise employee price on their website that only employees qualify for? It's a marketing strategy, otherwise they wouldn't do it.

[@jasonk446]

The online prices need to match the in-store prices. This garbage is ridiculous.

[@leonardyoung6821]

If the customer doesn't mention the special offer, the first pencil is always full retail. After that, one of two things will happen: the customer buys or the customers tells you where they will buy. That's the sales process.

[@justinruhl8618]

Paying 95K for GM products is insane; working in the automotive repair field, the newer cars nowadays are not built to last. Paying over 100k for a car made in China or Mexico with terrible quality control is only part of why no one is buying new. I'm in the market for a car, and I hate dealing with dealerships.

[@dejan4666]

your patience is insane id of hung up so fast lol

[@floridamanHooning]

My man needs content lol

[@RealKevGotEm]

that GM discount is a scam bruh

[@Delivrd]

Yes it is lol

[@RealKevGotEm]

@ thanks to you and your skills I do this for people now. But I do it for Mazda and Volvo.

[@kohakuhime_]

Always learn so much from Tomi!!

[@Delivrd]

Glad I could help!

[@jonesjones7057]

To me the most annoying part is they advertise the price as 95k and after all the bs they carefully add 3k to the initial msrp for floor mats and oil changes. So after all the negotiating, you wind up right back where it all began PLUS 3k haha. Total waste of time.

[@aarons3695]

It is such a simple question. "How much is the out the door price for the car?"

[@Delivrd]

Yup! And they shouldn't be scared to give it to you.

[@scotthayesproductions5715]

i doubt many GM employees can afford to buy their own product.

[@percivalgooglyeyes6178]

The executives can.

[@drakesavory2019]

I'd report the "Employee pricing is for everyone (that is an employee)" to the FTC and let them investigate.

[@richhenry8004]

I don't have any familiy that work for GM... they're lawyers... I lold.

[@BeagleLady]

Yes, that was hilarious!

[@josephkelleher8820]

In my opinion you have to be crazy to buy a new vehicle today even if you can pay cash for it. They are crazy overpriced even if you get a 10% discount. Personally I am keeping my 12' Altima until it dies. The way I take care of my car as good or better than any 12' Camry. I say invest your money and don't buy an overpriced depreciating LIABILITY.

[@louisstennes3]

Other than being an illegal drug pusher, the retail car business must be the shadiest, deceitful and unethical business in the world.

[@Voodoo.Voodoo]

I know it’s your job but I really don’t know how you’re able to deal with these idiots all day.

[@coooooool12342]

Can you please put up your last live? It’s a lot of content to listen to :)

[@filmingyu6623]

ARE THEY NOT TRYING TO SELL THESE CARS??????????????

[@gemdiver]

They know what they got!

[@angli232]

That Cadillac lady don't know what she is talking about, and she constantly talks over you. I wouldn't be dealing with her if I were you!

[@joshuarivera3617]

100k for a Cadillac. Your customer has more money then common sense

[@elliott3991]

my family...oh, they are all lawyers....you need the "friends and family sale" that applies to all

[@salteabutwhy2939]

Jesus christ, it's insane to see how slimey these damn dealers continue to be.

[@wyattmassey7060]

Just bought a Tahoe. The amount of dealers advertising employee pricing but later needing a gm code was stupid.

[@truth0149]

Had a dealer pull B.S. like this . They had Price & Discounts listed online . Then he saidyou have to qualify . Problem is all the Discounts he said i didn't Qualify for were Not listed on their website . It didn't add up , all B.S.

[@treborheminway3814]

I'm out of state, but you keep talking about having to show up in person to discuss pricing. Talk about a hard pass. FNA pal, you either have a price or not, stop trying to fleece people with double talk and hidden fees. Have fun going out of business.

[@Chief_5]

$1,000 off plus $4,900 in add ons.

[@Grey-x2c]

Employee could not afford that

[@bobvoorhees3673]

Exactly the reason I quit the industry I was with one dealer for 28 years and they were fantastic. Life changed and I finished at three other dealers and the games they played with customers and more importantly with their employees was absolutely disgusting.

[@juanirving276]

So having worked at a Chevy dealership heres what happened with the vip manager. She at 1st didn't change her settings from lease to finance so the finace deals weren't showing on her end. Then when you guys were discussing otd prices she had certain add ons (oil changes) that they usually sell you on. The thing with her is she didn't listen to your needs. If she was more focused on your needs she would of made sure it was on finance, and she would of explained the add ons and try to sell you on them. Unless this specific dealer does F&I seprate, she should of discussed all the add ons that were pre added. If she did that correctly and also listened she would of noticed what you were talking about and could of potentially had a sale. They both seemed a bit nervous and too focused on script instead of listening tbh

[@peinorma]

11:24 "But I do know the difference between a Cadillac and a lyriq". Do you... ???🤣🤣

[@kustomchevy27]

I used to work for a dealership when i was 20 . After working for one i never bought new always used private sale with a good history and one owner.. i would see how much the people were getting taken for

[@dave3657]

Well they can call the discount whatever they want. 🤷🏻 But nothings moving, and the year is ending, but they want to move vehicles. 🤪 My mom just got a Military discount on a new furnace, she’s not military, but her brother was, so close enough.

[@pitbull21350]

This is why people don’t trust car dealerships! I purchased both my cars online just like you in 2020 and 2021. For me it’s simple what are you selling the car for! I’ll get my own financing

[@kstokman]

Did you click on the tiny “information” link below the discount ad? It could actually have stipulations.

[@Delivrd]

It does, and we did. It says you must be a GM employee. The whole point is in what world does ANY business advertise their "employee" pricing to anyone other than their employees. Why would they do this? When it reality the price is actually 12k higher.

[@steverollins4690]

Those people make me sick

[@VADiamondbacks]

I wanted to know is it best to discuss my trade before or after I get the OTD price?

[@jeffhickman10]

A close friend bought a $140,000 Escalade two years ago. It’s a beautiful SUV but it’s been one problem after another. If GM is going to charge that ridiculous amount I would expect a quality vehicle. Am I wrong?

[@DankyDankenstein]

Listening to that vocal fry would be too much for me.

[@cathysanchez842]

Tommy, whats a good deal on a Toyota Rav4 Hybrid XSE ? Is it hard to get a good discount since there is low stock.

[@georgemartin1436]

A dealer...lying??? That seems impossible...who's lying now, hmmmm?

[@sully1d]

I'm never buying a new vehicle again

[@michalstelmach4203]

@IGottaSay I did it 4 months ago and bought a Model 3 LR AWD for 45,520 out the door after tax rebate. Few clicks on Friday morning and Monday afternoon was picking up my Tesla. No bs no drama. I was looking for buying a Camry XSE but the price was almost $46k OTD and I was tired of all the games they try to play with me. I’m done with dealers.

[@MrJBZY70]

This lady did not just say “ I don’t work GM! I work for caddy😂”

[@ninerbug]

They don't know anything it's on the website haha

[@dolfo3]

I'm having Trouble finding and negotiating the 2025 GR86 Hakone, I'm very sad and it's so tough to find and get!

[@larrysantacrose]

Her vocal fry gets annoying

[@As_A________Commenter]

*All vocal fry gets annoying -there, fixed it for ya

[@mts982]

so they have pricing online that is reflective of only a certain discount? gotta be illegal.

[@robcampbell6099]

Lol, this dealer is a complete Joke... Tomi call up here to a Canadian dealer.. we are purchasing a Tahoe right now and are using the employee discount(neother ofnus are GM employees or have fmaily)and have verified with the dealer its for EVERYONE. he also mentioned the Escalades are $12000k off !! add your American dollar purchasing power

[@AshleytheAutoAdvocate]

Love your videos! 🚙💰🤑

[@Delivrd]

Thank you!

[@lightning9279]

The GM list of eligible is so small they shouldn't even mention it. I agree, bait and switch.

[@workoutwithrob1700]

Tomi missed out on a great deal unfortunately. I'd assume this is one of those GM dealers in Michigan that has codes available from many people that they give a kickback to when they use their employee codes. They can't discuss it over the phone with him because its "illegal" to sell these codes to others. But they can certainly tell him in person, if he'd just go into the dealership (which the dealership tried to convey to him). There's a reason so many of us go to Michigan to buy our GM cars lol, it's worth the drive.

[@Delivrd]

It is against their dealer agreement to sell codes yes, and if dealership is ACTUALLY doing this they will lose their license real quick

[@marcspector1253]

Now that's a lotta fertilizer....... 💩

[@shakey2634]

What is Conquest?

[@wildwilly1989]

Unclear if you have a Costco membership or not

[@rickwatford4573]

These word tracks that the sales people have to use is so cringe. These GM’s of dealerships are so stuck in the past. I sold cars for years and they’re all the same no matter where you go.

[@mitchkiernan7724]

The knowledge makes absolute no sense at all to put that discount on the site to turn around and see it is for family members of employees only 🙃

[@dgdg9582]

Rip off prices!!

[@Lozk55]

Well now you see what we are against here in MI. They advertise lowest price available but won’t honor it. And I love she said she didn’t work for GM, she works for Cadillac? Is she dishonest or just stupid? Probably both.

[@johnshaddick6858]

Tomi, has proven that dealships are still scum. They all deserve to go belly up. The prices on any car or truck, of any make and model, are completely nuts. Every car or truck manufacturer should drop their MSRP by 50%. Even at this, they are not worth the money, since there are so many recalls on every brand. The deale s still don't get, now it is the buyers market. So dealerships can not rip off the customer anymore, but they will try.

[@leonardyoung6821]

Escalade is pretty much always going to be above MSRP.

[@Delivrd]

Im well below on the 24s right now

[@h2oburke]

I hope this lady gets to listen to herself eventually. Holy crap 🥴

[@kccustom1]

Sounds like they have an endless line of suckers so they didn't want to give away any bait.

[@Dub-ro9tk]

Horrible humans.

[@Budgetfishing530]

They will do anything to get back to msrp jeep dealers are the worst with it

[@jcberb]

Seems to be a delay in the communication.

[@Admiral_tintin]

Wtf that employs discount is for everyone not just them. Hence it is a discount. What a crock, I would be gone and off to another place.

[@cansore]

3 stooges selling Cadillacs

[@thetruthyes]

These dealers acting like they never sell cars, and they never have a good concrete answer for you. these people sell cars everyday,, they should know what they can or can't do, stop paying this stupid games, makes you look dumb.

[@johnhopkins8504]

You do what your add stated

[@ernestogalvan143]

They got this turd figured. Glad dealerships are not dealing with him. Punk over the phone and that’s it.

[@jefffff1007]

The old bait and switch!

[@leearnold0911]

Her vocal fry drives me INSANE

[@mapache2185]

Lmao bro noooooo the more I watch this shit show the more I just want to lease a Tesla and get this shit over with. I would need to go with a lawyer so I wouldn’t lose my shit at a dealership

[@charlieshamburgers]

He’s talking about others being shady, really???

[@augustusoakes4671]

yeah - you earned your money on this. what a $h%t show !

[@Delivrd]

LOL and I didn't even get this deal done. I had to go to the other dealership.

[@doonie5396]

what a freakin hassle. dumb sales staff...

[@nrml1]

Bro you gotta do longer vids

[@ajwysopal]

He does..... Check on his channel under the "live" section and you'll see them 😊

[@toddrunyon]

Unless the dealer changed their ad after this phone call, the explanation for "employee pricing" is actually on the website for that vehicle. It may not be very obvious but it is there.

[@Delivrd]

It is, but there is only a small portion of people who qualify for this pricing. Yet they advertise it in a way that everyone would get employee pricing. The fine print shouldn't change a price by 15k.

[@bored2323]

For a guy who wants a deal your extremely smug and douchey

[@Veterans-e2c]

Next 😂. Nothing but BS with these clowns 🤡

[@roycemartin9068]

2 people talking at the same time drives me nuts. Both you and the lady Corey are rambling on at the same time.

[@jkmarshall3553]

Ummmm, welcome to the last century of reality! Duuhhrrrrrr!!!!

[@thomasreyes2857]

There's no such thing as negotiation these days you either go in there and pay the price or you don't it's that simple😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Delivrd]

This is not true lol

[@andrewshenton6541]

Oh my god 2 poeple talking at the same time,someone shut-up!!!!!

[@stevenrandolph1654]

Her vocal fry was so cringe

[@MikeStierwalt]

Stealerships

[@MC.4]

How did you stay on the line with Corey for so long? That horrendous croaky vocal fry makes the video unwatchable.