Shaffer Lectures 3 of 3 - Christ Against the Jews

For the first time since Bart's delivery between October 12-14, 2004, the three part lecture from the Yale University Convocation 2004 has been retrieved from Yale's video archives, and edited for Bart's readers. Almost three hours of lectures include, "Christ Come in the Flesh," "Christ The Divine Man," and "Christ Against the Jews." The central theme of the Kent Shaffer Lectures was "Christ in the Early Christian Tradition: Texts Disputed and Apocryphal." Bart outlined the primary ways in which early Christian groups tried to restrict readings of the ancient Christian manuscripts to suit their own purposes.
Video discussed on Bart Ehrman's Foundation Blog: ehrmanblog.org/...
Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies. A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude.
Copyright © Bart D. Ehrman and Yale University. All Rights Reserved. Unauthorized use, re-posting and/or duplication of this video without express and written permission from Bart D. Ehrman and Yale University is strictly prohibited. Special thanks to Campbell Harmon and the Media Center at Yale University, for converting the archived VHS footage to 720 x 540 digital for editing to 720p.

[@CK-dz8fo]

incredible lecture!! i respect his work! Thank you, Dr. Ehrman.

[@threemonkeys5086]

Great lecture as usual! The numerous interpretations of the stories of Jesus in early Christianity should shake the foundations of belief of any rational Christian.

[@apocryphalmusings7535]

Bart D. Ehrman is truly my hero.

[@stuartwest8836]

Apocryphal Musings Ah,thats y'problem

[@riptorn311]

Mr. Ehrman, I could listen to you reading a phone book. Great stuff.

[@cristianfcao]

I would love to see the Q&A section of these lectures, if there was one. Great stuff, as always with Ehrman.

[@go222it8]

simple logic, thats all it takes. good job sir

[@48acar19]

In the end it is a "hidden blessing" the fact that plenty of top atheists of today used to be Fundamentalist Christian preachers, because they have perfected during many years of practice their oratorical skills!!!!! LOL 20 or 30 years ago I would have hated them for preaching religion, but today they are better-skilled at convincing the people that the opposite of religion is true!

[@shaunmccoy5840]

Love this stuff!

[@benrollins1]

Great lecture series! Great scholarship! Though as for the comments, “Let his blood be upon us and our children” of Matthew 27:25, and “Away with this man, and release for us Barabbas” of Luke 23:18...does this not feel like a veiled reenactment of the Feast of Atonement with Pilate playing the role of the high priest? The Scriptures are full of instances referring to Jesus as the Passover Lamb. Why not also the two goats of Atonement? Which goat should we kill, and which should we send away? One is for the sprinkling of blood on the people “Let his blood be upon us.” The other becomes the scapegoat, sent off into the wildness, and generally pushed off a cliff, lest it return with the sins that had been placed upon it. Is this not precisely what the crowd also sought to do to Jesus in Luke 4:29...?? “...and they got up and drove Him out of the city, and led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city had been built, in order to throw Him down the cliff.“ As pointed out, obviously the text of Luke can be read in very different ways!

[@MrThundermouth]

Someone uttered the words "I am the true wine" That of the old. If the true wine is Joy then the new wine is The Desires of the world which may corrupt the body and mix with joy like bad salt. Just my reflection...

[@martinchivers7341]

It would be so informative and just as interesting if Prof. Ehrman approaches this same topic, not from a literary content approach as he did in this lecture, but as a critical historian employing the criteria of Independent Attestation, Dissimilarity and Contextual Credibility. The method he used later in his course The New Testament.

[@sidahmedazed]

Je comprends mal l'anglais, mais je suis sûr que ce monsieur est en train de dire des choses bien pour l'humanité

[@FreemanPresson]

sidahmed azed Bien sûr!

[@apm77]

Of course, many modern Christians interpret the crowd calling for the death of Jesus as representing the whole of humanity, and see Christ's forgiveness as the whole point. According to this view, what prevents humanity from having a proper relationship with God is (at least in part) lack of confidence in God's mercy, so Jesus came to prove that God will forgive us even if we crucify him. However, this is a modern reanalysis (in part a reaction to the horrors of antisemitism) and there are several reasons why it could not possibly be the interpretation intended by the original authors.

[@hzoonka4203]

Just wondering if the Jews looking for a earthly King/Messiah to come.This would make more sense!Ps-only my opinion.

[@LuciferEgyptianOsiris]

Christ was never against jews or was the word in by any définition available

[@drresistance3139]

All this analysis of inconsistencies and metaphorical meanings. All of this seems to make more sense if Jesus was simply a fictional character.

[@p_a_r_a_b_e_l_l_u_m_]

+Dr Resistance He was not fictional, only too many fictions were fabricated about him.

[@sidahmedazed]

MrFrotier/: Dans des moments de colère, oui on se prend parfois pour un dieu

[@DeLarger]

These lectures are like crack.

[@petert.lucambo5012]

I never used crack, but I see the point

[@MitzvosGolem1]

he and apostles were Jews....so absurd

[@mikalrahman7102]

This societal principal - that revolutionary, new ideas, are met with resistance by those in power. Moses. Noah, Jesus , Muhammad, Galileo. Pasteur, Emerson - list goes on and on. Those messengers or prophets from God - God helps them in subtle but yet powerful ways. Jesus saved thru dreams in youth. He prays to be saved in Garden Gethsemane, Pilates wife warns her husband that he is innocent. Jesus taken down quickly from the Cross. When he is seen 3 days later with his wounds - is it not more likely that he survived this ordeal ? God saved him / raised his early suffering followers, He did not say that He was God. and see what God ( Rome ) did to the evil leaders of that city who sought to wipe him Out. This logical explaination is from Ahmadiyya Islam. Peace.