BTS (방탄소년단) 1st time Watching - Cypher 4 [Live] Shakes - P Reacts

This was for sure not my favorite of the 4 Cyphers. I had its ups and downs for me still good just did not hit as hard as the last 3 for me. Let me know in the comments if you agree or disagree.
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[@Random-qi3vv]

Exactly. Eminem was an inspiration for theses guys. They made a song called HIP HOP LOVER talking about their love for the goats and their idols. You’ll be surprised how much they know about hip hop. Please react to that. The song might be a bit emotional for hip hop lovers and rappers.

[@Shakes-P]

😯😯😯 Cant wait to get to that 1!!!

[@babyc3482]

Yes as a b girl this song is fire for my hip hop soul, and it makes me so proud of them and appreciate there mad respect for hip hop and those who came before them.

[@sc33h3o3]

@@Shakes-P Didn't you mention you would be doing dkdktv Ugh Explained after you finished the Cyphers? :)

[@Shakes-P]

@@sc33h3o3 I will be getting into a lot now lol. I might be dedicating a day on this Channel for 4-6 BTS only reactions!

[@shannonslutzky4754]

Outro-tear live. Outro-tear live. Outro tear live. That’s it. That’s the next one. And imo the best rapline song that I’ve been lucky enough to see in person. And the live version is just superior to the studio version

[@Shakes-P]

Added to the list 🙂🙂

[@johnnyblaze1098]

There's a reason why they incorporated the mumble rap into Cypher 4 and the autotuning (you don't hear it in the live show). They're mocking it.

[@Shakes-P]

Ahh ok, Well that makes a lot more sense now. Thank you for pointing this out!

[@simply-fiona]

Suga did that in Daechwita as well. Considering these cyphers are their responses to those mumble rappers who has hated and said awful things about them, it’s quite sarcastic and funny too, in particular if you read Korean lyrics. They are so smart! 💜😁

[@ericweinman9447]

I think the lyrical intentionality of the RM section is an element. Bae has two meanings. Firstly, elders or sunbae who in SK are expected to receive respect. Secondly baby which in romantic relationships is a diminutive which means I am a source of your support and you need me much like an infant needs a mother. RM lists a series of putdowns elders had dissed him with punctuating each one mockingly with the word bae. ARMY which is a big part of the reason BTS weathered a disproportionate number of early hardships gets to participate in the dissing by repetitively yelling out the word bae along with RM. The verse end with a mocking you know my name because I am successful. So yes the musical formula is much easier, but RM intends it to be so knowing frequent repetition inspires fan involvement. Keep in mind Picasso inked many simple works as artistic expressions because he had the cred as a full-fledged artist. Mumble rappers who haven't shown their wherewithal are lame because they lack credentials as rappers. Real rappers to me once they have shown their skills to be worthy should not be lumped in with lame rappers because they have artistic reason for treading outside the lanes which established them as talented.

[@Shakes-P]

Very cool info for sure. Still not something or a flow for a cypher. But makes sense for sure.

[@heathernile4700]

Well said💜

[@tessb3597]

Great reaction! It's funny you mentioned the mumble rap part, they are actually mocking mumble rappers there lol.

[@Shakes-P]

Thank god haha, Not a cypher vibe but for sure makes more sense now!

[@candicesmith-mackenzie6303]

Found you when you popped up in my feed for BTS. Love your name. I am a classically trained Shakespearean actress. People have long wondered about my love of certain types of rappers. They are modern day Shakespeares. If you haven't seen it there is a Ted talk about Shakespeare and rap and those scholars in the audience can't tell if it's Tupac or Shakespeare. 🤣 One of the main reasons I love BTS is not only the onomatopoeia but the actual word play and poetry. Keep it up 😘💜

[@shivangiagrawal2665]

Army appreciate honesty more than anything. It just seals the deal for us. As long as someone explains the reasons for it because then at least there is a discourse to talk about. I agree with you on the technical standpoint, you expect them to go hard considering the progression last 3, but they went mellow. Suga went hard though. Honestly not the first time with them. They just won't give you what you expect. 😅 Although they called it a cypher, it does not give a cypher vibe. Its better to call it a track. Its a whole vibe though. From what I've learned, they were kicking off their love yourself movement hence this track came on. Also at this point they became confident enough to not have to prove themselves because of the whole self love thing which is a HUGE portion of BTS's discography. Hope this helps. 😅

[@Shakes-P]

Haha for sure def not a cypher vibe and a track vibe. But thoooose crowds are super insane!!!

[@shivangiagrawal2665]

@@Shakes-P yep the synergy is always insane at bts concerts. I will also say my opinion that while they didn't go hard on this one, I kinda f with this heavy. 😅

[@Shakes-P]

@@shivangiagrawal2665 see now knowing it was a dis to Mumble rappers. I think I will break my rule of not reacting and watching the track version of Cypher 4 so I can hear it clearer and read the subs more carefully!

[@shivangiagrawal2665]

@@Shakes-P I'm no expert on hiphop, but I can bet everything that BTS will never do mumble rap. They have shown their distaste to it many times in their songs. Maybe he did a generic easy flow. That I could believe. 😅 Also I don't speak korean so can't say how clear his syllables were. If it was a dis, its a different story.

[@juliashuddiqy5144]

Suga always killing the cyphers 🔥💜🥰🤩😍

[@Shakes-P]

Crazy right

[@wildlotus4339]

It is a lay back time for them. They have been on the top.

[@MariaChavez-ey5sr]

The live energy they build with a self affirmation getting them screaming “I love myself” is crazy for me.

[@Random-qi3vv]

I agree with your review. They hate mumble rap. They incorporate that as a diss for the mumble rappers. The audio versions a lot more clearer. Cypher 4s my least favorite too. Out of the modern guys in the west ,I only listen to Logic. These days I listen mostly to Korean and Indian rappers when it comes to rap. About our guys in BTS, j hopes more of the guys that rides the beat and constantly switches flows(he was a former street dancer,and he uses that rhythm ,muscle memory to get with the flow). Please react to “Agust D” by Suga, Joke by RM, Change by RM ft Wale, …..and if you are open to vocalist,the 4 vocalists in BTS are monster talented as well. But I understand if you do only the rapline☺️. ( sorry for the long comment)

[@Shakes-P]

Noooo I want the other Genres they cover to be honest. I will react to the other hip hop tracks. But I want to dig more into their diversity A LOT!

[@blackcappedchickadee8469]

the criticism is totally fair imo. Some fans are incapable of objective criticism towards their favorite artists. Thank you for the reaction, I appreciate your honesty 💜

[@Shakes-P]

Now that i have completed the 4 cyphers, i am really looking forward to the other genres of music they cover!

[@sandydebord8153]

I appreciate your honest reaction. For me, I really like Cypher 4 because I like the message. In general, the older the song/track, the harder the rap. As they’ve gotten older, their style and messages have also matured. They are all great rappers no matter what criteria you’re judging them against. The newer rap songs are no longer about just dissing their haters. Listen to Respect, Dis-ease, People, Moonlight, Shadow, Persona, Ego (and the list goes on and on) for a more well-rounded look at the rap line. For the harder stuff, go for RM’s Do You and Joke or Suga’s (aka Agust D) self-titled Agust D, Give it to me or The Last. That’s not a comprehensive list, but it’s a start. BTS has over 250 songs/tracks in their catalog and they are working on new stuff right now. Oh, and I agree with others who have suggested Hip Hop Lover!

[@gelluz460]

Now you understand why BTS and ARMY have this special bond right? It is the unlimited transfer of positive energy!

[@Shakes-P]

They r super lit!!!

[@sarahy1680]

I agree that as a stand-alone, Cypher 4 doesn't hit like the first three. But when they do all four together as a live medley (one taking a single verse from 1, another from 2, another from 3, then all of them doing 4), you get this amazing cycle of their evolution and skills along with the screaming crowd -- that's when Cypher 4 shines. I saw a comment once that characterized Cypher 4 as RM and J-Hope saying "ah, I'm not going to waste my time and energy on haters anymore" and Suga going "...actually, I've got a few more words for them" and it makes me laugh whenever I hear it performed!

[@WilmaWalma]

Oooh you really taught me something new today! This Cypher has always been my favorite, and I didn't fully understand why I'm such a fan of this one but not as much the first 3. It makes so much sense what you said, the explanation why you like the other 3 better. We are like the opposite of each other, and now I finally can put into words the difference between them. I'm subscribing!

[@Shakes-P]

🙂🙂🙂 Thank you WilmaWalma! Super appreciate it. I always will react on a technical aspect. Not always understanding the artists writing perspectives of course. Glad you enjoyed! 🙂🙂

[@kirazalea5234]

I don't know how many of these have already been suggested, or even if they'll be your style, but if you were looking for some other genres/styles they've done, here's a few! Classical - Black Swan (Orchestral Version) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oICXqamPrt2XsKs [the description on this lyric video also includes some references they made in this song to their past works, so that can be good for context if you'd like!] Neo Soul - Intro: Singularity kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmnRoXd9Z9qfgbM [don't forget to turn on captions for the lyrics! A lot of people hear it and think it's a very sultry song, and it is intentionally done that way, but the actual meaning of the song is much deeper] Latin Pop - Airplane pt.2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaCvhouJpNSDnLs EDM - Save Me kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYvNpZKpdpeYqdE Rock inspired - Dionysus kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57Shn1pgdySirM [unfortunately that performance doesn't have English subtitles, so I definitely recommend looking at those separately (Doolset Bangtan is a great tool for that in general since they also explain cultural references and wordplay that might be missed otherwise doolsetbangtan.wordpress.com/2019/04/13/dionysus/ ), but in short, the song compares art and music to alcohol (which sound similar in Korean), and uses that as a way of exploring their own passion for music Baroque Pop/RnB - Lie kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5q4hommpN6mh68 [this is also one of their songs that's in 3/4 time, rather than 4/4!] Funk - Boyz With Fun kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5y5Z2atrqh_ndE Lofi Jazz/RnB - 134043 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5Kmk4Cdq7eolac Tropical inspired - Go Go kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGfKq5qMZst1rsk [while the lyrics for this, if you're not paying close attention, may seem very repetitive and shallow, that's intentional and the song is actually a critique on the economic anxiety faced by many people in their generation, as well as the view many have of this generation (ie that they're lazy, that they always blow all their money on dumb shit and that's why they can't buy a house, etc.] Moombahton [which is kind of like... Tropical+Reggae+Trap?] - Blood Sweat & Tears kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2jSYYilfLGiiK8 [I linked a performance rather than the music video because the video for this song includes an interlude section, and I wasn't sure if you'd rather see that or just the song as it appears on the album, but the video is also incredible and very much worth your time if you don't mind the added section! Here's the link to the MV just in case kzbin.info/www/bejne/np6oapljiaqoqsU ] Ballad - The Truth Untold kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnjPYnRpe5KXe68 I'm gonna be honest, I don't know what genre this one is but sonically it's very interesting, both the instrumentation and the vocals. It has a pretty nice bassline with what sounds like an actual bass guitar, as opposed to synth (though I could be wrong), and includes a brass section at some parts. It also sounds WAY different from Cypher 3, even thought they were both on the same album Embarrassed/Blanket Kick kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4a8f3iBfNijecU I also don't know what genre this one would be, but it's incredibly atmospheric and is again a very different sound than much of their other works Louder Than Bombs kzbin.info/www/bejne/babZoZ9sfLV2lZo

[@Shakes-P]

Yesssss!!! I had to complete the cypher series but am really looking forward for these suggestions A LOT MORE thb! Thank you!

[@kirazalea5234]

@@Shakes-P Happy to help! I hope you enjoy them!

[@LMBOatU]

That’s crazy that you said they don’t look like rappers. I think in America a lot of ppl spend more time trying to LOOK like they’re rappers than actually becoming GOOD rappers. I’ll take J-Hope, RM, & Suga fashion plus solid bars over these other posers any day!

[@Shakes-P]

Fax 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@DDandME]

무플보다 악플이 좋다는 가사를 정확한 발음으로 말할때 뜨거운 정의를 느꼈습니다😬🥳💜 깨끗하게 정화된 랩으로 사랑을 말하는 사이퍼 1 2 3 4👊💜✌ 힙합 도서관 입니다💯💢💜💜 진심으로 존경합니다 BTS!!!!

[@erikoenglish1651]

I agree 💯 with you. I did subscribe your channel because your honest reaction. I can't wait to see Cypher melody live performance. Thank you again 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@Shakes-P]

Thank you! Honestly really looking forward to getting into a few of the other Genres they cover before digging into more of their hip hop. But regardless more BTS coming!

[@erikoenglish1651]

@@Shakes-P Thank you

[@Koakoa45]

A LITTLE KNOWN FACT: EVERY SONG BEFORE SUGA RAPS YOU HEAR "SUGA" IN THE BACKGROUND! He is always Announced! Sometimes it is hard to hear but it is always there.

[@calicocat214]

SUGA is fire as always🔥

[@Shakes-P]

Right!!!

[@californianinkansas]

Yay! Another BTS reaction! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! 💜

[@jessm8055]

With your comments about crowd participation, you would probably get a kick out of seeing the videos about the best fanchants. My favorite is always the B-army (Brazilian ARMY) fanchant compilation. I'd love to see you react to that as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppaxkH9-q9KUraM As for another music reaction to check out, please check out Agust D "The Last" there is no live version. But it's incredible! It would also be cool to see you check out more of the vocal lines songs as well if you have any interest there too! Love the reactions to the Cyphers!! 💜💜

[@RistiKayen]

I was coming here to recommend Hip Hop Lover (sometimes translated as Hip Hop Phile) as I think you will appreciate the history they know/pay respect to in that song. One of the themes of the Cypher series is BTS basically proving/saying to the haters "don't forget that we can do this on top of everything else that we also do". This comes in another line of an Agust D song where he says "you fried rappers should be glad I'm an idol" meaning, you should be glad I don't do this sort of thing full time, or you'd never be able to touch me. By this point in their career, from my understanding, BTS were starting to feel like... maybe they didn't have to keep proving themselves to the haters anymore. Maybe they could just be them, which includes yes being hardcore hip hop rappers who can rhyme their way around anyone in the industry, but also includes being musical geniuses who use different genres the way most people use different instruments (only most musicians can't play as many instruments as BTS can play genres). That's not to say they ever forgot who they are or put the hip hop that runs through their blood aside - the song UGH is from their last full length album (in 2019) and goes as hard as any of the Cyphers, and the song Dis-Ease which was on their 2020 album is an old school hip hop track that will have you howling whenever you get a chance to listen to it. That's not even mentioning D2, which Suga/Agust D released in May of 2019. But before you listen to those, listen to Hip Hop Lover.

[@Shakes-P]

Awesome! Will do thank you!

[@erikoenglish1651]

My favorite Agust D aka Suga's song is So far away ft Suran from his the first mixtape 2016

[@JOELMAMUNIZ97]

CYPHER 4🔥🔥💜💜💜💜

[@angelicar2901]

Yes, the Cypher live!!!!

[@elizabethbrown5065]

Thanks for the reaction. But the cypher medley live is really good and amazing. You should react to that one instead.

[@elizabethbrown5065]

Please, react to the cypher medley live. I think you would enjoyed that more.

[@sovo-7]

I appreciate the honest reactions and comments! For me I dont listen to rap much and this was actually my favourite out of the cyphers - but it may be because it was more like a track and not a cypher (I didnt even know what a cypher was before interacting with BTS lol). Ill be looking forward to your other reactions - Ill list some BTS and other song suggestions that are on my favourites list: BTS - On Kinetic Manifesto (Music video is a must watch) BTS - Airplane pt 2 (Latin hip pop vibes) RM - Trivia Love (I love the lyrics for this) J-Hope - Daydream Suga - Girl of My Dreams (With Juice Wrld) Jimin - Serendipity (beautiful ballad) V - Stigma (such a soulful song) Jungkook - Still With You Jin - Awake Rap Line - Ddaeng (I recommend watching dkdktv's explanation of this after because the translations doesn't give the depth to the lyricism of the song) - UGH! (I appreciate the message of this song describing the emotion of anger) Vocal Line - 0:00 (Zero O'Clock) Sub Group with V and J Hope - Brand New Day ft Zara Larsson (gives me Caribbean vibes for some reason) Other Songs: What's the Plan - Jim Swim (a KZbinr I found recently) Martini Blue - DPR Live (A Korean rapper) Switch it Up - Protoje and Koffee (Jamaican reggae rap artistes) Cool As The Breeze - Chronixx (Jamaican reggae artiste)

[@Shakes-P]

Thank you for this!!!

[@sovo-7]

@@Shakes-P no problem! I just found out Koffee released a song today called Pull Up too. She’s an amazing Jamaican artiste. Would love to see you reacting to her songs

[@rosy_1986]

Love your realness 💜

[@Shakes-P]

🙂🙂 Thank you Rosy!!!

[@TeeAichTee]

correct, this is the least cypher-like of the cyphers. it was at the point that they were tired of wasting energy and giving attention to haters so they switched it up, basically saying 'i love myself too much to spend my time on your ish, perhaps you should love yourself too' and then with this they ended the cypher series. it was kind of a boss ass move. the haters were at a loss

[@Shakes-P]

Brrrraaaappp that is super lit! Total boss move! I love it.

[@Robin-sz2ku]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉😊

[@OLee1ofMe]

You have no idea what this song does to ARMY. Shit, my hearts beating just watching you, watch them

[@Shakes-P]

🙂🙂🙂

[@Camasuam]

You can react to: Ugh Ddaeng The Last Etc...

[@angelicar2901]

You want hard rapping? React to RM's Monster.

[@Shakes-P]

Added to the list!!!! But will check out the other Genres they cover 1st!

[@juliashuddiqy5144]

I like your reactions 😍 please check cypher medley live.. Outro tears live 💜🙏🏻

[@reneezemlock7880]

... You know how Eminem makes fun of mumble rappers by occasionally copying them... yeah... they are MOCKING mumble rappers; they are copying the mumble cadence, but his actual diction is fine, just chopped for cadence. Also... bars don't have to be delivered fast in order be hard hitting.

[@Shakes-P]

No completely agree out side of a cypher and for a track lol. A cypher is hard hitting. A cypher is typically and technically best on best!

[@reneezemlock7880]

@@Shakes-P Killshot was an actual diss track and is on the tamer side of delivery for Em. The BARS hit hard, but it's not like he was "screaming at the mic". :p

[@Shakes-P]

@@reneezemlock7880 Not sure the point you are trying to make here lol. I am a rapper in the industry for over 25 years, have a podcast where I interview chart topping artists weekly. We agree i think lol. Cypher 1 & 3 were my favorites!.

[@reneezemlock7880]

@@Shakes-P Sorry. I'm not trying to sound argumentative -_-" I hate mumble rap as well so I guess I just don't understand how you could refer to J-Hope's verse as mumble *shrugs* I also really like the more laid back way RM rapped in the beginning and it sounded like your opinion was that a cypher can't be laid back at all... which I personally don't agree with. That's all. Obviously tastes are different and I DO appreciate you telling how you honestly feel. Like I said, not trying to be confrontational or dismissive, just stating a difference of opinion. I look forward to your next reaction and if you haven't heard them yet, "Hip Hop Lover" and "Born Singer" are definitely ones to check out. :)

[@SilverFang95]

@@Shakes-P Just because you have accolades, doesn't mean you are right. Humble yourself.

[@brayonne1755]

If I'm reading you right I think you'd really like Ddaeng. Cypher 4 isn't my favorite either! You should do outro tear, and read about it at the beginning of the reaction so you have some context about it. Keep keeping it 100! Much love from Canada 💜

[@Shakes-P]

Thank you kindly!! I live in the Philippines but was born amd raised in Toronto!

[@brayonne1755]

@@Shakes-P Wow! I totally thought you were a New Yorker lol (I hope that's not an insult!? definitely not meant as one). I'm in Montreal 😊 Fun fact if you like this stuff, apparently one of V's grandmothers is Philippino. Try Ddaeng, really hot somehow, and outro tear live, it grabs you by the guts even if you don't know what they're talking about, J-Hope's verse kills me. There's a video where RM and Suga explain it at the end, I'll go find the link and bring it back 👍💜 Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmevXqOio6mXhKs

[@Shakes-P]

@@brayonne1755 Amazing, Thank you for this!!!

[@eliz9810]

No hate I respect your thoughts about jhope's part but even if it is "mumble rap" or whatever, you have to look at his unique voice his stage present the lyrics the flow and the way he literally owns and delivers it perfectly. It's not something you can call too easy and there is absolutely no one who could've rap that part better than him.

[@Shakes-P]

Im not hating i am a fan ans have since reacted to BTS many times since, but it is SUPER easy and incredibly generic as a rapper of over 20+ years i am actually speaking from experience. When I reacted to this though I was also unaware it was essentially a diss too Mumble rappers which I thought was cool afterwards.

[@megapuspitap]

React to micdrop steve aoki remix please

[@Shakes-P]

100%!!

[@bee12117]

So you are not intrested in vocal line at all?

[@Shakes-P]

100% I am, i just wanted to complete tje cyphers 1st! I am more interested in those tbh!

[@jonzgurl4ever]

Old Em was great...New Em...nah...they steam roll over him. Sorry but Em is old news and fell off...fight me They are 100% better than ANYTHING we have over here...by far Yea Suga owned this one too. He is the GOAT IMO...sorry not sorry You were already explained that they in no way went generic but they were pretty much making fun of those terrible ass mumble rappers so no point in going over it again and again.

[@deblibra6884]

Don't put them in your box... you're too damn new and haven't even scratch the surface. Duh...

[@Shakes-P]

As an artist in the industry for over 25 years, Record label owner, Artist manager. Playing multiple instruments, Have family members who are world class musicians song writers and so on. I am offering up a balanced detailed un bias professional opinion. At 0 point did I criticize, hate or throw shade. I also said multiple times in the reaction your opinion does not have to match mine. I also will not let my fandom cloud my judgment of what I think is good, average or great. I dont put anyone in a box. This is a REACTION it is meant for me to offer up my opinion.... You listen to an album.. your not supposed to like every song on it. shaking my head.

[@shivangiagrawal2665]

Why are you so rude damn....

[@Shakes-P]

@@shivangiagrawal2665 me ?? 😯

[@shivangiagrawal2665]

@@Shakes-P no this commentor 😅

[@Shakes-P]

@@shivangiagrawal2665 😂🤣😂 😉😉