Shameless' Emma Kenney Says Emmy Rossum's Exit Made Set Feel 'More Positive'

Emma Kenney is getting candid about her former ‘Shameless’ co-star, Emmy Rossum. During an interview with Alex Cooper on Spotify’s ‘Call Her Daddy’ podcast, Kenney opened up about the tension she says she felt working with Rossum. Kenney also reveals how she felt when the actress left the show after nine seasons.
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[@zechariah8608]

I’m not hating on her opinion but Emmy carried the show, she was most definitely the glue. It’s sad how they didn’t respect enough to pay her what she was worth. The show was about family and when she left it had a big effect, the rating took a hit

[@agustingarcia9271]

Frank was the show . She couldn’t get over it

[@Nobody-vf2qv]

@@agustingarcia9271 frank was really the show and Fiona the show literally dropped in views when she left

[@wilson8979]

Exactly the truth

[@BlueJayFromDa9]

She definitely did….her and Bill carried the show. After she left the show it definitely felt like it was missing a chunk of it

[@KIINGMARLY]

She didn’t carry the show 😂 I didn’t even notice she was gone in the last season.

[@Gaelldiazz]

Honestly I was so sad after Fiona left, but Fiona was stuck in this sad cycle for about three seasons where she’d get her shit together than fall apart and she felt stuck.

[@MsBigact]

Thats how I feel about the whole show. Like its good and everything but it kept doing the same thing and gets boring after a while tbh

[@babiegat]

That's life tho.

[@Ru_90]

My little brother told me once that this show IS ABOUT them getting their shit together, just to have it fall apart again. So the shows about this family that can’t keep their shit together.

[@Ru_90]

@@lgee8383 that sucks, I’ve been recently diving into different shows on different platforms. It’s cause some of these shows don’t really have a story line… What shows are you watching right now?

[@ilean7499]

@@Ru_90 more broadly it can be seen a being about the cycle of poverty and the generational trauma it causes and how people like the Gallaghers get stuck when they grow up in a situation like they did. Same patterns, same destructive coping mechanisms, surrounded by people doing bad things to get out of bad situations or just to feel a little relief from everything. Definitely the point of the show wasn’t to have a cliche “happy ending” just the idea that they keep going and are resilient. Fiona was emblematic of the rare one who “breaks the cycle” even if her exit was unintentional

[@nicholasgarrick7546]

I think we can all agree the show went down hill after Rossum left. Rossum kept them employed.

[@DaveyDarko92]

Lollll the show went downhill after season 4.

[@christiandavidgoklasgultom2712]

The show went down hill after Noel Fisher left (let's be real now). And the show was pretty much dead when Rossum left. It was a desperate attempt to bring Noel back at season 10.

[@noamweizmann]

100%

[@noamweizmann]

@Brodan The Bro Of the Skies The show’s ratings PLUMMETED after she left. Go look at their rotten tomatoes ratings.

[@dantan1249]

@Brodan The Bro Of the Skies meh. frank got annoying but yeah she didnt make or break the show.

[@Nyckidd]

“I heard she had a baby” damn so they’re complete strangers now

[@_cup_of_tea]

That's how it goes. They were work family, that's it.

[@Danielle-ii8zc]

That's show bizz

[@honey5623]

@@_cup_of_tea not every work family is like that, tho. Some work families stick together and become a real family.

[@mariem8705]

@@honey5623 yes, a great example is modern family. They all still seem to keep into contact. Especially Sarah, sofia and Jessie. Though they all seem to be a bit distant with Ariel Winters.

[@jesslishman]

@@honey5623 very very unlikely most of the time, especially with american attitude to pretending everyone are friends when in fact they don't

[@Maddie9185]

I Thought it was the perfect time for Fiona to leave because everyone was pretty much an adult and she had raised them and it was time for Fiona to take care of herself and put herself first, so it made sense.

[@nikkijohnson8484]

I agree it wasn’t much more she can do everybody was grown and she really wasn’t needed….I just wished she made a phone call or came back in the last episode to celebrate there marriage

[@fionagallagherapologist5968]

exactly. but it's so fucking sad how everyone invalidates her feelings ugh

[@jemimamcsweeney1301]

Okay but Liam

[@LelaniUnleashed]

Exactly! And even in Rossum’s real life it was just time for her to go. But I honestly stopped watching after she left.

[@Rose_budd]

Exactly

[@tinashe9616]

After Fiona Left. Ian and Mickey Carried the Show.

[@sardemari]

Facts, love them

[@Lana-qt1ni]

Yesss

[@wilson8979]

Truth

[@zara.1212]

hard agree

[@sharonguyton9119]

So says the LGBTQ+ community.

[@joem2130]

One day Emma will understand what Emmy was dealing with and she will look back and regret throwing her under the bus. I've been in Emma's headspace, she was taught to keep quiet and accept bad treatment. It feels like a betrayal to see others stand up for themselves, until you realize the anger is justified. I wish Emma peace, and I hope she realizes she was never competing with Emmy, she was a kid and Emmy was an adult with a huge career. I wish her peace and understanding.

[@Maggie-ey3hv]

Why was Emmy upset ?

[@joem2130]

@@Maggie-ey3hv Emmy was upset because she was a main character along with William H Macy and her pay never increased the whole run of the show while his did. He supported her in eventually asking for more fair pay and he would talk about his support in interviews too. I think but could be wrong that they also asked for equal pay for all leads kind of like Dave Matthews band and friends but I'm not certain. They refused to give her an increase so she left the show. Emma was so young back then that maybe Emmy was pissed off being on set during the fight. I doubt Emma would've had a firm grasp on what was happening because this was her first job and Emmy and Willam H Macy were more experienced.

[@joem2130]

@@Maggie-ey3hv maybe it was awkward for her on set during that time because someone above her was making it weird I don't know. As far as I've seen, the rest of the cast was standing beside Emmy and agreed she should be paid fairly.

[@sneekz07]

@@joem2130 That's not her castmates problem, and she shouldn't have been taking it out on everyone else. Simple.

[@joem2130]

@@sneekz07 that's true but Emma never said she took it out on her or gave details. So she could've been more reserved or quiet

[@anonymousforever88]

she had every right to have that attitude. Emmy carried the show and she wasn’t getting paid what she really deserved.after Fiona left the show got really boring.

[@noamweizmann]

Exactly.

[@endor8witch]

no one has every right to give attitude at work. not happy you weren't paid much? LEAVE. the fact that the network didn't wanna pay her more shows they don't value her. you shouldn't stay when you're not valued. if you choose to stay - don't complain. you made a decision.

[@anonymousforever88]

@@endor8witch still not really fair that the actor of frank got paid more than Emmy. I would be pissed off too. I’m pretty sure u would and probably every sane person.

[@micahjenkins7708]

@@anonymousforever88 yeah but that wasn't the other actors and actresses fault especially when they were so young she was one of the oldest people of set and the kids should've never had to feel like that

[@anonymousforever88]

@@micahjenkins7708 yea but why did she bring it up now? And Emma is also racist, her and Emmy had a huge fight on twitter bc emma was defending a racist person.

[@aloha_oe311]

Some people have different personalities and not everyone has to be friends. Just because you feel the tension toward someone doesn’t mean that person is negative. Not everyone you meet have to be friendly, some people are just there to work.

[@Prince_the_One]

She literally said if Emmy was having a bad day she would make it a bad day for everyone and you're making excuses for her.

[@jaythomson5185]

Yeah bro don't make excuses. None of us really know her but your talking like you know what's going on and like you wanna make an excuse for her cuz your a fan

[@aloha_oe311]

@@Prince_the_One my comment was both for Emmy and Emma. Sometimes we take things way too personal and it isn’t about you but the person itself. And sometimes we act out the way we do without knowing how you are to others, but we have to learn to understand different personalities. Everyone likes to jump on the bandwagon quickly as soon as someone talks bad about another person without hearing both sides and understand both sides..

[@aloha_oe311]

@@jaythomson5185 not a fan. Just an opinion, like how you have one.

[@jaythomson5185]

Mmm i dont know lol

[@moreofawave]

"I have a lot of love for her" after talking smack. Uh huh.

[@COURTNEYVCK]

So if the bitch was mean then so be it

[@owenyoung9915]

I mean… it wasn’t really smack smack. She was just being honest about how she felt. You can still love someone and acknowledge their not so nice times.

[@jaggerkate]

This is really interesting to hear. I’ve been Shameless obsessed for years. It’s my go-to binge show.

[@reelryan5807]

Try the UK version

[@Rachel-wr7re]

@@reelryan5807 Which version do you prefer?

[@targetcrunch3552]

I am to attached to the American version to try out the uk one ,,no hate though

[@mariyahnicolee8658]

fr

[@reelryan5807]

@@Rachel-wr7re I like em both

[@zeroman155]

I'm interested in hearing what the rest of the cast have to say about what Emma said about Emmy Rossum.

[@christinan5382]

I think it says a lot about Emma’s character that she’s the only one coming out bashing Emmy whilst the rest of the cast isn’t chiming in. I guess they don’t want to join Emma and throw Emmy under the bus for absolutely no reason. Emmy never said anything negative about anyone yeah she left it sucked she deserved all the awards for her portrayal of Fiona, but I lost some respect for Emma with this it isn’t necessary to come for someone who isn’t coming for you. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@zeroman155]

@@christinan5382 That's why I want to hear from the rest of the cast. Was this an issue between Emma and Emmy or is there more to this?

[@hair4571]

@@christinan5382 turns out i have debbie character and her actor

[@ryahferg2599]

@@christinan5382 The rest of the cast hasn't publicly "bashed" her but most of them have clearly have dissociated from her

[@IzzyPeralta]

@@TonUryuu actually Lea Michelle didn’t have a good reputation during glee. She was notoriously negative to work with. Actors and production crew has stated this before. There was a reason why she was only getting consistent work with Ryan Murphy and hardly anyone else.

[@thefrug4755]

love how everyone is invalidating someones feelings all because the other person was a good actor and the show focused on their character

[@AngelusHale]

The thing is, you only heard from one side. You don't have any context. We all have bad days, we all act like assholes sometimes. It's human. And in the end Emma clearly cares for Emmy, so... I don't know.

[@beegee5981]

@@AngelusHale that’s the op entire point- we don’t know what happened or what the full story is....so all of these people invalidating to my Emma’s feelings...because Emmy is an ok actor....is weird.

[@AngelusHale]

@@beegee5981 Emmy is not an ok actor, she is a great one. She gave us some incredible performances on that show. I just needed to point that out.

[@thefrug4755]

@@AngelusHale Emmy is an amazing actress but my point is like you said we don’t know what happened behind the scenes and it’s clear Emma has no bad blood with Emmy but she’s simply stating how she felt while Emmy was on the show yet everyone keeps ignoring that al because Emmy is a talented actress and that isn’t right is her being a talented actress an excuse to ignore how her coworkers felt while filming with her or if she was a person who made work difficult no it doesn’t excuse it and so the point still stands no one should invalidate Emma and her experience all because someone’s acting carried the show

[@AngelusHale]

@@thefrug4755 When you're in a really bad place, you're too caught up in your own feelings/thoughts to think about how it can affect others. At the end of the day, this is none of our business, to be honest.

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

I feel like she’s being petty. On one hand she says- “I have a lot of love for her, we’re like sisters” and stuff and then suggests that Emmy was being a diva on set, and had negative energy. Just another actress, throwing shade at who she perceives is her competition.

[@gqlovalova]

She wasn’t being petty but was there some shade thrown? Yeah maybe a little.

[@kelslays]

i mean, if you have a sister then you know you can say both "I love her shes amazing" and "shes a diva" at the same time and not be being petty-- natural sister tings

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

@@kelslays Theyre not sisters. Theyre two actresses working a set together. I think people forget- Hollywood does not function like regular society. Or like a family.

[@gagurl1111]

Two things can be true at once

[@kelslays]

@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis ik that lol, but if ur using the quote where she says they are like sisters and say "but then suggests that emmy was a diva on set", im just saying that is a "sisterly" thing to do, to show your love and hate for you sister and that sisters have built in competition for eachother

[@DM-it1qf]

They were pitted against each other because they were the two sisters in the family. That’s it. And yes it is really weird considering their age gap. If it was a nine-year-old boy and a 22-year-old man they would likely not be pitted against each other so quickly.

[@careforjusticealways]

so true

[@archersmith869]

Emmy rossum was able to keep up with william h. macy in every scene That’s not an easy task even for established actors

[@nayshaprasad8318]

wdym?

[@king_911]

The actor who played Frank aka William h Macy is a pretty huge figure and emmy kept up with that ..acting wise ​@@nayshaprasad8318

[@realSimoneCherie]

Even though I missed her it was one of the best tv exits I can remember. No other character deserves to disappear and never be heard from again more than her. In Fiona’s shoes I’d be GONE and unreachable except maybe by postcard.

[@megn6015]

well said, i 100% agree

[@ndo533]

Facts. Idk y she bothered staying in that house, dealing with everyones shit and still tryna play mom. None of them listened to her anyway . I woulda been gone. They can manage on their own

[@windsofthewest2164]

She didn't even say goodbye to V and Kev, she left before everyone could say goodbye, That exit sucked big time

[@thetruthhurtsyaknow]

Not a good move to say such negative things in the interview. If you're going to leave it as you want to have a relationship with her and you'll miss her... You should have thought about what you were saying about her. Everything you say about another person in the entertainment industry affects their career and likeliness of being hired or desired. You don't want bad blood honey but you just stirred the pot. Maybe you just like making bad blood.

[@hmmm...9594]

Amen🥳

[@kawaiipusheenlovexoxo5352]

Exactly 🙄

[@adreanaheavenholland]

Yeah as soon as I heard her say that on the podcast I knew it would get around.

[@anastasiarose1430]

Lol she can be candid about her experiences, celebrities come for each other necks on the DAILY for BS, literal unimportant things that add nothing. So there's nothing wrong with a young actress speakin on her life experiences. Everything ain't peaches and rainbows, you rlly speaking on how she should move though the industry when you ain't even in it. Like neither of these girls are all that in terms of status its not like there's going to be a huge impact. Besides if this is her experience MORE than likely other cast members can relate to what she is saying. It's just how nobody in the cast of Glee likes that one chick. Again KINDLY stop pretending everything has to be peaches and rainbows. People are allowed to say it how it is. Like sis you ain't in the drama but you wanna add to it all "maybe you like making bad blood" sis THERE'S ALREADY BAD BLOOD DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO. I can NOT with yall

[@jkfynn5977]

Hmmm, she needs attention and obviously using an actress that's more experienced than her, is a good example to use for her own benefits. Keep people's name out of your mouth regardless of your feelings, that story didn't need to be told if there is no bad blood, I'm pretty sure now there is, this is a child talking about a grown woman like they are the same size. Children don't know there damn place in this generation.

[@janellemarieclark2780]

I feel this girl is a double edge sword and I don't like when other actresses down talk each other. Reality is Emmy is a long time actress with lots of great roles behind her. It almost a sense of jealousy and competition on this girl's part.

[@apolloscrow3686]

For real, Rossum was directing episodes towards the end of her stint on this show. She is a hundred times more talented than Kenney, who just sounds bitter and passive aggressive in this interview.

[@leslust]

How the fuck do you know? You know nothing. Do you personally know Emmy rossum to know how she behaves on set or not?! Stop invalidating someone else’s experiences because you like them as an actor/actress. This ain’t it.

[@tymac9127]

@@leslust people just making excuses for Emmy it's sad

[@ninamarise237]

I got the same jealous/competitive vibe! This little girl grew up looking up to her and it's sad that they didn't leave the show super close friends for life.

[@worse0185]

@@apolloscrow3686 how does she sound bitter and passive agressive? she gave her honest experience she had with emmy and wished her well.. y’all are so far up people ass and naive it’s weird.

[@Famegonna9999]

Let’s be honest the show started to go downhill around season six Emmy got out while she still could

[@larissagomes451]

She was probably stressed of carrying the whole show in her back all these years.

[@SunderMun]

True, but wouldn't justify taking it out on one of the youngest cast members.

[@rumblefish9]

Meh, couldn't give a rats ass about Fiona's storylines past S3 or 4.

[@HaiBuddi]

This isn’t bad at all. It’s a casual mention of a family style work situation developing over years. Y’all stop acting like you like your family all the time. I found nothing wrong 😑

[@ktipbomb7888]

Ppl so phony 🙄, the girl kept it real.

[@HaiBuddi]

@@ktipbomb7888 not only that but she didn't drag anyone in the process. She put a realistic perspective that a lot of people can relate to in any work/family style environment. People spend more of their time at work with their colleagues rather then at home especially pre Covid. And imagine the growth and attachment you would have working on a project for years and for Emmy to start as the star and move to production/direction. I'm sure there were days she was a mess to be around lol.

[@AngelusHale]

@@HaiBuddi True. I think it makes her more human. I think you need to be able to put certain things in the right context.

[@reyna7340]

Most smartest comment I've seen lol

[@brih9613]

exactly 👏🏼

[@biancaaustin9555]

She gave her honest opinion of her over all experience. Still love shameless ❤️

[@ChocolateMuffin308]

but it sounded like 'She's like my family but she was so fucking toxic but omg I love her so much!', weird

[@christinan5382]

Yeah very weird there was a lot of shade thrown and for me personally it is not a good look for Emma - Emmy is not bothering anyone lol so this was very unwarranted.

[@tymac9127]

@@christinan5382 not really she spoke her truth

[@automnejoy5308]

​@@tymac9127 Bullshit. No such thing as "her" truth. There's only THE truth. Maybe she's relating her honest experience/perspective (the correct terms to use), but I don't even buy that. She's coming off like a jealous attention-seeker. There was no need for this interview. I don't believe Emmy ever did an interview trashing one of her co-stars like this. She relies on her talent instead.

[@xmissknowitallx7627]

@@automnejoy5308 It was a pod cast, and this was a snippet from it. It was her honest opinion of Emmy, there was some toxic shit there, but she still cares. Doesn’t sound all bad.

[@trollingmermaids]

Say what you want about her as a person but she carried this show for years and its not as good without her. She was the best character.

[@meddeck]

No she was not. Frank was.

[@trollingmermaids]

@@meddeck lmao good joke.

[@BIGCHIEFR.]

Bro imo I thought fiona was the worst character outside of frank, but no beef with the actresses if anything she nailed the part but like I said her character was just so awful and annoying

[@xariyahmitchell3448]

@@meddeck Frank was definitely not the best character a good character but wasn’t the best 😭

[@xariyahmitchell3448]

@@BIGCHIEFR. really I felt like Debbie had to be the worst character imo

[@csco8586]

As a child performer, I completely understand where she is coming from. At a certain age, your female peers will start to treat you like competition. They will subtly start to behave differently in little ways, and you will genuinely have no idea why. As a child you will not understand that the pressures put on young women will force them to compete with every other woman around them. Usually an older woman will see that dynamic, and hopefully explain what is going on to you. My mom did that for me, although, her response was to be more aggressive when I think the appropriate one would to be more assertive and confident in your space.

[@manushka7297]

This was tactless and unnecessary. Nobody's perfect and if you're being devalued and working your ass off, guess what...you're not going to be sweet and stellar. It's human. Emma is clearly very young. But this is a huge no. What's the point? Or motive? Shows over everyone is moving on with life, why should anything about your costars come out of your mouth after the fact? I'm sure growing up on the show Emma has had her less than perfect moments and isn't always a ray of sunshine. Working on set sometimes 12, 14, even 16hrs a day you'll get on each others nerves. You'll sometimes say the wrong thing. It's human, it's family. Why open your big mouth about it years after. Totally suspect. Also this to me does not put Emma in a good light. Also if Emmy were a problem, or had a bad attitude why do I only hear compliments from her other costars? Cameron and William have nothing but good things to say about her. And it sounds like Emmy cared enough to give her advice but she just didn't like it. And maybe was hard on her. This could all easily be misconstrued. Really suspect 🤔

[@JK-qw2sn]

it free information, it only takes a google search to know that emmy isn’t the best person on set, she almost wasn’t hired because of her reputation

[@stephaniejunkins9674]

Jealousy didn't become her in this interview. 🤢

[@kyrasl]

She literally answered the question?

[@aliceozz5779]

I agree ☝️ she sounded very messy.

[@apolloscrow3686]

Why? Because Emma Kenney is not a good actor and this will probably be the only memorable role she ever has. I agree, a totally unnecessary attitude here, especially knowing how undervalued Rossum was on the show and how hard she had to fight to direct some episodes. My suspicion is that Rossum was probably bossy sometimes and ambitious and maybe demanded more of her costars, but whatever it was it worked because the show was never the same without her.

[@AnnieAnswersCG]

There was definitely a weird competition vibe of who's the better actress. When Emmy left and the show wasn't as good, it left emma salty is all cause she thought she'd be the new star. so she aired out that Emmy Rossum isn't a perfect ray of sunshine and has bad days haha

[@noamweizmann]

I never got any competition vibes at all. Emma is 10 years younger than her.

[@micahjenkins7708]

@@noamweizmann she said on set we weren't there

[@noamweizmann]

@@micahjenkins7708 True, none of us know anything for sure but this is my opinion.

[@AnnieAnswersCG]

That's still a sibling rivalry vibe at 10 years apart.

[@apolloscrow3686]

I find Emma Kenney’s attitude here really unprofessional and annoying. Emmy Rossum was the main draw of the show, she is a great performer, bright and immensely talented. If she was tough on set maybe it’s because that was needed. And maybe the “vibe” became more easy-going for Emma after the stakes had dropped into the toilet along with the ratings. I’m watching season 10 and Emma continues to be the weakest actor in this ensemble.

[@nicholasgarrick7546]

They probably had a little sister ,and big sister relationship all while being colleagues at the same time. emmy was also the basis of the show, and it ran for almost 10 years I feel like that stuff is inevitable I'm just sad that they didn't come out stronger ,and still in touch afterward.

[@ashleyk3602]

Emma’s feelings are valid about Emmy. Regardless Emmy is a phenomenal actress, and I would love to see another show with her in it. Sometimes coworkers don’t get along. Sometimes they do. It’s a fact of life.

[@rrvvjjrr9194]

Many of the people in comments are talking about Fiona, this is about Emmy, we have to separate character from the actor, you never know how a person behaves off screen unless you've worked with them, so you can't predict their real life behaviour through a show character ffs. They might have had problems with her if the cast is saying so

[@worse0185]

right they’re naive as fuck.. if the girl said she was like that then that’s her experience tbh it’s not hard to believe.. go search up her red table talk she has the minds set of a privileged brat

[@EughhBrothereughh]

Well its still not classy To say such things about your co star after so many years

[@matess900]

@@EughhBrothereughh she was asked a question and answered based on her personal experience. Which she has every right to do. They worked together for years and she’s a lot younger than her, if she didn’t have a positive experience with her she should be allowed to express that, it’s her truth.

[@MrDlt123]

Although there's probably some truth in Emma's words, what good does it do? As with any job, its better to leave stuff in the past, and if you still have an axe to grind, call 'em up and talk it out one-on-one.

[@mylesstubblefield6082]

I didn’t listen to the podcast but seems like they were just having a conversation and Emma was just answering questions and telling people the truth in a mature and matter of fact way. She seems to genuinely have no ill will towards Rossum. Doesn’t do any good but it’s perfect normal to talk about your experience and relationships with other people without having to lie or walk on eggshells just because you’re famous

[@kyrasl]

@@mylesstubblefield6082 exactly she was aksed the question its not like she said it out of spite or randomly

[@beastzelda8483]

She was asked a question. She answered it.

[@whosaprettykitty5076]

@@mylesstubblefield6082 you don’t have to answer every single question. She could have just said they had good and bad days, instead of making it seem like Emmy was hard to work with

[@mylesstubblefield6082]

@@whosaprettykitty5076 true. She didn’t have to but she’s an adult who has the prerogative to answer questions and reveal however little or much she’s comfortable with

[@ladycalderone99]

Can we also factor in the characters these two girls played? They were NOT on a sunshine and rainbows type of show, they were on a show where EXTREMELY dark things happened literally every other scene. It makes perfect sense to me to not be in a happy-go-lucky kind of mood all the time, or even very often at all. Fiona's NOT a happy character, in fact she's a tortured character who has been a victim of her life's circumstances all her life. Idk to what levels Emmy infected everyone else with her negative mood, but if her crime was just being negative or unhappy at ALL then I think that's pretty unfair. It's actually not difficult to be negative in a way that's infectious, like even if you're just quieter than usual or even just a bit snappy, people who know you can pick up on it and it can effect their moods too. Fiona's the type of character where Emmy would BENEFIT having her head in that headspace to play her, and Emma didn't say Emmy was cruel or irrationally unkind, just that Emmy had an infectious negativity and had given her bad advice. Emma is making it seem like it was deliberate bad advice, but we don't have any concept for what that advice was, or what made it bad advice. And whether advice is good or not is almost ENTIRELY subjective. Emma could've considered it bad advice but EMMY could disagree entirely and consider it perfectly reasonable advice. I just don't think anyone should take Emma's perspective alone as "proof" that Emmy is a mean person.

[@CapitalCH]

she's got to be delusional to think emmy thought of her as competition when she was 9 years old. come on. she was the star and even when emma got older she would never be able to compare lets be real.

[@snahbrah4046]

Not mad at either one. Honestly good for Emma for saying how she truly felt. Good for Emmy on leaving.

[@noaheargle4009]

Miss girl really just stirred the pot now I know why I slightly disliked Debbie

[@amandamatczak5786]

Agree. I feel like you could feel the hostility from her even in the show

[@joogullae3456]

Fr fr, I never cared for her character, and honestly couldn't stand her.

[@venicerae2114]

@@joogullae3456 separate her character from her in real life you have no idea what have went on during set so don’t hate on her because she told us how she felt personally.

[@joogullae3456]

@@venicerae2114 i said I couldnt stand character specifically.

[@tymac9127]

What does any of this have to do with what she said about Emmys behaviour on set like y'all are missing the point????how the hell are y'all grown ass hell but can't understand that treating people like shit at work is never ok???😒

[@Jamaal.R.]

Sad that’s the impression that was left. I’ve always wondered how the cast felt about her leaving because she was the heart of the show to me.

[@denmarrx8355]

at least shes honest, whenever i saw photos especially ones with season 1 emmy & season 1 emma they looked they genuinely liked eachother, of course they don’t hate eachother but yea

[@crisscross7758]

Fiona was my favorite character. I was always rooting for her to get her life together. The show is not the same without her.

[@angeliaimeanttoloveyouharr8404]

This the comment I was looking for.

[@denmarrx8355]

i just realised their names are basically the same except for the last letter 😭 & they’re the only girls in the family

[@natalier1821]

The show started going down after season 5. When Emmy wanted to leave it should have been the end. Emma is cute but Debbie came to be the worst character for me.

[@nikkijohnson8484]

That’s what I said after Fiona left that should of been the end of Shameless because it got boring season 10/11

[@SexAndCandyHair92]

Emmy isn’t going to respond about what a bratty 22 year old says. She’s not going to give her the attention she’s clearly looking for.

[@JK-qw2sn]

im pretty sure she was a child in the beginning and emma isn’t the only one who said that emmy is very problematic

[@alexf9447]

A bratty 22 year old, with crappy acting at that.

[@ansutoure5583]

I’m saying how does she go from in 2019 saying she’s going to miss Emmy on set and stuff to now bashing her and saying it was hard to work with her like girl what😃

[@stephaniejunkins9674]

Ohhh but I hope she does! 👀😂😂

[@kyrasl]

She answered the question how is she looking for attention?

[@latoyajohnson2276]

I see why celebs don't like doing interviews, everything she said and yall ran w/ this as the title lol messy!

[@dominiqueroseeee]

Shes worked with her since she was a little girl. She has every right to saying what she said. Stop making excuses for grown ass adults

[@jordanharrison1113]

More actors should be as honest as this. Anyone that makes the workplace toxic for everyone else just because they’re in a mood is a bad Apple. And WAY too many people in Hollywood get away with it.

[@jadec1828]

exactly!!!! its bc most of hollywood actors are narcissists.

[@mariem8705]

Yes, but it’s also how you get dropped in Hollywood. Most actors/actresses won’t speak out due to their professionalisms and also protecting their careers.

[@nyame-kyekondo7306]

Sounds like she feels slighted. Like she was saddened and offended by the fact that their relationship had not carried past the show. She wanted Emmy to get a message. Not sure if this is the right portal though

[@Queenbrieee]

I LOVED shameless. I haven't been that emotionally invested in a show since the OC lol. Being the eldest of 5 and raised by a single drug addicted parent, I felt a strong connection to Fiona in particular. After Emmy left, I still watched out of desperation but the show just wasn't the same. It lacked the authenticity it once had. Anyway I can definitely see Emmy being bitchy, because I'm bitchy, and it takes one to know one lol🤗 No but even on actors roundtable discussion, she was sort of stuck up and snooty. Especially to America Ferrara...

[@windsofthewest2164]

You know it is just a show. If she had done half of those things in real life , she would be in Prison

[@Queenbrieee]

@@windsofthewest2164 Ok... Did I give you the impression that I believed the show to be real 🤔

[@hollytree3379]

Oh man. I definitely wouldn't brush this tension off. I love Emmy Rossum and her work, but this sounds like a complicated dynamic. Emma Kenney (Debbie) was so young when the show started, and impressionable. Kids see a lot.

[@leavingnormal88]

I think this plays a huge part. The older people in a kid's life (especially where they're the age they could be your older siblings) have such a profound impact on a person growing up. Hell, my siblings 100% shaped my personality to what it is today. I had an older cousin who was so awful to me when we were kids, and even thought I saw her only a handful of times, she left such a profound impact on me that lasts to this day. I still feel resentful, even though she is very kind nowadays, and has changed a lot.

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

Right? I like Emmy as well but this ain’t great.

[@lindsayanderson880]

I can definitely see it though. Ive watched some interviews with Emmy and she can rub me the wrong way/ come off rude at times :(

[@denmarrx8355]

wdym me? you weren’t interviewing

[@creamerasant]

Huh? I have never seen a rude interview of her once... Oh well..

[@Michelle-dm3nl]

Facts!! She did an actress round table where she was being condescending and dismissing other women’s experiences. Women who have been in the business longer than her and made valid points. I believe Emma and it’s wild that people dismiss what she’s saying just because she’s young and Emmy is a great actress and was fighting pay. She could also not be great to work with.

[@worse0185]

she’s very rude as fuck and fiona groupies aren’t gonna admit it.

[@allisonchainz82]

After watching that Hollywood actresses Roundtable episode with Emmy in it, I definitely caught that attitude, she was embarrassing to watch. You can be a good actress and a shitty person. I loved Fiona, Emmy not so much.

[@TheCulture]

The show was definitely not the same when Emmy left. Should of been Emma instead.

[@jariahterecita]

just because you may not like debbie’s character doesn’t mean she’s undeserving of the role. debbie’s storyline was actually going somewhere and let’s be real, fiona’s was just going downhill, she had to hit rock bottom and leave.

[@TheCulture]

@@jariahterecita Nope, Debbie was the weakest link of the whole show. She should have been cut from it.

[@jariahterecita]

@@TheCulture like i said. she had a storyline, fiona was just cheating, doing drugs, and fucking up her life. but also- separate the actress from the character. you keep making it seem like it’s emma’s fault that her character is unlikeable, she didn’t write the script. lastly, frank was a TERRIBLE, abusive, alcoholic father yet nobody wants him off the show… why is that? he definitely could’ve been killed off sooner. monica the same. lip was selfish and most people hate him too, he’s not wanted off the show? mickeys dad. we all hated karen and wanted her killed sooner. if we booted all the characters that we didn’t like then there’d only be ian, mickey, and liam.

[@TheCulture]

@@jariahterecita false, I dislike Emma. Not just as the character she plays. She was annoying and now talking about her cast members.

[@jariahterecita]

@@TheCulture 1. she’s allowed to give her opinion about her time on the set of shameless. 2. you said “she was annoying” when and where. you used to word was so, do you not find her annoying anymore? it seems as though you are either a very young child and uneducated about the industry or you just hate emma and keep commenting hate.

[@thepyramids86]

Ouch. Was this necessary?

[@creamerasant]

She is young.

[@armvnic]

@@creamerasant she's 22

[@JK-qw2sn]

She was asked a question

[@whosaprettykitty5076]

@@creamerasant I’m young and I wouldn’t have said this lol. Over sharing is a habit my generation has, and it really stirs the pot. Also, in Hollywood, people don’t like working with those who do this. Imagine having a bad day on set with Emma, and worrying about her coming on some podcast or doing an interview and telling them this. This isn’t good for her career.

[@creamerasant]

@@whosaprettykitty5076 Perhaps you matured faster than her. Majority of young ppl are ignorant..say things with their emotions and not thinking of the bigger picture.

[@user-fr4ih5hv2t]

i wonder if she only made the set toxic because of how she had to be toxic for her character. like it’s probably hard for actors to go from irritated, stressed burnt out, controlling character to a normal person. debby and fiona were really against each other in the show and fiona was very irritated with debby and had no patience so is it the actor being toxic or an actor having difficulty separating themselves and i’m only saying this because i always hear famous actors saying this. sarah paulson is a wonderful actor and says she struggles mentally and struggles to differentiate acting to reality. Lupita Nyong’o is another wonderful actor and said she was very in the characters in us and had to mentally prepare for her roles and physically prepare for the voice

[@codyhughes1147]

I heard she can be a lot to handle on set. I figure that worked well for the show. Shes a great actress. Such a crazy range of emotions.

[@blaseblasebih5706]

There's this thing where people can speak their truth and own it and unfortunately this is Emma's truth. In fact most of these comments are giving credence to her point. You can like the CHARACTER Fiona, and appreciate the fact that the actress who played her, wasn't the nicest person, and not pit them against each other 🤯

[@angiebylan5942]

I watch shameless when I feel like my life is going downhill. I watch the show for inspiration to pick myself up. There are families in real life that suffer from the same disfunctional traits.

[@thefablifeofdri5425]

I legit stopped watching because I got my life together 😂

[@joannebaker4925]

Why is it that individuals are excused or given passes when they behave badly all because they are deemed important. Regardless to the circumstances, it still doesn't make it ok or right when one individual behavior is impacting others around them in a very negative way. Everyone should be held a the same standard regardless to how important they believe they're or how others impressed upon them that they're so important. That's what wrong with our society in this day and age.

[@jocelyncooper1738]

Shit like this is why public figures get away with being terrible people for so long.

[@stancinatti8198]

When there is also a toxic role that characters have to play it is an emotional strain on the actors sometimes as well

[@JaxLittles]

It feels like Hollywood really has never appreciated Emmy's talent. She can sing, act, dance, etc. That being said... an entertainer is an entertainer... doesn't mean they can be jerks to others. Paychecks should reflect talent

[@AjZara_]

It’s sad actually, but this happens a lot. Emmy has always had a dominant personality, you see it in interviews all the time, so it may be difficult to work with sometimes. People think Emma’s throwing her under the bus but if anything it just shows that things can be rough or borderline toxic in work environments. I am not hating on Emmy, but even someone who works hard as her needs to be less headstrong when around others you’re with months at a time.

[@ErlineGray]

That's her opinion.. why do people have something to say like they were on the show....if she had a problem she had a problem...

[@abigaildyer04]

exactly

[@Kittykumbata]

can someone have a feeling towards someone whether it’s negative or positive, and let that be that??? She actually worked with her so she definitely knows her more then us u weirdos

[@stitchedmouthgirl]

I’ve met Emmy Rossum twice and see on her on set of Shameless and she isn’t very nice to talk to. She’s very curt with people and has no patience. Sometimes she’d snap her fingers at crew or other cast when they weren’t fast enough or messed up a line, then laugh it off like it was a joke. I could tell it made everyone very uncomfortable. Emmy’s lack of patience made her impossible to talk to. But in her defence, she was probably very busy and stressed out from filming (the schedule was very tight). Also her performance as Fiona was always amazing, and her acting in general is always A+. I always wondered why the network was so against giving her a raise (since she was a lead and had always been very good at her job, I felt although she deserved it) and why she didn’t have a lot of work at the time except for Shameless. I hate to say it but it’s likely her attitude and her imitating nature to blame for why she isn’t getting her a lot acting jobs right now. *EDIT:* Just to be clear, I’m not saying that everything that Emma is saying in this video is true. She’s a lot like Emmy; a great actress but has her own issues. I wasn’t on set for very long but from what could see Emmy was snappy because she was tired (for whatever reason) and Emma was a major diva. But an ok diva, if that makes sense. Diva ness comes from other people hyping her up too much and she’s become numb to it. But also feels inferior to her older more experienced co stars. I’m really not surprised to hear her throwing shade at Emmy here.

[@vero0nica17]

Omg that is HER OPINION. and she is owed it because it's her experiences over the years. It's not throwing her cast member under the bus. Alot of yall are basically saying that because she was under paid, it's OK that took her anger out on everyone else she worked with, smh. Just because you love a character on a show, doesn't mean they are always right or being positive. Nobody is perfect literally.

[@hulda4ever]

Why does it sound like Emma wanted Emmy to be a parent ? Emmy was a teenager and she has her own emotions and life. They were co workers and Emmy isn't responsible to making a child on set feel better

[@azznnj]

she's so immature for that part Emmy is better overall tho so shrug that lil bish she just hating on Emmy 😤

[@aurorajudith-ramirez7389]

Fiona deserved her happy ending 🥺

[@MaryJaneBluntkevinalvizurez]

“I’m sure she’s going to be a lovely mother” the shade

[@zhinozhwan8941]

Honestly I don’t blame Emmy. The didn’t let her keep her natural hair for 9 years which caused great damages to her hair, I believe they didn’t accommodate to her celiac on set, and on top of that she wasn’t being paid the same as William despite carrying the show on her back. I’d be grumpy on set too

[@amariahyoungblood6164]

Just cause she carried the show doesn’t mean she didn’t act like that off cameras

[@Junitunes]

Everyone’s like “you shouldnt trash talk her it will effect her career.” No ! She did this to herself. Don’t be a bad person and good things will continue to happen

[@lovejunkie6078]

@TAO no one from the shameless set has ever said anything bad about Emmy except this girl. So I don’t see any proof that this really happened. One persons word doesn’t make it true. Funny how u immediately beleive her tho. You’d think if Emmy was such a nightmare that many others who worked in the shameless set would’ve come forward - especially since she’s been gone for a few years now.

[@reneeelizabeth8822]

@@lovejunkie6078 that’s what i’m thinking

[@wordswrittenbyme2109]

the way i cringed reading this headline i'm all for honesty but this makes Emmy seem like a problem actress and that won't help her going forward career wise.

[@Jen281]

I can’t say I disagree. Emmy came out on Instagram calling people who don’t get vaccinated irresponsible idiots offending thousands.

[@RJ-kb3qf]

Just because someone seems nice doesn’t mean they’re nice to everybody. I can relate to this

[@abbaskarimi6762]

it doesn't matter to me ! Emmy was the one who kept the show alive ! the rest is none of my business unless she was hurting others on purpose!

[@ronancefilm]

she was never a bad person. Her other co-stars talked bout how they loved working w emmy now all of us sudden emma is like "she was terrible"?? I mean no one backed her up bout that. William h macy also said that he missed her when she left

[@khristinawhittz6109]

Lol Emma Kenney is without a doubt the worst character on the show…Emmy kept them all employed the show is nothing without Emmy Rossum. Such a sad woman that she has to tear down another woman in the business to make herself look better.

[@JK-qw2sn]

and emmy has been known to be an awful person

[@kkandsims4612]

I mean william and Emmy yes Frank is horrible but let’s be honest no shameless without Frank

[@JGil23]

Yeah she’s the worst and can’t act

[@RealRedheadedBeauty]

It seems to be a trait of hers. She threw a fit over Roseanne too.

[@julesdwill]

Bullshit, Frank carried the show, Emmy's character was boring af

[@tatitalk3539]

“I know I wasn’t creating the competition”….. yes honey, you clearly were. And basically just admitted you never really liked Emmy without actually having to say it.

[@justme-ew3ri]

She was a child so she literally couldn't have be creating the competition

[@nellae9101]

Typical blaming the child lol sick. And she never said she didn't like her she never even subliminally said it you just made up whatever you wanna believe cause clearly you hate kids... And I must be right about you based off you're own logic. She said good and not so good things about their relationship and mover implied any dislike toward Emmy. You are just crazy.

[@saradrayton1947]

she literally just said that she has a lot of love for her so idk where u got this from

[@automnejoy5308]

​@@nellae9101 lol. I remember being a kid. I remember my peers. They could be spiteful and jealous and competitive just like adults. Maybe worse. And she's not a kid anymore. She's a grown ass adult running her mouth when she should know better.

[@toebag4286]

U guys are fucking weird

[@Felicia_The_Creative]

I’ve been where Emma describes Emmy as. I felt Emma’s analysis loud and clear and I hope that like me, Emmy has been working to overcome that negative aura. ❤️

[@amandacastillo8294]

Honestly hearing call her daddy on et is something in and of itself and hell yea emma kenny!

[@harrietreeves8444]

It’s crazy how a lot of y’all are upset about her honesty with what she experienced. Yes, Emmy character carried the show but this not about Fiona. It’s about how Emmy would act sometimes off camera and how Emma felt about it. I love that she was honest and not giving robotic answer like everybody else do.

[@aaronweeks3585]

When Emmy left the show ended in my eyes.

[@MikeA15206]

Working with people long hours usually brings out the worst in people

[@gingergrant6759]

Bad idea to talk smack about other actors - and yes, the show was disappointing when ER left. She was the heart of it.

[@reyalexandro]

That's some serious shade lmao. I haven't watched the show in years though. Wonder how it worked without her.

[@jamaalellison3076]

That's enough shade to end global warming!!!!" 🤐🤭😏😒

[@almagarcia4184]

Some of you are offended about these comments, but she is not talking about Fiona, she’s talking a about Emmy! Who is human and which makes this could be true!

[@chrisel4349]

Can totally see it.

[@ktipbomb7888]

Same lol. Everybody acting all shocked , but I'm just like, I've dealt with the type and i know the type...they may not be all around bad ppl, but they have some TERRIBLE traits. Emmy gives me that energy. Still a good show tho lol everyone was great lol

[@hannahgoodchild5255]

People really need to learn to differentiate actor’s from there characters Emma isn’t Debbie and Emmy isn’t Fiona. Just because Debbie always invalidated Fiona and was ungrateful doesn’t mean that’s what Emma was doing here. I’m not saying that it isn’t the case just that you can’t assume it is because that’s what there characters are like

[@KatieManiaci]

Some people just suck the energy out of the room

[@trailers8739]

I think its understandable why Emmy was upset those days on set bc of what she was going through but as a little sister whos older sister shares the same age difference with these two I think it's fair to say that Emma probably didn't know how to deal with Emmy being upset over something they both used to love and share with one another. It's sad they dont talk anymore but if its healthier for them then good on them.

[@lotstodo]

It didn't make sense for the character to abandon her family. She was their legal guardian. I missed her on the show.

[@GTAxpertPlay]

She wasn’t even concerned with Liam being missing in her last episode.

[@ShaneSILVA187]

Emmy is a great actor. And honestly one of the Hottest actors out there.. Love her in COLD PURSUIT.

[@RR-xm9iu]

Her being hot and a good actor has nothing to do with her bad personality.

[@UNKNOWN-qh3lh]

Everyone saying Fiona carried the show, Meanwhile I stayed for Lip

[@hiimluis429]

Yo i actually love emma for this she spoke her mind i HAVE had that unusual competitive feeling before too and i know i was not causing it! And the thing is i just kept it to myself but she is speaking her mind, love her lol

[@dilir2572]

Emmy Rossum carried the whole show tho. She was the reason I started watching it in first place. And her exit from the show made exit too. It's baffling that she was the main character of the show and didn't even get paid as much as the male actors

[@fairyboy7209]

in my opinion, it felt like the actor who played debbie was trying WAY too hard to act like fiona

[@jmmky]

Emmy is not responsible for your happiness, Emma.

[@MichaelAWoods-mj8ss]

Love this comment section. We all knew what Emmy brought to the show! I love everyone in the show just glad everyone knows what’s up in the comments😅

[@madisonhartwick8114]

I wish we could have seen Fiona flourish. I’m sad we didn’t see her in the last episode of the last season. I also don’t think anyone appreciated Emmy/Fiona on or off the show enough. The reason the show became so positive after she left is because everyone was raised up at that point except for Liam.

[@tysonb3568]

This girl spoke her truth....nothing wrong w that.....🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rachelwoolf6346]

This shocks me zero, no shade to Emmy, she was trying to get a career off the ground and it meant a lot to her so I understand some of these emotions. But Emma was a little girl and now she’s an adult and has every right in the world to express herself & speak her truth.

[@330wiz7]

Lol her truth isnt a real thing. There is only the truth.

[@missmarionlewis]

This is what happens when a show is in too long

[@jetlee3276]

It’s sad popularity gives ppl false narratives just like when rappers get accused of rape and murder and just because their more liked ppl will shun the victims