Shamima Begum: ISIS Bride's Fate Hangs In Balance: Citizenship Appeal Decision Imminent

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In a highly controversial case, Shamima Begum, a British citizen who travelled to Syria at the age of 15 in 2015, is awaiting the outcome of her appeal against the removal of her British citizenship. The decision, which will be made tomorrow, has sparked a heated debate on whether Begum should be allowed to return to the UK and face the consequences of her actions.
Filmmaker and author Andrew Drury, who has interviewed Begum multiple times, and human rights lawyer Shoaib Khann, specializing in asylum and immigration-related cases, shared their perspectives on the case. Drury initially felt sympathy for Begum, describing her as apologetic and scared when he first met her. However, over time, he claims that her character changed, and she started to manipulate him for her own benefit.
Drury argues that Begum made a conscious decision to join an illegal organization and renounce her British citizenship. He believes that she should not be allowed to return to the UK and should face justice for her actions. On the other hand, Khan opposes the revocation of citizenship in principle and believes that Begum, as a British-born individual, should be punished under the UK judicial system if she has committed a crime.
The discussion also touched upon the age of criminal responsibility and whether Begum, who was 15 at the time of her actions, should be held accountable for her choices. Khan emphasized that even though Begum was above the age of criminal responsibility, the punishment for crimes committed as a child should be different from that of an adult.
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@steviewonder5764
@steviewonder5764 5 ай бұрын
if they let this woman back into this country, it wont be long before she becomes the next mayor of London.
@zakjuly6721
@zakjuly6721 5 ай бұрын
She was 15 years old , i can show you grown indigenous men who did more than her ?
@Jimmy-ei4xp
@Jimmy-ei4xp 5 ай бұрын
​@@zakjuly6721Irrelevant
@witlesswonderthe2nd883
@witlesswonderthe2nd883 5 ай бұрын
At 15 she was old enough to know better she’d still be still there happily going along with atrocities
@steviewonder5764
@steviewonder5764 5 ай бұрын
@@zakjuly6721 can you, show them then.
@denisebraganza
@denisebraganza 5 ай бұрын
15 to this day zero remorse and dangerous
@Cherismile
@Cherismile 5 ай бұрын
If she gets back in , we're pathetic as a country , i could just weep for what was my wonderful country😢😢
@liammorris1018
@liammorris1018 5 ай бұрын
She's probably already back.
@ossianx8752
@ossianx8752 5 ай бұрын
I am with you there - they are probably going to ask us to fight Russia shortly to 'save us from Putin' but I look at what this country has become and what is it we are fighting for ? More immigration, more ignoring British born people and diluting the more 'native' British vote, more foreign criminals taking our houses and money, virtually no deportations and no quality control on immigration, more woke crud, entertaining a different law system for certain cultures and blatant double standards, more debt and spending, more indoctrination for the kids and drag queens in the schools, more 'climate crisis' driving working families bills up? The political class and a tiny band of special interests have ruined the nation, made most of us poorer and constantly put their idealisms over and above pragmatism, decency, finances and self reliance.
@zakjuly6721
@zakjuly6721 5 ай бұрын
15 years old ! isnt that a child ?.... she did not kill anyone ...
@coraynbell8991
@coraynbell8991 5 ай бұрын
@@zakjuly6721 How do you know she didn't kill anyone? She was instrumental in making bombing vests
@johntooth1886
@johntooth1886 5 ай бұрын
She was young enough to be indoctrinated for life with what she did. Don't let her back.​@@zakjuly6721
@TreeRoot577
@TreeRoot577 5 ай бұрын
she was absolutely not apologetic at all she was gleeful and openly reveled in the terror acts
@gigmcsweeney8566
@gigmcsweeney8566 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense. The first interviews she gave were under duress, as the camp she was being held in was effectively being run by ISIS. As soon as she was moved to another camp she started wearing western clothes and spoke more openly about her experiences. It's clear she was highly traumatised.
@mukhtarali8778
@mukhtarali8778 5 ай бұрын
its clear that if she was white women they will treat her different 💯
@AlexSmith-lt4it
@AlexSmith-lt4it 5 ай бұрын
America, Britain, and Israel are some of the biggest terrorists on the planet. People gleefully cheer their actions on too. She didn't hurt or kill anybody...she just got married and had children. She thought ISIS fighters were fighting for her religion....she was deceived. Israel killed and displaced hundreds of thousands in 1947/48 based on religious beliefs and the world til this day cheers this on.
@kenhardy8405
@kenhardy8405 5 ай бұрын
If she gets back into Britain it will open the door for many similar individuals who are in the same position.
@hTyKn1
@hTyKn1 5 ай бұрын
it's not a door... it's called the Channel
@sashapillai7430
@sashapillai7430 5 ай бұрын
I am fed up of these HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYERS wasting taxpayer’s money by keep defending this woman. SHE CHOSE HER FATE, let her LIVE IT.
@lisah9561
@lisah9561 5 ай бұрын
same. many of us feel the same. how can we make sure our voices are heard?
@rhonahall2807
@rhonahall2807 5 ай бұрын
How about her victims human rights, no respect for this evil woman or her nasty family on benefits creaming our system. It as to stop.
@lukescott8566
@lukescott8566 5 ай бұрын
Your bang on there! You made your bed, Now sleep in it…
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
@@dg9015 you can't not pay tax unfortunately. If you do, then you go to jail for a very long time. At the very least, you get charged interest on the tax you haven't paid.
@Sthmohtwenty
@Sthmohtwenty 5 ай бұрын
Yeah ​@@lukescott8566yeah u govt giving ppp all star treatment who arrived on dingaa boat and know j/s who those ppl r ...this girl was brainwash and she was a kid
@pauljohnson4948
@pauljohnson4948 5 ай бұрын
This lawyer is a part of the problem we are currently facing as a nation.
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
Indeed. I hate to say it, but it's no surprise that he's of a similar origin. He has vested interest in her being brought back here.
@Bad-wolfe
@Bad-wolfe 5 ай бұрын
first thing they did was make sure they had these people in place to legally bring more of the 'invasion force' over
@marksykes5434
@marksykes5434 5 ай бұрын
@@Bad-wolfeCan you explain how you can “ bring an invasion force over “ ? Don’t invaders make their own way to their target ? That’s why it’s called “ invasion “ !
@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw
@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw 5 ай бұрын
It was reported that she taped suicide vests on other people. What on earth would she bring to this country other than misery?
@ianjacko9585
@ianjacko9585 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@hibaali3797
@hibaali3797 5 ай бұрын
IM PAKISTANI AND IM BORN IN THE UK , LEAVE HER WHERE SHE IS. Tell MR.KHAN TO TAKE HER HOME TO HIS HOUSE AND CARE FOR HER. TRUST ME HE WOULDN'T. HES REPRESENTING SHAMIM BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD ON HIS CV....
@maryclynch9356
@maryclynch9356 5 ай бұрын
The foreign secretary saw her file. He said she should never be allowed to come back !
@lesleyhogg2495
@lesleyhogg2495 5 ай бұрын
Keep her OUT.
@cbay11
@cbay11 5 ай бұрын
Mr Khan is not British himself he shouldn't be given a platform to speak on the matter
@leahashley9330
@leahashley9330 5 ай бұрын
He is the reason why it is so hard to deport foriengh criminal's from our country
@hTyKn1
@hTyKn1 5 ай бұрын
Anybody can become British
@anasttau9908
@anasttau9908 5 ай бұрын
@@hTyKn1 unbelivable but true!
@littlebobas9656
@littlebobas9656 5 ай бұрын
​@@adamjames2332 I think the comment is in reference to Mr Shoaib Khan, the human rights lawyer that featured in this video and NOT Saddiq Khan the Mayor of London.
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
He only cares because she's a Bangladeshi Muslim. If it was anyone else then he wouldn't give two hoots.
@deebow33
@deebow33 5 ай бұрын
If this person is allowed to return and she commits or assists in any crime or act of terrorism EVERYONE who aided her return should be held as responsible as her and face punishment.
@c9cmd335
@c9cmd335 5 ай бұрын
Ha thats wishful thinking...I agree and applaud your point...but that will NEVER HAPPEN !
@deebow33
@deebow33 5 ай бұрын
I think it's about time people who are in a position of power to make or heavily influence these high risk low reward decisions/gambles with public safety be held accountable when it goes wrong, this goes for parole boards and social service workers
@paulshea7022
@paulshea7022 5 ай бұрын
Human rights lawyers should be made responsible for the actions of people they help to remain in this country and if they commit crimes then the lawyers should be prosecuted too.
@lifeisimportantkate
@lifeisimportantkate 5 ай бұрын
I agree
@user-df1el4zi5b
@user-df1el4zi5b 5 ай бұрын
If so, the justice system won't be committed to truth and justice, it mustn't be allowed
@murphyorama
@murphyorama 5 ай бұрын
Under Sharia law a 7 year old girl can be married to a middle aged man. This woman could not have been regarded as a child at 15 under the very laws she was fighting for.
@qui-si-sana
@qui-si-sana 5 ай бұрын
That is a very good point .
@bond--007
@bond--007 5 ай бұрын
The way it's going that law will also be here soon under the child's right bill
@qui-si-sana
@qui-si-sana 5 ай бұрын
You have swung me. The Courts need to rule that she stays where she is, until such time that a country that is governed by and under Sharia Law invites her to and become a citizen of said country. Thank you for helping me to make up my own mind
@Mary-lx3zs
@Mary-lx3zs 5 ай бұрын
NEVER FORGET THE PAKISTANI MUSLIM GROOMING GANGS
@thorgrimb2416
@thorgrimb2416 5 ай бұрын
Also in many Western countries kids can be given hormone treatment and start sex mutilation before the age of 15 so if they can without of3tn their parents even knowing do this as so many say they are mature enough to make those life altering decisions then surely a 15 year old girl is mature enough to understand the implications of supporting and going aiding a terrorist organisation, and part of that is her abandoning her British citizenship we did not remove it we just confirmed her wish to abandon it.
@yourma2000
@yourma2000 5 ай бұрын
Is this story ever going to go away? Keep her out, we don't want her here.
@jayjay2129
@jayjay2129 5 ай бұрын
I bet she gets back...she'll be given a house, money, phone, dotor, dentist, the lot. Then one day she will be arrested for killing someone, and they will say "oh, we shouldn't have let her back in,sorry" Such is our weak country!!😠
@Dweesil
@Dweesil 5 ай бұрын
And you lost your bet :P
@jayjay2129
@jayjay2129 5 ай бұрын
@Darrell And I'm glad I did!! They should leave her to rot now!!!
@stephwalsh9158
@stephwalsh9158 5 ай бұрын
If she gets back in then it's clear that Britain is no longer British.
@wallacewhybrow2705
@wallacewhybrow2705 5 ай бұрын
What is there to argue? She went of her own free will and by her own admission aided and abetted barbaric actions of her Isis masters. She made her choice and at fifteen years of age she knew her own mind as right from wrong. Under no circumstances should she be allowed back in the UK.
@user-uu1wx3dr7v
@user-uu1wx3dr7v 5 ай бұрын
Yes, totally agree with you
@lisah9561
@lisah9561 5 ай бұрын
@@adamjames2332 yes. time for us to change these laws that protected these people. hopefully this little witch is the one who lets us set the precedent to change the laws to be able to protect ourselves from these people.
@maxxmaax7940
@maxxmaax7940 5 ай бұрын
Was she not groomed?
@loganblackwood2922
@loganblackwood2922 5 ай бұрын
I agree but a human rights appeal would argue if at 15 a girl cannot decide by law to move out, sign a legal document, drive a car, engage in sex, purchase alcohol or cigarettes, then she could not consent to her own behaviour. She is not a victim but the law will consider the legalities first and foremost.
@martinbennett9578
@martinbennett9578 5 ай бұрын
2nd mug shot has changed. Looks smug now.
@johnhall4851
@johnhall4851 5 ай бұрын
Why is she not in prison for life for aiding and abetting multiple murders? She is a danger and we have enough criminals in UK without adding another.
@seanhedley8028
@seanhedley8028 5 ай бұрын
I don’t want to pay to keep that in prison. I don’t want her in the country , simple as that !
@johnhall4851
@johnhall4851 5 ай бұрын
@adamjames2332 are you a terrorist sympathiser condoning murder and beheading?
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 5 ай бұрын
Not Shamima Begum again. This saga ended one year ago. End of. In February 2023, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission further ruled that Sajid Javid's decision to revoke Begum's British citizenship had been lawful, on grounds of national security.
@FontaineDerby
@FontaineDerby 5 ай бұрын
The age of criminal responsibility in England, Wales and Northern Ireland is 10-years-old (Crime and Disorder Act 1998, Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 1998). The age of criminal responsibility in Scotland is 12-years-old (Age of Criminal Responsibility (Scotland) Act 2019).
@imbonkers3629
@imbonkers3629 5 ай бұрын
She wants a life on benefits like millions of them already here 😮
@pk3778
@pk3778 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't that be her right to mooch of the state just like all the other whitefolks, enjoying themselves on state benefits...???
@johntooth1886
@johntooth1886 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 5 ай бұрын
Maybe she could work in a brothel
@Mary-lx3zs
@Mary-lx3zs 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely right
@user-ys9gq1zi2m
@user-ys9gq1zi2m 5 ай бұрын
facts.only ones who do work are human rights lawyers grabbing that legal aid gravy boat
@eternalbliss4420
@eternalbliss4420 5 ай бұрын
She should NEVER be allowed to return to the UK! This should be a lesson to the others who are contemplating the same/similar crime!
@yvonnesanders4308
@yvonnesanders4308 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we already have jihadis back in the UK
@wendyburrows4178
@wendyburrows4178 5 ай бұрын
How many more appeals is she gonna get???
@sophieryan8010
@sophieryan8010 5 ай бұрын
If she gets let back in it will be the final straw for this government’s reputation. Those lawyers are making millions on legal aid,all thanks to the tax payer who have no choice.
@beyourselfbrave4115
@beyourselfbrave4115 5 ай бұрын
NO WAY ! KEEP HER THERE !! UK HAVE ENOUGH EXTREMISTS HERE !!!
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. If she does come back here and spends time in jail then she becomes a martyr. The extremists will be protesting for her release everyday until our weak government bends.
@LeeSmith-mn2pf
@LeeSmith-mn2pf 5 ай бұрын
@@cun7us not only that but it's our hard earned money that'll be paying for it
@beyourselfbrave4115
@beyourselfbrave4115 5 ай бұрын
@LeeSmith-mn2pf Absolutely right, why should honest people pay for all the GARBAGE of the world!!??
@theresenydahl9531
@theresenydahl9531 5 ай бұрын
Don't let her return and don't worry about it, she'll get over it like she so easily got over the death over her three children.
@soniaclarke1171
@soniaclarke1171 5 ай бұрын
I agree, she's too detached as a human being and another danger to this country as the islamists that we have imported to our shores
@juliepenney2683
@juliepenney2683 5 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯
@joankirby1944
@joankirby1944 5 ай бұрын
Oooih well said.
@davetrueman6354
@davetrueman6354 5 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, as soon as Labour get power they’ll be sending a private jet for her.
@user-nx8ii4ef7f
@user-nx8ii4ef7f 5 ай бұрын
She made her choices and she can live with it!
@michealridgway7607
@michealridgway7607 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of grooming?
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 5 ай бұрын
@@michealridgway7607 Yes grooming goes on in places like Rochdale and Rotherham but the children in Rochdale and Rotherham didn't but their own tickets into forced prostitution.
@michealridgway7607
@michealridgway7607 5 ай бұрын
@@mrmyorky5634 so if your 15 year old daughter meets someone online and goes and meets them would you consider that being groomed ?
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 5 ай бұрын
@@michealridgway7607 'Groomed' is a useful word to use for people like yourself who wish to avoid facing up to the truth. It can be used to deflect responsibility for our own wrong decisions and It's often used as an excuse to avoid punishment for choosing deliberate criminal behaviour. The truth is that Begum has only jumped on the 'I've been Groomed' bandwagon after ending up on the losing side. It's called Poetic justice. 😂😂😂😂😂
@Jennyxx-ie5jw
@Jennyxx-ie5jw 26 күн бұрын
@@michealridgway7607 This i do also see it from this persepctive. I wanna feel 100 percent sorry for her but i can't she just doesn't seem to care or see how her actions have affected others
@rosielee938
@rosielee938 5 ай бұрын
What on earth did our forefathers fight for..!! Our country has gone to the dogs
@ProudSanghi108
@ProudSanghi108 5 ай бұрын
Your forefathers only fought for loots from others countries. I am seeing how your country is falling apart with Islamophobia and I don't feel bad. Your forefathers ruined many countries and responsible for the death of millions.
@UKSKIDS
@UKSKIDS 5 ай бұрын
The great sir Winston Churchill would be turning in his grave..
@martinwilliams4759
@martinwilliams4759 5 ай бұрын
Leave her were she is she's not arr problem
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
"Arr"? 🤔
@sirderam1
@sirderam1 5 ай бұрын
​@cun7us I think he may be pirate!
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
@@sirderam1 I was thinking that 😂
@fish4fun84
@fish4fun84 5 ай бұрын
No wonder we screwed when they let people who sat laughing at heads on poles back in. Evil person who found the grass isnt greener well tough
@mireiacastello7041
@mireiacastello7041 5 ай бұрын
Whichever way they rule, I hope she isn't labouring under the delusion that the British people want her back.
@catrinholmes7026
@catrinholmes7026 5 ай бұрын
How many times can she appeal against this decision?
@carasdawr4752
@carasdawr4752 5 ай бұрын
As long as the British taxpayer continues to pay for her appeals...stop that and the human rights leeches...sorry, "lawyers"...will lose interest.
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 5 ай бұрын
Infinite amount it seems 😂 unbelievable 😭
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 5 ай бұрын
​@@carasdawr4752Not our choice though, unfortunately. Joke
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 5 ай бұрын
The lawyer says she was raised, schooled etc here, well yes, and look how she has treated the country that gave her all that !
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 5 ай бұрын
@@RubyMoon778 It seems endless. Only in the UK. Criminals paradise.
@carasdawr4752
@carasdawr4752 5 ай бұрын
Would she want to come back to the UK if Isis had won in Syria?
@74quo
@74quo 5 ай бұрын
How much has this cost the tax payer so far all these years dragging this out. Leave her.
@karajo77
@karajo77 5 ай бұрын
Removal of her British citizenship now!
@object764
@object764 5 ай бұрын
Begum's father resides in Bangladesh and her mother is believed to be a Bangladeshi national, and the U.K. government has argued that under Bangladeshi law, this means Begum is automatically a citizen of the country as well.
@user-yg2zv5tx7k
@user-yg2zv5tx7k 5 ай бұрын
🇦🇺 that's under Commonwealth law, that's why we need to get rid of the Commonwealth and the monarchy
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 5 ай бұрын
@@user-yg2zv5tx7k Especially, with "royals" meddling in politics. Will and Charles in WEF and eco agenda.
@SarahJaneOmega
@SarahJaneOmega 5 ай бұрын
Thing is, Bangladeshi officials have said that a) she won't be allowed into Bangladesh, and b) that if she were to try to go there, she'd face capital punishment. I'm not advocating for her to come back to Britain though.
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 5 ай бұрын
@@SarahJaneOmega She's not our problem and I don't care what are the laws in Bangladesh. If she will face capital punishment, that's on Bangladeshi law. ISIS terrorists have little sympathy towards people, so why would anyone care?
@MrSoulsFull
@MrSoulsFull 5 ай бұрын
Cut off all aid to Bangladesh and cancel all visas. Job done. I'd give it 48hrs before Bangladesh make a u turn
@donnaskinner7489
@donnaskinner7489 5 ай бұрын
Vile individual
@johntooth1886
@johntooth1886 5 ай бұрын
Most of them are. They all lie.
@YB-ok1ny
@YB-ok1ny 5 ай бұрын
They have a gift to make people believe their victim story
@garrybrough1881
@garrybrough1881 5 ай бұрын
she made her bed, the british people do not want her back and take no responsibility for her safety if she should return
@mikalliz2167
@mikalliz2167 5 ай бұрын
Send her to Afghanistan
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 5 ай бұрын
Bangladesh, where her dad and mother live on BENEFITS from the UK.
@mikalliz2167
@mikalliz2167 5 ай бұрын
@@OpenlyBritish all the more reason to send her to Afghanistan
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 5 ай бұрын
​@@OpenlyBritishis that right ? Probably. Couldn't make it up
@vjamesg100
@vjamesg100 5 ай бұрын
Why pay benefits to foreign nationals?
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
She's already in Syria. That's good enough.
@didwest1249
@didwest1249 5 ай бұрын
They will let her back guanteed.this country has no back bone
@wallacewhybrow2705
@wallacewhybrow2705 5 ай бұрын
@didwest1249 It will happen when Smarmer gets in.
@fastbandit1250
@fastbandit1250 5 ай бұрын
Look what runs the country, they hate us and want uk to become Islamic state
@jamie-hb8gy
@jamie-hb8gy 5 ай бұрын
She never left.
@cun7us
@cun7us 5 ай бұрын
Labour probably will. They want to appease the Muslims.
@seanhedley8028
@seanhedley8028 5 ай бұрын
I’m really surprised that lawyer is against revoking citizenship 🤔
@Sabertooth12
@Sabertooth12 5 ай бұрын
A "Human Rights Lawyer" arguing on behalf of an individual who willingly joined a cause that actively particiapted in some of the worst offences against 'HUMAN RIGHTS' in the 21st century... Ridiculous...
@peterscott1411
@peterscott1411 5 ай бұрын
Why are all these immigration lawyers non English ?
@deirdreloughran8258
@deirdreloughran8258 5 ай бұрын
England is a joke now
@laurencesmith1435
@laurencesmith1435 5 ай бұрын
My wife's grandfather joined the Royal navy at 14 years old (he said he was 18) and fought in ww1. She knew what she was doing!
@mukhtarali8778
@mukhtarali8778 5 ай бұрын
your grandfather lairs his age its that what your recommended
@rosahacketts1668
@rosahacketts1668 5 ай бұрын
You sure about his age!
@laurencesmith1435
@laurencesmith1435 5 ай бұрын
@rosahacketts1668 yes. He was court martialled at the end of the war because they found out his real age!
@laurencesmith1435
@laurencesmith1435 5 ай бұрын
@@mukhtarali8778 well, considering islam encourages lying with taqiyya - what's the difference?
@diegocepeda4876
@diegocepeda4876 5 ай бұрын
​@@mukhtarali8778 Seriously? 🙈🤌
@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw
@MargaretAnderson-ti1sw 5 ай бұрын
This lawyer makes a propsperous living off these types of cases.
@dominichartl8625
@dominichartl8625 5 ай бұрын
Why is she comparing this second generation immigrant to native people who actually belong here. It's a joke.
@shazosborne7789
@shazosborne7789 5 ай бұрын
We don't want her in the uk , nor do we want the others. What is the government doing to the uk. Its heartbreaking. People that do vile things like beheading our soldiers should stay where its exceptable to behave that way and the uk ISNT THE PLACE.
@MrSimonsonLifts
@MrSimonsonLifts 5 ай бұрын
She didn’t know what she was doing at 15 but we all had to listen to Greta thunberg at 15 and take her word as gospel as she was completely capable of understanding complex global issues. The left are crazy 😂
@annkeddie3370
@annkeddie3370 5 ай бұрын
Well said good point
@heathercooper6043
@heathercooper6043 5 ай бұрын
Excellent point.
@foreverengland6590
@foreverengland6590 5 ай бұрын
perfect point
@user-dh6me4tf7y
@user-dh6me4tf7y 5 ай бұрын
They will let her back in, give her a flat as well as other benefits so she doesn’t have to work and probably protect her identity on top of that.
@RobertSmith-rj9md
@RobertSmith-rj9md 5 ай бұрын
Next person to be DEPORTED should be that Foreign Lawyer
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 5 ай бұрын
As an aside, this Government now hands out over 20,000 UK Citizenships EVERY year to Foreigners. I suspect that for every Luba (the Russian dancer off Strictly, who's lived and worked here for 13 years) there are 1,000 Muslims who moved here 10 years ago and run the local shop, but otherwise don't like this country and are cheering on the Hate marches ! I'd like to see a halt to any more Citizenships for the next 5 years.....the opposite will happen under Labour, of course.
@vjamesg100
@vjamesg100 5 ай бұрын
Stop immigration entirely. No five year ban. Train our own British people and stop charging incredible fees.
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 5 ай бұрын
They have a habit of only being interested in serving their own community, they dont want to eat pie n mash or yorkshire pudding.
@lifeisimportantkate
@lifeisimportantkate 5 ай бұрын
They will claim human rights
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 5 ай бұрын
@@lifeisimportantkate thats why you gotta convince your local mp with a letter to scrap all of our human rights for a new bill of rights for british people only.
@gavinlevy1693
@gavinlevy1693 5 ай бұрын
She will probably in charge of immigration for the Labour Party
@Dalbayob69
@Dalbayob69 5 ай бұрын
If that lawyer likes her so much and thinks our laws are wrong, send him over there so he can live where the laws are right for him.
@MrMacon567
@MrMacon567 5 ай бұрын
Stop the legal aid this would stop this instantly those lawyers won’t work for free !
@lennyh500
@lennyh500 5 ай бұрын
Bet she can't wait for the next labour government.
@ronlight5267
@ronlight5267 5 ай бұрын
How much money does this lawyer take from the British Tax Payer. The whole system is crazy. When will MP's listen to the people.
@vjamesg100
@vjamesg100 5 ай бұрын
They never will.
@terrydonegan1622
@terrydonegan1622 5 ай бұрын
It's just incredible that we are talking about this.
@martinglasgow1219
@martinglasgow1219 5 ай бұрын
Why is this even an issue, done.
@MrSoulsFull
@MrSoulsFull 5 ай бұрын
How does it hang in the balance? She's got access to unlimited taxpayer funded legal aid, she's allowed appeal after appeal after appeal. When this one fails they'll be another one and another one. The legal aid needs to be cut off. This is not acceptable.
@patdarby2705
@patdarby2705 5 ай бұрын
She'll be allowed back in. She will be allowed to join the police if she wants to (or even the armed forces), one day even possibly ending up as Commissioner of the Met Police. There is no doubt she will be accepted as a Labour MP if she wants to become one. It would not surprise me if she even rose to a senior position in the anti terrorist squad or intelligence units. The way this country is going, nothing would surprise me anymore. I am beyond beyond shocked.
@heathercooper6043
@heathercooper6043 5 ай бұрын
Those are my thoughts exactly. This debate and legal showcase is just that a showcase to make it look as if our safety or opinion is of concern. She was always going to be allowed back here and now certain types know how powerful they are, if she's not allowed back in they will flex their muscles until the government changes the outcome more favourable to them.
@patdarby2705
@patdarby2705 5 ай бұрын
Yes, theatre and pantomime for the masses. They let people who are equally as bad or worse than Begum who weren't even born here into the UK, so it's inconceivable that Begum will be refused readmittance, if now now, then next time. All part of the theatre.
@SickOfItAll-do1cf
@SickOfItAll-do1cf 5 ай бұрын
The BBC will do a documentary on her too probably, asking her about her 'grooming' ordeal​@@patdarby2705
@BarghestOne
@BarghestOne 5 ай бұрын
If it was so bad for her out there why is she still alive and seemingly better off than most brits in the country
@alien8r33d
@alien8r33d 5 ай бұрын
I fail to see how they can cancel her British Citizenship on the grounds of National Security when they are letting immigrants in with little or no vetting, however I think she's made her bed...
@iguiste23
@iguiste23 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if loyal British people like our armed forces, NHS, Police, Fire services and general population whom are struggling got this much attention and effort put into them?. Why are we still entertaining this? are we incapable of making a decision and standing by it?. And you wonder why people like Kim and Putin don't take a word of what we say seriously.
@kingspagge
@kingspagge 5 ай бұрын
Shoaib Khan wants to vouch for her returning. Fine if she does, she is his responsibility. He can feed, cloth her etc and never receive another penny from the state for her upkeep. And if she or her ilk put a toe across the line he should face severe consequences and be punished alongside her. Very easy to demonstrate his virtue, but he knows he risks nothing by doing it.
@user-pd3gi3dx6m
@user-pd3gi3dx6m 5 ай бұрын
The labour party will let her become the speaker of the house if labour gets into power.
@Lucpol1986
@Lucpol1986 5 ай бұрын
She should never be let back in on multiple grounds. However, if she is, we will be paying the ‘security’ related costs for the rest of her life here in the UK… That is a shambles of the highest degree…
@acquiesce100
@acquiesce100 5 ай бұрын
The media's obsession with this women is so bizarre they won't be happy until she is allowed to come home. And I'm sure she will get a warm welcome with cake, balloons, prayers, sympathies. Honestly, this country is now a third world dump.
@jamesskeoch6562
@jamesskeoch6562 5 ай бұрын
The UK is NOT HER HOME SHE MADE A HOME WITH HER HUSBAND AND THREE CHILDREN ELSEWHERE BYE BYE JOG ON DISSAPPEAR.
@DiamondBlaze221
@DiamondBlaze221 5 ай бұрын
And no doubt protection from our uniforms too
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 5 ай бұрын
I'm just back from a day in London, and yes, you are correct, London is now an absolutely appalling third world dump.
@vordman
@vordman 5 ай бұрын
Labour Party: She was too young to know what she was doing. Also the Labour Party: Let's reduce the voting age to sixteen.
@johnwoodward4319
@johnwoodward4319 5 ай бұрын
Yes it shows the sheer stupidity of Labour and their supporters.
@heathercooper6043
@heathercooper6043 5 ай бұрын
Damn good point.
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 5 ай бұрын
There are many in the LP who, while whining about Begum being too young to know what she was doing, believe that children even younger can consent to life-changing medical intervention if they've been groomed into thinking they were born in the wrong body.
@sebastiennesp1978
@sebastiennesp1978 5 ай бұрын
Jeez, very good point.
@Steve-ho4xb
@Steve-ho4xb 5 ай бұрын
That's the dum ahrsed liebour party for ya!!
@planzed.2
@planzed.2 5 ай бұрын
I’ve lost empathy for these peaceful ones, it’s a relationship forced on us but one that’s exactly like a relationship with a narcissistic abuser, only they never love bombed us, they went straight to gaslighting
@kofiafrikan1236
@kofiafrikan1236 5 ай бұрын
The law of the land should take effect, and they should follow international law. If she is guilty then why can't she be on trial here and sentenced as British. She is British isn't she.
@lesleyhogg2495
@lesleyhogg2495 5 ай бұрын
Of course Mr. Khan is there talking about citizenship!!!! Completely ignore what Andrew has said about his experience of Begum.
@yvonnesanders4308
@yvonnesanders4308 5 ай бұрын
Character witness statement.
@greigsanderson
@greigsanderson 5 ай бұрын
Letter box
@MarcoNegrisEye
@MarcoNegrisEye 5 ай бұрын
Letter b om b...have to write it in such a way as those big bad words are terrifying 🤡😂
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 5 ай бұрын
She's very manipulative and self-serving. No one really knows what she's capable of. There are over 50 Muslim countries for her to start over in. She'll find a rich older sugar daddy!🐪🐫
@trytellingthetruth.2068
@trytellingthetruth.2068 5 ай бұрын
She'll be back via the back door, and by the time the public finds out, she won't be able to be removed.
@Bentlyxox
@Bentlyxox 5 ай бұрын
Well that lawyer SHOULD care about the specific cases, we're talking about a person who left to join ISIS for crying out loud. We don't owe her anything, we already gave her everything that her native country wouldn't and she threw it back in our faces.
@kevinbillington9773
@kevinbillington9773 5 ай бұрын
Of course, he says to take her to court, with crimes in a foreign land. Any evidence will be covered under national security. So it won't be heard by a jury. She would walk out scot free which is the perfect outcome for this lawyer.
@user-ll1rr5ld2g
@user-ll1rr5ld2g 5 ай бұрын
Criminals look after Criminals 👎
@danielcraig4974
@danielcraig4974 5 ай бұрын
Talk TV want Shamina to do the 1pm to 4pm shifts on Saturday and Sunday.
@listener-md
@listener-md 5 ай бұрын
No law should exist other than the legal system of that country, it’s absolutely ridiculous to consider anything else. It is bad enough for English law to allow people to be treated differently which can only end one way.
@zosmanovic9763
@zosmanovic9763 5 ай бұрын
As a Muslim, dont.
@Sthmohtwenty
@Sthmohtwenty 5 ай бұрын
U ent no Muslim...u a so cal one
@MarcoNegrisEye
@MarcoNegrisEye 5 ай бұрын
Nowadays the picture on the left looks more "British" than the picture on the right 😏...
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 5 ай бұрын
Lets be honest, she will be let back in and the same people that complained will ALL buy her book. Because most of my fellow Brits aren't very good at joined-up thinking!
@You.are.boring.me.now2024
@You.are.boring.me.now2024 5 ай бұрын
Muslim Human rights lawyers should only ever operate in places that agree with the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam and that is not the UK
@ruthcarter1360
@ruthcarter1360 5 ай бұрын
Imagine these women's fate under Arab law, despicable 🇮🇱💯🇮🇱🇮🇱
@ruthcarter1360
@ruthcarter1360 5 ай бұрын
@@adamjames2332 🥯🥯🥯
@aitchellarmoire9944
@aitchellarmoire9944 5 ай бұрын
That lawyer is rather partisan. Plus, one minute he says that the law is that she should not have her citizenship revoked as she was a child, the next minute he is saying the law is wrong. Some lawyer!
@amandasmith749
@amandasmith749 5 ай бұрын
Thought she had already. Dont let her back
@caz92884
@caz92884 5 ай бұрын
What part of “We don’t want you here” doesn’t she understand. 😡
@trudytse1725
@trudytse1725 5 ай бұрын
Cold and calus wants freedom and liberty while it suits her
@nigeisfree7837
@nigeisfree7837 5 ай бұрын
Can we all go back to English Scottish welsh and irish and everyone else who are duel passport holders are british we are losing our identity as a country time to stop anyone with duel citizenship running for any positions of power in our country we need people who are loyal patriotic and care for the people first before any other countries citizens we pay taxes to make our country better not to fund other countries invasion of our nation
@mybackup8696
@mybackup8696 5 ай бұрын
I imagine Hoyle is working on letting her back in
@thewoodster8607
@thewoodster8607 5 ай бұрын
I particularly like that her supporters constantly state she has been groomed but never produce a shred of evidence. We are all just supposed to go along with the Groupthink mentality that 15 year olds aren't responsible for their behaviour. 15 year olds are held to account in our courts every day.
@swn-rg2qg
@swn-rg2qg 5 ай бұрын
Andrew described quite well some characters that I experienced in most of mulism people. They're "smart" and tend to take advantages of others. The lawer just cannot understand that this is about prevention of contigent/future risk, not about punishment.
@user-te9kh9gz2q
@user-te9kh9gz2q 5 ай бұрын
Keep her out & the lawyer should go with her 😊
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766 5 ай бұрын
Well she was 15 and the men returned so I’m quite certain she’ll be back as well. They held out this long because she was infamous and as soon as she can be gifted back to the squad she will be.
@faithless602
@faithless602 5 ай бұрын
if she was old enough to buy a ticket on a plane and just go to a strange place to live she is old enough to know what she is doing
@StraightouttaBristol
@StraightouttaBristol 5 ай бұрын
Foreigners complaining about OUR laws and justice system.. Unfkinbelievably sick
@stevien3880
@stevien3880 5 ай бұрын
She is well placed to become rich through book sales and as the darling of the Left and let us pray the Church will become a member of the House of Lords within our lifetimes. I hope I am wrong about the above but I don't think I am.
@Talk4UK
@Talk4UK 5 ай бұрын
A 15 year old is not a child, is a young woman. She knows fully well what she is doing and what she wants to do. Don't patronize people.
@Sthmohtwenty
@Sthmohtwenty 5 ай бұрын
So uk law don't changed it to 15 ,,,2 b an adult
@Talk4UK
@Talk4UK 5 ай бұрын
@@Sthmohtwenty I am not talking about the Law, I am talking about humans, real life. I think that even a 5 year old would have a good understanding of what she has done. What she wants is to suffer no consequence for her actions. It seems was how she was brought up.
@joannamillan8882
@joannamillan8882 5 ай бұрын
Well they get married at 10 years old
@mukhtarali8778
@mukhtarali8778 5 ай бұрын
wow that is low if your don't like it change it if its was rape case what you will say she is 15 , there is reason this country has low your opinion don't make her young or old
@Talk4UK
@Talk4UK 5 ай бұрын
@@mukhtarali8778 It is not low nor high. At the age of 15 you are not a child, full stop.
@kathrynschierloh7358
@kathrynschierloh7358 5 ай бұрын
Andrew’s first-hand contact and knowledge of this woman is much more convincing and necessary to know, then the Lawyer’s talk about the law, when he has never met her.
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