Shane Dawson's Dangerously STUPID Theory Videos

[@Arthur-dg1go]

Pinely doing more research in one video than Shane has ever done in his entire career

[@genericname8727]

Not exactly difficult to achieve but we respect Pinely’s research regardless

[@Arthur-dg1go]

@@genericname8727 the whole point of my comment tbf 😉 shit on Dawson and praise Pinely who genuinely does a great job with his vids

[@blt812]

hello😭 I'm having financial difficulties this month, can you send me some money just for once?

[@genericname8727]

@@blt812 stop trying to scam people.

[@bmiller7419]

For real! I can’t believe I ever used to watch that crap. I didn’t believe any of it, I just thought it was entertaining. But now that I know how some of those « theories » hurt people, I’m disgusted

[@annamittal8319]

It’s spooky how much I want to see more of Pinely debunking Shane’s nonsensical, fear mongering theories

[@Tensolin01]

Theory’s aren’t facts you know.

[@Birdyboys]

@@Tensolin01 he treats it as such though

[@Tensolin01]

@@Birdyboys So it’s a “fact” because of how he says it? Interesting way of seeing facts if you are stupid.

[@PixelHeroViish]

@@Tensolin01 Sadly there are people who present that kinda stuff as fact and viewers take it seriously, like back when MatPat made the "Link is dead" theory and people started spreading it as canon

[@cookiemonsta633]

same

[@timmy841212]

Shane was constantly changing himself whenever people got sick of him so he can find new fans.

[@mysweettsumelody]

Yikes 😬

[@greentaigo2552]

I mean to be fair he's been around for a while and since his old sketch comedy days sketch comedy has become a niche in KZbin and its kind of hard to become popular unless you're really good or have a really distinct style like Gus Johnson or Joel Haver so it is understandable he'd change up his content. I much prefer that over Onision who is now like 35 and still makes content like he's a 20 something year old on youtube in 2005.

[@carolinam1573]

@@greentaigo2552 agreed. It is sometimes necessary to remain relevant

[@Gugunet26]

Ikr, he had multiple phases: The "dark humor" phase, the food videos phase, the conspiracy theory phase, the vlog phase and the """documentary""" phase

[@timmy841212]

@@Gugunet26 Right. Hard to figure who's the "real" Shane Dawson.

[@meganhash7840]

Shane Dawson: *talking about a spooooky conspiracy about "leaders controlling the media/society"* Me, a Jew: I think I've seen this one before

[@ddjsoyenby]

me too............it doesn't end up well for you tbh.

[@jacquelinewithac8668]

As Taylor swift said “I’ve seen this movie before and I didn’t like the ending”

[@himetsu7594]

Same with Polish people

[@meganhash7840]

@@himetsu7594 Jewish people 🤝 Polish People This BS

[@erincurrie1560]

@@meganhash7840 though, as a polish person, jewish people are wayyyyyy more likely to be targetted

[@crabtoes2210]

i know it is trivial out of everything he's ever done, but something about the fact that sh*ne tried outing dan and phil YEARS before they were ready when he himself knew what it was like being in the public eye and also being closeted just really doesn't sit well with me. also when he basically went "uwu maybe 9/11 was fake lol" and just moved on. that one also doesnt sit right

[@kzzbtt]

When did he try outing them?

[@sixfeetundertheradar6080]

@@kzzbtt once with the psychic twins I think

[@noone3305]

jai kussrow he also read a ton of graphic fanfiction of them on his channel and overall was pretty open about the fact that he shipped them. if he was some random small niche channel maybe that’d be one thing, but he’s one of the largest channels on youtube who’s met them personally which makes it super weird and invasive of their privacy.

[@annie3423]

what REALLY doesn’t sit w me is his seemingly compulsive need to diagnose people with socio/psychopathy/narcissism. In reality these diseases are quite rare and it takes a true professional to accurately diagnose someone with those MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS’S

[@mechanomics2649]

@@annie3423 It's okay because he's an empath.

[@frog_9354]

I like how Shane tried to change his voice to make it sound more spooky and exciting but then the camera angle ruins any possible affect

[@baeregard]

like, why is he so close to the camera-

[@StrawberryMatchaTea]

Ikrrr like he’s such a big KZbinr he should know how to create these effects

[@crouchingidiot]

idk man shane dawson staring into your souls with his huge big eyes is pretty scary ngl

[@angelman906]

@@crouchingidiot maybe if you’re a kid (and I mean children should be genuinely afraid of this guy.

[@crouchingidiot]

@@angelman906 i’m not a minor and it was a joke but children should definitely be afraid of this man

[@Roundthebendupthecreek]

Boy, it sure is spooky how little Shane thinks of the consequences before opening his mouth.

[@ddjsoyenby]

that's how he got caught being a i can't say but it rhymes with schmedomile.

[@rotting.remains]

The only consequence he had in mind was making money off of impressionable teenagers lol

[@ItsNicoleAnderson]

@@rotting.remains true now we all hate him

[@mathematics117]

ONe thing I can't stand is how out of context all the "predicting 9/11" crap is. The Towers were targets of a bombing attack in the early 1990s, so it made sense that things at the time would reference that attack. The fact that another attack happened was not predicting anything >_

[@gracekim1998]

Hmm 🤔 I actually didn’t know that put just the 9/11 part but it makes more sense that the shit Shane was rambling about 😅

[@ElinWinblad]

The weird part I think is the morning of bush is at that school and the kids before he reads are made to repeat words on the board such as “plane “ “hit” etc 😅

[@sarahlaurent62]

@@ElinWinblad Can I see the video?

[@ElinWinblad]

@@sarahlaurent62 kite steel hit plane kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJiYf6mBpa-Zgac

[@sarahlaurent62]

@@ElinWinblad They're saying playing kite steel must" (the words written on the board) not plane or hit. How are you worst at reading than six year olds?

[@FarelForever]

"They put this into cartoons, so people get used to the idea, and wouldn't lose their minds when it actually happened" Me: Well, then I wouldn't say it was very effective now, was it?

[@Pinely]

CLOWN SMASH

[@milktea6676]

I’m scared father

[@razzle8140]

Shame Dawson

[@goober4135]

9 hours ago

[@Imaniluv3]

CLOWN SMASH

[@owcfc9072]

Yes 9 hours before the video came out

[@KaelWrit]

People's willingness to just believe whatever kinda is spoooky. I would definitely like to see this become a series!

[@Hiikaa69]

Did you just say the racial slur spook? Racist. I’m just kidding! I wanted to mess with you when you said that because you are right!

[@hayleycakes3435]

Kids dude, kids. 14 year olds are the worst about it too.

[@nellyb1594]

@@Hiikaa69 Hmmm....funny are we? Eh?!

[@Savvy.]

@@hayleycakes3435 I really wish that were true, but more and more adults have been exposing their ignorance. The last US election and pandemic have shown us just how many people can so easily be convinced of actual insanity.

[@foxtech543]

@@hayleycakes3435 it's of all ages, anyone can be filled with ignorant bliss. We already know it's not impossible for grown ups do be dumb

[@nootnoot4244]

CONSPIRACY THEORY: mr youtuber is actually pinely 😳

[@channelhasbeenmoved639]

That makes no fucking sense.

[@peemis3017]

Thats spooky

[@Bananachan289]

... unless? ☺️

[@slayyourday1548]

Proof?

[@randomtinypotatocried]

Sounds like fake news

[@uselessDM]

The whole thing doesn't even make sense in itself, since when "The Event" happened, nobody was prepared for it or took it lightly. It makes more sense to argue that all the war movies that exist primed the public to be willing to go to war at any given time.

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

It's even backed by evidence, the DOD isnt just funding movies like Captain America and The Avengers for fun.

[@Joviaero]

@@stardoogalaxie9314 the messages of the MCU films are pretty anti-war and anti-government, there's just a legal cause where you can't snow anything military in Hollywood without getting funding from them

[@mechanomics2649]

@Dilbot Okay, but the messaging of the movies are still anti-war so I'm not sure what your point is.

[@rebekahmccann6429]

I'm so glad people are talking about this now. When I was a teenager I used to be a fan of Shane's conspiracy videos and, even though I didn't realise it at the time, it definitely affected my thinking and I went down a bit of a rabbit hole, which I only escaped after I stopped watching his content. It gave me such a warped view of the world that wasn't based in reality at all, and like you said, I'm certain that if I didn't get out of that mindset I would've gone down a much darker path

[@nothnkyou]

The videos are like not even three years old? So you’re still a teenager? Or at least it can’t be that long ago that you believed in that stuff

[@doperagu8471]

@@nothnkyou a lot can change in 3 years, especially when you're a teenager and still learning and growing and figuring out who you are. Imagine how much you changed from say 13-18. It's a huge difference.

[@mothmadi_]

i used to always watch his theory videos but i thankfully have a super skeptical outlook on theories n stuff so i wasnt heavily affected by the content. sucks that you went through that though.

[@bunny23275]

@@nothnkyou I was like 13 when I started watching him and I believed everything he did and that he could do no wrong. I was so stupid back then, I’m so glad I don’t support him now and that I’m old enough to know that he was manipulating his fans. Like yeah, I go back and watch his videos, not out of enjoyment but to see when he was a shitty person and wonder why I supported him

[@sirfuttbucker6067]

Nothing wrong with being inquisitive or skeptical, it's healthy to to look into whatever you're worried about. It's when you believe it and become obsessed, damning anyone who is too 'stupid' to see the 'truth'

[@genericname8727]

I think my comment may have been automatically deleted because it was assumed I was promoting ideas I was actually against. Basically, Shane has a history of getting his conspiracy theories from dangerous sources that promote dangerous ideas except he’d use more dog whistles within his own content. Dangerous for anyone who looked further into the topics he promoted. There’s a particular example that comes to mind but I don’t think I’ll be allowed to describe it in the KZbin comment section. He also made multiple “conspiracy theory” videos apparently trying to out Dan and Phil, which he’d conclude by accusing them of qu*erbaiting (they’ve both since come out). So there’s that..

[@lildeer8038]

I used to actually believe Shane when I was a kid, its so embarrassing to look back on

[@MrHendrix17]

The conspiracy theories were what really put me off Shane, the way he constantly took things at face value and treated the wildest things as truth while having such a loyal impressionable audience was so concerning, especially when he was talking about real life deaths. The irony of him talking about how there are powers trying to brainwash people while actively spreading poorly researched misinformation has only become more tragic now that we've seen the impact of misinformation with regards to things like the Covid pandemic and white nationalism and the millions of lives that suffer as a result

[@Tensolin01]

But at the same time, when did he ever present any “Theory” (important word btw) as a fact? Theory’s aren’t facts. You don’t need to believe it, if you aren’t stupid. Stupid people deserve to think stupid things are real. It’s part of natural selection.

[@justinwatson1510]

There are companies trying to manipulate us; we call them advertisers and the tech giants are spending a lot of money researching how to get us to respond positively to internet ads.

[@doperagu8471]

@@Tensolin01 yeah but when those "stupid people" are just kids who haven't developed proper skills in critical thinking and would be inclined to believe someone they idolize, i.e. his entire audience... then yeah it becomes dangerous to spread this kind of misinformation like it's fact. As was said in this video, 9/11 "trutherism" is often a gateway into much more dangerous conspiracy thinking, with much realer consequences - like white nationalism for example. Giving young kids essentially the tools to start down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories isn't a responsible use of a platform of Shane's size.

[@Tensolin01]

@@doperagu8471 Still not sure how it magically makes a theory a fact. Because it doesn’t, regardless of who believes it.

[@bunny23275]

As an old Shane fan, I hate how stupid and naive I was and believed everything he said. I supported him through everything up until the Breaking My Silence video came out. I’m 16 now and it’s a slap in the face that I believed everything he said. I believed a lot of his conspiracies because I trusted him and now I feel stupid. Obviously as a young teen when I supported him I didn’t see the need to look things up and check his facts cause I believed he wouldn’t lie. I’m glad I don’t support him anymore and I hate that I bought his makeup pallet. If he comes back (and let’s hope he doesn’t), I’m not going to support him anymore

[@JCMProductions]

Couldn’t the poster in “Johnny Bravo” be an homage to movies like “Towering Inferno” or “Die Hard”

[@mattguy1773]

Wtf

[@mechanomics2649]

@@mattguy1773 What don't you understand?

[@themusicaljunkie37]

I bet you... Shane is one of the people who think that the Simpsons predicted the future....

[@theweirdestsmartchannel1842]

As someone who used to watch these you would be right

[@Kelvin5378]

Yes... yes he is

[@StrangerOnTheWeb]

But they do predict the future, maybe not completely accurately, but they have predicted some things

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@StrangerOnTheWeb what things have they predicted?

[@StrangerOnTheWeb]

@@ashikjaman1940 trump becoming president, higgs boson particle theory

[@clev7989]

I'm not Jewish, but rather autistic, and I can also attest to conspiracy theories being harmful to our community as well.

[@ollieno971]

Wait I’m autistic too what do you mean by that?

[@ollieno971]

Not saying your wrong btw I’m just curious bc iv never really heard that before !

[@clev7989]

@@ollieno971 when I wrote this comment I was primarily thinking about anti vaxxers (who often demonize those with autism) as well as mental health conspiracy theories, in particular ones about how autism "doesn't exist" or it's "an epidemic"

[@clev7989]

@@ollieno971 I actually know people who are effected by such conspiracy theories.

[@user-jb1mb5xh9t]

a lot of the awful views held by anti-vaxxers and medical conspiracy theorists paint having mental/ physical disabilities as something which a) doctors can somehow create and alter as if many aren't the result of just how people are born and b) the absolute worst case scenario. Becky from Alabama would rather her kid dies of meningitis than risk the vaccine somehow melting her sons brain and make him autistic, DUH!

[@jonfwy]

I used to binge watch the theory videos

[@angello.o9]

Same, I was young but thankfully stopped watching his content :)

[@nalgasasadas2232]

me too💀

[@samspotz8r8s]

So I used to watch him as mindless entertainment to play in the background. At the time, it was all too stupid to believe, so I never thought critically about anything. But 2020 opened my eyes to how vulnerable people can become to dangerous conspiracies. With the right conditions, people can believe anything. At the end of the day, the dude can post whatever he wants. But I'm glad the wider consciousness around him has changed. I'm glad his audience has either left him as I did, or now consume his shit way more critically

[@danielshore1457]

Honestky I think 2020 and 2021 has really brought into the light how dangerous conspiracy theories can be from the coronavirus to vaccines to the attack on the American capital which was essentially an attempted coup

[@Bananachan289]

Very well said. I lost a friend to covid conspiracy theories because I got vaccinated. She reposts conspiracy based stuff nearly every 30 minutes, I’m so worried about her

[@angelman906]

Yep, with the *RIGHT* conditions.

[@carnuatus]

Doesn't help that most of his viewers, esp now, ARE CHILDREN.

[@Tensolin01]

The problem is people don’t understand that theories aren’t facts.

[@LezbeOswald]

shane really cited a guy who believes in those antisemitic reptilian overlord theories and didn't think he was making a mistake at any point, huh? the "theories" in his videos aren't spooky; he's just repeating misinformation with no hint of skepticism or critical thinking.

[@luci4186]

@@crystal-sky are u joking?

[@kookiekracie]

I was a young teen when I watched his yt videos and was a huge fan of the conspiracy ones. I suffer from an anxiety disorder so the videos started to make me even more anxious and borderline paranoid about everything. I stopped drinking water that wasn't from water bottles for years. Literal years because he one time mentioned a fluoride conspiracy theory. I was going through other stuff that just ran up my paranoia and I do think that those videos contributed to why I take meds now. I am absolutely serious when I say that I never want to see this man on this platform ever again.

[@rkthecharacter4649]

I am really sorry about what happened to you. Just goes to show that creatures need to be more considered about the things that they post. I used to love Shane and this kind of content but if there are resulting in people in you situation I think this more that enough reason to be stopped or at least be given more serious disclaimers

[@3arthandsky]

@@rkthecharacter4649 he did give disclaimers at the beginning of his videos because he didn't want to be sued plus the water that comes from the city isn't as clean as you think thats why you need a really good filter. What i didn't like is that some of the theories were old news. Wish he covered newer ones or less heard of.

[@tommywiseau3976]

I used to love Shane's conspiracy videos when I was, like 15. I guess I just loved the spooooky tales.

[@3arthandsky]

I think that was his goal. Don't know why people are taking it seriously.

[@lukisluvsjesuschrist6505]

@@3arthandsky i agree

[@Piaapo]

I think you just had good enough media reading skills to not get affected by them. I knew all the theories were ridiculous, I just loved entertaining the thought of how easily you can make them sound logical. I didn't realize how many actually believed them.

[@3arthandsky]

@@Piaapo a ridiculous amount of shane theories were about celebrities.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

My favorite part about 9/11 "predictions" is all these people who apparently don't know that the Twin Towers got bombed in the early 90s, I believe it was, so some of these show's "predictions" are actually just referencing that thing that already happened. (Related, some of the "Simpsons predicted Trump running for president! :O" shit is a reference to him ALREADY running for president in like 2000)

[@ruthie8785]

I doubt they know or remember the OKC bombing either.

[@h00dles33]

Your commitment to analyzing literally Shane Dawson’s entire career is so commendable. I always love your Shane videos.

[@nia7823]

i just know that if shane dawson was making videos now he’d have made a covid vaccine conspiracy

[@404-x8v]

agreed

[@Fandomsaremylifee]

As a Jew, I agree with the statement that believing in dumb nonsense can lead to dangerous results. Especially when an authority figure is telling you about it. “spooooooky”

[@Mrs.Self.Distruct]

How he was, and even now after all the dispicable shit is still popular that he remains having a large fanbase will never cease to amaze and mostly disgust me 😐

[@europianbob]

I havent seen anyone say..."I love Shane" Not anyone.

[@neutrallynonsensical3477]

@@europianbob look at his Insta comments section, full of people begging him to come back and telling him they love & miss him..

[@Kelvin5378]

They probably either do the same dispicable things Shane did or they are under age children that don't know any better / understand

[@SniffyTugBoat]

"The mountain comes to Manhatten" combined with the visuals is actually a p good ad. the whispy clouds around the towers and the plane flying nearby indicates that these buildings would be as tall as mountains, which would've been a wild concept to have in the heart of Manhattan at the time. good ad, bad take by Shane.

[@hfreddy127]

Even though I didn’t believe a word he said, it was soooo entertaining to watch.

[@MsHildur90]

If we got so desenceticed to towers exploding, how come I remember sitting in Norway crying at school because of World Trade Center? Stuff like Shanes videos make me so angry

[@joshjohnson3442]

Does making himself look and sound like he’s going to cry when he says “children’s TV show” make him think he’ll be believed more? 😆

[@gracekim1998]

Mmm maybe HE thinks that🤷‍♀️ we will never know

[@starvalentine2956]

I feel like if all that stuff about him never resurfaced, Shane would have probably made one of those conspiracy theories videos about Q-Anon.

[@minimum6183]

pinely single handedly keeping down Shane Dawson's return

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

He already came back

[@europianbob]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Huh? I havent seen him anywhere.

[@quester09]

thanks, pinely.

[@_namasteshay]

I’d say Nick Diramio is helping as well! He’s very funny and has the best clap backs at Shane lol.

[@mikeykitty1235]

Here's my explanation for why cartoons seem to "predict" the future: The real world is running out of ideas and just imitates fiction.

[@madikendrick6419]

my biggest flex was that I was never a fan or even watched any of his videos

[@echilcote4235]

Lucky

[@MysteriousKammm]

The thing is, that in those kind of videos (about conspiracies) people will often shove as much arguments in your face as they can. So you dont have time to think about each of them individually so you just end up with the feeling that a video, with _so much arguments_ cannot possibly be wrong. Mix that with some cognitive bias and you might end up "in the rabbit hole". So its great that you took the time to demolish those argunents individually.

[@pinkcashmeres]

To add, the Twin Towers were attacked in 1993 too. I doubt the animators of that cartoon had enough psychic powers to predict the 2nd attack in 2001.

[@lelluc]

I love how he even used the popular spanish children's comic at 13:10 to prove his point, ah yes someone is also going to cook a giant sausage on the statue of liberty soon...

[@mechanomics2649]

I mean, I am so he's not wrong.

[@solarfirecircusproductions]

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Pinely's existence was predicted by Disney!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯👽👽🙊🙊

[@llewelynshingler2173]

Na... NAAAAANIIIIII?!

[@PlayerUnoYT]

I'm sure Shane thinks "The Towering Inferno" is a movie predicting the 9/11.

[@mechanomics2649]

I'm sure Shane thinks a toddler carelessly knocking over a tower of blocks predicted 9/11.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

"How do you know the name of my prophetic dream?" ~ Homer Simpson

[@ZillyWhale]

I want more spooky Shane Dawson telling us about spooky theories being watched by a not so spooky Pinely.

[@gallium4393]

You know it’s a good day when pinely uploads

[@toganium4175]

I guess he felt like he had to change his content because people started to hate him.

[@fortunatecookie]

TV: shows the twin towers because they’re a big thing in a very culturally important city in America The people who did the 11th of the 9th incident: deliberately targeted big things in culturally important places to make a statement Conspiracy theorists: hOw DiD tHeY pReDiCt ThiS????!??!!

[@kwarra-an]

The Sopranos intro predicted 9/11!

[@justinwatson1510]

When he said predictive programming in the beginning, I was shocked that Shane was aware of surveillance capitalism and wondered why you had a problem with it. I’m far less shocked now, but more certain that KZbin’s board of directors belong in prison for crimes against humanity.

[@NolanAlighieri]

Those conspiracy videos make me feel the same irrational anger as clickbait articles that use a nebulous term such as "scientist" implying literally EVERY scientists are agreeing about some new whackass thing. "Scientists Say Drinking Orange Juice Will Not Just Prevent Cancer, But utterly Destroy It in 1-on-1 Arena Combat" also I feel an irrational discomfort with how close Shane sits to the camera.

[@roxassora2706]

Another example would be those "Don't eat this fruit to lose weight" ads. Like you show a fruit that has a lot of things that a lot of people may need and you're demonizing it?

[@EngineMashups]

Man you shouldn’t be afraid to say exactly what you’re thinking when it comes to this stuff because it is serious - I know what you mean when you say ‘another stupid thing, and another’, but some people might not, and it’s better if you just say that yes, some of these theories reach the ‘anti-Semitic point of no return’ quite quickly There are some interesting articles out there that talk about the actual danger of conspiracy theories, particularly right wing ones, which tend to focus on the idea that there is a group of hyper-competent individuals running things behind the scenes Idk I just have seen people reach dangerous places with this kind of stuff and it definitely never sat right with me that Shane just dabbled in it like it was just an interesting little side thing rather than a huge thing that actually ruins people’s lives

[@Pinely]

Yeah its just my fear of getting demonetized lol

[@EngineMashups]

@@Pinely ah fair enough one has to appease the KZbin algorithm gods

[@cindyflodeen1323]

I hate conspiracy theories like there’s this bad one that says Mr. KZbinr and pinely are the same smh

[@ddjsoyenby]

yes that is the wor......... *remembers all those ant1s3m1t1c ones* .........ok one of the worst ones but not as bad as those ones.

[@barbieblinging4851]

when i was young i heard so many other people parrot these sorts of things and didnt think too much about it until i got a bit older then i saw all the horrible ways of thinking it can drag you down into. im so glad i never fell down that hole bc the type of rhetorics that get spread around are so dangerous

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

As someone who watched the Tick growing up, I must inform you that the city the show takes place in is not New York but is actually called The City. Check Make Athiest.

[@Lixxie612]

The only thing that actually made me feel creeped out was when he said that Johnny Bravo episode came out a few months before 9/11, but like, that doesn’t mean anything. It’s only one building anyway.

[@youtubesfavoriteidot7714]

I remember I saw a fairly odd parents theory from him that said he was apart of the illumaniti His "evendince" was that "his author ego was timmy triangle" even though that was one episode

[@emmyhenry1]

Some of the old folks, like me, may remember that the X-Files had a spin-off comedy series (I am completely serious, this was a real thing) following the adventures of Langly, Frohike, and Byers from the original series. In March 2001 they aired an episode that depicted very similar happenings to "the Event" and I am always pissed when no one references it in their "predictive programming" compilations (because it was a great series that deserved more attention, not because I believe in pp).

[@mechanomics2649]

I don't remember this at all and I have no idea why.

[@ahniandfriends123]

Too late, conspiracy theorists have already included the episode in their "predictive programming" compilations.

[@Koselill]

He is playing into the stuff more which could make it more believable to other ppl. If he just reported on them and said like "wow, could you imagine if that was true??" then it wouldnt have been so bad..

[@carnuatus]

He did that in the beginning, I think. Or just covered old events and creepy things on TV. Then things took a turn.

[@tylerunderground]

pinely, your brain was beautiful before it broke it half

[@jadedlaneyoutube]

I’d highly recommend Captain Disillusion’s video “The Undebunkable” to anyone in the comments here! The moral of it is basically “trusting everything you see if dangerous, but so is being too skeptical”. Also CD’s channel in general is just incredible

[@AllLifeIsTravesty]

Not even going into how legitimately dangerous people putting real faith in conspiracy theories has become recently (as you rightly pointed out) --many of these conspiracy are just _boring._ The Nazis stealing the Ark of the Covenant or the Holy Grail, the Spear of Destiny being used to bring about the Apocalypse, the Necronomicon summoning Cthulhu, those are at least *fun* ideas that make for enjoyable stories. But these ones about kids cartoons and recycled pizza and Bigfoot? They're lame, pointless, and uninteresting. "Ooooo, some hairy guy in the woods, ooooo maybe they had a _naughty joke_ in one frame of a cartoon, oooooo pizza slices look funny!" And as for the 9/11 "truther" theories and reptilians ruling the world, well it's basically a precursor to all the violent QAnoners we're now dealing with and a lot of times is just a mask for other racial/ethnic/national/religious hatred.

[@queendiamond770]

I honestly love cryptids videos even if I know they're fake, the idea of monsters haunting places is cool :) and the bad quality pictures add a lot to it. Plus stuff like Cthulhu and the Necronomicon are not theories, it's dark fantasy narrative Edit: stupid typo

[@Raymo2u]

"violent QAnoners" Could you please show examples of these violent people doing violent things? I have seen very few Qanons doing anything other than sit online or where clothing showing "qanon", I dont follow the mindless bunch but you cant just label a group of people violent without repeated actions that are violent....even if you disagree with them and despise them.

[@therealhecatonchires]

​@@Raymo2u There was a Qanon believer that murdered his own children because he claimed they had serpentine DNA. His name is Matthew Taylor Coleman if you want to learn more.

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

@@Raymo2u didnt those Qanoners try to overthrow the Government??? With the express purpose of hurting and executing people in the senate? That happened in January, of this year.

[@vaibh4vi]

@@yourdad6236 i mean cops were hurt and died and property was destoryed … there was also like a whole noose/gallows set up in front of the capitol so i wouldn’t put it past the rioters

[@gracekim1998]

Honestly it would be cool to see you cover more of his crazy conspiracies 🤷‍♀️

[@cookiemonsta633]

i agree

[@maxlee6454]

fun fact: these videos are INCREDIBLY dangerous for mentally ill people, i struggle with psychosis bc of various mental illnesses and i found shanes conspiracy videos maybe a year or two before i was diagnosed and put on meds, the period that came afterwards was a blur, i was so paranoid and scared people were watching me, every song and tv show had secret subliminal messages, the government was gonna get me for knowing these things, etc. It was extremely damaging on my overall life

[@adrienneczerni6516]

Yeah intrusive thoughts also suck with things like that. Sorry you went through what you did

[@mj-tn1qq]

how are you now?

[@emma-nz5ny]

predictive programming is a real thing in psychology (like when you get a bird to hit a button to get food, itll do it loads of times) of course "predictive programming" isnt the real term, however similar, and shane is WAY off.

[@celinepersonman6448]

This makes me so upset because as a kid I definitely believed the 9/11 conspiracy theories. Having seen a big KZbinr like Shane Dawson basically echoing my already held beliefs would have just solidified that as a kid 😭

[@lottevanderpaelt1684]

This was the most stupid theory I have ever heard in my life, and I read through the whole conspiracy theory iceberg, so yeah... I'd love to see more about these weird theory videos he made! :)

[@Annikakay15]

when my mom was a kid in the early 70s, she and my grandma would go into manhattan to shop all the time and my mom would look at the towers and go "mom, what would happen if they fell?" did my mom predict this event, shane? or did she have a thought about a big fixture falling over, like any other weirdo 5 year old would? also, that programming clearly didn't work bc people still lost their collective minds when it happened so i don't understand why he's trying to give this example as a "checkmate" like???? wow shane so spoooooooky, the CIA is quaking

[@honeybie170]

Oh my God, this reminds me of "psychics" that act like they're spirit mediums who can talk to your late loved ones by saying the most generic, vague things that could apply to anyone or anything. If your evidence is vague enough, of course you're going to see a connection. That doesn't mean a vague connection between two things makes them related. Buildings collapsing and exploding is just a generic trope used in action movies/shows to display the high stakes and danger of the plot. Also, isn't another part of this "predictive conditioning" or whatever saying they're putting these things in media to make us become okay with them? Because I think a vast majority of people can differentiate between fiction and reality. Just because we see a building exploding on a fictional tv show or in a movie doesn't mean we'd be fine with it happening in real life. I think most people would still be terrified of anything, especially a building, suddenly exploding or collapsing. There's no sound psychological basis for this "predictive conditioning." You put it perfectly, it's just some fear-mongering bullshit.

[@mendacium9209]

This was such a fascinating video. I've never personally watched any of Shane's spoooky videos but I want to see more of Pinely debunking Shane's excuse of videos

[@KissableStrawberry]

I always found those spoooky theory videos fun to watch when I was younger, and it's still fun to think what if these theories were real, but the way Shane portrays as if it's hidden knowledge and not a crack theory always kinda weirded me out

[@TheRealUnkn0wn_289]

So that's how he knew, they are true for the most part but don't go seeking for hidden knowledge, he was in the know, he's one of them like alex jones and such that's how they got to "gain access" to their secrets they didn't do investigations or research like some have

[@lanalisgo8946]

Nearing a year ago I went into a crisis thinking that I was in a simulation and the world around me wasnt real. I never really understood where it came from but this video made me realise that this may have contributed to it. I'm doing much better now and fully resent the man for those videos.

[@bluemoon32299]

I went through a similar thing and I'm glad you're doing better! I am too :)

[@catmerchant8699]

They're not even 'his' theories and he never adds his own perspectives or research. He literally steals them from online. Yet people were so in love with his series and didn't want it to stop?? I don't get it.

[@happyghostcrew]

I remember binge watching these videos 4 or 5 years ago now. I never believed any of them as far as I remember but they were entertaining. It was strange watching him fall from 'grace' in the past few years but it was entertaining while it lasted.

[@kyannajarvis]

Conspiracy theory: Pinely posts Mr KZbinr’s photos on Pinely’s Instagram because they’re identical twins with the same name versed

[@nutellatubby1943]

I feel embarrassed to know that when I was younger in 2018, I really believed all this as a 12 year old because he seemed so serious.

[@introvertedninja2237]

I don't particularly think you should become like a anti-conspiracy dunking channel, but I'm glad you uploaded this. It's important to highlight the disinformation Shane spread as "just a theory/joke."

[@Vintagesonic1]

Maybe like 3 or 4 years ago, when I was like 17 or 18, I binged watched all of Shane's conspiracy videos, as I found them really interesting. But what ended up happening is it absolutely destroyed my mental state for like a good year. Those video's made me so paranoid, I almost couldn't take it anymore.

[@NobodyssGirl]

Imagine youre a secret organization about to plot a bad thing. Do you: A. Keep all plans of this bad thing a secret at all costs B. Plant hints in random shows and cartoons years prior

[@user-vp8ec6cx2h]

Even though sometimes I watch some conspiracy theories videos, I completely agree that they can be dangerous and some are completely rooted in hateful ideas but people seem to not realize. Also I remember years ago watching Shane talk about the headless woman trope in one of his videos. Which how so many ads and movie posters have the body of a woman, generally a sexy one and they don't show her head/face and sometimes the lady is not even relevant. I thought he was going to talk about objectification or something like that, but he implied that maybe the Illuminati or whatever will cut the head off of women 🤠

[@bellakeksi8313]

You're willing to do more videos on this? I appreiciate your sacrifice for the betterment of humankind

[@ffs_]

9:00 Pretty sure the building on fire poster is referencing The Towering Inferno, which was a blockbuster in the 70s.

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

I remember avgn saying something about this that reason the two towers get destroyed in media so often is because it seemed absurd that that can happen

[@TheGrandSilence]

There is a Detective Conan episode called the twin towers where an artist tries to blow up two towers who ruined his view of Mt. Fuji and I swear that would have been a better example but instead he goes for Johnny Bravo background art

[@andievalentin]

when my cousins were toddlers they liked building tall towers using blocks and then smash them down either with their hands or because toy cars and planes crashed into them. did my cousins predict the attacks in september 2001? logically, no they didnt. but using shane logic they 100% did. so spooooky

[@Aetharn]

Honestly, I'm wondering what shane thinks about the Nostradamus """prediction""" (Nostradamus' predictions are vague as hell and not really accurate) that's associated with 9/11, cause if he believes the whole predictive programming stuff its gonna be hard to explain why the US government put that into pop culture in the 1500's. Especially since the US didn't even exist back then.

[@Diana-mu7pc]

Thanks for covering this. In my opinion the fact that he platformed, and didn't ENTIRELY delegitimize so many spooooky conspiracy theories, is no less harmful than his casual racism, sexism, sexualization of minors... all that disgusting shit that KZbin let him get away with in the early days before his softboy rebranding. For the reasons you stated in this one. The fact that the "reformed" Shane Dawson was giving visibility to blatant misinformation, even if he wasn't wholeheartedly agreeing with it, shouldn't be understated in his other reasons why he doesn't deserve to have a platform. More discussions on his awful conspiracy videos would be appreciated, because I feel like it doesn't get the volume of criticism it really deserves. The only reason to bring up these ideas at all is to debunk them, not to tell them as if they're a scary bedtime story and talk about how they gave you chills.

[@imalivelmao]

i was 14/15 when i started watching shane and let me tell you it ruined the way i view stuff, i believed almost everything he said coz as a 14 YEAR OLD what else was i supposed to do. i think his videos are the main reason i’m almost always paranoid

[@fionagranger4442]

this might have been in one of the deleted videos but i very distinctly remember him talking about the suspicious death of a young girl, and him discussing the theories on it. i think it came out in november 2017? basically the girl was found in a freezer at some hotel, and the police investigation was questionable, shane discussed some of the theories to try and i guess raise awareness on the case but looking back the way he did it was really sketchy and some of the theories he discussed were really disrespectful

[@TheRealUnkn0wn_289]

Sketchy and disrespectful for bringing light to a victim?

[@fionagranger4442]

@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 the way he talked about it was the sketchy part

[@Eggie173]

12:30 i think what shane meant to convey was that the buildings were so tall that planes could fly into them, like that's HOW tall they are. idk, great vid tho!

[@topickawallflower4730]

I always hated his "theories" and I have schizophrenia which makes me a lot more paranoid than the average person. I think I continued watching them because of his status as "King of KZbin". Thank God people are finally waking up

[@exmlou]

honestly those videos really fucked me up as a kid, i was around during the start of the series (probs like 2015, at 11 years old) and i ate that shit UPPPP without even realising how paranoid they were making me. remember those bullshit lizard theories? he made me believe that every single figure of power in my life (parents, teachers etc) were lizards and i was terrified all the time 💀 i’m 17 now and i can see how horrible and far-fetched they are. that man affected me and probably lots of other little kids too, it’s so scary looking in his comment sections and seeing children believing that crap :(

[@FUBARGunpla]

What kills me is that he acts as if those towers hadnt been attacked before 11/09, like its sone crazy government hoax, also that johnny bravo poster??... Towering inferno reference?!

[@bowierp]

all of his theories are rooted in antisemitism, racism, misogyny and just bullshit. it’s actually dangerous his fans believed this then and now, i’m so glad u called this out

[@adrienneczerni6516]

Ableism as well

[@cooraa]

I remember I was 16/17 years old when I binged through his more recent conspiracy videos. Me and a friend were so excited about new "episodes" and thought we were actually expanding our horizon and thinking "beyond" what popular media tells us. I'm so fucking glad I didn't fall down some weird rabbit hole that would've led me to belive Qanon shit or similar stuff. Especially the 9/11 theories he showed are so. fucking. dangerous. His audience is around 12-18 years old, most of them not knowing shit about history, science or the dangers of conspiratorial thinking. Hearing about "ground breaking" ideas and theories like that could very easily lead you down a dark path after doing some more "research". One moment you think you're smarter than anyone else who doesn't question the events of 9/11, the next moment you're out there listening to Alex Jones unironically.

[@TheFeelingOfC]

Sooo many KZbin kids NEED to see these videos, we grew up on that scary shit, I think I believed this stuff at one point, your work, your research is so important Pinley, THANK YOU!!

[@sleepisakura]

Hii it’s my birthday & this made me really happy to see 🥰

[@Pinely]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

[@roachcrumbs9139]

Happy birthday !!

[@ObtuseMori]

Happy birthday :)

[@manladan5929]

I’m glad you said this. People still praise his theory videos till this day

[@HobieInTheBox]

I started watching Shane when I was 14, specifically for these conspiracy theory videos. 💀 He is how I got into conspiracy theories. And while I do still like them, I don't easy fall for uber insane and damaging theories, like the ones he often produced. And I like them in moderation.

[@frootloopsbros]

I used to love Shane with all my heart when I was 14, and obsessed over his conspiracy videos and even used to spread these theories around to people at my school as if they were fact. I am now 18 and regret Everything, and I can’t believe I used to believe this manipulative bullsh^t. It really shows how absorbent and impressionable young minds truly are ,and how what the adults in this world tell them, sticks like glue. Be carful what you say to kids.

[@gabbyl3856]

Anyone else remember the video Shane did with his brother about flat-earth theories. Shane was too into it but I wasn't shocked

[@Anabórshën]

Lmfaooo, I was JUST thinking about it today. I was half awake and a wave of cringe hit me as I was thinking about my Shane Dawson fangirl days (don't judge me, I was 15-16 and new to the Internet). I was like "damn, some of his shit was ridiculous and stupid" and then this video popped up. Maybe big techs are reading our minds now 😰😰

[@gabbyl3856]

@@Anabórshën lol, we were all fangirls at one point. But for sure all his videos feel like a fever dream

[@justanormaldude42069]

The ad transition was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.

[@brinka7918]

The “yeah” is his “trust me bro”