Shane Dawson Was Very SHADY on this 2014 Reality Show (Directing "Not Cool" on The Chair)

[@taramarie128]

that moment where the woman is trying to tell Shane that they shouldn't name-drop Facebook too many times but he doesn't want to hear it, so he turns to the man behind her and says "do you understand what she's saying? no, I don't either" as though to position her as hysterical and illogical... just makes my skin crawl

[@-danny.]

There was something almost sexist about that, but then I remember he treated everyone like trash so yay equality I guess

[@sarahward8106]

I think what he said was sexist, but I think he insulted her the most bc she was the most vocal and provides the most feedback.

[@user-bs3io4vy1c]

That makes me sad... poor woman. Shane acted like he was a famous director. It’s actually good if you have criticism, and feedback. To know what you’re doing Wrong, right, what you need to fix etc;

[@highasduck5282]

@@sarahward8106 yeah, i agree. and it's sad cuz the reason why she felt most comfortable being vocal is cuz they were friends and podcasted together and stuff--glad she got away from him after. @_@;

[@socks1w]

Shane’s too much of a puss to pull that kind of attitude with an actual man. Maybe make his snotty comments to them but to actually talk to a guy like that? nah.

[@Rose_1549]

“Directors have never taken things out their movie” Ummm has he never heard of the directors cut

[@crowdemon_archives]

You'd think that being someone who's experienced with making skits and videos, he would know that people usually record a lot of things, and then trim and cut all the footage to make them coherent. 🤔

[@ssharkbait]

He was saying for an actor they don’t but that definitely isn’t true. Directors will do anything to have certain actors in their movies including cutting scenes or changing dialogue. But that just goes to show how truly ignorant Shane is when it comes to filmmaking.

[@NilooWonka]

I had a good chuckle over this comment. xD

[@Froppy727]

Burt C0caine Ik nothing about film-making but do director’s usually act in their own movies?

[@Froppy727]

Burt C0caine Nvm, it’s not that common.

[@thepandicorn3529]

Shane Dawson: "It's so hard to act like I care about these actors!" Also Shane: "I'm an EMPATH!"

[@lewislawrence1887]

☕️ tea

[@ohmahswirls]

General rule of thumb: if you call yourself an empath, you most likely aren't an empath💀

[@dedvhsu]

He's empathetic but without the first two alphabets.

[@zeldawomen]

ooof yes. dated an empath and they would make me feel bad....for feeling bad? like how does that work? If I'm sad and it make u feel tht emotion...ur gonna blame me for it?

[@dulceele2967]

He is a manipulator

[@Shoob-k5u]

Shane really wasn’t hearing the implied “actors would rather be flipping burgers than acting on your shitty movie”

[@indominuswrex9465]

This is itttt

[@flamemasterelan]

I mean, they definitely didn't want to work on his movie, but to say they were flipping burgers isn't fair. This is Pittsburg, not LA or New York. There isn't a big acting culture there, and most people who are acting in films aren't doing so as their main job. They specifically brought up a professor who's up for tenure...likely teaching something related to film. Other actors in the area are probably working in theater productions, or doing it as a passion in their off time. If they were out of work actors, or even just flipping burgers, Shane wouldn't have had such a hard time casting. But the level of desperation to get into acting just isn't there in Pittsburg.

[@hospitable_ghost]

@@flamemasterelanYou completely misunderstood the comment. All they were saying was that people would rather do literally any other job than work for Shane.

[@amberlawson7867]

the fact people thought he was racist, homophobic and just trash back then tells u alot

[@alexisaspy2429]

And people love to say “it was a different time” lol okay

[@alexsanchez5826]

amber lawson I don’t understand how the homophobic part works if he’s literally gay 💀

[@JM-fu6vy]

@@alexsanchez5826 just because he came out as bi years later doesn't mean his content wasn't full of homophobic jokes

[@ShieniLicksOnLemons]

@@alexsanchez5826 I'm pretty sure that he was in denial of being gay/bi because of his internalised homophobia back then... And even if he wasn't he was saying shit that is directly "confirming" the prejudices of homophobes which is detrimental to the LGBTAQ+ community.

[@alexsanchez5826]

J M but it’s not homophobic if your gay or bi. Just how it’s not racist to say the n-word if you’re black. (I don’t support him by the way but y’all dumb)

[@mrs.mendoza2171]

the red hair lady saying hes an awful human being, racist and homophobic was totally right.

[@_gremlinboy]

And just cause the homophobia's internal doesn't mean he's any less harmful about it

[@notyourmum7883]

ahead of her time

[@bellanthea]

​@@notyourmum7883 she wasn't ahead of her time; his audience at the time was too young to see how bad his content was, barely any reasonable adults watched him, and if they did, they would immediately see how terrible his channel was. honestly, I'm surprised he wasn't cancelled sooner

[@Jonqen]

She was crazy feminazi sjw

[@wedochallengsfornoreason2822]

She was aware 👏👏 when most of us 13 year old at the time were not

[@annam9602]

Shane’s behavior here basically proves that his sensitive softboy persona is just an act to garner sympathy. What a pathetic human.

[@starburst9053]

pretty harsh

[@victoriamalone6184]

Just like he pretends to be be poor CONSTANTLY like????

[@chellymurphy]

Like Ed Norton in Primal Fear 😂😂😂

[@jordanjordan3167]

Absolutely! I always had a bad feeling about him. Also, he has this super big victim complex, saying stuff like « i’m so poor » when dude lives in a freaking mansion

[@brixiex2580]

This!!

[@MattDelhauer]

Wait, you're telling me a woman who put in more time and effort, and was genuinely more talented lost a contest to a toxic man-child who cried and whined his way through half-assing a narcissistic vanity project? IN THE FILM BUSINESS?!

[@alexisd6106]

Its because all the fans of Shane voted for his film over hers. If he wasn't KZbin famous I bet people wouldn't have voted for him over her.

[@natasha8007]

@@alexisd6106 I think oc was a joke, but you’re right, she would have won if he was anonymous.

[@peanutbutter4435]

@@natasha8007 probably not tbh because his fans would recognize his trademark disgustingness immediately

[@lesliesackey2515]

@@peanutbutter4435 that was a read; well deserved but nonetheless shady 🖤

[@biomutant1468]

@@peanutbutter4435 yeah but not really, the film was shit not even his fans liked it, he had to go to the premieres to incentivize sales.

[@sarahbellum380]

2014 was not THAT long ago, people. Everyone’s acting like we’re talking about the 1800s.

[@pleaseenteraname-5451]

sarahbellum Exactly

[@Bree420]

This was probably a notch or three lower than the common "offensive" jokes back in 2014. But now that we see this again, with even higher standards.. uhh, Shaney, that's a bad look, man.

[@pcbassoon3892]

Yeah and he wasn't a teenager. He was in his mid-twenties. He and I are the same age and 6 years isn't that long ago to me.

[@loradreamer12]

Yeah and it's so weird that people are saying that this was the humor for 2014 like..??? I was a teen when this came out but even then I thought this movie was gross

[@Phoenixx1127]

Forreal

[@johnbaker95899]

It’s okay guys, a marriage counselor said he’s an empath so

[@linnycrocus6023]

Lmao are you talking about Kati

[@FleetTech97]

Loooooool I loved how he used her a “psychologist” for the Jake paul thing.

[@sanatoriumnugget6598]

He want help people

[@lils426]

LMAO and my absolute favorite part was when in the Jake Paul doc he talks with Kati about being empathic and he says that he “just wants to help people” and Kati says “that’s because you’re an empath...” and this bitch REALLY PUTS THE WORD “empath” IN DRAMATIC TEXT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN _AS IF WE GAVE A SHIT_

[@blushchuu]

liller Jesus how do you even remember that

[@thecreatedvoid117]

Shane’s lack of self awareness is on a whole other level.

[@emily-lh6fr]

period

[@thecreatedvoid117]

1D edit audios I really hope this is meant to be sarcastic.

[@icrawlforonlychrollo8638]

@@1deditaudios662 lmao clown

[@thecreatedvoid117]

Lmao wow that was deleted quickly

[@1deditaudios662]

Rachel V. As I should ✨

[@CeCe-xv1fr]

The lady with the red hair and glasses calling him what he is, I hope she's having a fantastic day. Queen shit.

[@memorydocumentation5942]

so do i

[@mmmk5385]

11:26

[@ponykazy3725]

What's really sad is back then she'd probably be shrugged off as "the sensitive red hair sjw liberal who hates Shane because hes a man and can't take a joke." Nope, Shane is just disgusting.

[@thequeenofcringe1585]

Love her

[@twig2730]

Exactly. She made a very very smart decision not to work with him

[@thisismecindy]

His personality hasn’t changed. He’s just gotten better at hiding how awful he is.

[@scray00]

Yeah he hides it behind that “ oh woe is me “ b s now.

[@em-ro4gx]

LITERALLLLYYY

[@Twinkle-re2eb]

He did say when he was an actor

[@ExtreemDreemer]

BINGO

[@bellz9113]

I feel like this is why his content changed a lot over the years. Skits to story times to girlfriend videos to collabs to food videos to boyfriend videos to conspiracies theories, to these mulit part series... not to mention vlogs/podcasts/live streams/the creepy video chats with fans that have surfaced. I think now if we put it all together I guess we can assume that whenever he had a scandal he would just switch up his content. Thus in theory changing his target audience and than either losing other fans or confusing them. It's like master business manipulation. Rebranding to hide company problems.

[@rachel2174]

i think shane is a perfect example of “schrodinger’s douchebag” - a person who says offensive things and decides if it’s a joke based on people’s reactions

[@MalcH]

Was just gonna leave that same comment, thanks for beating me to it!

[@sugarbella16]

Underrated comment

[@bigalssecondchin5744]

Ahaaa, I love this.

[@makena4329]

SO ACCURATE

[@oshawott946]

This 🤡

[@luwazwrld]

Not Cool has a 14% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Hollidaysburg has a 75% rating, sooooooo

[@npcimknot958]

simmy • according to Shane we’re wrong tho lol

[@ringss_]

@@npcimknot958 shit, man, the empath told us its good so i guess it is

[@frednavidad9575]

@@npcimknot958 We are wrong. Shane's movie shouldn't have gotten anything above 10%

[@cynicalbutterscotch6581]

David Fernandez not even a 5% rating

[@PONR2006]

I'm so mad for the other director. 250,000 dollars could've changed her life. She worked her ass off and produced an obviously superior movie. And Shane fans fucker her over.

[@redcitadel9123]

Honestly, mad respect to all of the actors who looked up Shane’s KZbin work and point-blank refused to audition for the movie

[@Beautifullytragic6]

No wonder Shane has never broken outside of the KZbin bubble. He looks like he is insanely rigid and combative. What a diva.

[@MyselftheElf]

Makes it way easier to control the content, narrative, & every part of the creative to screen process

[@Mphillig]

He has a reputation and no one in the industry would want to work with him, even before all this recent stuff came out

[@MH-iy6tn]

Melissa please spill the tea what have you heard 👀

[@urmomdotcom4039]

He wanted to break out of KZbin but refused to get out of his KZbin ways whatsoever. makes sense.

[@ImPrettyInPunk]

Right? If he really wanted to get into Hollywood and seriously making movies, he would have scrubbed all of his offensive content off of the internet and taken some classes on filmmaking, scriptwriting, whatever. Even the fact that he was comfortable leaving up his content for actors and people in the industry to see is mind-boggling. He has power in the KZbin community that he doesn't in the real film world. He's literally only relevant in the YT spehere.

[@cableplusjackie]

I love how Shane and his supporters are always like “it was a different time” “omg those things were totally acceptable back then” but then we see and hear a woman from “back then” saying he makes racist, homophobic, disgusting content... interesting.

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

“Everyone made mistakes at 18 :)” okay yeah but mine was picking a shitty boyfriend, not doing blackface

[@shannan_igans]

Hannah King plus he was older than 18 and still joking like that

[@skeevynicks]

Well it’s true the internet climate was different “back then.” However, people are acting like this was 2009 when this was in 2014 so people were starting to speak up against more shocking content.

[@kickme5592]

People have known blackface is wrong for decades. What time are we talking about, the 1930s? lmao

[@arttime359]

Okay I think what people are trying to say when they say "it was a different time." But like you haven't changed in 6 years or 12 years the only reason you can say that is bc all your mistakes weren't caught on video. And am not trying to say Shane should get of the support he dose but like come on were humans and I don't think he should get cancelled for the rasict jokes.

[@chris-673]

Imagine starting to direct ANYTHING and instantly think that you're Steven Spielberg AND allowed to be vicious to everyone on set

[@Moowsers]

It's crazy cuz big directors like Steven Spielberg are usually polite to their cast and crew, because they all put in effort and work and film crews tend to be pretty understanding, Shane Dawson is just childish and cant work with anyone without throwing tantrums

[@Cleighcade]

The fact that they let him act like this...

[@TSAirica]

It’s hilarious that the casting director had to tell “no these people have jobs” and Shane just can’t understand that.

[@chatceux]

It’s crazy how Shane clearly can’t comprehend that not everywhere is LA, but even then, struggling actors in LA often do have jobs (usually shitty jobs but still) lmao

[@blazaybla22]

@@chatceux Yeah I mean to be fair he wouldn’t have had any problems casting this dumpster fire in LA (I mean, if you can’t find them in Hollywood, just go to Van Nuys… if you know you know lol) but obviously they went to Pittsburgh because they were on a budget and I’m sure the city gave them big tax breaks to film there so they had to find people who weren’t willing to take any job that paid enough to fund their coke habit

[@kayl2807]

Shane is a perfect example of people who hate themselves while also still thinking they’re better than everyone else.

[@ashleyabdalla57]

so a narcissist??

[@nes22s]

exactly a narcissist...

[@DeathnoteBB]

Narcissism is an actual personality disorder though. Don’t conflate an asshole with disabled people, thanks

[@ashleyabdalla57]

@@DeathnoteBB as a person who's father was a diagnosed narcissistic trust me im not just throwing it around as an insult.

[@DeathnoteBB]

Ashley Abdalla And as someone who knows people with personality disorders, and is disabled, let’s not armchair diagnose complete strangers online, especially with disorders that people misconstrue as only being abusive

[@mistylane8171]

He says"Pittsburg" when throwing his tantrum as if people there are like beneath him??? It's so gross

[@buckshot_honeymoon]

yes i noticed his emphasis...."i'm not going to take advice from a bunch of OUT OF WORK "actors," from *PITTSBURGH!!* "

[@jxx366]

The worst part is that Pittsburgh is a big city for film now,, like there was no reason for him to shade it like that 🤭 like we literally had some of the batman movies filmed here

[@MysticDivinerLJ]

I noticed that from Day 1 ; the minute it happened I clocked it!

[@ericbrewerguitar1499]

*Pittsburgh but you’re right. We’re a proud a city and I’m sure that didn’t go over well

[@ericbrewerguitar1499]

Jocelyn x absolutely, there’s been a ton of movies filmed in Pittsburgh even going back to the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. I went to music school at Duquesne between 2003-2007 and several times East Carson street was shut down for movie filming

[@TomasTheTankEngine]

I feel like calling it a “movie” is a little too much, it’s more like a long Shane Dawson KZbin skit.

[@clwdT]

How he played different characters in it, made it look like one of his skits. I never really saw it as a movie, also it's crazy how it ended up on Netflix.

[@llux]

i think the same, i thought it wasn’t terrible but wasn’t great, just very similar to his other content on youtube.. then i heard it cost $850,000 😶😶

[@Paigebaby]

That’s just it. It’s a scripted skit.

[@TheCaliMack]

@@clwdT Netflix will keep it just so people can do a "Take a shot for every..." challenge. Or something along those lines.

[@josiehoover2047]

The trailer for Hollidaysburg (the movie he was up against) looks so much better!

[@bellat9327]

Zachary Quintos watching Shane get cancelled: 👁👄👁

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

He's sipping tea and munching popcorn.

[@natasha8007]

I’m so happy for him, he did not deserve that treatment

[@slpp9167]

More like ➖ ➖ 👁️👄👁️

[@crowthewicked8344]

The euphoria must have been great.

[@bbekah]

*everybody who worked on this project watching Shane get canceled 🐸☕

[@KatAct]

He would get eaten alive on a genuinely real movie set. Producers would not put up with him. The crew would walk off.

[@taram4414]

Yep. Real, accredited directors are allowed to be more of a "diva" because people respect them and know it's their process. This is just nonsense.

[@sunnivaleflair3576]

@@taram4414 And because they ACTUALLY have work and a resume that backs them up.....unlike you know youtube videos?

[@sunnivaleflair3576]

They would kick his ass off in 5 seconds.

[@AngelineProductions]

This WAS a "genuinely real" movie set - that's the problem.

[@kalin6602]

Frrrrr

[@angelamazakas2624]

The fact that both Drew and Garett aren't Shane's friends anymore, when they used to be SO close, is a really bad sign. They won't say why, either

[@kiararose8896]

And his producer Lauren, and shauna Malcolm who was a black youtuber who was friends with Shane way back then

[@c0rpsepuppy]

garrett threw some mega shade at shane over on twitter by saying that good things don’t need long explanations on why they’re good, as well as commenting on a tiktokers video, their caption was “thinking about all the racist celebrities being cancelled”, by saying “this caption is golden”

[@anonymous-ro1cd]

Ross Klocinski wow i love garrett

[@nomishanya]

Maybe they signed a contract to shut their mouth

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

they probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement because of his image and there being a lot of money invloved. at this point ryland must be a trophy wife. and that's whats sad and heart breaking, not some crass offensive jokes. shane made us care, led us to believe they were all great friends but it may have ALL been for show. if a friend has to ask you to sign a contract they probably don't have your best interests in mind.

[@splodergirl1]

this reminds me of when their site crashed (in the palette series) and shane was YELLING at the person on the phone, ignoring their suggestion, and telling them to "just fix it". seems to me he hasnt changed much

[@roxystarlite4106]

Omg yes.....acts so innocent and sweet but in reality he was acting that way for new viewers that had no idea who he really was.

[@k3upikachu]

@@SuperAwesome19 lol you mean Shopify?

[@CherryDiMilo]

True, but somehow it seemed he was acting diva-ish.... I don't why ? Did he think we would say: the audienct will see me acting here, it's all fun and games ? Seemed weird...but with this movie show in mind it does fit

[@Neuzeht]

Super Awesome totally get that point but I think Shane could have handled it better. He could have been assertive about not kicking anyone off...instead it came off aggressive and rude. Definitely agree with you that shopify should have been better prepared though.

[@troyklk7734]

This is exactly what I was thinking!

[@nisiwilli]

"Am I supposed to read every single notes?" "I've read every single one." I feel so bad for her...

[@alexisd6106]

Wouldn't you WANT to read every note?? I feel like if this was the first movie I ever made and I directed it and starred in it I would want to read every note even if there were hundreds, possibly thousands. Like wouldn't you want to know?? No. Because it's all about him apparently.

[@k3th.b.w122]

He’s to entitled to see he can be wrong.

[@daisymay156]

hilarious. "I'm supposed to read *all* the feedback?" like yes??? is that not the whole point of this show??

[@haushinka502]

Justice for Laurie

[@flamemasterelan]

@@alexisd6106 So, like... Yes, you should. But as someone who's extremely insecure over sharing what I'm passionate about, I can kinda understand not reading the notes. Like, when I took design classes in college, I would wait until the night before to start working on things specifically so that I wouldn't care as much about it when I had to sit through the crit. So I can empathize with not wanting to read the notes. But, y'know. Maybe that's something Shane should've dealt with before he signed up to be a director in a reality tv show / contest.

[@imconfusedandlittlebitofam4523]

Shane said he wants to Direct horror movie......I think he already did

[@katebradley9306]

😆 i- I just can’t that’s so funny

[@lilsaam]

I- 😭😭😂😂

[@macab-re]

Oh my god. I love this comment.

[@MeetFrizzie]

He actually already did. It was called Smiley and it was fucking AWFUL. I believe it came out before Not Cool

[@hooshoof714]

Julia Leigh yeahh, I remember the media went crazy about it when it came out in 2014

[@1qsc7]

Onision really recognized his own kind. Sucks that his own behavior made Shane look so empathetic at the time.

[@MrPenetroso]

No wonder they say it takes one to know one.

[@birdie4263]

Agreed.💯

[@omnibussy]

PREACH

[@missybuchanan9631]

I said that somewhere too. When it all first started coming out that’s all I could think about: Onision called it. Bloody Onision called it.

[@plantemor]

For real. I took note of that early on and have always trusted when onision recognize his own sociopathy in other people. It was the same with social repose.

[@birdie4263]

It was so unfair towards Anna to pit her up against a YT star that had a solid following base. They should’ve chosen another YT star as well to balance it out.

[@user-oq2eh1fo2s]

But I’m glad they didn’t get another person because Ana’s movie was nice

[@Froppy727]

What am I doing Yeah, they should’ve replaced Shane not Ana.

[@astrea5259]

or they could have had a bunch of non teenage girls rating the movie.... the testing done was far from fair considering there was so much bias. Remove the bias and you get an authentic testing, the people werent interested in that tho they probably wanted him to win so they would make their money back on him.

[@laceylee6797]

@Spicy Memer47 the form of voting should've been more controlled, even if it was a small youtuber they still would've had a viewer base that would vote for them over the other person. either way there would be too much bias in voting. you have one person with people who are already invested in their content and another who doesnt whether the youtuber is large or small

[@peapotfairy]

Or they could have chosen zero you tube stars and picked an aspiring film maker who actually went to school and got some training instead of Shane.

[@yourdecoydream]

I feel like Shane was being really sexist toward the producer especially during the argument about using the word "facebook" when he looks to the other cast member and says "do you understand what shes saying? me either" like just to belittle her

[@ladycaticorn2950]

I was thinking the same thing. He was mad she bothered to critique him and he wanted to make sure he humiliated her for it. Someone who treats people like that, who is so unwilling to receive criticism is not a good person. I say this as a writer who has watched a lot of people get their work critiqued. Those who are hostile and defensive are not good artists or are not mature artists. Shane is neither good nor mature.

[@Lavrnjaa]

Yeah it’s not necessarily sexist (I mean he could be but impossible to tell here bc he’s such an ass to everyone) but damn his behavior is absolutely disgusting I would’ve smacked him lol

[@brittneybrisbin744]

@@DontTakeThisSeriously616 It gives off that vibe because she explains something to him (very clearly) and he turns and asks another man if he understands what she's saying. It's not direct, but it's implied.

[@csf801]

@@DontTakeThisSeriously616 He was clearly being an arsehole towards everyone but to me, this particular discussion looks sexist as well because if it was another man he was arguing with, he would still be a jerk but he couldn't be condescending to the point of asking some other guy what the person is saying. He clearly couldn't handle criticism but also that the criticism comes from a woman.

[@natsby4life842]

@@DontTakeThisSeriously616 hey, I don't know what your gender is so I'm sorry if I'm assuming to explain this, but as a woman it's a very universal experience to have this done to you in this very specific way. You explain yourself clearly to a man, he acts like it doesn't make sense and looks for confirmation in other men ("do you understand what she's saying?") as if the conversation wasn't with you, as if to say "see? Neither of us get what you're saying, so you're wrong". It's kind of hard to put in words, but the objective is to make you seem irrational, over-emotional and crazy. A gaslighting thing that historically men have done to women for a very long time. Some men don't even realize they do this (much like mansplaining), but I think his manipulative ass is very conscious of this and is actively trying to mess with her head. Don't know if I made myself clear enough, but this is something a lot of women relate to so I don't think it's a stretch. On a side note, Shane Dawson is, in fact, a mysoginistic asshole even if you don't read this particular situation as a man looking for other man's support to gaslight a woman into thinking she's in the wrong here.

[@pikachu6ash]

I feel bad for the girl who was going against Shane. She clearly had more heart and passion going into her film, but since Shane has a huge following, he was able to steamroll over her excellent movie with all of his fans.

[@sicc9893]

Do you know where she is now, and if there’s any way we can support her?

[@nootnewt3]

@Sicc She goes by AM Lukas now and she seems to be doing indie films now

[@lils426]

Her movie was so much better and it was actually WATCHABLE and decent, she was cheated out of the win

[@sicc9893]

ccbib oki, thx!

[@Mami__halo]

I’m sorry for being one of those people who was following Shane so I brushed past her movie

[@melfree2545]

Shane 2020: I’ve always been bad at standing up for myself. Shane 2014: No, I’m not going to read any notes. No, we aren’t changing the script so people want to be in the movie. No, you’re all wrong, do what I want. Gotta love a man who’s consistent, am I right?

[@LLLadySSS]

Mel Free "I'm an empath" cut to him screaming at people and them looking miserable

[@hollywolbers7710]

Fax

[@confusedaf1112]

Because he's trying to make himself out to be the tiny, harmless, "soft boi" everyone fawns over. It isn't working.

[@lettletts7501]

It's like night and day the way Shane is here versus how he pretends to act on his channel.

[@averagepinkhairedperson]

he’s about as consistent as his acting in this movie

[@CierraB04]

I remember watching a video where Drew had talked about how Shane had hurt his feelings really badly because he yelled at him for being “annoying”. Drew said he locked himself in the bathroom and cried. I’m starting to realize that Drew probably needed to distance himself from Shane because this is who he really is, not what we’ve been seeing or led to believe.

[@bbekah]

That's disgusting. Probably why Garrett distanced himself too. They are both so sweet, and deserve way better friends that shane

[@LaurelLegros]

I remember a video that Shane uploaded where he had a bottle of alcohol and was peer pressuring Drew to drink even though he never had before due to his own personal reasons. I am so glad that Drew never gave in and didn't end up doing that. A good friend wouldn't pressure someone into doing something like that.

[@ggtt784]

@@LaurelLegros I remember that too, and wasn't Drew underaged too at the time?

[@SamArmijo]

Yo I think about that video all the time. Drew tried explaining that calling him annoying in front of a group of people was embarrassing and rude. I remember Shane completely disregarding his feelings and saying things like "Well I didn't know it was a trigger for you, if I knew I wouldn't of said it." It's like dude it's not about it being a trigger its the fact that he's your friend and you made him feel like shit in front of strangers then made him feel dumb for crying about it. Shane can fuck all the way off.

[@v.anessa1451]

shane is that one friend you need to cut off in order to improve mentally. he was probably really toxic to drew

[@lavenderkoi4931]

Where Laurie is explaining the facebook situation around 14:00 is blatant sexism and it’s disgusting. Reminds me of how male coworkers will talk about me in front of me? Like “do you understand what she’s saying” EXACTLY like that. Makes me so mad.

[@TealAstronaut]

I know! But luckily she ditched Shane after the movie ended

[@moatrboat]

@@TealAstronaut GOOD, i wondered about that

[@JetstreamTheSexSam]

It's not sexism ffs

[@d.olluwu]

@@JetstreamTheSexSamfound shane’s burner lol

[@TalkBack17]

@@d.olluwuhe’s never heard of mansplaining before lol

[@whospilledmybeans]

If you think about it, Shane ruined Anna’s chance at becoming a successful director

[@kaelyngalan5289]

but the movie is soo good. Anna’s*

[@cez_is_typing]

Kaelyn Galan huh???

[@car0ndelet]

Luna Anna’s movie is quite charming and very watchable.

[@CloverLovesTT]

im interested in watching anna’s, but i can’t tell if it’s legit good on its own or if people just think it’s good because shane’s was so bad.

[@victorianbarbie]

@@CloverLovesTT its good enough, it comes across as an indie student film (which it is). It's a nice movie, worth watching but maybe not rewatching

[@LizIsaCheeseDoodle]

This show is horrible to watch. I can’t believe he didn’t check his ignorance for this industry and realize that he is not actually a skilled director just because he can videotape himself in his room lol

[@NickDiRamioTV]

Totally, MUCH different skill set!

[@Paigebaby]

Omg. It’s scripted

[@iancarter5217]

@@Paigebaby thought so, hes a terrible actor.

[@libsybum3591]

At 13:54 he’s straight up gaslighting her

[@nerzzzz4]

Paige Moor it’s not though, Zachary Quinto still despises Shane to this day

[@lilly9293]

It’s crazy how he pretended he was shy and couldn’t speak up for himself when he did that series with jeffree. He acted like he was anxious and a push over. Yet here he has no problem yelling at people. He cracked in the jeffree series when the website crashed and said “fucking fix it then”. Yikes. It’s crazy that people (including me) fell for all that shit.

[@DeathnoteBB]

It’s not crazy, it’s genuine abuse tactics, eg. Gaslighting, manipulation, etc

[@fairenough464]

ugh, thinking about this makes me want to punch him

[@Name..........]

@@DeathnoteBB it was acting and maybe a wee bit of manipulation but not gas lighting, everyone loves to throw around the word gaslighting, but thats not what im seeing here, gaslighting would be what Hannibal did to will or Charles Manson did to his victims.

[@DodoDodo-im4qz]

Ikr!!

[@lemonhead222]

right it’s so scary to see him be so fake and put on an act that he’s shy when really this is how he treats people

[@emmalinekim9822]

I want to see Nick redo this video. I can tell that Nick was trying to be nice to Shane and his fans. I think that Nick making it now without holding back would be so funny.

[@KB-dd5px]

I was just thinking that !! When he was like “some people really like Shane, so I’m going to be as diplomatic as possible” ..I was like aww baby nick, he would never hold back now ! Lol ! 👏🏼

[@nkatti746]

I don't understand how people defend Shane by saying it was a 'different time'. It was 2014 and people were clearly uncomfortable with his racist and homophobic 'jokes'.

[@samanthachevez1693]

Right like ppl act like 2014 was 50 years ago. 6 years is a long time but it wasnt a different at all. Jokes like these were still looked down upon.

[@spectre9340]

Oh my God this was 2014?? I thought his content at that time was weird food videos

[@Vivicolor5]

Exactly!! In 21 jumpstreet I distinctly remember Channing Tatum say "it's 2014 bro you can't say that" when a random character called him a f*g so like... in 2014 homophobia was the joke it wasn't that long ago??

[@TM9_]

Thank you!!!!!! It was literally 6 years ago. They act like this was his first or second year on KZbin or something

[@zoinksexodiak4190]

And his pedophilic “jokes” idk how saying you’d rape underage girls is a joke but idk people will call anything a joke just to not be perceived as the asshole they are

[@kaseyanderson3817]

After all this happened, Shane’s fans bullied Anna (the other director) on twitter when she tweeted that she and Zach were upset due to a rape joke in Shane’s movie. She was especially upset because she was gang raped years prior. Shane’s response was, “the rape joke isn’t even that mean”

[@thenvie]

I'm disgusted.

[@jontreceeee]

That’s disturbing

[@Shadow_from_the_sun]

Hes a predator.

[@shrewii666]

Oh god. That is so disgusting. Poor Anna 😥

[@juliannah5721]

I hope she sees this all happening and feels some sort of vindication.

[@mads2040]

if you read one of his books, you’ll know that his friendship with Lori completely disintegrated after this movie. he claims that the stress of the movie ruined their friendship, but in reality it was the stress of working with shane.

[@EFantasic]

"I'm an empath! I care about everyone!" This is pathetic. He's a monster on and off the camera. And he still can't take valid criticism.

[@Thentavius]

"Tell, not show" at its worst.

[@morg6045]

His awful personality kind of come out when he was on the Instagram live stream while watching Tati’s video about him, James, and Jeffree.

[@skylinesandturnstiles9595]

Shane is just an Onision who managed to actually manipulate his audience into fully believing he's a good person. Onision only managed to keep a small group of people and there's the difference

[@hayleeofthevalley]

I always called Onision “Great Value Shane Dawson” for this reason lol

[@ThingsILikke]

Did Shane fool anyone though? I always thought people just watched him because his videos were entertaining. He pays a lot of money to have them edited and written well.

[@para-yw9dn]

@@ThingsILikke i think so idk though.. i never knew about the racist skits and old jokes he made but his new videos portray him in such a nice way.. now that i really know who he is im never watching his videos ever

[@yds2m]

@@ThingsILikke a lottt of people think that he's just a sweet guy trying to help and every wrong he does is just a 'mistake'. even the blackface

[@emmax.288]

Exactly 🙌

[@queenofsuffering8291]

Shane gaslighting everyone around him for 30 minutes.

[@ErinaBleu]

literally everything that comes out of his mouth is a form of manipulation and gaslighting... really makes you realize that his whole persona is fake.

[@whitneyhbr]

“A movie only date-rapists, racists, and sociopaths could love”

[@danithefiend6167]

Ha ha Ha! And your name! It's PERFECT!

[@xryxix]

lmfaoooooo i yelled

[@shayshowyipee]

bruh i feel so bad bc i used to love shane when i was younger (like 12/13) and this movie was my favorite just bc shane was in it

[@RuubinSelena]

I bet Jeffree loves it

[@KathyGarfield]

Maybe since Shane is two of the three that’s why he likes his movie.

[@ellendaniels8715]

In case anyone hasn't heard, Shane Dawson had a podcast years ago with Lauren from the show as a co-host. I think it was called Shane & Friends. She had announced she was leaving the show because she was getting married and moving on with her life. She proceeded to explain that during her HONEYMOON Shane was texting her bothering her (he's laughing condescendingly while she's genuinely upset). And you know how long the wedding/honeymoon/etc took? ONE WEEK. He couldn't leave Lauren alone for a week that's supposed to be one of the best times of your life because he needed to make his problematic podcast. Shane threatened not to pay her for her time as well even though she needed that money (prob another reason she left tbh). People only talk about the "sexy baby" and "SA cat" comments from the podcast, but it's full of comments that are so foul.

[@Izzy-cp8yt]

When I tell you I would have shut my phone off and used my new spouse's phone to call my lawyer. So fast.

[@nathanielrodriguez1873]

And the numerous antisemitic jokes made against her again and again

[@Lylah-bo9vp]

I really hope she’s doing well now

[@saurus8689]

He's so eugh

[@kaijuteeth]

@@Lylah-bo9vpshe still is online, iirc she has apologized for being like a bystander when shane was being disgusting (which fair) but she DEF deserves to be doing well considering she did try to call him out but got laughed off from what ive seen

[@chryslyer]

Something really important was said here: people looked up his videos online and didn't want to be associated with it. That was 2014. The narrative that his form of comedy was universally accepted is false. And shows that he has always been problematic.

[@bananasinfrench]

FANTASTIC point

[@user-ov9vr1wc2j]

THANK YOU.

[@noemijoseph2]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@talynhastime9343]

“If it was universally accepted why was it panned as unfunny?” is my question to those who defend it.

[@brittanysmith3310]

He was like the most popular youtube surpassing fred so.. If u were too young to be around for it or didnt see it go down then that's that. Cancel culture was not a thing. People didnt wanna be publicly a part of it but privately watched plus his audience was young. Imo

[@XDinoStephX]

THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO GO VIRAL SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT KIND PERSON SHANE TRULY IS

[@Skyler_Momoko]

I know right!! I was a die-hard Shane fan and I can't believe I'd never seen that before! This and everything else that's come out totally ruined the whole "eMpAtH" image I had of him. I thought like many that this 'Bye Sister' stuff was so out of character for him but it actually seems so in-character!

[@katiee3230]

You both need to get your head examined if you think what you're saying & agreeing to is "a good idea".

[@XDinoStephX]

Katie E please elaborate?

[@terushino5017]

@@katiee3230 you do realize that he's made pedo "jokes", was sexual towards Drew ( when he was a minor ), has said the n word and done blackface, shouts at people when he doesn't get his way, makes himself the victim whenever he says something fucked up, and probably has lied about mental illness

[@lilmrscutsie4524]

ive also been a die-hard shane fan since2010 when i was 9! I remember when not cool came out and her talked about The Chair. I didn't pay much attention to it cuz i was too immature. What really struck me is his involvement in the Bye Sister scandal and just seeing this it really makes me question his character. I've always found shane to be so inspiring and a good person deep down but now i just feel lied to LMAOOO

[@AnaFariaable]

So Anna's actors, in that very small talent pool, all "out of work actors in pittsburgh, who should be lucky to get an audition" all managed to get successful careers later... HMMMMMM

[@wonderlust1308]

Oh yay I’m so proud for them!

[@Silverado-pq6xe]

Source?

[@AnaFariaable]

@@Silverado-pq6xe their imdb page, the main in anna's film is on netflix now

[@bonniehowell4259]

That's so refreshing to hear!

[@emmanuelmurillo5116]

The female lead in Shane's movie is also an anime and video game voice actor who has been in major franchises and popular series.

[@alyssaj8779]

"Zachary Quinto is in this" Me: *shocked, pained gasp* "-and he does not like Shane." Me: *sighs in relief*

[@milaniafrzr]

literally me

[@indominuswrex9465]

lmao same

[@coolnerdlll6053]

The fact that Shane had the nerve to roast Spock tells me all I need to know about his ego.

[@meriaehkarey1621]

He doesn’t like him but they did ‘things’ together 🗣️😙

[@emperorgrogg]

I think it's really telling that Zachary Quinto played an adult with a taste for breast milk and yet a portrayal in Shane's film is somehow more immature...

[@dannydvp303]

Shane needs a big slice of humble pie

[@nopenottoday6179]

The size of the empire state building?

[@jordanjefferson4220]

fuck ya lol

[@ananta6113]

You mean a whole bakery?

[@a.2461]

OMG HAHAHA

[@popsicko6493]

@@ananta6113 from every bakery in the world

[@gavinr8437]

Shane Dawson really didn’t have a racist “moment” he was racist in his own time outside of his content, so I understand why people would never want to be in the movie

[@jacrispy4099]

yes! HES RACIST PERIOD. his best buddy jefree won’t take pictures with black people. tell u something? lmaooooo

[@allstr8peopledeservetodie10]

katie vs pie eh don't know about shane but jeffree just seems so negative

[@rh2443]

I watched the whole series and on one episode shane was in drag pretending to be a rude jewish woman. And at that point even Zach, the exe prod, told him to find the "line" in his comedy. Zach was very upset and horrified!

[@bananabrain2996]

Wish more ppl would realise this lol. He's not just made a few mistakes and being "cancelled" for it

[@gal2156]

I bet he blames the failure of his movie on the fact that they “made” him compromise so much

[@NoelleMar]

No it wasn’t a failure in his eyes because the fans cheated and voted for him lol

[@gal2156]

Noelle Matteson fair point!

[@jonsingsbway5112]

Noelle Matteson how could you have cheated? You had to answer in depth quizzes about both movies to be able to vote, which is why I never did because I never saw the other movie.

[@NoelleMar]

@@jonsingsbway5112 I'm guessing there are MANY ways I don't know of (I'm not as tech savy as some of these people), but one way I specifically heard of and could think of myself is simply a bunch of his hardcore fans sharing a lot of the answers.

[@damaracarpenter8316]

based on his recent live stream tantrum.. I don't think hes changed at all. He comes across as such a big baby and people have to walk on eggshells around him.

[@moatrboat]

I feel bad for Ryland.

[@Kumaclaws]

That’s the only way to survive when you’re someone like him. It’s a lot easier for him to put on a show as the most ✨empathetic✨ person on TMZ, and then make friends with celebrities that are untouchable so you have the defense of fans AND his friends’ fans. Even going full mask off doesn’t turn his fans against him at this point

[@memali2939]

@@moatrboat I don't. He chooses to support him and be with him. He's just there for the money, he's an awful human being

[@moatrboat]

that's true, there's also that possibility. i don't know much about their relationship but i just assumed he was too scared to leave the relationship, considering how shane is...

[@kaylavinson]

@@moatrboat I don't, Ryland let's him act like that as well plus I never cared for his egotistical, narcissistic, I'm better than you behavior. And well we all saw Shane become that once he became buddy buddies with Jeffree

[@MA1.5]

Shane is that guy who walks around saying that he is a “filmmaker” and a “cinephile”, but he wears a beanie instead of a beret or fedora and can only quote SuperBad and Mean Girls.

[@0akr0cks]

i agree but how could you do mean girls so dirty

[@milkman8467]

florence vincent how could you do superbad so dirty?

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Omg

[@angel_ethereal]

a :fedora: ¿ 😬

[@Chickapop22]

Why does which kind of hat you wear matter lol

[@becberry]

Yikes, Shane really sounds a lot like Onision in the clips from this show.

[@808sandcupcakes9]

Yup. Only with Onision you recognize immediately he’s a douchebag. Shane masks his douchebagary. He’s been gaslighting from way back!! Wow, who is he? Really? I don’t even recognize that dude.

[@Dinokreechur]

@@808sandcupcakes9 agreed

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

Shane Dawson made Onision famous! The difference is that Onision is dumber!

[@thequestion8697]

Thats literally the biggest insult could ever throw at someone.

[@stationaryparticles2492]

this is a reach cause onion boy has been and is worse. also, noone gives a shit that onionboi is a grooming ped*, when theres ACTUAL PROOF THAT HES DONE THIS TO PPL. but w shane its all speculation but shanes career was ruined faster than onion so whenever someone brings up onion in this situation its honestly just hypocritical from alot of ppl

[@Madij1990]

Lauren is his friend and he’s treating her like garbage. I feel like he surrounds himself with more likable, or less likable, people to make himself look better.

[@aco614]

Lauren was his MANAGER and he speaks to her like shes a piece of shit

[@r.m7114]

True. And I’m pretty sure that she’s the same person that was in the podcast clip, saying that she’s uncomfortable with his p*do behaviour? Even if he hadn’t been saying something so absolutely disgusting, he should have realized that she was uncomfortable. He just doesn’t give a shit. Ryland should run tbh.

[@tiaramesias4064]

No wonder he's friend with douchebags like Trisha Paytas, Jeffree Star

[@aco614]

@ his old friend Brie was right he does go through friends quick. Check out her twitter she talked about how he made her life horrible

[@MimosaQueen]

That’s probably why she left not too long after this movie

[@zachmcnamara4376]

"I'm not going to read *EVERY NOTE* " "...I did..." One of these people want this movie to be good, the other is using it as a vanity project...

[@alexisd6106]

Right? Like you get a chance to make your own movie...what an insane blessing. And you think to yourself: What if I star in it? What if I can relive my high school days and portray myself as the popular guy who becomes less popular but still ends up with the girl? And my ex girlfriend can play the blind sister! It's perfect!

[@mothastrud]

Remember when Shane said “I promise I’m not this mean to Ryland off camera” I’m starting to think that maybe he is.

[@workinprogress3329]

Omg. My thoughts exactly. It’s actually quite scary for Ryland if that really is true.

[@jsjbusta7059]

I think they are both equally.

[@volkova6209]

shut the fuck up, stop trying to cancel shane you already got him, he's not abusive. He just made stupid fucking jokes that went too far. Why would he be abusive towards Ryland?!

[@EloraSmith]

I was thinking the same thing! :(

[@alexaj.4562]

Ryland gives off extreme douchebag vibes like i feel they are both the same amount of mean to each other

[@GretchenV95]

Also... Shane actually won??? Wow. This is why we need to stop feeding mediocrity. I didn’t even know this show or movie were a thing.

[@josephp.1919]

Preach!

[@daisy4840]

YESSS! we need to stop giving shitty people huge platforms

[@HawaiianGirl808232]

I was watching Shane at the time and I remember him advertising his movie a lot in his videos.

[@Diamond-db3fx]

not defending him but times were different. Raunchy trashy American movies were popular at the time 😂

[@mitb06]

I remember they were really already impressed with his following. I think they did that because they thought it would bring attention to the series.

[@bethanyhall867]

It’s clear to me he is a misogynist, narcissist, and unable to take criticism. Makes sense that he and Jeffree are so close...

[@AngelineProductions]

It's disturbing to me how people are not pointing out the blatant sexism in his old videos and his book.

[@samiyakhalif8868]

And a racist.

[@v.anessa1451]

@@AngelineProductions all the r*pe jokes are disgusting and the way he constantly screams at and calls women "c*nts" and other derogatory names always rubbed me the wrong way

[@1yo2many]

The scene where Lori is giving him criticism about the Facebook lines and he gaslights her and asks someone nearby "are you understanding what she's saying?" is so fucking gross. You'll see abusers use that same shit to try and make the other person feel dumb.

[@moononthewindynight27]

*coughs*onision*coughs* Either way, I'm sooooo glad people are calling him out because even as a teen I started to see how fake and, quite frankly rude/disrespectful, he is.

[@theorcaelement8575]

My favourite part is when Shane’s going off about Zachary and then says something along the lines of well my test audience loved it. Later one of the producers said it wasn’t a test audience cause Shane filled it with all of his friends.

[@ursamellis264]

And yet he still couldn’t sit there and listen to what anyone had to say…It’s sad that he doesn’t even have the kind of real, close friendships where there can be honesty and compassion at the same time.

[@keenzw]

“I’m supposed to read every single one?” UH YEAH IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR FILM BEING WELL RECEIVED

[@Tori-mh7fg]

Weren't there only like ten people in the test audience? How hard is it to read ten opinion cards?

[@oceana3070]

But, but, but, he’s a big time DiRecTOoorrrrr! 🤣

[@bstardust7439]

Ikr I can't believe that, i'm a theatrical costume designer which is a little different but a huge part of the design process is recieving notes and adjusting your designs accordingly.. I can imagine it would be even more important for a director to do this

[@atlasrune3706]

even a big movie star like tom cruise claims to read every piece of feedback he gets. if he can take the time, shane can too.

[@Meliscrazy2122]

Omg the fact that he thought including a homeless person eating sh*t is funny is honestly awful and dehumanizing

[@ben_jamin4529]

@chima chibi that movie had the main character do it lol why didnt he eat shit

[@antares5561]

It's that satirical, bad "piss and fart joke" type humor, that used to draw the youngings in. It's really hard to watch old Adam Sandler movies for the same reasons...

[@Meliscrazy2122]

Erika Driscoll totally agree

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

Erika Driscoll I tried re-watching Little Nicky about 3 years ago because I just absolutely loved it as a kid and....yeah. Absolutely fucking not. I don’t understand how these men keep having careers after putting out garbage like this.

[@eclaireg]

Shane is such a diva in this. A big eye opener as someone who has liked Shane these last couple years. He’s incredibly rude, self centered, and entitled.

[@antisocialsocialite5046]

Gotta remember this was 7 or 8 years ago. Are you the same person you were 7 years ago? I have lots of issues with shane and I can see parallels to the same behavior today but its unfair to act as though this 100% represents how he acts today.

[@Sharpe1502]

Antisocial Socialite Shane was mid-20’s. He should’ve known better and most adults by that age know how to function around other people without being confrontational.

[@psychinteresting727]

Antisocial Socialite you will literally forgive him for anything huh? Wow. I feel bad for you

[@antisocialsocialite5046]

@@Sharpe1502 I agree that its disgusting and I never said shit like it, especially in my 20s. even though I'm only 4 years younger than shane so I grew up with the edgy joke culture too. Thats why I said hes done and said really creepy shit that makes me question him. But to outright say "hes a predator." As if its a fact is just hyperbolic nonsense unless victims/evidence come out which, as of now, none have. Im not arguing for shane im just saying throwing around words like 'predator' and 'pedophile' when that's not technically the case is counterproductive.

[@Sharpe1502]

Antisocial Socialite No one said anything about him being a predator. It’s his tendency to be a diva, his inability to take criticism, and his overall difficulty working with people who want to help him. It’s well documented that he can’t take criticism and it’s well documented that he is confrontational. It’s not a trait that he’s worked on. Psh, look at his “Welcome to the circus” letter where he later claimed he was “Just joking” before deleting it and throwing a huge bitch fit. Dude is not a good person. He’s childish and doesn’t deserve his platform.

[@caroline5576]

I think it's really telling that some actors didn't want to act in his movie because of the bigotry, but his fans claim that it was a 'different time'.

[@alexisd6106]

Oh I would've defended him if I was 13 and this movie came out. But then a funny thing happened. I met more people, experienced life outside of my middle school and house, and my brain and frontal lobe fully developed. Now I can't stand him or his shitty movie.

[@krissmonneolwagen3361]

He walked out of a meeting, wherein everyone BUT HIM was calm. A whole grown ass man runs away from his problems.

[@wonderlust1308]

Where was the professionalism?

[@mmm_mmm4935]

He is like my dad XD But luckily my dad is a deadbeat that we kicked out of our lives.:)

[@SparklyZee]

shane seems like the stereotypical internet personality that boomers think all youtubers are like--rude, egotistical, and stubborn.

[@k3th.b.w122]

Most are 🙃

[@memali2939]

@@k3th.b.w122 that's not true, many are, but most of the biggest youtubers aren't like that, mr beast, pewdiepie, and others

[@filip6994]

My mom thought of Shane AND Onision exactly. She said to me that they're unfunny and dumb.

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

@@memali2939 Wait havent Mr Beast and PewDewPie gotten loads of crticism for being terrible/do shady things?

[@MeMarcusTheCreator]

@@CherryBlossomBlyue i know pewdiepie did, but i thought mr beast was pretty unproblematic.

[@knzay]

Isn't it funny how 6 years later, he wound up changing his humor to please others, and by 'changing', I mean masking his humour and by 'please others', I mean making money.

[@roxystarlite4106]

Omg so true

[@Lilkumas]

What wrong with making money? Do you have work? to support that idea that you didn’t change anything at work to suit your boss? Here is the same his boss is his fan base everyone needed money everyone have to be an actor to get by so what is the last point you put in trying to make?

[@Lilkumas]

You making it feel like making money is bad... and pleasing other also bad...? You also making a comment now to hopefully pleased somebody that have the same ideas as you (just pointing that out)

[@jacobsykes3586]

Kit's Life hes also being a hypocrite though. If he hadn’t said he’d never change his humour this comment wouldn’t have been made

[@knzay]

@@Lilkumas Where did I say there's anything wrong with pleasing others and making money? Sounds like you are making a lot of assumptions there buddy

[@markymarx3117]

Did he just say "when I was an actor..."? In what world was he an actor? Auditioning doesn't make one an actor. He's an overpaid extra who's gotten EXTREMELY lucky to stay "relevant" this long because some people have really shitty taste. He's running on pity at this point.

[@RONANAWAY]

oof you hammered the nail into the coffin lol, he is just so full of himself. Reminds me of how i write Student Council President on college resume when i was just a member of it loll

[@keshagriffin3375]

Nice Homestuck Pfp

[@Dannyisazombie_]

3 years later and this comment is still one of the truest comments ever made on a video about Shane Dawson.

[@AngelStarHealer]

Shane the empath being difficult to work with and is mean to everyone??? *GASP* SHOCKING!!!

[@NickDiRamioTV]

Lol how do you make comments have bold text like that!

[@AngelStarHealer]

@@NickDiRamioTV Haha, just put inbetween asterisks :) good video btw, I really enjoyed it from start to finish. I used to enjoy Shane in my high school years but I can't stand him nowadays (and can see why from your video lol)

[@NickDiRamioTV]

Oh *cool!* and thanks so much I’m so glad you liked the video, I agree he’s a little unwatchable now

[@7Mushrooms7]

This takes me back to how he treated the package designer for the conspiracy pallet or those people from the selling website or whatever. Totally rude and unprofessional. Then the way he reacts to criticism every time someone calls him out on something, how he gaslights people, how he tries to make them feel bad for saying something critical even if it's just constructive criticism... yikes it has been here all along all these years. No wonder him and Jeffree are besties as they both can't stand not being with yes men and react awfully to criticism.

[@FreeToBeAFreak]

7Mushrooms7 this, yet it always cut to Jeffree saying “Shane you’re too nice, you’re too naive” like no he’s not at all, he’s just as big as a asshole but he’s great at hiding it

[@nataly6259]

When he said “ the actors should feel lucky to be in this feature movie” 🤣🤣 where?

[@jamiesue131]

I said the same thing haha

[@solm.6184]

his ego is huge

[@kaylay_8026]

Just wondering if the "actor" that had to eat the sh!t, HAD to be black (in HIS mind)?????ijs... Just wondering 🤔

[@user-mv5tm8eu5z]

he's disgusting

[@signa4871]

it was a skit

[@brittc7614]

I think Shane blacklisted himself with this one.

[@zo869]

Remember when everyone was like “giVe sHane a nEtFliX sErIes” like gurllll.... no wonder no one wants to work with him 😂

[@majoorellana21]

Yes! When he started his new persona on his channel around 3 years ago he kept complaining about not making money or having sponsors and I always thought that it was obviously because he was blacklisted because of all of these garbage that he put out there. These series just confirms that.

[@Aster_Risk]

I wish. Too many people don't give a shit about accountability or other peoples' feelings. Shane's been getting away with shitty behavior for over a decade.

[@danguillan3504]

After seeing this, he could never be involved in real film making in any way!! He is so closed minded and has th attitude of an artistic visionary but hes legit terrible at wat hes doing and has no true artistic vision!!! This was him tdying make a superbad rip off, now he tries to rip off louis theroux but with extremely mundane and deeply shallow subjects!!!

[@rachellochness]

I stan Zachary Quinto even more now knowing he hates Shane Dawson

[@theradmadlad7681]

I felt so bad when Shane was bashing Zach's choice to have the movie set in Pittsburgh. I've loved him since American Horror Story

[@TalkBack17]

Me too ❤

[@TalkBack17]

@@theradmadlad7681he was amazing in Heroes too

[@Noturbaby99]

How much you wanna bet if he says anything about “The Chair” he will try to say that he was *acting* or *pretending* to be an asshole and that reality tv isn’t actually reality

[@princessbabe1313]

“It was just a joke!” :)

[@camille1324]

Yeah or the old "it was taken out of context." I would be truly intrigued to see him try to explain exactly what context could have existed to make his behavior and words not obnoxious, unprofessional, infuriating or impossible to work with.

[@danielapardo9776]

Yeah. I thought he was "acting" at some point like: I'm a director, an artist so I should be an asshole and a "perfectionist"; I thought he would do that to be taken seriously (even if it is a stupid move). But then we see him on interviews, etc, and he still says the same shit: his movie is great, he will not please anybody, etc. That asshole is 100% him, no acting, just him and his personality.

[@Mels0103]

Or he'll say "It was edited and that made me look bad!" He's used that before.

[@MidoriGa95]

He doesn't need to say it. Recently I saw some people claimed "he was joking" he's acting" when the comment was about this show, The Chair 🤦

[@dianar9446]

I find it so funny that people are saying “oh it was funny/acceptable back then!!!!” Yet you have people BACK THEN calling him out for his racist, homophobic, and flat out inappropriate jokes and behavior... yeah sure it was ok. Keep telling yourself that.

[@kraziiXIII]

As someone who was grossed out back then when Shane was being awful, it was a part of the culture a la South Park and Family Guy. Those were cultural touchstones during the mid 00s to early 10s. Troll culture was in full swing. Ffs, does no one remember Mr. Hands and Two Girls One Cup? Cause that was internet culture "humor" at the time. Or the "firing mah lazars" thing which was steeped in anti black racism. There were many people who hated those shows and thought they were harmful, but people still found them "funny" or "acceptable". It is not an excuse for the behavior, but an explanation when it comes to the "culture back then". People like Shane got away with his nonsense because people did not care about punching down or being genuinely vile because seeing others squirm was soooooo hilarious to them. The early 10s were when "snowflakes" and "sjws" were first coined when there started to be a vocal group of people calling out others on "shock humor". People have always actively boycotted Shane's content and he was always a divisive subject during his sketch "comedy" """days.""" But the internet moves fast and stuff gets buried quick so people don't care or even remember the old scandals if they weren't personally affected by it. That's how Shane got new fans and kept the uncaring ones.

[@dianar9446]

elusive I’m glad we’ve moved past offensive for offensive’s sake “comedy”. And I’m glad we’re finally calling out creators that have made a fortune off of ridiculing marginalized people. I know there are many people who will still cry because they feel like we’re all “too sensitive now” but personally as an immigrant woman I’m glad we’re taking steps into treating others equally & not ridiculing each other for our differences.

[@kathyriver98]

@@dianar9446 oh please, don't be do sensitive

[@dianar9446]

Kathy And The Machine nah I’m good actually lol ☺️

[@cyanjackson7689]

YES 2014 was not that long ago. It's basically saying people weren't aware of these issues of racism and homophobia etc until what 2017? No, people were complicit with Shane. His fans including myself were young and did not know better. Different times is when it was decades ago. More of shane's former fans like myself need to speak out because we actually remember the atmosphere around shane

[@angelicastern2385]

If directors never take things out of movies, then what are “director’s cut” editions?

[@RedEllana]

Yeah exactly. I work in the movie industry as a sound recordist, it is CONSTANTLY that we film things that unfortunately doesn't make the cut. It's also the entire point of "deleted scenes" added to DVDs and such haha. "Kill your darlings" is the first rule of writing. Sometimes entire part of a script are erased on THE DAY we're suppose to film them. Because it doesn't work. Shane clearly didn't know anything, he's the kind of guy that get really anal about his actors saying EXACTLY the lines he wrote, no matter if they actually come up with better more emotional/funny things. A shame. Also wow, I would've quit this set so fast. I mean I worked with assholes before, but very rarely to that level.

[@TVLaneyyy]

directors cuts are typically a longer version of the film with every creative decision made by the director. in the movie business films are typically paid for by production companies which have final say to the length and scenes that make the cut or not.

[@JennaEmbers]

Thank you for helping me to understand how absolutely toxic Shane Dawson is.

[@opsidiann5131]

I feel like im seeing a pattern of Shane disrespecting and disregarding women (dismissing Alyssa Violet from the docuseries) How hes constantly cutting off, deferring to other the other guy when he and Laurie were talking as if she was speaking fickin in codes to him?? Also Him and Ryland throwing Tatis age at people when they arent that far a part in age themselves. Like...all im saying is pattern of behavior.

[@Electricangel7422]

This tho, i remember in his podcast it was a running joke where he had "Farrah Abraham Time" where he would talk about what Farrah Abraham was up to that week. It was literally just him and his costar slut shaming her and mocking her apperance. His podcast was filled with misogyny, same with his youtube career. Look at all of the underaged female celebrities he would mock

[@milfshanks]

Jesus Christ literally!! I think some of that comes from his mommy issues and the fact that his mom didn’t protect him from his abuse when he was younger. So he most likely views all women like that

[@libsybum3591]

He’s straight up gaslighting Laurie in that bit

[@jazzyroly]

Daddy's Whittle Gwoblin yes! He acted the same way toward Jessie, his second podcast host

[@katodd2925]

Most males are sexist but a lot of gay/bi males seem to really hate women more openly. Maybe because they are jealous?

[@bitnah3179]

He's so rude and horrible to everyone around him during this that it's hard to beleive that this disrespectful attitude has been grown out of.

[@jaciraguedes4642]

Maybe it wasn't, maybe he just fakes it..

[@MinuteMirror]

After his instagram live reaction to Tati's newest video.. he's not grown as a person in my opinion ..

[@Annie-gl9we]

This guy thought he was better then ZACH QUINTO srsly?!

[@coocoobananass]

RIGHT?

[@El1society]

I remember my dumb 14 year old self hating Zachary quinto bc of the shit shane made up about him. Made him seem like he was the villain

[@bananaboatcharlie]

This fool really thought he could take on Spock/Sylar/Nosferatu ??? Somebody get Shane some non-slip shoes because he is clearly trippin'

[@quitegauche]

@@bananaboatcharlie Shane's actions were succinctly put, illogical.

[@archnemesis8271]

@@El1society when I was a Shane fan, I was also a Zachary fan but when I heard about this, I was like "hm... Yeah, Zachary has a point-"

[@kelsieslayton5524]

To make matters worse, I remember on his podcast, Shane said several times after the filming that people in Pittsburgh were ugly. If I remember correctly, he said “in Pittsburgh I’m a 10.”

[@urmomsonmydick]

and he still aged like milk. karma at its finest.

[@RedSpade37]

I know this comment of mine is late, but I just felt the need to say that I am from Pittsburgh and the people here are downright *gorgeous*

[@StopCallingMeShirley1180]

“I’m An EmPaTh!” - Shame “Yaw” Dawson

[@thequeenofcringe1585]

Ok, as someone who is from Pittsburgh, he’s a -10 at best

[@kavyalm1253]

Shane is not a "10" in any of the dimensions or universe🙄🤣🤣please

[@CountCrackulaMyWay]

“I’’M nOT gOod aT sTaNdInG uP FoR MysELF”- Shane Dawson Insert scenes from 2014

[@libsybum3591]

Where did “I’m so empathetic” and “I’m too sensitive” Shane Dawson disappear to?

[@arielross3929]

This just makes me wonder what Andrew deals with when they edit “together”. & casting himself is SO CRINGE.

[@lucidstarlight3296]

oh come on plenty of people played in their own films and did an amazing job

[@tka6670]

@@lucidstarlight3296 I feel like most of the time they're experienced actors who've been in the industry for a while, and have learned about directing...

[@Jonqen]

Like seinfeld?

[@casey5683]

Wow I didn’t even consider this. I know Garrett isn’t around anymore, is Andrew?

[@alien_from_andromeda]

C Crystals andrew films everything for shane

[@ACL7211]

"Not Cool" was a terrible movie. Even as a teenager I couldn't finish watching it.

[@kumjumba1377]

Me too, it wasn't funny, it more shocking than funny

[@Angelica-jl8uk]

Me too omg. It was disturbing

[@risingmoon56]

I watched that movie but I guess it must've been kinda boring or something because I didn't even remember that I had watched it until right now

[@Xeno-z9d]

I watched it i loved it Hahaha

[@carlissiawilkins4432]

@@Xeno-z9d ew...

[@rebeccahopkins9522]

Fun fact: the OTHER “The Chair” movie that year, from the traditional director you mention, is called “Hollidaysburg”. It’s actually a pretty good movie, and has a 75% rating on Rotten Tomatoes vs. Shane Dawson’s 14% for that POS (literally 🤢🤮) he has the audacity to call a movie. And as far as him being a young 24 when he made it-well, Orson Welles was 24 when he made Citizen Kane. Widely considered one of the greatest movies of all time. So yeah, doesn’t really apply to why he was such a bad director, not to mention a horrible person.

[@NickDiRamioTV]

Totally! I did a review of Hollidaysburg on my channel too!

[@rebeccahopkins9522]

Nick DiRamio 👍its actually a really good movie 💕

[@Cxrter]

I remember as a child I was disappointed, this movie just felt like a long Shane Dawson skit. Not a compliment. Also it’s weird how all his short films, like this, he HAS to be the star actor, he can’t just direct. And he always is well liked & gets a hot girl. These “movies” just seem like him living out a Fantasy.

[@sadghostyy]

i’ve always kinda thought this tbh

[@obrechenx]

Tea

[@chelseamcnamara4137]

Low-key same vibes as Onision always self inserting himself in things he makes 🥴

[@shazleighsmith2790]

couldn’t have said this any better

[@rubyrae3113]

This is the exact reason why he’s befriended “the popular” people on KZbin (J Star, Trisha, Tana) despite their problematic history. He’s living out his impossible fantasy of being a popular kid in high school

[@ziggyd93]

I’m no clinical psychologist, but he comes across as a vulnerable narcissist. It’s really fascinating how he tries to portray himself as a sensitive victim, when in reality he just can’t handle constructive criticism.

[@katezim]

especially at 25:08, his facade of innocence and how he’s trying to convince everyone he’s been cooperative is so nauseating

[@isabellanow444]

This^^^

[@Uhhfff]

so shanes a gabbie hanna

[@thedailybadaxe7936]

I feel really bad for Lauren. She put a lot of her time in helping him be successful and he treated her so bad.

[@mandyrain1437]

exactly. the part where shane goes “im really supposed to read every single one?” and she goes “i read every single one” ugh, makes me sad how mean shane was to her

[@workinprogress3329]

He should have publicly apologized to her. IDK if he ever did ... my guess is no.

[@evamatthews1102]

Yes!! I remember when she left working for him and it just all felt so awkward....I hope she is happy in whatever she does now :-)

[@arugula_fan]

she's a Vice President in development at a media distribution company and went straight from shane's bullshit videos to a job at facebook, don't think you need to feel sorry for her.

[@thedailybadaxe7936]

@@arugula_fan Yeah I saw her Ted Talk

[@Olahve982]

He literally dehumanized all of the actors.

[@manderly33]

Yes, and they *knew* that’s how he felt about them. He’s not capable of hiding it. I’m sure they could feel his disinterest and contempt.

[@JennaLovesPickles28]

I’m honestly annoyed that Shane won when the other director, Anna Martemucci, definitely made a way better movie. Her movie, Hollidaysburg has better reviews than Shane’s movie, Not Cool, so the only reason he could’ve won is because his fans voted for him.

[@murdermygymsox]

I haven't seen Hollidaysburg, but Shane denying that he won because of his fan base is just delusional. His fans are obviously the reason he won. He uses the excuse of "but they had to watch both movies and answer questions", bitch that doesn't mean they just did that and still voted for you because you're you! Lol

[@kirapokelmann618]

Thanks for giving the name of the other movue, wrote it down and qill watch it 👍👍

[@Ana-jv7zl]

Shannon Elsom he had a forum in his podcast where he hinted that they were giving out answers to the poll questions so his movie can win

[@Ana-jv7zl]

Poor girl was also being bullied by his dumb fans. I’m just glad at least Zachary quinto had her back

[@zoey-nh2uk]

That's how winning works. Lol whoever has the most fans

[@GlambyRJ]

Lauren wasn't just a producer on the show for him, she was his actual manager in real life. So she had to deal with his bullshit 24/7 lol no wonder she quit years back.

[@vee_you]

I always wondered why she quit. I see why now

[@Kaedemoon267]

Wonder why she hasn't spoken out yet

[@Tuepfely]

@@Kaedemoon267 Probably difficult for her if she wants to keep on being a manager. If she "slanders" a former client it might be hard to get others to want her as a manager (bc they might feel like she could "betray" them too)

[@TerrorKrueger]

@Karl O'Shaughnessy do tell???

[@bridievinn]

@Karl O'Shaughnessy wait wut

[@L33ANN3]

shane saying that directors never take things out of movies is stupid. alot of the time they have to, to please the public. then they make a directors cut for their fans specifically

[@bababooey.26]

exactly, that’s the first thing i thought of. like has he not heard of directors cut lmao

[@alyssabrown-carleton6173]

Or for time or just to make it more streamline

[@padmeskywalker1537]

I just finished Star Wars and they had to keep changing the script for The Rise of Skywalker because of Carrie Fisher’s passing. They tried making her older voice lines fit into a cgi character of herself and make the script and voice lines go together. I hope that makes sense but anyway.. yeah people do that so I don’t know why he acted that way. :/

[@クロウ-y9i]

They have to cut certain things out due to time cuts and other things. Directors cut shit all the time.

[@faiththeunknownbeing8126]

Exactly!!!

[@ErikaGillmusic]

watching him with his coworkers is painful. literally what communicating with a narcissist is like. impossible. they're offended at everything and deeply righteous, unwilling to compromise and they don't belong in creative/collaborative spaces for those reasons

[@ErikaGillmusic]

they'll never grow creatively bc they're unwilling to handle criticism

[@Capydapy]

Shane did a much better job playing Rumplestiltskin in Shrek 4 Forever After.

[@kellynaz9256]

bruh

[@pkmyng]

lol i mean..

[@shibeboi1173]

holy crap he does look like him

[@janninmarie8385]

Aaah I thought Rumplestiltskin looked sooo familiar and I couldn’t put a finger on it. Finally the mystery is solved lol.

[@kebrinab13]

...tHATS WHY THAT DUDE LOOKS......whew 🤣

[@Velvethex6]

Shane actually has the movie poster hanging in his home. You think it'd be something he'd want to forget.

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

Liz Oliver his old house. I don’t know if his new one does

[@kittycattt93]

Cus to Shane it was "a masterpiece that got wrongfully slammed" 😂😂

[@justagirpup]

Its the closest he has ever gotten to the role of official movie director. He would never want to foget that. I bet that if shane got creative power with a big budget he would revert to making this kind of crap because its his humor he only changed to stay relevent on yt

[@rosalierowan]

I feel like the more people say “you’re wrong” it just solidifies it in his mind even more that he is in fact right. He’s so defensive and full of himself it’s crazy.

[@BambiIves]

He also made a horror movie called "Smiley" which is even worse. Kinda interesting how it never gets mentioned 😂

[@BaileeGermanotta]

Shane’s whole act is “oh I’m insecure, oh I’m humble, oh I’m quirky, oh I’m quiet and low key and nice to everyone, let me wear this robe to be relatable”. Shane behind the scenes “they’d be so lucky to even talk to me”

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

I know. 🤢 gross

[@fairytailgirl123]

He sells it to well .

[@harrypotter893]

The fact that some people think just because he is an asshole to everyone means he is not sexist is disgusting. He has always seen women as Below him. Just because he is bisexual and feminine doesn’t mean he is clear of being sexist and misogynistic(people usually don’t hold gay men accountable for it)

[@acciousername6776]

💯

[@Bollywoodlover100]

i don’t disagree with your statement but in what world is shane feminine

[@acciousername6776]

@@Bollywoodlover100 well, he tries to be all uwu and cutesy and a softboi as opposed to rugged. maybe that's what op meant.

[@SaVanityVan]

Shane is blatantly contemptuous of women and literally always has been. Just look at all of his female characters in his skits, as well as in this movie.

[@lightningbolt4467]

@@Bollywoodlover100 he usually panders alot to his female audience(acting all soft and “empathetic”,which is stereotypically a trait women feel attracted towards)