Shane Douglas shoots on The Kliq

[@MrBrightWave]

I am a big fan of Shane Douglas. He gets a bad rap from people in the business and some fans because he tells it straight. You can tell that when Shane speaks, he doesn't sugarcoat the content.... a quintessential straight shooter that can rub you the wrong way with his direct approach.

[@Z-54294]

100 percent spot on.

[@rainman11985]

He also has a much higher than deserved opinion of himself, that also rubs people the wrong way.

[@Humorless_Wokescold]

rainman11985 So did Shawn and Scot Hall

[@comeonmaaan4288]

Lol, he takes shit because he has an extremely biased take on things and speaks with authority even when he is demonstrably wrong. That's not a "straight shooter." He's a confident speaker, but kind of a whiney bitch.

[@dougnavarrone123]

ComeOnMaaan whiny? This is whining? Sounds like the kliq has a reputation and from my pov, the kliq comes off as pussies.

[@ZTriggerGaming]

To this day, Shane treats even the most nameless indie guys with respect and is always happy to offer advice. An absolute class act. When he tells these stories, I have no reason to question him. It’s incredibly sad that he was treated that way.

[@sleazypmartini5717]

I’ll always remember ric flair mocking Shane for having a job at Walmart or target or whatever, yet, rich flair was in the news at that time for being broke

[@doodooheadpleighboy4255]

Flair has always been a crybaby asshole. Fuck that guy.

[@BigBoss-zi5ss]

Yea exactly..you know how many ppl he owes money also allegedly and how Vince bailed him out many times financially

[@WilliamGregg-rn5rv]

I’ll. Always remember there was a video of I think a podcast and “Rich” lol Flair called in and he was hammered. He goes “” Are you going to Loan me that 20,000 dollars”. It was so bizarre it was funny.

[@scottdaniels-rx2ql]

Loser

[@deadyrockspin]

I love Shane's shoots, I can picture everything he says in my head clear as day!

[@travisw3131]

he's very good with details and putting a picture together for you.

[@michaelmacdonald880]

@Vick Four the klique are liars though.

[@stinkybojangles4128]

When someone gets super detailed like that, in most cases it's a true story.

[@michaelvaughn8864]

According to the late Mike Graham, he never drew a dime😑

[@michaelvaughn8864]

Then again, so says him, nobody drew one

[@luvmenow33]

One thing I've learned , never expect that someone will return your kindness no matter what you've done for them. I've been screwed over alot.because of that kind of thinking.

[@michaelnemeth5242]

I agree 100% William

[@Leotheanimal87]

The sad facts!

[@tankwfw]

People forget that for all intents and purposes, Vince was the 5th member of the Kliq

[@BigDaddyCooI]

A very educated and under rated as a wrestler. Old school-er who has respected for the sport. Protected the business for what it use to be.

[@Nazzlover38]

Have allot of respect for the Franchise.

[@DoctorFriday81]

Shane Douglas is one of the most underated wrestlers of all time

[@whtevr84]

I think Shane's a little underrated, at least for how good his characterization was of 'The Franchise' character, but I think Shane was perfectly decent in the ring and simply ok outside of his few prime years in ECW He's definitely not overrated, he was never terrible at any point of his career, Shane's at least as good as a Scott Hall or Triple H, but he's never talked about in the same vein

[@SupesMe]

I never really "Got it" about him until I saw him Live at ECW Guilty as Charged. I always viewed him as a average...heavyweight...worker...until that night. In person his magnetism is unbelievable. When he was calling out the Triple Threat to save him from Taz and they turned on him. Then as he walked up the ramp afterwards defeated and alone the whole crowd fell silent. He protected his "Anguish" so well everybody felt it. Amazing

[@whtevr84]

Supes Me Shane's a legitimately great heel, his initial 'Franchise' character work really gets overlooked, it was so good that Triple H stole the whole character for himself when he got his first main event push in 1999

[@SupesMe]

Oh yeah definitely. Not denying it at all just saying I had to see him live to understand why. That night completely made me understand "Him" . Was not aware of the HHH thing...just like Austin stole The Sandman's Shtick

[@SupesMe]

Gene Bone I totally agree about Mike Awesome. What a tragedy

[@yautjawarrior8708]

Much respect for Shane Douglas

[@danielr4640]

Yautja Warrior I agree

[@unclelloyd]

I've heard the Kliq's side and I've heard Shane's side. Not a tough choice on who to believe (hint: not the Kliq).

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

So why didn't Shane Douglas get over in WCCW. Must be the kliq to right?

[@bsimms2034]

He means wcw.

[@bsimms2034]

Yeah just to be accurate. We all take our wrestling history seriously.

[@marc80s]

You can tell Kevin Nash is lying because you will see his lips moving.

[@CraigSmithII]

@@marc80s Like he said he was there when Vader got his assed kicked by Paul Orndorff. In reality, Nash heard about it

[@Potent_Potables]

This is one of my favorite youtube clips ever. Honest and forthright. Thanks, franchise.

[@godlevel5495]

Shane Douglas was always one of my favorite wrestlers from back in the day....dude was a great worker, great on the stick...his ECW championship run put that company on the map period!

[@fastfrank7328]

EC Fng W

[@davidcook680]

He was a beast in ECW. So many high level guys in it.

[@Ace-vf2uf]

Facts and no lies about it.

[@markryan5104]

Awesome frickin interview....big thankyou from me over the pond in jolly ol' England...helping me get through a very hard time in my life are your interviews at the moment and will always be grateful for that.Hannibal thankyou and take care👍

[@DAEDRICHHHH-TUCKER19]

idk why but the way he told that scott hall story about him sitting in the dark while him and vince are talking was so fucking hilarious! 🤣

[@doodooheadpleighboy4255]

You know Scott was just standing in the shadows buzzing hard af off the booze smiling

[@gordonirvine726]

I could listen to Shane Douglas, Kevin Nash and Jim Cornette talk wrestling all day... They're so entertaining.

[@andrewhansen1522]

Kevin Nash tore a quad just listening to this interview.

[@1950Grendel]

I'll take Bill Eadie over Nash; he's more believable.

[@ronniemacdonald2768]

Shane Douglas is about as entertaining as a hospital ward.

[@gordonirvine726]

@@ronniemacdonald2768 a hospital ward with like a local magician or clown who entertains the patients?

[@ronniemacdonald2768]

@gordonirvine726 Nah just one with people lying comatose or groaning and dying. That funny.

[@NJFilmSyndicate]

The Franchise is one of the greatest of all time!!

[@StarCityAudits]

not even close

[@JorgeMunoz-gn5do]

The franchise revolutionized wrestling in the 90s as the most notorious heel of his generation even HHH ripped off his ECW gimmick from 92 to 99 as a dumbed down , cheap carbon copy of the franchise. One of the greatest to ever do it.

[@ThePreachingOfHisWord]

@@JorgeMunoz-gn5do...BIG FACTS

[@Melanatedhatervibez]

@@JorgeMunoz-gn5do woowww that's too funny. I'm learning more and more by the day

[@sheastadium2008]

​@JorgeMunoz-gn5do I never thought of it like that. Geez, how many personalities did the attitude era get from ECW in those days.

[@MalikSucksAss]

Bam Margera shoots on The Kliq

[@conpapi]

Malik Sucks Ass solid

[@michaelvaughn8864]

Who's doing the interview then....Johnny Knoxville??😂

[@WCWFanForever]

LOL that Vince Story I can see Scott Hall listening to them while sitting in the dark.

[@WCWFanForever]

Unless you license it or get free permission.

[@WCWFanForever]

LOL OK Tony Montana Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[@WCWFanForever]

You mean fair use/licensing.

[@Z-54294]

I can't believe I didn't find this channel sooner Shane is a really good down to earth person and yes Scott Hall in the dark is very funny.

[@Z-54294]

Stop being a dumb troll Tony.

[@PiCheZvara]

Holy shit. I've been a wrestling fan for 20 years or so and although I always knew about him, I always thought Shane Douglas is just some bitter ex-wrestler who burned his bridges. I never actually listened to the man talk, or explain his side of things. He comes off incredibly earnest, smart and well-spoken. He obviously remembers a lot of details, sharp mind. And he reminds me of me. Because his philosophies about helping the Kliq at the beginning by offering a house, etc., being gratious and expecting the same are mine exactly. And I got burned by being like this too. I feel for Shane here as the same thing happened to him. He treated someone like his friend, then expected that person to treat him the same and instead they revealed they were never his friends at all. I feel for him. He seems like a straight shooter, a smart, fair guy who gut fucked and history forgot about him. I feel gor him. His biggest mistake was he addressed the Kliq's subtle jabs at him meant to piss him off or derail him directly. You CANT do that, because that's exactly what they wanted - to get a rise out of him so they can they bury him. He swallowed they bait, hook, line and sinker. He didn't understand they would just interpret their way as being well-meaning and that if the manager likes them, he won't see through the BS or won't care if he does. When guys like Michaels and co. try to derail you at work, you need to stay cool and keep your cool even if you know for sure they are undermining you. Never call their BS openly, ever, you will always lose like that.

[@flipjohnson8940]

I would pay so much $ to see the video of that marine wearing out hbk

[@jesusjimenezhernandez7163]

The marine had every right to beat up Shawn Michaels for flirting with his girl behind his back!!!!!!!

[@pbanik]

@@cryptozoomauler5505 How does Shawn repay Davey? He screws Davey out of the European title in his home country, because he wants to be the first WWE Grand Slam champion, because Michaels dropped the title to his buddy HHH later on in one of the lamest matches ever, similar to the way Nash dropped the WCW title to Hogan. He couldn't wait until they get back to North America.

[@vanessawagner6209]

To be fair, when it comes to a Shawn Michaels you actually don't need a reason. Him being Shawn is all the reason anyone would need.

[@RaytheGrayt]

Its pathetic how the kliq today is celebrated as if it was a good thing. The sign being thrown around at hof, fans doing it, and other factions adopting it, meanwhile the same group that destroyed careers and lives alike.

[@crylittlesister6377]

Ikr this is the same group that has ruined wrestlers careers and played a hand in the demise of two wrestling promotions (WCW and TNA)

[@skippythealien9627]

it's just such a damn shame. I'm not expecting everyone to hold hands and bake cookies together, but you can have a healthy, competitive rivalry but still be professional. Look at Rock-Triple H and Rock-John Cena. THere was definitely tension there but they put it aside and made great business

[@zaryalace7475]

Ironic how WWE had an anti-bully campaign when the Kliq was the epitome of bullying other wrestlers.

[@ashleyquintanar727]

RVD said it best to HHH "You are really good at spitting water" then proceeded to imitate him

[@davidcook680]

RVD is my all time favorite wrestler. Dude was amazing.

[@peterjohn2473]

Very intelligent and articulate man. Like a great school teacher.

[@greenwizard7592]

Peter John is that a joke, because of his Dean Douglas gimmick

[@pbanik]

@@greenwizard7592 Maybe, but he is intelligent and well educated. He is better educated and more intelligent than the vast majority of people.

[@greenwizard7592]

pbanik yes, but I was talking about him being a great school teacher

[@jurgonaufalut5696]

@@greenwizard7592 he was a teacher..... in western Pennsylvania

[@alexbeardsley751]

the fact Shane would rather job with sweet chin music in 5 seconds than be handed the Intercontinental title speaks volumes of how much he respects the business.

[@PiCheZvara]

I think it's clear the Kliq saw that Douglas was smart, talented, hard working and if given the ball, he really could've picked up steam. So they simply decided to stab him in the back and they didn't care Douglas helped them out by allowing them to stay at his house, or he paid for the gas, etc. earlier in their career. Shane's biggest mistake was that he wasn't afraid to call them out on their BS.

[@geneanthony3421]

It seemed like they wanted him in their club but when he didn't like their games it was an issue.

[@Thecolemineexpress.]

You know people have a tendency of forgetting the things people have done for them Shane was good enough to let Shawn and Scott crash in his brother house only to be buried by both of them a few years later it goes to show when you're given a push in the business and you get to the level you always wanted you forget the good gestures people have done for you in the past.

[@zaryalace7475]

Karma has a funny way of catching up with people. HBK literally lost his smile, and Scott Hall had his demons.

[@bieberninja1]

if vince actually believes the idea of sending the fans home happy then why does triple nose win so much?

[@dwainemassey194]

Bieber Ninja cuz he fucked his way to the top

[@bieberninja1]

i think triple nose let vince and pat patterson have a sword fight in his mouth and then stephanie ate a whole bottle of ex lax and stood on a balconey and took the dump of the century on him while he proposed while playing the tuba and some of the shit went into the tuba and he swallowed some of it

[@katkenobi6765]

Bieber Ninja have you SEEN that nose?!?! His nose is the Andre The Giant of today!!! HHH himself wouldn’t even go up against that nose!!! That thing could swallow Andre whole.

[@camdencrabbs3916]

Danny Isambard I think you guys hate on him so much is cuz ur jealous of what he has nice guys finish last remember that he might not of played nice but look where it got him

[@ratskate9951]

@@camdencrabbs3916 lmaoooo "nice guy" ? Dude was arrogant

[@davidgerow]

In your House was in Winnipeg. I was there, I can’t believe I gave Shawn a standing ovation.

[@JoseFlores-yh3td]

Scott Hall will beat the shit out of Shane

[@BrianJamesShanley]

Today is the first “shoot” interviews of Shane Douglas I’ve ever heard. He is very good.

[@Irobinson86]

HHH Ripped off "The Game" Moniker from "The Franchise" Shane Douglas

[@unclelloyd]

That's a fact. Triple Nepotism was a carbon copy of The Franchise, leather hat and all. One more drop in the large bucket of things WWF/E took from ECW during the Attitude era.

[@zacharylewis2802]

Riggan Rose Wasn't Vince technically bankrolling ECW for most of its run?

[@lowjack3399]

Irobinson86 Damn, neva thought about that.🤔

[@guyincognito6066]

Irobinson86 so did sting, start calling himself "the franchise" in wcw, years after shane did it, in ecw.

[@shinigami146]

Nate C, Sting's franchise moniker was for a totally different reason. It was because he never left atlanta/wcw for the wwf/wwe. I'm not so sure that he gave himself that name, either.

[@FranchiseSHR]

FINALLY, I was wondering for years what the real HBK Marine story was, everyone has their story, I believe Shane's story because he said it step by step, not HBK was lippy, got beat up, Shane added Bulldog and Xpac

[@alexmelendez6732]

Shane Douglas definately was the Franchise and it's sad that he got treated the way he did by the click, he def is in the top 5 of best promo cutters for sure. Shane is awesome I def would believe his story before I believe anything the Clique has to say, they have been known to lie a lot especially Shawn. Shawn lies a lot.

[@Sweeptheleg83]

Alex Melendez yes. The kliq are notorious bullshitters

[@adriancarlos9155]

He was a threat to SM and HHH so they screwed him.

[@myronedwards7699]

The Kliq didn't like him because they know that he is excellent on the mic and a good wrestler

[@louiscsanko3673]

MYRON, 100% SHANE COULD OUT WRESTLE THE KLIQ// ONE BY ONE, HE WOULD TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL ON THE MATT

[@ronnievanderwerken3436]

1000th like and being 20 this year this video is one of the many that makes me wish I could go back and be a fly on the wall in the company and see all these stories go down

[@alanjackson4344]

Shane Douglas is a class act... Thank God for him in the wrestling world...

[@DrenTheLiar]

Ya know, I've really lost respect for Shawn, Scott, and Ric hearing what Shane has said of them. And why I'm inclined to believe Shane over the others is how genuine and humble he sounds compared to the other three when they talk about him. Even though he was run through the mud he still gives them the credit they deserves and never really says a mean-spirited thing about them, whilst all three of them just trash him. Now why would three guys who already have superb legacies cemented need to talk about someone else the way they do? I can absolutely see what he means about Ric and how disingenuous he is. I believe Shawn (ESPECIALLY) was afraid of Shane and his boys protected him. How can you not, when Shawn was well-documented to be a shithead back then?

[@Charlx6]

Thumbs up from me , gotta say I like Shane Douglas and could listen to him for a fair amount of time.... Politics in wrestling suck actually politics suck full stop.

[@louiscsanko3673]

GRAHAM, CHEERS TO YOU, POLITICS HAS DESTROYED THE WORLD.

[@southbeachtalent]

The Scott Hall story is VERY interesting. The implication is that Scott was trying to get across that Shane didn't know how to work. That's some serious shit

[@janganrasis5092]

Yeah..and that toothpick is so gross

[@zaryalace7475]

Sitting in the shadows of the boss' room, listening to conversations of other people. Sounds very much what he would do in other promotions like WCW and TNA.

[@MikeRuh01]

I always love to see interviews of what happened back in the day. There are always 2 sides of the story and usually the guy not on Vince's top pick is the one to listen to for the truth. Vince hand picks his guy or woman. And if you ain't first. You're last.

[@dayandnightgaragedoors9028]

Awesome interview

[@TwissPaper]

Shane Douglas is a underrated wrestling Legend you wouldn't have the gimmick of Triple H the game without the gimmick of the franchise Shane Douglas one of the best to ever do it in my opinion

[@myronedwards7699]

Shane Douglas Today would have made a perfect Horseman back in the 80s, He is excellent on the mic and Good wrestler!

[@sese6227]

I was always a HBK fan, but it really sucks that he was such a scumbag. Even now, after he found God and all that jazz, he never really owns up to the stuff he did. He just chalks it up to being young (30s is old enough to know better imo) and blames it on his substance abuse.

[@coreyshelp9313]

Shane had a great career with or without the interference of the cliq...1st ECW champion, arguably THE greatest ECW champion...and he gave goldberg his greatest match in wcw without a doubt....

[@tomhood7343]

The Dean was a pretty good character in the WWF and he did great promos. The Kliq just ran him out of town, bottom line.

[@GrayRedRoom]

No. The Dean was a terrible character.

[@josemontano7767]

Very good interview its good to hear the other Side of this story.

[@kenrickkahn]

Vince let the Kliq did whatever they wanted.. I'm starting to believe the Vince and Shawn rumors..

[@die2no]

I think the whole Kliq was too sweet if you know what I mean.

[@zaryalace7475]

A person doesn't act so confidently unless they know the boss has their back. And boy, HBK was way more than confident.

[@reedyrips0109]

I just recently met him twice, he was fantastic. He's an excellent guy

[@Nyfancam01]

i SWEAR from that photo i clicked... I thought that was MODERN DAY Bam Margera lololololol

[@thenatureboy1837]

He should've went into business for himself with the Razor Ramon match.

[@taekwondotime]

I bet Vince kept Scott Hall in the room (or somebody) just in case a wrestler shot on him when they didn't like what he had to say. Basically a bodyguard for Vince.

[@alwaysamysteryyes2021]

When i watch a Corny shoot, he is the best. When i watch a Shane shoot, he is the best. No one else comes close.

[@Ken9284]

"Unless you want your ass stretched get up and wrestle" .......And that folks is what caused Douglas' downfall in WWF/E. Michaels was the 'Golden Boy' at the time and got everything he wanted.

[@zaryalace7475]

That's cause HBK gave everything the boss wanted. Contrary to what his entrance lyrics say.

[@wolfieform9514]

Shane Douglas best heel ever 😎👍👌

[@GrayRedRoom]

LOL.

[@louiscsanko9322]

loved the heat between Shane and pillman in ECW

[@daniel022209]

Shane Douglas's account of the conversation he had with Vince McMahon legitimizes the fact that Vince was not in it for the wrestling business. It was all about sports entertainment. Shane Douglas had enough knowledge where he could have been a successful owner of his own wrestling organization or helped build another.

[@MrMcKane]

Vince McMahon: *"We believe that the fans should go home happy"* Me: Points to One Night Only 1997 *"Did any fans go home happy that night?"*

[@louiscsanko3673]

NOW THEY LET 20 FANS IN ON SMACKDOWN, WEARING COVID 19 MASKS/ GLOVES AND THE WRESTLERS ARE BEHIND BULLET PROOF GLASS//

[@IronMan_thno]

After all the shoots I've listened to and watched, I really only like about 4 wrestlers or associated to wrestling people. Macho Man, Owen Hart, Jim Cornette, Mr. Perfect.

[@jamiemoll4128]

Shane was a character you wanted to hate but loved the whole deal! Him and Francine were the absolute ultimate team!

[@MDJ-wb1pn]

I like listening to Shane.

[@Nazzlover38]

Don't stretch his bum, Franchise! It'll hurt! :D

[@wagsoman]

Exactly another story of why it is most likely something more than a professional relationship between Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels to allow the Kliq to have control essentially of his company in the 90s. No matter what anyone says with the steroids scandal in the early 90s it was possible to make many other wrestlers stars without giving control to four wrestlers.

[@inigotaylor9401]

Franchise gives the best shoot interviews, not bitter, no ego just honest accounts of the business. HBK sounds like a gross human being, He may have the list of accolades but as man he strikes me as worm hiding behind his born again self righteous crap. The sad thing is if it would have been booked right as the franchise character, Douglas could have had amazing feuds and matches with hall, hbk, Nash (that might be pushing it) etc.

[@rawdogcardbreaks2270]

Damn Shawn was my favorite now I just see him as a sad blad guy

[@pvsg6843]

Still looking good legend

[@hunterwolf6898]

THEY DID MENTION HIS LEG BEING UNDER THE ROPE WHEN HE WAS PINNED BY RAZOR THO

[@scotshuthats5268]

Damo Blamo love the back story. Shane is a straight shooter. Great listening to this History.

[@greggsharum140]

To say this guy has never drawn a 'dime" is laughable.. he was a big part of those crowds and in the success of ecw both directly and indirectly

[@alwaysamysteryyes2021]

Love the gum chewing impersonation!

[@iluvinternalcombustion]

The Franchise is speaking the truth

[@rogueprince1341]

No matter what Shane has my respect. Anyone that signs up to teach today's children is a hero. They are underpaid, overworked and taken for granted and kids today are a bunch of little spoiled entitled bastards.

[@calicored3076]

He kinda sounds like what we call a tuff guy 20years to late....

[@geneanthony3421]

For the life of me I can't understand how the Kliq would have an issue with Shane (especially Shawn and Hall) considering their previous relationships. He seemed to already have a good relationship or at least decent with all of them. Hall also looked out for Dallas and Larry for helping him early in his career.

[@alexpratt99]

Because Shane takes himself way too serious the guy can’t take a joke to save his life

[@peacemaker9915]

I would take Shane Douglas at his word before I would believe anyone else. The problem with him was, he was never the guy to keep his mouth shut so he always stood alone. I’ve been in that situation many times

[@FutureHonest]

i wonder which place he is talking about regarding the show in Lansing, MI since i live here. maybe the breslin center at MSU or what is now called the lansing center downtown, could of been in that. when i was much younger, i do remember going to a WWF show in Lansing, MI at an arena, which I think is now the Lansing Center, but it was a great show and Macho Man was there

[@jesusjimenezhernandez7163]

I love how tells it like it is about those Kliq bullshitters!!!!!!!!!!!

[@donbrown91]

😂😂😂 that gum chewing impersonation

[@thomaspurcell6442]

Scott Hall wasn't in the WWF/WWE in 1990-1991.

[@corey2232]

Shane's actually wrong about one thing - they did show the replay of his foot going under the rope against Razor. Several times. King points it out & is screaming hysterically about it, then upon a second look even Vince comments & says King is right. Just looked it up to remember it.

[@johanneduardschnorr3733]

I’ve always thought the kliq was the reason Cowboy Watts walked....

[@andrewbuchhalter5292]

Love Shane’s mind for the business and his storytelling; however, he’s wrong about the commentary on the finish of his IC match with Razor Ramon. I just rewatched the In Your House from October ‘95, and there was direct commentary acknowledgment of the fact that Dean’s leg was under the ropes and outside of the ring. Jerry Lawler defiantly mentioned it, then they cut to a replay from an angle which clearly showed Dean’s leg under the ropes and outside the ring. After that replay, both Vince and JR acknowledged on the broadcast that Lawler was correct and Dean’s leg was under the ropes. Perhaps they didn’t focus on it to Shane’s satisfaction, but it was definitely acknowledged on the PPV.

[@buddyholly5716]

only god knows how much i hate scott hall and shawn michaels

[@adriancarlos9155]

I hate them all apart from SW he seems cool but has a bad choice of friends

[@illkid86]

@Michael Anderson Shawn was overrated if he was so good why didn't he draw money? Fuck outta here with that b.s.

[@Planet.Mykl.Anderson]

I didn't think of Shane Douglas, until now. Believable from the top of the program to the end. And he still looks like he could pull your head off your shoulders as you lie in a bloody puddle.

[@justinfortner7411]

Shane Douglas was CM Punk before CM Punk was CM Punk.

[@brianthomas3451]

In that in your house match during the leg under the rope finish, Jerry lawler mention Douglas leg under the rope, Vince was like “well ref didn’t see it”

[@devilxking2]

Shane has beautiful eyes, fuck. Anyway, ol HHH stole his whole 1999-era look and gimmick from Shane's ECW run.

[@christhornycroft3686]

All I can say is, the more I hear from Shane/Troy, either in a shoot or a work, the more I respect the guy and the performer. I can say the opposite about guys like Paul Levesque, Kevin Nash and Michael Hickenbottom. I think Waltman is an okay guy, but from a young age, he wanted to hang with the cool kids as we all do, and it got him into trouble. Troy Martin is an educated guy, so he was smart enough to avoid some of the nonsense, even if it hurt him career wise with the big companies who pay the big money. Im hoping AEW can continue to be the company they seem to be. No BS, put on a good, fan centric wrestling show and go home without the politics or the drug issues. Stick to cannabis, guys!

[@willnicklen4196]

Nice guy top guy

[@WildBillCox13]

Shane has a clear head. Vince is a puppet master and everything . . . and I mean EVERYTHING he does is a work. All the "injuries", all the vengeance (significant, career affecting, injuries due to "stupid, last minute changes" on incoming WCW guys), all of the "WTF" moments . . . it's all a work. He's a Marvel Super Villain. He is the ultimate con man. You'll understand better in a few years when physical debility forces him to let go.

[@jasonceravone777]

Davey boy’s story was accurate about Syracuse except they were Army not Marines

[@jamesb1988]

When you have two sides to a story, you can nearly always figure out who is telling the mostly true side... CONSISTENCY. Whoever tells the same thing over and over again is 9/10 times the person to believe. People lie to make themselves look better, but that becomes an issue for them because they start adding on things they thought of along the way that makes them look better. Sometimes it's real subtle, sometimes it's blatantly obvious. Take note next time you encounter a "who to believe" scenario. You'll see what I mean. Long story short, Shane is telling the truth and the Klique lique dique.

[@turtlecantalkgaming128]

anyone else see this thumbnail and think Bam Margera had aged 20 years in 1 week?

[@LJF_JR]

Although Shane clearly got a raw deal unfortunately all due to the timing and the politics going on at the time... it cannot be denied that it is absolutely hilarious to imagine Vince saying “we put the belt on you tonight...and then at that point...........” and pointing to the shadows while staring straight at Douglas and all the sudden you hear that *tire screeching* sound or whatever that sound was that played prior to the Razor Ramon theme hitting, then the music hits, the laser light Razor Ramon logo starts flashing on and off on the floor in front of dark area.....(totally conceivable to imagine that at this point Vince is already in commentator mode, most likely building up the suspense, saying “is it?! Is it!? YESSS! YES! THE BAD GUY RAZOR RAMON! TAKE A LOOK IF YOU WILL, HE IS OOZING MACHISMO!”) as out of the darkness comes Razor doing that vintage Bad Guy walk, toothpick and all... now yes, I know it’s so insane to imagine it happening this way but it is hilarious to wonder... because despite the insane idea of this happening as I described we have to admit that knowing how crazy Vince is and how he doesn’t give a f*ck about doing crazy stuff, it’s at least something that could have had a chance of happening LOL hell I could even bet Vince thought of doing it this way and Hall maybe talked him out of it prior.

[@jpayne3616]

I don't give a damn what anyone says. The dean character worked for me. I enjoyed it even though it was short lived.

[@kaioh187]

I really enjoyed watching Shane in WCW and especially in ECW. I would have loved to see the Triple Threat face Degeneration X and Degeneration X get the Triple Threat over in WWF.

[@bystandah9626]

That wouldn't have happened. Come to think of it, all three members of the Triple Threat (Shane Douglas, Chris Candido, and Bam Bam Bigelow)were in the WWF around the same time in 1995 and the Kliq fucked all of them over in different ways.

[@kaioh187]

Would have been a good payback for what they did to them and it would bring something new to WWF at the time.

[@bystandah9626]

Agreed. That would have been good to see.

[@zerocool1ist]

Shawn fought off 50 navy seals or was it a hundred lol BUT that night did start the romance between Shawn and Tammy Lynn Sytch. I believe its what they call the FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE EFFECT

[@illkid86]

Shawn got his ass kicked stop it

[@roberthasudungan1546]

HBK fought off 50 Navy Seals lmao 🤣 bullshit, he couldn't even beat Marty Jannetty

[@maxdecphoenix]

I've heard enough "Shawn sabotaged our match" stories that I believe that was the sole reason Vince kept him around. And it's not like they're conjecture. And they're not even stories, you can watch the fucking videos and see it; just like shane mentions here. Maybe after Hogan burned him in the 90s Vince decided he needed a pocket ace to keep the big talent in line, so he takes this physically unimpressive wrestler, who dresses like he walked out of a gay western porn and traipses around like a faery, and you just have him start sandbagging guys to get enough reputation that even the fans see it . That's the only explanation for how that guy could sandbag huge names and manage to stay around. He was Vince's insurance policy.

[@big_dro1713]

The Kliq didnt deserve Shane Douglas as a friend.

[@RoundDaFur]

Vince had a intense relationship with Shawn...and that's the reason Vince took Shawns side. it's inappropriate but it's true.

[@louiscsanko3673]

HE SURE DID// WAS IT HBK WHO CALLED VINCE[ MCMANICAN] BECAUSE ANY OTHER TALENT WOULD HAVE DONE THAT [ YOUR FIRED!!!]