Shannon Sharpe GETS COOKED in Jordan vs LeBron Debate

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Uncut Hoops

Uncut Hoops

Күн бұрын

The newest member of First Take has come out on fire. Hope you enjoy.

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@uncuthoops
@uncuthoops 8 ай бұрын
And don't worry guys that Rich Paul response video is in the making as we speak.
@CasualGamerPlays
@CasualGamerPlays 8 ай бұрын
I was wondering if you were going to cover the recent Rich Paul comments.
@dontaerussell3397
@dontaerussell3397 8 ай бұрын
Rich Paul needs to lay off whatever he's on..
@twilitezn
@twilitezn 8 ай бұрын
That 2018 season is VERY deceptive by the way : - league was in transition - only one 60 win team : Houston - neither Conference was particularly competitive Which makes the whole “KD Superteam” narrative a little suspicious : - the 2018 Warriors we’re NOT as good as the 2017 team - they took their foot off the pedal, and coasted during the regular season. - Lebron’s path through the Eastern Conference was at “JV” level, and even though Kyrie had left he still had KLove - 19/11 in the Finals - and a deep bench. - his EC competition (Cavs were the 4th seed) : Pacers (Best player : Oladipo) Raptors (BP : Lowry/DeRozan) Celtics (BP : 2nd year J. Brown) FIRST : anyone saying that a PRIME LBJ team, going against THAT field, ISN’T the favourite in every series, is being completely disingenuous. For context : the Rockets were the #1 seed…but NOBODY had them as the Favourite against the Dubs! SECOND : of the three EC series they played, the Cavs demolished the #1 seed Raptors (which they always did) in a sweep…but struggled against the lower seeded teams - both went 7 games. The East was MEDIOCRE, and yet the Cavs - the favourites - still had problems. THIRD : The Dubs WEREN’T unbeatable : the Rockets showed that…game 1 against the Cavs showed that…. My overall point is that while you can say that beating the Dubs may have been a bridge too far, Lebron taking the Cavs to the Finals with “no help” is overblown…
@ijamorris3449
@ijamorris3449 8 ай бұрын
I can't wait!!!!!
@tmoney360
@tmoney360 8 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe argues his MJ vs LeBron points like a Filipino run LeBron love Facebook group. He literally sounds like a MJ hate meme. I'm waiting for him to mention Muggsy Bogues and using that as the definition of the 90's. The moment he said "Magic was like 75" he made it clear how limited his debate skills are. I'm certain Rich Paul and LeBron literally give him a script. 55+ year old former pro-athlete talking like a FB tween is pathetic.
@rogermyles606
@rogermyles606 8 ай бұрын
If 6-0 is nothing, then 4-6 means ABSOLUTELY nothing
@legendbot5624
@legendbot5624 8 ай бұрын
Nobody said it did lmfao, Jordan media brainwashed NPCS into thinking an irrelevent stat such as 6-0 actually mattered. "Winning" until it's the first round, where losses there don't matter nor exist
@HiNRGboy
@HiNRGboy 8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@fritopendejo5181
@fritopendejo5181 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing!
@doktor3196
@doktor3196 8 ай бұрын
Why not go 1-9
@MH-lk8md
@MH-lk8md 8 ай бұрын
It’s true. Individual accomplishments are how you measure GOAT status, not championships.
@arteksta1943
@arteksta1943 8 ай бұрын
I’m convinced Shannon Sharp is on Lebrons payroll
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 8 ай бұрын
He is, it’s been well established already. Not just him but Nick Wright, Windhorst, Dave McMenamin, Perk etc
@tryingtochangemyways5074
@tryingtochangemyways5074 8 ай бұрын
Yes he gets a klutch sports check
@mosessupposes2571
@mosessupposes2571 8 ай бұрын
Also his dinner date
@michaelangelograves5903
@michaelangelograves5903 8 ай бұрын
To busy ridin' his nuts to be on his payroll.
@vince0078
@vince0078 8 ай бұрын
Joy Taylor exposed live him years ago about it. Even Stephen Jackson said that he heard about that !!!!
@donnietrump9517
@donnietrump9517 7 ай бұрын
6-0 means 100%. Imagine if MJ was to play 20+ years and no breaks, he might be 10-0!!
@user-ep2es1mp5r
@user-ep2es1mp5r 7 ай бұрын
Probably 12, Phil and they had it if they wanted it, they new team play
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 5 ай бұрын
6-9 he lost 9 seasons
@user-xm6jq8jc6y
@user-xm6jq8jc6y 4 ай бұрын
He would of been 8-0 if he wouldn't of retired in his prime for 2 years. And not just 8-0 it would of been 8 in a row.
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 4 ай бұрын
@@user-xm6jq8jc6y you fools forget he lost in 1995
@dionbowen17
@dionbowen17 4 ай бұрын
Would haves and ifs don’t count. Even if we’re using what if scenarios and Jordan won 10 championships, he would still have one less than Bill Russell so does that make Bull Russell the greatest of all time. He actually does have 11 championships in 12 appearances. The argument shouldn’t be who is the GOAT. It’s who you like the most. There are way to many variables to ever determine who actually is the best of all time.
@anthonyderosa3265
@anthonyderosa3265 7 ай бұрын
One of the best breakdowns I've seen on this topic. Great commentary.
@mistwiir4011
@mistwiir4011 8 ай бұрын
Will Smith needs to slap Shannon Sharpe and tell him to keep Jordan's name out his mouth. lol
@J23LA24
@J23LA24 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@anselmmcintosh6939
@anselmmcintosh6939 8 ай бұрын
Slap some sense in his head because he doesn't know what he is saying 😂😂
@ronb3913
@ronb3913 8 ай бұрын
This is why comment section needs to be taken away
@scottiedpoy8508
@scottiedpoy8508 8 ай бұрын
@@ronb3913 Comment sections are living proof that Liberals are right, Men are indeed becoming women
@Jkg496
@Jkg496 8 ай бұрын
@@ronb3913😂
@dafundraiser563
@dafundraiser563 8 ай бұрын
The fact that Shannon Sharpe bold enough to fix his mouth to say Jordan didn’t play anyone is so disrespectful to everyone in that era. That “He played plumbers” bs needs to stop
@CHINA2TAPS
@CHINA2TAPS 8 ай бұрын
He did tho hahahahah. the competition actually isnt similar Lebron has 10 rings in MJ's position
@JetEngine85
@JetEngine85 8 ай бұрын
​@@CHINA2TAPSyeah? Why only 3 championships and 6 losses on a weak conference playing with 2 all stars though?.. 10 championships hahaha you are funny dude
@carmcam1
@carmcam1 8 ай бұрын
​@@CHINA2TAPSmj got results, lebron got excuses after excuses.
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 8 ай бұрын
@@CHINA2TAPSand put MJ on the 2011, 2015, 2017 they’d win. And 2018 he’s not getting swept. So stop with the conjecture arguments
@ijamorris3449
@ijamorris3449 8 ай бұрын
​@@CHINA2TAPShow old are you???
@Rumble225-qe7fy
@Rumble225-qe7fy 5 ай бұрын
That’s ultimately the problem with this so called debate. In order to make it debate they have to try to tear down MJ accomplishments cause their crush can’t live up to them. That in itself ends debate. 10 scoring titles with 9 all defensive times if it’s so easy someone do it I guarantee it’ll never be done.
@randycastro5290
@randycastro5290 16 күн бұрын
And DOPY!!!
@musicandremixes
@musicandremixes 7 ай бұрын
the 90's nba time was just awesome, especially the bulls with jordan, pippen and rodman
@maddawgjax
@maddawgjax 8 ай бұрын
I love what Kwame Brown said about Shannon Sharp! " He sleeps with Lebron blankets and pillows! 😂😂😅
@jamesstarter
@jamesstarter 4 ай бұрын
Don’t nobody care wtf kwame bust says 😂
@maddawgjax
@maddawgjax 4 ай бұрын
@@jamesstarter apparently you do this is why you responded! Kwame played 12 seasons in the league he wasn't no bust he didn't have all of those high standards Lebron had
@jamesstarter
@jamesstarter 4 ай бұрын
@@maddawgjax actually i could give af fuck less but you made a weak ass point to post a dicksuckin comment about kwame brown under a Jordan and lebron debate. Who the real fuckin wierdo here?!? 🤣
@jasoncoomer1226
@jasoncoomer1226 3 ай бұрын
After seeing how Shannon now dresses you probably could have left off the words "blankets and pillows" and it would have fit better
@edgarblanchard2988
@edgarblanchard2988 2 ай бұрын
Man that shit was funny 🤣😅
@JetEngine85
@JetEngine85 8 ай бұрын
Shannon wanna talk about who MJ faced in his era but one thing is for sure, Shannon will never in his life talk about who lebron was facing in the weak east while he was in his prime playing constantly with two other all stars.. that would just destroy the narrative
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 8 ай бұрын
Just like Chicago
@JamesLee-nw8kz
@JamesLee-nw8kz 8 ай бұрын
​@@melvynsngltn27Chicago was trying to get past the bad boy's Pistons finally got past them by sweeping the bad boy's out of the playoffs the same way the Denver Nuggets swept the Lakers this past season.. lol 😂
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 8 ай бұрын
@@JamesLee-nw8kz Chicago was the favorite going into the 1991 playoffs. Also that was the weakest Pistons team since 1986.
@JamesLee-nw8kz
@JamesLee-nw8kz 8 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27 Nope they wasn't the Pistons were coming of back to back championships.. Dude I was there 21 years old at the time born and raised in Detroit
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 8 ай бұрын
@@JamesLee-nw8kz and the had there worst season since 1986 right or wrong? Isiah had his worst season ever right or wrong? Isiah even got benched during the playoffs right or wrong. Like I said Chicago won not taking nothing away from them but they were already favored before the playoffs started
@billabonggolkpr
@billabonggolkpr 7 ай бұрын
The teams in the 90's were just objectively better. The competition was just better by leaps and bounds.
@ale1988ish
@ale1988ish 7 ай бұрын
In Jordan's Era, one meant everything. Ask Barkley R. Miller, Malone & Stockton, etc
@MrJ1S
@MrJ1S 8 ай бұрын
Damn so magic won mvp at 72 and was the runner up at age 73? That better longevity than lbj 😂
@reunion_k9375
@reunion_k9375 8 ай бұрын
👍
@BbbFffish
@BbbFffish 8 ай бұрын
Magic was 31 in that finals, Mike 28. Steph Curry is 35, same age MIke was in his last finals.
@MrJ1S
@MrJ1S 8 ай бұрын
@@BbbFffish yup and the ages of the 1991 pistons line up with that of KD era warriors
@chumcalmdown
@chumcalmdown 8 ай бұрын
W comment
@argelong7314
@argelong7314 8 ай бұрын
Why the debate? Hahahaha waste of time.. no arguement needed.. for this
@JAGWAH66
@JAGWAH66 8 ай бұрын
How's it that people forget to mention MJ has not one but two Olympic gold Medals. One as an amateur, and one as a Pro. Both teams never lost and his amateur team actually beat the NBA players. SMH
@samuelvelez1643
@samuelvelez1643 8 ай бұрын
IN FACT: MJ IS 11 - 0 IN FINALS, INCLUDING NCAA, OLYMPICS IN BOTH AMATEUR AND PROFESSIONAL, DREAM TEAM, NBA FINALS
@brainzor777
@brainzor777 8 ай бұрын
How could anyone forget LeBronze, hahaha
@gemArsen
@gemArsen 8 ай бұрын
​@@brainzor777right? It took Kobe to go over there before they brought home the gold.
@phillyphan1346
@phillyphan1346 8 ай бұрын
What no one seems to mention about MJ's olympic teams is that at the time, basketball was not a global sport. I mean the best foreign player in the 90's was a 6th man of the year candidate in Toni Kukoc. The best foreign players in today game are a stratosphere better than those in the 90's. Another example of how today's players are much, much better (more athletic & more skilled) than the 90's and past eras.
@JAGWAH66
@JAGWAH66 8 ай бұрын
@@phillyphan1346 Youvsoind like a crazy person. None of what you said is true, just myth. Players today are all point guards with ZERO fundamentals. Today's NBA player is a joke.
@mrho4speed
@mrho4speed 4 ай бұрын
Great video and thanks for sharing. LOL at Shannon when he thinks he can make an argument by raising his voice and yelling lies = like Magic was 73 years old!!
@aaronmyers6540
@aaronmyers6540 7 ай бұрын
It was great hearing Steven A cook Unc but it’s even better seeing the breakdown…good stuff my guy🤟🏾
@MannyMensah94
@MannyMensah94 8 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe doesn't have the credentials to talk basketball. 6-0 means something.
@MannyMensah94
@MannyMensah94 8 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 why Lebron won 4 instead of 10 championships?
@mosessupposes2571
@mosessupposes2571 8 ай бұрын
He’s just a drama queen who talks waaay too loud 😂
@MrSmitty1074
@MrSmitty1074 8 ай бұрын
@@mosessupposes2571 Clowns provide free entertainment.
@mainey52
@mainey52 8 ай бұрын
6-0 does mean nothing as an argument, when you have people who have won 7-0 and 8-0 and bill won 11. Can’t use nba championships as a definitive reason. That’s a team accomplishment not player accomplishment. Hell argument can even be made that Kareem is the goat all time over jordan
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
Wait why you say that
@tedlogan5628
@tedlogan5628 8 ай бұрын
Sharpe cracks me up when he says Magic was too old in 1991 (32 years old/just won MVP 2 seasons prior, Lakers were a very good team that year), but Lebron beating Duncan and the Spurs in 2013 when Duncan was 36 and then getting beat (4-1) by 37 year old Duncan is completely different 😂. Come on, Shannon…let’s keep things reality!
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 8 ай бұрын
Yea it makes no sense, not only that look how LBJ fans add years to LBJ’s age. You seen them now saying “look at LBJ doing this at 40 years old”...so that means we can do the same, that means he lost to 39 year old Duncan lol
@timmaz24s
@timmaz24s 8 ай бұрын
Two years prior! Magic won mvp in 1990 and was second in 1991.
@jackwoods9604
@jackwoods9604 8 ай бұрын
How About The Celtics Team "Ray Allen" Beat...They Were Senior Citizens...Shannon Ignores This Though
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
1991 magic got hiv bro no yours facts
@jackwoods9604
@jackwoods9604 8 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435 Trying to Compare Lebron James to "Michael Jordan" is Like Putting a Silk Hat on a Pig
@user-ji1wx4rs1i
@user-ji1wx4rs1i 8 ай бұрын
This is a darn good analysis. Thanks for putting out all these facts
@cesarrosa4644
@cesarrosa4644 4 ай бұрын
Shannon Sharpe and Kendrick Perkins need to buy knee pads when they get around Lebron!!
@FEDEXLuchs
@FEDEXLuchs 8 ай бұрын
"he had nobody" unironically with the 2011 Miami Heat with 4 HOF on that roster like holy fucking shit
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, that argument holds no weight bc even when he does have help a superteam at that, he still fails lmao.
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 8 ай бұрын
What 4 Hall of famers was on that 2011 heat team???
@LarryDonnell-sd7rv
@LarryDonnell-sd7rv 8 ай бұрын
@@melvynsngltn27 if you telling me wade bosh and allen ain't then you a slow lebron fan by your logic pippen ain't a Hof also because wade is better than pippen so 🤷🏾‍♂️
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
You people obviously don’t watch it how many times did his teammates get hurt like almost every season lebron never did you people all probably forget pippen getting hurt and Jordan lost to Shaq and a game 7 but it wasn’t the finals so he’s good do get you guys
@nicholasmcdavid4787
@nicholasmcdavid4787 8 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435 MJ fans don’t talk about Jordan losing any other years he ain’t make the finals lol. If that was the case then they would mention how MJ had back to back to back first round loses. Lebron didn’t get a first round lost til 2021 at the age of 35. It’s actually a very tiresome debate. That’s why other sports debate are better. Look at the NBAs HOF compared to ANY other sports. The Nbas is meaningless cuz any and everybody gets in, even without winning much in their careers. “Charles Barkley” my man example of this.
@user-ji9vl9lg9i
@user-ji9vl9lg9i 8 ай бұрын
The way Shannon is yelling like that just proves he knows he is wrong himself lol
@258athletics
@258athletics 8 ай бұрын
I been telling ppl this for yrs. All he does is say the most generic statements and if u don't agree, he says it louder
@ILikeIt62
@ILikeIt62 7 ай бұрын
This is the best breakdown & layout I have EVER seen. Whoever Dude is that put this video 2gether deserves an award....
@MJW1509
@MJW1509 7 ай бұрын
These are the details that get looked over, nice work 👍🏾
@vudujl83
@vudujl83 8 ай бұрын
Shannon will keep getting cooked if he continues to spout nonsensical things like longevity with more losses than wins, acting like Magic was a washed old man, or social media scrutiny (Rich Paul); his 21-year storm didn’t seem to cast a cloud over the entire NBA
@carlosrobles5591
@carlosrobles5591 8 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone has cooked Shannon on the Jordan vs LeBron because unfortunately, most personalities on TV defending Jordan are terrible at remembering his accolades and numbers, yet they still can beat Shannon because the difference is so overwhelming. You can't really say lefraud is the goat without making a fool out of yourself.
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 8 ай бұрын
@@carlosrobles5591 I think they do that in purpose just to keep the debate going, if SAS or Skip really wanted to they would’ve called out Shannon for saying he had MJ as the goat for years and even Kobe over LBJ until klutch came calling. They won’t bc it would destroy the whole debate.
@edwardtatum6136
@edwardtatum6136 8 ай бұрын
Next Shay gonna say M.J. didn't face Jason Terry.
@luisrodriguez-mb7cc
@luisrodriguez-mb7cc 8 ай бұрын
Jordan? He faced the 1991 Lakers, the 1992 Blazzers, the 1993 Suns, the 1996 Sonics, the 1997 and 1998 Jazz. Each of those teams had at least one or two Superstars and Hall of famers. Plus, he disposed of the Pistons, Knicks, Pacers, again with superstars and hall of famers. Did LeBron leave a Superstar Hall of famer without a ring? Jordan did: Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Stockton, Miller, among others, never won a ring because of Jordan. You catch my drift Shannon Sharpe?
@marcodraven9778
@marcodraven9778 8 ай бұрын
A lot of players on those teams FEARED MJ, you don't hear that about LJ.
@joelabon7604
@joelabon7604 8 ай бұрын
Nah! Bcoz Shannon sharpe is so dumb 😂😂😂
@Mike1122.
@Mike1122. 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think any of a lebrons title teams would beat the teams the Bulls beat. His teams couldn’t even beat Orlando and an aging Boston team. When his teams were favored they lost to Dallas and San Antonio. There is no debate!
@CHINA2TAPS
@CHINA2TAPS 8 ай бұрын
actually highschool compared to todays league. you people dont know anything about basketball
@zinjgreen3398
@zinjgreen3398 8 ай бұрын
​@@CHINA2TAPSHighschool in todays league? Shaq and Kobe lost the the Jazz, Lebron didn't win until the 90's star were gone, btw Wade won his first chip in the 2000's something Lebron couldn't. That is why Lebron run to Wade to win only to loss the old Mavs which couldn't win a chip in the 2000's.
@2aforteens517
@2aforteens517 7 ай бұрын
Nice job with the stat comparison. Well done!
@R2HAZ3
@R2HAZ3 7 ай бұрын
I subbed from this video. I like your breakdown.
@davidvelasco510
@davidvelasco510 8 ай бұрын
Lebron playing 20+yrs, but you can also say in a more physical era Jordan played all 82 games 9x. Even at 40 he played all 82 games. LBJ just once in a softer era.
@jordananthony5882
@jordananthony5882 8 ай бұрын
Early 2000 pistons Nets Bulls Noah Luel deng Shane battier toney Allen keynon Martin's Ron artest. 2000 to 2010 wasn't no defense playing but hard fouls era but still damn good. Let's not forget the Ltrain who always got closed line or wrapped up b4 scoring.
@jamesw5713
@jamesw5713 8 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room is LeBron has been smashing PEDs for over a decade.
@renierelagazo7888
@renierelagazo7888 8 ай бұрын
exactly. that longevity argument is bs. his longevity came from self preservation, while mj always wanted to play and compete.
@Tyler1too2cold3
@Tyler1too2cold3 8 ай бұрын
90’s defense is overrated. Wasn’t that much “tougher”. Only the fouls were harder. Hand checking is overrated as well
@Tyler1too2cold3
@Tyler1too2cold3 8 ай бұрын
@@renierelagazo7888Why couldn’t Jordan’s prime be longer if he took a year off from the game then retired then came back? Stop moving the goalpost
@chrisrenshaw6372
@chrisrenshaw6372 8 ай бұрын
Mj 3 peated twice something lebron can never do LeBron can try to twist the narrative only ones with his cronies in the media but the fact of the matter is LeBron James will never be in the same league as Michael Jordan
@andrewhite5353
@andrewhite5353 8 ай бұрын
I don't even know why MJ / LJ is being debated. Without question MJ is in another league to LJ. MJ transcended the sport and made it global. You can only fully understand MJ''s impact on the game if you think globally.
@raymondvankenie3106
@raymondvankenie3106 7 ай бұрын
Everyday this debate gets more and more laughable
@dman1069
@dman1069 2 ай бұрын
Like ur vids man keep it up
@DaMixWizard
@DaMixWizard 8 ай бұрын
Do Shannon Sharpe realize Magic Johnson was only 31 years old and MJ was 28yrs old in that 1990-91 NBA Finals. But also, do Shannon Sharpe know that Steph Curry was 30 yrs old when Steph Curry beat LeBron in the 2018 Finals? So Shannon Sharpe, that was a dumb argument
@PhDFlopping
@PhDFlopping 8 ай бұрын
Jordan didn’t play “plumbers”, he was just so far above everyone else that he made them look like “plumbers” in comparison
@edwardtatum6136
@edwardtatum6136 8 ай бұрын
L.J. lost to backcourt of J.Kidd and Jason Terry. All world duo!
@mikef6063
@mikef6063 8 ай бұрын
@@edwardtatum6136 when they were old too
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you Jordan was just on another level
@gripstop5ive116
@gripstop5ive116 7 ай бұрын
They were plumbers and can’t hold a candle to the superstars our rn
@mikef6063
@mikef6063 7 ай бұрын
@@gripstop5ive116 😆 Ok gen Z
@drelucious6486
@drelucious6486 7 ай бұрын
KJ was a beast I remember watching him play against the Lakers always been one of my favorite players
@Dapper_Dean
@Dapper_Dean 8 ай бұрын
They had a Jordan era. But did they have a Lebron era? No! Did Jordan ever get swept in any finals? No! Bron? Twice! And Bron having the most career turnovers, takes him off the GOAT conversation. 😉😂🤣
@nasmaxfit
@nasmaxfit 8 ай бұрын
MJ dominated during the NBAs greatest era of centers
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
Wait name the centers
@nasmaxfit
@nasmaxfit 8 ай бұрын
@@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, Sanonis, Parish, Moses, thats just off the top of my head.
@nasmaxfit
@nasmaxfit 7 ай бұрын
@@theroster906 hakeem & shaq. Plus Duncan isnt a center, MJ also won 2 rings while duncan was in the league.
@Vortex_Feedz
@Vortex_Feedz 7 ай бұрын
@@theroster906nigga forgot about Shaq 💀 u trippin
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 7 ай бұрын
Did he face them in the prime in the finals lol
@SarasotaMover
@SarasotaMover 8 ай бұрын
Uncut Hoops has the best damn NBA analysis of any channel I've seen. Bar none.
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
Yeah this channel is 🔥🔥
@korkor1020
@korkor1020 7 ай бұрын
Great analysis on the HOF counts, definitely enjoyed it
@gabodee
@gabodee 8 ай бұрын
"MAGIC WAS 73!!!!!!" LOL I love Unc but he wrong on this topic every single time.
@HeathOverledger
@HeathOverledger 8 ай бұрын
He was there and knows Magic was still in his prime lmaooo
@JoeKen3
@JoeKen3 8 ай бұрын
Exactly!! Magic also was the league's MVP in 89 and 90. He finished second to MJ in 91 - Magic was still Magic
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 8 ай бұрын
That’s what they do, they disrespect past Greats. That’s why nobody likes lebron because of his fans
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
Ayoooooo🤣😂😭
@Calaman228
@Calaman228 8 ай бұрын
LeBron can play for another 20 years and he will still be under MJ, accolade wise.
@HiNRGboy
@HiNRGboy 8 ай бұрын
another 50 years and still under MJ 💀
@FkTheUFC
@FkTheUFC 8 ай бұрын
He will never win another championship or mvp so yeah.
@brendagray9601
@brendagray9601 8 ай бұрын
@@FkTheUFC 😆😆😆
@brendagray9601
@brendagray9601 8 ай бұрын
@@HiNRGboy 😆😆💀
@brendagray9601
@brendagray9601 8 ай бұрын
@@FkTheUFC I Think The NBA Is Ready For Him To Retire
@user-yt6en5xy5q
@user-yt6en5xy5q 7 ай бұрын
Finally a comment section that gets it. Great video.
@sonnynguyen9103
@sonnynguyen9103 7 ай бұрын
Can anyone name a GOAT in any sport who has more final losses than wins?
@sowuteva949
@sowuteva949 8 ай бұрын
OMG I just realised, Jordan didn’t just prevent teams from being recognised as great and what not. He to say roughly ruined some “HOF” careers as well. Truly the 🐐
@cfl4286
@cfl4286 8 ай бұрын
Check the stats and accolades. Karl Malone would undoubtedly be a top ten player ever if MJ hadn't prevented him from winning chips.
@kookurikapooh
@kookurikapooh 8 ай бұрын
People forgot who Clyde Drexler was. People now clown on Charles. People now discredit and underrate John Stockton even tho he holds both records for assists and steals-and sure, Karl… but fuck that dead-beat pedo… seriously, two potential NBA phenoms if Stockton and Karl had one or two rings had it not been for MJ. Magic could’ve won another ring and beat out Bird-cementing himself as the legitimately, undoubtedly better player and would probably be considered the GOAT. People now forget who Kemp was, and some even underrate Payton. MJ did indeed ruin a few legacies. 10 Finals APPEARANCES can’t do as much damage when you win less than half of em.
@chieflancewaiters7034
@chieflancewaiters7034 8 ай бұрын
Wait till you realize Bill Russell won so much that nowadays nearly everybody else from that era except Wilt are called plumbers
@daevonthesavage7483
@daevonthesavage7483 8 ай бұрын
@@chieflancewaiters7034 shit outside of stats, Wilt also gets crucified for not winning more lol
@a.k.7840
@a.k.7840 8 ай бұрын
Yes, MJ never had to face a goliath team like the 2017-18 Dubs... that's because MJ made his team the goliath team!
@anthonystevenson830
@anthonystevenson830 8 ай бұрын
Trying to use stats to justify 6 looses is laughable 😅
@3trakman3
@3trakman3 8 ай бұрын
Always using the "team accomplishments" in the debate between individual players is pretty funny too. Especially when there's guys who got more than MJ.😅 Wheres the rings when he wasn't on the best NBA team?? Appearances ?? Conf F??
@anthonystevenson830
@anthonystevenson830 8 ай бұрын
@3trakman3 championships is what matters few years from now another player is gonna break records but the one thing they cant take away is championships i would rather have a guy that won more then lost.
@3trakman3
@3trakman3 8 ай бұрын
@@anthonystevenson830 U should only debate Temnis and professional 🎱 then lol. Or make me believe BJ Armstrong is a better PG than CP3. That’s how your logic works😂
@anthonystevenson830
@anthonystevenson830 8 ай бұрын
@@3trakman3 and you should debate professional lacrosse or hockey based on your knowledge of the game of basketball
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s hilarious
@kendallwilliams4440
@kendallwilliams4440 2 ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the MJ vs Bron argument!!! Probably the best argument I've heard for the GOAT aka His Airness, ive heard!
@williamjoseph4829
@williamjoseph4829 7 ай бұрын
Anyone arguing for lebron gets cooked…every time.
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue 8 ай бұрын
If Jordan never retired in 93, 98, doesn’t break his foot and doesn’t only play 68 games dude would be #1 in scoring by far
@lfranklin118
@lfranklin118 8 ай бұрын
You are correct sir. I don’t LeStans understand had MJ not broke his foot his second year, or lost his dad after the 93 3peat,and Jerry Krause hadn’t lost his mind in 98 Jordans numbers would be a lot more. Let not forget MJ didn’t have the luxury of coming right out of high school and go straight to the pros.
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
If if if he didn’t what if he got drafted by a different team what if he didn’t have the best coach and running mate
@elisampley7598
@elisampley7598 7 ай бұрын
And if he didn't go to college. MJ averaged 2152 pts per season. If he had played 19 seasons he would have 41k points....
@Dc-kk9bd
@Dc-kk9bd 7 ай бұрын
If wilt chamberlain didn't quit basketball to become a hall of Fame volleyball ball player he would have had more 100 point games than Jordan had 50
@AntiNeoFascist
@AntiNeoFascist 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, quitting, not playing for 2-3 years, then coming back and playing again is frankly more impressive to me than someone that just continued to play the whole time.
@BlkDiesel
@BlkDiesel 8 ай бұрын
Whats more IMPRESSIVE to me is MJ won 3 straight championships, lost his father, went an played baseball, came back lost to the Magic with Shaq and Penny...and rededicated himself, knocked the rust off and won 3 more straight and was Finals MVP in every one.
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 8 ай бұрын
​​@@BlkDieselyep. People forget people doubted Jordan would ever lead his team to a championship again after the loss to the Magic. So he prepared and repeated the same rare feat of leading a team to 3 consecutive championships for a second. Emphatically answering all those who doubt he could. He did it a second time with a completely different teammates and playing a different way then he did the first three-peat.
@monterriomoore4641
@monterriomoore4641 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@thenytelyfe
@thenytelyfe 8 ай бұрын
I’m going say that the bulls teams in between those years were 50+ win teams
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
Haha what you talking that’s no where more impressive but I forgot we are talking about Jordan so it is 👍
@DirtCheapFU
@DirtCheapFU 7 ай бұрын
I fell out of my chair laughing at those extra baby steps. 0:32
@EniyanValentine
@EniyanValentine 7 ай бұрын
LMAO
@karmothegamer7878
@karmothegamer7878 7 ай бұрын
Pretty well explained and elaborate. Good job.
@rogerbeck3560
@rogerbeck3560 8 ай бұрын
Shannon wants to change the narrative so he can ask a different question, but LeBron will always be looking up to Jordan. Yes 6 -0 in finals with 6 count them 6 finals mvps. That's the nba record and Jordan holds it. At the rate that LeBron is winning 40 precent in finals he would have to be playing in his 50's just to tie Jordan 😮.
@antoniomiranda8691
@antoniomiranda8691 8 ай бұрын
You mean 20% in the finals.
@rogerbeck3560
@rogerbeck3560 8 ай бұрын
@@antoniomiranda8691 4 wins championships out of 10 finals (40). However if we count its taken him 20 years to win 4 that like 2 every 10 years now that's 20 percent. Heck if we look at this stat alone there are what ? At least 6 players that has a higher win percent with least time or the same. Jabbar,, Kobe, Magic, Shaq , Duncan and Curry.
@antoniomiranda8691
@antoniomiranda8691 8 ай бұрын
@@rogerbeck3560 Yes. I was looking at total yrs.
@scottiedpoy8508
@scottiedpoy8508 8 ай бұрын
Meh, I would rather just have LBJ at 2 and not whine about bullshit that provides 0 context instead. You look like a woman all in your feelings over it meanwhile I don';t implicate myself with the dumbest viewpoints possible. He lost as the favourite once so that stat is meaningless and proves no context. All it does is announce to the world that you are feminine, the mans an all time great and you kids WHINING ALLLLLLWAYS, STEADY HUM. Can't even discuss other players in the league because you LeWomen get too emotional and bring LBJ back into it
@dannybachner899
@dannybachner899 8 ай бұрын
Magic was 31 worthy was 30. Clyde was in his absolute prime Terry Porter also was averaging 21 a game in the playoffs. Prime Barkley and Kevin Johnson. The whole Sun's team was stacked go check out the averages. Prime kemp and Payton. And late in their prime but still prime stockton and Malone. thats just the finals Opponents. I don't Remember Jordan facing anyone that wasn't in their prime or was too inexperienced. The bulls were just so good defensively they made some teams great teams look mediocre sometimes.
@hwgmafia7375
@hwgmafia7375 8 ай бұрын
Seattle Supersonic had a very good squad back then they was the first lop city Hersey Hawkins was my guy from 3pt range he was deadly when hot
@258athletics
@258athletics 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@REPinFire
@REPinFire 7 ай бұрын
yall talking as if Jordan face them teams alone. hilarious.LMAO
@alexmohr1072
@alexmohr1072 7 ай бұрын
@@REPinFirethey certainly wouldn’t have won without him. Go look at who has 1st place in almost every stat in the nba per game.
@REPinFire
@REPinFire 7 ай бұрын
@@alexmohr1072 certainly would not have won if pip wasn't on his side right? Point is, bulls was just a complete package, a super complete package. Compared to? ....
@johnk9876
@johnk9876 Ай бұрын
I love your channel always spit the facts
@wargoddrew
@wargoddrew 7 ай бұрын
Best video iv seen yet
@willn8664
@willn8664 8 ай бұрын
Honestly. Malone would have ran through KD and Stockton would have schooled Curry. Each of the 90s Bulls team's competition would have destroyed each of Lebron's competition in all his finals appearances if you legit matched them up. The ONLY possible team that would have a chance with the 90's teams would be the 2013 Spurs due to their fundamentals plus the Heat BARELY beat them in that Finals. Lebron can thank Ray Allen for that.
@vickystokes8514
@vickystokes8514 8 ай бұрын
Thank u! I was waiting 4 someone to make this point.
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
Probably not
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 8 ай бұрын
Nah.
@vickystokes8514
@vickystokes8514 8 ай бұрын
@@smoothsavage2870 yeah
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 8 ай бұрын
@@vickystokes8514 If they couldnt handle the firepower of the Bulls. They damn sure wouldnt have been able to deal with the Warriors. The only teams with the offensive firepower of the Warriors were the 80s Celtics and Lakers.
@anthonyphillips8393
@anthonyphillips8393 8 ай бұрын
This is probably single handedly the best Jordan v LeBron breakdown I’ve ever seen/heard. Very well researched and put into context VERY well!
@nik69583
@nik69583 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis !!
@papijoshilikeoww7931
@papijoshilikeoww7931 7 ай бұрын
The best video on this
@cbegin09
@cbegin09 8 ай бұрын
Funny thing is Shannon says 6-0 is nothing this is coming from a guy is 3-0 in Superbowl smh. Shannon should be ashamed of himself for saying that. 6-0. Jordan face great competition plus Chicago were the dominant monster to beat.
@benjamink7105
@benjamink7105 8 ай бұрын
Why are we talking about Shannon Sharpe? He played like 30 years ago, obviously he was trash and didn't play against anybody since athletes have all evolved so much in the last 2 or 3 decades. Right Shannon?
@scottiedpoy8508
@scottiedpoy8508 8 ай бұрын
It is meaningless, Jordan is 6-12 in the NBA and its mainly used to point out stupid flaws in LBJ. LBJ losing against teams that are expectied to beat him is why that is nothing. Yall whined so hard you did it to yourself. Bring some logic to your viewpoints and it can go back to just being he won 6 rings and how each of them were valued
@simonjeremy1776
@simonjeremy1776 7 ай бұрын
@@scottiedpoy8508 and LeBron is 4-20 in the finals, what's your point?
@scottiedpoy8508
@scottiedpoy8508 7 ай бұрын
@@simonjeremy1776 i already made it clear? I also commented on his record so why are you telling me it? Yep? Yea you never read a word i wrote haha. So many of you losers lately
@FatherManus
@FatherManus 8 ай бұрын
Lebron fans love to say “Jordan played more than 6 years!” Fine, I agree. Jordan is 6-15 for finals wins and Lebron is 4-20. That’s even worse for Lebron. Lebron played longer, has been in his prime longer, and still won less titles when he had more time to win.
@chieflancewaiters7034
@chieflancewaiters7034 8 ай бұрын
Better for magic though 5-13. Right there with Jordan
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
Put lebron on those bulls teams he’s winning all 6 no question
@FatherManus
@FatherManus 8 ай бұрын
​@@brianharron3435 Can I borrow your alternate universe viewing telescope? Clearly you must have one if you are claiming hypotheticals that you can't prove. We can all make up things we can't prove. Jordan would have won 2 more rings if he didn't retire in his prime. Jordan would have won every ring Lebron won plus the ones he lost. Jordan would have won vs Dallas in particular. But in the real world none of that happened and Lebron still failed to match Jordan in rings, let alone surpass him. If Lebron was better than Jordan he should have MORE rings, not less.
@SoCalClip
@SoCalClip 8 ай бұрын
@@brianharron3435don’t forget to dust your knees off and clean your king Lebron James up after your done having him deep down your throat 💀😭😂😂
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
It’s a team sport buddy is pippen or Rodman got hurt and missed the playoffs Jordan isn’t winning that year noway
@Tunesnthings
@Tunesnthings 7 ай бұрын
I’m convinced MJ smashed Shannon’s girl back in the day. He hates on Mike every chance he gets.
@mlc4050
@mlc4050 7 ай бұрын
This is the kind of BS that you have to debate when you're forced to fill 2 hours of sports banter every day
@christianmorgan5956
@christianmorgan5956 8 ай бұрын
Let me say this. If MJ is 6-0 in the Finals because "He DiDnT pLaY aNyBoDy" (8 HOF, 4 60 Wins, 2 57+) Then why do these dumbass hype LeBron's 8 straight Finals when he was playing Bums every year in the Eastern Conference. Just to get destroyed in the Finals. Make it make sense
@TheAustrianPainter87
@TheAustrianPainter87 7 ай бұрын
It was tough getting past the Raptors every year to the finals you know. 😅
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 7 ай бұрын
Jordan 2nd year he played like 16 games they won 30 got to the playoffs the nba was not the same
@clintonwashington3246
@clintonwashington3246 8 ай бұрын
Can I ask a logical question without LeBron fans getting offended? How does playing a KD led GSW Team for 2 seasons define the rest of his other 19 seasons he played? He was drafted in 2003 was he not? Did he play the GSW for 10 years? SMH
@NorthElevation
@NorthElevation 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t we all watch the same video? That was said in the video, so why are you asking that like it wasn’t already addressed?
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
You do remember the Celtics formed a team to best Lebron then the spurs had a hall a fame squad but jordon would have scored 85 on any team and beat them right I am a Jordan fan but Jesus he wasn’t unstoppable when he had the greatest coach greatest rebounder greatest defender and and the Celtics and pistons studs were on the way out yet sure Jordan won took and few seasons off and came back to the same team because they were loaded if he won or even made the finals in his early years be impressive
@Sf75178
@Sf75178 8 ай бұрын
Celtics did not firm a team just to beat LeBron. You repeating that rubbish is sad
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
Ok bro I’m from Boston remember what KG said
@andrdmosley
@andrdmosley 8 ай бұрын
​@@brianharron3435You have it backwards... LeBron formed the heat to beat the Celtics... You sound ridiculous when you say the Celtics formed a team to beat a player they had never ever faced! Lol... LeBron had never played the Celtics before the Celtics championship year... Why would they form a team to beat a player who just got swept in the finals and a player they never played before? That makes sense to you? Now on the other hand the Celtics literally dominated LeBron 3 years in a row and most ppl believe made him quit the last year in 2010... LeBron literally joined forces with Wade to specifically get past the team who kept beating him... You can't say that at all about the Celtics
@donaldmcgee6334
@donaldmcgee6334 5 ай бұрын
The team Jordan faced that was close GS was the 86 Celtics. Now it wasn't the finals, but they did have 5 HoF'erms. Bird, McHale, Parish, Walton, Johnson
@folusojoseph989
@folusojoseph989 3 ай бұрын
Jordan and the Bulls NEVER won against that team. Not even once.
@vellberrysr.4022
@vellberrysr.4022 2 ай бұрын
They can't say that cause Jordan was only in the league 2 years.coming in in 84 while LeBron had been in the league 10 years before that Golden State team was formed
@rjtimtiman8483
@rjtimtiman8483 7 ай бұрын
Sharpe thinks that he can win arguments by talking loud and over Stephen A 🤣
@anthonytomb8857
@anthonytomb8857 8 ай бұрын
jordan played with less hof players and former mvps than lebron did.
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390
@baconeggcheesepodcast9390 8 ай бұрын
That’s a fact
@lastofthemohican8148
@lastofthemohican8148 8 ай бұрын
Anyone who seriously thinks that James is even close to Jordan has an IQ of less than 50. The only other professional athlete that could compare to the domination within their respective leagues was Wayne Gretzky. Jordan has done so much more for the NBA than any single player in the history of the game. I cannot even believe this is a conversation.
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 7 ай бұрын
Bro Jordan won 6 times Russell almost double that it’s all about your team hence why Jordan only won 1 playoff game before pippen came alone don’t act like Jordan was unstoppable bro come one I was watching him for years lose before he won he didn’t just play 6 year my man lol
@voldemort008
@voldemort008 7 ай бұрын
Anyone that says it isn’t even close is just a love sick fanboy whose opinion means nothing lol. If it “wasn’t even close” there wouldn’t be such a debate over it.
@lastofthemohican8148
@lastofthemohican8148 7 ай бұрын
@voldemort008 it's not even close! It's a debate only because people who have only been alive to watch James think he's the best. Anyone who is old enough (me included) to have been fortunate enough to watch the entirety of both players' career, would always agree that it's not even close.
@lastofthemohican8148
@lastofthemohican8148 7 ай бұрын
@brianharron3435 the team is what allows individuals to win championships. I absolutely agree with you on many levels. All I'm saying is that the impact Jordan had on the game and the talent he possessed was far superior to James. End of story.
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 7 ай бұрын
I’m 52 born and raised in Boston bro watched Jordan tons of times get crushed by the Celtics once they got old just like the pistons the bulls loaded up and got there’s lebron is bigger stronger faster and a better passer and teammate but you know it all right
@kooladify
@kooladify 7 ай бұрын
Stats speaks Numbers counts..
@macleod1592
@macleod1592 7 ай бұрын
I get so tired of Shannon yelling and screaming all the time.
@09lowkey
@09lowkey 8 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly MJ did face prime Mark Price in the playoffs, that's as close as it gets to Steph Curry in the late 80s/early 90s. 12:49 - LeFlop sighting, MJ would never...
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE how Stephen A called Shannon out about his comments on Magic in 1991. He didn't say he was _old_ when Magic appeared on his podcast. And since when is 31 considered old?
@lfranklin118
@lfranklin118 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think people realize Magic was still considered in his prime at 31 and could still play. Had it not been for his HIV he still could’ve gave us 4-5 more years.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 8 ай бұрын
@@lfranklin118 He finished 2nd in MVP voting in 1991 and won the award in 1990. These guys are amping up 38yr old LeBron after my Lakers were playing like garbage for at least 70% of the season, but Magic was old??
@lfranklin118
@lfranklin118 8 ай бұрын
@@atlien1988 no sir Magic was far from old dude made an appearance at 92 AllStar game an gave them buckets. I felt like Magic could have made it to 95 then retire at the end of season or having one more go at MJ in 96 before officially retiring for good.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 3 ай бұрын
​@@lfranklin118 it was a rhetorical question
@alibabathe40thieves20
@alibabathe40thieves20 7 ай бұрын
You speaking FACTS.
@XxoxJDizzlexoxX
@XxoxJDizzlexoxX 7 ай бұрын
Jordan is the best player ever! Lebron might have longevity but Jordan shut down the league during the 90's Bron did nothing.
@all4joffrey92
@all4joffrey92 8 ай бұрын
Well done, sir!
@TheEndoKenzo
@TheEndoKenzo 8 ай бұрын
This the most forced debate
@vicepresidentmikepence889
@vicepresidentmikepence889 8 ай бұрын
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO LeBron james has won 10 conference championships Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@JetEngine85
@JetEngine85 8 ай бұрын
​@@vicepresidentmikepence889what?
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 8 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 LeBron never ever carried anything. He beat two 41 win teams and the Pistons without Ben Wallace. Then he choked on it in the Finals so hard he ruined his teams chances and then he had some of the worst playoff series in NBA history. Jordan was avg 43ppg on the greatest team of all time, he wasn't getting outplayed by 33y old bench players like LeBron
@pamelamichaud994
@pamelamichaud994 8 ай бұрын
More excuses
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 8 ай бұрын
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 who TF thinks some ridiculous pussy of 75 players actually means something?! Buddy you haven't even been watching basketball for 15 years you're just being fed the talking points and ZERO NBA history
@TheLordNugget
@TheLordNugget 7 ай бұрын
Lebron's defensive repertoire: flop Jordan's defensive repertoire: steals, blocks, no flops at all
@joej28
@joej28 7 ай бұрын
A football player and a dude who never played any professional sport debating on the best basketball player 😂😂😂
@jawuansanchez4077
@jawuansanchez4077 8 ай бұрын
When I watch LeBron play he makes me want to go to sleep when I watch Michael Jordan play he make me want to go outside and start playing basketball
@brianharron3435
@brianharron3435 8 ай бұрын
Because you were a kid now your old that’s what happens blame Lebron for it lol
@PetsNLuv
@PetsNLuv 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@thedewfr
@thedewfr 7 ай бұрын
Yes because you have Diabetes thats why you always sleep🤣
@gizmothesquirrel9094
@gizmothesquirrel9094 7 ай бұрын
Lebron cant dribble in iso situations
@berichlloieromarate3867
@berichlloieromarate3867 7 ай бұрын
Lebron make plays for team not only for himself. And that’s how basketball supposed to be done.
@donmiguelarkanghel9537
@donmiguelarkanghel9537 8 ай бұрын
This is what I keep saying. The only reason why there is still a debate is because those media men who argue on MJ's behalf poorly represents his case. They focus on anecdotes and not what's on paper. They keep repeating the 6-0 argument which is becoming tiresome. To make this comment short, the difference between MJ and LBJ is a Hall of Fame career.
@andrewhite5353
@andrewhite5353 8 ай бұрын
Not at all. MJ to basketball is like Ali to boxing. MJ transcended the sport and made it global. Until you understand the impact that MJ made on the game globally you will not fully understand why MJ is the GOAT and continue to only focus on stats as the final arbiter to make the decision.
@donmiguelarkanghel9537
@donmiguelarkanghel9537 8 ай бұрын
@@andrewhite5353 when you include impact to the game, MJ is almost untouchable. But we are discussing the greatest basketball player of all time. We only need to focus on what they did inside the court. Legacies, philanthropy, etc .. shouldn't be included. Anyway, MJ is my GOAT. All I'm saying is, the media focuses on the wrong things hence the debate is prolonged. The difference between MJ and whoever is compared to him is a Hall of Fame career.
@caddylover10
@caddylover10 7 ай бұрын
In the History of the NBA only 1 player has ever won a championship, mvp, fmvp, scoring title and first team all NBA on defense all in the same season....Jordan did it 4x. I beleive thats what the cool kids call a mic drop.
@jgon3717
@jgon3717 7 ай бұрын
6-0 means nothing. 2 3-peats mean nothing. The rarest things are worth the most.
@ballthemblack
@ballthemblack 8 ай бұрын
You know many LeBron fans stay bringing up the golden state warriors with KD in terms of who Jordan faced that type of team. That makes LeBron look really bad knowing he lost to them.
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 8 ай бұрын
The 96' Sonics would eat any of those warriors teams
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 8 ай бұрын
It’s a lame argument, not only bc it’s hypothetical to say “MJ would lose to them” but bc in 2017 Shannon/Nick and the rest of the LBJ fans said Cavs were gonna win in 4. They said how KD can’t beat LBJ, Kyrie is gonna cook Curry but as soon as LBJ lost the narrative changed from that to “they’re unbeatable, not even MJ could beat them” lol
@tryingtochangemyways5074
@tryingtochangemyways5074 8 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why they hate KD and still hate him to this day..And the man been in the league 21 years..Kobe,Wade,Kawhi,Duncan,jokic,curry and got rings during lebron watch..They acting like KD gatekeep lebron knowing he got beat many before and after that
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 8 ай бұрын
@@hakeemolajuwon4352THANK YOU!!!
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 8 ай бұрын
@@eazyduzit-tr3nxit’s a deflection
@Adaptation49.42
@Adaptation49.42 8 ай бұрын
LeBron, in 11 healthy seasons in Cleveland, won one championship, lost four finals, and got swept twice while going 7-19 overall😬 Jordan in 11 healthy seasons in Chicago, won 6 championships, lost 0 finals, and never got swept in the finals 😬 and had a career record of 24-11in the finals 😬
@auc2.0
@auc2.0 8 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Lebron got swept twice in the finals.
@mauricedavis1740
@mauricedavis1740 8 ай бұрын
there’s no comparison. Only delusional Lebron fans try to make the argument..
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 8 ай бұрын
Actually crazy what Jordan accomplished in 11 years, this is why he’s seen as the goat. Insane peak and prime, all lebron has is longevity.
@marcodraven9778
@marcodraven9778 8 ай бұрын
Let's add, with MJ's team had the best NBA record till GS, won 2x 3 peats, no team has accomplished that yet. Lakers w/1. LJ w/all of his "superteams" hasn't come close to 96 Bulls record and not at least one 3peat.
@MrSmitty1074
@MrSmitty1074 8 ай бұрын
MJ played on one team. He didn't call for help. LBJ called 911.
@damonsiegiel7855
@damonsiegiel7855 7 ай бұрын
This argument has gone plaid 😂 STOP ✋ 🛑!!!!!!! 😂
@mikewebb283
@mikewebb283 7 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@TheGreatest54646
@TheGreatest54646 8 ай бұрын
His thunderstorm takes games off in the regular season. MJ didn’t do that. Tell me how many times each person played all 82 games. One of them did it so many more times than the other.
@scottiedpoy8508
@scottiedpoy8508 8 ай бұрын
You ever been 6'9 and 270?? Wtf you talking about. The man played a TON of ball and this is what you whine about?? He is a giant human who has a ton of miles on his body. This complaint is so juvenile and childish. HOW needy are you lol. Do you understand Biology and how it works? You do realize its a lot more energy and wear and tear the larger you are? That many minutes played and you still whining, thats impressive to be honest.
@Patriot-Vibez
@Patriot-Vibez 7 ай бұрын
those road to chip stats were absolute fire too...adding that to my arsenal
@wpriddy
@wpriddy 8 ай бұрын
The bulls were the 2017-2018 warriors.
@TSmitty-ec7ll
@TSmitty-ec7ll 7 ай бұрын
A sneaky Jordan championship argument is he's the only all timer who three peated twice. That will never happen again
@sudiekbrown4038
@sudiekbrown4038 7 ай бұрын
The GAP is a hall of fame career 😂
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 8 ай бұрын
Almost had forgotten what an emotional child he agues like..
@chilidrummer8333
@chilidrummer8333 8 ай бұрын
6-0, only 1,5 superstars around him (Pippen sure, Rodman had no offense), a beast on both ends of the floor, dominated the era of the Dream Team - and never left Chicago, even they sucked for many years. All this should finally end the discussion on who’s the greatest ever
@auc2.0
@auc2.0 8 ай бұрын
Toni Kuckoc was good too, but yeah Lebron had way more talent on the teams he’s played on.
@chilidrummer8333
@chilidrummer8333 8 ай бұрын
@@auc2.0 of course Kukoc was good, no doubt about it. But compared to who LeNarcissist had on the teams: Wade, Bosh, Allen, Irving, Love, Davis - all superstar players. Did I forget someone?
@auc2.0
@auc2.0 8 ай бұрын
@@chilidrummer8333 Yeah Lebron also played with Westbrook and even though Howard,Rondo,Carmelo were past their primes they still were very effective at that point in their careers whom Lebron also played with.
@gamebred-gannicus2060
@gamebred-gannicus2060 7 ай бұрын
It is not even close. I do not know why this is even an argument. Jesus Great job breaking this down!
@Tiy51
@Tiy51 2 ай бұрын
This was the best argument Ive seen
@diegozepeda1019
@diegozepeda1019 8 ай бұрын
As soon as Shannon starts yelling, you know he doesn’t have a rebuttal
@ijamorris3449
@ijamorris3449 8 ай бұрын
Finals being outscored by a finals opponent or a teammate Bron 7x Jordan 0x. But Bron never had any help...🤔
@blakerobinson2803
@blakerobinson2803 8 ай бұрын
Micheal Jordan didn't have to face a 2017-2018 Warriors team because the Micheal Jordan Bulls team was the warriors back then.
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