Kingdom of Heaven (2005) Reaction & Review! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

[@chaost4544]

This is one of the best directors cut ever. It's silly this wasn't the theatrical release.

[@drew.168]

I remember watching it one day on TV, not knowing they had done a directors cut, felt like I had never actually seen the movie.

[@wolf99000]

I liked the movie in the theatrical release but this cut explains so much more it also brings up question like the priest being an angel and not real or so I read

[@quiett6191]

The director's cut tells such a complete story that the theatrical cut feels like sabotage.

[@dsmith4136]

The director was ordered to cut an hour from the movie because movie theaters wanted to have extra showings each day. This movie is better than Gladiator.

[@zeeshanzafar2843]

I mean there's no difference between 2

[@harnois75]

Edward Norton deserves a lot of credit for playing the King behind that gold mask.

[@chernobyl68]

in the theatrical release his in fact uncredited at his request! he wanted the king to be more mysterious

[@harnois75]

@@chernobyl68 I'm not saying he should have been actually credited, that's his choice, just that 17 years later his contribution shouldn't be overlooked just because of the anonymity.

[@anonimuso]

I never knew that it was him. Wow.

[@LadyIarConnacht]

@@anonimuso I really loved his performance but it took me quite a while to find out who played the mysterious king.

[@NATIVESUNSETS65]

@@LadyIarConnacht Norton's performance was brilliant without ever seeing his own face ." Assemble The Army ! " The history about The Leper King Baldwin IV is intriguing he defeated Saladin twice in battle once when he was 16 and his army heavily out numbered at the Battle of Montgisard . Reynald de Chatillon fought for King Baldwin and in real life was beheaded by Saladin himself for refusing to convert to Islam

[@danielallen3454]

What Balian told Guy was essentially, "If you decide to live, live better. You are a knight. Act like it. Or just sit there and bleed out".

[@grantdowling8550]

Guy said it himself, he was really there because he wanted to be killed. He had been shamed in the eyes of all Christians and had lost all influence.

[@Korica]

The real history behind this story is fascinating. Saladin already had the city under siege when Balian came to him, asking permission to enter so that he could gather his family and escape with them. Saladin agreed. Inside, the people begged Balian to take up the defense of the city. Balian returned to Saladin and asked permission to defend the city, and Saladin allowed it.

[@kevinnorwood8782]

Saladin didn't just allow Balian to defend the city, he even sent his personal guard to escort Balian's family to safety so they would be out of the city and away from the fighting.

[@dieweissehand]

source?

[@kevinnorwood8782]

@@dieweissehand We have multiple primary accounts from both the Crusader side AND the Saracen side confirming this, among them Salah-Al-Din's chief chronicler and brother, Nur-Ad-Din.

[@dieweissehand]

@@kevinnorwood8782 I was already looking for this, but I can not find such a Text. Source pls

[@andrewtate8466]

muslims - "source; trust me bro" @@dieweissehand

[@zulby09]

Shan, this film’s events took place in between the second and the third crusades. The second last scene shows King Richard the Lionheart on his way to the holy land to conduct the famous third crusade by joining up with other rulers of Europe.

[@wolf99000]

Yea there is stuff in there that was not real history its a mix of real and not

[@goatman9998]

This is more like ending of the first crusade. Second crusade events was not shown. And Richard the lion heart heading towards Jerusalem is the beginning of third

[@carlossaraiva8213]

@@goatman9998 Not completely correct. Balian's father was part of the second criusade, as he recounts his exploits during the siege of Damascus.

[@gabsrants]

Yes! Director's Cut, just like this movie needs. The theatrical cut is ok, but the extended cut makes it a way more rounded story.

[@TJMiton]

A criminally underrated historical film.

[@Astuga]

It was Ok, but nothing exceptional. And sadly quite wrong in its depiction of this historical period. Which wouldn't be a big deal if people didn't take it for reality. kzbin.info?search_query=the+real+crusades+history+kingdom+heaven

[@FF-bj4nq]

@@Astuga Could you give some examples of truly exceptional historical films? I would like to watch

[@Astuga]

@@FF-bj4nq "Maximilian and Marie De Bourgogne" or simply "Maximilian", is a 2017 German-Austrian three-part historical miniseries. Also "Zrodzeni do Szabli / Born to the Sabre" That said, hardly any historical movies are exceptional in regard of being historical accurate. Of course they still can be entertaining.

[@k.v.7681]

It isn't historical. One of the reasons it is so hated is it's WILD liberties taken with history. It is good fun to watch, if a bit slow, but the issue Scott gets with all these movies is the "historical" marketing, just like with his latest movie about the "Last Duel", presented as history when the script is based on a "historicaly-inspired novel". Were it presented as fiction, those movies wouldn't have half the cabal of haters they get. In my language, they are classified as "epoch costume movies".

[@TJMiton]

@@k.v.7681 historical as in 'set in a historical period'. its obviously not a documentary.

[@Ruimas28]

For some historical details, lets get just the more important ones: . Balian was legitimate and a noble. He was very much very high status and close to the King of Jerusalem. This is how and why he was able to lead the defence of Jerusalem, which he did in real life. . There was no love relationship between Balian and Sibila. But Sibila and her brother did exist more or less like in the movie. The story of the lepper king is true. The son of Sibila was King of Jerusalem for a short time before he died. Very unlikely he was killed by his own mother. But Sibila and Guy did rise to power after. Real life Sibila seems like she truly loved Guy. And very unfortunately....she very much did all she could to steer Guy into power at her side. He might have been a good lover but it seems he was not the best strategist ever. . Reynald was an historical character but very unlikely he was crazy. He was in fact a very competent military leader. He did some pretty daring expeditions / campaigns. Its more or less clear that in real life he acted under the King of Jerusalem. But the dynamics of war were somewhat different. . The situation between Jerusalem and the muslims was way more complex. No, they were not wishing for peace and none had these unrealistic ideas that they could create a paradise. It was kind of a cold war situation but one where they would fight battles here and there on occasion. Each side would attack the other kind of testing their relative power. The lepper king had indeed won a major victory in his early youth and had a fearsome reputation. The muslims were a bit weary of going all out against him since they knew he could win battles. . The war kind of had a big turning point at the Battle of Hattin as depicted in the movie. Guy does not look like he was a very competent leader. He very much lead his forces into a trap and was obliterated. Then it was up to Balian to defend Jerusalem, buy time till other reinforcements could organize in surrounding areas. The city was lost like the movie depicts and there was indeed a truce which allowed a lot of people to leave. But the war did not end. And Balian lived his entire life around there, involved with several political conflicts.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

I’d like to add that Balin was there at Hattin an was one of the few that managed to lead a successful breakout The real Raynald was on King Baldwins side an opposed Guy being king

[@Ruimas28]

@@ComradeCommissarYuri Fine addictions. Yes, Balian was notorious at Hattin. And absolutely, Reynald was not a rogue crazy guy. He was very much a man of his time and by all accounts a good competent leader.

[@Karle94]

The movie is not depicting any actual crusade, but rather in between the second and third. The ending with Richard the Lionheart riding through is the start of the third one.

[@hettbeans]

I love Alexander Siddig in this. He was always one of my favorites on Deep Space Nine and he plays such a cool, collected character here. And Jeremy Irons is such an awesome hardass in this film, too. I played a paladin on WoW named Tiberias for many years. They're all so goddamn good.

[@thisisscorpio6024]

I recall hearing a story involving Saladin and Richard I. Saladin observed from a distance Richard being unhorsed and fighting, and he was very impressed. So, he sent out riders to give Richard a fresh horse so that he could continue watching Richard fight. (I think he gave Richard three (eventually dead) horses until he called a retreat and ended the battle for the day.)

[@MrVvulf]

Richard I had horses killed beneath him, but was only ever unhorsed by one person - William Marshal, aka "The Best Knight That Ever Lived" (so named by contemporary historian Stephen Langton).

[@cashblaster3475]

Watching this film after 15 - 20 years makes you realise what an all star cast they had, an insane amount of recognisable actors even in minor roles too

[@kuribayashi84]

The Score for this movie was written by Harry Gregson-Williams, but Ridley Scott chose to track music from other Films into certain scenes, including a Cue each from "The Crow" by Graeme Revell and "Blade 2" by Marco Beltrami (the 'What is Jerusalem worth?'-Moment). Most notably, the music playing during the 'Rise a Knight'-Scene before the final Battle is originally from "The 13th Warrior" by Jerry Goldsmith. I chose to believe that this was partly Scott paying Tribute to Goldsmith (whom he worked with twice) who passed away a year before "Kingdom of Heaven" came out.

[@chefskiss6179]

During the king's funeral, he also reused the opera music from his 2001 movie, Hannibal (Vide Cor Meum). It's a really beautiful piece: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHelZIOYeZlggs0

[@thewinner7382]

Harry Gregson Williams extended score is magnificent.

[@GhostEye31]

My favorite theory is that the Knight Hospitaller is an angel, since he seems to just appear when Balian needs him most.

[@Tampahop]

I didn't expect much from this movie, but was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. It had great heroes and great villains and a story that kept you engaged. The costumes were also outstanding.

[@lupercal6757]

yeah. you can imagine that grave digger or prisoner in the beginning had story like he didn't cut the wives head off and embarked on repentance road of his own and in the end found himself in Jerusalem knighted before the most important battle of that time.

[@Dowly]

One thing this movie does well imho is that it makes you feel like you're moving to different places. Hard to explain, but it just feels "vast" in some way.

[@hettbeans]

It's so funny how drastically better the director's cut is. I fell asleep watching this movie in theaters, one of like 3 movies I've ever fallen asleep in (the others being A Perfect Storm when I was a kid and when my friend made me see Rise of Skywalker a second time) but the director's cut is in my top 10 favorite films. Just exquisite, the set design, music, ambience, all beautiful.

[@bigneon_glitter]

👉 _The Duellists_ (1977) - Ridley Scott's debut historical masterpiece. You'd like it. Recommended.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I second this👍

[@chefskiss6179]

Absolutely, yes! And it still stands up; what an incredible first outing for a director.

[@serelryk5365]

I saw the theatrical cut when it was in theaters, and thought that it was "okay". Not terrible, but nothing that I was going to buy on disc, or anything that I'd care to watch again. Years later, I saw that there was a Director's Cut, and that it was like 45 (!) minutes longer. That made me curious enough to give the movie a second go, so I watched the Director's Cut. It's now still one of my personal favorite movies of all-time. To give those who are unaware, just one example: Sibylla's son, the one who had leprosy, he's not even in the theatrical cut. And I don't mean he's just not shown on camera, I mean that his character doesn't even exist. That's just one of *many* examples of exactly how much was cut and altered for the theatrical release.

[@TheTaelus]

Worked at AMC in San Diego when this came out. I loved it. The biggest thing people i knew or who watched it complained about was Orlando Bloom being too "young and cute" to lead the film. I think this had to do with LoTR and typecasting. Watching it now, he fits perfectly.

[@thomasgriffiths6758]

One of the men that's with Orlando Bloom and Liam Neeson is actor David Thewlis, he's an amazing actor, he starred in one of my favorite films a Mike Leigh British film called Naked, it is definitely worth a watch. A lot of people nowadays recognize him as Professor Lupine, the werewolf in the Harry Potter movies.

[@danielflynn9141]

The director's cut is definitely an improvement from the theatrical cut, which was cut because of Tom Rothman and his executive interference. There is much to admire about this film, but unfortunately as a historian, I cannot approve of this film. The problem I have is with the character of Balian. Balian of Ibelin was born a noble. He was not a bastard or a blacksmith. It is a historical implausibility for a bastard to be elevated to the rank of a noble upon the death of his sire. It is even more implausible, or dare I say, impossible, for other nobles to acknowledge him as such, and without the slightest protest or scorn. Scott is so determined to portray Balian as an outsider, which helps him explain things to the audience about a history they likely know very little about, that he undermines the very history he seeks to tell by presenting a deeply flawed protagonist. This Balian can simply not exist. He is also, in my opinion, and with respect to Orlando Bloom, a very good actor, horribly miscast. Bloom was also very ill during much of the filming and it was a punishing shoot, which may explain his somewhat dull performance. Still, some of the history is presented with authenticity, and the Sybilla character is given a significant upgrade with the restored cut.

[@adrianfuegoscuro6308]

This is probably my favorite period movie. Salahuddin's smile cures my depression, I'm not kidding. :D Great Reaction.

[@MrVvulf]

Saladin was one of the great warrior kings of history. As all men, he had shortcomings, and probably committed war crimes by modern definitions, but he was eminently honorable, and devoutly pious. He died with only 1 piece of gold, and 40 pieces of silver to his name, having given the rest of his earthly wealth away to help the poor.

[@MrVvulf]

@D Anemon I hear you, but can only agree up to a point. We would have to get into a discussion of whether it's immoral to kill someone who plans to kill you.

[@JnEricsonx]

The Saracen who is a aide to Saladin-who also does a good Undertaker imitation, is Alexander Siddig, aka Doctor Bashir from Ds9 :)

[@silversnail1413]

Great reaction to a great film. It gets some flak from historians for taking liberties, but it's definitely one of the most stunning and vivid depictions of medieval conflict during that period. And what a cast of brilliant actors. Even Orlando Bloom stands out and delivers one of his finest performances. Much like Oliver Stone's Alexander, it was brutally chopped by the studio and didn't get the recognition it deserved but was later redeemed by a Director's Cut.

[@pduidesign]

Good for you for watching this movie AND watching the Directors Cut. If the Directors cut was what made it to the theaters, this film would have easily been nominated and won Oscars just like Gladiator did. Oh well. The theatrical version is good but so so also. This version is absolutely epic.

[@janescribner8258]

The original scenes were shot at the Castillo de Loarre in Northern Spain. The entire movie is filmed in the most beautiful locations ... Segovia, Ávila, Palma del Río, and Seville's Casa de Pilatos and Alcázar. I love this movie. Completely agree that it was a shame that this wasn't the theatrical release.

[@tyrionlannister1628]

The Lepor King was portrayed by Edward Norton who did not want credit.

[@jamezmcc]

Delighted you went for the Directors Cut. It elevates everything about the original theatrical cut. Superb film, one of Ridley Scott's very best.

[@Curraghmore]

One point: 'Man on Fire' wasn't a Ridley Scott film. That was directed by Tony Scott, his brother (R.I.P.) who also directed the first 'Top Gun', 'Spy Game' and many more fine films.

[@86leewis]

Saladin also kept many Christian symbols and monuments in the city, he allowed Christians to come back there to pray

[@paulmccloud9395]

Ghassan Massoud was great as Saladin.

[@RadOstr1]

18:20 - shit, Edward Norton is amazing in this part

[@NmDPlm31]

You said you wanted to see a making of for this film. There is an extraordinary one called The Path To Redemption, which is contained within the 4-disc DVD collection of the film. It is a 6-part feature length documentary and covers all of the making of the film, from script development to siege battle, and also includes an examination of the historical origins of the story. That documentary is exquisite. One of the greatest making-of films I’ve seen. As to your question about how you get over the death of a child….you don’t. Ever.

[@cluster_f1575]

So glad you watched the Director's Cut. It's been awhile since I've seen both versions but I do remember the theatric release cut much of Sybilla's storyline with her dealing with her son's leprosy leaving me feeling a bit confused over her seemingly descent to madness.

[@chernobyl68]

the son was entirely cut out of the theatrical release.

[@beansfriend7033]

The relationship between Balian and his half-brother is also missing, IIRC, which makes the early narrative of the film ... confusing, to say the least. I know the film is fictionalized, but the theatrical cut is also unnecessarily muddled by the cuts. I think even the final confrontation between Balian and Guy is missing from the theatrical. A baffling decision!

[@Malryth]

@@beansfriend7033 I'm pretty sure the final confrontation between Balian and Guy is missing as well. It's been ages since I spun up my DVD copy (and I'm sure it's just a theatrical version). It didn't have the history about Sybilla's son in it, nor that final sword battle between Balian and Guy. I'll have to seek out this 3 hour version and give it a watch.

[@stephencook567]

The production quality is absolutely insane. Hollywood just simply isn't making movies like this anymore, I mean the big production movies are CGI superhero fights instead of practical costumes, real sets, practical effects. I will say that even though it flopped and apparently no one liked it, I thought that Ridley Scott's film 'The Duel' was phenomenal as well. But again I mean good lord the amount of talent and work that was put into Kingdom of Heaven is humbling.

[@drchaos2000]

this is the movie with the biggest impact of the directors cut i know. the normal movie is kinda meh and doesnt make much sense. but the directors cut is an epic story and a great movie

[@mongomongo7664]

And also I would recommend a KZbin channel called history buffs he will review and talk about this film and also about the Battle of Hattin.

[@Acme1970]

I'm glad you decided to watch the directors cut, it makes the movie make more sense, for example in the theatrical version when Reynald says to Guy in the jail cell "Is the boy in heaven?" i always assumed he was talking about Orlando Bloom but when you watch the directors cut you realize he's talking about the boy king.

[@lionlyons]

_Kingdom of Heaven_ is one of the few occasions when the Director's Cut actually feels like a totally different film.

[@phj223]

If long movies don't scare you, check out Hamlet (1996), directed by and starring as Hamlet himself, Kenneth Branagh. I believe it is the full play script, filmed scene for scene, and it clocks it at just over 4 hours. :) The cast reads like a who's who of mostly British theater veteran actors, but there are some other highly known actors as well, and there are great performances all around. I just love it to bits!

[@juvandy]

Yeah, it's amazing, and it is every single line of the play. It gets some flack for not being in a truly medieval setting, but being in a late rennaissance period actually makes it more contemporary with Shakespeare, so I never understood that critique.

[@chernobyl68]

Branagh has done many amazing Shakespeare films my personal favorite was Much Ado about Nothing (1993)

[@phj223]

@@chernobyl68 it's fantastic as well, as is Henry V 😊

[@TehFrenchy29]

And then follow that up some time soon after with the 1990 Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead starring the (very young) Tim Roth and Gary Oldman, and prominently featuring Richard Dreyfuss. It even doubles up on this film's King Richard, Iain Glen, playing Hamlet. Every scene of the movie that is a scene from the play is played perfectly straight to the dialogue of the play, but everything written around it is brilliantly existential and absurd tragic-comedy and wholly original to the play's writer Tom Stoppard.

[@ScarlettM]

23:29 - "Prolonged, close contact with someone with untreated leprosy over many months is needed to catch the disease. You cannot get leprosy from a casual contact with a person who has Hansen's disease like: Shaking hands or hugging."

[@rmcgavock1]

You should consider watching The Duelists, Ridley Scott's first movie (and some would argue his best!). Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@shimazutoyohisa2382]

The last battle is what Game of Thrones The Long Night should have tried to do but in a grander scale and longer. Incredible that Sir Ridley Scott in 2005 (really 2003-2004 when it was filmed) gave the Game of Thrones production teams a blueprint for an epic scale battle during the night in a seige type setting inside walls/castle yet they still fumbled the ball.....

[@swtiger]

One of the most underrated films. Despite the large historical inaccuracies in some places, it conveys the spirit of the era, events and atmosphere very well.

[@placebo5466]

Siiiiick. I was just looking up reactions for this movie last night.

[@chefskiss6179]

DUDE...! I'm just speechless... I'm just going to go out and get a lottery ticket just in case.

[@CybrSlydr]

I was fortunate enough to see the Director's Cut first - I absolutely adore this movie, one of my favorites! Cannot believe it didn't receive more honors and recognition than it did.

[@CsnvLsRnst]

25:20 The period the movie is set certainly belongs to the era of the Crusades, but the events depicted were not part of a Crusade itself. The First Crusade lasted from 1095 to 1099 and ended with the Christian conquest of Jerusalem and the formation of the Crusader States in the Levant (the County of Edessa, the Principality of Antioch, the County of Tripoli and, of course, the most powerful of all being the Kingdom of Jerusalem). The Second Crusade lasted from 1144, with the Muslim conquest of Edessa, and ended in 1149 with an astounding defeat on the Christians, and this marked the beginning of the end for the Frankish Kingdom; from then on, the Kingdom began to suffer from an internal weakening and division caused by the ambition of rival nobles, meanwhile the Muslim population of the neighboring lands (Aleppo, Damascus, Mosul, Egypt, etc) began to unify against it, both militarily and religiously, first under Sultan Nur al-Din and then under his (unofficial) successor, Salah ad-Din (or Saladin). During the reign of Baldwin IV, the Kingdom was on the edge of a knife, but despite the constant threat, and although there were a few battles between Jerusalem and the united Muslim Syria under Saladin, Baldwin managed to keep the Kingdom safe and secure for over a decade thanks to diplomacy and truces with Saladin; unfortunately, when Baldwin died from his leprosy, and his young nephew and successor Baldwin V also died (though not by the hand of his mother, and he most likely didn't have leprosy like his uncle), the Crown passed to Sibylla and Guy of Lusignan, and less than a year later, in 1187, the entire Christian military force was destroyed at the Battle of Hattin. After that, the rest of the Crusader States and cities (with the exception of Tyre) fell to Saladin, including Jerusalem. And the news of this loss shocked the European world to such an extent that not only did Pope Urban III die from a heart attack, but his successor, Gregory VIII called for a new campaign to retake Jerusalem, which we now know as the Third Crusade; this one was perhaps even more religiously motivated than the First, and is definitely the one that most passed into legend. So, in conclusion, the movie depicts the last few years of that small window of time between the Second and Third Crusades.

[@Grnademaster]

If you do not watch the director's cut of this movie, you have done yourself a huge disservice. I originally watched the theatrical version long ago, and when the movie ended, I simply didn't like the movie. Period. About a year later, one of my friends, who's a huge movie buff (and eventually made me the same way), wanted me to watch this movie. I said nah, I already seen it, and I didn't like it. He said, "No, you haven't watched the director's cut. Just watch it." I said pffft, I don't know. I really wasn't up to watch it again honestly. When I finally did, wow. The director's cut was amazing, and it COMPLETELY changes the story. I have never seen such a drastic difference between cuts.

[@anonimuso]

"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say “but I was told by others to do thus” or that “virtue was not convenient at the time". This will not suffice." Such a powerful message. Kingdom of Heaven DC is such an underrated film. One of my faves.

[@Roderik95]

I am surprised you did not comment, or perhaps you just did not include, any commentary on The Hospitaller. Especially the scene in which he appears behind Balian out of no where, without horse and likewise dissappears again without trace. There is a great video here on youtube called: The Angel Hospitaller? I found it very compelling.

[@IsraelShekelberg]

After the events in this film (not in itself a crusade -- more of a jihad), King Richard the Lion-hearted of England and Phillip Augustus of France launched the Third Crusade to try to re-take Jerusalem. This is alluded to at the end of the movie.

[@juliell2139]

Fun fact - Marton Csokas (Guy) and David Thewlis (the friendly knight) and Michael Sheen (the priest brother) were all in another medieval movie with a SciFi bent that you should def watch. Timeline was made 2 years before this one in 2003. Great film.

[@starvinforGarvin]

The king at the end was King Richard. While he is fighting in the crusades Robin Hood is running around England. Too bad Robin Hood isn't real though.

[@dbly50]

this is probably the only directors cut that i consider required, the theatrical cut is terrible barely a passable action movie but the directors cut is amazing also need to watch 13th warrior

[@hernandemornay7559]

The DUELIST , is the best Ridley Scott movie,may be the best movie ever!

[@Shadowman4710]

Agreed. It's certainly my favorite.

[@jrobwoo688]

Please react to Clerks from 1994. A small comedy made for a mere 27,000 dollars.

[@kmvoss]

Great reaction and review man. Fantastic film. Another historical movie that was panned on release that I enjoyed was Alexander (the final cut?). Maybe not as good as this one but still well worth a watch.

[@iconocast]

he let him live because at christianitys core is that spark of divinity is in all men and as such all men deserve a chance at redemption

[@pablojo5611]

Love this movie. You should watch a video about the confirmed theory about the hospitaller being an angel, it was quite mind blowing when I discovered it.

[@jimtatro6550]

“We prey to God to destroy our enemies, our enemies pray to God to destroy us, someone’s gonna be disappointed. Can you say everyone?” George Carlin

[@taifighter2095]

"And if God did not love you, how could you have done all the things you have done?"

[@serelryk5365]

Interesting side-note that was probably already mentioned in the comments lol: The Christian king was played by Edward Norton, who at the time wanted the credit for the role to remain unlisted (IIRC).

[@bugvswindshield]

10:28 Thats Jamie Lanister! before Game of Thrones !

[@briangreisen7875]

You are the eighth person in the world to have bothered to watch this movie

[@jonastiger1000]

I think I was the 7th, and I enjoyed it.

[@TheRealMediaMan]

This film is almost perfection. Still a few scenes I’d cut from the directors cut but overall a masterpiece

[@DanGer-dw1qx]

The hateful 8 had an intermission

[@brandonhill2183]

It takes almost everybody until after the movie to know Edward Norton plays Baldwin

[@scott8658]

Had never seen the Director's cut before, way better than the release I saw.

[@Fred_L.]

I saw the theatrical cut in cinema back in the day, remembering it well, and I thought it to be awesome, too. But indeed lots of stuff was cut that might have made things clearer. There was a Balian of Ibelin, actually a couple of them over time, but if I memember correctly that portrayal is pretty fictional. As for Saladin letting the population of Jerusalem go free, it wasn´t that simple. He allowed them to pay ransom to leave. Some could and did, some did for others, various groups found various ways. However the remaining ones, still at least thousands, were enslaved.

[@chernobyl68]

The heraldry for Ibelin is accurate but to the wrong period as it turns out. there's not much surviving from this period but they searched some old tapestries or paintings and found a depiction that included Ibelin from a later time and used that.

[@donnathomas6063]

I've enjoyed this film several times. The only thing that always annoys me is the way they show the castle of Kerak, because I've actually been there. It's a castle situated amongst many steep hills with a single narrow road to the gate. Nothing like the castle in a flat plain that they show here

[@recurrenTopology]

The movie takes place just before the start of the 3rd Crusade, which was initiated in response to Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem.

[@TravMaxAdventures]

An absolute top three movie for me. I could watch it over and over. Glad you watched the directors cut even though the theatrical was good as well. Just glad someone reacted to this film tbh. More reactors need to.

[@SlyRy]

One of the best “Director’s Cut” of anything. I should rewatch it. Also, if you haven’t seen it yet, Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood (2010) is like a sequel to this. It takes place in 1199 where a man named Robin returns to England from the Crusades. It turns into a Magna Carta story. It’s a decent enough film, entertaining and worth watching!

[@chefskiss6179]

Seconded. They should have called it "A Tale of England" or something, calling it Robin Hood just distracted it from all the other good stuff in it. I honestly believe Ridley is weaving together bits of history in his body of work and when he's gone we'll see the huge tapestry of history all connected together in his films. Prometheus would have been a great beginning to his history if it didn't get derailed into an Alien movie :/ But yeah, Robin Hood is wonderful... EVEN Scott's A Good Year.

[@gingerbill128]

i thought it was a truly dreadful film. Not a film i would ever recommend .

[@chernobyl68]

Thirded, check out the Directors cut of Robin Hood as well!

[@SlyRy]

@@chernobyl68 yep I own a Blu-ray copy!

[@sheryldalton8965]

Ridley's wife plays Saladin's sister. She's also Maximus's wife in Gladiator.

[@anthonyzarate9807]

Hey Shan, I just watched your The Thing (1982) reaction for the 2nd time. It is probably my favorite reaction movie to watch, and in my top 10 to 20 movies of all time. I know a lot of people are either turned off by the ending, love it, or unsure. I personally LOVE it because it keeps with the whole tone and atmosphere of the entire movie, even the very beginning! Anyways, sorry I'm off topic (this current reaction) but just watched The Thing reaction, and it's 5:30am CST. I was wondering if you did watch it a few more times (with friends), which you mentioned you would like to do? If so, how do you feel about the movie and the ending today. I think Ennio (one of my favorite composers) did such a great job of using less music, and more tones and beats to match the movie. Sometimes less is more. Also, I know you have a question of why "The Thing" takes over organisms and what was its motivation and why earth. IMO, I believe the landing on earth was not planned or intentional, but was fleaing another planet, and had no choice but to land on earth. All "it" wanted to do was find a way off the planet, and used it's strengths (when it was thawed) to try and achieve that goal. This is just my personal take, but it makes a lot of sense to me. P.S. Posted on this reaction because it was your most recent. Plus, I think you are one of the more serious and passionate movie reactors on KZbin.

[@elifineart]

Great movie and reaction. I'billin is not in the desert, it's in north Israel and today is an Arab village with a mixed population of Muslims and Christians (mostly Muslim), it's about 2 hours drive from Jerusalem, located on a beautiful green heels, i'm Jewish and live about 10 km north of this village where i visit often, it's a lovely friendly place.

[@chrism7395]

Ridley Scott, Michael Mann and Denis Villeneuve would be my go-to directors when you need to create a world or sense-of-place

[@TeamPohang]

Cut lol best dialog

[@pewburrito]

Hi @Shan Watches Movies are you going to do CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER?

[@potterj09]

It's an amazing period-piece film. It really feels visceral and all in place. Master film making. David Thewlis's character was my favourite. Real-life Paladin.

[@blorgin1]

How big is your PC? Looks massive haha. Excellent, knowledgeable commentary

[@Meggimagine]

They did a retrospective for Ridley Scott in Paris when Napoleon came out, when I tell I literally JUMPED to get a ticket when they announced they were projecting the director's cut for Kingdom of Heaven on the big screen. Chills X10000

[@chrisswanson8666]

the release to theaters was 45 mins shorter and had several less story lines and was ok at best..................this version is an alltime epic, the music, the production.............

[@justinmccarty3886]

absolutely fantastic choice. great film. I'm kind of surprised you haven't reviewed Hot Fuzz yet though...

[@josiprakonca2185]

Director’s Cut is a very different film, but it's still very inaccurate and anti-Christian and anti-Catholic. Balian was a good Christian and Crusader.

[@scifiauthor]

Historians aren't sure how Sibylla's son died, but he had been described as being sickly. Also, Saladin did let many Christians leave- but only if they could pay the tax he imposed. Anyone who couldn't pay was either sold into slavery or killed, I think. Still, it was quite merciful for the time. I have great respect both for Baldwin and Saladin. Great reaction.

[@reneescala7526]

The ime to react to a Spartacus Time to react to SPARTACUS (1960) and EL CID with Charlton Heston. both 3 hrs with overtures and intermissions.

[@bad-people6510]

I have significant issues with this movie due to its being OFFENSIVELY historically inaccurate and its, frankly, ignorant moral stance.

[@honestcat224]

FUN FACT : Both The King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem and King Richard I of England are great grandsons of Fulk, The King of Jerusalem. Making them Cousins. They're literally from the same house, The Plantagenets.

[@niemandkeiner8057]

Absolutely historically inaccurate but quite entertaining. Just like, well, Gladiator.

[@Curien247]

After the second Crusade and the Fall of Jerusalem. The Third Crusade led by King Richard the Lionheart to reclaim Jerusalem.

[@8301TheJMan]

This is actually one of the most historically accurate historical epics ever made. Yes certain things are added or taken away, the main character really existed, and he did hold off Saladin for a while, and when Saladin took the city he did show mercy to the Christians. Its also one of my fav movies too, this was way better than the theatrical cut and because the original cut was so bad this movie didn't receive the sort pf praise it rightfully deserved- if this version had been released instead

[@oliatonn]

The scenes from "France" were actually shot around Burgos, Spain. Breathtaking place btw

[@iKvetch558]

38:38 Balian is threatening "scorched earth" not "mutually assured destruction." "Scorched earth" is an ancient concept in warfare, "mutually assured destruction" is not. Not a big deal at all...just a thing that I noticed was misspoken. ✌✌💯💯😎😎

[@MrVvulf]

Please watch "Rob Roy", Liam Neeson's best period action/drama. Besides Neeson, the cast includes - Brian Cox, John Hurt, Jessica Lange, Tim Roth and Eric Stoltz.

[@pdus]

Great reaction Shan. The directors cut is really a great movie. I like to suggest for you to watch The Message (1976), a movie about the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Directed by Moustapha Akkad starring Anthony Quinn as the prophet's uncle Hamza ibn Abdul-Muttalib.

[@dawiebenjamin3249]

PLEAAAAAAAAAASE WATCH THE mission with ROBERT DE NIRP AND JEREMY IRONS AND ALSO TARZAN LORD OF GREYSTOKE

[@etthelost]

Awesome reaction to a great film. Thank you for watching this and choosing the directors cut. Hope to one day see it in theaters at a revival or something. Each side gets its due imo. The type of film you don't see too much anymore. Bravo 👏