Tai Chi vs Boxing

[@Dr.Westside]

Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth . - Mike Tyson

[@anastvezy1485]

@@rafahlts3259 kala ta les

[@Norell88]

Always someone who is giving this exact comment...

[@richardjeffery517]

Apart from Lennox ,he sticks to his plan as Mike Tyson found out .That fight broke my heart as a Tyson Fan

[@hannukoistinen5329]

Right:):)!!! Especially from Mike Tyson. I guess Mr. Tai-Chi master would forget his choreography in an instant!!

[@cd4playa1245]

Western boxing is an amazing martial art. Bruce Lee spoke very highly of it and incorporated a lot of it into Jeet Kune Do.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

But how do I adjust the opponent’s playback speed when I try this in a real fight?

[@hokubluesky4989]

Ahahah 😂👍🏻

[@raymondhuber6306]

You pay them

[@blakebarber5750]

No bad arts just bad practitioners...comments trashing a martial art because you may not understand how to apply it is a sign of the ignorance of the commentator...tai chi is probably not the most practical unarmed self defense for modern times as it was created as an answer for fighting styles of its day in history but that certainly doesn’t mean that it doesn’t hold concepts and maybe even specific techniques that can be useful today...I believe thereby is a Shaolin monk whipping ass in the MMA world....tell him his art is useless

[@unbengable2001]

Don’t believe in this bullshido

[@pongpong123able4]

😂😂😂

[@phillee3020]

If your style is actually effective, spar a boxer for a couple rounds. I need real proof.

[@ConcernedResident_GiantStack]

Yep....and in a sparring match you're not supposed to go all out. So it would make for a good analysis.

[@gaming826]

He's scared and he will refuse

[@hunterjacob5606]

This guy is a known fake but a true master of any martial art would be interesting to see against a boxer

[@noahbrooks7713]

Gomp Fungly I feel you but we all know if he does it won’t be real lol 😂

[@MetalizedButt]

It would be a cold blooded murder

[@morelhunter3966]

It’s easy when your opponent throws a slow punch and then stays in that position long enough for you to move and slap them.

[@kyle7258]

@Rune Age Mage and that’s what everyone in the comments don’t understand

[@stevenlindsey2056]

@Rune Age Mage It doesn't matter how fast you use poor technique.

[@c9dp232]

Ya stupid asf this shit won’t ever work against a boxer and your not blocking a power punch with ur hands place like that and you don’t lean forward on ur punches

[@GrowingDownUnder]

imagine if a boxer throws a right punch and then a left body shot, now the tai chi is effective since you slip and then parry his arm for the body shot. Just don't slap the ribs

[@Offpuddingok]

If this was a real fight the tai chi guy wont even see the punch coming. Nobody just stands there in a fight. You dont know what the opponent will do. Even a train fighter have really hard time dodging punches coming.

[@peterpaulpoloan5414]

I bet the boxer wanted to laugh so HARD! hahahaha

[@dorkyanimations5]

Lmao

[@mindax8823]

he must be like : emmm should i go slower?

[@irokosalei5133]

I think he knows how to listen, unlike kids on the internet who don't do anything worthy of their lives lol

[@mindax8823]

@@irokosalei5133 I see u must support the bullshito style of martial arts that wont ever work against any boxer

[@irokosalei5133]

@@mindax8823 Practise your grammar first, that'll make your internet boxing look better kid 😂

[@beefchief2320]

The master of bullshido.

[@DrFaustusZ]

Alex Lunders savage

[@DrFaustusZ]

EneSacarification I think that whatever Mr Mace is doing can’t be used in combat. It doesn’t matter what kind of master he is, that’s not real hand to hand techniques and therefore is performing gibberish.

[@DrFaustusZ]

EneSacarification it’s easy to use these techniques during slow-motion but in a real fight, the “Tai chi-masters” don’t stand a chance.

[@robinpopps189]

@@DrFaustusZ in my opinion tai chi is more effective in meditation

[@DrFaustusZ]

Robin Popps Meditation? Who are you, kung fo panda?

[@justinchiles9393]

This the funniest shit I’ve ever seen 😂😂. This man first attack is back hand slap to the ribs lol

[@rusibely.martinezandrade5717]

@ lol

[@lovernotfighter]

Yeah Like Ouch did a bee just sting me?

[@vivianbutler5851]

@ Right.....name me one fighter in the history of boxing that leaves his ribs exposed after a jab....what a joke

[@智障-k1s]

Justin Chiles just change it to a punch or something it ain’t need to be a slap. If you got a knife use that lol.

[@atanki5682]

He could elbow or knee the rib. That would cause serious damage

[@AdventureSMBW]

“Its an ‘ancient’ way.” 😂 Tai Chi is the most effective marrial art ever... for pushing people away so you have room to run. Seriously, its actually good at that lol

[@DavidStewart-zy9zw]

Tai chi is basically just shadow wrestling

[@DivineAdversity777]

You people are fucking hilarious lol You basically look for a certain style you dont agree with, flaunt your minimal knowledge on combat IN GENERAL, then bask in the attention lol No set style is the best. Period. Start combining shit and you’ll actually come up with something tailored FOR you. I bet half of you can’t fight half as nicely as you talk. I aint a tai chi fighter by any means. My philosophy could not be farther away. But I’ll take the best of anything and everything. And knock the fuck out of those who thing negativity & taunting like a child makes them strong 🤣

[@johnmeat]

its a shame Jake doesn't know that kind of tai chi

[@DecostaEdwards-Classof]

Guys who know kung also know tai chi that’s where the defense come from

[@daemonlordmagnusthered6213]

@@DivineAdversity777 While I agree, this video is just as bad in the opposite direction. How does Tai Chi stack up against Boxing? Tai Chi vs Boxing Tai Chi is the ultimate martial art. This sounds like someone out to prove something not training and it immediately gives false impressions. Also, while it is commonly accepted that “no right move” truly exists (I.e you have to move as you would in that situation, being natural is key and there is always options) some moves are better, easier or more efficient then others. A lot of movements in Tai Chi would (for a majority of people) be stripped away in favour of more direct and forceful moves or styles. It’s also key to note that many such “ancient styles” have replaced an overwhelming amount of sparring with rote learning and essentially shadow boxing. Those styles were effective mostly because the user was honed and improved through copious amounts of sparring.

[@moon_card]

No one: Me: here to learn how to waterbend

[@trisinstanley8835]

@moon_ boi I feel this heavily

[@obsidiannutsack551]

Thats rough buddy

[@פדואה2]

Y E S

[@bramhocks4704]

You also watshed 107 facts about avatar the last airbender

[@shoe2005]

Of sad tai chi waterbend oof

[@boserbube7922]

I´m 50 years old, so potentially no match for young fighters. Still doing Boxing and Kickboxing, had some 50 fights in the 90s and some 1000s sparring rounds with or against fighters from any kind of style. Even with beginners i never saw a boxer throwing one straight left, leaving enough time and space to use a technique like shown in the video. It is obvious that any! fighter would adopt a superior system - but nobody in MMA-professional-fighting is using it, for the simple that it doesn´t work. It´s pretty hard to fight skilled Boxers even when you are a good (low)kicker, their punching-frequency and footwork is impressive and has proven it worth. I´ve never found a single video on YT showing a real fight in which this slapping and pushing works fine - so it will be hard to convince me.

[@michaelmilligan782]

I think Tai Chi is really supposed to look more like boxing... like this guy (fast forward over the BS at the beginning). You can check out other videos of his students training, and it just looks like a boxing gym-- to me, the "tai chi" aspect is just the focus of training, staying loose to be quick, and then, adding in training what to do when the gloves are touching, tricks to move the opponents hands away, or control the hands and set up the knock out. But nobody in America practices it that way... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnu0pGp_ntd-aNE

[@zorbataichi65brown19]

Dead right my friend, this guy is full of it. they saw him coming and showed him wrong shit

[@traditionalirishmusic9550]

Quite correct.

[@PhilBJones]

UFC is fake and staged.

[@guitarpunk77]

Phil B. Jones so what about other mma promotions? Bellator, one? Or ufc when it first began? Those all fake too? Or is it more likely that “punch me really slow while i move out of the way and bitch slap your belly” doesn’t actually work?

[@mightConsiderThis]

ths looks like it would work perfectly against someone who throws a slow jab and then pauses with their arm extended.

[@hplovehandle]

+mightConsiderThis Now we know.

[@ahmedfouad9870]

+mightConsiderThis HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[@gamesbraun7069]

I burst out laughing when I saw this

[@cavalier196675]

Yes I always love how Kung Fu demonstrations always seem to do that. Ok now throw a punch, no not the left the right, no not to fast, now hold it there while I block and strike.

[@hplovehandle]

***** The tai chi guy would get his teeth kicked in if that's how he fought on the streets. Fights are never that 'clean' or co-ordinated.

[@davidhick4303]

I can’t believe he just gave away the secret to the dreaded death rib-slap!

[@shanehart1520]

The fact that he thought he was fast enough that we needed a slow mo 😂

[@benjaminbelmonte7192]

😂😂

[@Hell3n1st]

"Im fast AF boi"

[@axelanderthegreat]

You just ruined this whole video 😂😂😂

[@blacksamurai6400]

On god😂🤳

[@AgentK83]

It was probably to show you more exact form

[@jasontodd4801]

Thanks for the great info! I can now deliver a WICKED backhand slap to his ribs before I get choked out!

[@rusibely.martinezandrade5717]

LMAO

[@Ben-hi3df]

Thank you this guy a joke

[@jasontodd4801]

I just don't understand how people can take him seriously but I personally know people who do 😑

[@axelruiz9235]

Bro this shit has me DEAD ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@creepingjesus9740]

Jokes

[@ayranpride]

i have been into a lot of streetfights as a teenager,/adolescent, and did a lot of combat sports, boxing, wrestling, etc. the only thing i have experienced for SURE, never underestimate an opponent, and extreme aggression and determination in the first 10 to 30 seconds always has won the fight, even without combat sports experience. Nowadays i try to avoid any fight, because in the end even the winner will loose.

[@xyrius]

Very wise words. I came to the same conclusion(from a similar background).

[@williamandrews8320]

A true master (not necessarily even a martial artist) is a person who would not start or even need to fight. Therefore no one wins or loses! I came across a guy who started having a go at me one time, just because he wanted to. He could have taken me out with perhaps 1 or 2 punches. I would have been flat on my back. But, I managed to talk him down out of it. It took me 2 hours to do it and I was scared stupid, but it worked.

[@9o1ybius]

damn two hours to get someone to not punch you...

[@OTIS8883]

@@williamandrews8320 a true martial art master would not start a fight, but if he has to, he could take all ppl down, that's a master.

[@pablozamora5430]

@@OTIS8883 exactly, martial arts are the art of peace, you try to avoid the fights, but if the agressors are stubborn and still looking for it you put them in order by teaching them a lesson - beating them up of course.

[@chnnlsrfr3873]

For all those that laugh at these beginner explanations, it might be interesting to know that Tai chi was originally only taught to those who had mastered all the other levels of kung fu. It wasn't taught to the public. It was the most advanced form of kung Fu. That slap to the solar plexus is nasty enough, but if he misses it can break a rib. And the opponent has to setup all over again. Also, beginners take much more shallow steps. Only the most advanced take deep steps and elongated forms. And btw, he did mention fast twitch muscle use, which needs to specifically developed intentionally. Most people will not get there. Especially if a little older. But even those only interested in the health aspect of tai chi will develop muscle memory and if put into a situation ... That will kick in and they will gate much better. You may, or may not recall that lateral movement in Olympic boxing was brought to the ring by the American boxing team in the 1980s , and they dominated.

[@sirgoosehonk2716]

Great explanation!

[@ErraticFaith]

Partially incorrect, however I appreciate you not insulting our culture like everyone else. This 'teacher' isn't very good. However to his defense, he wasn't taught properly. Westerns have a great deal of difficulty understanding this art. This is why it, 'doesn't work'. Because they aren't really being shown what it is.

[@workmailcom2442]

@@ErraticFaith isnt there a Chinese mma fighter going around kicking tai chi “masters” ass’s like most of them are even lasting a minute tai chi is cool and all but it doesn’t really work in modern combat sports theres a reason the military dosent use it karate works maybe even kung fu to an extent but not tai chi

[@perrypelican9476]

@@workmailcom2442 those tai chi masters are not the real thing. They are people who have dojos who never had a real fight in their lives. The kind of tai chi effective for fighting is called tai chi chuan. It is an internal martial art that takes a lot of serious training to be useful in a fight. It is usually nit used on its own but to enhance. It is foolish to judge a martial art based n youtube videos only. If you really want to know you have to do so some research. You do know that most online content is not accurate at best. Just because something is online does not make it useful or true. Any idiot can post online stuff.

[@ChokeArtist411]

bullshit

[@JohnGodwin]

Felt sorry for the boxer. Had to pretend he wouldn't be able to utterly smash this guy. Must've been tough on his ego. Fair play to him.

[@JohnGodwin]

***** Really? You think? Great analysis, John, I hadn't ever considered that.

[@JohnGodwin]

***** It's 'you're'. You left out an apostrophe. It's important to make sure you're using correct grammar if you're going to make incredibly simplistic statements and then call people dumbasses when they sarcastically mock you for it.

[@JohnGodwin]

***** Don't try and backtrack, dumbo.

[@JohnGodwin]

+John Finkel Good lord, you're really insecure, aren't you? I get it, brother, you couldn't read that my very sarcastic response to you was, in fact, very sarcastic, but just let it go. Read it several times, you'll see that it is, in fact, dripping in sarcasm. 'Sarcasm' is your word for the day.

[@JohnGodwin]

+John Finkel Their relationship has no bearing on anything, you're very uptight.

[@panic3982]

The "Are you ok" part killed me

[@three1seven419]

I was like bitch please

[@You_know21]

@@three1seven419 hahahaha😂

[@josephnebeker7976]

Followed up with, "you can take it"!

[@SM-xb8qw]

I love Tai Chi. I use to be really shy around people at the club and other social functions until I started learning Tai Chi. It has given me the confidence I needed and completely changed my life. Now, I usually find myself being the first one on the dance floor with my fancy Tai Chi flow and dance moves. One time, a fight broke out at a club but I just kept calm and continued dancing using my Tai Chi dance moves.

[@threethrushes]

Sticky Rice Were your moves as fast as lightning?

[@SM-xb8qw]

Gerhard Symons fast yet slow at the same time. hate to admit this but i got laid that night for the first time in 40 years, thanks to Tai Chi

[@threethrushes]

Sticky Rice Great! If true, it's a fantastic story. Keep up with the slick moves!

[@NuevoVR]

i love you man no homo

[@Viper-sn5cx]

Lmao!!! Love it

[@thunderthighs662]

"Part the horse's mane" Umm no actually the ancient chiense grandmasters referred to that move as the "belly bitchslap", god damn amateur smh

[@priusblackrose2984]

Boxers has a training for pain tolerance open hand slap will never hurt them

[@MateoArriza]

Even the hardest skin can fell that pain

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

Prius Black Rose depends how you slap

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

Boxers aren’t gods. Some boxers can’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

ŇøHă Ģ. I don’t think you get what I’m saying. It’s not the art, it’s how you apply the techniques to a fight. Also no. Just a question do you practice or learn about martial arts?

[@sinisaass1993]

Slap to the chest will do NOTHING against boxer

[@TheWeasleMMA]

I'm not one to bash another style because anyone with exceptional skill and understanding can make any style work but on this video. A jab in boxing is used to distract or set up another blow or movement. A professional boxers jab like Ali's would not be able to slip like this without being caught by another left hook or straight right of uppercut. Normally slipping a jab could be dangerous as the boxer could be setting you up for a hard blow.

[@themusicman5636]

This here is a beautiful understanding of boxing

[@workmailcom2442]

I mean its even used for man than that sometimes its just used as a “stay were you are if you don’t wanna get laid tf out”type move

[@justinhavens9835]

You can slip the jab slip to the outside and bring your feet with you. You could get headkiked slipping any punches though if your hands are down

[@Starring001]

@@justinhavens9835 move 45 degrees. 😉

[@justinhavens9835]

@@Starring001 true, especially if you are looking to close the distance.

[@santoandkim]

😂😂😂😂 this is why people get killed!!

[@whitehairvillain36]

HAHAHA

[@toxix_behavior1925]

santoandkim OOOF

[@pomui8121]

Yes. This is illusion

[@stealth7476]

Not practice to use.

[@kenji2007ramalho]

The worst video ever🤣

[@thisunsudaraka9027]

That slap on the ribs must be absolutely devastating.

[@christophermullinix2155]

"Are you okay?" 😆😆 "Yeah bro, I'm fine. Spar me for real."

[@kmfiz]

Christopher Mullinix 😂

[@samnangsokhom1474]

Lol

[@zaydribbles2898]

This guy makes the martial art community looks bad

[@wolfbuchanan2013]

Wrong, Jake Mace is focusing on very important aspects of all martial arts. Focus, endurance, self control, perseverance , patience, and following closely the ways of Shaolin, which include being Vegan or vegetarian. Once you can achieve his patience ,endurance, focus, self control, and undertake true Shaolin training, then, and only then would I concern myself about your opinions of this man or any Martial Artist. Another very important fact, Jake Mace doesn't allow his comments to come from an over swelled ego or a sense of self importance .If closed minds came with shut mouths, what a wonderful world this would be.

[@eXpas04]

Why

[@emooki886]

@@wolfbuchanan2013 😂

[@kobeherremans5206]

wolf i agree with the part of beiing peacefull. But in shaolin they would use a working technique. You can try break my ribs with a slap with the back of your hand but IT aint gonna work. This Guy is teached by a master that claims to know every animal form of kung fu etc. He believes he is doiing stuff right. He is a good person but he doesnt know wat he is doiing a lot of the time. Sorry for my broken english and have a great day🙏

[@alanchadwick2646]

Wolf Buchanan then the martial artist gets knocked out by the boxer anyway . It’s laughable . If they were any good they’d take up boxing for the money and all be millionaires . They don’t because it does t work

[@divinetruth9254]

1:10 Great way to start to get knocked out😂😂😂

[@Exaltedmind2019]

Divine Truth 😂😂😂😂😂😂 right hook

[@uberlephrad8218]

Lmao just cross

[@MikeB32280]

That was actually the only part he got right, a slip is forward and ideally to the outside of a straight. You want your eyes glued to your opponents shoulders, you'll see a cross coming a mile away from there,

[@angelarballo4478]

Someone's never taken a boxing class. A slip is a rudimentary and essential part of any boxers arsenal, and it helps with working angles around your opponent.

[@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236]

That “slip in” thing is a good way to catch a WICKED right

[@peterlarsson7064]

Never see a boxer standing still for 4 sec after the jab. Western boxing is lot of fast hard punch and excelent footwork

[@florese4804]

How to ? ?

[@klimwldi5490]

@ It doesn't work on untrained fighters either :)

[@whitecat1796]

You would stand no chance. Tai chi it's good for your health and wellbeing, not for fighting. Even though you can use some techniques in a fight but it will not help you against boxer or MMA fighter. You need muscle and fighting skills. Breathe in breathe out will give you black eye and bleeding nose.

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

CuteTiger That’s not true, it depends how you apply it. If you apply certain tai chi at a fast paced to a real person, it’s real combat moves.

[@gunnerfresn2580]

@@GhostRider-hy9zt yeah right. BJJ is the only real thing that helps you. Also mui tai is a good one

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

The Gunner It’s true. That’s coming from a KZbind called Ramsey Dewey. He was a professional boxer, sun da, and MMA. Now he teaches cage fighters and commentates on matches. So yes it is right. Also when he was doing an introductory, he did tai chi, because and then did it full speed. Then he did it to his helper and took her down.

[@justinjones8620]

TaiChi would dominate a lot of pro boxers today. But only the people who practice TaiChi for its main purpose can do this. Someone who practices taichi with the intent to fight with it, might not be the best taichi fighter. But someone who practices TaiChi for flow, with the primary task at hand is flow and well-being, and view fighting as something that's not primary could dominate. These people practice mainly for the flow, but also learn how to use taichi in different scenarios. And muscle isnt necessarily needed to engage in a pro boxer, if you're a master at taichi. If you aren't a master at it, and you still dont grasp the whole concept and how to apply it to fights, then you might need muscle. TaiChi is powerful my friend, much more powerful that what you think😌

[@hwillis8]

Most real tai chi guys will say that tai chi is about health and wellness, not necessarily fighting. That doesn’t mean that it can’t be used for fighting. You can’t say that tai chi would never work because there are some legit tai chi guys that fight in sanda matches often and use striking and grappling effectively. Pull the sparrow by the tail and part the horses mane are basic tai chi movements and are basically a pull down and throw. Cutetiger there are plenty of guys who have dabbled in tai chi that fight in MMA, and some traditionalists that can use their art to full effect. Not discounting bjj, boxing, wrestling, and Muay Thai of course, but taiji is good for us older guys who want an interesting workout that won’t hurt us. You young guns can have all that other stuff.

[@cesarsierra60]

Tai chi is so effective that everyone uses it on the ufc 😂

[@straightlead8]

Too deadly for the Octagon

[@rickberny1424]

@Alex Amaya you had me in the fist two, not gonna lie, i was like,oh ffs not one of these idiots

[@ricardovergara6430]

@@straightlead8 I hope you’re joking.

[@perrypelican9476]

Everyone is an expert. There is a really effective fighting taiji called taiji chuan. But it takes a long time of intense training to master it. You don't just take a few classes and become deadly. I guess it's the same for any martial art. You have to train for years before serious pro fighting. I am sure that all the comments here come from kids who never had a real fight in their life and get their knowledge from KZbin. It's ridiculous. Hey kids, instead of this, go learn and train hard and get in shape. You won't have time for stupid arguments about things you know nothing about on KZbin.

[@trollge8598]

@@DrOrr 🤣

[@cheeseball3173]

At 4:06 I didn't realize he actually hit the boxer cause he didn't even flinch. And after he even asks if he's okay lmaooo I'm dying

[@tuluppampam]

Usually when people train in martial arts they tend to not hit hard, mostly because you aim to vital spots and whatnot so it would have a big effect (the human body is designed pretty badly) But sometimes they train hitting pretty hard so defence is quite useful (I trained in karate for quite a while and we didn't really hit, except when it was time to actually test the things out and that was a great way to learn defensive moves)

[@cheeseball3173]

@@tuluppampam Well yeah but mans is a boxer. Give the people a good, fast hit that won't harm the guy, but will still show what it's all about. It is clear to me that you've never done MMA or BJJ or Muay Thai lmao because yall Taekwondo and Karate kids have a really different mentality lol.

[@chumpchannel6008]

These moves might work ok in a slap fight.

[@kamespinosarojas9225]

A really slow slap fight. XD

[@brandonin4218]

I like how many people learn kung fu tai chi and all that but in a real fight they just punch and kick.

[@RealKungFu]

Brandon chung That's what Kung Fu is!!! :)

[@brandonin4218]

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace I know but how do you do the thing where you can catch the punch and push it away. must have reflexes of a tiger to do that.

[@TheSushiandme]

+Brandon chung I used Wrestling, Judo, and Brazilian Jiu Jutsu in high school and in the Marines. I'm 5'4'' so striking isn't my strongest suit for combat/fighting. Grappling is much better for shorter people vs stronger/taller people. Most people have muscle, but lack skill/experience.

[@LMFAS9528]

+Brandon chung Only young inexperienced students do that bud,and most that even contemplate that are young students ,Any teacher worth his weight wouldn't be caught dead on you tube

[@TheJimmybeatz]

+Brandon chung Tai Chi is not meant for fighting

[@mrturtle6879]

Why am I watching this?

[@Viper-sn5cx]

MR TURTLE the same two reasons everybody else is watching. Bc we love Jake and want to learn cool ass kung fu, or bc his bullshido is just hilarious to watch lmao

[@Viper-sn5cx]

@@MisterKzzt I know right? The guy entertains you cant deny that

[@calebduarte9615]

Same nigga

[@LAVATORR]

Because to a turtle Tai Chi moves at normal speed.

[@nikolayordanov3115]

entertainment

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

Hey, thanks for adding to the conversation, and being willing to share your passion with the community! It's scary to put yourself out there in front of all the haters.

[@belikewater2413]

Not all are haters, just realistic people with actual fighting experience that know this would simply not workout in reality!

[@johnmeat]

@JohnBlue Jake Mace is known to be someone with "no lineage" and sells belt promotions through the mail. If that is adding to a conversation than i have some chi gung ranks to sell you

[@JimGiant]

Cool sidestep. I'm sure you'd have pulled it off equally well if it wasn't slow motion. Must be a true master to understand there is no need to keep your guard up with the other hand, boxers never throw combos and that flaccid wrist slap would break anyone's ribs and incapacitate them. It's a complete mystery why we never see Tia chi masters winning MMA tournaments. Be careful trying this on the street boys and girls, don't want to accidental kill someone by releasing too much chi!

[@fightington]

+Jim Giant best comment so far

[@JimGiant]

+fightington Thanks bro. You've got some great videos on your liked list.

[@fightington]

+Jim Giant same brah, looks like the training is going nicely :). I've been watching heaps about wim hof lately, check out the vice doco, sick.

[@JimGiant]

fightington Wim hof is very impressive, I'm looking to learn the opposite skill though plan on learning armoured combat and the heat gets pretty unbearable after a while.

[@fightington]

+Jim Giant sick. I know hof ran a half marathon in the desert...

[@JeetKuneDoBelgrade]

I wouldnt advise anyone to use these strategies / techniques against a boxer.

[@internetvide0]

JKD/Wing Chun Kung Fu I am a boxer this guy not even standing correctly or shooting punches correctly. No boxer would ever come in that close, stand shoulder to shoulder, or leave body open like that. This video is more Tai Chi vs street fighter.

[@JeetKuneDoBelgrade]

Tony Roberts I guess so. And this is dangerous even against an untrained fighter.

[@VioletGiraffe]

JKD/Wing Chun Kung Fu, why?

[@JeetKuneDoBelgrade]

Because good boxers have among the best judgment of distance,speed and power in their hands. They retract their hands as fast as they fire their shots. These techniques are ineffective against a boxer. I have sparred with good boxers and belive me,i know.

[@JeetKuneDoBelgrade]

Pegour Black Belt in Tai Chi? No comment.

[@Otter-Destruction]

Tai Chi is like that one guy whose the pacifist but when shit goes down he's the craziest one.

[@RealKungFu]

Kriston Mei Hahaha! Yes! :)

[@pokemasterdark707]

I'm going to say this once, I'm going to say this twice, Tai-chi is not self defense it's just a healthy activity

[@sweett3253]

If tai chi is a martial art than so is yoga😂

[@sol5879]

I actually searched for Martial Art, but damn i never saw such a good dance tutorial.

[@astralseeker]

I've been practicing shotokan karate in the 80's, Aikido in 80's, then thai and kick boxing, in qi gong since the 90's. I have much respect for tai chi, but a person who practices tai chi and fight with a boxer, will just get destroyed. Tai chi is a form of qi gong. tai chi has some martial roots in it, but in no way gives any capacity to any person to fight boxers. You live in an illusion if you believe the contrary. tai chi could be a complementary practice for a fighter who already is in thai boxing, or boxing, or full contact martial art. tai chi would give you better balance and better understanding of movements, but if you practice tai chi , even for 10 years, and you think you can fight a boxer with it, you are totally in an illusive world. same applies with most wu shu technic and aikido. Practicing tai chi does not prepare your body to get hit, does not teach you how to strike punches, knees elbow and kicks ... through the angle of real fight and self defense, tai chi is just a system of pointless fancy movements for people who live in a dream ... and you could almost say the same thing with most of aikido and kung fu movements, which does not teach you how to kick and punch, and only require that you grabb opponent arms at very precise moments and spots to be effective, which hapen in fancy training but never in real street combat situation or on a ring. Of course it looks good on videos or in movies; indeed practice tai chi for meditation, breathing, get better health, get bette immune system, get in harmony with the universe and follow the law of tao, but avoid it if you think you can fight just with it cause you will get wrecked...consequently this video is total utter bullshit .. ...namaste

[@jeffersonbuckles8905]

+astralseeker These people are promoting techniques and martial arts used to originally teach KIDS DISCIPLINE as actual self defense. And that is extremely dangerous. Its disgusting that they do what they do just to support their own ego.

[@shungamunga]

+astralseeker Forget what people do Taijiquan for, forget about goofballs like Jake the Fake, forget about old people dancing on a beach. Taijiquan is a fighting art. Health benefits are a plus. Qi gong to Taijiquan is like push ups and crunches to a boxer. Would you watch a boxer doing push ups and say that's not going to work in a fight? You don't practice Taijiquan for meditation. You meditate, and to be accurate you don't meditate, you simply sit, or stand but that's another post, to improve your skills by quieting the mind. Watch the films of Ali in his prime. His speed comes from his stillness. A simple concept difficult to practice. As far as accuracy and precise timing for effectiveness, well you just described boxing, so I get the impression you don't really know what you're talking about here, though I agree with you 100% about this vid being utter bullshit. It is.

[@shanewaldron2971]

I love seeing comments like yours. Please, I understand tai chi is used for health but don't think what this guy is showing is martial tai chi. Real tai chi is for warfare and lethal compared to basic western boxer. They develop everything for fighting, again nothing like this video. If you haven't trained with a legit master (preferably Chen style) you won't have any idea what I'm talking about and think it's just yoga and meditation. But for those who know, they know it well. Google Chen Taiji Masters and watch some real videos before giving tai chi a bad name from this.

[@sugarnads]

Lol. Tai chi is a particularly vicious form of kung fu slowed riiiiiight down. I mean sloweddddd down. Its great muscle memory training. Its great for muscle control. And its a blooody good work out you dont realise youve gotten until you stop. I used to do taekwondo ( not the bs sport crap they teach now) and tai chi. The couple of street fights i got into i generally ended up using the ta chi not the tkd. Everyone has to find their own way. Everyones tao is different.

[@jamesandthangs1234]

Shunga Munga Ali's speed came fron repetition and genetics

[@disengagedsage737]

It's stagnant drills like this that makes a lot of traditional martial arts useless in a real fight. It's all an illusion. If you really want to test a technique, you need to make sure the guy punching you is really trying to punch you😀 It's not about the system you're training in per se, rather it's about your methodology of training.

[@jakobebryant8189]

thats why people spar, people who learn kung fu for self defense tend to spar.

[@LordDirus007]

What becomes clear when so called "Kung Fu" master fight for real. It just ends up into dirty boxing and shitty wrestling.

[@AgentK83]

Many of these styles used to actually be effective, and now are entirely useless because everyone who still teaches them teaches like this

[@MrDeano-eu9rg]

@@AgentK83 tai chi has never been useful.

[@AgentK83]

@@MrDeano-eu9rg I wasn’t talking about tai chi However, I was looking at it and some of the movements are kind of ground work for actual martial arts movements, footwork and balance and stuff I don’t think you could use tai chi alone in a fight, but using it just to meditate if you actually do martial arts may be cool and have a point

[@ace_apologetics]

3:34 bless you! You need a tissue there?

[@mawuigithagoat]

BAHAHAHA

[@DasSuper]

Jake, it's always the 'deny the reality' and the 'fleece the idiot' movements in your videos. I'm caught in a quandary of both admiring your impeccable integrity yet lamenting the fact you haven't unleashed your awesome power on the UFC.

[@buyerofsorts]

hee hee...

[@EdgarNovoa]

Sorry...but this is out of reality, as a boxer the first thing we learn is to hit and immediately get our guard ready to cover our sides (ribs) face, stomach etc, the hit is like a whip any boxer knows you must never keep your arm extended, so this defense against a jab will never work against a real boxer.

[@BALJIT147]

Edgar Novoa Also I believe the vast majority of the people on the planet, regardless of training would be able to land a jab before he could side step it.

[@davidjd123]

I say put some gloves on the guy that "knows" Thai chi up against someone with at least 5 amateur fights and see what happens 😂

[@brave7033]

Do it in real speed! Slow motion boxing doesn't exist. Jab cross left hook. Jab cross low kick. That is what boxing is about. Combos. In full speed it's devastating.

[@brave7033]

Any fighter letting his guard down could get messed-up ; that's we get taught to keep our guard up

[@churrocharcharm]

Br ave Sometimes they teach you/You figure out that you can use fighters attacks somewhat against them. Like, almost like when they attack its kinda letting their own guard down. So when they attack dodge and attack them. If that makes sense.

[@brave7033]

Charlie The Cartoonist. I agree, but any attack can get countered. I still think that this kind of art is not efficient when it comes to combat. I practiced kung-fu, and when we practiced combat it is really similar to boxing : punches, kicks, etc... Bruce Lee understood it quite clear that 's why he called it Chinese boxing

[@churrocharcharm]

Br ave To be honest I have a freestyle/mix of some styles. Boxing/kick boxing is one of them. Normal karate also, and some kung fu. Theres a couple more but I honestly forgot the names lol

[@brave7033]

Charlie The Cartoonist lool! I like practicing differents styles too. I just take what 's useful for me, kinda like a tool box

[@richardgoldsmith226]

Tai chi is a martial discipline and when practiced correctly can create exceptional energy (chi ) that is centred around the lower belly. The movement builds strength, speed and heightens ones ability to read the telegraphing of an enemy’s attacks. You learn how to create space and readiness when being harassed. But the readiness has to be kept very inconspicuous until the very last moment! Be careful not to antagonise with a flash stance, as it can make a bad situation worse! Be humble and loose, but crack like a whip when needs be. Pacifying is the best form of Defence. Tai chi is taught by many people but its true essence is not. Never compare one discipline against another, but compare the disciplined against the none!

[@NairoFreestyler]

Sorry but tai chi is not effective...why you not show normal sparring vs boxer?

[@RealKungFu]

If I was doing normal sparring vs a Boxer I would be throwing kicks, sweeps, palms, elbows, knees, joint manipulation, throws, and takedowns. These are ALL found in Tai Chi but since Boxing is a sport it is limited to punches only! Boxers are amazing and if we sparred using Boxing rules then the Boxer may win! But, for general sparring or fighting, Tai Chi has many, many, many more weapons at it's disposal making it a more complete fighting system!!! :)

[@taichimaster9310]

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace A great Tai Chi martial arts idea...Why not have you and Eric just sitting there and THINK of a match. You know, like Jet Lei and Donny Yen in Hero. Would be EPIC, tons of viewers and fun to make.

[@yeshuaservant7]

Tai Chi Chuan can be VERY effective in fighting--boxers or anybody else. The problem is that it takes two or three times longer to get to high enough skill level to use it in a fight--than it does studying karate, boxing, etc. Some of the deadliest fighters have been Tai Chi Chuan masters.

[@diogocaetano7530]

Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Im not sure what to say but since the video features a tai chi fighter vs a boxer, sure i can see this technique as viable because boxers dont use elbows, on the other hand i dont know how Jake Mace would react using this technique against a fighter of a different style. In Jujutsu (Samurai martial art) and Ninjutsu (Ninja martial art) i would use the basic step/dodge but i would make sure that my opponent wouldn't be able to use his arm again (yes that means break it) using my elbow against his elbow while my left arm pushed his wrist, i dont know if i described it well, sorry about that xD. Waiting for a reply, Jake Mace.

[@RealKungFu]

Diogo Caetano Hey Diogo - Yes, I would use a different strategy and different moves against a Taekwondo or Ninjutsu fighter! I will have to do a video about it! Stay tuned!

[@mrexpresso3308]

When my Character attacks in a video game 3:35

[@sean-paul5080]

Remembers me of the 2 punch attack in Shenmue tbh

[@1millionprojectpt]

😂😂

[@brooklynmonk1]

I bet those short, backhand, slaps to the ribs, from a tai chi guy who never hist a bag and never fights would really sting. They would probably leave a red mark on your skin and after knocking out the tai chi master, you might want to put some Bactine on them.

[@davidquezada50]

Chinese boxer with real combat experience would never be the same as someone like this guy who never hit a person before

[@justinjones8620]

Someone who practices tai chi without the intent to harm, and has lived their life through taichi could ultimately humiliate a lot of boxers. Tai chi isnt used for offense, its used for the flow of yourself. And if you practice TaiChi for yourself for years and years, you could humiliate a boxer. Not by attacking him, but by using his own movements against him and defeating him that way. Taichi is for flow of oneself and to become more attuned with yourself. Someone who practices taichi only uses it to fight when ultimately necessary and they mostly use it for defense and not offense

[@drewlawrence5954]

@@justinjones8620 Ha! Haha!

[@dimitrivanderhel9261]

@@justinjones8620 your spiritual energy doesnt do shit when you get elbowed in the eye and you recieve mutiple punches on your jaw. Then your fairytale martial art is going to let you down.

[@kmfiz]

😂

[@itismeanttobe]

I think if you combine the calm tai chi with something more offensive and technically superior you'll be a very strong fighter

[@motsi7393]

This will get your ass kicked. Jab is quick. Not gonna have time do all fancy shit

[@andrewbrannen1891]

Stop underestimating it dumbass boxing can't fucking beat everything

[@RealKungFu]

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[@constra7969]

Jake I would like to say thank you. You have taught me and inspired me to learn as much as I can. You even inspired me to make videos so I can help others learn too. I've watched every one of your videos! And I like them because I always learn something new. You are amazing! I don't know how I could thank you enough.

[@RealKungFu]

+Trixter Phoenix Thanks Trixter! Good luck! :)

[@shungamunga]

+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Rydberg your ratio is about 8 -1 now, so what does that mean? What's with the Mace thing? And you should quit calling this TCMA. That's just pure bullshit. Does Pam know this is shit? Is she part of the deception? And you do advertise your fraudulent school in every post so own up. You've got a nice little scam going and some people find it offensive and morally deplorable. Change you name again and go fuck off somewhere and we'll stop the "hating".

[@digtongo]

this bullshit and not traditional in any way

[@shungamunga]

Trixter Phoenix Tell us this is a joke.

[@petertaylor2148]

This work perfect, when in slow motion... But impossible in real life

[@juaquintrumpet3281]

Its not impossible in real like. If you watch boxing, boxers literally do this all the time. Slipping punches and countering

[@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236]

Juaquin Trumpet You’re thinking of bobbing and weaving. The point of B&W is to get out of the way of the strikes without lining yourself up for another which is why boxers often go down, not laterally. If the opponent knows you’re gonna “slip” inside, they can bait you with a flinch then spin your jaw around the back of your head.

[@juaquintrumpet3281]

@@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236 i dont know about a flinch, but boxes call it a faint if thats what you mean. i didnt mean slip inside. i just meant slipping punches. you can slip laterally or utilize angles to get to the side of your opponent and then counter off their punches thrown, and yes thats why my coach always says to fake to one side then go the other way. Ive gotten caught many times cause I became predictable going the same way all the time

[@GarGlingT]

No it is not slow, this is crap. Taiji can speed up if you strong enough.

[@davidwongcy932]

Tai chi is really useless

[@sudoku1099]

Taichi is often called shadow boxing, since its boxing aspects are hidden so you don't expect a taichi martial artist to do boxing ...

[@Cvmanuel227]

this dude is bogus

[@SuperHoraceWimp]

+Uzzi-EL so true!

[@IThinkSoBrain]

I think he means well. It's a difficult martial art and the people who really understand the sweet stuff don't like to share. And yet, this stuff here isn't tai chi. It's too stiff. None of the six harmonies must-haves are present. It may be effective. It's hard to tell from the video and demonstration stuff. But it's not tai chi. Then again, most people in the US don't know any better and the Chens are notoriously free about handing out duan ranks of you're willing to pay. It's what keeps their village fed, so I can't really blame them.

[@punchingplayerpenguin3291]

RELEASE THE BOGUS

[@Dessly5]

Uzzi-EL there is a reason why tai chi is only useful if you want to get in good shape, it can be a good workout but will not be useful in an actual fight, it's just not that practical, if he wanted to prove his point he would do an actual sparring match to test it's effectiveness, this is almost like watching an aikedo demonstration, sure it might look useful but in an actual situation where you need to defend yourself against a boxer or mauy Thai fighter your kind of fucked, don't practice Tai chi with the intention of learning self defense, that's what mauy Thai or boxing is good for and it's a good workout as well.

[@sherlockholmes785]

😂😂😂 tai chi guys get beaten up everywhere

[@shoe2005]

Yep

[@kissPANCRASION]

@Spencer Phelps its very useless, any martial art can best a tai chi practicioner anyday. A street fighter that never been in a fight will be a good fight

[@PeterPan012]

I do bjj and wrestling and I really really want to beat up a tai chi fighter 😂

[@AsuraPhoenix]

Boxing, bullets does too.......i can keep going? 🤣 everything gets beat everywhere

[@kissPANCRASION]

@@PeterPan012 I'm about to start BJJ 👏

[@andrewb.9815]

Where is your video where this is in full play? Don't give me this arm-feeding stuff, lets see you in a real fight.

[@minerva-265]

If you're dodging a fist like this guy, you've been watching too many anime cartoons. A boxer, kickboxer or muay thai boxer will break you. Please make no mistake.

[@mlutra5676]

I came here to learn how to 'water bend’ as an avatar the last air bender character and even I’m confused/disappointed

[@nikolasc1594]

If you are a professional trainer you shouldn't be telling people they can sidestep a jab with enough time to return a hook. It's not even a matter of taste, people get hurt trying this nonsense in self defense. Not everyone understands what effective techniques are, and they look to figures like you for guidance, you should be accountable for the damage you do in poorly influencing those people.

[@emiliogarcia5343]

🤣😂 "are you ok?, ....c'mon you can take it"

[@singinginthedark2786]

dude...boxers are trained to deal with fast body and head movements, would love to see you try that in a real instance, you would be pounded by a boxer. I am a 25 year martial artist trained in Ving Tsun and Tai Chi, the only way to learn to fight, is to actually fight, all real martial arts train by pairing up people and sparring, not demonstrating, and for sure not by begging for 5$...wth!?!

[@WHAGGO4]

+iampan please help me with my ignorance. why spell "Wing Chun" as Ving Tsun"? is it a different style or a different region dialect? or just a romanization? your point is fucking spot on though

[@singinginthedark2786]

ving tsun is the proper way to spell it, wing chun is american remake

[@WHAGGO4]

there is no "v" sound in Chinese. also the "ch" sound is proper pronunciation. it literally took me 5 minutes to research that "Tsun" is a romanization dude. get your shit straight

[@bhqld628]

Ving Tsun is a style of Wing Chun, not a correction, as is Wing Tsun. Wing Chun is the English rendered spelling of the Chinese characters.

[@benjohnson679]

No boxer throws a hook and freezes for a few seconds for you too do that Pwachaa shit

[@omarhisham6500]

Abdu Fabbi: this made my day!!!

[@niklasfreericks5436]

Abdu Fabbi So true. I do boxing myself and was always taught to do quick punches so I don't give up my cover

[@joshberry777]

Actually, Tai Chi masters can freeze time at will. Many of them will grab a snack and tea while doing so.

[@progamer937]

Abdu Fabbi This guy teaches bullshit

[@thetruthishere4560]

i doubt this guy has ever been rocked in the face before , when he does his faajing , a real boxer would have already cracked him on the chin. there goes his years and years of catching flies with a chopstick and walking on air and all that bullshit.

[@JuanMonstro]

Hahahahaha that's how to get your ass kicked! I'd love to see him trying this on a real fight, against a real boxer.

[@drspookyoofieoof316]

Juan Moreira so you must be an American fighter who would only throw punches worse then a beginner at boxing

[@kuri1796]

Tai chi takes patience this is for beginners you have to practice building your endurance allowing you to use it fast. Most Tai chi moves can knock a boxer out with one hit. One hit can probably stop your opponents heart allowing them to die but that risky doing those moves so it takes time use my advice to help you

[@juuso1124]

@@kuri1796 No

[@almightypower4895]

@@kuri1796 that makes sense because if it's someone like Bruce Lee doing Tai chi movements for example; any modern day boxer would most likely be knocked out and not know what hit them

[@Guile1117]

@@almightypower4895 don't Think Bruce would have ever done tai chi

[@jetli6696]

Fighting Taiji requires a lot of practice and lots of practical, full contact with realistic speed and strength. Therefore, you need a very strong, fast and agile body to be able to use Taiji in a real fight. You also need a good eye and strong self-confidence to deal properly with an escalating situation. For these reasons, it is easier to learn Taiji for health only. And just aside, what this gentleman prefers here is no taiji and only harms people.

[@godzilladude1231]

I'd rather use an ordianry boxing slip than that complicated 45 slip Tai Chi. I try doing that. Its slower and seldomly works.

[@MobiusCoin]

Do that to Deontay Wilder 😂

[@AIenSmithee]

Deontay Wilder? Using a shotgun to a spider there buddy. Besides, why would he think he could do anything the heavyweight champion of the world. There’s like 3x in the world that could beat him why would you mention him?

[@NakMuayify]

Why do you make up bullshit about Chinese martial arts? Do you even speak Chinese? Tai Chi is NOT a fighting martial art. This video is dangerous. This is terrible advice. I live in Guangdong. Your Tai Chi is great. Show me this with the guy actually jabbing instead of posing. No one poses in a fight.

[@shungamunga]

+NakMuayify I agree with you about this shit vid, but not your claim about Tai Chi. If it isn't a fighting art what is it? Not what people today tend to practice for, but what is it?

[@NakMuayify]

+Shunga Munga Martial Arts, particularly in the East, are generally divided into two broad categories: External and Internal. A few good examples of external Martial Arts is Judo, Sanda Kung Fu, Muay Thai, Chinese Wrestling (Shuai Jiao) etc. The focus of external martial arts is usually geared more towards fighting, but not necessarily so. Competition Wushu (as its called in English) is focused on performance as opposed to actual fighting but it is still an external martial art. The ultimate example of internal martial arts its Tai Qi, in which one develops one's own personal abilities. There is of course, combat Tai Qi but its really not the main focus of Tai Chi. Qi Gong is another example. In the West we focus almost entirely on external martial arts. To generalize, internal martial arts are more focused on health of body and mind whereas external are more focused on affecting someone else's body. I'd love to answer any more questions you have regarding the subject.

[@shungamunga]

With all respect, I think you have this wrong. The differences between an external art and an internal art are quite simple, at least in theoretically, though not in practice. An external art is wholly dependent on physicality. This is primarily what Rydberg does in these shitty vids of his. Internal arts are a combination of physiology and psychology. Physicality is the low hanging fruit. It's easy to grab onto, sells easily and to the untrained eye looks the part. Internal arts are less outwardly dynamic, except when applied in actual situations. We've all heard about the old Tai Chi guy making people fly off his hands like magic. Well, there's no magic just a combination of structure, position, leverage exploiting his opponents intent. And all without relying on physical strength, but internal mechanics, chi, and mind. Meditation has huge health benefits. BUt in the arts it's used to calm the mind and lose the ego. Why? Because as in Daoist though, movement can only come from stillness, and stillness comes from sitting, or practicing standing postures. In essence one becomes a better fighter by doing nothing and becoming nothing. Everyone says the practice of Tai Chi has health benefits, but if asked how or why most would be stumped. Taijiquan is a fighting art, one of the three brothers, the others being Bagua and Xingyi. Their intent is fighting. Xingyi is the only true combat art of the three, as it was taught to military personal, and taught weapons before empty hand. Xingyi boxers dominated fighting competitions in southern China during the early 20th Century. Though as Robert Smith observed, when the internal aspects are removed it's just bad boxing. I practiced Hung Gar for many years. In the beginning it's taught as external, but as one progresses in skill and understanding the internal training replaces the external. Wing Chun is an internal art. Bak Mei is an internal art. Mantis is an internal art. Muay Boran, coming from a Buddhist place would have been internal as well. Muay Thai is sport fighting. Taijiquan is in purpose and intent a fighting art, but it's effectiveness is compromised with the practice of wuji. The Daoist realized health and longevity though the practice of Taijiquan but the practice was primarily martial not health. What Jake the Fake does here has no real health or martial benefit. It is essentially a waste of one's time.

[@NakMuayify]

Shunga Munga You absolutely nailed it on the head. Thank you for correcting my generalizations. All martial arts have internal and external aspects but most lean one way or another. One key objection though with regards to Martial Arts...specifically Taijiquan and Daoists. The old practice was primarily martial but due to iconoclasm and censorship most of the old battlefield Kung Fu has been lost or destroyed. What is left is the health and performance focused arts. The shift was most dramatic during the "barbarian" dynasties due to their taste for exciting performances as opposed to hearings poems and watching regular plays. Also governments made extensive efforts to keep the martial power in the hands of the military. The most modern example that I can think of is Shaolin Temple's relationship with Chinese governments and dynasties. And yes, this channel misses the point and is dangerous. Orientalist to the max...what can one expect from Arizona though? :P

[@Mgeoghan95]

+NakMuayify The Chen village in China used Tai ji to defend from invaders as well as keep everyone healthy. Sure it is not as aggressive as boxing but it was originally used for defense as well as internal reasons.

[@BomberTVx]

I tried these moves in a match and got beaten I want a refund

[@tuluppampam]

Pls don't try tai chi in a fight Use jiu-jitsu (if you really want to use martial arts) which should work a little better

[@RealKungFu]

What Country are you watching from??? Tell me Below!

[@j.manuelrios5901]

Costa Rica

[@grantbooysen6475]

South Africa. Great video, btw!

[@Androchles1881]

Denmark :)

[@Pseudonym25]

England

[@minijavi19]

Mexico

[@Will-sl1iv]

If the boxer is in a vegetative state then you tai chi masters will batter him

[@benjamingoldmanmoshiachben5388]

Lol!

[@belkacemgueliane7490]

even then it might take them about 5000 of those back hand slaps, at which point they'll annoy the boxer enough to wake up, kick their asses and go back to sleep

[@robertjbender]

Q: What can Tai Chi do against boxing? A: Nothing. You're gonna get KO-ed.

[@zacbarnes8887]

padding is weak and shit I've seen those people get their ass kicked by street fighters because of their ego and its not a skill for the streets its sport, let me say it again, SPORT

[@robertjbender]

Zac Barnes I'll take sports moves over choreographed dance moves any day.

[@margo.3466]

Very UNREALISTIC!

[@bacon8353]

LMAO THIS MAN WOULD GET BEAT DOWN IN A SECOND

[@Gearz86]

lol jesus... dont teach this to people who want to defend themselves from an attacker...youre doing them a disservice.

[@Atomic419]

I cannot wait for the day when Jake "The Joke" Mace gets in his first real fight. It's just a matter of time before someone challenges this clown. I hope to God it's recorded and posted to KZbin.

[@yagzyalcntas553]

There is no way he will accept the challenge, he knows he will lose. İf you just go and beat him up without asking.. Thats a different stroy

[@drspookyoofieoof316]

Has anyone even tried tai chi here

[@andysocial3400]

@@drspookyoofieoof316 Yep. I am sorry but a boxer would already be racking up the next hit and probably creating space seeing as Jake slipped. Little love taps with the back of your hand would not be felt by the boxers core conditioning. better to slip, trap and throw a boxer. stand up fight with this technique is a ride to the dentists plain and simple. Boxers aint shit if you take out their legs. have to catch them first though XD have you studied combat Taiji?

[@MaxZelkcovik]

@@drspookyoofieoof316 don't dream boy haha

[@josephgottlieb1652]

Jake . . I trained in traditional Shotokan / Aikido / Ninpo tai-jutsu since I was 13, hustled 4 different p/t thru HS, rode my bicycle thru rain, sleet or snow to HS, home to prep dinners I NEVER got to eat, then off the the dojo, THEN work afterwards until 11 or midnight, thru rain, sleet or snow & got thru HS on 4-5 hours sleep per night. OK, summer was more hours worked & a bit more sleep, but I had to pay for class-tuition, uniforms, tests, weapons, food, dental, medical, contacts, guitar lessons, clothing and bike tires 3+x yearly. My HS prom night, I taught / assisted the tail-end of a 90 minute children's class (my warm up), did the 90 minute 6pm class, then rode off to 7-11 to work until 1am, turning down beer sales to my HS classmates. Long Island winter snowstorms were RARE: NOT to have a good 2-footer at least once, and I showed up for a 6pm adult class on my 10-speed during a 2-footer, ZERO adults showed in their cars & I got a "private lesson" with my sensei, then he took me out for dinner afterwards . . At 16 y/old. as a brown belt, I taught adult classes with several black belts as "students", when my sensei got caught up in traffic, picking up his classmates from the airport. So, I guess you can say, I've "been around the block", a few times. WHAT you did to this beginner VICTIM: June 14, 2017, (student is a real stretch, because UNLESS he is your brother-in-law & he'll be "back for more freebies", I'd be SHOCKED to see this guy return for more humiliation & exploitation from you), was NOTHING short of mocking his lack of stamina / fitness and self aggrandizing your innate athletic ability. Because: THAT is ALL you did, in this video. Which is KIND of like a sociopath. Gee, did you "set the stage" by suggesting he down a hefty breakfast, before you did a 40+ minute abdominal-crush routine on him?? Do YOU have any recollection of your first weeks or month of training?? Do you give ANY thought to a moderate warm-up, progressing into a feel-out-your-student's agility, before jumping into a stress test? I saw an EASY dozen opportunities for YOU to suggest / correct his breathing patterns, where YOU clearly exhaled during an exertion, then smirked & smiled as he held his breath during each kick, punch or torsional twist . . And that sociopathic SMIRK got even bigger, when he paused to hold down his vomit. And you showed complete INDIFFERENCE when he BEGAN to puke. Even a gay-boy-lover would hold his head while vomiting, after he'd mouth raped his throat. But YOU, Jake . . you made him VOMIT, then gloated & titled the video how "he wanted to fight . . I made him vomit". Class fucking act. You know what they say?? "Those that CAN fight, DO". I walked away from 3X 3-on-1 fights before I was 11, BEFORE I could start working to pay for Budo instruction, 6 nights weekly. "Those that CAN'T fight, teach" . . which is a REAL stretch in YOUR case, since IF you were a half-assed DECENT sifu, you'd have 1 or more successful schools, and a few hundred loyal students. But INSTEAD . . You flash your psychopath colors & post videos of how athletic you are, and crush any/all potential beginner-students, by monetizing their 1st day attempts. NOTE: I said you ARE athletic . . . but attributing any martial SKILL SETS to you would be a REAL fucking stretch. Master Ken's Private Parts offers BETTER instruction on YT, than you. I'd have wiped your snot off the mats, when I was 15 as a purple belt. Try speeding up your video feeds, it'll make you appear more . . ade

[@scottytissue456]

Why the hell would you back slap him to the ribs when you could deliver a right hook to the body?

[@RealKungFu]

That would work too! Many options!

[@ShredST]

Because he doesn't actually know tai chi, and he's got that move all wrong. There are several applications of Parting Horse's Mane, none of which is a slap to the ribs.

[@kaitsith3081]

Or even a left hook to the solar plexus... One should always try to drop the person rather than simply hurt them. If they win, you may lose your life and your entire family may lose a member, or worse yet, you may end up severely disabled but live a long life.

[@sniperdoc8404]

ShredST He also has no clue what Fajing is. It certainly is not creating a "vibration in the body"... smh I can't believe he still peddles his "Tai Chi" to people. I feel sorry for those that are learning his style... :(

[@RealKungFu]

You can do many things! A right hook to the body would work well too!

[@tonyyang5219]

Everyone can do that at slow motion, but not the real fight sucker

[@joeltorres1073]

Hey idiot why dont you try it and then comment

[@CJDcow]

Please list 2 pieces of evidence that suggest he didn't try it before the comment. Thanks.

[@hammercanttouchthis]

Tony Yang you could end the Chi master in a few seconds with streetfight moves (kick to the groin/mid section) or a boxer that actually punches, dips and dives like a *real* boxer.💪

[@gabrielday9519]

Tony Yang probably couldn't stand 2 seconds in the ring with Jack Mace. Before you know it Mace could hit him with one move.

[@demonology2629]

I can teach way better than this , he's not sticking or following the joining with the opponent, he's not matching with the opponent, he not occupying the superior position, my STYLE is Yang Tai Chi Chuan, is and he did'nt teach anything about going against a boxer,,,, sigh😶

[@partisan72]

absolutely love Tai Chi but c'mon,man,do some real speed&power demo not a choreography where a boxer attacks with a speed of a snail and then stands still like a statue and he will destroy you like a little toy.

[@vincentsiuta8778]

If gibberish was a martial art.

[@Archone666]

When I first started training in Mui Thai after years in Taekwondo, the instructor worked around the clock to "cure" me of my TKD habits. At first I used my arms to block as I'd been trained in TKD, which was extremely effective. Then I started trying to slip and hold my hands like a boxer... and I started getting whacked around, because I'd gone from "well trained TKD defense" to "total beginner boxer defense." It's not the art, it's the artist. All the people sneering "Jake Mace would get creamed in a real fight against a real boxer" are clearly ignorant of the fact that the second counter he's demonstrating here is a tai chi version of BOXING. Slip outside, right shovel hook to the torso... and then what looked like the start of a left hook to the torso for a two punch combo to the midsection. The only real difference is that in boxing you "fall" into each step and punch, whereas in tai chi you put your foot down before shifting your weight onto that leg. A difference in style... much like how different boxers have different styles, from the textbook footwork with upright guard, to the "unorthodox" guard with a wider stance for an emphasis on slipping and bobbing, to heavy footed movements for power in every punch.

[@sunpacbrolygokuzu3609]

Iv'e noticed with a lot of these kung fu guys, they all have that cliche kung fu mentality where they think that "if i do this, i negate this this" or "My theoretical art form totally applies to practical circumstances" and they always demonstrate against people who have zero idea of what they're doing and they always have a seriously narrow and ignorant perspective on a certain fighting style when demonstrating their style against it. This guy's a fraud who'd get murdered by "F" level bantamweights, that movie shit only works in the movies.

[@littlecannon]

So true!

[@vpecoraro1]

Bullshit! A highly trained martial artist, and tai chi IS a martial art, will have developed the technique to defend himself and inflict great damage. I am not talking 90 dao wonders. A true martial artist devotes himself to his art and studies, trains, applies his techniques. I don't say if he does then I do that, I train myself to react sub-consiously to the attack as I can defend and counter as I desire. It doesn't happen overnight; it takes years of intense training. During those years skills are built to defend against multiple attachers

[@narc440]

Most moves in forms are practical for a fight. Maybe if you actually took the time to understand eastern martial arts than you would know this. My shaolin monk doesn't just teach forms, he also teaches basic combos for a fight to be beginners who don't know much about forms. He also teaches chin na which is joint locks and how to escape from grabs etc etc etc. Shaolin monks do more than just forms, but there is a reason why they do master forms. But this guy, Fake Mace, is a fraud and is teaching fake kung fu. Fake Mace hardly ever tells what the applications of his so called "forms" are. He tells what the move in the form is for, but he doesn't demonstrate it on a real person. I can't confirm that everything he teaches doesn't work, because he is a fraud. Some or none of his shit might be practical, idk because i've only done real kung fu for about six months. No one mustn't trust what he is teaching because he is a scam artist and has no permission from his superiors to be teaching. Hope ya'll took something from my comment.

[@b.b.g.fitzgerald3860]

vietnamese kung fu was used for a thousand years on the battlefield...

[@sunpacbrolygokuzu3609]

Arkillik In your case I'd understand. But this dude makes Kung Fu look bad.

[@sma_amarhikmatiarilham8398]

2:28 what are you doing lol, no damage

[@HH-bi7yk]

Master tai chi, you should try Mma and see how it works out for your plan.

[@RealKungFu]

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[@RealKungFu]

TheAngelic SeraphimFarron Hey TheAngelic. It was called "Man of Tai Chi" with Keanu Reeves! No, I don't believe in Qi like that! I don't believe that humans are "X-Men" Characters! I do believe that you can gain master of yourself and mastery of any skill with time and effort! That is what Kung Fu is all about! Practice over time using lots of effort! Good luck!

[@dragunbwoi]

Someone's been watching too many movies

[@Hunt8rJob]

TheAngelic SeraphimFarron Humans already use more than 10% of their brain, that is an old myth. Some references - faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth

[@cxl2993]

used to do Capoiera in high school

[@kension333]

JewMuricaWarOn ChildrenOfAdam Funny they can never do it with a scientific control in place.

[@danielk1361]

The main thing that concerns me about this video, is that a boxers jab comes back very quick and gives time for repositioning and defence. I'd think for it to be more effective against a jab, you'd have to slip and strike at the same time. It would have also been nice to get some input from the boxer about the techniques.

[@texanplayer7651]

I've never seen such a nad tai chi in my entire life! Go look for master wong's tai chi and dare tell me jake mace isn't a fake

[@chrislambatan7401]

He demonstrated two things. A slip followed by a counter and fast twitch muscle training to increase the effectiveness of the counter. This is then compared to boxing. Which also has slips/counters/ and fast twitch muscle training. The key take away is martial arts is composed of combat and art. If you breakdown the art you will be able to see the combative application. Though not all people choose to practice the combative nature of the martial "art" it's still there. Boxing is a sport. It is comprised of special rules such as safety gear (boxing gloves), a ring, rules, and timed bouts. The only way to "beat" a boxer is to be a better boxer than the boxer you are fighting. It's like comparing basketball vs football... they're different they shouldn't be compared at face value. Finally if you just so happened to find yourself in a street fight with a boxer remember boxing is a sport. Street fights comprise of no rules, weapons, the environment, foul play, unfair match ups, and potentially multiple enemies. You could be the best boxer, tai chi dude, mma fighter, etc. At the end of the day a street fight is a street fight. Only the people who understand there are no rules and are willing to do anything to survive will come out on top.

[@andrewalandabeba4475]

This probably one of the best responses I’ve seen so far👌🏽

[@RealKungFu]

What City Are YOU Watching From! Tell me below! :)

[@madeleph]

Derby, England

[@bayaneelbacha4255]

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[@cristianmayen8283]

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[@Ducky6229]

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[@alexrequejo]

+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace Mexico city! really nice flow of energy.

[@rootiest]

Tai Chi is not practical for fighting at all. Boxing is I would say 90% practical in actual combat. To give u one example, just look at the first technique in this video. When the jab is thrown, he will barely start to react to it, and when he STARTS to go for that 45 degree angle step, the jab is already on its way back (that is if he didnt get hit by the jab). So, essentially, a three step process described here "react, step (pick your foot off the ground and move it to a different location and place it) and punch" will ALWAYS be slower than just "punch and retract" In a real life combat situation, we're talking in milliseconds. Remember that. Tai Chi is a very good (seems to me like a non impact) exercise for elders.

[@klowe007]

The boxer should throw a realistic full-speed jab. A real boxer can reveal several weaknesses of tai chi and wing chun.

[@davidedwards2401]

Thank you

[@istvankm]

Please don't try that back hand slap to the ribs in a real fight. You probably won't make it out alright.

[@keen2419]

+istvankm There is similar movement in Jeet Kune Do, where you hit directly your opponents under his arms and second one to the kidney. I assume this guy trying to adapt similar move to tai chi :P which won't do any damage but himself. :P

[@istvankm]

Left Right Yeah, I don't like that this guy's showing people moves that will most likely give them confidence in a fight and, at the same time, help them get their own ass kicked! I took Ken Po about 14 years ago, and they based a lot of their moves on jeet kune do. They taught a LOT of snap backfist moves to the face and front snap kicks to the groin. The snap backfists are quick, but I doubt it will do more than leave a bruise on most people, if that. Maybe it could stun your opponent, if they're absolutely out of shape and have no fight experience... or are much smaller than you which is kinda messed up :) A quick boxing jab is much more efficient in accuracy and power. However, Ken Po did teach me how to kick quite effectively for which I am forever greatful.

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[@jlogan2228]

istvankm plus something that none of these instructors point out. Most likely the person attacking you is probably going to be much bigger and stronger bc they see you as an easy target. These can be guys that you could full power punch to the face and they barely stagger. All the snap backfists and rib slaps are useless against that. Or that in real fights that person is on you like a rabid dog meaning flurries of strikes with them trying to run through you. Stuff like this will just end with you on the ground with them on top of you beating you to death

[@goyatleaz]

That “slap” can break ribs.. the washing effect can damage the pancreas as well.

[@carrotcake8955]

I can't work out if this is parody or serious

[@ix.x.mmxxii5486]

Sadly serious

[@akimmofford1320]

Yes tickle my ribs. While I attack you in slow motion. This is of course the matrix.. duh!!

[@kw271]

A boxer like Tyson spent a lot of hours to build reflex and speed. A TaiChi boxer would do no less. The fact that most people. Practice the forms more than figuring out how to fight with it, is the proof that it is stemming from a different training protocol. Expecting someone who is using Taichi as a slow meditative form to suddenly go 180 degrees to speed and ferocity is not only ignorant of the differences between martial arts and pugilism but is also evident of their veteran status as veteran armchair boxing masters, no more. My respect to SiFu Mace who has the passion to investigate and explore and incorporate the forms into real-life combat situations. You are one of the rare few. The fact that boxing has only 3 primary attacks (punch hook cut,) while TaiChi has more than over 105 fain (explosive force) methods, and 72 qinna (grappling and joint locking) moves, (while Bagua Palm has about 64 forms and configurations and combos,) is not to boast nor to clutter the fighter's options but rather it gives the combat taichi martial artists the strategyand options to engage other muscles and tendons after the regularly used muscle can rest and conserve the energies for longer fights. For my case , i seldom stay beyond 3kicks and about 6 punch attacks 2 feints and 2 ripostes for Bagua Palm boxing Consider this -- boxing's rounds are short so the boxers can rest up for the next ones, and those rounds can add up, but research has pointed to combat TaiChi can go for longer rounds if needs be-- or end a fight decisively. Therefore, it is about versatility., and survival. If you still don't understand it, then consider this analogy: a marathoner may not have the explosive force of a sprinter, and a sprinter may not last the distance as a marathoner. I practice a form of Bagua Palm, but our group have always been innovating/ rediscovering it for street-style combat , and I daresay there is over 8 of us, and we each use the forms more aligned to our personalities, strategies, utilizing our strengths and compensating our weaknesses. It is not only an excellent fitness alternative, but it engages our minds as much as chess. When Mike Tyson made that quote, know that it is coming from a milieu of showboating and trash talking, it may have some truth in it, but like all blanket statements, it stretches thin when it meets up with exceptions.... And the exceptionals . My deepest appreciation for what SiFu Mace does here, and I remain an ethused subscriber to his videos.

[@nyudoragon1478]

Have a nice day

[@skadush4234]

M thinking how that boxer hold his laugh. 😂.