Shaper Origin Mortise & Tenon

[@chadryk5]

Watching this makes me want to invest in one of these units despite my partner having a giant industrial CNC router. Thanks for sharing!

[@ramonartful]

It’s such a fun machine! I like the quick turnaround from idea to execution. Cheers

[@EMWoodworking]

I just got one of these a few weeks ago. I got some great tips watching your video.

[@ramonartful]

You’re gonna love it! And thanks for watching the vid

[@peterquinn350]

Stumbled upon your channel a month or so ago (thanks YT algorithm) and became an instant subscriber. Great work along with clean and simple video makes it a pleasure to watch your content. Thank you for sharing!

[@ramonartful]

Thanks for the good words and feedback! I appreciate this 🙏🏼

[@bryanschroeder6379]

Thank you for doing this content. I have been thinking about this tool. I have no Cnc experience or woodworking in general, getting older, and I wish to change that and do more craftsmanship.

[@ramonartful]

Glad to hear it! Thank you! I’m the same way…a bit behind with technology. This is a good alternative. I may be teaching a class on the Shaper in the future. Interested?

[@patrickbarber5300]

Thanks. I am digging my Shaper Origin and always looking for places to use it. It is such a handy tool. I recently wanted a large radius on the edges of a couple charcuterie boards. In the past I would of drawn them out and then cut on the band saw but that rarely comes out perfect. I used the Origin to cut a 96" radius on the long sides of the boards and bam, perfect! love it.

[@ramonartful]

That’s awesome to hear! Yeah, so many uses for this incredible machine!

[@JennsTurn]

Thank you for the Shaper tips! You do beautiful work. I love your desert landscapes!

[@ramonartful]

Thanks Jenn! Do you have a Shaper? The Shiprock scene is a fantastic intro to working with veneer!

[@lissataylor12345]

Thanks for sharing. Love the fresh approach to the frame. Beautiful results.

[@ramonartful]

Thank you tons. I wanted the design of the frame to tie in or at least resemble slightly the New Mexico logo.

[@edehrenwlad1408]

Always learn tons from you. Small details make it worth. Thanks.

[@ramonartful]

Thank you…I love hearing this!

[@waterboy8999]

That's a really cool machin, and in the right hands too! I love how you work Ramon. A little tip incase you don't already know, if a picture won't hang plumb pop a little BlueTack on the bottom corners. Best wishes from Scotland.

[@ramonartful]

Scotland…that’s cool! Thanks for the good words. And I had to Google search Blu Tack! I usually use cabinet bumpers 😬 but that stuff has a lot of uses! Much thanks.

[@waterboy8999]

@@ramonartful you're welcome!

[@sz3231]

Between glue, bondo-wood filler, epoxy and stains, I use a ton of chopsticks. I actually buy them in bulk online. That was great to see someone on your level doing the same 🤣. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@ramonartful]

Yep! I love em. Round works way better inside mortises as well as mixing! Thanks for watching and your feedback!

[@yamahaxt652]

Thanks for a great Shaper Origin vid. Also stealing magnetic blocks for pipe clamps!

[@ramonartful]

Cool! Glad to hear you liked. And yeah, the magnetic blocks I use all the time! Cheers

[@thwwoodcraft1449]

Great video Ramon. I'd be interested to see you work this joint out on the Pantorouter.

[@ramonartful]

Thanks a lot! This could be accomplished quite easily with the Pantorouter but it would require some spacers perhaps. I don’t think both mortises (or tenons) could be cut with one template. Anyway…thanks for the idea for another YT video!

[@thwwoodcraft1449]

@@ramonartful spacers I can manage. But if it were doable with a single template that would be great.

[@ramonartful]

@@thwwoodcraft1449 Yeah...I don't really see how one could cut twin tenons this small with a single template at the Panorouter since it uses a 2:1 ratio. Let me think about this. Thanks

[@HammDesign]

Great video, how did you set the grid for the mortise when it extends beyond the workstation table since you need three points of reference... Thanks

[@ramonartful]

It won’t matter that your actual work piece or components are beyond the Shaper WorkStation. After you scan…you can grid…utilizing two points along the x axis and a third along one y axis. Hope that helps. Thanks

[@deltivan]

This is awesome, but a bit time-consuming. I recently got a shaper, but I don’t think I’ll be using it this type of joinery. I can do at least 20 joints with my domino in the time it takes to make a single one with the shaper. Very instructional though.

[@ramonartful]

Yeah…I agree. The Shaper Origin is awesome but there are other ways that are much faster. I just wanted to create the twin M&Ts to show its versatility. Anyway, thanks a ton for watching.

[@sailronin]

Nice job.

[@ramonartful]

Thank you. Not the fastest way…but it was accurate! And fun 😬

[@rbs52guy]

Ramon that was great! Always learn a ton when watching your vids! Wondering if you have plans available to build that belt sander stand? Could definitely find a use for that jig. Thanks again!

[@ramonartful]

That’s great to hear! And yep…here’s the link ramonvaldezfinefurniture.com/product/belt-sander-dock-drawings-parts-list/

[@PaulLeslieGriffiths]

Hi Ramon, so i am currently in the middle of making the decision to get the shaper and i am looking for reasons to bite the bullet... While i know it can be used for tenon and mortice joints as you have shown, surely it is just as quick with the domino, which you could also have used in this situation. id really like to see why it is more than just an expensive toy? dont get me wrong, i love my toys, but this thing is expensive. At this moment i just see it as a template maker and sign writer? Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

[@ramonartful]

That’s a good and valid question. Although I can’t speak for everyone, since I don’t know their work load or type of tasks they do…I can say that I use mine WAY more often than I thought I would. I just finished a high end project where the focus point is an inlay of the Mesa Police Logo. I could have created this with hand cut marquetry but it had tiny details that needed to be perfect. Just last week I needed a jig with a hole to fit a vacuum hose. With the Shaper Origin I was able to quickly make a slightly tapered hole that fits the hose perfectly and a custom sized slot! Jigs are perfect and quick. Templates…fast. My recent “Table for six”…I used the SO no less than 12 times for all sorts of tasks that would have been nearly impossible without something this accurate. Pivoting hardware, perfect magnet cavities, aluminum bearing blocks, magnetic & leaf shaped keys, the locking mechanism, signature and logo, a template for the Pantorouter, and even engraved instructions on the bottom of the table. It is pricey. But I can easily say that it can pay for itself, even on one job! I made a large barn door a couple years back that had a large inlay of a mountain scene. That job would have easily covered the cost and some. Anyway, I’m not trying to convince anyone…but for me…I cannot see myself without a Shaper Origin! I have access to a promo code (ends Dec 20th) if you’re interested. Cheers.

[@grupp61]

Another great video Ramon. Sooo if you could only have one is it: Shaper Origin Pantorouter Domino Yeah, I know Festool has 2 of the above and they are sponsors??...only one though Thanks

[@ramonartful]

Really good question. Everybody’s situation or needs would be different. Personally, I would probably have a Domino…especially since I sell hundreds of Docks! 😬 In fairness, they are completely different machines, each with their own capabilities and strongpoints. If one was building furniture where integral tenons were important, then Pantorouter all the way! Someone looking at building some furniture and small boxes, the Domino is a good fit. Another that may be interested in doing inlay, or cutting odd sized templates…maybe the Shaper Origin is a good choice. I am sponsored by two of the machines…so I do feel blessed for having all three. Thanks a ton.

[@qfudgedoggy]

How do you like the Hammer A3?

[@ramonartful]

I like it. Of course, if I had the space I would have stand alone machines. But this machine is solid and accurate both as a jointer and planer.

[@frankshannon3235]

I would have used loose tenons. That way you aren't depending on a router for the mating edges.

[@ramonartful]

Yeah…that’s a good option. I just wanted to try the capability of this machine. It’s amazing for many things but not my first choose for mortise and tenon’s. Cheers

[@davidbedrosian1567]

Another great Shaper Origin project, Ramon. It's an amazingly accurate machine and I love it every time I use it. I have a question about your grid layout when cutting the tenons. Is there a reason you didn't reference off the back portion of the vertical table of the Workstation rather than using the workpiece? Wouldn't that eliminate any slight error if the workpieces were not exactly the same thickness? Obviously, it worked just fine since your end result is perfect (puhfect 🙂)

[@ramonartful]

Hey David…good catch! Yes, I should have referenced off the back of the work piece! By the time I thought of that, I had already started…and a couple thou diff in material probably didn’t make much difference here. I had marked my reference corner front/left…and since I’m so used to referencing off of that corner, I never thought about it until I was already cutting. Meh…it worked 😬. Thanks

[@davidbedrosian1567]

@@ramonartful thanks for your response, Ramon. It's nice to have so many grid options.

[@HectorHernandez-lo4pi]

🔥

[@ramonartful]

🙏🏼👊🏼

[@jerseycornboy]

I could have been done with the cuts by the time you were halfway through with the long long task of setting up this thing. Take a ruler mark the wood take router with guide and zoom zoom done. Later on in the day you will still be inputting computer stuff into this little gadget. No thanks.

[@ramonartful]

I get it. I cut mortise n tenons a lot of different ways. I just wanted to show yet another way. Now, some people like technology and enjoy things like this. You’d be surprised as to the vast amount of things that this machine is actually capable of. I know for a fact that many of those tasks one could not do by conventional methods. At least not accurately. Not trying to convince you…to each their own. Happy Holidays!

[@waterboy8999]

And I could have done it in a quarter of the time with my pet Beaver but the little guy was just back from the dentist.

[@johnmutton799]

I bet your customers paid for that! and you have cheap crap chisels?

[@ramonartful]

Not sure what you mean? My customer paid for what? And are you talking about my Marples chisels? They’re decent. I also have expensive Japanese chisels! 😬💪🏼