Shaq on being the 5th-best center of all-time

Shaq responds to being called the fifth-best center of all-time 🗣️
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[@shawnturner2404]

Shaq is definitely #3 but I’m not mad at anyone who has Hakeem ahead of him

[@sb22md]

yea i have hakeem ahead of shaq bc hakeem was a far better defender

[@JBdoesball]

​@@sb22mdreal I have him below Kareem Hakeem and Bill Russell

[@FLValentino]

Hakeem was more talented and had a higher skill level, but at the center position dominance is a tad bit more important than skill. So I’ll give the slight edge to Shaq.

[@zacchfromdalou9679]

@@JBdoesballexplain how someone who was going up against majority white plumbers and carpenters on the weekends over Shaq🤔🥴 math ain’t mathing my boay🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JBdoesball]

@@zacchfromdalou9679 one of the greatest defenders of all time 11 rings 4 MVPs and ridiculous stats plus one of the greatest rebounders of all time

[@GhANeC]

For shaq’s personality, that’s actually pretty humble lol

[@ItsNahni]

Because you just watch him on TV and think that’s his personality. It’s a tv show

[@tay4480]

​@@ItsNahniTELL HIMMMM

[@user-tk1fr8nk6v]

Hakeem Dominanted on both ends and never played with the talent Shaq played with. #1 in blocks #9 in steals. Retired top 10 in 4 of the 5 major categories.

[@wilchan9931]

i mean .. what should shaq do about the talent ??? shipped them away ??

[@cesarbarbosa8875]

Yea but it was orlando shaq, not prime shaq

[@Sixstonesage]

What’s harder ? Being the best on a trash team or being the best on a stacked team?

[@Baelitfamsquad]

Hakeem played with PLENTY of talent

[@lastjedi7302]

2 rings to Shaqs 4

[@noexcusestv2027]

The dream gave shaq that work every time

[@dontmindme4197]

That’s pretty humble of him tbh

[@erniejohnson677]

Prime Hakeem with Kobe over prime shaq

[@choox708]

He wont let a current player would pass him

[@kevinzhu6417]

​@@choox708or a player who competed and won against him (Hakeem)

[@IAmTheRealHim]

@@kevinzhu6417in his 3rd year…

[@bohanxu6125]

​@@erniejohnson677 Hakeem is not even close to Shaq. Shaq is one of the most underrated great player. People would hang on to any small instance of imperfection from Shaq in order to pay respect to other great centers like Hakeem. If one ignores those narrative factor, and only look at the stats of head-to-head match up between Shaq and Hakeem (and other centers at the time), you would see Shaq dominated all those centers in almost all games by a large margin. It wasn't even close. Even in that infamous magic-rocket playoff series, Shaq was still pretty much had the same stats line as Hakeem... outside of that specific cherrypicked series, Shaq completely dominated Hakeem. Seriously google "shaq hakeem heat to head matchup stats game by game" and see the result yourself.

[@Somethingwittyxs4ku]

If Shaq took his conditioning seriously, he may have been higher.

[@Ronny_Ron]

Will! He will definitely have scored more. He had no discipline. Kobe was right in saying Shaq would have been in the GOAT discussion if he had discipline

[@kila3477]

​@@Ronny_Ron shaq with the mj mentality would be the goat

[@robertsuchy2369]

That's the crazy thing even without the conditioning he's still in the top 3

[@Ronny_Ron]

@@kila3477 unquestionably, you're right. It's that simple: Shaq with MJ mentality would be goat

[@SirStazian]

If Shaq cared about the game he would be the undisputed GOAT. But he didn’t.

[@NTG9601]

The Dream was hitting you with that lateral movement though Big Fella

[@MrArgman]

I love both Hakeem and Shaq, no doubt prime Hakeem had the edge on young Shaq and prime Shaq pounded on old Hakeem. Would have loved to see them go at it both at their apex. 94 Hakeem vs 2001 Shaq. Shaq vs Wilt have been awesome to see as well if any of those stories about Wilts insane strength are true..

[@ozonespec]

Shaq was most dominant center but Hakeem had the best foot work I've ever seen in a big Man. He was super smooth with it.

[@jordancoolwell8347]

I agree he was good

[@trinidad510]

​@@jordancoolwell8347"Good" is a huge understatement. He was all time great

[@troyAZB]

Just wanna remind everyone Moses Malone is a three time MVP. Not saying he’s better than Shaq, just a reminder for why he in the convo

[@jakejake909]

Shaq had it 3x too. Along with 3x finals mvp

[@troyAZB]

@@jakejake909 Shaq is not a three mvp, despite how much revisionists wanna give him Nash’s very well earned MVPs

[@snipergangdrob5940]

⁠@@troyAZBNash has one well earned one. And people don't try to give them to Shaq they try and give the awards to Kobe. (he deserved the 06 MVP)

[@prolific1518]

​@@troyAZBNash stole 1 from Shaq and LeBron each

[@jamaalhorton2343]

@@jakejake909 no Shaq has 1 mvp

[@FarazSyed-ke2cv]

Hakeem a legend def top 5

[@gorcsauce696]

Shaq is fuckign Shaq dude dominated 💀in his peak like crazy he so good people think Kobe was him those first 3 years lol

[@Daniel_AurA]

​@@gorcsauce696your grammar is atrocious.

[@AB_7092]

@@gorcsauce696Hakeem swept shaq tho

[@Dub257]

@@Daniel_AurA😂

[@FatherMac]

⁠@@Daniel_AurAwhat are you a grammer cop? Is your cognitive ability so far grown that you cannot decipher simple spelling mistakes? Talk about 🅱️itch made emotionally driven bozos😂

[@tomodomo1000]

Hakeem playing with Kobe = more rings.

[@DennisManlangit-hd4mz]

Shaq didn’t play defense like The Dream. He only passed up Dream on his dreams.

[@TeacherLegendary]

Shaq's offense is 10x better

[@vedounamanicadimasochisti]

@@TeacherLegendaryHell no. Shaq's defense is 10x worse though.

[@TeacherLegendary]

@@vedounamanicadimasochisti you smoking strong stuff

[@vedounamanicadimasochisti]

@@TeacherLegendaryLOL you're just mixing team success and individual value up. Shaq was a telepass against pick and roll and wasn't nowhere near as complete as Olajuwon. Dream was almost as unstoppable on offense, and definitely more effective in the clutch (I'm not even talking about free throws). Charles Barkley has a better prime than O'Neal and Malone has the best carreer. Shaq was the best in the paint, of course... still, there's more than that.

[@tface8366]

​@@TeacherLegendary Nah, Offense? Hakeem is literally one of if not the most skilled bigman to ever play the game, people literally pay him a lot of cash just to teach them footwork on both sides of the court. Hakeem had a middy, was a better free throw shooter, footwork in the paint, the only thing Shaq has over Hakeem is strength and that's it.

[@jonnydaly3939]

He says number 3 here behind Wilt and Kareem but ive heard him put Olajuwan ahead of him several times on inside the nba

[@mastergamingnic1681]

Right I always remembered him giving Olajuwon the respect that he deserved, don’t know why he’s only talking about all time points scored as the metric of measurement for greatness

[@trevorlewellin4698]

It just depends on what he feels like saying that day😂

[@joshwoodburn5249]

⁠@@mastergamingnic1681because he knows his defense was questionable. Unstoppable on offense but any big man with footwork could cook him 😂

[@wvu05]

I've also heard him say he was fourth and included Russell.

[@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut]

I’ve heard him say Bill was the greatest big man of all time numerous times

[@cnvdh3514]

That's the most humble I've ever seen Shaq 😂

[@parkinsaw]

Well when it comes to the centres he doesn't disrespect. (For them, specifically Hakeem he shows a ton of respect) *main reason being Hakeems footwork cooked him many times when he was on Orlando and he fully admits it. Reason it's tricky with Shaq is the league had to create special rules in order to try and stop his dominance.

[@moroccoisback477]

Dominant , already in finals in 1995 , 4 titles Yes number 3 Prime Shaq was unstoppable

[@spiritless07]

Then you don't watch enough Shaq.

[@stolensentience]

“I passed Hakeem up” 😂😂😂😂

[@JacksonWalter735]

For real. Hakeem played both ends of the floor. There’s a reason Shaq making all defensive SECOND team 3x was the highlight of his defensive career. Not only was Hakeem dominant on the offensive end, he was dominant on the defensive end too. 2x Defensive Player of the Year, 5x all defensive first team, 4x all defensive second team, 3x blocks leader, and 2x rebounding leader. Shaq also had Penny, Kobe, DWade, and even the amazing Suns/young Lebron when he was old. Hakeem didn’t play with guys on that level except an old Clyde Drexler for his second championship. Rookie and Sophmore Hakeem had 2 decent years of Ralph Sampson too, but nothing compared to Shaq’s help

[@stolensentience]

@@JacksonWalter735 yeah it isn’t particularly close. I guess he passed him up by getting swept and running to Kobe so the league could manufacture them a faux dynasty by rigging games. Congrats, shaq!

[@ladanehaten4283]

Hakeem is ahead and Shaquille and when they played each other Hakeem DOMINATED.

[@tyt5248]

Moses Malone is mad underrated

[@cadenceangel]

Yep. 100%

[@jakehoover6655]

Still below Shaq.

[@DeCurtaRican]

Everybody who knows basketball knows he was the sh!t.

[@nelspaulson3099]

Everyone always forgets Bill Russell. 11 rings in 13 seasons. When the team needed a head coach after Red retired, they went with the only person they knew who could motivate Bill Russell, and that was Bill Russell. So the final 3 seasons he played and was head coach. And won 2 championships as both before retiring. Russell did the impossible at the Defensive end and while never the force others were on the offensive side, all he did was win. Offense gets the glory, defense wins the championships.

[@danielives379]

Ya , but there were 8 teams in 1968 and 10 teams in 1969.. So not alot of talent to defend for the Celtics at that time. SHAQ played 82 games a year against 30 other teams. So there is that. 😮

[@nelspaulson3099]

@@danielives379 Lakers still had wilt Chamberlain who Shaq put ahead of him. Celtics beat those Lakers 6 times. Russell won 57 games against Chamberlain while losing 37 over his career. So individual starts may show Chamberlain, but many states including blocks and rebounds weren't stats until 73, and winning trumps stats as well.

[@martinw2235]

Thank you!

[@metalfingers2129]

@@nelspaulson3099 Shaq himself only says Wilt because of points. Those points were earned in an era that it was much easier to get those points in. Wilt was legit 2 feet taller than everyone around him. Russell also had the same era of basketball which is why we don't put them in the same discussion. If it was purely the amount of rings that made you the best, we would never be talking about Jordan. Russell would be the clear goat, but he's not, is he?

[@nelspaulson3099]

@@metalfingers2129 Jordan had said Russell is goat due to rings.

[@mahony617]

Bill Russell bro why doesn't anyone give this man his flowers

[@stimmybutler6709]

Cause he only averaged 15 points a game

[@TeacherLegendary]

apparently defense only matters if you can score? casual af@@stimmybutler6709

[@daniellittlejohn4398]

He’s trash watch a video of him actually play. All he can do it play defence. But plays it at the highest level possible

[@seattlewa8500]

@@stimmybutler6709He knew he didn’t have to score to win. His teammates could score. He concentrated on defense, rebounding, shot blocking and passing. If he had to score more he could have, but he knew he didn’t have to. That is why he won 11 championships in 13 years. He had no ego.

[@platiumplay]

​@@daniellittlejohn4398the player with the most championships is "trash" is a crazy thing to say

[@ClaytonScottRhodes]

Honestly, if i wanted to win a game, i would take a team with Hakeem AND Shaq versus a team with Kareem and Wilt. But anybody not having Russell Top 5 is CRAZY. Bro has ELEVEN championships. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 And he went up against Wilt.

[@gxlxzylul6914]

Yea but bill had a superstar team they played in a bum era wit lil to no teams his only real comp was wilt but wilt didn’t have as much as bill did his entire starting line up was some of the only stars in the league they were the first super team no shit they was cooking 💀

[@BreakingNVain]

Oh yes, I remember when Shaq passed up Olajuwon. It was on Reptemver 47th, 9087....

[@letgabeequaltrue9097]

If Shaq would have been a 70% free throw shooter he would be #1.

[@connman8d617]

Facts. Also, if he just followed Kobe into the gym every day they would have won 6 straight titles and Shaq would be considered the GOAT.

[@KidDynamite25]

Nope! He's #3 behind Kareem and Hakeem. He's above Wilt but that's arguable. He can NOT play defence like either Hakeem or Kareem. If Shaq's FT% was 99% he'd still be clearly behind BOTH

[@KidDynamite25]

​@connman8d617 Hakeem > Shaq and it's obvious.

[@connman8d617]

@@KidDynamite25 Shaq was a much more dominant offensive player than Hakeem though and shot a much higher percentage from the floor. His main drawback was, again, free throws.

[@thepokemonguys_]

If Shaq was half as disciplined as Kareem he'd be top 3 player of all time, not just #1 center.

[@Dan-su4lr]

Shaq was the most dominant. He speaks the truth.

[@TheAndrewsAve]

"I have to see if there's any truth in the criticism" should be the internet's new aspirational quote

[@313drepeso313]

Shaq was my guy!!! But Hakeem is better, best all-around center in NBA history to me!

[@KidDynamite25]

Hakeem is the GOAT C.... real one's know it

[@313drepeso313]

@@KidDynamite25 💯

[@JesseJVillarreal26]

Russo lost me when he said Tim Duncan, that’s a power forward and is the greatest player at that position

[@lucrussell9363]

Tim Duncan playing 3/4 of his career as a center and probably meaning he should be viewed as a center more is a hard thing to accept

[@ncase956]

Tim Duncan played a lot of center for the spurs.

[@Sticktothemodels]

@@lucrussell9363it wasn’t 3/4ths of his career. Duncan wasn’t consistently playing Center until after 09 when they got rid of McDyess. He was drafted in 97 and retired in 2016.

[@ddavis8988]

Duncan played more years at C than he did at PF.

[@Sticktothemodels]

In other words, Duncan’s entire prime was at PF. Won ROTY, 3x Rings, 3x FMVP, 2x MVP all at the PF position

[@dashrirprock]

Jordan said Hakeem is the center on his unbeatable dream team.

[@RobTheSeer]

4th, Dream shook him up. "Carried by Kobe" - Chuck 😂

[@manuelayala926]

I like how he says kareem yes 😂😂😂

[@BoxingGenius2024]

Even tho we all know Kareem cant stop Shaq

[@003faze]

​@@BoxingGenius2024and Kareem had an unstoppable shot

[@melvinamante4908]

Bill Russell

[@bigkaris912]

*is overrated

[@dbethea2744]

No

[@Potato_Peeler445]

I think they’re calling him a PF.

[@datchief780]

Bill 'lord of the rings' Russell

[@verward]

​@@bigkaris912 nobody from his era thinks so. He got 5 MVPs because his peers thought that highly of him.

[@mikelivingston6157]

I remember Hakeem schooling Shaq most of the time and even when he got older

[@BagOfBurgers]

As a lifelong Rockets fan who grew up watching Hakeem dominate night in and night out… I agree with Shaq lol

[@melvinmelendez6333]

Wilt have more rebounds , blocks ,steals than anyone.

[@BoxingGenius2024]

Wilt played in a league with a bunch of white boys who were under 6ft tall & no 3 point line bruh The whole game was revolved around the Center back then! all the white guys did was pass the ball around the perimeter & soon as Wilt even appeared open he got the ball for a layup the game was BORING AF back then! Wilt took 10x more shots than all of them newer Centers!

[@rameinaussie]

Kobe is the finest reader of the game if he said Wilt is better he is better.​@@BoxingGenius2024

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@BoxingGenius2024 Lie harder.

[@WispFigment]

​@@UnconventionalReasoning honestly the 60s during wilt's prime was a harder era then the 70s during Kareem's prime

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@WispFigment Yes, especially when some of the best players were going to the ABA instead of the NBA. Players like Dr J, Artis GIlmore, Iceman, Rick Barry, Mel Daniels, George McGinnis.

[@chettywap1620]

Hakeem worked that mf😭

[@platiumplay]

Shaq has twice as many rings

[@BEFREE3]

if shaq hit free throws like Embid, he'd be the goat at 5

[@DeCurtaRican]

How can the GOAT be #5. A GOAT = #1.

[@andydufresne567]

​@@DeCurtaRicanposition 5

[@andrewa2173]

I seem to remember Hakeen schooling Shaq in the finals.

[@mikereyes5658]

Shaq always humble but he is top 2 he change the game w the rules. Teams literally drafted guys to stop him or use em to foul n send him to the ft

[@Stewartaj2010]

No one changed the game more than Wilt

[@anuragC819]

Damn Bill Russell not even in the conversation is fucking wild

[@ATF-]

He wasn’t particularly a great player, just a good player in a hood situation

[@mattturner5750]

Nope. He is in his own category.

[@reillyhopf6508]

​@@ATF-Imagine saying the best defender of all time who is the best leader in the history of the sport, a bare minimum top three rebounder, and a solid offensive player is not great.

[@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381]

He was just on a good team

[@nelspaulson3099]

@@ATF-It would probably be different if the NBA started keeping several stats like rebounding, steals, and blocks before 73. 3 years after Russell retired.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Hakeem passed your ass up in the finals 1v1 😂😂😂

[@PaulMahoney-pu8zi]

Olajuwan kicked his ass in the Finals.

[@rpfcreates4476]

That clip was freakin ridiculous with the light yet massive push and hop away

[@KiNgStoN1461]

Seeing hakeem cooking shaq for 10 years makes my grandad never put shaq over him at nothing. Dude played 80% of his career with bad teams and HE made them contenders.

[@Alijahboi]

Prime hakeem vs young shaq

[@ace3589]

He cooked a teenage shaq, relax lol.

[@konorkaotic9657]

If Shaq beat on a 20year old Hakeem in his prime y’all would give him ZERO props, and he wouldn’t deserve them

[@Kevin-fj3ff]

​@@ace3589who was putting up better numbers than "old" shaq

[@Kevin-fj3ff]

​@@konorkaotic9657Hakeem was not in his prime lol

[@davidbg1696]

Bill Russel: "Hold my 11 rings, at least try"

[@tobysrimani1047]

Hakeem schooled Shaq! Lol

[@raystone8110]

Fair list but I would put Olajuwon at 3 and Shaq at 4.

[@madasseverything1106]

How many rings and finals mvp does Olajuwon have ?

[@FluGotGame]

@@madasseverything1106 2 including sweeping shaq in one of them 😊

[@FluGotGame]

⁠@@madasseverything1106u give Hakeem a young penny he winning 4 easily 😂Hakeem best help was older star at the end stage of their career …u give Hakeem Kobe ..he not doing 1 3 peat I see at least 5 in a row easily Hakeem would easily dominate the game with limited touches while being the best defensive player on the team

[@madasseverything1106]

@@FluGotGame 😂

[@Tuuufff]

😂😂😂hell naw

[@lildorsey55]

Yea shaq spitting facts i totally agree he was the most dominant at a time when nba was still hard fouling no techs n all that other soft bs!!

[@universalplayz7496]

Um shaq also got away with thousands of offensive fouls.. If you actually seen 2 clips of offensive fouls called on wilt And the no calls for shaq barreling through someone You can clearly see who truly was more dominate And who was just favored by the league

[@Kendrick_had_a_dream]

The offensive fouls don't matter that much because if they called every single foul that happened to Shaq the game would last an extra hour ​@@universalplayz7496

[@slippanda6801]

Oldhead alert

[@RedBloodedMale777]

@@universalplayz749665 year old spotted 🫵

[@FistfulOfGabagool]

lmao but that style of play is more advantageous to shaq than anyone else.. being the biggest strongest dude on the court of course you're going to thrive in that era. start calling offensive fouls and shaq's game would fall apart.

[@gringobronx7670]

Moses malone was a beast

[@bernardhenderson1146]

Hakeem ate him up

[@thomas_the_cat]

3 or 4 yes... shaq vs hakeem is a tough choice

[@KidDynamite25]

Hakeem > Kareem > Shaq/Wilt

[@xum0007]

@@KidDynamite25 era discrimination for wilt is valid honestly I mean in my opinion skill level was lower in the 80s let alone the fucking 60s

[@coopdawg8478]

Hakeem and Shaq are soo hard to decide who is better than the other

[@bohanxu6125]

Hakeem is not even close to Shaq. Shaq is one of the most underrated great player. People would hang on to any small instance of imperfection from Shaq in order to pay respect to other great centers like Hakeem. If one ignores those narrative factor, and only look at the stats of head-to-head match up between Shaq and Hakeem (and other centers at the time), you would see Shaq dominated all those centers in almost all games by a large margin. It wasn't even close. Even in that infamous magic-rocket playoff series, Shaq was still pretty much had the same stats line as Hakeem... outside of that specific cherrypicked series, Shaq completely dominated Hakeem. Seriously google "shaq hakeem heat to head matchup stats game by game" and see the result yourself.

[@joshwoodburn5249]

@@bohanxu6125Shaq was no where near as good as Hakeem on defense 😂 and Shaq had 0 lateral movement and footwork. He was physically stronger than anybody else but he didn’t dominate both sides like Hakeem did

[@bohanxu6125]

@@joshwoodburn5249 I'm not good at judging defense, so I'm just going to look at some simple stats. Shaq career defensive rating is 101.3, Hakeem is better at 98. but 3 points is not that big of a difference (as big as defensive rating between Hakeem and Tim Duncan). In comparison, Shaq's offensive rating is 113. Hakeem offensive rating is 108... 5 points difference.. and this is considering that Shaq played as a role player later in his career and Shaq peaks much harder to Hakeem. Again, you are comparing a guy whose peak has 52%FG with someone whose peak has 60% FG. The average FG% of NBA at 1995 is ~45%. The difference in efficiency between league average and Hakeem (7%), is about the same as the efficiency difference between Hakeen and Shaq (8%). Shaq and Hakeem are just on completely different level offensively.. while their defensive rating only differ by 3 points... For comparison the difference between Tim Duncan defensive rating and Hakeem is also only 3 points. Just like Hakeem is not that much worse than Duncan defensively. Shaq is not that much worse than Hakeem defensively... but the two are not on the same level offensively.

[@joshwoodburn5249]

@@bohanxu6125 For what Hakeem lacks in size compared to Shaq he makes up with his shooting and ball handling. If you’re not good at judging defense then don’t judge dominance because in basketball defense is definitely a part of it. FG% is not the overall determining factor. Nobody could match up with Shaq physically the same way they couldn’t match up with Hakeem athletically. There’s a reason players like Hakeem and Duncan would give him problems.

[@bohanxu6125]

@@joshwoodburn5249 "FG% is not the overall determining factor." When FG% difference is as ridiculously large as 8%, I think no other factors can overcome this in most cases. By the way, one way to consider both offense and defense together. We can look at their head to head match up. Google search "shaq vs hakeem head to head stats, game by game" and you will see that Shaq stats is just so much better and it's not even close. Even during Hakeem's prime from 1993-97. His stats is a bit worse than shaq... and if you look at the whole 90s, Shaq average 24 and 12 against Hakeem 20 and 9, while Shaq has like 10% FG% higher than Hakeem!!!! It's really not even close. You can say Hakeem was old in the later games. However, when looking at game by game stats, you will see Shaq has been destorying Kakeem in almost every game every since Shaq's second year. "There’s a reason players like Hakeem and Duncan would give him problems." This is just wrong. 90s Shaq is probably the most underrated player of all time. Because Shaq was the most dominant in the early 2000s not 90s, people try to give 90s great centers flowers by downplaying Shaq in the 90s...even though Shaq was still the best center even in the 90s despite being young.

[@magnetsoldiercephas331]

Humble knowing he was unstoppable

[@danny__dimes6606]

Bill Russell to god: “Unleash the floods”

[@michaeldatuin15]

I love that we all can agree as scary as shaq was, there was another level to him that we never got to see

[@DallasG83]

Imagine if Kobe could have motivated Shaq to have his level of dedication.

[@amdave76]

Hakeem schooled him in the finals, swept 4-0. Granted Shaq was young but I would put Hakeem ahead of him.

[@mfa2471]

Intellectual honesty-rare!

[@JWoogie66]

Totally agree with his assessment

[@jakesnacks1149]

Shaq is the most unstoppable

[@coreysmorgan8488]

Fourth behind Olajuon, Moses 5th

[@Hazz1405]

Peak for peak I’m taking Shaq over any big man EVER. Most dominant force in probably all of sports history.

[@backloggame]

Tbh. He should be 1st ballot . 3 finals mvp - 4 rings in a era where dynasty franchises & traditional frontcouurt/centers meant something.

[@ManoharRajanlalala]

If Shaq had Mamba mentality he would have 12 rings

[@PetarChakarov]

Maybe I don't want to go on 3 hours of sleep like a psycho

[@ManoharRajanlalala]

@@PetarChakarov but Kobes

[@shiningstar6659]

Shaquille was a great center but he was not better than Hakeem. Basketball is more than just scoring. Hakeem was a complete Basketball player; offense, defense, speed, strength, skills, endurance and an extremely high Basketball IQ. Hakeem retired in the top ten in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots, steals, and field goal percentage. The Dream is #1 on my list.

[@DreamCarGarage1]

Can't deny that he's easily the most modest!

[@GlitchedPerception]

Shaq is definitely #3, he is so based.

[@sphrt2742]

Rare to hear Shaq being humble with the most dominant centers lol.

[@AK-74K]

Not really, he does have a lot of respect for the greats at Center, always had

[@eagle1ra79]

Shaq always put Kareem and Wilt before himself

[@marcofantesini5058]

Wilt career lasted 13 years and he still scored more than shaq

[@thomasa8814]

More rebounds by far too!

[@mintruth]

Shaq IS without QUESTION #3!!!

[@dkurt2725]

Hakeem for me is either 1 or 2 because he changed game for everyone for centers guards his post game is what we loved about kobe jordan for mobile centersetc

[@Anthony-nd6vk]

I like how Shaq just invented a new category of “most dominant” to name himself #1 as if that’s an actual measure of anything.

[@ry_an.]

But he actually was the most dominant

[@jamaalhorton2343]

And he never lead the league in rebounding, blocks, and has 1 MVP 2 scoring title! Wow that’s domination!!!

[@ArcticGrumpy]

Considering they had to change the rules of the NBA to handle Shaq, I would say that’s quite accurate.

[@universalplayz7496]

@@ArcticGrumpythe nba had to change rules multiple times for wilt… Actually called offensive fouls instead of letting wilt do what Shaq did which was just ramming into players (Wilt probably would prob have 50k points if he actually allowed to do what shaq was doing in 2000-2001)

[@Kendrick_had_a_dream]

​@@universalplayz7496man get off that man's nuts

[@kennetzel6101]

Shaq was dominant because he was allowed to back the defender down into the basket. In the real world we call that an offensive foul, but not in the NBA. He was a 7 foot athlete with minimal basketball skills.

[@realdamu6175]

The Dream had Shaq looking like he was on skates or ice😂😂😂

[@Padilla4042]

I have Hakeem ahead of shaq bc of the team talent Hakeem had to work with. Haveing Kobe on your squad definitely helps. And Kobe got a ring after Shaq left.

[@yshah7]

Olajuwon > Shaq if we being honest. He dominated on both sides of the court.. had great midrange game.. good free throw shooter. probably best low post moves of all time. man didnt have a weakness. and he won 2 rings to shaqs 3 but didnt have a kobe bryant level talent with him.

[@williamswilliams8164]

If they hadn’t changed the league to handle Shaq His numbers world be silly He was attacked every play with no call He played a way different game than those before him He doesn’t get the respect he deserves

[@jamaalhorton2343]

Stop it!! Shaq had an overall average career!!

[@universalplayz7496]

The only reason shaq has 2/3 his career points (being generous more like 1/2) is due to thousands of uncalled offensive fouls it’s absolutely pathetic the no calls

[@zdiii3795]

What? ​@@jamaalhorton2343

[@MrTonsofun1]

​@@jamaalhorton2343you're out of your fucking mind. That is an absolutely ludicrous statement. There is no question he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen and maybe ever will see.

[@MrTonsofun1]

​@@universalplayz7496you forget about all the calls that weren't made when he was fouled. You know almost every damn time in the pain. GTFO!

[@madmatt1964ify]

Shaq had no rebounding titles, no scoring titles. He was the biggest center in NBA history. He was the most dominating center in NBA history!

[@anthonystroman8407]

This isn't criticism this is fact.

[@dallas_4194]

Bill Russell must have existed in an alternate universe then

[@tylerlaforte9825]

I think as shaq ages he reflect on how his dad raised him a lot more now. Especially since he passed away. Just be a Kind humble man and help when you can!!

[@Void7.4.14]

Except he's still petty, egotistical and dishonest 😂

[@tylerlaforte9825]

@@Void7.4.14 petty sure but that’s most people lol

[@kennethlong534]

Conditioning and made free throws he's #1

[@jmmsait]

Head to head, Kareem and Hakeem are the only dudes that would give Shaq trouble. No one else, ever.

[@aaronmock6157]

Shaq is crazy, Dream is arguably the greatest player ever, period, not just centers. Retired in the top 10 of steals, rebounds, assists, points and blocks. Won two rings with no HoF'ers in their prime running with him Mvp, Fmvp and Dpoy all in the same season. Gtfoh Shaq.

[@shayan4040]

You can have Kareem. I’m taking Shaq all day.

[@jackshabazz]

Facts

[@mikep3455]

Exactly!!

[@richardpadilla2610]

Yup

[@lynnerose7891]

Kareem put up Shaq’s prime numbers for ten years. THEN he won five more rings. Kareem was the best player in BASKETBALL HISTORY, not just the best center in NBA history.

[@richardpadilla2610]

@lynnerose7891 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's always funny to me when ppl believe Kareem would stand ANY chance against 2000 Shaq. 225lbs vs 325lbs 🤣🤣🤣 BBQ🐔

[@dettrickmosley4330]

Hakeem made him eat the basket ball

[@leolopez5435]

Shaq was pure dominance, watching how humble he's become makes him #1

[@noahleach7690]

Ice cold iq take

[@RicoSupreme_88]

We gonna forget Bill Russell 🤔 Shaq #4

[@Jakob-W]

I’d take Hakeem over shaq any day. He has Babied Shaq on multiple occasions

[@rickbateman2401]

The problem with Wilt is we don’t really know how good he was because he didn’t play against anyone.

[@shadowren2928]

Phil Russell left the chat

[@basketballlife44]

Wilt scored 100 in a game and averaged 50 in a season and had six 70 point games. Shaq is a legendary hofer but wilt is the most dominant center of all time

[@bigkaris912]

Against plumbers

[@basketballlife44]

@@bigkaris912 statistically his is not only the most dominant center ever he's the most dominant player ever. He played against the best his Era had to offer. Without him playing against "plumbers" players wouldn't be as skilled as they are now. Without wilt there is no shaq

[@joshualalrinngheta1575]

​@@basketballlife44 Watch shaq game 1 2000 nba finals (wilt never doing that on the biggest stage where all eyes are on him)

[@joshualalrinngheta1575]

​@@basketballlife44 from your argument, wilt was the most dominant against the players of his era(plumbers) and shaq was the most dominant against actual NBA players?

[@joshualalrinngheta1575]

​@@basketballlife44and wilt even scored 4 points one game in the finals against tge celtics🤣🤣 dominance while shaq averaged 38 in 2000 finals that my friend is dominance

[@Cmelo7100]

I love that shaq is humble enough to actually give it thought and think “hmm maybe he has a point” that shows true maturity from where he used to be about his thinking in the game

[@usmc1992usmc]

I can’t argue with his assessment

[@sonomoha3832]

Olajuwon's lateral movement is laughing out loud in the comments 😂

[@Enycbx]

Bill Russell is ahead of Shaq too.

[@percywhite846]

Most players who were dominant in the league will always put themselves at 1, I respect Shaq for paying his respects to the legends that came before him and knowing his place amongst those legends as well.

[@jesush.christ69]

Shaw is awesome man.

[@oldarn590]

Hakeem was my dude growing up, but Shaq was a force of nature...no less than 3, but I would personally put him at #1

[@verynice7367]

Imo Jokic has passed Moses up and is sitting at the 5-6 spot rn

[@bryantkapono420]

Hakeem is so far ahead of him

[@blue-phoenix115]

That’s your “opinion”

[@Hay_den2005]

Hakeem was in his mid 30’s dominating Orlando shaq

[@Juxce843]

So far!

[@TheHTownDog]

Rockets fan here since the late 80s my unbiased opinion I think Hakeem is the most talented center of all time but in terms of legacy I’d have to put shaq over hakeem imo it should go 1. Kareem 2. Bill russell 3. Shaq 4. Wilt 5. Hakeem

[@duskopopov77]

Olajuwon DOMINATED at both ends of the floor, no other center did that except for wilt, and personally I think the dream would've eaten his lunch!

[@ericvague19]

Kareem, Russel, Shaq

[@Platipus23]

I think he’s being modest, he’s the best.