I noticed on a lot of these you took the perspective of "if I find the ring early and put all my upgrades into it" which I think leads to a completely different set of rankings than you'd get if you were thinking, say, "I have already spent most of my upgrades, which ring would I most want to get from the imp?" or "I'm playing with forbidden runes so I can't really afford to drop a lot of upgrades into a ring, which early ring would help me the most knowing I would never drop more than 1-2 scrolls into it?" I think all of the rings you ranked lower tier (strength, tenacity, evasion, elements) actually move up a lot in value. For example, finding a ring of strength on floor 1, especially if it's like +1 or +2, is kind of a huge deal because you can equip stuff so much earlier that you get a snowballing advantage for the rest of the run. On the other hand, ring of wealth drops off big-time at higher challenges. Even at 6 challenges it's pretty hard to justify dumping all your scrolls into it. However it is always great if you have an available ring slot and you don't put any scrolls into it since it just helps you without costing anything!
@victorsantiago8953Күн бұрын
Looking back, I agee on RoM being slept on, but I think RoW is still top tier due to how cracked the drops are in the last couple floors. Even from the imp, an upgraded RoW can net you extra food, scrolls, pots, gold, and/or bees. Plus, drops are gauranteed every couple of kills! IMO, the only ring that's universally better than Wealth is Haste
@chongli297Күн бұрын
@@victorsantiago8953 I think RoW is nice to have if you get some extra drops from it after getting it from the imp but its value is wayyyyy down at that point. Consumables are most valuable in the early game because they can make the difference between victory and defeat in a key fight (such as Tengu). Later on, when you finish the imp quest, you already have a ton of consumables in reserve so the marginal benefit of a RoW is much lower. If I could have any +3 ring from the imp (and haste wasn't an option), I think might and force would be the only ones that would lose to wealth in that tier-list. I'd take any of evasion, tenacity, elements, furor, and even accuracy over wealth at that stage. Sharpshooting, energy, and arcana are all top-tier and above wealth for me. The simple fact is that, apart from the early game (where luck can be brutal), the game already gives you enough consumables to win pretty much every time. Farming with the RoW is a "win more" strategy that doesn't improve win rates at higher challenge levels (I believe Evan has evidence to show this). Of course having the ring is a lot better than an empty ring slot but that doesn't make it a top tier ring, for me
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
That's a really good point, I hadn't thought about it like that! I am bias towards their potential to win a run on their own.
@chongli2978 сағат бұрын
@@runningfromcake Yes to be fair is not a "wrong" way to look at it, it's generally the most common way to look at it. My perspective, where I'm looking at how an item fits into an overall winning strategy, is a lot more subtle and hard to communicate!
@gabrielvergara1329Күн бұрын
i would put a ring of might higher, the extra health is really nice and with a couple of upgrades it let's you use next stage equipment, wich to me it usually feels like invulnerability, plus the extra strength turns into extra damage as well, and after it outlives it's usefullness, i apply that one scroll of transmutation i have been saving and it turns into, acording to your tier list, almost always a better ring lol, i do see the irony of moving it up based on that though, and actually, as i write, i kinda agree more and more with your placement for the ring, it seems to be very situational, i am always happy to find it early though. Thanks for your video
@kdaviperКүн бұрын
Yeah I would put it s tier for early game. I wouldn't upgrade it but early on having that extra strength feels very nice
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
So far the overall consensus is might higher, just like the corruption wand lol.
@kdaviper23 сағат бұрын
@runningfromcake I guess from the perspective of "is this the ring I dump my upgraded into?" you are spot on.
@normalstranger6482Күн бұрын
The cake is back!!!!!! Been waiting for you
@runningfromcakeКүн бұрын
Thanks for sticking around
@TDT-uh2xxКүн бұрын
I'm very happy too. It's great to have someone who talks about my favourite game.@@runningfromcake
@victorsantiago8953Күн бұрын
As someone who mains Duelist, I'd put Ring of Force in A+ tier due to Brawler's Stance. Other than that, nice tier list!
@runningfromcakeКүн бұрын
oh yeah brawlers stance! good point.
@aloe796Күн бұрын
I got into the game and started watching your tutorials and gameplays, I’m happy to see you’re still uploading
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
Glad to hear you're enjoying the content!
@averylaggyboi1557Күн бұрын
Im glad to see the new vid!
@Czarro672Күн бұрын
Tenacity is genuinely the most useless ring in the game IMO. It gives you worse protection than you would get from just upgrading your armour, plus it takes up a slot that you could be using for a way better ring or artifact. Whenever I get a Tenacity ring, I dump my next Transmutation scroll into it IMMEDIATELY.
@runningfromcakeКүн бұрын
lol yeah
@kasloth994Күн бұрын
I think Tenacity can be useful, but only on a Berserker run. Having something that will let you have low health to maintain the rage well while prottecting you from dying can be pretty nice. However you typically want to go Berserker if game throws at you pre-Tengu Plate or Greatshield so use for this ring feels VERY niche
@pyrojoke01Күн бұрын
Hey tho i agree it definitely is not good ring it doesn't deserve all this slander lol It is cool with berserker or for upgrading chalice
@kdaviperКүн бұрын
@@kasloth994I can also see a use case for a dualist run if one of your weapons is a great axe
@kasloth994Күн бұрын
@@kdaviper Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. Still, this is a very specific situation, Just like with Berserker, if not more.
@normalstranger6482Күн бұрын
Legit tierlist RAT PUNCHERS PUNCH ON !!!🗣️🗣️🗣️
@vavadadeur150Күн бұрын
Le gateau monstrueux
@nightslash5295Күн бұрын
Ring of wealth is just insane man
@GoteryupКүн бұрын
Most of your s and s+ ranks are good, I would even put sharpie in s+ as well, but having might be in d tier is bad, might allows you to have a free early game which as you said in the video means more rescources late game, being able to have plate armor in sewers in some cases is just incredibly powerful, and while the downside for it being cursed is incredibly bad, same goes for most other rings, especially haste, furror, and wealth, also having elements and accuracy that high is just wrong, not to be rude or anything but the effects of them is just negligible as they scaling just sucks and there base value is even worse, and while elements does give slight magic resistance it's significantly better to just avoid magic damage, and if cursed you get significantly penalized as almost everything is worse, shock traps paralyze you for longer and do more damage, you can't walk out of hidden frost traps and also get frozen for longer, fire deals significantly more damage, almost everything but normal melee hits are significantly worse, and melee is the easiest to avoid, also you are sleeping if furrors strength, it is easily an s tier ring as the damage increase from faster attacks is incredibly Strong, also, by keeping an eye on the turn wheel you can tell when you would get a attack without using up your turn, and you can use this in combination with frerunner or haste to "dance" around enemies and only hit them when you wouldn't finish a turn allowing you to kite in the same way a reach melee weapon would,and that's also not even touching gladiator, which can very easily melt enemies by using a fast weapon alone, but with furror you can easily get 4+ combo in a single turn and then clobber and just kill enemies without taking any damage Also if this helps the common consensus from the pixel dungeon discord server for the worst rings is tenacity by far worst, evasion second worst, accuracy third, then elements Fourth. And this is generally backed up by the 2 commonly considered best known players in the world being supernewb and aimfire And lastly for frame of reference, I am a player who has 7 separate 9 chall wins and only one of them used a ring of haste to cheese enemies
@runningfromcakeКүн бұрын
that's a good point.
@MichaelPlantКүн бұрын
Love the new episode dude
@runningfromcakeКүн бұрын
thanks
@purplepotatoes92556 сағат бұрын
Ooh the arcana ring has me wondering. I have a +2 thorns scale armor, and a +2 plate armor, with an arcana ring. Do you think its worth going with the scle armor despite plate being better base stats? Im assuming yeah, just wanna double check tho
@purplepotatoes92556 сағат бұрын
Plate armor has switfness btw
@karmacop2176 сағат бұрын
When you stack strength buffs the game wants to kill you lol I've noticed. Two rings of might and either using warriors strength skill or using a scroll of transmutation to get the strongman with a different character
@floshnigtКүн бұрын
New video i have been so desperate watching a new video of yours
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
Sorry for the delay. Another pixel tower coming up soon
@WanavarbelКүн бұрын
3:41 Link pls. I tried some search but cannot find this
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
Here ya go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGW2hZ93Ypx7h6M
@pyrojoke01Күн бұрын
I mostly agree with tier list But i think ring of might has more utility and synergies and should be at least near the ring of force This ring is pretty goid with freerunner and low tiers armor, it grants you a lot of evasion as well as HP and raw damage Monk's abilities also scale with strength And don't forget about might + force synergy which is broken
@victorsantiago8953Күн бұрын
I thought Monk's abilities were scaled with hero level? Other than Brawler's stance, the only other synergies RoM possesses w/ Monk are its healing talents
@pyrojoke0123 сағат бұрын
@@victorsantiago8953 u just should try it with dragon kick, beats the shit out of literally every mob in the game
@Huh-rv7oeКүн бұрын
Ring of might would be in S+ cause it makes a clutch from early to late game wearing higher tiered equipment and weapons + extra hp for the current floors
@victorsantiago8953Күн бұрын
Looking back, I agree that RoM is slept on! Plus, it syneregises w/ RoF and percentage based healing talents (e.g. Monk's Meditate)
@Pasade007Күн бұрын
Кольцо точности в самый низ, настолько бесполезной фигни надо еще поискать( у меня было кольцо богаства, и с помощью свитка превратил в кольцо меткости, кольцо точности +15 промахивается каждую 5-6 атаку). Кольцо уворота надо в А тир ставить, возможность увернуться от всего это мощно, ты практически бессмертный, блогадаря ней Кольцо урона это мощно, Ведь кольцо урона имеет самый больной урон за 1 ход(не считая балансировки, проклятия и зачоравоние)(я бы поставил на А), но кольцо скорости атаки лучше, как так чаще кастуешь заклинание и гладиатору с магом лучше. Кольцо защиты полезна, когда читаешь, то кажется имба, но это сильное кольцо, только в испытании, где у тебя нет брони, так что заслуженное место получил он
@victorsantiago8953Күн бұрын
Unfortunately, the Ring of Furor doesn't apply to wands; only weapons and throwables.
@vavadadeur150Күн бұрын
I know it's off topic but if you do have a explosives curse on a crossbow and you shoot darn with it the explosion will go to the projectiles not you i saw that on my run with Warden its like a 2 enchantement😂
@vavadadeur150Күн бұрын
I dont speak english that why its the message is weirb
@runningfromcake23 сағат бұрын
I have never tried that. It sounds cool though!
@vavadadeur15016 сағат бұрын
@@runningfromcake yes i was watching you video on the huntress with the ring of wealth +10 and saw you remove it and i remeber that its was fun
@matthewn4988Күн бұрын
I would personally rate wealth and arcana lower as they are more situational rings, other than that I would agree
@pyrojoke01Күн бұрын
Wealth is situational but arcana is always at least decent in late game
@matthewn4988Күн бұрын
@@pyrojoke01 I would still prefer energy or swiftness late game over arcana but arcana is one of the best to get late game, as it is only good late game (scales with ring and weapon upgrades)
@explodingpineapple6459Күн бұрын
Im sorry but evasion below tenacity doesn't make mathematical sense. you have to be missing at least 72.5% of your health for a ring of tenacity to have the same average damage reduction as a ring of evasion, and that holds true no matter what level they are at. These two need to be swapped here. other than that its a decent tier list