Shazam Shows Superman He’s A Kid

Superman/Shazam: First Thunder Issue 4

[@richardlegrand4697]

Superman tells bruce about this. Bruce: 🤔So this boy is crowbar proof?

[@Nolan86745]

💀 bro

[@AccelOcelot]

razam: the boy wonder

[@SmashPortal]

And an orphan?

[@fluffyplatypuscontent2554]

Billy batson robin would just be the sidekick from “guardians of justice” that acid trip of a series on netflix

[@Exis247]

Batman probably already knew, and didn't say anything because it wasn't his business.

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Supermans weakness: Magic Also Superman: "Know what? Fvck you." *Manifests in front of the wizard*

[@TonyTylerDraws]

Exactly. Big blue was PISSED.

[@abdalla33moha58]

He is not weak to magic he is not immune to it like us humans we have no protection to magic

[@lightningjadejavier]

​@@abdalla33moha58so a weakness, for a superhero weaknesses means things that can stop a superhero right? Well guess what most of their weaknesses can stop us normal weak humans if we lived in their world. Kryptonite can just stabby stabby us, magic can destroy us, fire can burn us.

[@abdalla33moha58]

@@lightningjadejavier something like that

[@citrosthoughts7]

@@lightningjadejavier bro agreed with extra steps

[@cane6074]

It would be pretty awesome if Lois and Clark took billy under their wing, not just because he's a superhero but because he's a kid in need of a healthy environment, mean the allowed to stay at their house often and provide things for him, growing up with Jordan and Jonathan would be a very great thing for him through their shared experiences as well as open up a lot of potentially great storylines.

[@osirisjohnson5165]

Ha Louis and clark

[@scottroxford5715]

That.... is a really good point and kind of an ironic one if you think about: Shazam, once upon a time out sold Superman. I like that idea God damnit.

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

Ngl, Clark becoming Billy’s adoptive dad would be pretty nice.

[@firehawkgaming4123]

depends on what comic. In most billy's uncle is trying his best for him. even tho he can't be there for him most of the time.

[@God-vl8qo]

Bros got his hands full with those offshoot kryptonian kids and Jon's Angsty gay ahh he doesn't need any more kids😭😭😭

[@edfreak9001]

I have to say, I kind of love the idea of Superman going to *The Wizard Shazam* of all people. He's just one of those figures I mentally file away as "pure backstory not really part of it" so it feels kinda like Superman breaking the script or... something. It's hard to explain, but it's fun. Also I just like Superman caring so much. He's a sweet guy, he cares a lot, and too many intepretations don't give that enough weight.

[@Hektols]

Agree, with this superhero deconstruction trend people tend to forget that Superman is the ultimate good guy.

[@jorgeacosta6698]

​@@Hektols Boy scout supes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whatever the heck most writers have been doing with him the last years

[@theonetruefusion8533]

average insightful comment from somebody with a lewd profile picture

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

Especially since technically the wizard could "deal" with superman. Superman weak to magic.. in fact has zero resistances to magic. sure he can heal fast from the damage but he can be magically imprisoned. and even as fast as superman is... if the wizard snaps his fingers and dumps superman at the edge of the universe... at the leading edge of time and space... it would take superman.... millennia to get home.

[@fangorn23]

It does feel a bit like superman knocking in the door of the comic writer and demanding to know why he's writing such awful things happening to the poor kid.

[@limerency5834]

god superman looks properly pissed in that scene where he says "who did this to you?" like that cold, white hot anger

[@akramnasralla750]

bro was asking for names so he knows who he should tear limb from limb

[@SaulFavela-ld8kt]

@@akramnasralla750calm down buddy, Superman is a cornball

[@allforone3427]

Kinda funny that he's got a problem with the Wizard doing this to Billy because he's a kid, but his Best Bat Friend Forever collects orphans like Pokemon Cards and he doesn't Bat an eye. Guys you all make great points on How To Train Your Robin but Superman's issue in this Comic specifically is that a child shouldn't be doing this period, not that he's untrained or unsupervised. Hell he even says so on Panel. In other instalments it's different but in this one specifically, this Superman has a problem with Child Heroes being a thing, not just irresponsible Child Heroes being a thing. It's just how they wrote him for this issue. But usually he'd agree with y'all points, and challenge Bats to a Pokemon Battle with Kara, Conner, and Jon. Maybe they'll use the move "Dead Parents" I hear it's Super Effective against Gotham types.

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

Robins are properly trained and Bruce ain't reckless he doesn't even send them on missions til they are ready both mentally and physically, more of all they are not bound by responsibility like Billy Batson. Now if you say Jason's death here then that will explain you never read any comics because Jason Todd's death was voted by the fans themselves there were 2 options either Batman saves him or he dies at the hands of Joker, the fans chose DEATH

[@allforone3427]

@@Faster_than_light_yo "Bruce doesn't even send them on missions till they're ready" You can be 100% ready and still be shot in the head.

[@ironluigi6159]

​@@allforone3427 Still better than going in without it, and also he's there most of the time when they're starting out

[@ridley7498]

Because Bruce actually looks after the kids he takes in. He makes them his legal wards, lets them stay in his house, allows them to attend school and he's around to guide them. Alfred is also there to act as support. The Wizard bestowed Billy with his powers and then left him to his own devices. A child shouldn't be given that much power without some form of training or guidance, especially when said child is an orphan who's living on the streets to survive. Billy was also acting as a hero by himself until the rest of Marvel Family got their powers later on.

[@allforone3427]

@@ridley7498 I feel like that's changing the problem from "He's just a kid" to "He's untrained" like Superman's problem isn't that he's inexperienced, his problem with it is that he's like 10 and shouldn't be doing this period. Even if the wizard gave Billy all the training in the world I don't think he'd Magically be fine with it if this happened again. His whole point is that this shouldn't be his problem, not that he's not ready for it.

[@ThisDudeMoe]

Supes really said, "Take me to your Principal right now."

[@thechatteringclown]

to quote the old meme: kids, don't be like billy. if a man you've never seen before in your life visits your home (especially when it is in a bad neighborhood), tells you straight up he's not with social services, and starts undressing, run! in 99.9% of cases it unfortunately isn't superman revealing his iconic symbol to show you he's there to try and help you through your trauma. quiet the opposite, actually.

[@esra3784]

To be fair, he can literally call upon the powers of the gods if he was in danger

[@CWinteruu]

in the og comics, billy just straight up follows this stranger to the train station 😭 bro is too trusting

[@adarshsaseendran2199]

Clark tells this to Bruce. Bruce : Huh, A superpowered Robin, I'll take him.

[@mugenokami2201]

Clark: I got dibs

[@Adam-mv4fw]

Clark: i can't believe that wizard would give THAT much power and responsibility to an orphaned child! When i was a kid, it was a nightmare dealing my powers and i had both my parents to guide and support me, can't imagine how tough it is for him😔 anyway thanks for listening bruce, got any ideas to help the kid? Bruce: ....... so this ones invincible right?

[@screenmonkey]

One of the gifts given to Captain Marvel was the Wisdom of Soloman. God I hate that they renamed the character.

[@DS-wl5pk]

Superman being a dad to billy like this is an arc I didn’t know I wanted

[@GrapeCheckerBoard]

The comic this clip comes from is called Superman/Captain Marvel: First Thunder. The comic shows a lot more of Superman’s confrontation with Shazam than what this clip covered.

[@marzero116]

Calm Angry is always scarier than loud angry.

[@mrabadon3657]

Why superman faces looks so funny, they looks like they are straight from memes

[@DoctorMysterio15]

It's almost like every single face was drawn by different people and none of them agreed in how he should look. But by all means, that doesn't diminish the story.

[@adarshsaseendran2199]

It looks like they used real references for faces like the old animated movies.

[@justseffstuff3308]

@@adarshsaseendran2199Ohhh, that's actually really interesting

[@TheLoneLoony]

Bruce: So Shazam is really a kid named "Bat-son?" Clark: Don't you have enough Robins?

[@Ezekiel_Kleyer]

Not only did Clark imediatly stoped with the scolding. He went to the wizard and was ready to beat him up. That's just how our Clark is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@starhawke380]

He is only a kid for the first few years after getting his powers. Billy still ages.

[@fangorn23]

until the next DC universe reboot.

[@starhawke380]

@@fangorn23 Thats true, he does keep getting reset to childhood...

[@chrishubbard64]

Yeah but its still crazy. Because its not even just powers, his empowerment literally changes him mentally and emotionally by granting him wisdom that his kid brain struggles to process at times. It must be like constantly having an adult whispering in your ear telling you what is and is not a good idea. And despite HAVING that wisdom, he is still a freaking KID. With all sorts of emotional and mental issues that being a foster kid at that age can bring. So no, he doesnt always listen to that voice. And it probably means he feels 10x worse when he screws up because he had the right answer being in his head the whole time and chose something else because his teenage mind couldnt rationalize the right choice in the heat of the moment. I can kinda relate. I have adhd and when I was a kid, i was on meds to help control it. While on the meds i could feel myself losing control when something was going wrong and I was about to snap. I had that voice telling me to chill out and take a breath or do something different and at times it was SO HARD to listen and I often felt like garbage afterwards when i didnt and got into way more trouble than I would have if I had listened to that inner voice. Honestly, when done properly, the entire idea of shazaam as billy batson is so interesting and so much can be done with it that he is a fascinating character.

[@ronwit]

Billy has been around since the 1940s. Except in Kingdom Come, he has never aged. The comics dance around this a lot, but he has never aged.

[@thismandoesntexist7814]

-WIZARD! •How tf did you get here? -The name is Superman, how do you think I got here? •That's a good point.

[@TheSharungo]

"There's a starmaaaaaan living in the skyyy...."

[@nepnep1149]

Shocked nah bro was pissed

[@blockhead134]

Shazam being Supermans apprentice makes so much sense in so many ways

[@Some_Idiot_on_the_Internet]

"How can you give these powers to a child!?" Buddy, you've been able to bench press oil tankers since you were 10.

[@desreploid3353]

Sure, but that wasn't something given to him, it's just the way his body works. Besides, I feel like that's all the more reason for Clark to be upset another child has to have the responsibility of superpowers.

[@jarlairess]

I remember watching an episode in Young Justice where they didn't know his real identity. And then some dark magic users split the world into two dimensions, one with adults and one with children and he was the only one that could go between both. Of course Batman knew and apparently Wonder Woman was really unhappy about it after they brought his membership into the Justice League into question

[@HeartlessDragon25]

I feel like this is more impactful then anything Batman has done. Superman: Why would you give a kid the power of a god? Hes just a kid? Batman: Here is how to not nearly die by getting shot at and drive a dangerous vehicle.

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

then you don't understand the narrative Batman has shown, Bruce and all of his disciples were people who were forced to be mature at a very young age, all of them share the same trauma. Bruce knowing all that did a very good job at mentoring them, there was an alternate storyline that showed what would happen if they never met Batman, at the end all of them ended up having a very fuc..ked up life without him and Batman also grew more broodier without them. My comment just barely scratches the surface of a very interesting and well written story of Batman, so if u wanna look into it just read the comics

[@HeartlessDragon25]

@@Faster_than_light_yo the comment below this also explains more than that. He canbe 100% certain they're ready to do something but joket literally states, it just takes one bad day to ruin it all. Jason todd best example

[@MonochromaticPrism]

There is a deep irony is Superman asking that considering the entire premise of his character.

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

@@HeartlessDragon25 Did you even know Jason Todd's death happened because of the fans and not because of Batman. DC did a poll back in 1988 on if they want to let him live or die? the fans chose to kill Jason Todd.. and it became an official canon storyline

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

@@MonochromaticPrism What do you mean by Deep Irony? Superman is THE one and only person who would stand up against something like this because he knows being invulnerable means nothing when you have the heart and mind of an everyday human who cares for others more than he does for himself more of all he was angry because a kid shouldn't have the responsibility to save the world, he should have life of a teenager, he should worry about school tests not how to make the world a better place

[@Luxord5294]

Superman asking "who did this to you?" is the purest distillation of the concept of Tranquil Fury, he is so angry that he's calm. Which is terrifying given what Supes can do when pushed, and the Wizard Shazam having the stones to try and justify his robbing a kid of his childhood... he's truly lucky Superman does NOT think he is a god and should pass down judgment like one. Otherwise, magic or no, Wizard Shazam would quickly understand terms like "relativistic speed" and "explosive decompression". Yeah Superman isn't immune to magic; but that means little when you see lightspeed as a casual exercise pace, and regularly tango with gods of the New and Grecian variety.

[@bethanymiddleton5758]

Superman can't go at lightspeed. The Flash is faster than Superman.

[@Luxord5294]

@@bethanymiddleton5758 I'm fairly certain Superman has exceeded lightspeed in the past. Which means he can do it whenever, but just doesn't. Could be wrong, but I do acknowledge Flash is faster (guy was faster than instant teleportation)

[@Karmanara]

Imagine this was the Injustice timeline and this is originally how Supes met Billy 💀

[@Crow_Rising]

Clark and the Wizard's final exchanges here give off the impression like his opinion of the old man changed a bit. Not total forgiveness, but a certain degree of understanding and just a little bit of common ground they can agree on.

[@Varron22]

I like that Superman asks no more questions to Billy as soon as he sees that he's a child other than "Who did this to you?" He knew that Billy wasn't completely responsible for what he did.

[@chrishubbard64]

You cant expect a 12 year old, or however old he is here, to behave like an experienced adult who grew with his powers naturally. Superman knew that and realized what the real source of the problem was.

Superman DOES confront Shazam, the old wizard, AFTER he discovers Captain Marvel is really a young boy.

[@asadpepe4282]

"who did this to you?" goes hard

[@petebock7021]

Whatever happened to Shazam having Solomon's wisdom?

[@Hektols]

Well, the thing is that Solomon's mistakes outnumber his wise decisions.

[@thespidermanoftheottomanempire]

In the words of Aquaman in s1 ep22 of Young Justice: ‘Wisdom does not equate with maturity’

[@dustinvance243]

With the way it works it's basically a glorified google search. It knows everything, but won't tell you if you don't think to ask.

[@javelin1423]

or its one of those "the character is as smart as the writer" but in this case, its wisdom

[@petebock7021]

@@javelin1423 That or the writers don't know or care about the source material.

[@ordinarytoaster8550]

It’s so funny he didn’t know who he was until he unbuttoned his shirt, literally Perry the platypus

[@Tyln93]

Meanwhile Batman is adopting children with trauma in bulk!!!

[@tailsfan10]

Superman: "You can't just have kids try to be heroes!" 😭 Batman: "How would you like to join me in stopping dangerous crimes with psychopaths, young orphan?" 🗿

[@sigilofgremory9671]

Why does superman look so disgusted that shazam's best friend is a kid. Does he think something else is going on?

[@AustynSN]

He knew it was... _weird_.

[@desreploid3353]

How would you react if a guy at least in his mid-twenties told you earnestly his best friend is a child? That does seem a bit odd, doesn't it?

[@tobiasharnisch4155]

One critic for the comic. When clark showing billy he is superman it is weird that he opens his hemd in front of a child in a poor area.... Just removing the glases and a little lift up from the floor would have been better. Update: It is Funny how Angry some people get because I said that while they surely say same things about Anime. Maybe you understand now that what you say about Anime is the Same what I said about your American Superman.

[@PapaIsHome-o3p]

Its more cool if you show the superman "S"

[@antonysoares670]

why the fuck would you feel the need to make this scene so weird by pointing that out? please keep that kind of shit inside of your mind, thanks

[@AuroraBoost]

😂😂😂

[@mobolajiade-aina8643]

This is the nitpickiest nitpick I've ever seen.

[@bigimp3018]

Your just weird dude

[@benjaminrodriquez3688]

Whats the title of the comic book called?

[@Comicsmaxxing]

Superman/Shazam: First Thunder Issue 4

[@CameronKiesser]

Is this a hired narrator or something? Hear this dude every so often talking about a whole range of things, including droughts.

[@chikihando2483]

Ai

[@CameronKiesser]

@@chikihando2483 Are you sure? Got a source. Sounds way too good.

[@willowravencroft]

​@@CameronKiesser voice synthesizers has been around for decades.. the most popular example of them is Vocaloid.. integration of AI has greatly improve it to a point that it's almost natural speech...

[@CameronKiesser]

@@willowravencroft I still doubt that this voice is AI. Sounds too good and I've heard it before ElevenLabs started taking off. But if it is... Another spooky step in not being able to tell.

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

My name is Clark and he will be like who is Clark😂

[@Silias06]

I love the interaction between the Wizard and Superman cause its clear Supes words actually hit deep with the Wizard knowing Shazam needed Superman especially rn for support.

[@Miss_Myth]

Stories like this are why I love Clark so much and why I get so frustrated wirh people who call Superman boring. It's the hardest thing in the world to try to do the right thing, or even to know what that is. To see someone come into a situation that everyone else has just *accepted* - and he stands and questions it, challenges it... it's so captivating, powerful, and inspiring.

[@irtijanuhash2447]

Shazam ❌ Captain Marvel ✅

[@tubularguynine]

So, ya like gladiator movies, Billy?

[@jonathanrestivo7095]

Awww❤❤

[@GoldenKeeper255]

Scrolling through the comments to look for injustice references

[@tined_trout4460]

injustice superman:

[@Meaniepanini305]

I miss heroes who are genuinely good people down to their very core, and aren’t anti heroes or dark and gritty

[@thewatcher8959]

And then in a dark future he lobotomizes him

[@BLAZE_EDTIZ]

Batman : 👁️👄👁️

[@litt120]

One of those moments where supes shows he's the best hero in his universe (DC)

[@ZipplyZane]

I just always thought the original wizard died.

[@preator_vallum6377]

oddly a plotline I never really thought of, Superman mentoring and psuedo fathering Shazam. I mean their powersets are almost identical and it's in Clark's character.

[@SymmbolZS]

Doesnt he have the wisdom of Solomon. .. And the power of the seven greek gods

[@alejoclosa7705]

"Wisdom doesn't equate to maturity" Aquaman, Young Justice

[@cristianiiv6418]

Even solomon himself did many mistakes in his later life Wisdom do not equate to maturity

[@DanielleFreeman-im1yj]

I think Clark should have adopted Billy!

[@JoeyMarx]

I have to say, these panels are particularly interesting when you take into consideration that there is an entirely different comic where superman, knowing that Shazam is a child, takes away shazam's ability to speak and beats him to death.

[@graysnake8585]

Saruman the White

[@ZaruDGamer]

please tell me bruce found this out and helped billy get a better home life

[@Jeezes718]

No

[@kingofsinter8416]

You deserve more subscribers.

[@MrQuest0]

You do realize that he just stole the comic and is not the author?

[@kingofsinter8416]

@@MrQuest0 Why would I think he wrote it? To me it’s very obvious he didn’t.

[@richardzaloudek8208]

Y'all be turning Batman into a child labourer with these comments

[@jack_the_slime]

This only makes the injustice timeline worse

[@mkacproductions1058]

El meme!

[@theskeletons1894]

Shazam shows superman he is a minor

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

OK, but who the fuck is Clark?

[@BeeWaifu]

I thought Shazam was the wizard and Billy Batson is Captain Marvel.

[@Jeezes718]

Yes, and no. ORIGINALLY, Billy was Captain Marvel, but due to Marvel also having a Captain Marvel, and it making sense for the company Marvel to have a Captain Marvel, they eventually stopped calling Billy that and started calling him Shazam, even though the DC Captain Marvel predates Marvel Captain Marvel. So, now there is Shazam and the Wizard Shazam.

[@BeeWaifu]

@@Jeezes718 But the current 'captain' in Marvel was called 'Miss Marvel'

[@Jeezes718]

@@BeeWaifu There have been 6 Captain Marvel's in Marvel over the years.

[@BeeWaifu]

@@Jeezes718 I know of the kree Captain Mahr Vel and Miss Marvel. Thanks to Earth's Mightiest Heroes (the only Avengers cartoon that exists).

[@Jeezes718]

@BeeWaifu Mar-vell was the first. When Monica Rambeau got her powers, the news called her Captain Marvel because of how similar her powers were to Mar-vell, but eventually, she decided to stop using the name as she had no connection to Mar-vell. For a time, Mar-vells son called himself Captain Marvel but then stopped because he felt he was just copying his dad. Then his daughter did the same. Then, a different kree invaded Earth and was persuaded by the Avengers to become the new Captain Marvel. Then, after decades, Carol Danvers took up the name Captain Marvel.

[@TheJoshman01]

Definitly one of the few times we have seen superman pissed off so badly.

[@Hisagixhisagi]

Kinda hypocritical when he himself kills him

[@AustynSN]

Injustice is garbage.

[@JaBBerSmack]

"Who did this to you?" That line puts everything into perspective

[@yomikey0117]

Injustice Good ending be like

[@rafaeltavares6928]

Billy got his powers bestowed upon him because he is worthy

[@michaellemmons4759]

"My *real* name is Clark." Sure it is, Kal...

[@terrytaylor1732]

Even when exposed to the Lasso of Truth, he says his name is Clark Kent. Birth name does not equal real name.