Shazia Ilmi vs. Anand Ranganathan's epic verbal duel

Why are there not enough Christians & Muslims in the BJP ? Watch Shazia Ilmi & Anand Ranganathan's respectful - but epic - verbal duel at The Festival of Bharat [Archives]
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[@factchecker2090]

Anand Ranganthan knows what the issue is, he is deliberately trying to corner Shazia. The point is Muslims cannot live under the POLITICAL DOMINATION OF ANY OTHER COMMUNITY. and this is primarily because of the SUPREMACIST RELIGIOUS ATITUDE OF ISLAM. Look around the world and you have infinite examples

[@AyyoGamer]

Correct 👍...

[@Arpan_Mahapatra_05]

Yeah this is the exact reason why there is problem in every single country where muslims are present...... For 90% of muslims, their loyalty lies with their religion and not with the country they live in ..... That's why complete partition is necessary for Bharat to get free of this ☪️ancer ... Jai Shree Ram 🚩🚩🚩

[@subodhsinha6966]

कहीं कुछ भेजे में गड़बड़ी हो गई है

[@mohannadsayed1657]

Not being supremacist but being on HAQ/Truth and Truth anywhere anytime anyways prevails over falsehood

[@mlg1279]

​@@mohannadsayed1657 The whole world knows that I-slam is another name for Falsehood. 🤡🐷

[@bakuljavadekar6767]

For the first time Anand Ranganathan is bested by someone. It is quite well known that most Muslims rarely vote for BJP. In order to make them vote for BJP it will have to play the same appeasement politics that the others are playing which BJP is unwilling to play. There is nothing fundamentally wrong in not being able to win support of a section of population. The fault does not always lie with the party. At the time of independence didn’t Muslims reject Gandhi and choose Jinnah? It’s wrong to assume that public is always right.

[@SV-wu2my]

I agree on the Gandhi thing. But still Gandhi and Nehru went on appeasing the other side, former lost his life and later ruined India's fabric creating divisional politics. If Nehru not divided India on religion lines, possibly we would have been like Singapore, a multi culture society living peacefully.

[@ShivonYoTu]

You have to look into recent data. BJP already surpassed khanchris party in appeasement politics. Even the Twitter handle of bjp tweeted that Muslims who were 4.5% in Govt. job have increased to 10% under BJP. This is just a tip of an iceberg, there's lot more.

[@mlg1279]

​@@SV-wu2my With 40% of United India mu-slim, the last thing u could expect is "living peacefully"

[@Aninda_Creation]

@@mlg1279 absolutely right.

[@divyadrishtistudio6550]

Anand Ranganathan is wrong here... A seperate country was given to Muslims in 1947. So, the Majority Muslim parliamentarians are in Pakistan...Population exchange should have been carried out at that time... now Akhand Bharat should be considered for calculations of Muslim representation... If Indian Muslims want more representation then they should relocate to Pakistan.

[@ratankaramchandani5807]

Well said absolutely perfect,same thing was said by Sardar Valabh bhai Patel that why they here should be in Pakistan to get better facilities,this was very reason Nawab Nehru was nit in good terms with Sardar Sahib

[@AsterixM580]

This is as the biggest scam India has seen post independence 😭

[@enhaa784]

✋☠️

[@lathaphilip1582]

They are the second largest in the country. So no longer a minority

[@henryviii8808]

So why ended up taking over Kashmir with 75 percent Muslim population and Lakshdweep with 99 percent population post 1947?

[@nokiaamerica]

All converted Hindus by force,by the Moghuls and claiming minority 😂

[@anilz3192]

they are just idiots

[@viralvieralmehta8613]

Point is Muslims don't vote for bjp no matter what since last May be 50 years . Even if bjp fields Muslims candidates it's very very difficult for them to win in Muslim areas . As far has hindu majorierty area bjp will commite harakiri by fielding a Muslim candidate . Bjp has been branded as the political arm of RSS as well as vhp and it is the party which was in fir front of demolishen of babari structure standing on ram janam bhumi and bjp has cornered at least 28 to 32 percent hard core hindu vote against congress cornering entire 14 percent Muslim votes thus bjp will not do anything in the name of empowering Muslims which will shake up its 32 percent hard hindu votes and if it dose then it will get known as most stupid political party in the world and bjp dud try such stupidity in hyderabad by not wearing saffron robe and giving statments like fools which would shake up hindu confidence in bjp . Let's face the facts modj or no modi if you remove hindu image from bjp then bjp will be doomed for good .

[@bestbuilder7833]

Doesn't jamu and kashmir have bjp party?

[@sambit948]

That's how every debate should be. Each one is expressing his/her views and also accepting other's point graciously.

[@ayapan872]

Why owaisi doesn't give opportunity for Hindus Madam 😢😢😢😢

[@jmahalekshmymenon9309]

Shazia Ilmi's logic is clear and incontrovertible.. BJP is a political party of a multicultural nation ... and its aim is clearly to protect and maintain her essential inclusive, multicultural nature from being eroded any further..unlike other fronts and parties whatever their rhetoric... and to balance out/ compensate for the skew based on political and ideological expediency in these other parties' tacit agenda ... by ensuring representation of all interests, including those hitherto unrepresented or under-represented ...

[@adpsiingh4588]

Both were right and achieved what they wanted to convey, convey through.

[@limelight6922]

I live in europe but indian and married ro european we are muslim but since we went to ganpat pooja at my indian friend's house in Europe my wife is attracted toward hindu cylture snd ganpat and she has placed tye moorti in our house which the pooja organiser gifted slowly i m liking ganpati too. As i like the choice of my wife and also when i see at moorti it looks powerful

[@mlg1279]

Is ur wife muslim, too? Btw, Lord Ganesha is the remover of obstacles, and his worship is very auspicious

[@bobpeter1620]

There are always good people, but the problem is whenever someone learns real Islam, which teaches Kifra, Al-Takaiya, Jihaad etc... and these are proper terms which can't be found in dharmic religions particularly and one more thing, these dharmic traditions already are polythestic in nature, so they don't have problem in accepting other gods, it is Christianity and Islam which spreads religions by sword or lies.

[@bmniac]

It is incorrect to load an old clip without giving the date. As an octogenarian I feel that Anand should not try to win arguments in his somewhat overbearing fashion. Shazia has made valid points; we need good grace to accept ; or even reject them.

[@amardatta4471]

I do not think it is correct to blame BJP for lack of Muslim representation in the party. Actually Muslims, as a community, do believe in BJP ideology and that's why they do not join BJP - that's being the case how does one expect BJP to give tickets to Muslim candidates to contest election at Central, state and local level.

[@TheB657]

Over eight centuries lost under brutal Islamic rule and defamation of Sanatana Dharma for over two centuries by the Brits making it a millennia of slavery under ruthless barbaric foreign forces....... yet the one to speak up Strongly, Openly and Unfazed is a "Darwinian Atheist" . Sanatanis..... have some shame on yourselves for not standing together.

[@jisnudeepmandal]

First time I have a different opinion from Anand Ranganathan

[@kushphus]

In which year this conversation happened?

[@vikramsaigal5738]

What about the triptikaran/santushtikaran of muslims?

[@AYUSHMISHRA-zr4rc]

Spot On!

[@amitlingras6469]

Candidates must win also.... What's point giving ticket to candidate who is sure to get defeated...

[@KaunKizka]

Turka is turka .. meaning they are ruled by book, not by logic.. there is no salvage for them .. sad

[@phaniraj5142]

Both complementing each other on the given topic...

[@RKV8527]

Shazia ji should be Delhi minister ❤and gradually Chief Minister ❤❤

[@PrasadKashyap]

BJP should not worry about the religious or caste identity of its candidates. It should focus on winning the most seats and continue to work for the development of all Indians.. no matter what religion or caste.

[@DhirenVyas261]

looking at anand here, its very very old video. I think Anand too must have learn lot more in recent years.

[@UKpowerunleashed]

Havent heard of ilmi in a long while... its been close to 5 years i guesd

[@azadbharat2607]

I agree with Shaziya here. BJP should ask for hindu votes and reach out to the Christian community and other communities and ingage with them ...as soon as the muslim community will understand that they have to qork with the government without any kind of appeasement they will enter the BJP and that time will come soon...like in UP when the muslims of many constituencies understood that other party is not going to win then they voted the muslim candidate to make sure at least we are having a muslim candidate...so same will go with other part too once BJP openly start supporting their hindu voters and actual minority of this country...jai hind, jai bharat 🇮🇳

[@rohanagarwal6848]

I think this is an old debate. Few years back anand was working with newslaundry so think he had that in his mind

[@jaikrishnaanantula6020]

Anand ji for a change I wud say Shazia Ilmi is correct.

[@mohitram6554]

It is refreshing to see a political figure like Shazia Ilmi ma'am, make a humane response to an awful bigoted question without trying to politicize it...

[@allembrace]

In this, this is the first time , that I am differing with Dr. ANAND . Question to ANAND ? when Moslems are against BJP and never support or vote for BJP, why and How will BJP field Moslem candidates ? It will be suicidal. On the part of Moslems , they must be accepting and willing BJP as the part of INDIAN culture, Indian values, ethos and basis of Indian civilization. Then they will opt for BJP.

[@KarunanKannampoyilil]

👍🙏

[@ashalivarma4623]

I love Shazia

[@barathcanam375]

In independent Barath no one is excluded. That is why it us tye greatest democracy 😊

[@nkr7744]

Answer is simple. Muslim don't vote to BJP so BJP don't give ticket to muslim.

[@ksgsharma]

First time seeing Ranga sir stumped, he played a nice cover drive when shazia asked him to google Gujrat candidature 😆

[@sambit948]

That's two logical sound minds debating with each other. You don't need to be winner always in a debate.

[@kaswath]

People forgotten Sri APJ kalam saab

[@kamaleshchakraborty7751]

Mr. Ranganathan , normally you are very reasonable. But the topic of today is very simple.For a muslim BJP candidate the muslims and a part of hindu voters will not vote. The seat is lost for BJP. So you recommend it? First the muslims should rise above hinduhate, and BJP should embrace honest muslims Only then we'll see enough muslim representatives in the BJP

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

Anand has become islamophillic 😂

[@ramacol9343]

Shazia Ilmi is right.👍

[@darshandhawan5923]

Well in the end, shazia ilmi is also a muslim.

[@SnehaSingh-qw2id]

Anand Ranghanathan has lost so much with intermittent fasting wow.

[@Skanoza]

Muslims in ANY country in the world cannot question about 'representation' unless they ACTUALLY represent themselves in government jobs, and government jobs are not just about perks, pensions and security. They are about serving the country in a public service capacity no matter which department you work in or which party you are affiliated to. That's what Shazia ji is trying to say, and she's spot-on as always!

[@Madraswala]

Like in Kashmir?

[@rakeshmohandas9652]

I think clearly Anand is just playing devil's advocate.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He has become islamophillic due to his alliance with JNU 😂

[@crackpot111]

Nothing to see here.. Move along. It's a very old video

[@balak7161]

Anand Ranganathan is out of his depth here....She is 100% right,

[@PrasadKashyap]

Best man for the post right? If KK Mohammed or Shezad was the candidate will the Hindus vote for him? That is the question we have to ask ourselves

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[@kapilvictor]

The point is no Muslim want ticket to fight for BJP.

[@RKV8527]

Muslim community should nominate winnable Muslim candidate who subscribes to BJP,ideology

[@treatseaweed]

muslim will lose. Because muslim has hatred

[@bhalchandratengse7056]

What percentage of members of BJP are from Muslim community. Accordingly the tkt allocation. Moreover winnability factor is very much relevant

[@qsefyjil13579]

Has Anand Ranganathan converted to Islam? Why is he so concerned about muslims but not parsees, Buddhists, jains or other minorities???

[@nikhilhembrom8952]

Have you seen ever ranganathan debates just because he exposes radical Islamists doesn't mean he hates common muslims he already clarified that if you wanna truly watch a hindutva channel go watch Vishal views and Sandeep deo

[@user-zv5li4jt3j]

Lol Muslims vote for BJP alright! But at specific scenarios When they see no matter what they vote for BJP is going to sweep their seat then there is inflow of muslim votes. Else Zero vote for BJP There's a certain hatred towards BJP from majority of muslim voters.

[@jawaharlalbhatia494]

This channel all know, is a prejudiced against BJP. He is evading the main issue to prove his point.

[@parkar8896]

Anand has started playing politics like TMC members.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He is a Prof at JNU. Maybe vested interests 😂

[@prashantcusat06]

Chha gye Ranganathan sir

[@PlusMinus2002]

Shazia is right here. It is happened in past. Anand had another ideology in past I think that. Now he became a right winger.

[@krishnamurtichandrasekhara2187]

A Ranganathan you are talking like a Social Justice Warrior. You want reservations? Communal reservations? Not clear what your point was.

[@sudeeptaghosh]

Yup 2 countries are given to them aur kitna de .. how many Gaza strips are in India have anyone counted ?

[@sujoysengupta1]

Anand: you didn't allow her to say anything when you were saying, then why are you disturbing her when she is saying something ???

[@Abhisheksingh-hr3mo]

Can't believe this is ranganathan

[@channakeshavadya5881]

Anand Ranganathan seems to be very unreasonable, n thoroughly biased against BJP.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He has become islamophillic due to his position in JNU 😂 . And he was interrupting Shazia all the time. Funny, he hated it when others interrupted him on other platforms 😂

[@korakatar7921]

Looks like a very old video. Anand is very chubby here

[@phoenixj1299]

Yes it's an old video

[@vyasakaveendra7510]

Muslims joining BJP is not important but Muslims sincerely joining the mainstream Bharat. Disinterested muslims are free to quit the nation and live where their egos are satisfied. In new Bharat, all people should work for the nation. Jayaho Bharat !!!

[@sajaldatta6991]

Shazia is absolutely right

[@jigsaw2281]

Anand ji ka weight kam hogya h ab heart attack k baad

[@ssrivastava3]

Anand, you are just being silly. Educated folks are aware of the data and just - few examples illustrate the issues. So why belabour it. Shazia says she can answer it, but you have to reel the numbers to show your scientific background.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He has become islamophillic due to his position in JNU 😂 . And he was interrupting Shazia all the time. Funny, he hated it when others interrupted him on other platforms 😂

[@Hi_yayawar]

Muslim apologist in BJP will spoil BJP as well. BJP should have been to implement 3rd June 1947 plan.

[@ravigkr]

And what was the point you were trying to make Ranganathan?? Reeling out statistics serves little purpose, when you do not have the context to go with the stats. You know what they say, Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics - in that order!!

[@janbawaingade303]

Wo bhi kya din the, jab anand ji ke🙏🏻double chin the

[@Abhisheksingh-hr3mo]

I think sudhansu trivedi ji could have given much better answer to anand. First of all there is no restrictions on fighting elections to anybody. So where comes this logic from...

[@vish2553]

AR, you are wrong. Candidate for any position should be based on merit only. Kalam ji and few other Muslims have been the presidents of the nation. Anyhow all these data that you are sprouting is useless. These people should not be even here. In the election that was considered as a referendum in 1946, more than 90-99% of Muslims voted for a separate country for themselves based on their religion. Having got their own country, MORE LAND THAN THE PERCENTAGE SHARE of their population, a huge majority decided to stay back. Hindus lost in both accounts after partition , their land and a huge hostile population that wants to eliminate them. So Anand, keep your sympathy and love for the peaceful to yourself. Or shove it where the sun doesn’t shine 😡

[@ashishshah5667]

Very well reply shajiaji 👍

[@user-em1ll1me8n]

Why are you so beautiful, Shazia? I just listen to your voice and look at your face rather than hearing at what you speak!

[@mahendras3945]

I lost my respect for this person Anand.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He has become islamophillic due to his position in JNU 😂 . And he was interrupting Shazia all the time. Funny, he hated it when others interrupted him on other platforms 😂

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

Dr Ranganatha, oh Dr Ranganatha, as a professor, when you say " Yes you are right, but..." it means you're telling Sazia she is right and wrong . Sazia gave you a beautiful answer. Look at the Gujarat municipal results. It means the muslims are beginning to believe and trust the BJP. It takes time, no? After all the appeasement policies of other national and regional parties, the BJP is making the correct strides. You never liked it when others interrupted you. However, that's exactly what you were doing, in case you didn't realise it. I feel Dr Anand is slowly becoming Islamphilic, what with his career in JNU 😂 😅😅😅

[@ElectricGuitarStyles]

She schooled this bigot . Ranga was left fumbling for words each time Shazia replied.

[@surendradharmahindusgodofg5415]

Rss,BJP , muslim and fear created by khangress not in reality but my advice BJP must take what muslim blame route

[@prasadbmvs]

First time Anand ranganathan i disagree.

[@dharmindesai2719]

Anand is making his way to urban nexals. Shameful Hindu vs nationalist Muslim woman. .... anand how much you made by putting this data out .... Next Raveesh Kumar.

[@user-cr7yf3uk6z]

He has become islamophillic due to his position in JNU 😂 . And he was interrupting Shazia all the time. Funny, he hated it when others interrupted him on other platforms 😂

[@jagdishramanathan2091]

❤❤in my opinion there shold be a exmuslim party .they are sizable number and not jihadis .❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@gowthamanjaiganesh3210]

Why do we even need muslim MPs from BJP. It is not appeasing party.

[@birkhagurung2358]

Its not the problem with BJP, the problem is they dont have much muslim leaders who wana join BJP as most of them are faired from radicalized muslims who may kill him or her. If BJP has more Muslim leaders in BJP then definitely tickets will be given

[@samyakmohanty9850]

Shajiaji ...you are highly attractive to listen to...with all ur erudition it becomes all the more alluring 🤔

[@virajjagdale7756]

Isne hijab kyu nahi pehna

[@jimmatrix7244]

This majority, minority nonsense and religious straining should be ignored. Should look at citizen levek instead of religion. When you submit to people of certain religion, then bigger disaster is about to happen in future.

[@abhayU0704]

Anand doing good natak.....

[@SkanDasz]

Why because there should not be!

[@RameshbhaiBarot-wf2ew]

If BJP appoints muslim candidate senario will be Muslim csndidste will lose respect as well as election in his area BJP will lose hindu votes in that area and image will be shattered.

[@Dod2111]

Why CHUSLIMS CHUSLIMS ALWAYS.. FOCUS ON OBC,SC,ST ..you will get somuch

[@Etskful]

anand ji, just check out ,how much BJP gvn to the minority, is it bloody secular govt,bjp betrayed Hindi nothing less than Congress

[@hindu-secularbydefault7654]

What happened to Anand ji? zakir nalayak ko follow karte karte yeh brainwash ho gaye hai kya? What ‘upliftment’ of muslims? Upliftment should be of poor. In pattharbazo ko koi kahi representation dene ki jarooraf nahi including ilmi tilmi

[@crazzyswadhin2594]

Dono ke dono bjp Wale Hain, bekar me hi apna data waste kiya

[@agarasudhindra1687]

Ranganathan is a narcissist!

[@sahej1766]

none of what she said made any sense. Endless dialogue, no meaning

[@pankajsharma..]

रंगनाथन सर,,,,पहली बार आपको देख कर घटिया फील हो रहा है।।। shame on you 😬😬😬🤮🤮

[@harshabanad]

She should live in Afghanistan or Syria or Iran or Iraq. She is a Muslim how can she come in public without hijab ? Shame on her