She MURDERED her stepfather after discovering his horrific secret...

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Coffeehouse Crime

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@rasberrybelley4954
@rasberrybelley4954 Жыл бұрын
If they prosecuted abusers to the fullest extent of the law like they do the murder of abusers this wouldn't happen.
@forestsandlace5996
@forestsandlace5996 Жыл бұрын
I agree - and given the trauma etc, the line "...from being the victim of a serious crime to the perpetrator of a worse one" doesn't sit right with me. Too often, survivors of abuse are treated like murderers anyway, with the media and the courts always focusing on how a conviction would ruin the abuser's future with nay a thought for the future that the survivor may have.
@eduardomachado3740
@eduardomachado3740 Жыл бұрын
@@forestsandlace5996 agreed
@Skdjefkrkfnfne
@Skdjefkrkfnfne Жыл бұрын
absolutely. he wouldve gotten 1-2 years max, probably less, or nothing. poor girl
@ragingbull888
@ragingbull888 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Murderers get tried like murderers and the murder rates are still obscene.
@doctorajaguar
@doctorajaguar Жыл бұрын
@@ragingbull888 What Raspberry meant is that revenge murder wouldnt happen. If the victims of this type of violation knew the law will go full force over the abusers and knew they could get justice, they probably wouldnt take matters in their own hands.
@Shizukanexen
@Shizukanexen Жыл бұрын
I really honestly can't feel bad for someone that took pictures of his 16 year old step daughter... and to add to that it's gross to ask her those questions in court knowing that he'd been taking pictures of her when she was a child. What a disgusting man.
@Paradigm-change
@Paradigm-change Жыл бұрын
I dont feel one bit bad for him. I think he deserved what he got. What kind of person preys on a child-he never deserved life in the first place.
@Okrainskie_peremoXi
@Okrainskie_peremoXi Жыл бұрын
That's great... Too bad she wouldn't get death penalty ❗
@azazello1784
@azazello1784 Жыл бұрын
He took pictures so what? It's not that big a deal... He didn't moles her.
@infamousNfamous
@infamousNfamous Жыл бұрын
@@azazello1784 someone should put you on a watch list
@jibjones1233
@jibjones1233 Жыл бұрын
Didn't she erase all the pictures. Which was all the proof she would have needed.
@dreaminginjapan
@dreaminginjapan Жыл бұрын
Honestly, even if she handed over the evidence, I don't see much happening to him. The police barely do anything when stalkers are involved.
@ikz8439
@ikz8439 Жыл бұрын
ikr!
@FreyjaJ
@FreyjaJ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. Both before and after my stalker assaulted me, I was the one who had my life turned upside down. And he's still out there, he's still a threat. Justice for victims is illusory.
@tiawheeler1153
@tiawheeler1153 Жыл бұрын
That is true...
@Mink_Tracks
@Mink_Tracks Жыл бұрын
Actually, a case just happened recently where a guy was caught taking pictures of his step kids and putting them on child abuse sites. He got arrested and is set to be charged with mutliple offenses. She could have tried the legal route.
@zoidver3214
@zoidver3214 Жыл бұрын
There was no evidence she lied. How would you feel if someone murdered you and lied about you having pictures of kids
@badnewsbarbienewchannel2011
@badnewsbarbienewchannel2011 Жыл бұрын
She got 25 years. My stepdad got the maxim sentence of 5 years for molesting my little sister from the age of 3-7. Let that sink in.
@intergalacticolive
@intergalacticolive 7 ай бұрын
She deserves the 25 years - her stepdad did not abuse her, but he violated her trust. You don't kill people over something you can actually seek the police for.
@Lana-oe3qy
@Lana-oe3qy 5 ай бұрын
And your sister will need all the support any one can give her. I hope she's doing well.
@AntiZi0ntaxpayer
@AntiZi0ntaxpayer 5 ай бұрын
O my God
@Incubusnut
@Incubusnut 5 ай бұрын
Five years? That’s it?! What a joke.
@tennyo120
@tennyo120 Жыл бұрын
She did so much for this man... took care of him when he couldn't. I can't even begin to fathom a situation where one of people I trust the most, since I was a kid, would violate me in that kind of way. It's all the more heartbreaking knowing that this isn't even a rare occurrence. Children being abused by stepparents or adoptive parents is so much more common than you think it would be.
@arynasabalenka3173
@arynasabalenka3173 Жыл бұрын
He also did a lot for her. Raised her, paid for all her stuff and tuition. It's awful that he had the pictures but it still doesn't justify murder
@ebayguy38
@ebayguy38 Жыл бұрын
she did so much for this man... like callously and violently club him over the head and kill him?
@KojoKyei
@KojoKyei Жыл бұрын
His pervert attitude wasn't physical.. she deserves at least 100yrs
@skagenpige88
@skagenpige88 Жыл бұрын
@@KojoKyei while im not sure about 100years, yeah id prefere having him in prison over dead.....
@KojoKyei
@KojoKyei Жыл бұрын
@@skagenpige88 if her claims are true... Killing is the move she would regret forever. He was supposed to face the shame. Dead men don't talk
@MarinkaSea911
@MarinkaSea911 Жыл бұрын
If jade would’ve gone to the police I can guarantee you they would’ve said “sorry, there’s nothing we can do since he never touched you” Victims of sexual assault rarely ever get justice. I feel so bad for Jade, the anger and betrayal she must’ve felt when she discovered those photos.
@ebayguy38
@ebayguy38 Жыл бұрын
Well I guess her killing him is justified then?
@savantbleu0250
@savantbleu0250 Жыл бұрын
@@ebayguy38 yes pretty much.
@mirziyob
@mirziyob Жыл бұрын
@@ebayguy38 yes
@salmandrame
@salmandrame Жыл бұрын
@@savantbleu0250 no it does not
@Raven-lu5ee
@Raven-lu5ee Жыл бұрын
@@ebayguy38 yup
@ciararyan9370
@ciararyan9370 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the person I feel saddest for is Jade for wasting her life due to this man’s disgusting actions. She should not have murdered him, but I think she let her rage and feelings of betrayal get the better of her.
@VideoCesar07
@VideoCesar07 Жыл бұрын
Can't really blame her for the actions she took. It's easy for us being on the outside looking in to say that she should have been reasonable and gone to the police cause that's what rational, normal people do. But just having seen that the man who helped raise you and that you have been taking care of has naked pics of you since you were underage would have to do a number on your thought process that you can't approach from the mindset of someone who is calm, rational and reasonable. Was it still OK of her to have murdered him? Understandable but...no. I don't know if there were other charges but it's unfortunate in cases like this when the prosecution will only offer up one charge of murder one with no other options cause it prolly puts the jury in a bind. They probably sympathized with her and might have considered a lesser charger of murder two but they likely felt they could not let her go unpunished regardless of her reasons even if the charge was too high.
@piledriver7238
@piledriver7238 Жыл бұрын
Where's the photo evidence she found on her step father's machine?? Oh that's right, she deleted the evidence. How do we even know the "evidence" even existed in the first place. We have no idea. We are expected to believe a murderer. And there are moron's here condoning this murderer.
@ciararyan9370
@ciararyan9370 Жыл бұрын
@@piledriver7238 I don’t know if any photos were recovered; they seemed to know where they originated, which implies that they did, in fact exist. She had no other apparent motive to kill her stepfather, and had been caring for him up to this point. To my knowledge she didn’t have a history of violent crime prior to the murder. Was it wrong to murder him? Yes. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial in this country, though who knows if she would have gotten her case into a courtroom. People are defending her because pedophiles don’t rate very high on the humanity scale.
@nthabix
@nthabix Жыл бұрын
@@VideoCesar07 The law is very literal and it does not take morals into consideration
@pollypockets508
@pollypockets508 Жыл бұрын
@@nthabix Please. No it isn't. There's a case of a woman who literally tried to kill a police officer in a police station that was acquitted. Ethan Couch killed 4 people and got very little punishment. Brock Turner got three months for rape. Give me a break.
@MauriSky2437
@MauriSky2437 Жыл бұрын
As a father, I believe anyone who abuses a child can't perish enough times. I say this unapologetically and with complete conviction.
@semregob3363
@semregob3363 Жыл бұрын
i'm not a father and i second you, soft law on criminals is more dangerous to a society that any thing.
@marywintrode638
@marywintrode638 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@k_j_n1242
@k_j_n1242 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@missmcphee8859
@missmcphee8859 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@miguelroman4294
@miguelroman4294 Жыл бұрын
I a have a beautiful step daughter who's 4 years 4 months old, I could never even imagine doing something bad to her! I would protect her with my life not take hers away with such horrible secrets.
@alnabulsi313
@alnabulsi313 Жыл бұрын
Based on statistics in America, Jade was more likely to get away with the murder than to ever see her abuser charged and imprisoned by the "justice" system. Unfortunately, when justice is withheld, vengeance is often the only accessible resolution. Such an unfortunate story 😓
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
She murdered a man, not for touching or sexually abusing her but for having pictures of her breast on his computer. She should spend the rest of her life in prison and then burn in hell for eternity. You are a despicable person for justifying her actions.
@marcleblanc3602
@marcleblanc3602 Жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah but this was not the case, she was just so mad she lost sight.
@marcleblanc3602
@marcleblanc3602 Жыл бұрын
To sense police >> Sort of for intelligent people, too complex for You, sorry; YES of chances for ABUSERs get charged -- "to ever see her abuser charged and imprisoned by the "justice" system." NO he was not a "Abuser", never touched her, just invaded her privacy by nude photograhs. Chances of prison time...near unexisting, unprofessional her killing and getting away with it > very bad. = She did get caught or are you confused on that too?
@alnabulsi313
@alnabulsi313 Жыл бұрын
@@marcleblanc3602 weird to go so hard for a perverted shitbag, but an excellent opportunity to remind the class that violence doesn't have to be physical to exist and cause harm. Also, weird to come back to the same comment days later with a big mad tone. Did you have a bad week?
@marcleblanc3602
@marcleblanc3602 Жыл бұрын
@@alnabulsi313 Well I am weird, never said I was normal, what of it? Hard? How have I defended the shitbag??? Never said anything good about him.... you english speaker? Just think SHE is out of line, aside Legally, your thing to kill shitbags okay, I dont think it is smart for a young successful Woman to do.... Guess violence in different forms, I think it is a stretch for His house invasion of her privacy, she was not suffering until she saw his computer. Loving the shitbag I understood until that point. Think "Abuser" is reserved for repetitive inflicting pain physically or mentally, not Pipping toms perverts, no blackmail, mocking, or even exposing self. Just a dirty old man. END
@ramsessone6376
@ramsessone6376 Жыл бұрын
What boils my blood is them asking Jade, “had you ever made any sexual overtures” SHE SAW HIM AS A DAD. Horribly disgusting. I hope she’s receiving therapy and able to get back to her life soon.
@ebayguy38
@ebayguy38 Жыл бұрын
Yes let's hope after that therapy she gets therapy for her murderous impulses which are far worse.
@PeteC62
@PeteC62 Жыл бұрын
@@crow4834 Um, that was her own defense attorney asking those questions. He was giving her the opportunity to make it clear that she had no knowledge or involvement in her stepfather’s sick obsession with her.
@renatacuriosa
@renatacuriosa Жыл бұрын
@@PeteC62 exactly! It’s part of court procedures.
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't her father. She already had a father. He met her when she was around 11, damn near ripe for the plucking. He should never have had unfettered access to her. People these days are stupid. If the mother remarries, the kids should go with the REAL FATHER if he's still in the picture, instead of trusting random non-relative adults around your offspring.
@maybelikealittlebit
@maybelikealittlebit Жыл бұрын
And even if she did choose to fuck or seduce him, HE IS THE PARENT AND IN THE ADULT POSITION. The prey on the hormones of a teenager is just disturbing and disgusting. Glad he’s dead and I hope she’s enjoying knowing she did that. I hope she gets out sooner than she’s supposed too.
@deborahboyes7084
@deborahboyes7084 Жыл бұрын
This is a really hard one. Having been raped by my father, I know what kind of emotions reach through her. Describing him as a kind, nice person, means nothing, in the face of what he did. You can't justify murder, no, but my sympathies are with Jade. Yes she could have taken another course of action, but that's easy for somebody to say, who has never experienced anything like this. It's really not as cut and dry, it's a very difficult space to be in.
@Rubydoomsday
@Rubydoomsday Жыл бұрын
I’m there with you, it is the ultimate violation and betrayal. At 33 I still have moments of feeling disgusting or weird like it was something *I* did even though I know better. And I DEFINITELY thought about how much better it would be if he just was gone, and I felt that rage. I have no pity for him, I hope his death is a warning to all the other men like him.
@phobosaresiana6215
@phobosaresiana6215 Жыл бұрын
While I would never kill those who have sexually assaulted me, I do understand the feelings of finally realizing what happened. Yes, she could have taken another path, but with the way victims are treated, I don't blame her for taking the "easy" way out. I am so sorry you also went through that, Deborah, and it made my blood boil when I heard "the family characterized him as blablabla" like that excuses what he did or balances it out. It's infuriating.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
What is hard about it? It is very cut and dry. You don't murder someone for having scandily clad photos of you on their computer. Your passion, your "trauma" your disappointment; none of that matters. That's for you to cope with. You don't murder someone for this. It doesn't even approach the threshhold of understanding.
@monelwookie1
@monelwookie1 Жыл бұрын
Very well said!
@genniefoster2032
@genniefoster2032 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 it wasn't just "scantily clad" photos of her. there were complete nudes of her even at 16 (which i'm pretty sure classifies as CP even if the age of consent is 16 as persons under 18 are legally considered children) which she didn't send to him! not only that, he set up secret cameras to spy on her! there was 0 consent involved AND photos of her as a child. as for the rest of your comment...what do you even mean by putting trauma in quotations?? are you saying that having a parent (biological or not) prey on you in secret for years without your knowledge isn't traumatising or at the very least troubling??
@sketstropp
@sketstropp Жыл бұрын
She killed a paedophile, so she doesn't deserve to be in jail. She did a favour for all of us.
@mondegofilms-2352
@mondegofilms-2352 Жыл бұрын
Idk if they tried, but I’m surprised her lawyers didn’t push for a plea of some sort, and really push the “sick pedo” angle. I wonder if the jury would have had more sympathy if she hadn’t tried to hide and say it wasn’t her, and been like “yeah, I did it, he’s a sick f who deserved it, and can you say you wouldn’t do the same?” Cause let’s face it, if she had gone to the cops, he would have gotten a slap on the wrist at best, and his family still thinks well of him, so it’s not like he would have lost all that much when he died a few months later than he did…
@piledriver7238
@piledriver7238 Жыл бұрын
What pedo?? He was an adult and she was an adult.
@munky342
@munky342 Жыл бұрын
It's probably a better defence, to be honest. I know I would do the same. I'm too vengeful to allow that kind of person to keep breathing. Though I have a little more integrity and would turn myself in. I would feel justified in doing the time for it.
@piledriver7238
@piledriver7238 Жыл бұрын
@@munky342 Have you ever been to prison?
@z.z.1876
@z.z.1876 Жыл бұрын
She would still be found guilty with that angle though as her life was not at risk, so the murder is not justified according to the law. It might help with recieving a lower sentence though. Her anger was justified after all even if it was a premeditated murder.
@munky342
@munky342 Жыл бұрын
@Pile Driver no. Not a civilian prison at least. But I know my own capacity for violence, ex military. And I know I wouldn't be able to stand by and let a d*ckhead like this keep living. I believe firmly in doing the time for your crimes, and know full well what kind of crime this would be. I'd accept my judgement. Would you try and cover up your crime? Knowing that it makes sh*t much worse? Edit: spelling
@vanessaweiss3904
@vanessaweiss3904 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if he has done it before. Hard to believe that she was his first victim. You don’t just wake up one day and say “ I think I will collect inappropriate pictures of my 16 year old step daughter!” Murder isn’t the only act that destroys a life. Hard to feel sorry him.
@dariasdouble212
@dariasdouble212 Жыл бұрын
Precisely. How many other women had he dated /married who had children that he did this to. Disgusting.
@bloodwash
@bloodwash Жыл бұрын
True
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Жыл бұрын
It's her I feel sorry for, even though her actions were extreme. I highly doubt should would ever have committed murder in her life if it wasn't for what that man did.
@roxannepearls901
@roxannepearls901 Жыл бұрын
No way it was a one off. Pervs never have only one victim.
@arynasabalenka3173
@arynasabalenka3173 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to feel sorry for him, but accept that what she did was wrong and her sentence is correct. He did not deserve to be murdered
@khecht908
@khecht908 Жыл бұрын
This makes me wish Jade's 'cleaner' or friend she was talking to had the forethought to try and stop her, rather than to play along and then bail out at the last minute. If there was ever a need for someone to intervene who had their wits about them, this was it. I feel like Jade got all the wrong kinds of support in her moment of crisis.
@sophiophile
@sophiophile Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I feel that he should be prosecuted as well for conspiracy/accessory. He should have been helping her cope, not being a yes man to murder
@gary-pietz4147
@gary-pietz4147 Жыл бұрын
It's possible he did not take her seriously. At first.
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Yep, it's only the mans fault, not the women who committed murder lol. She murdered a man, not for touching or sexually abusing her but for having pictures of her breast on his computer. She should spend the rest of her life in prison and then burn in hell for eternity. You are a despicable person for justifying her actions.
@michellematthews8312
@michellematthews8312 Жыл бұрын
I agree what he should of done is took her away back to her family to her mum, dad and brother for support. Not give her a hug after she tells him about it and then leaves to go straight to the police!!!
@suprlite
@suprlite Жыл бұрын
You do understand that the only 'proof' of these pictures even existing is the word of a murderer that doesnt want to go to jail?
@REDBONEPRODUCTIONS876
@REDBONEPRODUCTIONS876 Жыл бұрын
This story isnt adding up at all
@kimchiandfries4830
@kimchiandfries4830 Жыл бұрын
Not condoning it of course but I totally get it. What a violation. Especially after how selfless she was in taking care of him. Sick man.
@kimchiandfries4830
@kimchiandfries4830 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson shut the fuck up. You’re a pathetic troll all over this thread like this is some reverse uno card. If a step mom did this to his son I would have the same reaction. I don’t know who wouldn’t. This comment says everything about you tho.
@nickys5578
@nickys5578 Жыл бұрын
I am not afraid to say I condone it. ppl like him are NEVER held accountable it is always a slap on the wrist. She did the world a favor that beurcratic cowards are too afraid to do because we would rather follow the LETTER of the law rather than the spirit or reason why we make laws and society in the first place!!
@melindaroop1346
@melindaroop1346 Жыл бұрын
I do condone it. He was a predator and predators need to be taking a dirt nap.
@intergalacticolive
@intergalacticolive 7 ай бұрын
@@melindaroop1346 I don't. He actually could've gone to jail for that. Also something suspicious was that Jade allegedly deleted the evidence & never sought police. She isn't the smartest tool in the shed and now she is rightfully getting 25 years. You don't kill a guy who violates your privacy, you make an effort to put him in jail.
@calidaodiom4761
@calidaodiom4761 6 ай бұрын
​@@intergalacticolive "violated privacy" is an interesting way of belittling having child p*orn of your own daughter. If you aren't a pedophile, you're definitely the result of several generations of incest.
@carlaemerson1195
@carlaemerson1195 Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments here I have to say I'm so sorry for all the victims here. My family has also had these same issues with absolutely nothing being done about it. The justice system has let down so many young victims, it has to change.
@statisticserinokripperino
@statisticserinokripperino Жыл бұрын
It is stultifying and terrifying how many people are sharing their stories here. My heart goes out to each and every single victim of sexual abuse and stalkering.
@maschaorsomething
@maschaorsomething Жыл бұрын
@@statisticserinokripperino It's even more terrifying how many replies are shitting on them!
@statisticserinokripperino
@statisticserinokripperino Жыл бұрын
@@maschaorsomething that's the unfortunate reality of it. Nobody cares when they type a message if it really is going to hurt someone or not, let alone the degree of pain a dumb comment may cause. Hell, even I don't.
@logandee7448
@logandee7448 Жыл бұрын
Sending healing prayers your way. 💓
@statisticserinokripperino
@statisticserinokripperino Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson cope is hard with this one
@Squ33k5
@Squ33k5 Жыл бұрын
Having gone to the authorities about my own step father's predatory behavior over the years, I was 16 or so when I can think back to the way he looked at me changed, how his behavior towards me changed. I was 20 when I sought help from the police, they shrugged at me saying there's nothing they can do. I felt sick to my stomach and full of rage. I kept quiet for so long to keep the peace and had so much confusion to what was happening. There's to many cases where the authorities turn a blind eye since he never "touched or assaulted" me directly. Until you're in that spot you don't know how you will react. I at least grew to know what was happening was wrong but not knowing what to do about it. Jade finding out all at once? That for years he was wearing a mask to her face as she cared for him. I can't imagine that rage. I don't think she intended to kill him. Maybe make him feel as scared as she feels but obviously went to far. I don't feel sorry for him. That betrayal of trust is terrifying and world shattering. I wish I had the strength to make my abuser feel my fear and hurt. My family and his know. This betrayal by a step parent happens way to often and nothing is done about it.
@hailey_games
@hailey_games Жыл бұрын
You're not alone. ❤️ I've lived through a very similar experience where no one cared because my perpetrator never went "that far". The laws and punishments for all child predators really need to change. Victims should be believed no matter what and respected more than the abusers. But often, the laws aren't in place or would be a slap on the wrist. The victim is left dealing with all of this and more. :/ I hope you're doing okay.
@gundummies
@gundummies Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are many abuse victims whose voices have been shrugged off by authorities especially when the alleged crime have been done years prior and only words used as "evidence." Ifeel for them. However, she had the evidence in the mode of a computer and she had many ways to go about this and make a strong solid case that authoroties can not simply ignore it. Not unless the guy is a influencial man in the community and has connections, then it would be difficult. But still having physical proof is really huge.
@STOPLISTENANDTHINK
@STOPLISTENANDTHINK Жыл бұрын
Exactly you don't know how you would react in that blind rage - with what she discovered! I feel sorry for her. She was just getting her life on track. To make such a traumatic discovery
@wassermelonification
@wassermelonification Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Sending you my love and deepest respect
@arihayssyahira7421
@arihayssyahira7421 Жыл бұрын
I am sorry what happen to you wish everything the best for you to heal ❤️. and in Jade's case I think she chose violence because she know if she told her family they will want to see all those pictures which is traumatizing on its own let alone have to convince everyone that the "kind man" is actually evil .
@Gracelynvieu
@Gracelynvieu Жыл бұрын
First of all, her lawyers are terrible. With this text messages, why would they frame it as if there was a window of doubt?? They could have had a better shot if they explained it as a crime of passion. Secondly, how could she be so shocked to be found guilty?? The evidence was a slam dunk.
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 Жыл бұрын
Had they done that (crime of passion defense), I'm sure the prosecutor would have wanted to see proof there actually WERE pictures and neither Jade nor her lawyers wanted that since there wasn't any. Honestly, the fact she took this to trial is astounding, which is kind of why there's so much weirdness with Jade's motive. This is one of those rare cases in which not only does the prosecution not need to establish a motive, but the defendant actually testified, meaning her narrarive wasn't challenged nearly as much as it would be otherwise.
@cdes1776
@cdes1776 Жыл бұрын
I'm more confused than ever now.
@hoi-polloi1863
@hoi-polloi1863 Жыл бұрын
There was too much planning ahead of time to argue crime of passion. I think Jade was going double or nothing, and lost.
@replicanna6931
@replicanna6931 Жыл бұрын
@@joez.2794 If so, what was the motive? And even accusing that there were pictures, would the jury not want to see them anyway? I do not buy this
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 Жыл бұрын
@@replicanna6931 The motive was ofc _money._ Jade was a drug addict and there's no more evidence she was a "millionaire" than of the pics. Not sure what you mean about the jury - they can want to see the pics all they want, but I don't think they can actually _request_ to see them if they weren't presented at trial, as that would fall under cross-examination.
@vyrkolakas
@vyrkolakas Жыл бұрын
as a survivor of csa i cant say i feel too terrible or that i think shes a bad person for what she did. i remember getting older and realizing what happened to me and being so angry. all i could think about was what i wanted to do to that person. theyre very dark and overwhelming thoughts, she just acted on the fantasies instead. its a terrible to thing to have happened but my sympathies are much more for her than for him edit:there are people in these comments attempting to dismiss mine and others experiences and id ask that you dont engage them if you can avoid it. i know its frustrating but dont give them what they want. and to clarify i dont think this was justified. i just understand why she did what she did from the perspective of someone with similar trauma. i dont think shes evil necessarily, just very rash and impulsive and i think the conversation is much more black and white than we'd like it to be
@dbz9393
@dbz9393 Жыл бұрын
Cool story, still a murderer criminal. Hope she enjoys jail
@AelitaVA
@AelitaVA Жыл бұрын
I completely relate & agree. As a survivor, it’s extremely difficult to say that what she did as a reaction to such a disgusting thing he’s done to her since she was a kid, I don’t blame her for reacting like that. Cases like this are difficult because there is a big victim in all of this as well who unknowingly, was a victim since she was 16, finding that all out at one time must have been so overwhelming & horrible. I just wish she didn’t have to go through it alone. It’s hard for me to say that Jade did the wrong thing in this situation. Because the situation itself is so wrong & horrible. I feel so bad for her.
@zoeburks3789
@zoeburks3789 Жыл бұрын
I had to stop watching because I'm currently going through the trauma due to a similar situation with a former step-parent who is not seeking professional help, nor are they not allowed back at the house even though EVERYONE knows what they did. I can't count how many times I've gone through things in my head wondering if it was my fault and then thinking of everything I would want to happen to them. This is a very hard case for me to listen to.
@Beastmode-zx9gm
@Beastmode-zx9gm Жыл бұрын
Yup, same. Tired asf asf of these dbags using women especially daughters of any form be8ng used and abused. LE/courts do NOTHING. So what are our future generations to do? Completely justified in my opinion
@feederdiaries4862
@feederdiaries4862 Жыл бұрын
The more I watch these shows, the more I realize how much people like this step dad are supported. If she had reported him, there's a good chance he wouldn't have done any time even, and then they give her FIRST degree? I don't think she should do any real time for this, maybe just send her to some type of therapy facility for a couple years.
@khoiiifish
@khoiiifish Жыл бұрын
I was a child when one of my adult relatives sexually assaulted me, 7 or 8 at the oldest. My family wanted to avoid a scandal. So, they covered it and silenced me my whole life, even made me feel guilty for it. It happened so long ago, that even if I came out with it now, nothing would change. There is nothing left to show for it, only scars that are visible to no one but myself. CSA, really SA in general, is a wound that you keep for your entire life. While I know in my heart that Jade should have taken this to authorities, I can't hold her at fault for the way she felt. I can't say that I feel truly sorry for her victim. I understand that his loss caused his family grief regardless of his actions, but I just can't. Regardless of the way she handled it, Jade wouldn't have come out on the other side unscathed. The only difference is that now, she's going to have to shoulder that trauma behind bars, rather than in the comfort of loved ones that she could still trust. It's unfortunate for everyone involved. Very heartbreaking and thought-provoking case. Was very glad to sit down to a new video from you during my lunch break!
@ryanmullett8832
@ryanmullett8832 Жыл бұрын
thats a good point you make in the second paragraph. sorry that happened to you
@pikabiga
@pikabiga Жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear. It’s strange how they always shame victims, even more heartbreaking when the victim is a child. For Jade I don’t blame her for what she did. I feel like only those who have gone through something similar can judge her. Betrayal from someone you trust, even the network who were supposed to support and love you, can drive many to their own solution
@danielkim672
@danielkim672 Жыл бұрын
I am sorry to read your story. I hope you have the opportunity to tell your story in public, to out the person who did this to you and the family who covered it up. Even if nothing happens to the actual predator.
@stobiepiel2585
@stobiepiel2585 Жыл бұрын
Too many children have suffered this, and it’s horrifying. I’m sorry it happened to you, and I hope your family realizes what they’ve done to hurt you by demanding silence. The idea she could have just told the police and all will be well is just stupid. We know how that’s handled, if it ever gets that far. The victim is supposed to keep it quiet and suffer in polite silence. People will whine that HIS life was ruined. They’ll blame her for having pictures in the first place. (Which some nitwits here are already doing). I’m sorry the legal system failed her, as they have so many others. Not sorry for him.
@JordanHowellMusic
@JordanHowellMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment here…there are many people in a similar place , you’re not alone. For whatever solace that grants, I hope some, also know that I appreciated your honesty , and you couldn’t have put things any better when saying that she will now have to “shoulder the trauma” in prison, as , someone who also has a brother in prison knows, there is incredibly little therapy and healing going on in the for profit prison system in this country (US). It must have been incredibly murky to her at the time being the one so close to the violation and trauma , that this seemed like a better option , which is sad and, to me , somewhat surprising, I guess I wouldn’t know how I’d react until I were put in this situation but- I THINK , I would have gone the route of …not…killing someone…I was surprised by that move, for someone like jade with supposedly no past violent tendencies, to seemingly, very quickly, be moved to murder….well I think I probably wouldn’t have done the same thing.. Who knows…but you can tell me if I’m wrong- I’d think that is a pretty rare stance to take- and a pretty overcharged reactionary approach to desiring justice or even eye for an eye retribution….idk… violation of sexual assault vs violation of murder…I’m not a fan of either but…😮 Anyway if you read this far, thanks again and much love from Philadelphia!
@diannebdee
@diannebdee Жыл бұрын
As a victim of rape, I cannot feel sorry for the man. He may not have physically violated Jade, but he did mentally. Sometimes that can be worse than the actual act of rape. My rapist lived in the same town as I did and it was hard to not see him in public situations. I saw him a good number of times and he kept saying to me, "No hard feelings" for what he'd done to me. For me I'd more or less gotten over the physical violation, but the continued mental and emotional violation was just too much. I can understand Jade's reaction to seeing the photos. I cannot feel anything for the guy. He sort of brought it on himself. Jade's verdict shouldn't stand.
@mefunnyknow
@mefunnyknow Жыл бұрын
Was it the towns priest ?
@katyap.8404
@katyap.8404 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I agree with everything you say! Similar story is here! I am torn, obviously her killing him didn't do any good to her, but am I feeling sorry for that animal? Hell no. Do I think he deserved it? Hell yes!
@tkettle1539
@tkettle1539 Жыл бұрын
I agree hes truly disgusting and in my eyes he fucking ruined her and deserved what he got
@MK1vids
@MK1vids Жыл бұрын
All I wanna say is, you are so strong-simply off the fact you didn’t kill him right when he said that to you in that context. Girl-you are something else (compliment)❤
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 Жыл бұрын
No, no it can't be worse than the actual act of r8pe.
@barryallenflash1
@barryallenflash1 Жыл бұрын
I've watched a LOT of cases similar to this. Someone gets "violated" then they take revenge. Honestly, with our justice system failing, I can see why Jade did what she did. Does that make it right? No. Her step-dad would've gotten a slap on the wrist, gotten out in a few years and she would've had to see AND deal with that, so instead...she took matters into her own hands. NOT a wise decision.
@robertreed7963
@robertreed7963 Жыл бұрын
Can you say the justice system failed her when she never used it?
@rabblerousin8981
@rabblerousin8981 Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@rabblerousin8981
@rabblerousin8981 Жыл бұрын
@@robertreed7963it’s a fair point, but look at how it takes SA claims. Statistically it’s about the easiest crime to get away with, and as a former child I personally attest that nobody GAF when you tell them what’s happening or who did it. You’ve got a point but I promise it can be at least as victimizing to try and get justice as it is to be victimized. I personally was able to put the SA in a little box in my memory and dissociate past it for a long time, and it wasn’t until I spoke up and saw that nobody cared that the fallout of having been SA’d really started to unravel my life.
@cindys9858
@cindys9858 Жыл бұрын
What else would you expect? It's not criminal to have nude photos, especially when she willingly posed for them. Maybe not for the stepdad but legally doesn't matter if an ex gave them to him. Which is bizarre and unbelievable in itself, how did he get the supposed pics? I'm not dismissing how revolting it would be if he had the pics mind you. Just no criminal acts. Before you make a claim of cp, the photos were ten years old, how old was Jade when she murdered the stepdad? Do the math. 28 is hardly a child. Still gross. But still no proof of the photos and her story makes zero sense about how he got them and how she found them. She's also proven herself many times to be a liar. I was a victim as a child, and in my view of she lied, which I believe wholeheartedly that she obviously did, she's the revolting one in every way.
@kimtatami6559
@kimtatami6559 11 ай бұрын
Exactly, she shouldn’t have killed him even though i totally feel her pain and horror
@ktheterkuceder6825
@ktheterkuceder6825 Жыл бұрын
In her defense the stepfather had it coming.
@shawnmoore1726
@shawnmoore1726 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit ,she didn't have to kill him
@rachellekeller2809
@rachellekeller2809 Жыл бұрын
absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!
@Wrath.fullll
@Wrath.fullll Жыл бұрын
@@shawnmoore1726 yes she did
@FlamingBasketballClub
@FlamingBasketballClub Жыл бұрын
@@Wrath.fullll Nah. Murder isn't the answer
@ktheterkuceder6825
@ktheterkuceder6825 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnmoore1726 Agreed. Death was to merciful for him.
@Redtulllip
@Redtulllip Жыл бұрын
In that one moment where she found what her stepfather did, it could have made her feel like her entire reality had been shattered. The person she looked up to, took care of and trusted had totally destroyed her world. She said she couldn't even touch her own skin. She was probably going through disassociation or derealization and maybe thats why she didn't cry when her verdict came out. Sometimes when you're in that state, nothing seems real. Trauma can do that to your brain. Its kind of like you're already dead.
@ioiwut4874
@ioiwut4874 Жыл бұрын
okay someone gets it. and able to articulate it without offending. i've been ranting in the comments for at least an hour now, thanks for helping me level out
@bucketree
@bucketree Жыл бұрын
Well said, that’s the science behind a crime of passion
@LokiturnedmeintoaFrog
@LokiturnedmeintoaFrog Жыл бұрын
She still didn't admit what she did, I don't like the idea of murder but if you believe that you are going to kill someone for a justified reason have the courage to admit "Yeah I killed them, they deserved it" also don't try to drag friends into it.
@marcusanthony9322
@marcusanthony9322 Жыл бұрын
@@bucketree it wasn't a crime of passion and that is not a thing anymore. He was a dirt bag but he didn't do anything that justified his death, prison yes, death no. And before you start, yes I get it what he did to her was disgusting but she should have gone to the cops, if she had found out that he was taking pics whilst she was really young and actually abusing her maybe but the only thing he did that was illegal was voyeurism.
@tibicenlinnei4014
@tibicenlinnei4014 Жыл бұрын
@Marcus Anthony preying on your teenage stepdaughter voids your right to exist.
@thatawkwardchick7848
@thatawkwardchick7848 Жыл бұрын
It’s no secret that SA can really break someone’s psyche. This guy did something that broke her, and so he dealt with consequences. I feel no sympathy for him. She needs therapy not jail.
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 Жыл бұрын
When did he SA her?
@savantbleu0250
@savantbleu0250 Жыл бұрын
@@razer0072073 did u listen to the entire video? Because it's hard to miss that point where she found out he'd been taking videos of her in her bedroom and bathroom when she was a child using a hidden camera. And if you're gonna say that's not sexual assaults then idk what to say to you.
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 Жыл бұрын
@@savantbleu0250 What's the definition of SA?
@savantbleu0250
@savantbleu0250 Жыл бұрын
@@razer0072073 good luck defending pedos and SA just because "its not the same definition". You'll go far in life🙂
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 Жыл бұрын
@@savantbleu0250 Do you even know what the definition of SA is? And you're literally defending a murderer
@TyrBarghest
@TyrBarghest Жыл бұрын
So looking further into this case, something interesting has popped up. No one has seen these pictures of her nude. Apparently, she destroyed the hard drive. And I don't recall any mention of police finding any hidden cameras in her place. That makes the case kind of weird. With no proof these pictures even existed, we just have to take her word for it. Probably not the smartest of moves to destroy the hard drive.
@wsidechris
@wsidechris Жыл бұрын
Those facts don’t stop the bloodhounds in the comments section who are crying over Jade’s conviction. They’ve got their torches and pitchforks ready to kill more. They think it’s okay for individuals to be judge, jury and executioner.
@katemangos1705
@katemangos1705 Жыл бұрын
On one hand, I understand why she might have done it: when you see something that disgusting and humiliating about yourself, first thing you want to do is destroy it. On the other hand, this whole thing doesn't make much sense to me. Why hire a fixer? Why text him explicitly what you are doing? Why did the fixer back out if cleaning up after the murder is exactly what she hired him to do? Was there a life insurance for her stepdad and was she the beneficiary? If his health was declining fast, the usual lowly motivation for this murder is relief for herself. It's incredibly taxing for those who care for the disabled relatives, especially alcoholics with drug issues. It was super hard for her to take care of him, and discovering these pictures probably made her blood boil.
@markblaze4909
@markblaze4909 6 ай бұрын
Most likely she lied. Bad story anyways. Trying to vilify someone for sexual thoughts is old and pathetic.
@wrencloutier8235
@wrencloutier8235 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has had pictures shared of me when I was 13 I understand why she did it. I went to the police and not only did nothing happen but my mom told me she missed the person who shared the photos and said I should get back with him. Needless to say when I was raped years later I didn't go to the police, and again my family doesn't believe me. I very rarely feel murder is justified but I get why she feels its justified. If my rapist or the guy who shared pictures died I'd dance on their graves honestly. People like that don't deserve to live freely to hurt people
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 Жыл бұрын
@Long John Thilver Not one report on this trial says "alleged photos", which means that the photos were still there on the computer and not disputed by the prosecution or anyone else.
@gary-pietz4147
@gary-pietz4147 Жыл бұрын
The difference is she had proof.
@wrencloutier8235
@wrencloutier8235 Жыл бұрын
@@gary-pietz4147 doesn't mean they would have done anything. Im not saying what she did was right, but I do understand. Being believed is half the problem we face when we come forward. even if we have proof, its always what we're you wearing, were you drunk, are you dating, and on and on with questions that aren't relevant for no reason. Being told we were asking for it, were dramatic, it happened along time ago and why are we still so upset. Its because you'll be hard pressed to find someone who believes you, even the people you love and trust will call you a liar, tell you you're being dramatic, that so and so is a good person or "they've never treated me badly". That is an unimaginable pain. To finally stop blaming yourself and come forward, just to be told to sit down and stay quiet. It will drive some to unimaginable actions to try and dampen the pain, to try and take back some of what was violently ripped away. Again im not saying its right, but it does make sense
@goldenghxst
@goldenghxst Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you went through that, I experienced a really similar thing :( my sister and I were groomed by a very close family friend who lived with us when we were 13. he assaulted her during that time and there were photos as proof of what he did. but when I convinced her to tell the cops a couple years later, they didn't even bother questioning him. they just brushed us aside and let him walk free. and I was assaulted by someone close to me when I was a kid but I've never told anyone because I know no one would believe me. I wish that cases like this count as self defense. if he was bold enough to spy on his own daughter and take inappropriate pictures of her, he easily could've hurt her if she had confronted him. really the only way that sexual assault victims can get justice is to hurt/kill their abusers since the cops don't give a fuck about punishing them.
@wrencloutier8235
@wrencloutier8235 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenghxst i believe you, and im so sorry you went through that. I wish we were able to safely come out and tell our stories with out being afraid of being further trumatized by the people who are supposed to care. Police need more training on assult and the signs of abuse in close relationships, same with teachers. Its sad how often these things go unnoticed, especially when its people who are supposed to keep you safe. I hope you find the support you need to heal 💜
@mel0_mania
@mel0_mania Жыл бұрын
i honestly can't blame her. i cannot imagine how violating it would be so find that from someone you considered a father. i personally dont think the police would take this situation seriously if it was her reporting him, because men OFTEN get away with crimes like this.
@liku9832
@liku9832 Жыл бұрын
Me neither. However if she really wanted to get at her father she could've done this completely differently. The problem is that her father wanted to "own" her. He was narcissistic at the very least. Sometimes with narcissistic men, their way of owning their female victim is by having some form of "ownership" of their body. This factor also plays on sexism, misogyny etc. By the father keeping those nasty photos of his daughter, in his twisted mind, that was his ownership of her. The best way to really make an individual like that pay, is by taking their power away. The only power that man really had was his access to the daughter and the pictures he had of her. What the daughter should've done was to first calm down. She then should've took her phone out and recorded everything she saw and narrated what took place. She should've confiscated the computer and any other electronics with her photos as evidence. She then should've ignored his calls and left him at the hospital. Technically he's still "sick" right? She then should've spoke with friends about it or who ever would be willing to listen. By doing that she would tarnish his image. She then should've went to the police about it. He more than likely would've done prison time because she had SO much evidence stacked against him. Finally she should've brung all of this to the attention of the family to tear his relationships with them a part. Whether the family turns against her, doesn't matter. She then should completely block the father and whoever backed him, out of her life. Her final goal should've been for her children to never discover what the father's face looks like. And if they do discover what he looks like, it will be an accident. That was how she was going to get the last laugh. Not by killing him and having people sympathize with him for being a victim of murder.
@glamglam8347
@glamglam8347 Жыл бұрын
@@liku9832 blaming the victim yet again. "she shouldve she shoulve" HE SHOULDVE NEVER VIOLATED HER. how about that. I'm so tired of everyone focusing on what she did and what she should've done. another example of women being taught to "calm down" "take the high road" when met with a mans disgusting objectification of her.
@clintmcjeepjunkie820
@clintmcjeepjunkie820 Жыл бұрын
@Glam glam With your logic I can see a bunch of men that have women mad at them for petty reasons taking pictures of themselves and uploading them to the guys computers just to kill them. There's a reason you can't murder someone over a picture no matter who took it. You can be a sick and angry as you want at men but murder isn't the answer.
@addie_is_me
@addie_is_me Жыл бұрын
Being able to kill is another level and she can’t be boppin’ around free with that ability, but reporting him would have done very little with LE and look how lovingly his disgusting family still talks about him. I hope she is not treated too badly in jail.
@addie_is_me
@addie_is_me Жыл бұрын
@jamaljohnson6411Someone took his, crazy and out of touch, pills today. Do you need a hug? 😂😂😂
@AelitaVA
@AelitaVA Жыл бұрын
This is awful & I honestly feel so sorry for Jade. As someone who has been a victim of abuse of this kind, I can relate to how she felt. I don’t think I blame her for what she did, wrong or right. But it would be better for her to have called the police. But I still feel sorry for her & having to realize that you’ve taken care of this person who you’ve called your father for most of your life, violates you like that for almost the entire time he was her father & I feel horrible that she had to go through that alone.
@therealangelalexander1858
@therealangelalexander1858 Жыл бұрын
My feelings on this to an absolute T. Brilliantly worded
@sethbishop6890
@sethbishop6890 Жыл бұрын
She didn't have to go thru it alone she killed a man. We all feel bad for her of course, but murder is not the way. It's sad man it really is. I hate her messages
@md-1
@md-1 Жыл бұрын
@@sethbishop6890 you’re a guy,... you will never understand. I say not guilty and thankfully one less creepy man out there.
@sethbishop6890
@sethbishop6890 Жыл бұрын
@@md-1 wow you're a real self absorbed person. Guys can't be molested? Guys can't be made sick to their stomach when an adult man touches them and their friends sexually? What the hell?
@AelitaVA
@AelitaVA Жыл бұрын
@@sethbishop6890 I’m not saying that killing a man is okay simply because of this, however I am saying that as someone who has been through this myself, she was alone & she made the wrong decision because of all of that hitting her at once. That kind of thing is extremely traumatizing & horrible to go through & unless you’ve been through something like this, it’s hard to understand where she’s coming from. But because I have been, it’s much harder to look at things in just a, “black & white”, kind of way.
@myeshaJADE
@myeshaJADE Жыл бұрын
This case makes me so sad for Jade….she had a mental break after seeing her naked body on someone’s computer she thought was her dad it’s so messed up!
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Жыл бұрын
There's no evidence AT ALL of ANY pictures of her on his computer. She removed the hard drive and got rid of it. ANYTHING about so-called pictures are just her saying it. You'd be a fool to take the word of a murderer. She's going to be sentenced in less that two weeks and she's going to get her just desserts.
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Жыл бұрын
@@vp2718 Of course, there's ANOTHER motive. You're just taking her WORD for what she claims to be her motive for murder. If there's evidence of your stepfather having your nude pictures on his computer, let's see it. She wouldn't tell the court where the hard drive was. She's so full of it.
@allisonisis
@allisonisis Жыл бұрын
​@@shootfirst2097you have a bunch of comments saying there are no pictures. It's a little disturbing tbh. It's almost as if you hav no idea what it's like to be abused. 🤔 Also, it's been 4 months and she's still in jail.
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Жыл бұрын
@@allisonisis I don't have to SAY it-- no pictures were EVER produced at trial because Jade threw away the hard drive! So it's some crazy murderer's word you're taking for fact. I suggest you start looking at facts and logic. And yes, she's in jail for the next 25 years. Hope she rots with Big Bertha as her cellmate
@calidaodiom4761
@calidaodiom4761 6 ай бұрын
​@@allisonisis I agree, this guy @shootfirst2097 is making an exceptional effort to try to defend this man. Makes me wonder what they have in common ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
@judithmendez6449
@judithmendez6449 Жыл бұрын
It's not only the violation, but the person is someone you've been caring for more than you should. It's humiliating.
@mysataniclife666
@mysataniclife666 Жыл бұрын
If you haven’t been sexually violated then sure it may be hard to understand why murder feels like an appropriate punishment to some victims. I feel heartbroken for Jade honestly. All sexual predators should be dealt with, yet it’s the victims that are left broken and wounded beyond repair. She may not have been physically assaulted but that doesn’t mean she didn’t experience psychological trauma from realising her DAD was using her for his own sick desires.
@Mommy55555
@Mommy55555 Жыл бұрын
Yeah made me angry that he had the audacity to say that Murder was worse in this situation. Clearly he has never been taken advantage of
@Sniperboy5551
@Sniperboy5551 Жыл бұрын
Stepdad* but yeah still weird
@Tungsteno
@Tungsteno Жыл бұрын
If you're not a person with common sense and logic then it may be hard to understand why you can't get away with murder. In her "case" (no evidence other than her words) it was only pictures, which makes this even less "justified". Yeah emotions can't save a 1st degree murderer from 25 years in prison i'm afraid
@nightshadegatito
@nightshadegatito Жыл бұрын
There’s some kind of automatic echo chamber when it comes to this kind of stuff. And no one recognizes that the school system itself is a great betrayal and abuse perpetrated on all people. I think this exacerbates any CSA trauma, because children are already all victims of the system. To take advantage of a child is to hurt someone who is already suffering and defenseless.
@rabblerousin8981
@rabblerousin8981 Жыл бұрын
@@Tungstenolol at you “yeah but”ing on behalf of pedos. Okay, Jan 😅
@calamityjane9104
@calamityjane9104 Жыл бұрын
The legal system wouldn't have done anything to him save for some fines and maybe probation especially since he's older and ill. This level of betrayal is absolutely disgusting. I consider myself a nice person. I go out of my way to be kind to humans, animals and the environment. I volunteer. I rescue. I caretake. I'm a cancer survivor. I feel empathetic to the emotions and needs of others. I'm also a survivor of sa and r as a child and an adult. All that being said...I would've done the same...except for the texts and poor planning.
@karama5562
@karama5562 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson bruh that was basically her father with her nudes on his laptop and all u can say is feminist, dudes will make literally anything political
@yennefer440
@yennefer440 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson no need to out yourself as a pedo.
@valleydfox4287
@valleydfox4287 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson Are you mentally challenged ? Your "argument" falls the moment you exchange the abused girl for a boy. In both cases, that SOB had it coming. Death to all abusers!
@shootfirst2097
@shootfirst2097 Жыл бұрын
@@karama5562 Nothing "political" about his comment. He's revealing the hypocrisy of women who post and share nude photos and then get upset when somebody not related to them obtains access. FAIL.
@jaday7282
@jaday7282 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson Not saying she should have murdered him, but the fact that you justify his actions with "some photos" and "he didn't even share them." And the fact that you think being a "feminist" is a bigger insult than being a pedophile and a sex offender says SO MUCH about you. You left a less than 20 word comment and yet we found out so much about who you are....and none of it good. During your life, if ever comes a point where you wonder even a little bit in that tiny mind of yours whether you are a bad person, just know that the answer is a resounding YES! You're *actually* disgusting. That's all 😊✌
@kellyfox939
@kellyfox939 Жыл бұрын
If it screwed her up so bad that the only option was murdering him, you’d think she’d have a tear while “crying.” Was it said in court that there were in fact images? Or was it based on her word? Wonder if she was one of the ones that would receive money from his life insurance?
@haro_yemon
@haro_yemon Жыл бұрын
The guy used the pictures as his desktop background, he clearly felt no remorse, doubt even shame, so I have to disagree, he deserved to be 6 feet under rather than just being punished by "bringing shame to his name" especially since his family's reaction was similar to "yes he had one small flaw but loom at how great he was otherwise" that feels like he would have gotten off pretty easy with just some shame.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
People like you are scary. All emotion. No discernment.
@haro_yemon
@haro_yemon Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 well the world is a scary place
@KojoKyei
@KojoKyei Жыл бұрын
If this girl is STUPID enough to share her nudes outside...she could have just reported him. If she has issues with nudity, she shouldn't have been sending nudes yrs earlier. Imagine getting killed by a porn star for stealing her nudes.
@jordanrooker678
@jordanrooker678 Жыл бұрын
This was kind of my shocked reaction to the ending honestly If their reaction to him being a genuine monster was "but he was ok tho", maybe she felt like she had no choice, I mean, they proved that in the end. Glad to not have to be on that jury 😬
@WickedTimes
@WickedTimes Жыл бұрын
Saying he should die cuz he was a perv is crazy. He never touched that woman…
@shopsuey666
@shopsuey666 Жыл бұрын
I think the way you described what she could have done is exactly why victims don't come forward.
@AncientCrustacean
@AncientCrustacean Жыл бұрын
100%
@Chaotic_Good94
@Chaotic_Good94 Жыл бұрын
ikr 🙄
@ikz8439
@ikz8439 Жыл бұрын
exactly 😅
@rivershaley
@rivershaley Жыл бұрын
yeah exactly the ending kinda left a bad taste in my mouth. love this channel but i think it’s so disrespectful to tell victims how they should react to their own abuse.
@vincent67239
@vincent67239 Жыл бұрын
@@rivershaley How is discouraging murder disrespectful?
@thevelvetblackbird6402
@thevelvetblackbird6402 Жыл бұрын
While I don't conde the murder, I can sincerely say I understand why Jade did what she did. Imagine trusting a person, any person you were so close to, lovingly took care of, only to find out they violated you in such a disgusting manner. I can only imagine how shocked and humiliated she felt, the anger, sadness, and pain. Yes she was not physically violated by this man, but he did violate her and took advantage of her kindness, trust and love. What would you do, if this happened to you or a loved one? I hope Jade can heal from this.
@liverbird956
@liverbird956 Жыл бұрын
I would understand if her step father had sexually abused her but now she's looking at a possible 25 year sentence killing a man for taking a picture of her breasts! Why murder him and ruin your own life!! Makes no sense to me!
@wowamber5107
@wowamber5107 Жыл бұрын
That type of betrayal kills you inside anyways, might as well take him out too
@kc-ku1ri
@kc-ku1ri Жыл бұрын
@@liverbird956 he didn't get killed for "taking a picture of her breasts". He got killed for collecting nude photos of her ever since she was a child by contacting her ex's and going on her devices. He was stalking her and collecting nude pictures of her for YEARS. Don't downplay what he did, as soon as he decided to prey on his own daughter her life was already ruined.
@adith9327
@adith9327 Жыл бұрын
That was stupid she basically wasted here life if she is charged could have done the legal way and got him sentenced
@liverbird956
@liverbird956 Жыл бұрын
@@adith9327 Exactly go down the legal route, she took matters into her own hands now she is probably going to spend her best years locked in a prison cell! It amazed me how shocked she looked in court when the Judge read the Guilty verdict...Lady you murdered somebody!! i know he was a pervert but you can't go around murdering people that have done you wrong can you imagine if everyone did that!
@pumalogo204
@pumalogo204 Жыл бұрын
she said her bf took the pictures??? so how did the step dad get them??..she claimed he had the pics on his computer,,but never proven...the police never testified that they were pics on his computer...so that shows society that she is lying,,,hear say
@tearainey1
@tearainey1 Жыл бұрын
I can't blame her. I've been sa'd and nearly r'd by an uncle. I tried both routes, going to family and going to the police. Both routes led to very little. Family locked him and I in a room, with only two other people so that he could 'apologize' for what he did. The entire time the only thing I saw hiding in his eyes was violent rage, and I felt like the more time they forced us to remain the more unstable things would become. I was shaking. They kept telling me "let it go, he's a veteran of the military, nothing will happen. Don't go to the police." but I was scared. He lived just a few houses down from me and I was terrified that in the night I'd wake up with him on top of me again, and this time I'd have no weapons. I went to the police, but they were frank with me. They could slap him on the wrist, drag his name a little, but it wouldn't bring any real measure of justice. Not until he actually r'd me or hurt me badly. I thought about unaliving myself out of fear, depression, shame, all those negative feelings. When the rage hit it was unimaginably powerful. I'd never felt so angry. I was angry at my family. I was angry at him. I was angry at myself. He's still alive, but I moved away along with the few family members who believed me. The rest he convinced that I was crazy and incapable of discerning reality from fantasy. My family tried to lock me up in a mental facility to save his image. So thinking from her perspective, knowing he lived so close, knowing he harbored those sick desires, and having your very foundation shattered I can truly empathize with the violence and hatred she likely felt. And that was all self preservation pushing her. A slap on the wrist from the cops, *maybe* he'd get some fines, and *maybe* people would believe her. But she'd have to leave, she'd have to change her entire life, and she would have to come to terms with what he did. And the community probably wouldn't have rallied against him either, so she'd have to deal with that too just like I did. The 'military veteran' too proud and honorable to do that to his own family. It's just a fucked up mess from the get go, and there's no easy answers.
@yzettasmith4194
@yzettasmith4194 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god you were betrayed over and over! I'm so sorry. Your witness brings me to tears. How fucking horrible that you were done that way. That shit is so wrong!
@chaoswitch1974
@chaoswitch1974 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. How awful! Family can be pretty unhelpful and often seem to expect the victim to just get over it. They justify what the abuser did in any way possible. It's a losing situation. I don't blame Jade, either. We have zero retribution being SA'd, and reacting will only cause people to victim blame, and worse case, end to in prison.
@SprinkledFox
@SprinkledFox Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story with us. You survived and that's admirable. Sexual predators, especially those who prey on children, have no right to mercy. Not even a higher power could protect them from the wrath of justice; death.
@lfsantacruz8703
@lfsantacruz8703 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if we lived in a world where these monsters were ever actually held reasonably accountable, then maybe I'd argue that she should have reported him. But we all know the system straight up let's rapists who were caught in the act off with basically zero punishment. So until that changes, I'm not gonna pass judgment on any victim that takes justice into their own hands. I'll literally never feel any ounce of sympathy for any abuser. Ever.
@badnipple
@badnipple Жыл бұрын
​@@lfsantacruz8703well said 100% agreed!!! I felt nothing and even joy that she took justice into her own hands.
@deepspacenicole
@deepspacenicole Жыл бұрын
I can’t help but wish she had just given him all the ambien without telling anyone. The overdose would have been expected given his addiction, and the disgusting truth about his actions would have come out when family helped clean out his house. I think this is one case where you don’t need to try to paint the victim in a positive light.
@bitteralmonds666
@bitteralmonds666 Жыл бұрын
I would not convict her.
@mutedroar
@mutedroar Жыл бұрын
I agree. If she have remained silent, it would have been fine.
@kaifreyleue5961
@kaifreyleue5961 Жыл бұрын
Translation: "I wish she'd been smarter about committing murder and hadn't gotten caught."
@yzettasmith4194
@yzettasmith4194 Жыл бұрын
@@kaifreyleue5961 Refined definition "I wish she'd been smarter about ridding the world of a pedo and hadn't gotten caught."
@scheezy
@scheezy Жыл бұрын
@@bitteralmonds666 Good thing you aren't a judge then.
@SwedestThing
@SwedestThing Жыл бұрын
I was Jade’s Nanny when she was 4-5 years old. I moved away from the San Diego area and didn’t keep in touch. My boyfriend, at the time, still there and contacted me, asking if this was “my” Jade. Unfortunately, yes it is. I am in utter shock over how her life turned out.
@Samuelfish2k
@Samuelfish2k Жыл бұрын
Crazy…
@JordanEndTimeServantOfYah144
@JordanEndTimeServantOfYah144 Жыл бұрын
The people in these comments section defending her are INSANE. Murder is NEVER ok. And it's sad she chose that.
@malachi-
@malachi- Жыл бұрын
@@JordanEndTimeServantOfYah144 The main thing everyone doesn't want to acknowledge is that there were no pics at all as evidence, no pics were ever found, that is just her story after the body was found.
@eileeneclark9011
@eileeneclark9011 11 ай бұрын
10/16/23...SO HER STEPDAD TOOK SECRET PIX OF HER THRU THE YEARS. THAT IS NO EXCUSE TO MURDER ANYBODY... SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED HIM PRIVATELY...OR MADE HIM GIVE HER ALL HIS ASSETS...+ TOLD EVERYBODY ABOUT HIS FILTHY ACTIONS... BUT HE NEVER TOUCHED HER OR RAPED HER....SO NO NEED TO KILL HIM!
@malachi-
@malachi- 11 ай бұрын
@@eileeneclark9011 He not only did not take any pics, there were no file of pics ever found of her on his computer, that is just what she says she saw, after she killed him. Quit assuming that what you're being told is fact, the media sells you your own emotions (self), you cannot trust them.
@robertblackwell1350
@robertblackwell1350 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a tough one. It reminds me of a couple of lines from a short story I read a while ago. “What you did is legally indefensible but morally correct.” Or something like that, I may be paraphrasing and I can’t remember the title of author. In any case, the dude was sick, but she planned his murder out. If she had killed him him on the same day I think the case may have gone a different way.
@z.z.1876
@z.z.1876 Жыл бұрын
I agree that she hardly would have got any years if it happened in the heat of the moment. But with days passing in between and with so much evidence for premeditiaton... I'm not surprised she was found of guilty of first degree murder.
@sanne27
@sanne27 Жыл бұрын
It's never morally correct to take a person's life. What you're describing is a double standard that enables us to find an excuse to take another's life if we can just keep talking ourselves into justifying it; if we consider any form of taking a human life morally just, nobody is ever truly off limits. And that should be highly concerning! Moral justice would look like sexual offenders being punished reliably, and not get away with their crimes. Moral justice would be to allow him to live, but confined for the rest of his life for violating another person in one of the most intimate ways possible. Moral justice is applying human rights even to those who don't abide by human rights; because the right to live needs to be, at all times, a fundamental right that cannot be swayed from in order for us to insist everyone, including marginalized groups, has a right to them. We cannot make exceptions because that's what fascism does! There are people in this world who believe it's moral justice for me to die because I'm not straight, because I'm disabled, because I'm chronically ill. They consider my life an infection to the human population. The only reason why they can't just get away with murdering me is because my human right to live trumps their moral values. Morality is subjective. The right to live is not.
@nickys5578
@nickys5578 Жыл бұрын
it is the difference between fighting for the LETTER of the law vs the spirit of the law IE fighting to uphold exactly how the law is written and not upholding the reason we made the law in the first place for society / as an agreement in our current society.
@MatthewCreasey
@MatthewCreasey Жыл бұрын
I don't think I could ever say a murder is morally correct unless it prevents additional serious harm.
@emoneko585
@emoneko585 Жыл бұрын
crazy that people can still get away with the gay panic defense but not the "my father figure has been sexualizing me since i was a child and continues to do so in secret and i just found out" defense
@arsonist127
@arsonist127 Жыл бұрын
this fr
@shelbyjames1894
@shelbyjames1894 Жыл бұрын
Heard dat!
@joshdillon9637
@joshdillon9637 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. They should all be locked up.
@zelltronic
@zelltronic Жыл бұрын
!!!!!!
@SprinkledFox
@SprinkledFox Жыл бұрын
Damn good comment!
@NoveltyTea
@NoveltyTea Жыл бұрын
I was also a victim of my step father taking voyeuristic video of me when I was 13 years old, amongst other abuse incidents. I felt sick watching this. I'm sorry, my empathy is absolutely with Jade. And I resent trying to paint that bastard in any kind of positive light.
@uwewinkler2820
@uwewinkler2820 Жыл бұрын
he was a piece of crap sadly jade made wrong choice
@plumtiara
@plumtiara Жыл бұрын
Anyone who feels bad or supports the step father should be on a watch list. I’m soo sorry you had to go though all that. I hope you are doing well now.
@kenjiyoutube9
@kenjiyoutube9 Жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t paint a murder victim as a sex offender solely based on the words of the murder.
@coldwell830
@coldwell830 3 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏾 couldn't have said it any better
@fabiwilliams4644
@fabiwilliams4644 Жыл бұрын
The exact same thing happened to me by my stepfather but he was a tyrant. He made my life miserable. I on the other hand did not physically harm him. Instead I wrote a letter & told him to confess to my mother what he did. The outcome of this is most of my family turned against me. I've been called a liar & a trouble maker so I guess one way or another the abuse continues
@harrypottah8889
@harrypottah8889 Жыл бұрын
Are you ok now? I hope you can seek healing for yourself, you don’t deserve that
@juliaengelhardt2401
@juliaengelhardt2401 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry this happend to you :(
@watashi_no_proxy
@watashi_no_proxy Жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear this
@kree8iv
@kree8iv Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Fabi. I'm an adult victim of child sexual abuse, and those thoughts live in my head even to today, at 60 years old. I hope you've sought counseling and other measures to mitigate the damage others have caused to you. I didn't start seeing a therapist until age 50, and it was because my teenaged daughter encouraged me to. I'm grateful to her for it.
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they are champion manipulators . My cousins stepfather was a pedo who went to jail. Much of our family have taken pedos side, because he bribed them with beer and food on outings. Please believe the victims.
@rightweaponry908
@rightweaponry908 Жыл бұрын
Not only was he her Father but she was literally dedicating her life to caring for him and this is what he's doing?! And the fact that he was obsessively categorizing an entire archive of photos is extra creepy. It was methodical. What makes it more infuriating is if she did it the legal route he probably would have got a slap on the wrist. I think she did the right thing, she just did it sloppy.
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
What should his punishment have been? The death penalty? Please, do tell.
@758tev6
@758tev6 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 that’s what I want to know too. People get on here to just talk out their a$$.
@SM-McKraken
@SM-McKraken Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 He got his punishment. Done and dusted. Dude you're so sketchy, on here getting ruffled in defense of a pervert pedopile. TF's wrong with you? Almost sounds like this is hitting too close to home... who's boobs do you have on your background, eh? 🤔
@jamiew.6606
@jamiew.6606 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 absolutely. It should've been castration... you and @758tev6 are disgusting.
@SprinkledFox
@SprinkledFox Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 Yes.
@macplow2234
@macplow2234 Жыл бұрын
I honestly have difficulty finding fault with her actions.
@EmperorOfMan
@EmperorOfMan Жыл бұрын
throw her a parade i say
@azazello1784
@azazello1784 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with you? Taking pictures doesn't deserve death sentence.
@GodsServant543
@GodsServant543 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, lots of people have a selective and poor moral compass. If pictures and peeping justify murder… Then sheesh.
@joecolclough3775
@joecolclough3775 Жыл бұрын
@@GodsServant543 pictures and peeping? It’s her own father? Or are you a pedofile too that’s trying to make anothers actions seem insignificant?
@kiwihyunz7452
@kiwihyunz7452 Жыл бұрын
@@GodsServant543 he was literally taking pictures of her when she was 16. That’s basically cp at this point
@vinsanity982
@vinsanity982 Жыл бұрын
No evidence exists of the photos yet just about everyone in the comments section assumes that her story about it is true. In light of the overwhelming evidence of her guilt, it seems very suspicious to me that she doubled down on her complete innocence when she could have presented compelling evidence of a crime of passion. I suspect that she didn’t take that direction because her story was fabricated
@MaddMaddox77
@MaddMaddox77 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Jade, her lawyers needed to go for a different angle for he defence. She clearly wasn't in her right mind after the trauma of discovering her father figure was recording her while naked and keeping those explicit images. Her face when they read the verdict was devastating
@chrystiafreelandscankles548
@chrystiafreelandscankles548 Жыл бұрын
She was a millionaire and couldn’t find decent lawyers.
@danielkim672
@danielkim672 Жыл бұрын
she was in her right mind as she planned and executed the murder. That is what first degree is.
@ioiwut4874
@ioiwut4874 Жыл бұрын
@@chrystiafreelandscankles548 that's what im hung up on. unironically tho. she definitely coulda found a better lawyer but this one obv fkn sucks. im still looking/waiting for the documents with more detail on how the trial went down, but idk how tf this dude couldn't even get her 2nd or 3rd degree. that being said, its not like she's a career criminal. i doubt she ever expected to need a lawyer in a criminal case.
@NobodyUndefined
@NobodyUndefined Жыл бұрын
I do too, I hate how this KZbinr portrays her as such an awful person who had no right to kill this man. I mean he was literally her father and he had disgusting photos of her, my dad is a pedophile too and I get so angry when I think about him because he probably took photos of me when I was a baby/young child and it makes me feel sick to my stomach. If I ever found out he had photos of me like that I can't tell you how horrified and violated I would feel.
@mattb6646
@mattb6646 Жыл бұрын
No she murdered a man when she should have gone to the police with evidence of underage porn. She got the verdict she asked for. Someone doing you wrong doesn't give you a license to kill. Nutbags.
@tinkitinks982
@tinkitinks982 Жыл бұрын
This case makes me sad. The judiciary cannot blame everything on Jade. She’s a victim here. I hope she gets a lighter sentence and gets back to her life.
@MrMuaythai84
@MrMuaythai84 Жыл бұрын
She shouldn’t have taken it so seriously he loved her
@sophiegubler9973
@sophiegubler9973 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMuaythai84 um yeah clearly loved her in a not-so-daughterly way.... wtf kind of comment is this? creep
@Bethany0420
@Bethany0420 Жыл бұрын
Someone claiming to be a victim without evidence isn't a justification to murder or do other horrible things. Being a victim doesn't give people the pass to do whatever they want or committing any crime they want.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 Жыл бұрын
@@Bethany0420 There was evidence of her being a victim, all the photos.
@Bethany0420
@Bethany0420 Жыл бұрын
@N L Wilson no there wasn't, no photos were ever found.
@VixyGirl
@VixyGirl Жыл бұрын
No one would have considered her "innocent" if she had reported it. Even after it came out people clung to how "good" of a person he was. So, most likely they would have shamed her, no doubt claiming she took and sent the photos to seduce him. Honestly, I can't say I would have handled it differently. And if you read this and think I'm out of pocket, you're deluding yourself. Victim blaming, especially when step parents are involved, is way more common than people want to admit.
@syn010110
@syn010110 Жыл бұрын
all these men who have never been abused talking like they know shit. they don't know shit.
@charitysmidutz498
@charitysmidutz498 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. People would say that she was ok with it since she sent it to her boyfriends (you see this comment on SO MANY of these types of things), they would try to make it seem like she allowed him to have them. They would victim shame her for it. And he would get a slap on the wrist. Probably no jail time at all because he had no past criminal record and was a "good guy". We see this stuff happen regularly. And his family and friends would forgive him because otherwise he was "so great".
@JustAnotherBuckyLover
@JustAnotherBuckyLover Жыл бұрын
This. It's so, so easy for people to say "she should have just reported it and she would be seen as the innocent one" but we know damn well that isn't what happens. Even when there's blatant evidence of someone SAing a woman, they STILL get blamed - for being out, for being alone, for wearing the wrong clothes, for the time of day, the place, the date, having had a drink, for "leading him on", for turning him down, for whatever fucking excuse they want to make to victim-blame, in order to excuse or minimise the fact that a person chose to SA someone. I'm not sure that I would kill the person who SAed me (I would have to go after not just one person, but the whole room full of people who cheered him on, and I don't have enough energy to devote to that anymore). But I can totally understand why someone would, and even willingly accept the associated jail time for it.
@psyolytesaille
@psyolytesaille Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm seeing a lot of that shit and "well there still needs to be a punishment served". Foh with that nonsense. Nothing of value was lost here, he got what he deserved at an earlier date.
@angelaj3965
@angelaj3965 Жыл бұрын
Well I hope u would do it a little differently. I hope you'd get away with it.
@deniseyeaisaidit
@deniseyeaisaidit Жыл бұрын
I’m shocked that she’s shocked! You know who wasn’t shocked? Her attorney.
@linmonash1244
@linmonash1244 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I noticed that too. He must have known there was no getting around those txt msg's,
@poponachtschnecke
@poponachtschnecke Жыл бұрын
"Tom is remembered as a great father" - I bet these family members think the photos were planted. Disgusting.
@ioiwut4874
@ioiwut4874 Жыл бұрын
from what i've seen/heard (so far) the family hasn't even denied it... they knew. more than just family knew. a lot of quiet people around that butterfly sanctuary. and he wasn't even the first person from there to be killed! a volunteer at his sanctuary was murder before him. i don't know much about that case tho, but yeah- a lot of this is stranger than normal strange.
@jolesliewhitten6545
@jolesliewhitten6545 Жыл бұрын
To be abused sexually by a parent or stepparent is exactly close to being murdered. The pain NEVER leaves.
@gary-pietz4147
@gary-pietz4147 Жыл бұрын
No doubt about it.
@elainelessack
@elainelessack Жыл бұрын
Jo Leslie Whitten: I liken it to attempted murder of the soul.
@suprlite
@suprlite Жыл бұрын
She wasnt sexually abused though--
@Bethany0420
@Bethany0420 Жыл бұрын
It's not exactly close to being murdered.
@maitlanddarragh5676
@maitlanddarragh5676 Жыл бұрын
You dont let it define you. You move on.
@bonniem5963
@bonniem5963 Жыл бұрын
I empathize with her completely. I hope she's in a better place now in terms of her mental health. I can't imagine that kind of trauma and betrayal. Worse still for it to have been happening that long
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
She murderd someone out of disappointment in them. You are nuts.
@andycrookston3778
@andycrookston3778 Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 you are the ignorant one here,he violated her trust and got away with it for years
@SM-McKraken
@SM-McKraken Жыл бұрын
@@itheuserfirst3186 He was a pedo creep. She was violated, that you don't see that is DISTURBING af. As if you think his actoins were okay? He was a weak, sick man, who greatly betrayed someone who trusted him. There is no room on this over-crowded planet for pedophiles. Serial killers and pedos... reality's tangible, real-world monsters. I don't lament loss of human life when that human is a predatory pervert. How long before he takes it from fantasy-to-reality and some poor girl/teen/woman has to suffer? Personally, I think she did society a favor and all she should have suffered in sentencing is enforced therapy. That we defend offenders so vigorously, while either ignoring or punishing the victim, is to me a damning spotlight on one of humanity's biggest failings.
@P9rkour90
@P9rkour90 Жыл бұрын
She still killed a human being though……
@P9rkour90
@P9rkour90 Жыл бұрын
@@andycrookston3778she ENDED someone’s life….
@gracesamuel786
@gracesamuel786 10 ай бұрын
I've watched the 48 hours episode of this story. According to those reports there was no proof of these pics. She "deleted" them off of his computer. So no one knows for sure these pics ever existed period.
@golfinspired2058
@golfinspired2058 4 ай бұрын
Amazing how so many people bought into her story, well except for the jury. 48 hrs did a great job and people missed several points. Someone said she called a security firm but the fixer was not security and the person that recommended him certainly traveled in different circles to know this guy .One of the sites said she was doing drugs and that would put her in that circle Her lawyers said that several former boyfriends took the pictures. Now it may seem on the surface that it is ok because they are a boyfriend but who lets people take pics of you nude, especially with the internet and having a history of different ones.
@coldwell830
@coldwell830 3 ай бұрын
Most people in this day and age go roll up by emotions, rather than dig deep down and try to get to the bottom of a one side story. It's just beyond me, but hey human will always remain human.
@annoyedaussie3942
@annoyedaussie3942 3 ай бұрын
Actually we do know with reasonable certainty that such photos existed and were taken by boyfriends. We have no idea if the step dad ever saw them though.
@jamescrane7034
@jamescrane7034 3 ай бұрын
@@annoyedaussie3942 We do ? I don't remember any photos being presented as evidence. On the 48hrs version of the case, her lawyers said that different boyfriends took them. Now were any of those boyfriends called to testify or interviewed. Not that I know of. I think they said so it could not be narrowed down to one guy. I think she could have done a better job of lying. If a boyfriend or boyfriends took the pictures, why would they give them to Tom , her stepfather ? Her answer was she did not know how he got them.
@annoyedaussie3942
@annoyedaussie3942 3 ай бұрын
@jamescrane7034 I say reasonable certainty because she really has no reason to lie about that and partners having intimate photos of each other is very common since digital photography. I don't believe Tom had any photos of her based on probability and the motive was something more usual. The police/prosecution had no reason to investigate whether or not that was her real motive because she was already making the case for them proving it's premeditated murder because she claimed to discover these photos on the computer when he was in hospital. I don't believe also because if a man chooses to keep naked images of ladies or teenagers they always keep it of many not just a single person. While I don't download anything I do watch porn sometimes and I certainly watch some variety.
@JBSBemome
@JBSBemome Жыл бұрын
He was violating her most intimate moments, her privacy, USING her body for his own disgusting satisfaction. SHE SAW HIM AS A FATHER, she looked after him, cared for him. I can't IMAGINE the shock and sickness that she must have been feeling in the moment that she found out. Both me and my bf are survivors of CSA, and neither of our abusers ended up in jail, despite us going to the police and telling family members, maybe it's worked out for some people, not for us, and apparently according to this comment section, not for many others either :( And in her case, when she found everything out so suddenly, facing that kind of shock, and horror and disgust all at once, from someone you TRUSTED AND LOVED of course you can't think rationally, and who knows, any day it could have gone beyond just pictures. I understand why she did it, and I honestly can't blame her, maybe I'm a bad person, but I just don't, sorry
@piledriver7238
@piledriver7238 Жыл бұрын
Evidence?
@totallynotalpharius2283
@totallynotalpharius2283 Жыл бұрын
@longjohnthilveryou seem like someone who hates women because they won’t date you because you have a rotten personality and aren’t strong enough to self improve . We’re here for you 🫂
@JBSBemome
@JBSBemome Жыл бұрын
@Long John Thilver In my bf's case it was life or death, he ended up in hospital and still suffers from injuries that stem from it, he could have died from his injuries if it wasn't for good hospital staff and the kind people who helped him, so yes survivors. And in my case, mine said he would kill me on more than one occasion, but thankfully didn't Both of us have life-long trauma and ptsd from what happened, alongside physical injury. So again yes, survivors
@JBSBemome
@JBSBemome Жыл бұрын
@Long John Thilver Okay, I can see there is no point in arguing with you as you clearly have everything all figured out, I'm just glad that you've obviously never had to experience something like that and I hope that you never will
@krafterzdavid1757
@krafterzdavid1757 Жыл бұрын
@Long John Thilver sigma level 1000%
@KatrinaLeFaye
@KatrinaLeFaye Жыл бұрын
Rabid dogs aren't left to wander, they are put down. She did exactly what you said and like old yeller kept it in the family by not farming to it out to others to ignore or deal with.
@syn010110
@syn010110 Жыл бұрын
at least one of y'all gets it
@Ollie-d7
@Ollie-d7 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t physically abuse her, what he did was wrong to someone who viewed him as a father figure and he deserved punishment, like beat him up or smash up his house or whatever. But to say that you think he deserves death is borderline psychotic.
@KatrinaLeFaye
@KatrinaLeFaye Жыл бұрын
@@Ollie-d7 explicit photos of a minor, is most certain something that has one cure for and it isn't therapy or a busted up house.
@nickys5578
@nickys5578 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, But I just wished the poor girl had thought about using his alcohol problems to feed him enough to cause alcohol poisoning or make him drown in his own vomit or stage a fall while 'drunk'. this is why revenge is best served cold, aged, and patient
@beno1129
@beno1129 Жыл бұрын
She did try to farm it out to someone though, but he bailed. I hope her sentence is reduced to second-degree murder and that she serves only a bit of that sentence. I understand her actions, but at the same time she took a life, and there are consequences. But I certainly don't consider her to be a bad person
@missedanneangel9906
@missedanneangel9906 Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Jade in this case. If she went to the authorities they likely wouldn't take her seriously at all.
@Angelstar7774
@Angelstar7774 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, as a person who’s violent r case was thrown out by the DA, at least Jade got justice.
@MyAura
@MyAura Жыл бұрын
It's like the father who beat the shit out of the perpetrator in court after he SA and murdered the father's child who was just a kid. Sometimes, you need to take justice in your own hands because the judicial system might not give the sentence that they deserve.
@worsethanjoerogan8061
@worsethanjoerogan8061 Жыл бұрын
If she brought them his hard drive they'd definitely investigate. Why would she destroy that evidence?
@mrjiggy716
@mrjiggy716 Жыл бұрын
Yet not one single photo was EVER FOUND. She said she deleted them. They forensically inspected his hard drive and testified even if she had deleted them they would have been able to find them. This was an LIE. He was worth millions and she wanted the money.
@ashleyltm
@ashleyltm Жыл бұрын
My sympathy is for Jade. I’m willing to bet he has a lot more skeletons hiding in his closet.
@MatthewCreasey
@MatthewCreasey Жыл бұрын
Maybe. He could just have been super obsessed with her.
@molliemae6855
@molliemae6855 Жыл бұрын
Slime ball had it coming!! His friends and family were “disappointed” at his actions??!! He got what he deserved! To do that to anyone is horrific enough but to your stepdaughter who loved and trusted him?! I hope she gets a super light sentence! There’s lots of evil and sick people in this world that don’t deserve to live!
@17thknight
@17thknight Жыл бұрын
​@jamaljohnson6411we get it, pedo, you approve of raping women
@crispycritter7022
@crispycritter7022 Жыл бұрын
Mollie and her likes are psychos
@nemoxx96xx58
@nemoxx96xx58 Жыл бұрын
@Jamal Johnson pervert detected
@SpinalBJ
@SpinalBJ Жыл бұрын
you're a terrible person and i hope that you eventually grow and realize that u cant just go around killing people who do things you dont like.
@nemoxx96xx58
@nemoxx96xx58 Жыл бұрын
@@SpinalBJ I hope you never get sexually assaulted/abused by a loved one. The man deserved a faith worse than death. Sick pervert
@murielvieux751
@murielvieux751 Жыл бұрын
30 odd years after my assault sometimes I'm still overwhelmed by emotions... the month of the ordeal is a blur, i don't remember anything but alternating feelings... so I would say Jade was not really in a right state of mind when she killed him... she shouldn't have been charged with 1st degree murder. This isn't justice.
@nikobellic570
@nikobellic570 Жыл бұрын
It was premeditated. A lot of time to process events and NOT throw the rest of your life away. She was wealthy and independent - she could have moved to a different area and sought justice for her violation.
@nikobellic570
@nikobellic570 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your ordeal. You're a better spokesperson on understanding the emotions that drove this case. Easy for people removed from it to think rationally.
@MsSaskue360
@MsSaskue360 Жыл бұрын
have to disagree, first of all she commited murder that she planned after seeing the photos, second she was not assulted in this case so makes it alot less justifiable. she took it to far
@heath622
@heath622 Жыл бұрын
He didn't abuse her though?
@sewgood568
@sewgood568 Жыл бұрын
@@heath622 really? He used her image for sexual gratification without her consent, when he was in a parental situation. She was 16. Their whole relationship was a lie. She thought they were friends, family and she spent time and affection caring for a drunk who kept her around for his sexusl pleasure. Her life would have been different without his abuse.
@04Redeemed
@04Redeemed 11 ай бұрын
why does she look so shocked at being found guilty of murder? 😂😂
@suecapra5005
@suecapra5005 Жыл бұрын
Who knows what she was going through. I expect she was truly devastated.
@emilycatherine446
@emilycatherine446 Жыл бұрын
Jade yes may be guilty of murdering him (I personally get why she did it) but does she really deserve or require a harsh sentence as she's not a threat to society, she is VERY unlikely to reoffend and she had a pretty understandable motive. I'm not condoning murder or vigilantes but if anyone has cause its victims of sexual crimes. What they expierence and then live with is already a hefty punishment. That predator of a "stepdad" was more depraved than she is.
@user-ir4gy8nf3u
@user-ir4gy8nf3u Жыл бұрын
Yup, she deserves such a hard sentence. She murdered someone. It wasn't in self defense. Report him instead
@primroseplants
@primroseplants Жыл бұрын
I agree. Give her a light sentence to pay for what she did but she's not a threat to anyone else. It might have been premeditated but the trauma and shock she must have been in... I have no idea what I'd even do in her situation.
@emilycatherine446
@emilycatherine446 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ir4gy8nf3u I didn't say it was self defense or that she should be let off but I personally believe we should save lengthy prison sentences and the tax money that goes into them for the real criminals, the real threats to society. Which she is not. Your mentality is the same mentality that has our prisons full of the wrong type of perpetrators while paedophiles and rapists roam around freely. And I'm not sure where you're from but in my country reporting sexual crimes gets you nowhere; its the least convicted crime along side domestic violence.
@beno1129
@beno1129 Жыл бұрын
I think the judge didn't want to set an example for future victims of sexual (or any) crimes to execute the predator.
@GamingTeaParty
@GamingTeaParty Жыл бұрын
This is that fine balance between judicial bias and mandatory minimums. Do you give judges complete control of the sentence length? Then you're going to get biased sentences. Do you have mandatory minimums? Then you're going to have very sympathetic stories going to jail for a long time. It's a tough balance.
@yzettasmith4194
@yzettasmith4194 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she ended up in such a caretaker role and thinking he was like a bio dad to her because he'd groomed her. To anyone who is downplaying what he did to any degree: I'm happy for you. I'm happy that you don't know what I, Jade, and so many others know. The never ending pain caused by SA. Pain is not even an adequate word for it, but if I tried to explain everything it does to a person this post would take an hour to read. I'm glad you don't know. I wouldn't wish this suffering on anyone.
@warrenwoolridge6171
@warrenwoolridge6171 Жыл бұрын
She's a murderer... let that sink in!
@JustKelso1993
@JustKelso1993 Жыл бұрын
Blahblahblah
@lemonzest_
@lemonzest_ Жыл бұрын
@@JustKelso1993 cry some more
@ebayguy38
@ebayguy38 Жыл бұрын
Huge amounts of People have been abused far worse than having their photo taken. She could have exposed him and shamed him to start. Instead she murdered him because that's who she really is... An awful human being far worse than him.
@WHMStudios
@WHMStudios Жыл бұрын
@@ebayguy38 okay, pedo.
@g00ts
@g00ts Жыл бұрын
As far as I remember there was never any proof of these photos existing. Even if they did that is no cause for murder. This was a premeditated murder.
@ArcheTypeNightcore
@ArcheTypeNightcore Жыл бұрын
So if some old pervert prayed on your daughter for over a decade and while she was just a kid, you would be okay with it? You wouldn't go and murder that son of a bit*h in cold blood? If you don't already have kids of your own I pray to God that you never have them. You're already showing sings of uncaring father. Saying that that was no cause for murder? So according to you she should've just leave him alone and risk possibly being raped by that guy eventually. If that happened it would already be too late. So it's better safe than sorry and she stopped the creep on time before something even more terrible happened to her or maybe to someone else's child.
@genomic_
@genomic_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, detective said there was only one which was a screen saver.
@genomic_
@genomic_ Жыл бұрын
Was there a discussion about who could have set the screen saver?
@gilvettab222
@gilvettab222 Жыл бұрын
When you see that a parental person has violated you in the most disgusting and disheartening way whatever santity that she did have it went out of the door. I feel no pain for his death because he violated a teenager. How many other hidden cameras did he have with other woman he was in relationship with?
@eikoqdupree101
@eikoqdupree101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the sicko. Super predictor of the worse kind. I bet her real father would had like a piece of him too. And the little time if any in prison. I sure some of that population would like some of that action. Even there he a Low life.
@nabaaalkhazraji7250
@nabaaalkhazraji7250 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I understand the murderer and actually believe I would do the exact same what she did! Jade deserves way way way lesser conviction not just for the emotion part but also keeping in mind this creature been violating her since she was a child! And who knows he would have continued on doing it if she didn’t see that screen!! Come on there is no way this is fair verdict!
@danielkim672
@danielkim672 Жыл бұрын
that would be a bad choice and you would spend maybe the rest of your life in jail
@stobiepiel2585
@stobiepiel2585 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same! Normally, they seem alien, not like any human I’ve known. This time, I get it. I don’t think I’d have done this myself, but I cannot know that. And no way would I blame her.
@AccursedHawk
@AccursedHawk Жыл бұрын
Imagine being such a dumb liberal you think killing someone is justified lmao
@danielkim672
@danielkim672 Жыл бұрын
@@stobiepiel2585 you wouldnt blame someone for a premeditated murder? Huh? what is this world we are coming to.
@mjanny6330
@mjanny6330 Жыл бұрын
Your entire faith considers a pedo a "perfect man" lol
@Thekowaikaiju
@Thekowaikaiju Жыл бұрын
Jade Janks sounds like a comic character...
@biancacolon3593
@biancacolon3593 Жыл бұрын
I feel for her so deeply. Justice hardly ever comes for predators especially if she goes to the authorities much late as an adult, especially in the US. You often get blamed for not noticing the signs sooner or deserving it.
@coldwell830
@coldwell830 3 ай бұрын
I gdt your point and i agree, but still doesn't necessarily mean you go out and take matters on your own hands, otherwise the world will be like Jurassic Park.
@bt4582
@bt4582 Жыл бұрын
I wish Jade had gathered up all of the evidence possible, reported him to the police, and then moved away ASAP cutting off all communication. This would still have been so hard for her to deal with but this would have negatively affected him in a lot of ways and she could have hopefully gone on with her own life.
@odapunkt2882
@odapunkt2882 Жыл бұрын
nothing would have happened.. no justice
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 Жыл бұрын
The problem with gathering up all the evidence is there wasn't any.
@firefly88887
@firefly88887 Жыл бұрын
Cutting off all communication may have meant cutting off her resources, she wasn’t a tiny child she was a grown woman who should have gone directly to the police unless she may have had a lot to hide ?
@dollarcostbackpacker1226
@dollarcostbackpacker1226 Жыл бұрын
Obviously no evidence... looking at the comment section, people not thinking just using feelings. Her whole story seems like bullshit.
@anubizz3
@anubizz3 Жыл бұрын
How the heck he get the picture of her and her boyfriend? Suddenly stumble in the Internet, and if you dumb enough to have your pictures in the internet, well to bad not only you step father see your body. You father, step brother, your schoo friend, your employees, your mail man see it to.
@azariomaigwa9260
@azariomaigwa9260 Жыл бұрын
My sympathy is with Jade.
@andreasagas22
@andreasagas22 Жыл бұрын
"In memory of Thomas" I know what she did was very wrong, but that sicko doesn't deserve an "in memory"
@AncientCrustacean
@AncientCrustacean Жыл бұрын
Seriously.
@ioiwut4874
@ioiwut4874 Жыл бұрын
amen
@remi2317
@remi2317 Жыл бұрын
Very stupid that she might get 25 years in prison when she was a victim.
@PrayTellGaming
@PrayTellGaming Жыл бұрын
she got 25 because she didnt present any evidence of the pictures, no proof of him being a predator or anything like that. the only proof there is, is that she killed him.
@hiholly4131
@hiholly4131 Жыл бұрын
It is what it is. She did the world a favour. And saved any number of other young girls. Good on ya, Jade!!
@mollybrolly4717
@mollybrolly4717 Жыл бұрын
I felt so sorry for her!. I remember hearing of this... Sod him... I would've done worse to him. He got off easy, if she WAS my daughter, I'd be sleeping happily in my cell...
@commandbrawler9348
@commandbrawler9348 Жыл бұрын
murder is not the answer to problems, it makes you even worse or at least as bad as the the person who you wanted revenge on.
@RyansArachnids
@RyansArachnids Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I would have destroyed that man and slept happily in a cell
@Zepster77
@Zepster77 Жыл бұрын
How weird do you have to be to kill someone just for sneaking pictures of you?? Hope she enjoys a long long vacation in the crossbar motel!!!
@Hack_The_Planet_
@Hack_The_Planet_ Жыл бұрын
Sydney, Australian police will be curious about your post
@brynadoodle
@brynadoodle Жыл бұрын
@@Hack_The_Planet_ she didn’t send him those pics wtaf?? most were secret pics from his hidden cameras. Seriously wtf
@pebsholmes2041
@pebsholmes2041 Жыл бұрын
This is my 1st time hearing of this. After what you report of him as to why he was murdered, I don't believe he should have been honored with your memorial. That's just my thoughts & opinion though. She should've just confronted him & if she wanted to inflicted some kind of bodily harm, maybe just a beating then call the police. I really can't say but I'm not entirely sure I could kill someone over that. Good job as always. 👍🏼
@tracisr
@tracisr Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mrillmakeit
@mrillmakeit Жыл бұрын
It's never mentioned that the alleged photos were never seen by police or investigators bc Jade destroyed the hard drive. It's also a little weird that the means of getting these photos was never found, either. No evidence of hidden cameras or suspicious behavior reported or anything? It's easy to be outraged at an abuser..as we all should be..but harder for us to consider that this was just simply murder.. We love a salacious story with an easy-to-identify villain. I dont think any of us will ever truly know but feels like there's more to this story...just saying
@dollarcostbackpacker1226
@dollarcostbackpacker1226 Жыл бұрын
I called bullshit as soon as i heard it... if she not participating, how did he get the pictures?
@pavlovsdogman
@pavlovsdogman Жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy was essentially using her social media and publicity pics as something to "beat off" to, yeah its sleazy and creepy but its not actually a crime and its certainly not deserving of death. Im stunned by how many comments think she did the right thing! Sorry people but we cant police who secretly fantasizes about us, thats called thought policing and its dystopian!
@BitchlessWitch
@BitchlessWitch Жыл бұрын
@@pavlovsdogman naked photos of a 16 year old is CP - but yeah, she should have left the punishment in the care of law enforcement.
@sabrinaa1235
@sabrinaa1235 Жыл бұрын
If this is true, I’m shocked he didn’t mention it…thats such an important detail that would completely change my opinion on the case
@BitchlessWitch
@BitchlessWitch Жыл бұрын
@@sabrinaa1235 he did mention it. i took it from the video.
@TheIGITnBLUE
@TheIGITnBLUE Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have it in me to murder someone even in that position -- because I don't deserve to ruin my life over some scumbag.(Except if someone were to flat out come at me with a weapon) But, I understand how this panned out. It's disgusting and unfortunate.
@TheMary0831
@TheMary0831 Жыл бұрын
It would have been way more satisfying (to me) to turn the evidence into the police.
@vincent67239
@vincent67239 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! The only reasonable comment in this entire comment section. Good lord, are people bloodthirsty.
@TheIGITnBLUE
@TheIGITnBLUE Жыл бұрын
@@TheMary0831 I feel very much the same. (I did that before with someone else's case, and it was indeed satisfying)
@SomeGuyFromOK
@SomeGuyFromOK Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think she should get off with a “temporary insanity” deal. Her “dad” preyed on her. She took action. Good for her.
@gilessteve
@gilessteve Жыл бұрын
You're condoning murder? Really?
@Hammy12345
@Hammy12345 Жыл бұрын
@@gilessteve the pos deserved it
@FlamingBasketballClub
@FlamingBasketballClub Жыл бұрын
@@gilessteve Sexism against men is normalized nowadays
@MatthewCreasey
@MatthewCreasey Жыл бұрын
In general it is not good for society to allow vigilante action. State prosecutions are society taking action, the victim is secondary to this. It is the basis for our legal system.
@TARDIStraveller96
@TARDIStraveller96 Жыл бұрын
I get she murdered him but I can't help but feel sorry for her, what she discovered is disgusting and abhorrent. I'm not a woman and I can't begin to imagine how heart stopping it must be to actually discover this kind of thing for a woman, but I can't say I feel bad for her stepdad at all.
@dolomedestenebrosus9564
@dolomedestenebrosus9564 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to be a woman to imagine how that feels, just imagine discovering your own parent has been secretly taking and collecting private photos of your body for their own sexual purpose since you were 16. I think the horror and heartbreak would be the same regardless of your gender.
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 Жыл бұрын
@@dolomedestenebrosus9564 Right imagine your stepdad, someone you consider a father and are spendy your life taking care of is doing this. Is it easier to feel the revulsion if it's your father.
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 Жыл бұрын
She was a sadistic killer.
@statisticserinokripperino
@statisticserinokripperino Жыл бұрын
@@dolomedestenebrosus9564 exactly that
@chrisgwynne1586
@chrisgwynne1586 Жыл бұрын
There's more to this than meets my eye. Whilst Jade presumebly started out with goood intention in looking after Tom the above story does not mention how that relationship developed. Did it become toxic to the point that Jade wanted out. Some people on this thread suggest that the photo's didn't exist hence Jades motives were undefined. Certainly a combination of a developing toxic relationship and discovery of indecent photo's may well have snapped Jade into reckless behaviour. Her planning was poor, indicating confusion and uncertainty on her behalf, hope she gets reduced sentence if legally possible.
@once-again-to-zelda
@once-again-to-zelda 11 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that we don't get Tom's side of the story. I believe the photos were real and I believe Jade, but due process requires that the accused be allowed to defend themselves. We aren't able to give Jade full credibility without that process, which makes the situation INCREDIBLY difficult. Regardless, there aren't many mitigating processes for murder to go unpunished. Best example is the case of Brigitte Harris, which was technically manslaughter - and if you read what happened in those circumstances, the hardest heart in the world wouldn't have given her prison time.
@CassFernando
@CassFernando Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for her, all she did was to care for that bastard! And what he did was unforgivable.
@firefly88887
@firefly88887 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you a story a girl I knew once told me , as a little girl of 13 neglected, often home alone with no food in the house, the widower next door would feed her dinner , buy school books and new clothes also had so much more time for her than her parents and he never laid a finger on her until she was 16 . She got a new motor bike and college fees paid for , her wedding and she even visited him the night before her wedding for money for her honey moon - I stopped speaking to her 25 years ago when she told me this , I couldn’t figure out why she wouldn’t report such a pervert to the police, I mean what about other young women who might fall victim to him ? l since learnt he continued to help her in life - I heard that he left his whole estate to her , his 6 bedroom house and over1.5 million. So sometimes things are not as they seem!
@carolynslist6118
@carolynslist6118 Жыл бұрын
I would have lost my mind, too, and I don’t think people understand the level of violation by her stepfather
@kari6208
@kari6208 Жыл бұрын
she did what no one else would do, props to her
@abunchahooey
@abunchahooey Жыл бұрын
How did the stepfather acquire photos that Jade sent to boyfriends? And is it true she destroyed the photos before anybody could corroborate her story? Those are some pretty important questions, and they were worth a mention in this story, I would think.
@gushung0
@gushung0 Жыл бұрын
Anything one deletes on their computer can be recovered by forensic analysts. This is why you microwave SD cards or hard drives & not just delete them if you truly want something gone. That evidence didn't exist.
@JamesiaInc
@JamesiaInc Жыл бұрын
Something tells me that Coffeyhouse wasn't interested in the truth on this one.
@snopure
@snopure Жыл бұрын
The photos stay on your phone. The files don't leave your phone when you text them to someone else. All he would need is access to her phone. Many parents have access to their teenagers' phones. Even later on as an adult, Janks may have thought nothing of her step-dad knowing the password to unlock her phone.
@cutecuteoldold
@cutecuteoldold Жыл бұрын
He could have accessed her mobile or computer Don’t need to be a genius She may have been like him , careless She never expected him to access her phone or computer
@mikesanders8621
@mikesanders8621 Жыл бұрын
A great deal of important information was left out of this video. I'd recommend people read the actual reporting on the case.
@daisiesorchidsholly
@daisiesorchidsholly Жыл бұрын
It's so saddening that Jade is paying a high price, but it's questionable what her stepfather would have gotten had he been taken to court. I don't know if all the pics added up would have equaled a lot of time or what. It's sad that so many victims of various predatory crimes cannot trust the "justice" system, so they feel the need to take matters into their own hands.
@ioiwut4874
@ioiwut4874 Жыл бұрын
given how much the community saw him as a saint, the fact that he's in his final years, and now a pity-case with his (mostly self inflicted) health issues... yah he woulda probably died before they even considered a trial. if she was able to show proof to ANYONE of those photos before reacting, maybe something coulda been done... but even then i betcha the dude woulda just OD'd and cross the road, to get to the other slide.
@charleneduplessis5640
@charleneduplessis5640 Жыл бұрын
@@ioiwut4874 Apparently she destroyed the computer with the photos sounds abit fishy and the neighbors said that they were unusually close. And why did she moved next door to him if he and her mother is divorced?
@phoenixrising4995
@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын
This isn't murder, this is a community service. This guy had litteral CP on his computer.
@piledriver7238
@piledriver7238 Жыл бұрын
She deleted the evidence! What part of that don't you bleeding hearts understand?! Her lawyers couldn't do jack sh*t. Also, considering she's a murderer, she likely lied about the photo's to begin with, which makes her a lying "fake victim" as well.
@aservantinbabylon
@aservantinbabylon Жыл бұрын
Grow up. We are in the metoo age where 1000s of men are being false accused, imprisoned and killed on NO EVIDENCE AT ALL. Such as Amber Heard, the Virginia Tech gang rape hoax, Brian Banks, Justice Kavanaugh, etc.......Not only are women getting justice, they are getting so much justice that 1000s of men are having their lives ruined for bullshit.
@danialethompson9406
@danialethompson9406 Жыл бұрын
This story is horrific and I can't imagine having somebody I am supposed to trust and believe and run to when I'm sick, hurt and scared do that to me. I can't absolutely fathom it. But you know you know she did what she did because that was the only option she felt she had. You like to say, go to the police and talk to the family and do this and do that. But as a former law enforcement official, I am going to tell you that nothing 99% of the time is ever done or will it be done. As far as I'm concerned, he's one less piece of scum roaming the earth, hurting other people for his own gain and self gratification!
@Sunshine-nq5rv
@Sunshine-nq5rv Жыл бұрын
I came here to say the same exact thing!
@yuniel2010
@yuniel2010 Жыл бұрын
One less scum but she will still be going to prison. Worth it? That will be for her to know since she ruined her carrier and will be the one in prison.
@JordanHowellMusic
@JordanHowellMusic Жыл бұрын
Damn….harsh but honest, I appreciate that. Can I ask you, as you said you’re former law enforcement, do you think that someone taking this sort of thing into their own hands….is okay? I mean look from an emotional point of view I get it, but as I said in another comment on here, I can’t see myself justifying murder because of sexual assault …as I’ve been through some trauma and assault myself, I feel PERSONALLY - I’ve gotten more from forgiving the violators than I would have if I created more violence and trauma by say killing the people involved….I mean it’s hindsight and a completely different situation so I still look at all angles with pause and compassion best I can.
@JordanHowellMusic
@JordanHowellMusic Жыл бұрын
Also that is said with years of drug abuse, and then therapy, and some clean time afterwards, as hhindsight “enhancing” ….without this time in between , yeah, who knows what I might have been feeling . But I do remember having a kind of spiritual feeling in the hospital after the one violent assault where it just kind of appeared to me that forgiveness was the way…but again that’s someone who’s been in therapy for various things since age 8 so maybe I’m lucky , now that I think about it. Idk
@itheuserfirst3186
@itheuserfirst3186 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanHowellMusic The fact that you have to ask if they are justified says it all. Of course they're not justified. Her life was not in danger.
@Spencerlayne
@Spencerlayne Жыл бұрын
Poor girl. She did the world a favour
@griselbaez8696
@griselbaez8696 Жыл бұрын
she didnt do herself a favor though
@yesiamthatgradeAcunt_
@yesiamthatgradeAcunt_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I feel the same way as well.
@Spencerlayne
@Spencerlayne Жыл бұрын
@@griselbaez8696 for sure. I suspect she'll appeal under the grounds of not being her self after finding out what happened to her. Forgot what it's called but it basically means that you're so enraged that you aren't thinking right. And it'll be reduced to second degree. I live in the UK. So we don't have first degree or second degree. We just have murder or manslaughter. And our system weighs up the facts and why some one done what they done rather than just saying she cold bloody murdered him. A judge in the UK wouldn't have agreed with what she did but he would certainly understand. And she would have gotten about 8 years. Out in 4. The jury would have been on her side too. Too much protection for pedos in this world. If he was taking pictures of her when she was 16 sure as hell would have been taking pictures as a child too.
@listey
@listey Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous point of view. There's no excuse for taking matters into her hands like she did.
@Spencerlayne
@Spencerlayne Жыл бұрын
@@listey my only gripe about my comment or view is that he should have felt pain and had a really bad way out. God knows I would have hurt him before I took his life.
@staceepayne8787
@staceepayne8787 Жыл бұрын
We are suppossed to protect the innocent yet we don't! Abusers and predators walk free! No wonder Jade took justice in her own hands!
@Ll-ij2jh
@Ll-ij2jh Жыл бұрын
She never tried to report this to the police, she decided to go down one route and one route only. She deserves to be in jail for murdering someone. She’s not a innocent party, to suggest so is ludicrous
@abhikrajan8904
@abhikrajan8904 Жыл бұрын
@@Ll-ij2jh police never handles these cases well.
@blackthornwhitethorn6679
@blackthornwhitethorn6679 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ll-ij2jh there's always apologists like you just jumping at the chance to make excuses for abusers and predators, placing yourself on some sort of pedestal of false morality. You obviously live a very privileged life if you think the justice system does any good for the majority of sexual abuse victims. Get off your high horse. You're associating yourself with nasty people when you make excuses for them. There was no justice served here, and that man deserved everything he got, as does every predator. Stop apologizing for abusers and a failure of a justice system, and do better.
@blackthornwhitethorn6679
@blackthornwhitethorn6679 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ll-ij2jh you're really, REALLY sick
@voyager1977.2
@voyager1977.2 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of vigilante justice, because it is not professional and could risk anybody. The only thing justifies to kill him is via self defense, but in this case it wasn't. If she goes to the authorities instead, she could make the best choice.
@malachi-
@malachi- Жыл бұрын
Just like everybody else, you don't make the simple statement... there were NO pics found! Everybody believes and goes with what the murderer says?
@yukiminsan
@yukiminsan Жыл бұрын
if you're going to do something like this never ever tell anyone or ask for help and always do it after going to sleep calming down and making an actual plan this was such an easy job it was practically gifted to her but she didn't have the balls to do it alone
@Ollie-d7
@Ollie-d7 Жыл бұрын
Ahh giving out murder tips online, what a lovely person you are. If you’re thinking of taking someone’s soul remember to hide evidence guys! Or maybe don’t be a scum bag and kill someone
@annehorrigan570
@annehorrigan570 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Poor planning did her in.
@danielkim672
@danielkim672 Жыл бұрын
All these professional murderers on KZbin LOL. How many did you and Anne kill?
@nickys5578
@nickys5578 Жыл бұрын
yeah poor girl didn't think about using his alcohol problems to feed him enough to cause alcohol poisoning or make him drown in his own vomit or stage a fall while 'drunk'. this is why revenge is best served cold, aged, and patient
@Ollie-d7
@Ollie-d7 Жыл бұрын
@@nickys5578 psychopath
@peach-e2470
@peach-e2470 Жыл бұрын
We can never know how we'll react to situations. My father grabbed one of the police officers firearm and aimed at my uncle for molesting me as a child. ( we had cops guard my door and hallway) The cops had tackled my father to the ground the bullet missed my uncle by inches. I don't recall why my uncle was in the same hospital section as me after the doctor examination. Maybe it was due to me or it was the nearest hospital But emotions were extremely high.
@utubecop11
@utubecop11 Жыл бұрын
What happened to your dad? What happened eventually to your uncle?
@peach-e2470
@peach-e2470 Жыл бұрын
@@utubecop11 no charges were filed against my father and my uncle went to prison.
@utubecop11
@utubecop11 Жыл бұрын
@@peach-e2470 thank fuck, it seems like a rare case of things actually going the right way for once. I'm glad your dad didn't get charged and I hope your uncle's time in prison was horrible
@bucketree
@bucketree Жыл бұрын
Crime of passion… I don’t blame her at all, until you’ve been there how could we possibly imagine.
@ghostfromanotherworld
@ghostfromanotherworld Жыл бұрын
I feel like I have to be the unpopular opinion here but Jade destroyed the hard drive of his computer. There was never any real evidence found that he actually had photos of her, nor any explanation of how he got access to photos she sent to ex boyfriends. I've not heard any proof either that any hidden cameras were ever found in his home or hers. If she truly is a victim then I feel for her and I feel bad doubting but something doesn't add up here. I can understand someone wanting to destroy those kind of photos but wouldn't she want to keep that evidence on the chance she needed it? Girl seems to have a whole history of other issues too. I just don't know about this one. I want to feel bad for her but something just feels way off about the whole situation. People tend to bandwagon hate against men accused of any form of sexual abuse and rightfully so. But that also makes it an easy out for someone who committed a murder and is desperate to get away with it, sadly. Again, not saying this is the case but .. I just don't know what to think.
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