SHE'S A MONSTER!! - Game of Thrones S8 Episode 5 Reaction

[@jmeds94]

It really warms my heart to see a reaction where there's actually concern for the lives of the nameless common people. A good number of fans were cheering Daenerys on as they watched her rain fire on the innocent to make her way to the enemy. They couldn't get her out of their mind as the hero of the story and justified her actions instantly. We live side by side with some very messed up, childish people. The real challenge is being able to shed tears for even Cersei. And you passed that test as well.

[@lug23]

Varys wanted to poison Daenerys, the girl from the kitchen tells him that she doesn't want to eat, Varys responds that they will try again at dinner, Dany finds out about this and that's why she executes him.

[@b-six-twelve]

We don’t know that that was the treason they found out about. They never show or tell us what gets him caught.

[@stephanielomeli6950]

no it’s because he was conspiring to put Jon on the throne and tyrion told her but yes he was trying to poison her

[@Necrothep]

Yeah, she didn't know. If she did, she would have arrested him sooner and also said his name first not Jon.

[@brianreid5891]

Wow! All the times ive watched GOT and never picked up they Varys was trying to poison her! Thanks for this! GOT just keeps giving every time u rewatch! 👍🏻

[@suvijii841]

Yes, Varys tried to poison her, but the reason she killed him was because of the treason. She told him earlier that if he'd ever betray him she'd burn him alive.

[@queenpersephone9685]

Lena is such a gifted actress. She makes you feel how she wants you to feel. Such an incredible performance

[@deltablaze77]

In the beginning of the episode, the little girl comes to tell Varys that Daenerys won't eat, and he says "We'll try again at supper." He was trying to poison her.

[@sydhamelin1265]

Love how D&D turned one of the most brilliant minds in GoT into "she's on to us? well, let's just try again until I get caught."

[@sydhamelin1265]

@@TheDream6842 She suspected, which is why she wasn't eating, which makes me wonder why he'd keep trying that way if she was aware of it? but i don't recall it well enough, and yeah, she really didn't like Jon being supported.

[@luigicavallo270]

R.I.P. Sandor Clegane! The Stark Girls would have never survived if it weren't for you!

[@NovaLena22]

Neither would Tormund, or even Joffrey. Yikes!! The Hound was a great character.

[@luigicavallo270]

​@@NovaLena22Aye, he was! My favorite! Let's not thank him for Joffrey, tho...

[@pjfsr7024]

And both girls thanked him, they knew what he did for them.

[@MMKOCH200]

In S2 outside of Qarth Dany says “when my Dragons are grown we will burn cities to the ground, if you refuse us we will burn yours first”

[@abcdefg2174]

Yeah she was such a brat in season 2 lol

[@Nathan-yw4yj]

I hate danys storyline in season 2. Her Qarth storyline was so different in the books. Dany is different in the books in general.

[@avonbarksdale91]

@@Nathan-yw4yj guess what?

[@johnwalkeristhatdude3018]

FACTS ON FACTS ON FACTS

[@MMKOCH200]

@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 100%

[@drsavage3262]

I'm the words of Ramsey "If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention!"

[@TeddieSage1987]

"Cersei was nasty, but she wasn't "I have slain a lot of people" nasty." Excuse me, Steejo? Forgot about the moment she had the whole church blew up along with Margaery? 😅😅😅😅

[@kaiwestbrook]

To be completely honest that was to stop a growing religious cult. Sure it was wrong (especially as I liked Margaery) but still not fully similar to slaying an entire city of innocent civilians with dragon fire and a savage army.

[@TeddieSage1987]

@@kaiwestbrook I think Cersei and Daenarys were opposite sides of a same coin, to be honest with you.

[@AdamFeuerauge]

And immediately sipped a cup of wine while smiling

[@DarthKay093]

@@AdamFeuerauge and didn't even seem to care when Tommen committed suicide. She made Tommen her own son feel trapped so he ended his life

[@CatotheE]

Along with her uncle and her cousin.

[@suvijii841]

I think it was beautiful that Suzy cried when Cersei & Jaime died. It shows that she understood the characters. Like she said, ot was true love, no matter how twisted it was. Also, great acting from Lena Headey, showing the vulnerability of Cersei. In the end she was just a scared little girl. Also props to Suzy for seeing Daenerys' character the way it was meant to be. She didn't just snap all of the sudden, the signs were always there.

[@mamakat114]

Yes, they sure were. Props to Suzy for seeing it earlier the first time watching the series. It took me about the 3rd or 4th time that I finally saw it early.

[@maelguiraud3568]

@@Subtr0nic But yet she didn't burn everything.

[@malifex9922]

"Cersei was nasty, but she didn't slaughter a load of people nasty." You must have forgotten her wiping out the Tyrell familial lines by doing a terrorism to the Great Sept of Baelor and killing thousands. 😄

[@Raminagrobisfr]

She did separation of church and state.

[@GenkoNoMiko]

Not to mention, Cersei is actually the reason why all the innocent people were in the City to begin with. 😅 She was essentially using them as human shields.

[@WLDB]

A sept full of radicals and enemies isn’t a city.

[@assadarlingtoni]

why yall acting like cersei is supposed to be daenerys' role model. Dany did way worse cuz she wasnt a villain before

[@kobarsos82]

Maybe a few hundred. Still nothing compared to king's landing population that were burned alive in this episode. Whatever the rest of the series may have made us think of Danny, this episode was in fact more than enough to make her 100 times worse than her father ever could be.

[@alexandermildener7220]

Daenerys did care about the people at one point, but her lust for power and her conga line of trauma (losing Jorah, Rhaegal and Missandei in rapid succession) eroded her compassion. She was also lashing out. She was abused by Viserys most of her life, lost her baby, lost Drogo, lost Barristan, Jorah, Missandei and two dragons whom she loved like her children. She was complete blind rage. Ultimately, one can argue she became the most evil character in the show. However, she wasn't just burning Kings Landing because of Missandei. The real tragedy of her character is she became exactly what she was fighting against.

[@kimberlywebster6057]

Wow… I am borrowing “conga line of trauma,” ok?

[@b-six-twelve]

Also makes the companions who believed in her and died supporting her cause even more tragic.

[@seth_fitzgerald]

That’s why I feel for her. She’s the most tragic character

[@Nattiie]

I don’t think it was lust for power more like her family lineage and the fact everyone in GOT is like their family.

[@alexandermildener7220]

@@Nattiie Thing is there were also some truly great and benevolent Targaryen rulers.

[@SerbAtheist]

'This isn't how war goes!' This is exactly how war goes.

[@kingi-sick2485]

Not true. War crimes is a thing.

[@janeathome6643]

Danaerys and Grey Worm had an agreement that it was going to be a take no prisoners situation; she had no intention of stopping at the bells.

[@StanleyMabonga]

Yep. Her orders were kill everyone. It worked extremely well when Tywin did it. But Dany is a woman so she is judged differently.

[@user-fq7el1mt5j]

@@StanleyMabongatywin was also judged because of it. Dany is judged not just because she is a woman, its because she always say she will “break the wheel” and give people “justice” and “save” them. Guess what? Once you start branding yourself as someone “good” and did not live up to it, people will judge you.

[@johnwaffle7917]

@@user-fq7el1mt5jyup. Everyone knew who and what Tywin was. He never pretended to be anything other than who he was. Dany was way worse.

[@kib_h20]

"This is not how war goes" little did suzy know...

[@karenchae1]

Great reaction! I agree with you 100%. I watched it when it first came out and have always felt really bad about how people were so mean spirited with the very public comments about the writers.

[@xKayNee]

It's not about love for Jon, it's just in his nature to do the right thing and be honourable. He's exactly like Ned Stark in that regard. Him and Tyrion are both trying to help calm Daenyrys while also obliging by her decisions. Plus he doesn't want to rule. And Dany has worked so hard for the throne, for it to be taken away from her by someone she loved would be devastating.

[@Rigomortis84]

😂 Dany was a petulant brat since season 2!! Anybody mad about the ending either named their dogs or kids Khaleesi or forgot they were watching Game of Thrones and not some Disney shite! She LITERALLY threatened to burn a city to the ground in Season 2! She's literally been more thirsty for power then anyone in the show! Even Cersei!

[@Dinozai]

Dany felt claim over the North because how much she sacrificed to save it, yet they didn’t want her to rule. Which you’re not about to use my armies and my dragons and then throw me to the side like it meant nothing. -Dany’s POV

[@DarthKay093]

+ do ppl forget that she lost one of her dragons to go and save the group that went beyond the wall to get proof so that Cerise would send help up North and it meant nothing and by saving Jon and the other men that allowed the Night King to gain a way to break down the Wall!

[@brigidscott4373]

You do realize that Danny’s Father killed Ned’s Father and Brother that’s why the North don’t Trust Danny!

[@dahliadaydream]

Ya but the contrast is that Jon Snow would save everyone without expect anything in return. That is the mark of a good leader who ACTUALLY cares about people.

[@devyn1772]

😂😂😂

[@Dinozai]

@@dahliadaydream The contrast is that Jon never had anything to offer except his warrior spirit to offer in the first place 😂. He was always getting saved by someone. Let him had lived the same life as Dany and have the same experiences and then ask Jon the same question.

[@michelbrewer-yf1ny]

I saw all the signs of Danny long ago. Great reaction, I felt that

[@stevencolatrella3257]

You get that Varys was trying to poison Daenerys right? And that she hadn't done anything wrong yet? Sge had come north, sacrificed two dragons and her two closest friends. So she killed the guy who wa trying to kill her.

[@mauro5831]

Don’t tell my you are on Dany’s side 😭😭😭

[@Immundissime1]

Well, not particularly true or at least debatable. She did crucify slavers masters and killed Tarly family i.e. It might be just but was it right or wrong to do is for everyone to decide for themselves.

[@slis3578]

It's not like she specifically warned the guy, knowing his track record.

[@eox1144]

@@Immundissime1 The Tarly family absolutely deserved it. They have been the Tyrells' vassals for centuries - and then when Cersei kills the queen, her father, her brother and virtually destroys house Tyrell, what does Randall do? He sides with Cersei when he should've been the first one to lead the war against her for murdering his liege and their entire family. He absolutely deserved Daenerys' wrath - even Tyrion points out to him how flexible and fickle his loyalty is.

[@abcdefg2174]

​@@eox1144Nah, he had a good point, Dany is a foreign woman demanding to control people in a land that she knows nothing about

[@Didi-st9ui]

It’s so interesting to see the reaction of binge watchers vs the real time watchers. The binge watchers seem to more easily see the Daenerys foreshadowing. My group had a couple of people that called the mad queen turn as early as season 3 while most defended her to the end. The binge watchers also don’t get nearly as angry at the ending. They agree it’s too rushed and needs to be more fleshed out but none of the rage. I hope you enjoyed the series; I’ve rarely been so emotionally invested in a series. If you ever want to deep dive there are some crazy but fun theories out there. Mermen, The Great Northern conspiracy, jaqen h'ghar is syrio forel, the list goes on and on.

[@avonbarksdale91]

@@Leo_ofRedKeep yeah she wanted to burn down Kings Landing from the jump.

[@Didi-st9ui]

That was the exact moment for me as well! It had very Third Reich overtones.@@Leo_ofRedKeep

[@timethiustheally32]

As a binge watcher, I agree. It's easier to remember the signs when you absorb it all back to back

[@austincaucci]

I never understood the people who said this was out of character for dany to do that. It wasn’t throughout the whole show it was leading to this. Fans just loved her too much to see it

[@daveruble5150]

Bless Suzy's pure heart.

[@afonsomatos2025]

I'm so glad with the way you reacted to Cersei's death. It not being satisfactory was precisely the point and very much on par with George R.R. Martin's writing who has said in the past that he hopes to make his readers feel various emotions in regards to the conclusion of his villains' arcs. And Cersei is the most relevant human villain in the story. Also, Lena Headey really is so incredibly talented, no other actor in the series would have pulled off portraying a nasty character such as Cersei for 8 seasons and still manage to make the audience sad about her demise.

[@johntheX]

Um dos melhores papéis de sempre. Lena Heady nunca ganhou um globo ou um emmy. Extraordinária. Expressava fúria, inveja, amor, vingança, luto, às vezes em segundos e sem falar. Senti sempre empatia por ela reconhecendo ao mesmo tempo todas as coisas horríveis que fez.

[@Axel_Kasai]

Well, she already lost two dragons. gotta make the most of the last one 😂

[@Conviction.Of.The.Light.]

war doesnt determine who's right, only who's left

[@thebackyardbear]

Yes... It was written in her character all along. Those that did not see it... did not WANT to see it.

[@bigw725]

it’s nice to finally see someone react to jaime and cersei like i did.

[@versacethegreat9356]

I think Suzy the only reactor I’ve seen cry for CERSEI 😭

[@senordetodoslostroles5228]

It's funny how there are people who, even reading the books, where it is much more noticeable that she will soon end up crazy, defend her and never stopped to think that she could end up like that.

[@sydhamelin1265]

I haven't seen complaints THAT she turned, but HOW she turned, and the depiction of her turning. It was slapdash.

[@johnnyactionspacepnk]

Steejo's comment "The coin is in the air" is one of the BEST comments I've seen in any reaction video for this great show.

[@SerbAtheist]

Yeah, like 90% of the reactors didn't even realize that this was the moment when Dany's morality was gonna be decided.

[@Nebulaxray]

It's a first time I see such a reaction to Cersei dying.. 😅 It's sad about Jaimie, but Cersei deserves no tears, that woman was twisted evil.

[@SerbAtheist]

What did Cersei do that was evil?

[@halenjulianna365]

@@SerbAtheistb r o

[@PrettyDimeTheWordsmith]

😂yall Crack me up so much. When the hound jumped, "he probably didn't wanna live with one eye..." You're so cute lol

[@rachelmaxwell5936]

I’m impressed you caught on quickly to what Daenerys would become. So many people were caught off guard, but if you really pay attention you can see it coming, a thousand miles away. She was never supposed to be a girl boss heroine who saves Westeros; she was supposed to be a tragic downfall.

[@avonbarksdale91]

I appreciate you for seeing Dany for who she’s always been. The hate for season 8 comes from THAT SCENE. She was on that dragon by herself with no one to tell her NO. Dany is still one of my favorite characters and her burning down kings landing because she was about to start new. It was a RELEASE lol Those people in KL and Westeros aren’t her people in her eyes. They don’t like her anyway!!! Great REACTION!!!!

[@stephanielomeli6950]

I like that she burned it all It’s understandable, her rage, her sadness, drogon feeling it too but after, the whole hitler scene was just terrible it didn’t make sense

[@avonbarksdale91]

@@stephanielomeli6950 She wasn’t hitler she’s a Targaryen. She was channeling Aegon The Conqueror and Khal Drogo. There’s a reason Robert was trying to have her snuffed out in season 1. She’s a Targaryen at the head of a Khalasar…..

[@annteross]

1:04:21 wow of all the reactions I've seen from this episode since 2019, it's the first one where someone cries over Cersei's death lol

[@b-six-twelve]

Honestly the show does more to flesh out Dany’s trauma history but it’s easy to look at Cersei as someone shaped by trauma too. Lost her beloved mother during her youngest sibling’s birth. Her father is cold and distant. Her twin is a golden boy. Her youngest sibling who, while the scapegoat, gets the attention from her dad she so desperately craves. Her husband is obsessed with a dead woman and doesn’t love her. She has interest in power and politics but due to her gender is regularly overlooked most of her life until she starts using malicious practices to claim it for herself. She can’t seem to get out of her own way. She ends up alienating all the people close to her. All of her plans seem to backfire. Honestly, Cersei got a little flanderized at the end of the series (as did most characters) but she is the character who reminds me of people from my own life due to how her ego trips her up.

[@morpheusjones4753]

The only thing that I truly felt sorry for Cersei about was her losing Myrcella.

[@b-six-twelve]

@@DavidCarradinesBelt You’re a bit nutty, eh? Where did I say Cersei is excused? I’m just saying I can understand Suzy crying about her death. She’s a human being we’ve gotten to know over the course of 8 seasons. She wasn’t good, but that doesn’t mean we never understand her or feel nothing when she and Jaime get crushed. Same as Daenerys.

[@harryballsak1123]

I remember all the people were saying she became the mad queen out of nowhere so bad writing and I said have you guys actually been watching the show? There were signs in SEASON 1 and in EVERY season.

[@MeShell138]

Jon’s men were ra**** and pillaging too. But to be fair Cersei did use her citizens as a shield and trapped them inside the gates!

[@RyoHazuki224]

Thank you, you're one of the few that saw Dany's rage and weren't as surprised by it as nearly everyone else was. So many people were like "What?? This is a sudden Mad Queen turn! I did not see this coming at all!" Haha bullshit, the signs were clear to see even from several seasons ago that she is rash and will do crazy things.

[@shonquesanders4232]

I don’t know anyone who cried when Cersi died as a matter of fact most of us felt her death was not how we wanted her to go. We wanted more of a torcherous death for her.

[@GenkoNoMiko]

Agreed!

[@SerbAtheist]

And is the point of GOT that violence and revenge are glorious things to be celebrated?

[@toomuchsauce5599]

Thank you! Lena Headey herself wanted a better ending for Cersei.

[@damonmcdowelljr2782]

She spends years of her life trying to liberate a huge population of powerless slaves instead of going and getting what she wants the absolute most while trying her best to protect innocents...but she's been horrible the whole time? Someone make this make sense for me PLEEEASE.

[@paolarosichetti899]

It hasn't.

[@The_winds_of_change]

Daenarys problem is she lived in a black and white world. She conquered entire regions that had their own (admittedly foul) customs such as slavery etc and came in and abolished them with no thought on what to do next. She did not negotiate; she chose violence at every turn even when alternate options presented themselves, she would burn people alive in foreign countries if they refused to bend the knee, and would have more than likely turned on the North following the events of the season finale if she had the chance. Sure, her ideology isn't necessarily bad; free the people, abolish slavery sounds great on paper. But damn, her methods leave a lot to be desired

[@paolarosichetti899]

@@The_winds_of_change Everyone is violent in Got, but for everyone there are extenuating circumstances, for Daenerys there never are, she is Aerys' daughter and that's it. No one wonders why Aerys had become like this (he was not a fool, he knew very well why Rhaegar had called the tournament at Harrenhal), at the beginning of his reign Aerys, thanks to Tiwyn, was a good king.

[@janeathome6643]

@@paolarosichetti899 This!

[@Lady-Mara]

Does someone need to make a video pointing out every time theres a sign? Actually, there probably is one already

[@mamakat114]

Everytime I see that glare from Grey Worm at Jon when Jon isn't killing along with him & his army gives me chills. Like he wants to kill Jon

[@nicostadler852]

Yet somehow he just let Jon live after he killed daenerys it made so much sens

[@mamakat114]

@@nicostadler852 right? I wonder why he didn't? I'm glad he didn't, but still, you would think he would've.

[@cosmocoatl]

Love your reaction and completely agree how this is in line with her character since the beginning. I really hope George finishes his book to see how he wouldve done it differently. I do have to say that the showrunners f'ed up by shortening these seasons.

[@avonbarksdale91]

Seasons were fine and everyone involved was exhausted.

[@brandonralphs1717]

The seasons weren’t shortened- they were extended. There was only supposed to be seven seasons, in line with how the books are supposed to end with seven books. They split the last season into two so they could have more episodes to work with

[@bernardp.1299]

I WILL ALWAYS STAND BY DAENARYS! If I was her, I would’ve done the same thing!

[@SuzySteejo]

And then you'd have been killed. Good job XD -Steejo

[@janeathome6643]

Jon isn't really being a simp; it's more that he's like Ned and he bent the knee and he feels bound by that. He does love Danaerys, but he also can't overcome his disgust at the incest. Stark loyalty is great but it's also a millstone. Tyrion gave up Varys; Jon didn't tattle. Also, that exchange with the little girl who works in the kitchen was about poisoning Dany. The little girl was complaining that she wasn't eating and therefore wasn't consuming the poison she was putting into his food.

[@dsfddsgh]

Jon was a simp in season 8 or was written that way by Dumb and Dumber. He has nothing to say but "She's our Queen" and "I don't want it". Years of character development for so many characters destroyed in just a few episodes by those two jackasses.

[@joshhutton9534]

But Ned wasn't afraid to stand up to King Rob or anyone else. He was honorable to his core and knew where he fell in moral situations.

[@janeathome6643]

@@joshhutton9534 Ned knew Robert could be challenged without people dying as a result.

[@daurydavis3983]

Team Daenerys 😊

[@shandeleo1]

You guys get it about Dany. I still think Cersei is more evil, just less powerful.

[@ladygory]

I LOVE your reactions to this so much. Suzy has been right on the money about Dany for a while, it’s so refreshing to see. There were a lot of us who saw dark!Dany coming from a mile away and were treated as if we were crazy. Well, we were right 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DarthKay093]

Maybe because they didn't build up her going all genocidal good enough and ended the Night King's story in ep3 and then forced this in 3eps. It is called natural storytelling. It would have fit better if this entire season would have been all about fighting the Night King and THEN an entire season about Dany's decline. It is the pacing that is my big gripe and that the Broken Queen storyline didn't get the attention it needed!

[@ladygory]

@@DarthKay093 No I agree that the writing was super lazy this last season, but there have been signs literally the entire show that she would go this route. I’ve read the books several times also and in my opinion GRRM makes it even more obvious. I don’t think we will ever see A Dream of Spring, but I’m still optimistic we’ll get the Winds of Winter in the next couple years and be able to see Dany’s darker journey done justice. At least a little bit.

[@DarthKay093]

@@ladygory We have to wait and see for the real arc of Daenerys since so far only GRRM knows it

[@ladygory]

@@DarthKay093 GRRM told D&D the endgame all the way back when they were doing season 3. This is Dany’s “real arc”, just very streamlined.

[@DarthKay093]

@@ladygory we shall see.....IF We ever get the damn book

[@Randomyoutubecommenter]

Sandors end is so poetic

[@EchanteDante]

I just simply do not understand those who justify all of Daenerys’ actions and words in these final few episodes. Danny is such a psycho. She brutally murdered tons of innocent people then turned into full on Hitler and vowed to “free the rest of the world like she just freed the people of Kings Landing.” referring to her killing all the men women and children of Kings Landing that had absolutely nothing to do with her not Cersei’s egos. People literally call Jon a monster for killing Daenerys. But he was just like a veterinarian putting an animal out of its misery when it becomes irreversibly sick and aggressive. This episode in particular made me absolutely sick and hated what they did!

[@khaleb8340]

Hitler? Danny was like the allies totally burning Dresde. Yes, Roosevelt and Churchill and Stalin also were genocidal tyrants.

[@jimsansone4102]

Exactly, all the Dothraci died charging the white walkers

[@stephanielomeli6950]

my only beef is that she didn’t burn tyrion for being so stupid, he really trusted his sister like why would he. He had no reason being Dany’s hand, everything went horrible once she started listening to him. She should’ve been a Dragon from the beginning, kill cersei, take the throne, take out the white walkers.

[@stephanielomeli6950]

yes burn them allll 😂 i just hate how people forget how complex these characters are and they’re just like “I hate her she’s evil!” “She’s always been ruthless killing her enemies” but praise Jon for executing a kid, and for killing someone who talked back to him. 😭 if i were her I’d dracarys everything too lol

[@RP-zj8ro]

Suzy, mad respect for your take about Dany not being written badly. All the people that think that and were "surprised" when this happened weren't paying close enough attention earlier in the show. She was well written, we just hated what she did lol

[@xzoar2812]

It also comes back to the books tho? Daenerys isn’t really like that in the books. If anything she’s very lonely which can be characterized by her visions she has. It was definitely bad writing. The show writers didn’t know what to do with a character like Daenerys and her dragons within the span of 1 season.

[@TinaMUFC10]

So true ❤

[@joshhutton9534]

Yup. We've seen it the entire series. Her first instincts were always fire and blood. They could have used another episode or two this season to show her rage and lonesome loathing between last episode and this one. But this never should have been a surprise.

[@theanimeplaya4141]

Yea u become a hero or live long enough to become a villain

[@marciosangster]

I don't trust anyone who doesn't like Daenerys, it didn't burn much.

[@PhilipZeplinDK]

There's a horrifying amount of people in the comment section defending Daenerys.

[@gatsby8870]

Great insight and reaction, Suzy! I really enjoyed both your reactions on this. Steejo kept cracking me up too. Have a great night.

[@Diana2703]

Suzy hint: Jon always been a Stark! Me : Always! And a man from the north, the real north

[@rogers.5153]

@SuzySteejo I'm with you both 100% on this episode.

[@alicia1465]

One more thing, the dragon flying overhead was straight from bran’s vision in earlier seasons.

[@sandman9299]

Dany had been showing which way her coin landed for a long time, but she only did horrible things to horrible people, and that made some forgive her or even cheer for her. People who can do horrible things to horrible people ARE horrible people themselves. The Hound said it well when he said the world is built by killers.

[@Katshing_Khan]

That makes Jon a terrible person he executed a bunch of nightswatch including a child

[@sandman9299]

​@@Katshing_Khanthat was the law and those executed broke oaths. If he has also killed their families or tortured them that would have been terrible. Killing out of duty isn't the same thing IMO.

[@Katshing_Khan]

@@sandman9299 Jon also broke his oath, so he was lawfully executed by that logic

[@PancaketheCorgi]

I feel the writers forgot the difference between foreshadowing and actually developing thoughtful motivations for character actions. Yes, they foreshadowed all this happening, but rushed into it without fleshing out the why. Also, all of a sudden all the characters are idiots. And they did Jaime dirty by undoing all of his backstory. Ok, I’m done whining.

[@avonbarksdale91]

Jaime is Jamie. And what’s there to flesh out? She’s been on her way to take over Westeros since season 1. Finally got there and lost all her allies by trying to take Kingslanding the nice way. After missandei died she’s was done playing.

[@keshaponso2034]

This has been coming for so long. You're right

[@assassinking246]

I was sad on varys death he was my favorite character but i was happy that he died early and didn't see the poor innocent people burned

[@pjfsr7024]

Dany and Gray Worm made up their mind the night they burned Missandei's collar.

[@Necrothep]

1:08:13 Nha, we all did know it was coming this way. It just happened way less organic and way quicker than it should have. Grr Martin writes in a way characters have to live with the consequences of the action made while D&D wrote with specific goals in mind and lead the character there and it shows and that's what we think is bad writing.

[@fsu1jreed]

The wheel is never broken

[@Tom-ev4rg]

All the Daenerys fans blame "bad writing" for ruining their favorite character. Nope. Anyone who burns people because they refuse to "bend the knee" is a villain. Anyone who kills people to get what she wants isn't breaking the wheel, she is the wheel.

[@sohang440]

That's wt u do when u r ruling , like u can't keep ur haters around u

[@thisisscorpio6024]

Tyrion was so delusional about the "bells" plan. Dani wasn't agreeing to anything.

[@SuzySteejo]

It really surprised me that he couldn't see it!! - Suz

[@alexandermildener7220]

I don't think she initially intended on burning down the city because she hesitated when the bells rung, but ultimately she is her father's daughter.

[@heiko3169]

@@SuzySteejoWell, i think he knew that could happen, but he HAD to let his hope win and pray for the better end.

[@SerbAtheist]

@@SuzySteejo A drowning man grasps at straws. He naively thought an easy conquest of the city would placate Dany. To the contrary!

[@mermaidreviews4693]

I would love to see you guys watch the shows the white queen, the white princess, and the Spanish princess and becoming Elizabeth ❤ there all different seasons technically

[@thejoeschmoshow]

I guess I’m just lucky because I had braces 20 years ago and have never worn my retainer and my teeth haven’t moved at all.

[@Wicked_Sushi]

I feel there is an important distinction to draw: the more reasoned criticism of D&D is less for Dany's turn to Mad Queen itself and more in the execution and build-up preceding it. You can see for yourself how they hit the accelerator once they reached Season 7. This was a show that (originally) prioritized character development and nuance above all else. George R R Martin himself envisaged the show going past 10 seasons. Putting that aside, at the very least - imagine S7 and S8 fully fleshed out at 10 episodes-a-piece; the conversation around the final season may have been completely different. To put it simply: it didn't feel earned. Loved your reactions to GoT guys. :)

[@avonbarksdale91]

You get to S7 with half the characters you had in the earlier seasons. There’s nothing wrong with things getting sped up.

[@shytguy]

I mean she had moments of brutality, but never toward common people. Never.

[@MikeMahoney-jo3mn]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. One of Martin's goals was to have the readers understand the horrors of war. If interested, lookup March 9/10 1945 "Night of Black Snow"

[@johndinobuff583]

So it's inevitable that Dany would be mad in the end, that would mean that Tyrion would be the villain of the show as well?

[@r1pp3dx]

Danerys didn't burn down kings landing, Cersei did when she used those 1,000,000 people as a shield. Then she blew up the sept. I stand by Danerys. First time I've seen somebody cry for Cersei.

[@Wigfield84]

I never understood why Jaime and Cersei couldn't have gotten inside the giant dragon skull

[@LouisLitt369]

Because because D&D just wanted to rush the past 2 seasons so they could make star wars projects. So a lot of stuff just happens without much thought

[@alicia1465]

On the Dothraki, a lot of them ran back after that charge of the army if he dead. Their fires went out, but half survived. They showed them running back, but they mainly focused on the characters we know in the combat scenes after, so we didn’t get to see much of the surviving Dothraki and unsullied. They said they lost half their forces. And she meant the building of the Red Keep has never fallen.

[@LS13.]

So in the end- I think her going mad makes sense too. She had ONE goal in her life, anyone who only focuses on one goal alone in life isn’t too sane already. But imagine having that goal and then getting there- and it’s not at all what you imagined; spending your entire life towards something that ends up not your fairytale. So in the end she didn’t cope like you said. And the place that hated her, she decided to just let it all go and get her anger out.

[@WillsonT011]

🙏🏻 Please do an Overall final thoughts on the show And how you thought it ended or Should have ended video🤔 before you start HOTD Do the final episode video and then do another video of your overall thoughts of the seven seasons of Game of Thrones and then, of course, start doing videos of HOTD

[@michaelneal7265]

Can't wait for you to watch HOTD next!!

[@lrichardson5057]

Me too. I hope they start HOTD soon after.

[@dtmt502]

more like Hot Mess

[@Leaser2011]

Let's get one thing clear, Cercei would've killed every single human being if she needed it. Cercei is no more innocent than Dany is, both did shitty stuff many times and killed lots of innocent people.

[@b-six-twelve]

Yeah, that’s the one point about the ethics convos that bothers me. I don’t think Dany was inherently more evil than Tywin, Cersei, Joffrey, etc. They just didn’t have dragons.

[@SuzySteejo]

"If she needed it". Dany didn't need it, she just wanted to kill all those people so they would "fear her".-Steejo

[@Leaser2011]

​@@SuzySteejo Exactly, and Cercei made a point (several times in fact) that people should fear her. She loved being feared, that's how she acted in the whole show. If you think about it, Dany (even in all her madness) didn't kill her own people (the unsullied, the drothaki, etc) when she destroyed King's Landing, while Cercei as I said before, would've killed ANYONE (that includes her own armies) if that was necessary to achieve her goals. Cercei was cold and ruthless, Dany was emotional and snapped when things went south. Both did extremely shitty stuff, and both killed lots of innocent people. The real diffence was the type of power each had at their disposal. One had a Dragon and the other had the throne/its resources. Two sides, one coin. Still, loved seeing you two react to the series and I can't wait to see you react to the finale! An amazing ride! Cheers!

[@Heather61776]

Cersei didn't slaughter innocent ppl? So...... When she blew up the Sept...... What about all the innocent ppl that died there? Don't get me wrong, I hear what you're saying. Just wanted to point that out

[@NovaLena22]

Cersei was evil and did kill innocents. But a couple of hundred in or near the sept vs. Dany killing almost 1 million people in KL. Not quite the same really.

[@Heather61776]

@@NovaLena22 again, I didn't say they were wrong. At all. Just stating facts.

[@NovaLena22]

@@Heather61776 My comment wasn't an attack on you. I was actually agreeing with you about Cersei... just disagreed with the comparison of the two acts.

[@Heather61776]

@@NovaLena22 oh I didn't take it as an attack. All good

[@MMKOCH200]

Dany & Stannis both let their belief that they were destined to sit on the Iron Throne consume them to the point that they did awful things.

[@abcdefg2174]

Stannis > Dany (minus the part where he killed his daughter lol)

[@WLDB]

@@abcdefg2174That’s a pretty big part. Murdering your own child is to me the worst act in the series….well aside from the shit Craster was doing.

[@abcdefg2174]

@@WLDB Definitely, but I'm a little sceptical of things that haven't yet happened in the book

[@KeithEvans88]

First person I seen cry over Cersei’s death

[@johntheX]

I did. Loved the character. The acting was always excellent.

[@EdmontonRealEstate01]

King Robb was right to want to have her assassinated. Also Jorah was deluded by her walking out of the flames unscathed.

[@kriegstenicht3502]

At the end of your reaction I thought "Steejo just hug her"

[@jemaselite8076]

Also this reaction is a breath of fresh air, always nice to see people enjoying a show rather than shitting on it every chance they get

[@paolarosichetti899]

We are shitting on it from season 4

[@ianvera4299]

@@paolarosichetti899 Who is "we"? Cus book purist claim S4 is where is got shitty

[@paolarosichetti899]

@@ianvera4299 yes. They left out Bran 's storyline in season 5 and they made it for that filthy mess that was Dorne (the Sand Snakes in the books are not the three idiots from the show, they are in strategic places, sent by Doran Martell) . That's where the real decline began.

[@ianvera4299]

@@paolarosichetti899 And Bran was missing in a Feast for Crows, so I guess the books were also in decline. But S5 had the masterpieces that are Hardhome, Dance of dragons, and Mothers Mercy. The "decline" was short-lived I guess.

[@paolarosichetti899]

@@ianvera4299 the missing character become king, and the two characters around which the saga revolves, disappear. Maybe it will be like this in the books too, if they ever come out, but I know that Martin will give us strong emotions, and not anger.

[@llvll_KEV_llvll]

Agree with Suzy 100% saw it coming!!! great episode great reaction!!! Thank You so Much ✌✌✌ 🇦🇺

[@tsxtina2919]

Only stupid people didn't see it. She was saying she would burn people alive to get what she wants since season 1. "I will take what is mine with fire and blood." What did people think that meant???

[@tjkrueger2655]

Gotta give you both credit for seeing what Dany was going to do when most reactors didn't pick up on the clues through the seasons. She was so single-minded in sitting on the throne even though it was not merit but entitlement/nepotism. The scenes from the last two episodes were flashed in Bran's visions, and people kept trying to convince her not to be her father, and rule with fire and blood. When a targaryian is born, the gods flip a coin. She reached her apex when she freed the slaves, she should have stayed in her lane instead of assuming people with no love for her family would suddenly support her claim. It's ridiculous, but you saw through it

[@carlosr8680]

We have to be honest, Jaime has one of the best story arcs in the entire series, you start off hating him as much as you can, and in the end you cry for all his tragedies.

[@mamaseesa3122]

I would agree, except Theon's is better to me. They both have amazing arcs, but I don't cry over Jamie's death like I do Theon's.

[@harryballsak1123]

Jaimie arc is exactly what you'd expect form a person controlled their entire life by 2 narcissists. Tywin and Cerci. "Oh Brienne is better for him" yes he knows that and that's why he leaves because he thinks he's not worthy of her and he deserves Cerci. People raised by or in relationships with narcissists know what I'm talking about

[@Gwenhwyfar7]

Nope, hated Jaime, always did and then they destroyed all his character development. Arya should have killed him and stolen his face to get to Cercei. What a waste.

[@harryballsak1123]

@@Gwenhwyfar7 Ah, yes everyone is a writer. Write you own shit have it published THEN talk. For the record GRRM absolutely HATES fan fiction. And no didn't ruin his character development. Also you contradict yourself so his character did develop and yet you still wanted Arya to kill him? Base don what why would she be allowed to commit murder? You can't say to avenge Bran because Bran already forgave him. Kindly GFY now

[@fernandof.2225]

Suzy: you were right all along. very few got it like you. be proud. Nice of you to appreciate Arya standing with all the dust on her back. Is an amazing poster. Steejo: good eye to see the mechanisms on the intro being all busted. nice catch appreciating the moment Arya called Sandor by his proper name. Suzy crying made this video so much better to me :)

[@aegon1targaryen208]

You’re absolutely right. I love the chaos of your whole reaction guys lmao 😂 in the best possible way

[@Anthonydbrown13]

my edit for this would have been keep rhaegal from death last ep and on each bell ring show a flashback to people Dany have lost (Drogo, Rhaego, Irri, Rakharo, Barristan, Viserion, Jorah, Missandei) then on the last Bell a scorpion strikes Rhaegal in the neck from a soldier disobeying orders. This shows Dany trying to fight against her rage instead of such a sharp change over the last two episodes (I predicted the mad queen end from about s6 I just wish they had longer to show it)

[@tejastakalkar7924]

We can see denerys doing that, but only if cersei didn't surrender. But denerys won't go crazy after hearing the surrender bell. They went overboard with that. They could have handled it such that she burned the city because they refused to surrender which is in her character to do.

[@dewantoroo]

I don't mind Daenerys ended up being the mad queen, Jon being a fking simp, or Jaime crawling back to cersei after all of those characters development... but how they executed their characters in the show is just simple case of rushing. Just like the man GRR Martin said: "It’s easy to do things that are shocking or unexpected, but they have to grow out of characters. They have to grow out of situations. Otherwise, it’s just being shocking for being shocking." And you'll see exactly what i mean in the next episode lol

[@marklevesque2766]

Cersei did murder a load of innocent people lol Dany just has a higher body count.

[@CatotheE]

People should have listened to good old King Robert. He really was the wisest of them all.😂👍

[@nupe865]

Joffery said the same thing to Tywin.

[@GregoryWhangwhan86]

You are definately not on circe's side, you're just completely not on danerys's anymore

[@NickolasSegars]

How bad ass would jon snow have been if he was the one given fire immunity and 3 dragons

[@clarkjamelle]

crazy how jamie doesn’t care for the ppl yet yall love him