Star Wars: Attack of the Clones - The Worst Prequel

[@megazman-y6j]

I ate them. I ate them all. They’re digested. Every single one of them, and not just the turkey, but the potatoes, and the pie too. It's like Thanksgiving, and I swallowed them like Thanksgiving! I ate them! I know, a day too late but still. To be hungry is to be human.

[@MrBelles104]

To be hungry is to be weak, pathetic mortal. Be like me, ouroboros incarnate, the only feeding on itself-self-perpetuity realized.

[@willbyrob6582]

Well I had a delicious roast chihuahua from Elwood’s Dog Meat Farm for Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving!

[@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjensen111]

This comment should get thousands of likes 😂😂😂.

[@kerrychristensen7204]

Mmm, pie

[@theDAVIScomplex]

Hunger leads to anger…

[@kirby7294]

The best part of killing Ventress in Episode 3 is she cannot be shoe horned into the Bad Batch Season 3

[@SheevTalks]

Like that would stop them

[@MovieMaster-98]

Yeah, it would not have stopped them because they already retconed her death in Dark Disciple, which is a canon book

[@kirby7294]

@@SheevTalks Just let me have this fantasy

[@hubertwaliszewski5740]

​@@SheevTalks Look. Plo-Koon is Dave's favorite and he still hasn't brought him back because luckily George made it very clear that he died in Revenge of the Sith so... Good for us.

[@prdalien0]

Maul died in episode 1 and look what happened...

[@SouthpawLP]

"You've gotta do better, senator!"

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Nobody checked the clone army in the arena.

[@vee-bee-a]

Holy shit, Captain Falcon makes a cameo. 💀

[@Ididtherightthing]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Dooku just kinda…forgot about the clone army

[@SouthpawLP]

​@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Kenobi checked the dart at the diner.

[@alexeecs]

24:51, hearing that killed me lol

[@Nikolai1939]

actually the canon reason for Obi Wan's club plan is that he wanted to get drunk and needed a thinly veiled excuse to do it

[@silentecho92able]

Also if only Anakin and the Assassin weren't in that area he would be hitting up them Death Sticks.

[@s1ckboirari]

@@silentecho92able I get its an allegory for cigarettes, but that dude went up to the Space Police (Jedi) and said "wanna buy a stick of death" and Obi-Wan was just like "nah you shouldn't do that I reckon, just go have a think mate" instead of being like "excuse me wha-? death? sticks..? do u not see my uniform/dashing robes?"

[@silentecho92able]

@@s1ckboirari ever seen's i was a kid i always thought the guy was either he didn't know he was a Jedi or maybe he was a bit Drunk and don't know what he was doing

[@grimreefer9324]

You fellas are both wrong, Obi-Wan was just trying to play off the fact he was a hard-core death stick addict and that th dealer had just spotted one of his regulars

[@s1ckboirari]

@@grimreefer9324 thats the new canon idc what anyone says

[@KyberKat]

The complete list of the times Anakin actually has rizz 1. He holds her bags for her that one time 2. He makes her laugh once 3.

[@billjacobs521]

He saves her life, if that counts.

[@LegioXXI]

Well the sand line is still peak rizz, i use that line all the time and get ladies left and right.

[@JaqueefiusBrown]

his rizz is accidentally using the force to make her like him

[@Dr4shk0]

@@billjacobs521 nope. Indeed, assisting people in manageable danger isn't an intimate or romantic action - it's basic human decency. Heroic, maybe, depending on the circumstances, rizzy? Nah.

[@iivin4233]

​@Dr4shk0 It would be like a socially awkward member of the secret service suddenly hitting on a female senator after she suffered a car bomb attack in Washington DC itself, and then going on to attempt a relationship with her while she was in a safe house with him, which she was put in after someone threw scorpions in her hotel room window. Then that secret serviceman follows all this up with telling the senator that she is in his very soul, tormenting him. Finally, he takes the senator to his home country, where she gets to hang with his slave buying step-dad while he goes on an excursion to commit a massacre Alone. WIth a sword.

[@JM-mh1pp]

One important point. Palpatine does not NEED republic to find Geonosis. In fact, logically speaking he was cought a bit of guard. Like, let's imagine that Kamino was not found, and Geonosis is not discovered. CIS manages to build their army in peace, build up their forces, they attack the republic, vital targets are hit, everyone is panicking, boom clone army is needed+ some heavy militarisation because at this point clones are just not enough. Good for Palpatine= heavy war, society militarises, a charismatic chancellor rises to power. If Geonosis is FOUND it is actually a bit of an issue- not enough build up, a distinct possibility that republic will go for a quick win. I think the main problem with prequels are people who think that EVERYTHING is a part of Palpatine's master plan, like he is some stockfish engine thinking all the moves ahead, but if you adopt a mindset that Palpatine also has to improvise and he is creating not plans but opportunities a lot more makes sense.

[@yavoth5850]

That is actually a very good point, which makes much more sense than "Palps orchestrated everything"

[@tsunderemerc2963]

Exactly, and Phantom Menace does this a bit as well. Palpatine certainly planned a lot of things, but as Yoda says, always clouded the future is. He had to be just as adept at improvising and striking at opportunity.

[@onemanarmysswampparty]

what? i always assumed the discovery of geonosis was not in the cards for palpatine like he wanted to avoid that in order to orchestrate a surprise attack on the republic held planets.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Agree, it was obvious to me that he was trying to steer plenty of things but that "those meddling Jedi & Padme" kept snooping.

[@Ravathiel]

isn't this kinda shown in the cartoon as well? everytime the Jedi talk about Military attacks or Intel, Palps is usually their and then interjects his thoughts or says Anakin should take lead etc etc. it is a shame the cartoon expands on too much that the movies didn't.

[@Sam_Montgomery]

Sheev Talks’ Attack of the Clones video is the most disappointing thing since Sheev Talks’ Phantom Menace video, which is the most disappointing thing since my son.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

"No, my other son; Rian Johnson."

[@jayjaydeth]

Not gonna lie, there was a period of my life where I watched the Plinket playlist. Like, a lot. "Palpatine's behind it all!"

[@cantnevercould9660]

@@jayjaydeth That sounds terrible...

[@vaggos2003]

Sooooooooo, you're very prpid of your son? Great to hear! 👍

[@jkcrawl]

@@cantnevercould9660 Why? The Plinkett reviews are based. Prequel babies just couldn't handle the criticism and only like them for the nostalgia.

[@theeducatedfool]

In hindsight, Anakin revealing to Padme that he had killed an entire village should’ve happened in Revenge of the Sith instead. Have that actually weigh on him instead of just confessing it immediately and being inexplicably forgiven because the plot says so. Also my kingdom for a prequel film character that doesn’t talk like an emotionless robot. I know people try to pretend it’s only Jedi talking like that but no, it’s literally everybody

[@6thgraderfriends]

I think him expressing those feelings is actually a really good scene, it just should have been to Owen instead. Then Owen could be like, "Maybe being a jedi isn't all that..." and want him to stay but Anakin still leaves anyway, and that disappointment could haunt Owen for the rest of his life.

[@theeducatedfool]

@ That’s a good point, I could honestly see a conversation like that working on a much more effective angle. The prequels missed a serious opportunity by not properly developing Owen and Beru as characters and it’s frankly astounding how nobody ever acknowledges that. I appreciated how the Kenobi series tried to do a bit more with that but it could only do so much.

[@lukescrew1981]

@@theeducatedfool Except nobody talks like emotionless robots

[@iivin4233]

Even the jedi talking like that don't seem to be intentionallt talking like that. None of them are Data. None of them are Elcor. They aren't Vulcans. There is no artfulness there. There is no innovation on the concept. And most importantly, nothing about it is ever said or implied in the script. Are Qui-gon's admonitions to be mindful and judge clearly an indication that all jedi should convey zero subtext through their dialog--especially protagonists based on a fan favorite villain who is noted especially for his exceptional emotion line delivery?

[@iivin4233]

​@@6thgraderfriendsIf that revelation doesn't disturb Owen almost as much as Padme, then that says something pretty dire about his own personal ethics.

[@grimreefer9324]

For as many issues as that Cosmonaut review might have, you really cant beat the comedy of "PALPATINE SENDS DOOKU, WHO SENDS JANGO FETT, WHO SENDS A SHAPESHIFTER, WHO SENDS A DROID, WHO SENDS _BUGS_ -"

[@donovan4222]

@@grimreefer9324 I didn’t know so many people didn’t like cosmonaut until I found Sheev’s little channel

[@grimreefer9324]

@@donovan4222 i think people just take his word too seriously on both ends- people who haven't watched the movies hes reviewing in a long ass time will often just like, take his opinions and make them their own consciously or subconsciously. and i say this because ive literally been guilty of doing this ALL the time. which leads to the other side of people who have gotten annoyed at his review style or listening to people circulate his talking points over the years. personally i think hes critic third and comedian/entertainer first and second, which cuts him more slack. hes just a dude talking about media he likes and not really a classically educated critic. like his rating system is basically completely inconsistent because sometimes it seems more "objective quality of this movie" and sometimes it is DEFINITELY "how fuckin funny this trash was" but review scores are pointless anyways so i like him jus fine

[@Nick-ue7iw]

@@donovan4222 Cosmo has been called out repeatedly for making arguments that fly right in the face of all evidence to the contrary. He's made it clear in multiple debates with other content creators he really struggles with literary devices and any sort of story that isnt blatantly obvious.

[@donovan4222]

@@Nick-ue7iw Can you give an example?

[@GT_rising24]

If i were a crime boss i think that'd be the safest way to keep suspicion from myself lol

[@SunsetBear]

sheev, if jango wasn’t a fett, how could boba say the line “i grew up surrounded by water” ????

[@blossom9510]

I suspect you may know this already, but the reason Zam doesn't use her powers when she slips into the bar is because Zam was originally meant to simply be a human. George made her a changeling last minute because he thought it would be fun to use some facial morph FX he'd just learned about, that's why the scenes where Anakin and Obi call her a changeling are all reshoots (you can tell by Obi's really crummy looking glued-on beard). Georgie just can't help himself!

[@nicoloenricorimoldi7425]

Really? That's atrocious!

[@CMReina]

Yeah makes sense he'd do that given the era it was made in, in a better movie it'd be a nice little factoid rather than another annoyance with the writing I think.

[@GhostLink92]

It's a shame that Star Trek levied the Shape shifter thing so much better in the freaking 90's. Granted, that was entire seasons of TV, and not 1/5 of a film. But still.

[@iivin4233]

I recommend you all should read the book A Secret History of Star Wars if you're interested in George's true colors. No, he's not secretly a monster. I'll spoil that much for you.

[@thequietman95]

You know, this video made me realize: due to the Jedi’s self-righteous and inflexible moral code, Palpatine could have ran the same game on Anakin by manipulating him into a relationship with literally any woman. Padme’s dead? No worries, Chancellor Palpatine just hired a pretty secretary who’s great at listening, and Anakin’s about to find himself spending a lot of time in the outer office for … reasons.

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

An excellent point I never thought of.

[@vaggos2003]

Hm, interesting point.

[@grimreefer9324]

Basically, Vaders rise is what zero pussy does to a mf

[@Indigo_1001]

Not really. Anakin liked Padme specifically because she was one of the first friend he had outside of his home world. Anakin isn’t as shallow to fall for anyone

[@vaggos2003]

@@Indigo_1001 True.

[@whitehawk4099]

There's a few errors that I see often that basically stem from that assumption that Palpatine has a single, overarching plan that must happen exactly as he planned and the movies are simply the unfolding of said plan. In reality, Palpatine has a goal which he moves toward, himself in power over the Republic and the Jedi eliminated, and he changes and adapts his moves to the situation. For example, in the Phantom Menace, he legitimately wanted Queen Amidala to sign the treaty with the Trade Federation. With that done, it would give him a large amount of political capital in the senate which would put him into an excellent situation to become Supreme Chancellor after Valorum left his post. But then Padme escapes, and with the help of the Jedi no less. This is still not unsalvageable, so he sends Maul with the plan to have him retrieve Padme and kill the Jedi in the way. This is unsuccessful and the Jedi escape after seeing a Sith. This was not his previous plan, Palpatine obviously didn't want the Jedi to know that the Sith weren't extinct, but Maul's retrieval was a failure. When Padme arrives, he convinces her to call a vote of no confidence and he becomes Supreme Chancellor. He then plans on securing his powerbase while the Naboo are subjected to various torments, ensuring a constant justification for him to centralise more power in his position as the Senate had grown too frail to even defend the citizens of the homeworld of their own Supreme Chancellor. This likely would have been the way he would have spun it, or something similar at least. But Padme, young and brash that she is, ignores this advice and uses the Jedi and the Gungan army to destroy the droid army. Still, even this Palpatine is able to use to his advantage, as in killing Maul the Jedi think that the Sith have been eliminated once and for all. In the meantime, Palpatine is able to quietly, slowly build his powerbase and become the Senate personified.

[@altEFG]

People will scrutinize every fucking frame of the movie for hours, but will fail to grasp the simple concept of multiple outs.

[@Freindly_commentator]

Agreed

[@donovan4222]

@@whitehawk4099 Whatever his plan was, Padme was the only viable way to turn Anakin to the dark side and anakin was the only way Sidious survived his fight with Windu, so they seem pretty important to his plan.

[@whitehawk4099]

@@donovan4222 You're putting cart before horse here. Why was it necessary that Palpatine fight Windu at all? It only happened because Palpatine explicitly told Anakin he was the Sith Lord, and Anakin then went to tell Windu. Furthermore, I don't think that it was impossible for Palpatine to win that fight. I always got the impression the ending of the fight was manufactured to force Anakin into siding with Palpatine. If he wasn't involved, I suspect Palpatine could have defeated Windu. But if the fight still had to happen, Palpatine could just have a platoon of clones defending him.

[@donovan4222]

@@whitehawk4099 Doesn’t the fact that Palpatine confessed to anakin and risked his life kind of speak to how how much Palpatine thought he needed him? Also, given Windu and Yoda were the 2 strongest in the order, Palpatine probably assumed he would have to fight them at some point. Order 66 didn’t work on Yoda, and I doubt it would be enough to kill Windu either. Couldn’t Windu fight armies of droids by himself without a lightsaber? I never bought into the idea that Palpatine was holding back in the fight with Windu either, he was just trusting Anakin to walk in at the very last second and save him? Or do you think he could have beaten mace at any time he wanted to and just didn’t? That theory seems a bit far fetched and lacking evidence to me.

[@JoeyCarb]

In an act of evolutionary self preservation, my brain completely removed the memory of Phantom Menace puppet Yoda, and I hate that it's been returned to my consciousness.

[@lorddevilfish5868]

Scientists and psychologists have theorized that Arachno and Ophidiophobia are an evolutionary survival mechanism, none compare to reptilian feat of Phantom Menace puppet Yoda!

[@mrzirak792]

Attack of the Clones is my favourite episode.... .... In Lego Star Wars: The Complete saga

[@mosshivenetwork117]

that was really fun

[@SpaZNinjA18]

Gunship Cavalry says otherwise

[@mrzirak792]

@@SpaZNinjA18 ok that's the only thing i dislike, but at least it's not as hard as it was in Original Lego Episode 1

[@nick-cepticon782]

Attack of the Clones is a solid third place for me behind Rotj and New Hope. But Discovery on Kamino is my fav Lego level of all time

[@tinyguy1015]

Same

[@JM-mh1pp]

With mother it could be a bit...problematic... - Jedi are to blame for your mother's death...and the republic that they answer to - The republic...which you were a chancellor of. - Sorry Anakin? - You were a head of the republic ever since I was a kid...and you never did anything to save my mother... I saved Naboo, your homeworld and you not once went "you know what... hey captain whatever take 20k credits from representation fund, take a few fighters and bring Anakin's mother to Courscant"

[@donovan4222]

@@JM-mh1pp lmao that’s true, the call is coming from inside the house

[@6thgraderfriends]

But it would make sense that the republic doesn't reach beyond their borders. The jedi in theory could but they refuse to which is really weird. Wouldn't they want to spread their influence and try to get more jedi across the galaxy whether or not their home planet is affiliated with the republic? Also, I remembered later that Palpatine wasn't even the chancellor at the time. It was just a senator. If anything Anakin could blame the previous administration but not him specifically, if that makes sense.

[@JM-mh1pp]

@@6thgraderfriends Oh come on, we are not talking about planetary anexation or declaration of war, but you cannot tell me that chancellor could not send an envoy and secure freedom for one slave.

[@jayjaydeth]

@@6thgraderfriends The Republic? Sure. But literally all he needs to do is hand some money (or something else of value since republic credits don't work out there, apparently) to someone he trusts and say, hey, keep this on the down low, but I need you to free a slave for me. Even more annoying is that Shmi was kidnapped AFTER Watto had sold her because he needed the money(?). Which would make sense, because we never actually see her doing anything, it was Anakin that was working the shop. So there's no reason why Watto wouldn't want to sell her, especially since he'd probably figure out really quick he could get an astronomical price for her than he otherwise would on Tatooine. In fact he probably imagined they would be back soon for her and was really confused when they never did. Now, the counter argument for this would be that the Jedi would be against that because of attachments and blah blah blah. But they don't have to actually tell Anakin about her, or at the very least they can inform him that she's safe but that he must not contact her and focus on his studies. Because the alternative seems much much worse. i.e.: What happens in the movie. Honestly, it's just bad optics all around. All those years later and it's only now that anyone remembers he has a mom.

[@JM-mh1pp]

@@jayjaydeth and if we are being all reasonable here- Padme...queen of Naboo... Anakin literally saved her people... all those nice dresses, vistas, palaces... not once did she thought... "hey his mother is still there"

[@frishgepresst662]

I think you should make a “Rewrite of the Prequel’s” video. I liked your takes especially the Jedi’s defection to CIS. I would personally really like that type of video.

[@TY-km8hj]

I agree, finish the vids on all the movies and then I think we should get a full rewrite of the pt since they need it quite a bit. Sequels I don't care about nut whatever Sheev does on then I'll watch

[@lancesilvis4085]

to me, it’s pretty straight forward how to fix them, in the first movie, make slavery a bigger deal to Anakin, in the second movie have the jedi side against slaves somehow, and he sides with the jedi initially (could be because he believes if all slaves worked hard enough like he did, they could “earn their freedom” like him) then he turns to the dark side in the third movie when something flips that cope upside down. Palpatine could still be controlling things behind the scenes by being the reason people are kept in slavery, and the reason the Jedi are ordered to kill the people in slavery. But Anakin wouldn’t have that info revealed to him until after he was Vader, but he realizes too late and takes his anger out on the remaining jedi. You could even use the inter-OT movies as a way to explain how he finds out Palpatine was manipulating the actions of the Council.

[@cantnevercould9660]

@@lancesilvis4085 I... think the version we have currently is fine, just needs a little more minor touches.

[@mrreyes5004]

Frigging yes to this. Sheev has already laid out some great ideas to improve this story, but I'd absolutely agree that it would be best to dedicate an entire video to just exploring all of the better paths there are to improving the delivery of the themes and ideas that George Lucas obviously meant to include. Stuff like Anakin's bad life as a slave bugging him more, another Sith character being introduced to give Dooku more time in the spotlight, plus the controversial bits in Episode 3 (I.e., child murdering) being cut out. In its due time, of course.

[@somethingwithultra7231]

I believe the reason he said that and kind of showed panels is because parts-ish of that happens in the Clone Wars Multi Media Project. Although ofcourse that's largely supplementary material not in the movie, and even then doesn't cover it as much.

[@yavoth5850]

The droid factory has to be the lowes point in the entirety of pre-Disney Star Wars. Funnily, I thought for a while that if you cut it out completely, as well as all the R2/3PO scenes in the arena battle, the movie would not miss anything important, and would be much better for it. Now I know why!

[@SixFootTurkey_]

There's behind the scenes footage from the droid factory. Natalie Portman is running around the green screen room and at one point she starts laughing and says George Lucas is pranking her. Lucas replies "it will look good". 😂

[@mediadetective6104]

On the Anakin and Padme romance, I personally really despise the excuse people give Anakin that “he was raised by space monks, of course he doesn’t know how to talk to a woman” because I feel like people forget Jedi aren’t just some warriors who meditate all day until a war happens, they are also to an extent politicians. This is literally shown at the start of the Phantom Menace, if you’re going to be a Jedi doing these kinds of things you probably should learn social skills and how to talk to people both in a professional capacity and just on a simple human level. This also makes less sense when characters like Obi Wan and Qui Gon are shown talking to normal citizens and clearly have enough social skills to hold a conversation without sounding like a robot or like a creepy psycho like Anakin. I’m not saying Anakin would be great at flirting, that specifically I’m fine with him not being good at, but his basic social skills are basically nonexistent and “being raised by space monks” doesn’t make sense as an answer when you look at how the Jedi operate.

[@nagger8216]

Not to mention it's still not an excuse for how uncomfortable Padme acts around this guy, then falls in love with him regardless. She doesn't see Anakin's awkwardness as cute or charming at all, that's the problem. He's this weirdo that quickly reveals himself to be a creep, then starts flying off the handle at the smallest shit. But suddenly he has a crisis about his mom dying, and apparently that's enough for her to fall in love with him. There is just no reciprocation from Padme at all, the scene of her telling Anakin they can't be together feels like she's trying to come up with every excuse under the sun.

[@mediadetective6104]

@ I totally agree, I just wanted to mention the Anakin side of things because in the video he basically takes the “he was raised by space monks” excuse as valid and that bothered me. He perfectly explains the Padme side of things but him just breezing through Anakin and how generally he shouldn’t be this socially inept made me want to point it out. But yeah, both sides of the relationship don’t work at all and it’s probably still to me one of the worst fictional romances I’ve seen.

[@donovan4222]

@@mediadetective6104 My problem with that excuse is that if you are going to go the route of Anakin being awkward with girls, you can still do that in a way where he is still likable and not a creepy weirdo. Anakin would be far from the first main character to fumble with women and have negative rizz…the problem is a good writer would do it in cute and endearing way and George doesn’t know how to write natural dialogue or relationships lmao

[@nagger8216]

@@donovan4222 Exactly, nailed it.

[@thomasraines1396]

Exactly, it’s just Anakin being a weirdo.

[@mr.anakinguy7098]

I’ll be honest, I really hate it when you spitball rewrites in your videos because it always makes me think “damn, Star Wars could’ve been way cooler.”

[@Krmelj1308]

I only started watching this guy, what other rewrites did he make?

[@osets2117]

Power of hindsight

[@N120Xeno]

@Krmelj1308He made a video where he rewrites the book of boba fett

[@iivin4233]

People absolutely should spitball rewrites if they want to. It is meaningful when someone can come up with a better idea in a couple minutes. These films are worth tens of millions. I am not suggesting script writers be perfect. I am suggesting that they can afford beta readers and editors.

[@tommyblaze8871]

53:10 "...the only things we've gotten up until this point is a really awkwardly timed kiss and a picnic in a field where Anakin advocates for fascism." This cracked me up 🤣🤣

[@skyslasher2297]

13:10 Its not even inconsistent with the OT since Obi-wan reminded Yoda he was a bit reckless in his youth. Sure Anakin is more reckless in comparsion but I see that as him taking a page out of his masters book.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Every apprentice has to push boundaries. It's a part of growing up. Anakin more so because he was much less indoctrinated into the Order & the status quo that has come to blind the Jedi to their own fears & faults.

[@iivin4233]

​@@orphanedhanyouDoes anyone else think it's weird that the jedi do child indoctrination? They could just have parochial schools, or have nothing to do with children at all. But that's not what Lucas wrote... Other than this not jiving with the OT, I am broadly fine with a faction behaving like this. But there's absolutely zero reflection on it or resistance to it by the wider public. And there's no fundamentalist religious support of the jedi among the people, either. No cynical senatorial support like we see with fundamentalist religious groups on earth. There's no conflict or worldbuilding whatsoever.

[@howilearned2stopworrying508]

I always imagined the Kaminoans can't easily tell humans apart so they maybe met Sifodyas once and then Sidious took over the order and a guy in a robe is a guy in a robe - especially when the space checks clear.

[@DrDemopan]

1:01:44 One thing to add here is that VFX artists are one of the only professions in the movie industry that *aren't* unionized. As a result, they're overworked and underpaid, and therefore demotivated to do a good job.

[@panameadeplm]

"The Worst Prequel" is simultaneously the one movie responsible for cementing a generation's interest in Star Wars.

[@AlphaAurora]

The AOTC Novel covers a LOT more of Shmi on Tatooine. Its nice for more worldbuilding. I am amazed that for the longest movie, AOTC is a whole lot of nothing happening, and a ""and then" plot.

[@timewarpdrive77]

Im listening to the audiobook and I'm not a fan of the author's dialogue

[@mattd5240]

​@@timewarpdrive77Is it better or worse than the movies dialog?

[@timewarpdrive77]

@@mattd5240 I haven't listened to it fully. I've never really had much an issue with a dialogue of episode 2 (besides the romance stuff), so I dunno Im sure you could get a free sample from audible or youtuber or whatever

[@JW0522]

Sheev, you failed to realize that without General Grievous we would have never gotten… GENERAL KENOBI!

[@gmat4380]

Hello there.

[@iivin4233]

I wish I could have been in that story meeting where episode 3 Grieveous was invented: "Do what Gendy did but worse."

[@SWDude2710]

​@@iivin4233tbf George kinda didn't like what the 2003 show did with Grievous and believed Grievous, plus his tragic backstory the EU created, felt too similar to and could overshadow Vader's, which was why he was basically responsible for why Grievous in the 2008 show.....is what he is now. I don't personally agree with what George did, and those who take everything George does as Canon only are kinda foolish if they are ok with how he neutered Grievous hard.

[@jacobj869]

I have some thoughts on Yoda. I agree with you re criticisms of Yoda’s character in the prequels. I don’t really understand why people think being old would make a being immune from making mistakes. Wisdom isn’t a video game metric, where once you achieve it, you maintain a peak “wisdom level” for the rest of your life. Old people make mistakes, and old dogs can learn new tricks. Americans should be able to understand this - our Congress is filled with old fools who can’t see beyond the ends of their noses. If were to bite them in the ass as hard as it did Yoda in the prequels, they would perhaps come out of the experience as wise as him in ESB. I think that Yoda’s age makes sense as it is, however. Yoda is a being young enough that he may have *just* known some of the individuals who had experienced the cataclysm of the last sith war firsthand. At the same time, he’s so old that none of the people around him are able to conceive of the horrors that struggle must have unleashed. I think this ~limbo~ in experience has made Yoda’s character age even better irl as time has gone on. It has been nearly 100 years since the last great power conflict on earth. Most of the people who actually experienced it are now dead. At this point even those who knew these people personally are retiring or dying. Our current leaders are old enough to just about remember the stories of their parents/grandparents, and how experiencing a world at war personally affected them, but they don’t have a full grasp on the events that truly experiencing them would. They understand theoretically what goes on in a great power conflict, but they don’t really understand the costs and horrors associated with it, and thus behave or lead in ways someone who had perhaps would not. Yoda is kind of like this. He’s old enough to intellectually fathom that galactic war is undesirable, and that peace needs to be preserved, but, despite his great age, he still doesn’t have the experience to truly understand why. For this reason, I think prequel Yoda is becoming a more and more potent parable for our current leadership, and a reminder that many of our problems are explainable as those lessons which were learned in the past that will repeat because they weren’t internalized in a way that transcends generations. I think that’s something worth pondering.

[@iivin4233]

Sheev's point is absolutely bizzare. 1:22:00 "I don't know what to tell you. He just does." Did that strike you as odd? It's not really hubris for Yoda to fight when he has to do. In a better written story, I would have expected the jedi that actually did have negative character traits to have sidelined Yoda politically. General Yoda is bizzare. It is, at least, a subversion that needed exploration and justification. How many wars did it take for Yoda to realize that wars don't make someone great? To most kids in the audience, that idea comes as a revelation. But should it be news to Yoda at this point?

[@kjkj128]

i understand not liking the anakin-padme romance and i know im in the minority here but i personally feel it makes a lot of sense. you already mentioned the stuff from tpm, but also if you think about it padme was a queen at age 14, and a senator since. she has very obviously never really gotten her own time to just be herself as a kid and discover normal romance things growing up. on top of that, the majority of people she has been around all her life have been politicians and nobles and such always putting on a mask, being dishonest and making power plays and scheming. then she reunites with anakin, an old friend, and sure he might not have conventional rizz, he is the most himself and honest person she has encountered in a long long time, and he encourages the same from her. it does not surprise me in the slightest that she would fall for him. also i think his dialogue is really not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, but i am an autistic woman so what do i know

[@tofuteh2348]

i dont think autism has anything to do with bad dialogue

[@kjkj128]

@tofuteh2348 I meant it in the sense of what a lot of people naturally find "cringe" or over the top doesn't really create the response from me. I understand why people feel the way they do about it, but where other people see dialogue that sounds "unnatural" or "cringe" or "over the top", I see a boy being incredibly honest and pouring his heart out to the girl he loves which to me IS very romantic if that makes sense.

[@tofuteh2348]

@kjkj128 i mean sure but I'm allistic but my friend who's autistic finds it FAR more cringier than me which is why idk if autism has much to do with it. Imo their relationship in The Clone Wars show is far more believable despite it also having it's own flaws. Anakin in general is so much better in the show tbh

[@joe_floyd]

star wars fans make 1 million excuses for bad writing. Clone Wars, Original Trilogy, Prequels, its just a bunch of d riders

[@lukescrew1981]

@@joe_floyd Wrong

[@aether6500]

1:17:46 I have to disagree. Boba got woefully little screentime in the original trilogy, and getting a blue Boba in a jetpack and the same spaceship was way better than any other bounty hunter could have been.

[@Emanon...]

Fuck Boba Fett. He's one of the most overrated characters in all of fiction.

[@Rschr101]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kurtwagner350]

I kind of agree in a weird way. Most of the time I don’t care for callbacks, but if ever there was a good justification to shoehorn in a legacy character I think this is it.

[@sonoftheway3528]

@@kurtwagner350 He could've just been a Mandalorian and not been directly related to Boba

[@kurtwagner350]

@@sonoftheway3528 🤷‍♂️ that doesn’t really further Boba as a character, it just looks cool in a shallow way again.

[@Johnbillyfrank]

Every December 24th I celebrate a Merry Christmas Sheev.

[@hk1371]

Merry Sheevmas

[@MattBuckeyeGuy]

Its sheevmas

[@PareliusC]

The bridge not being extended in A New Hope makes sense as a security measure to restrict the movements of Luke Leia, Han and Chewie making it easier to capture them

[@orphanedhanyou]

Plus it's not just a random hallway that's a bridge, it's in areas of the Death Star they have important equipment & clearly safety hazards. So if there is an issue with the door or someone got access that shouldn't, restricting access or not allowing certain controls to function are basic security.

[@iivin4233]

The door reads: "Only to be accessed when gravity is off or by qualified personnel, ISHA" Psh. Next you'll tell me the Imperials lock doors to restrict access. How laughable.

[@EPPicstuff]

34:33 Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and General Grevious are all mirror images of who Anakin Skywalker would become, faces of Darth Vader. Darth Maul - The obedient menace Count Dooku - The fallen jedi General Grevious - The killer cyborg So that's why George wanted Grevious in the movie. Whether he's a very interesting character on his own merits, debatable.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Interesting back story but yeah in the film that isn't his purpose. Is Tarkin "interesting" beyond the inferences fans made about him due to the way Peter Cushing portrayed him in such a distinct way that fans felt a whole identity & character behind him even though he only said a few lines?

[@nohbuddy1]

I like making shit up to justify bad characters too!

[@Anakinskynader]

@@nohbuddy1pretty sure this was confirmed by George himself lol

[@publichearing8536]

​@@nohbuddy1how about making up shit as to not think about characters too deeply

[@nohbuddy1]

@@Anakinskynader It wasn't

[@r.w.9631]

I was honestly baffled that people think the phantom menace was the worst prequel when I've thought this was the worst back in 2007 when I was ten

[@orphanedhanyou]

Absolutely not. 1 & 2 are a 10 & 3 is an 11.

[@r.w.9631]

​@@orphanedhanyouwhat ?

[@barkley8285]

@@orphanedhanyou Episode 1 5/10 Episode 2 4/10 Episode 3 8/10

[@timewarpdrive77]

You thought it was bad when you were ten? Woopty doo!

[@JADBeats]

@@timewarpdrive77 What does this comment even mean lmao

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

I am still of the belief George should've used Darth Maul as the big villain in all three prequels, just like Vader was in the OT. Maul should've not died at the end, or just make it look like he died (not cut in half, of course), and then let him return in Episodes II and III as a more developed character, showing he's not only a death machine, but also a cunning strategist (with way more dialog lines). Dooku could've been a Tarkin-like character, not a Sith Lord, but a fallen Jedi working in tandem with the Sith, as a kind of spy among the Jedi. Leave Grievous completely out of the movies, he was literally a third wheel.

[@marcosrecio4062]

No,that sounds stupid

[@Rschr101]

Sounds awesome.

[@OscarASevilla]

Congrats, you managed to make a plot with no soul or as much fun as the prequels. What's next, Palpatine shouldve been left out of episode 6 and it should've been Vader as the ultimate villain?

[@marcosrecio4062]

@@OscarASevilla they always miss the point that the villains in the prequels are foreshadowing Darth Vader in some way,and why was he so powerful. They just want cool bad guy spinning with double lightsabers.

[@0blivionvoid139]

Ignore these others, I can see some merit in the idea. When Maul is revealed, the Jedi speculate on if he is a master or apprentice. Dooku is a Jedi who switches sides and is involved in the plotting. His turn convinces the Jedi that Maul is the master and Dooku is his apprentice that he's training. With the death of Dooku and the final confrontation with Maul its revealed that they've been wrong all along and Palatine is the master and had been pulling all the strings. I disagree with you about Grievous though. He should stay as the general leading the separatist armys. Maybe have him dislike the sith and thier interface with HIS war, unknowing that they are the ones responsible for it.

[@ryanelliott71698]

I’m glad you point out George isn’t a god who can do no wrong, he’s not perfect and can make writing mistakes. Especially now with all the Disney hate, people have a short term memory as I remember all the prequel hate yet now everyone acts like it’s genius.

[@kingorange7739]

I mean don’t get me wrong, George in spite of all his problems is way better as a whole than Disney is. One was a visionary who simply could not carry all the weight he was trying to carry while getting a little full of himself, the other is an actual evil corporation who has fundamentally tried to destroy what Star Wars is to make it something that fits their agenda, actively spite their fans, and use Star Wars as little more than a platform for their political agendas.

[@petermj1098]

⁠​⁠The criticism of the prequels was not the problem. The problem is fans were way too toxic towards the prequel actors and Lucas. The treatment towards both Anakin actors and the Jar Jar Binks actor was terrible. George had good ideas but needed better to revision in the ideas. The fans were way too toxic and mean in their criticism rather than constructive.

[@joe_floyd]

@@petermj1098 womp womp who cares

[@petermj1098]

@ People wonder why Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney when his fans were so toxic cause of the prequels. Lol

[@donovan4222]

@@kingorange7739 “an evil corporation” It’s adorable how you think Star Wars was a “good corporation” before Disney bought it. “Fundamentally tried to destroy Star Wars to make it something that fits their agenda” Why don’t you elaborate on that. George made some horrible garbage movies, but he’s a “good guy”, and Disney made some horrible garbage movies which makes them “evil” and “destroying Star Wars”? Also complaining that a story about fighting space fascism is “political” is honestly hilarious

[@Toshiro93]

It's the Star Wars movie I've seen the least, in the hexalogy. And there are several reasons: the plot is essential to understand the sequel, but you always have the impression that there is some brake in expressing its full potential. The characters don't seem capable of putting 2+2 together when the information they are given is rather simple to put together: I'm just thinking about the convenience of discovering a secret army - apparently commissioned by a long-lost Jedi believed to be dead before the creation of said army - just when a conflict is about to break out and when Palpatine has appointed himself supreme leader with special powers. Already at this juncture, and before Dooku's revelations about Sidious to Obi Wan, the Jedi should have understood that it was better to eclipse themselves from the imminent chaos, or at least hinder Palpatine's career. Speaking of characterization, it's hard to understand how Anakin can go from being angry for losing his mother to being, essentially, a slightly more reckless version of Kenobi during the second part of the film...there's no glue between these two halves, they seem to belong to a schizophrenic character. Small note: but what kind of poor job must Kenobi have done in training Anakin, if in 10 years of apprenticeship he has become like this? And we're talking about a man, anagraphically, not a boy. I won't waste words on the technical department: sometimes the CGI is good, other times it seems fake (especially on the clones on Geonosis), the battle that triggers the conflict is surprisingly bland and the final fight between Dooku and Kenobi-Anakin is really too short. It is true that a master cannot be put in difficulty by a knight and his apprentice, but I would have preferred to show a Dooku who played like "cat and mouse", also because his character continues to seem rather senseless to me: you want the order to no longer be dominated by the hypocrisy you accuse it of, and yet you ally yourself with the worst enemy of your own order... and you continue to cloak yourself in nobility, when the resulting portrait of Dooku is rather chaotic, one moment he seems like a well-intentioned gentleman, the next moment he is a cartoon villain (and I am referring to the duel in Revenge of the Sith). Obviously, I leave out of the discussion any reference to the novelization of Revenge of the Sith (where he is presented as a sort of human supremacist). Lee gave a good interpretation, but I never found this role as iconic as his contemporary Saruman, even if I have a small note of appreciation, when the Neimodians escape from Geonosis, Dooku seems to roll his eyes, as if to say to himself "good heavens, how much patience I have to carry..." The only sector in which I cannot express complaints is the sound one: as usual, Williasm was able to make the characters speak better than the script, only Across the stars I think is one of his best melodies in his entire career as a composer.

[@iivin4233]

You're right. The story absolutely does not hold up. It is a case study in missed opportunities. For example--and, am I crazy for this? I have never heard anyone besides myself bring up the ethical side of breeding up a clone army of sentient humans. Shouldn't the human population of the galaxy look at that and be like, first, that's fucked up, second, you used *our* species' without our consent? Do you know what kind of reprisals this might cause? We're a minority on most planets in the galaxy. I don't think we want our species alone to be associated with masked invaders from an increasingly centralized central government. If the empire is to later become human-chauvinist (somehow), and if Palpatine is proposing reform, then wouldn't these kinds of issues be what radicalizes humans to his side--or against him if the truth gets out? It would explain the decommissioning of the clones, the erasure of the jedi, and give a reason for the empire to exist.

[@kapitanbuggy]

Despite their flaws I like the other two prequel films. But aotc has always been a tough watch, even as a kid I usually skipped it.

[@bigdoubleu117]

Ep2 is underrated imo

[@JADBeats]

@@bigdoubleu117 It has the worst dialogue of any movie ever

[@bigdoubleu117]

@@JADBeats That's hyperbolic and an extreme over exaggeration

[@JADBeats]

@@bigdoubleu117 No

[@bigdoubleu117]

@@JADBeats so its dialogue is worst than something like The Room?

[@DisFantasy]

I think originally Aunt Beru was meant to bridge the gap between the Lars and the Skywalkers. She remembered Anakin fondly in ANH, comparing him to Luke. In TPM, one of the young girls we see criticizing Anakin for his pod-racer could have easily been her. But in AotC, instead of a child hood friend, she's barely introduced as Owen's girlfriend, and the only times she see's Anakin, he's enraged and grieving over his mother. I think Anakin's friendship with Beru is sacrificed to promote his relationship with Padme. Instead of seeking comfort from Beru over their mutual grief over Shumi's death, he confides in Padme who at least met the lady all those years ago and had some familiarity with her, but there's no personal bond there. AotC is a coming of age film, interrupted by a war movie. It kind of works in a tragic sort of way, but it can cause some tonal whiplash.

[@Tirgo69]

Small note here, but Lucas' commentary for the film implies that Dooku trying to convince Obi Wan to join him was completely genuine on Dooku's part since Sith chronically backstab each other.

[@reneastorgaterre1954]

On hindsight, the change from Obi-Wan on how he trains Anakin and Luke is more appreciated from a narrative stand point, since Obi-Wan went from being a Padawan straight to a Jedi with a student of his own, he'd try as hard as he can to live to up to Qui-Gon's dying whish to train Anakin, due to sheer inexperienced becoming a harsher teacher, and after Anakin's fall of grace, to which Obi-Wan takes resposibility (I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you), 19 years later when he takes upon himself to train Luke (even for what little time he did), he aproches him in a more warmer matter, even showing more emotion to and even joy to Luke when he makes progress in his training.

[@Hondarama]

Slight correction at 1:09:45-1:09:50 That's not a "barrel thing" about to be filled with "molten lava" It's a crucible, about to be filled with some sort of molten metal. Good video btw :) Both this, and the Phantom Menace video.

[@Ih8bl4cks]

42:00 is that you KSI?

[@anticitizenokapi4634]

Ironically as much as I dont really like this film nowadays, this was the first Star Wars movie I ever saw after I was born in 2005. The arena scene always had a special place in my heart, cause it had a lot of a very Roman Empire influence.

[@iivin4233]

With Star Wars, the parts are often greater than the whole. Yours is a good example of that. Geonosian language? Another good example. I'm rooting for those buggers. Mixed up in the politics of the big, wide galaxy.

[@ErikCB912]

I’m a little more than a decade older than you and AOTC was the first Star Wars movie I saw in theaters. I agree with you that the arena scene was special. It blew me away as a kid.

[@billjacobs521]

I'm not sure there's any reason Jango would think two Jedi would be able to sense poisonous bugs in Padme's room. You said it's well-known that Jedi can sense life, but...is it? In the first movie, the head of the Trade Federation, presumably a massive, galactic organization that deals with almost every part of the galaxy, seemed totally at a loss by Jedi--they were some mysterious, spooky thing to him. Jango isn't a bureaucrat but I'm still not sure he'd really have that much understanding of what Jedi are capable of besides knowing they use lightsabers. I also don't think it's that strange to try to quietly kill someone with killer insects, so long as you have reason to believe those bugs will, with a very high probability, seek out and bite any large animal in the room. Even if they don't, surely it wouldn't be the end of the world--he can just try something else. I also don't think it would make sense to station men all over the dang place if the whole point is to lure out an assassin, because that would scare off an assassin. However, I DO think there should have been SOMEONE or SOMETHING up there, so that if and when something happened, they could get eyes on whatever was going on. Hell, if anything, Jango should have been suspicious of the fact that a woman whose car was just bombed is acting like nothing is wrong and taking almost no precautions at all--he should be EXPECTING a trap at that point. It would have been smarter to set up some security but leave an opening in it, and then watch that opening. Oh, and hey, don't you love how the droid has a slot specifically to hold giant posion centipede containers? Why does it have that? Is that what banks use in this universe instead of the little tube systems?

[@mr.perhaps4734]

Thank you for blessing my long drive home

[@sigilyph_with_a_gun1184]

So what you're saying is that Nute Gunray wanted Padmé dead, but he didnt want to do it himself

[@deadlineuniverse3189]

2:51 I hate how this sequence has a similar precedent in RL, where someone hired a guy to kill someone, who proceeds to hire a guy who then hires a guy that hires a guy that in turn hires a guy who got cold feet which in the end let to all of them getting caught by police and meet each other first time at trial. So basically the worlds weirdest game of telephone

[@somethingfunny2199]

I never clicked on a notification faster

[@The_shady_puffer]

I hope this is geniune

[@somethingfunny2199]

@ Of course! I wouldn’t have been the third person to like this video if I wasn’t.

[@TheGalacticNerd19]

Daddy Sheev is back 😫

[@DirtbagLeftist9]

I’m a prequel baby. I’m 32 years old when those films came out I was 9 years old, attack of the clones is a fuking masterpiece compared to the last Jedi trust me.

[@Tirgo69]

I like The Last Jedi as its own thing

[@billjacobs521]

@@Tirgo69 Even on it's own, it's a dumb movie. Tonally confused, a villain with no explanation who just dies, the incredibly stupid chase scene, the pointless diversion to make socially commentary about rich people, bizarre character decisions, etc.

[@DirtbagLeftist9]

@ as a standalone film it’s good but as a trilogy it’s awful bro I can’t lie

[@TheInfiniteAmo]

I'm just gonna say it. I don't see the problem (conceptually) with the chain of hired hitmen and droids used to try and kill Padme, especially for a political assassination. Star Wars is a huge universe, and while the movies shrug off the question of how much anybody knows or how people stay in contact, it makes sense to me that a contract like Padme's would see some conspiracy. Everyone involved wants a degree of plausible deniability - except Zam, who Jango seems to be using as a fall guy. The biggest war profiteer in the galaxy hires the most notorious bounty hunter for a high-stakes political assassination with unlimited resources, so Jango cuts in a fall guy, keeps Dooku looped out and pockets the difference for his retirement fund. Even if Zam is a glorified courier delivering bombs and droids, that gives Jango plausible deniability. It makes sense, the movie just doesn't attempt to communicate any of the characters' logic leading up to it.

[@Cyberleader672]

16:25 To be fair there is a holographic flicker around her clothes in that scene. I don't think the implication is she is shapeshifting her clothes, it's that she shapeshifts and her clothes have a built in holographic disguise to match it

[@holocron_vfx]

So far you're the first content creator I've seen outside the VFX industry who actually understands how this job works and what's happening behind the scenes instead of becoming just another victim of clickbait journalism using VFX artists as a scapegoat when a movie sucks! I'm sick and tired of how bad journalism and studio executives pretend that we don't exist when a movie becomes a commercial success or worse, throw our work under the bus when their movie sucks. For that you have my respect and you gained one more subscriber.

[@iivin4233]

I don't blame the craftsmen. You make what the customer asks for on the timeframe that they ask for it. At least in my field, I have the law backing me up when I tell someone no. I imagine it's harder for you guys to say no, this won't work. The CGI and composting in AOTC does look bland and uninspired, though. There's a channel I'll find again that explains why hair and skin in particular, were a struggles with the techniques available. Why did the grass look so bad in Phantom Menace? Do you know? Because I actually prefer the fx in Phantom Menace over some effects in subsequent movies.

[@holocron_vfx]

@@iivin4233 It's the job of the VFX Supervisor to communicate such things and in most cases the producer is also present to talk about potential costs. A lot of it is discussed at the first meeting before the contract has been drafted to determine if working with a particular client is worth it. Sometimes it's not and the VFX house skips the project.

[@cjvoerman5591]

My biggest complaint with Episode 2 is…who the hell is Count Dookoo? He’s introduced here but doesn’t show up until 3/4 through the movie, then axed off within the first 15 minutes of Revenge of the Sith. It’s supposed to be some big reveal that the Shadowy figure leading the confederacy is Dookoo, but we don’t know him, and all the information is from what other characters say. I saw someone else’s fan rewrite that introduces Dookoo in Phantom Menace, where he presents his displeasure with the Republic and the Jedi (which also shows why Qui-Gonn is a maverick considering who his master was). Thus, when we hear about a confederacy forming from disgruntled Republican systems, it would make sense that they’d follow a jaded and disillusioned ex-Jedi.

[@billjacobs521]

True, that is a weak point. I feel Dooku in general was confused, like he was altered in rewrites and ended up a bit of a mess. One problem with the prequels in general, in my view, is that there are entire movies missing; a ton of stuff happens between each movie that we only get a few snippets of. I mean, how do you SKIP an entire war? And yeah, Dooku leaving the Jedi, forming the Separatist movement, the threats of war, fighting in the senate, Anakin's entire childhood, there's a ton of stuff here and it feels so weird not to have it. Yes, I know they made a crappy cartoon for the war, but the prequels really should have been like 5 movies.

[@Henskelion]

I remember even as a kid finding that strange, like his betrayal is revealed as though it's a twist.... even though we aren't even introduced to him as a character until almost half an hour after we're informed he's a traitor. Such baffling writing.

[@SixFootTurkey_]

39:28 whoa whoa, didn't George Lucas ask multiple people to direct the prequels? Didn't they all tell him that SW was his, and that he should direct?

[@ProstheticConscience]

Not sure where to put this one on the scale though. Picking which episode of prequels you would rather watch is like choosing which knife you wish to be stabbed with.

[@candy-ass4915]

So, I'd assume Revenge of the Sith would be a butter knife, harmlessly poking you in a comical way.

[@matthewoshea7224]

A subtitle for this video should also be: “The Sifo-Diyas Paradox”

[@luckyducky7819]

I think Yoda's a cooler character for being flawed and ultimately duped into allowing his order to be destroyed. If anything, his more wise persona in the OT is more justified because he's literally seen it all, the good and the bad, and can have the most educated opinion on that subject.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Its what makes OT Yoda & Kenobi perfect because they STILL DON'T GET IT. They STILL don't trust the force, believe in the Skywalkers, or the importance of love. They LIE and tell a son to UNKNOWINGLY MURDER his lost father. The father that was Kenobi's "brother" but he left to die alone / be rebuilt by the Sith. Either you kill him yourself or you capture him & work to convert him (you know with the only people he has left to live for, his kids, vs have him believe he has NOTHING). Yoda tried to roll over and DIE FASTER instead of tell Luke the truth! They refused to truly believe Anakin would bring balance. They refused to believe even the Chosen One could fight back the darkness and return to the light. After the whole "you want the impossible" lifting the X-Wing from the swamp scene Yoda STILL doesn't believe. But Luke did. He refused to play the "he's too dangerous to be left alive" game & give into fear. He understood he wasn't just not giving into Sidious because "it was wrong". He did it for love. And that was enough. Anakin got the one thing he always needed, someone to not walk away when he failed & believe he could do the impossible they always claimed, but never supported, he would do.

[@MovieMaster-98]

1:03:36 me and bro at 70% opacity

[@kingt0295]

Commenting on the Dexter Jexter serenade at the end to show I watched the whole thing 😭😭

[@donovan4222]

I understand it now

[@NickNui]

Attack of the clones makes a better video game than a movie. Droid Factory was a completely unnecessary scene, but it was one of the best Lego Star Wars levels.

[@shadowslayer205]

I love that Lucas claimed the reason Zam didn't use her changeling powers properly was because of budget limitations at the time, and yet this is one of the few sections Mr. "I'll recut half my movie because I forgot to put a rock in one scene" didn't touch in the special editions.

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Zam, being a professional bounty hunter, didn't use her changeling powers excessively in order to avoid being detected, prioritizing the discreet elimination of her target. It's in the movie, if you think about it for a second.

[@xlgapelsin6173]

Nitpick but the first fall from Obi after the droid is shot is very much survivable since Anakin is diving so his relative velocity is very low. If he is falling at 100km/h but Anakin is diving at 99km/h the impact is only at 1km/h as an example

[@deanjustdean7818]

Yoda using the lightsabre is not the problem (from my POV). The problem is that no thought has been given to how he will use it effectively. One minute we see him hobbling along on a cane, the next we see him swirling and spinning around like he is a twenty-something on speed. You cannot have it both ways. A more effective solution would be a new, heretofore unseen power that creates fields that can stop a lightsabre blade, "laser" blast, etc, and the use of the force to swing one or more lightsares around like puppets. People will say that this is contradicting the "knowledge and defense" thing, but Yoda is defending both himself and two wounded Jedi. As well as the Republic.

[@wephilips6651]

1:57 I was literally thinking yesterday about the boba fett story from tales from the bounty hunters and how much I loved that as an origin story and what how it ends in such a wistful melancholic ambiguous note…definitely worth a reread!

[@EPPicstuff]

18:16 Well, the entire movie is ABOUT deception. It's all about characters trying to hide from each other, trick each other. Padme uses stand-ins. Count Dooku's trying to kill her in secret. Anakin and Padme have to go on the run under disguises. An entire clone army was created in secret. Jango tries to hide the fact he's the bounty hunter Obi-Wan's looking for. Kamino, an ENTIRE PLANET was wiped from the Jedi archives! And of course Palpatine is deceiving the Republic and the Separatists into starting a war. There are many more examples of this theme permeating in this film if you look for it. Zam Wessel being a changeling is just another small externalization of that theme of deception. No, it doesn’t change the story that much, but it's better than if she didn't have the shape-shifting ability. Then she would just be Jango Fett 2.

[@MajorTomFisher]

Chekov's Gun refers to a principle in moviemaking that if you leave a gun on the wall in a scene, it should be fired by the end of the scene. This is just basic setup and payoff. Zam Wessel's shapeshifting ability is an example of a failure to apply Chekov's Gun: her ability only serves to advance the "theme" of the movie and doesn't hint at anything else relevant. It's just useless information distracting the viewer. (It's also bizarre she doesn't use the ability at all during the many times it would've been useful. Wouldn't tracking down a shapeshifter make for a more interesting mystery than just a character who has the ability to deceive but telegraphs her every move?) The fact that she would just be a Jango Fett 2 if this ability was cut shouldn't indicate to you that the ability is a good addition, it should indicate to you that she should have been cut from the film and her character replaced like Sheev suggested. The themes of a movie should _never_ overwrite the general principles of storytelling. Compelling characters, a cohesive plot, setup and payoff... these things are the foundation, support beams, walls, and roof of a movie. The theme is just the interior decoration. If the interior decorator decides to sacrifice a support beam in order to make more room, the roof is going to collapse. Similarly, if the movie's essential components are sacrificed in the name of the theme, then the theme will only be undermined by this loss.

[@ejn8982]

But Chekhov’s gun ISN’T a useful narrative principal, as Chekhov himself broke his own rule in The Cherry Orchard precisely in the name of THEMES. Zam’s species is world building. It‘s a cool and logical bit of lore that the assassin is a shapeshifter. Why is Han Solo’s copilot a Wookiee? Where was the pay off for when we were told he can rip people’s arms off in A New Hope?

[@EPPicstuff]

@@ejn8982 That lends to the argument that if you're having an inconsequential character anyways, you might as well try to spice them up and make them as surface level interesting as you can. It's not great storytelling, but it's interesting filmmaking. Like, Chewie is basically the team dog. He was inspired by his real life dog, Indiana. He fills his archetype of the the big loyal tough guy. Characterwise, in A New Hope at least, he has moments where he questions Han. Most notably, when Han tells Luke he's not helping with the Death Star Attack, Chewie whines a roar at him, to which he hallowly responds, "I know what I'm doing." In this moment he represents Han's self-doubt. But I don't think we should throw out Chekov's Gun outright. It's just another useful tool in the storyteller's toolkit. While Chewbacca doesn't rip anyone's arms off, the line establishes him as strong before he uses that strength in the death star against stormtroopers. It also adds an air of threat and menace around him, which by association bolsters the sense of danger Mos Eisley Cantina exudes as a whole.

[@ejn8982]

@@EPPicstuff Exactly. It just creates a sense of who the characters are, and specifically creates suspense in this scene in episode 2.

[@EPPicstuff]

@@MajorTomFisher (Nods in agreement)

[@loomers4232]

1:32:02 -- I do agree with this point immensely, but I do like the idea that Yoda, the Grandmaster of the Jedi, is so stuck in tradition and the Jedi ways that he, and by extension, the Jedi, fail to adapt like the Sith, ultimately leading to their defeat. I could see that Yoda was trained by Jedi whom have seen the Sith and what they're capable of, without being exposed to that himself. So they taught him to adhere to the Jedi Code and Tradition cause that's what worked at the time to defeat the Sith. And given how old he is, he became more and more dogmatic with age. Not to suggest your point is wrong. Cause it's not. I think a Yoda whom HAS seen what the Sith has done, and losing more and more of his principles would be in theme to what George Lucas liked to do, create parallels in his story. After all, in the original trilogy, the heroes were fighting against the people in stark white armor. But in the Prequels, they're fighting WITH the people in stark white armor.

[@MrChristophSteininge]

There is a massive hole in the plot. The jedi learned that one of their number ordered a massive number of warlike clones from a planet they did not know even that it existed. The number of open questions is staggering. Such an old organizations with many councils and subccommittees for control and double check does not see fit to exercise some oversight, particularly over financial matters? Where did the money come to pay for the clones? Where did the jedi master who ordered them know about the Kaminoans and that they are masters of the cloning arts? It is clear, in hindsight, that Seifo Dyas used funds from Hego Demask (Darth Plagueis), one of the richest men in the galaxy. But were there no inquieries from jedi councils, particularly about the details pertaining to the deal? (Like sleeper orders progammed into the clones, neatly numbered). Yoda went to Kamino to pick up a great number of them for the battle of Geonosis. But where did he get the drop ships and other implements of war, like troop transporters and the like? All this from a republic that had no formal military force that he could commandeer.

[@acenewholland564]

I've discovered your channel with the clone wars double long videos. It was a pleasure hearing both good, but mostly bad points, while still enjoying the base material as what it is and I'm happy this continues, not because I like someone critisizing a movie to the opposite of internet's actual saying (since before the sequel, they were THE easy target for bad movies with transformers), but because your opinion is balanced, you say stuff that work, stuff that doesn't, without justifying with UE, but with the movies themselves alone, something we should all do, but also what you like and dislike. I know this may have sound dumb but I hope to see other videos, they are refreshing yet not arsh or anything, just fun and interesting. (also your critics sound sometimes like OT kenobi/yoda riddles haha)

[@shinymk6562]

I think with reviewing the PT, people need to review both the in universe and meta reasons behind decisions. Let's take the worms for example. In universe, they allow for a quiet death that wouldn't be discovered till morning, by then the Bounty Hunters would be gone and basically untraceable besides possibly maybe finding out where they got the worms. (Even so they would either be traced back to a planet or maybe a black market seller. Given how we don't know the degrees of separation between where/how Jango got the worms, it can be seen as a flaw in the story as it doesn't justify itself, but it also could. More of a possible contrivance than a plot hole imo.) ---You said that Jango would know that there are two Jedi guarding her, but we have no reason to assume he would or wouldn't so I don't believe this is a fair assessment. Anakin even mentions how their sole role of guarding/protection here as opposed to an investigation is odd/beneath a Jedi, although given how he is a padawan it is unclear if this is 100% true and Obi is just dogmatically going with the council because it would be in character of him to do so, (even if the task is "overkill for a Jedi" as Anakin says) or if Anakin is just being personal and wants to justify a reason to catch the person responsible for trying to assassinate one of the few people Anakin has a close connection with. The Meta-reason is George wanted to reference the classic trope of using an insect, or even just animal such as a snake to kill an important main character in a film, such as James Bond. Now meta reasons are cool as they can give appreciation to things in movies, however they shouldn't clash with the in-universe story/logic. Once you know the whole picture, it is easier to asses a film imo because you can understand the reasons decisions were made, and then evaluate if they were good decisions or if they ended up hampering the film/plot by preventing something that would make more sense in universe. My personal assessment is that the assassination attempt is flawed and does have contradict Jango's reputation of a super skilled bounty hunter, (while I could see someone like Zam making this blunder, Jango was the one who supplied the worms,) there are reasons in universe why they would want a quiet death that would allow them to escape and law low for a while.)

[@orphanedhanyou]

Is the point to kill her (which wouldn't be a bad outcome either for Palpatine) or to get the Jedi involved? Does Palpatine need the Jedi to "discover" Dooku & that happens not by killing Padme but having the threat of her life appear to escalate. Also Jango had Zam do this job. He had HER perform blunder. Was that intentional by him or intentional in instructions by Dooku? Dooku wants to be found because 1) his master needs that to happen 2) he wants Obi-Wan as an apprentice (whether he thinks that is a likely outcome I doubt he did).

[@doctorofskillz2932]

Couldn't the droid have used a dart? Plus if the droid didn't pointlessly return to the changeling, then the jedi would have no leads on who killed padme, which is what nute and possibly dooku wanted

[@LegendaryDorkKnight]

I don't think it's that egregious that Obi-Wan is hesitant to tell the Council about Anakin's attachment to Padme. If something like that is discovered and it becomes an insurmountable obstacle in Anakin's development as a jedi (which it does in a way, aided by various other factors) then Anakin might either lose his place as a Jedi or worse have exceptions made for him because of the prophecy.

[@joewaugh2464]

1:32:57 you also have to consider that the balrog is mostly fire and a smokey silhouette with very harsh underground lighting. Yoda has skin and muscles that need to properly bounce light and move believably. Same reason iron man in 2008 still holds up but the first few Hulks don't.

[@thehobowizard]

26:53 Everything surrounding the Sifo Dyas bit is where the film truly loses me. We know it was originally supposed to be Sidious but there was a typo in the script and George ran with it. But that was a huge mistake IMO because it makes it impossible for this film to explain the Clone Wars, even though that is sort of the point. Sifo Dyas in general just creates far too many issues that weakens the overall movie canon.

[@lukescrew1981]

You really need to play KOTOR especially the second game. I feel like you would either love it or hate it there's no in between

[@brooke9446]

I would be very interested to hear what Sheev has to say about those games, *especially* the second one.

[@lukescrew1981]

@brooke9446 I know right?

[@thatoneguy8146]

Did someone mention Kotor I love Kotor best writing in Star Wars

[@publichearing8536]

​@@thatoneguy8146Kotor 2: most pretentious writing in Star Wars

[@henryneubert7798]

​@@publichearing8536You're silly 😊

[@Snellythedog]

0:27 Guilty of Charge. Thanks Sheev

[@HMMadsen]

1:06:31 - 1:06:46 I mean 3PO in the OT wouldn't remember that R2 tried to kill him given that he did get a memory wipe in Episode III

[@SheevTalks]

And?

[@HMMadsen]

​@@SheevTalks Given that you reply with "And?", I may very well have misunderstood what you meant with this section of the video. I just took the line, "I guess Threeps didn't get the memo though" as a somewhat jokish but still serious enough remark on how it doesn't make sense that 3PO would care so much about R2 and view him as a good friend in the OT when R2 tried to kill him in Episode II, even though 3PO in the OT wouldn't remember this event because of his memory wipe in Episode III. If the "I guess Threeps didn't get the memo though" line was solely meant as a joke with nothing else to it, then I apologise for the miss interpretation

[@sblinder1978]

56:16 That man is Owen Lars, he was in the desert with my mom when she was researching tusken right before she died.

[@blackbirdboy]

"Molten lava" that's molten steel, bro lol

[@EPPicstuff]

19:17 Blasters are LOUD. Tiny darts are quiet. Also, characters making decisions or not thinking of decisions you would've made isn't bad writing. Jango is introduced in this movie, so his level of intelligence doesn’t contradict any pre-established instances of assumed higher intelligence from the character.

[@SheevTalks]

A) Blasters are loud, but they’re also quick. And the droid can self-destruct immediately so discretion is hardly the main priority here. Also you just mentioned darts, which would have worked just as well, so there you go. Alternative solution to the problem. B) Jango is meant to be characterized as an intelligent professional. Acting like his stupidity is an intended character trait is disingenuous-and it bleeds into the intellect of characters like Dooku and Palpatine that they would entrust a stupid person with important assignments. C) Not arguing that the writing is bad because they didn’t make the same decisions I would have. Don’t pull that card

[@EPPicstuff]

@SheevTalks A) Jango used a poison dart to kill Zam. I didn't propose that as an alternative solution, that's what Jango did in the movie. B) Jango is MEANT to be characterized as INTELLIGENT professional? I don't think this moment makes him a binary intelligent or stupid. He's a simple man trying to make his way in the universe. So he didn't realize his poison darts could track back to him while he was staying on a planet that the galaxy didn't realize even existed. That doesn't make him an idiot, and I don't doubt him as a professional. AND like you said, he's likely not aware of the larger plan made by Dooku and Palpatine. So this decision DOESN'T reflect on them. C) Your argument is all with the assumption that it's common knowledge among bounty hunters in the Star Wars universe that their weapon ammunition can be traced back to them. Like, in real life, would most people dig that deeply into where an assassins get their specialized bullets from? Not unless you're also an assassin or a detective in the loop, like Obi-wan turns out to be. D) From a writer's standpoint, coincidence does not always mean bad. What matters here isn't Jango's characterization, it's Obi-Wan's. What do we learn about Obi-Wan? We learn he's intelligent enough to realize he can trace the dart back to the assassin. We learn the kind of people he knows outside of the jedi order, Dexter Jettster. We learn he's relaxed and friendly to him, in contrast with how stoic he is with the order and how stern and sarcastic he is with Anakin. And at least it's Obi-Wan seeking out Dexter as part of his own investigation. Imagine if in the movie, before Obi-Wan and Anakin were even assigned to protect Padme, Dexter randomly holocalled up Obi-Wan and said, "Oh hi Kenobi! Long time no see! I just wanted to call and warn you, I heard this bounty hunter named Jango Fett bought all these poison darts, and I think he's going to try to kill senator Padme tonight!" That would be a coincidence that would actively hurt the plot and characterization, unlike how it is in the movie where it slowly progresses the plot and develops characterization.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Concur.

[@SheevTalks]

A) I think you’re getting confused about what point we’re talking about. Yes, Jango shoots Zam with a dart, but we’re referring to the attempt they’re making on Padmé-in which a quiet dart would be a GREAT alternative option to a blaster if discretion is really the order of the day (preferably, of course, one that DOESN’T have markings which can be used to trace back to Jango’s home base, but I have it on good authority that that’s a detail that professional bounty hunters are likely to not consider) B) Yes, Jango is MEANT to be characterized as an intelligent professional. If you’re trying to argue otherwise, I’m gonna stop you right there. As for whether this decision reflects negatively on his intellect, uh…yes? “The rest of the galaxy didn’t even know Kamino existed.” Yes they did. Literally the only place where Kamino was erased from the records was the Jedi Archives-which Jango obviously couldn’t have known about, so that simply shouldn’t factor into his decision-making. As for the last point you made in this section, about how he doesn’t know about the larger plan so this somehow absolves him…I’m not really sure how we reached that conclusion so I can’t exactly argue against it. Kind of a random leap to conclusion. C) In real life, professional hit men and other criminal types know that the weapons they use can be traced back to them if they’re not careful about where they get them and how they use them. (Scratching out serial numbers on firearms, customizing ammo, that sort of thing) The idea that bounty hunters in Star Wars somehow WOULDN’T account for something like that is absurd. D) You’re deciding arbitrarily which aspects of the story are “more important” to get right-which, even if I were to agree, doesn’t mean the other aspects don’t also matter and should therefore be criticized when they make mistakes. Jango’s characterization it’s important for a lot of different facets of this story and the incompetence he employs when serving as a threat to our heroes undermines the stakes. The contrivance that facilitates Obi-Wan finding out where the dart is from is still a contrivance, and that’s an issue…even if it “established” Obi-Wan has criminal connections (which you can easily do without resorting to plot contrivances, so let’s not pull the false dichotomy)

[@EPPicstuff]

@SheevTalks I don't think it's about discretion either. I'm presupposing the idea that Jango wasn't planning to kill Zam, even if he consider it as a precaution. So when he saw Zam was going to sell him out, in a split second decision he shot her and flew away. He shot a quiet dart instead of a loud blaster because it would give him just that much of a extra chance to get away faster. In all honesty, I don't think there's enough context in the scene to definitely to say my interpretation or your interpretation of the scene is the intended one, since Jango is shrouded in so much mystery. The Jedi don't know Kamino exists. Maybe Jango just didn't suspect a Jedi would have a contact with someone who would know Kamino existed. Jango doesn't need to be a meticulous planner for this story to function. Not every character needs to make the most logical decision, they just need their internal logic to be consistent. It's kind of like how unlike Batman the DCEU isn't depicted as anything above averagely intelligent. He wants to kill Superman, so he steals Kryptonite to make weapons to kill him. Not terribly gripping, but it makes sense. Is Batman automatically a better character when he's the super genius always thinks up contingency plan? I prefer it, but that's subjective. Jango Fett isn't stupid. That's all I'm trying to say. My objective isn't to prove that this plotpoint is great or very inspired. It's that the plotpoint isn't bad, it's serviceable, and it progresses the plot forward in a reasonably valid way. Btw, just to show I'm trying to play fair here, I agree with every other point you make in this video from your thoughts on the Anakin/Padme romance onward.

[@charlesmartinez5869]

1:25:00 It's not that Yoda swinging a saber doesn't make sense, it's that it looks and feels silly. You can make Yoda act silly if you want, but I'd prefer if you didn't. As for the idea that Jedi would join the separatists for political reasons, that's interesting, but now I'd take it even further: Make Dooku -actually- just a political idealist, equally duped by Palpatine, or at least powerless to convince anyone that the Republic is compromised. Have the jedi order split near down the middle, adding to the tragedy, and mixing in more opportunities for Force user antagonists.

[@donovan4222]

@@charlesmartinez5869 A Jedi civil war orchestrated by Palpatine would of been super cool, and it would be even cooler for Dooku to be more of a tragic character that is correct about the republic but is duped by Palpatine. Sadly George decided to not really tell any story until the 3rd movie lmao

[@VoltaVoid]

Liking this movie online is a hard thing to do nowadays….

[@HahaDamn]

Th prequels are all good films, it’s insane that we let a bunch of raging 30-40 year old nerds that never matured in terms of their film taste beyond what they consumed as children decide what is and isn’t good filmmaking. Watch any of the RLM films, they are embarrassingly bad, unfunny, unscary, whatever tone they were trying to execute it was a complete failure. I don’t mind Mike and Jay listening to them talk shit, but they aren’t into film the way Lucas and his contemporaries were.

[@Sire_Rotom_of_Rotomsbourg]

was it ever easy?

[@CMReina]

It's way easier now, when I was a kid I'd only see nothing but hate for this movie and it made me feel bad because I couldn't see what was bad about this one, if anything it's gotten better now with the younger millennials and gen Zs growing up and having more earnest enjoyment for them, having the sequels as a cheap punching bag helps too.

[@joe_floyd]

GOOD. you should be exiled from society for unironically liking this mess.

[@lukescrew1981]

@@HahaDamn True

[@PecanBun]

14:40 I think this choice is a little defensible. If you're aware of all the Jedi's most commonplace abilities, you've probably heard that they can deflect blaster fire. On the other hand, it's much less common for Jedi to demonstratably survive bottomless pits. Thus, from the perspective of an assassin, it might make more sense to shoot the droid.

[@asliceofloaf1984]

I love the Clone Wars but I also love your channel and trust you to give fair and unbiased criticisms ahhhh, this is gonna be a difficult video for me to watch... 😩

[@YeTism]

I love attack of the clones. It’s my 2nd favorite Star Wars movie

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones is one of the best movies in the Star Wars saga, a superb, extremely rich and exciting movie, a brilliant, magnificent, important movie that's so underrated despite being insanely rich, exploiting the Star Wars universe (it develops its narrative on a grand scale, introducing complex politics, conflicts, and relationships, which enrich the lore), all the infinite possibilities of this magnificent universe, and it's also an important film in the evolution of digital cinema (pioneering the use of digital cameras and pushing the boundaries of CGI to create immersive environments). Lots of iconic scenes, the attacks on Senator Amidala, the bounty hunters, the magnificent atmosphere on Coruscant with the dinner, the nightclub, a highly original cyberpunk atmosphere (this blend of sci-fi and noir aesthetics elevates Coruscant's depiction, making it feel alive and dynamic), the speeder chase over Coruscant with Zam the bounty hunter, the hunt for the bounty hunters (a thrilling and visually stunning sequence that showcases character resourcefulness and advanced world-building) Obi-Wan's investigation, which leads him to Kamino, the discovery of the clone army to establish Palpatine's plan (a pivotal moment unveiling Palpatine's masterstroke and its eventual impact on the galaxy), the music during the training of the clone troops (John Williams’ score adds gravitas and emotional depth, enhancing the narrative) the cyberpunk ambience of Coruscant with Dex's dinner, the night club, making the universe richer, livelier and more diverse (this attention to detail immerses in the vastness of the Star Wars world) the superb Across the Stars music for the doomed love (John Williams’ composition beautifully underscores the tragic romance of Anakin and Padmé), a tragic love story that's destined to end badly, a magnificent story that forms a great Shakespearean tragedy (mirroring classical themes of hubris, fate, and forbidden love). Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman and Christopher Lee are all perfect, cult and iconic on their characters (Ewan McGregor’s portrayal brings warmth and charisma to Obi-Wan, Natalie Portman adds elegance and strength to Padmé, while Christopher Lee’s Count Dooku exudes menace and sophistication), always giving them strength, poise, charm, charisma, strong screen presence and complexity, we can't imagine anyone else embodying these extraordinary characters from Star Wars and film history the Republic's great clone army, the clone troopers, an invaluable addition to the Star Wars universe and lore. Naboo is an extraordinary planet, one of the best in the saga along with Coruscant, the paradisiacal atmosphere with the gardens, the magnificent, sunny photography, the romantic, detective story mixed with action and adventure, the homages to serials, peplums, detective movies, making this one of the most complete films in the entire Star Wars saga. Everything is exciting from start to finish, there's never a dull moment (a masterful pacing balance between action, intrigue and emotional depth) the fight against Jango Fett, the seismic charges in the asteroid field, spectacular, pure genius in a saga where there's sound in space (these sequences showcase George Lucas’s innovative sound design, heightening the sensory impact) Jango Fett, Count Dooku, the iconic antagonists of this episode (both characters add layers of intrigue and danger, enriching the saga's narrative complexity) the introduction of the separatists, the conflict, the beginnings of the war, the best, most exciting and important period in the entire Star Wars saga (it marks the collapse of the Republic and the seeds of the Empire, heightening the stakes), the political tensions that begin to build on both sides (mirroring real-world politics, the nuanced depiction adds depth and realism). The film also presents Anakin's first steps towards the dark side of the Force (showing his internal conflict, fear, and vulnerability, humanizing his tragic descent), the death of Shmi Skywalker, a milestone in the character's evolution (this moment is crucial in shaping Anakin’s motivations and fears), the massacre of the village of Tuskens, which leads him to the dark side of the Force, he will be tormented by the fear of losing Padmé as he lost his mother (this fear becomes a recurring motif that eventually drives him to betrayal). The world building is incredible, stratospheric, an extraordinary expansion, a greater opening to the world, an unparalleled opening of the Star Wars universe, and technological advancement to create new worlds, new world building, new peoples, new technologies and new civilizations (the film introduces new planets, cultures, and political dynamics, which add depth and richness to the saga). Anakin's return to his home planet is a milestone. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Padmé Amidala and Mace Windu are incredible, iconic and perfect characters in the Star Wars saga, magnificent mythical and very endearing characters. The battle of Geonosis, a great memorable battle in this movie, which launches the beginnings of the Clone Wars (the large-scale battle sets the stage for future conflicts while showcasing impressive choreography), the fights in the arena, Padmé and Mace Windu so strong and badass, the fights with the Jedi, Yoda who arrives at the last moment to save everyone, the beginnings of the war (this turning point marks the collapse of diplomacy and the rise of war). The pursuit and confrontation with Count Dooku, Obi-Wan and Anakin, then the arrival of Yoda (the duel highlights Yoda’s combat prowess and Dooku’s cunning), the secret wedding on Naboo (a bittersweet moment foreshadowing the tragedy to come) everything is superb and exciting. Yoda is strong and badass, he kicks ass, he saves heroes, Padmé is incredible, strong, badass, courageous and beautiful, funny and elegant (her leadership and bravery are central to the film, showing her as more than just a love interest), she exudes a greater femininity, she's funny, endearing, with greater class, as beautiful as ever, while being a real badass and courageous woman who defends her freedom, the story of Anakin Skywalker is one of the most beautiful stories of all time, a magnificent tragic story (a tale of ambition, love and downfall), the Lore is extraordinary, extremely rich, gigantic, with infinite possibilities, very detailed and well supplied, the Jedi Order, the Clone Wars, the Sith, political evolution, the Republic, Palpatine's manipulations to bring down the Republic and annihilate the Jedi. The number of peoples, of world building and civilizations, a truly extensive, gigantic, extremely rich universe, with infinite possibilities, that makes you want to travel and explore (the meticulous details immerse in a living, breathing galaxy). Everything is exciting in the Star Wars prequel, which is the best Star Wars trilogy, the richest, the most complete, the most exciting, the most elaborate and the most rich in Lore, in diversity, in background, in development, in world building and in content as well as the advance of digital cinema, the creation of high-definition digital cameras and the advance of digital special effects to create new worlds, new technologies, new environments and new peoples, long before James Cameron's Avatar (George Lucas’s innovations laid the groundwork for modern blockbuster filmmaking). George Lucas revolutionized digital technologies for Star Wars world-building.

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Star Wars I-VI are the true cult classic wonderful movies that built the legend of the Star Wars universe, the Skywalker saga, Star Wars world building, iconic characters, world expansion and exploration, the diversity of peoples, planets, environments, creatures, and digital technologies revolution, a great galactic epic in six wonderful parts, the story of Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one destined to bring balance to the Force, the rise and fall of a hero who succumbs to fear, anger and the temptation of the dark side, his quest to save those he loved, leading him to become Darth Vader, and how he ultimately redeems himself through the love of his son, the story of a democracy slowly corrupted into a dictatorship, as Palpatine manipulates fear and crisis to seize absolute power, until the fall of the Empire and the restoration of the Republic's order through Anakin's sacrifice, ending with the liberation of all the planets of the Star Wars world, the wonderful Star Wars galaxy, the work of its creator, two wonderful facets that form an inseparable seamless whole of the Star Wars galaxy, the six original movies of the Star Wars universe, the creativity of world-building, the perfectionist visionary genius, wonderful creative vision and incredible fantastic infinite imagination of George Lucas, and Star Wars I-VI will never be beaten.

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are the best Star Wars movies, the best period, the best world-building, the best characters, the duology of the Clone Wars, the Jedi order, the rise of the Sith, the intergalactic universe politics of the Star Wars world and Anakin's tragic fall to the dark side of the Force.

[@JonCrs10]

Isn't most of the weirdness involving the assassin chase a holdover from the fact this is inspired by adventure serials where "the protagonist just happens to know a guy who knows really esoteric trivia and that helps solve the mystery that otherwise was legitimately unsolvable if the protagonist's contact didnt exist" was a common trope. A lot of the weirdness in Star Wars, especially the prequels, is usually just Pulp Tropes George Liked because this is his homage to the genre. Same with the goofiness of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, nuking the fridge is just as absurd as falling out of the plane in Temple of Doom but NOT dying because inflatable raft. This stuff is pulp adventure serial bread and butter. Might as well complain that Q never gives Bond gadgets that dont help in the slightest because "gee, isnt it convenient how Q just happened to know this exact scenario would happen and so this particular gadget would be the perfect solution." Same thing. No I'm not saying its good, I'm saying why its a deliberate artistic choice as part of homage to an older style. And thats a completely different criteria because I'm sure people into their old adventure serials can show plenty of times this writing was done poorly in the context of the wider genre.

[@ejn8982]

It’s also just not a bad plan in the first place. The only reason it failed is because the Jedi sensed the worms, something Zam and Jango obviously wouldn’t account for. Also, Jango outsourcing to another assassin is actually a good way to cover his traces.

[@TeeJayRivers]

It feels so cathartic to listen to someone pick apart that stupid droid factory scene. It's such a confusing, disorienting mess that only serves to bring characters from point A to point A.

[@jaydenlobbe7911]

1:09:50 I think the "Barrel thing being filled up with Molten Lava" is supposed to be a very large Crucible, or something like a Crucible, but I don't know why it's being filled with an already Molten material, a Crucible is a container in which Metal or other Substances may be melted at very high temperatures, although you don't normally pour Molten Material into a Crucible, rather you place the Material into the Crucible as a Solid and then heat it up to melt it

[@ElementZephyr]

Sheev doesn't like sand.

[@ven1568]

18:06 you said it yourself. It’s a “very cool and unique ability.” Lucas has always put unnecessary stuff in his movies for sake of being “cool” for kids

[@ItsToColdInMN]

Idc what anyone says this movie was fun i love all the prequels

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

George Lucas’s Star Wars prequels are a pure masterpiece, a magnificent, exciting, and incredibly rich work that has greatly contributed to the story, universe, characters, lore, and mythology of Star Wars. They are the greatest movies-a thrilling, cult classic trilogy from beginning to end. These are the Star Wars movies George Lucas always intended to make, and they are the best, most complete, and richest of all the Star Wars trilogies. Everything is superb: the deepening of the Star Wars universe and its narrative elements is stunning and engaging. The detailed exploration of the Clone Wars, a pivotal moment in Star Wars history, is fascinating. The period of the Clone Wars is the best era in the Star Wars saga. The gripping storyline develops throughout the films, with the rise of Palpatine (Darth Sidious) portrayed masterfully. His behind-the-scenes machinations to undermine the Galactic Republic and bring the galaxy under his control are meticulously shown. His manipulation to create a massive clone army and wipe out the Jedi with Order 66 is central to the story, explaining how the Galactic Empire came to be after the fall of the Republic and how Anakin turned to the dark side, becoming Darth Vader. Anakin’s fall, driven by his desire to save those he loved, is tragic and profound. His transformation into Darth Vader is a breathtaking, iconic scene. The connection to the original trilogy is seamlessly handled. Anakin’s internal conflict-torn between his loyalty to the Jedi Order and his desire to protect those he loves-makes his story deep and tragic. Key moments such as his confrontation with Count Dooku and his heartbreaking final duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar heighten the drama. The prequels also brought invaluable depth to the Star Wars universe, offering detailed insight into the Jedi Order, the training of Padawans, the Sith, and Jedi teachings. The focus on the Sith and their philosophy strengthened the dark side of the Force, adding layers of depth and complexity to the saga. The political aspect of the prequel trilogy introduces a new dimension to Star Wars, with Palpatine’s machinations in the Galactic Senate and the growing tensions between planetary systems, creating a richer context for the events of the Original Trilogy-the rise of the Empire, the fall of the Republic, the extinction of the Jedi, and the tragic story of Anakin Skywalker. The expansion of the Star Wars universe is also amazing, with new planets, races, creatures, and cultures. The introduction of Dug, Gungans, Toydarians, Kaminoans, the underwater city, the Queen’s palace, the Galactic Senate, the cloning facility, and planets like Naboo and Coruscant-all of which are among the best-help create a larger, more diverse world. Iconic locations such as Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Felucia, and Mustafar provide visually captivating settings for action scenes, plot development, and key moments in the story. The trilogy also gave us legendary characters like Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padmé Amidala, Qui-Gon Jinn, Mace Windu, General Grievous, Jango Fett, and more. The action scenes and lightsaber battles are some of the most memorable in the saga. Epic battles such as the Battle of Geonosis, the podrace on Tatooine, the Battle of Naboo, and the Battle over Coruscant are iconic, visually stunning, and filled with emotional stakes, involving characters we’ve grown to love. Lightsaber duels between legendary figures like Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Darth Maul, and Yoda are executed with exceptional choreography, adding visceral energy to the story. The duel on Naboo, the clash with Count Dooku, Yoda’s fight with Darth Sidious in the Senate, Darth Maul’s encounter, and the tragic brotherly battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin are unforgettable. These episodes also enriched Star Wars lore with charismatic new characters, unforgettable music like 'Duel of the Fates,' 'Across the Stars,' and 'Battle of the Heroes,' a fascinating and expansive mythology, and a cast of talented actors, including Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, and Liam Neeson. Natalie Portman is stunning, graceful, and charismatic as Padmé Amidala, queen and senator of Naboo. She brings strength, determination, and courage to her role, evolving from a queen to a senator and eventually into a strong, elegant, and determined woman-a central feature of the trilogy. Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson deliver a classy and memorable presence onscreen, and their dynamic as Jedi Masters is palpable, conveying wisdom and resolve that ground the story in Jedi heritage. Christopher Lee’s presence as Count Dooku adds a touch of class, elegance, and charisma, enhanced by his Shakespearean delivery. The Star Wars prequels were the revival of the Star Wars saga, bringing real dramatic weight, political context, meaningful stakes, new and iconic characters, and thrilling action scenes. They vastly expanded the Star Wars universe, making it more diverse and richly developed, with a lore that perfectly complements the Original Trilogy and is inseparable from it. These Star Wars episodes are masterpieces that form an incredible whole, a single, exceptional galactic epic. It is the story of Anakin Skywalker-from his training as a Jedi to his fall to the dark side, and ultimately his redemption in saving his son, destroying the Sith, and bringing balance to the Force. It’s also the story of the Galactic Empire, once a democratic Republic, and Palpatine’s rise from senator to emperor of the galaxy-his manipulation to secure his authority in the Senate, create his own Empire, destroy the Jedi Order, and keep Anakin as his apprentice. Furthermore, this trilogy marked a major advancement in digital filmmaking, modern technologies, editing, and special effects, allowing the creation of new worlds, incredible world-building, and the extraordinary narrative of the Star Wars prequels. Like Avatar, it is a vast, rich, and unlimited universe that explores new planets, civilizations, technologies, and worlds. This trilogy is the greatest, more far-reaching, more fantastc, in Star Wars, as George Lucas was able to build his universe exactly as he envisioned it. Without the prequels, the Star Wars universe would not be as interesting, vast, developed, or as exciting and rich as it is today.

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Star Wars Episodes 1, 2, and 3 are the greatest movies in the Star Wars universe. They are a legendary and essential work, pivotal in shaping the world of Star Wars, representing the best the franchise has to offer in every aspect. From Episodes I to VI, all the Star Wars movies are masterpieces-iconic, stunning, incredibly rich, exciting, and timeless. These movies remain unmatched, defining the pinnacle of science fiction with the best characters, actors, casting, scenes, universe, and storytelling. The depth, the expansion, and the sheer creativity of this universe are unparalleled, with its planets, environments, creatures, and civilizations revolutionizing cinema with groundbreaking technology, digital effects, and editing advancements. Together, these two epic trilogies form a perfect, magical, and exceptional whole-an inseparable part of a grand, unified story: the tale of Anakin Skywalker, his journey from a Jedi to the dark side, and his ultimate redemption through self-sacrifice to save his son, destroy the Sith, and restore balance to the Force. It’s also the rise and fall of a dictatorship, showing the transformation of a democracy into tyranny, all set in a vast, sprawling universe that is breathtakingly rich and endlessly creative. Star Wars Episodes I through VI tell the same story, set in the same universe-George Lucas’s singular vision of an extraordinary science fiction saga. Both trilogies are integral to the Star Wars world, two sides of the same galaxy. These two monumental trilogies are masterpieces that have greatly contributed to building the universe and lore of Star Wars as we know it today. They are legendary, exciting, and iconic works of science fiction, the crowning achievement of George Lucas. Six incredible movies that together form an inseparable whole.

[@JakeSkywalker-o7h]

Star Wars I-VI are the true cult classic wonderful movies that built the legend of the Star Wars universe, the Skywalker saga, Star Wars world building, iconic characters, world expansion and exploration, the diversity of peoples, planets, environments, creatures, and digital technologies revolution, a great galactic epic in six wonderful parts, the story of Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one destined to bring balance to the Force, the rise and fall of a hero who succumbs to fear, anger and the temptation of the dark side, his quest to save those he loved, leading him to become Darth Vader, and how he ultimately redeems himself through the love of his son, the story of a democracy slowly corrupted into a dictatorship, as Palpatine manipulates fear and crisis to seize absolute power, until the fall of the Empire and the restoration of the Republic's order through Anakin's sacrifice, ending with the liberation of all the planets of the Star Wars world, the wonderful Star Wars galaxy, the work of its creator, two wonderful facets that form an inseparable whole of the Star Wars galaxy, the six original movies of the Star Wars universe, the creativity of world-building, the perfectionist visionary genius, wonderful creative vision and incredible fantastic imagination of George Lucas, and Star Wars I-VI will never be beaten.

[@JackJames.]

I absolutely love your idea with Dooku. Plus more Christopher Lee is never a bad thing.

[@SpFlash1523]

Since Lucas co-wrote Episode 2 with Jonathan Hales, and since Lucas wrote Episode 1, Episode 3, and Episode 4 by himself, doesn't that ironically show that he probably should've written Episode 2 by himself?

[@keshonhend2047]

Deleted scenes can’t be canon. At all. Unless you want to believe that Shaak Ti was killed by Grievous on the Invisible Hand and then again by Anakin at the Jedi Temple.

[@Emerald_Raven08]

Somehow, shaak to returned

[@neutralmob4739]

58:21 Would have been better if Anakin just said they killed his mother and was sad, and Padmé was there to suport him (and then we get a flash back, were he kills the hold villages, but dose not teal her about that part)

[@marcusjackson9076]

Outstanding. The "Kim and Jimmy" aspect of what could have been Anakin and Padme was on my mind and would have worked much better. I don't hate AOTC but of all the prequels, it seems like the most wasted potential was here.

[@Dr_Pachacamac]

Hating on the prequels is so 2012

[@guiwom7692]

true

[@victorwagner2423]

I feel like the idea of Padme being okay with killing Tuscan Raiders is kinda misrepresented. Raiders kidnap innocent people all over the planet and work them to death in horrible conditions. Locals seem to accept a fact of life. It never rains and sometimes you get tortured to death by indigenous people. Now imagine your childhood friend, that you have some romantic feeling for, finds out that his mother was captured by those butchers. He drops everything, comes back 2 days later with a corpse, visible sign of torture all over. Corpse of one of the kindest people you've ever met. Who, in their right mind, then hears "I had to kill a bunch of them to get my mother out, but I was too late" and goes "uuhhhmmm, that's genocide, sweaty... you should educate yourself". So the question is really "Can Padme forgive her (boy)friend for going overboard while trying to save his mother from fate worse than death at the hands of horrible slavers?" All the while he is on the verge of tears over loosing control and the unfairness of it all. Remembering that Padme also took up arms to free her people. To convince me that Padme shouldn't be okay with the slaughter of innocent first you need to convince anyone that Tuscan Raiders are innocent.

[@Toshiro93]

I agree: rather than being turned on by Anakin, Padme is feeling pity for him in that moment.

[@logat1847]

How many people in the Star Wars universe see Tuscan raiders as “people” ?

[@Spellweaver5]

I might be mistaken there, but I personally interpreted Dooku's speech as him not being truly loyal to Palpatine and trying to outplay him. Which is why Palpatine disposed of him so readily.

[@colebuckon3856]

Excellent video, Sheev. If I might make a small editing suggestion, speaking from the audience experience: since you’re not taking the supplementary materials into account for this analysis, maybe don’t throw up footage from Clone Wars, Tales of the Jedi, or any other animated show unless you are specifically referencing those things at that point in the script. It creates a sense of dissonance on this end. Objectively, you weren’t breaking your own rules for the analysis, but it was distracting every time it happened. For example, when you remind the audience that we can’t count what’s in Clone Wars to understand Dooku in this film, and then show footage from Clone Wars to hammer in the point, that’s fine. That makes sense. However, when you back up discussion of Dooku’s character traits and his role in the clone conspiracy by showing footage from Tales of the Jedi, it comes across as though we’re supposed to count that show as evidence, even if the exact footage shown didn’t actually affect the point being made. It was a similar situation when you were speculating about schism in the Jedi Order and backed up the suggestion of Jedi sabotaging the war effort by showing Pong Krell. It came across like the footage was being used to support the argument, even if you weren’t saying that. Overall, this was a thoughtfully made video that I really enjoyed. I am looking forward to your analysis of Revenge of the Sith. This was just something that jumped out at me whenever it happened.