00:00 Sheriff Shoots Judge Background 06:47 The New Motive for the Shooting 13:45 Cody Thomas' Hearing Recap 22:40 Expert Analysis 41:09 Something Else You Need to Know 43:31 Where is Bailey Grace Holloway #CourtTV What do YOU think? Catch up on the FACTS: www.courttv.com/tag/shawn-stines/?
@lloyddaley61693 ай бұрын
Taking the law into your own hands never goes well
@lloyddaley61693 ай бұрын
Whatever happened its not worth the death penalty
@Jblaze0243 ай бұрын
@@lloyddaley6169 No one's promised tomorrow. what would you do if you're under his daughter was messing with somebody over 50 years old? and if you're saying the opposite of what you would do; your lying. no man is going to throw his life away like that unless it's his wife, children, or money. so which of the three is it?
@Donnie-cj8tg3 ай бұрын
@@Jblaze024 This is much deeper than we will ever be told from a Corporate Media talking head. This whole country is covered with a veil of secrecy that was completely exposed in the 80s and 90s. 9/11 stopped the efforts to take the evil ones down
@DianeMcCarterDijo3 ай бұрын
@@lloyddaley6169the sheriff thought it was? He murdered an unarmed man!
@al13833 ай бұрын
How to stretch out 5 minutes of Information into a 44 minute video.
@jleezy6123 ай бұрын
😂 seriously!
@tanyalee11.113 ай бұрын
vinnie is that guy. not sure how i ended up here because i unsubscribed ages ago. i just can’t with him.
@BerzerkaDurk3 ай бұрын
It's barely tolerable after I switched my playback speed to 2x.
@myaccount52043 ай бұрын
@@al1383 I was thinking the same thing. It’s like a kid trying to stretch out his book report by putting big spaces between words and adding very very at every turn
@whatabouttheearth3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 This is exactly what I was suspecting from a lame outlet like Court TV.
@jonimestas96923 ай бұрын
I always learn more from the comments than the actual narrative. Thank you to all who comment. You save me time. 😊
@GH-oi2jf3 ай бұрын
Some contributors to the comments are clueless.
@MearnieToon3 ай бұрын
Yes I read in the comments your mother cleans taint at the truck stop. She is the best tain5 licker in the county
@sammieq67283 ай бұрын
You’re not learning anything, you’re reading unfounded theories. Use critical thinking skills and rely on evidence. Everything else is conjecture.
@jennypham39983 ай бұрын
Nobody knows anything true at this time.
@truebluenovocastrian3 ай бұрын
You're kidding right?
@dragonmummy13 ай бұрын
Vinnie’s ponderous, over-dramatic, repetitive speech gets on my nerves.
@t.h.26053 ай бұрын
Exactly. I couldn’t finish the vid.,
@genielynn31013 ай бұрын
Well no one forced you to listen to him. Just saying I think Vinnie is Great!
@SiViC743 ай бұрын
Who cares what you think @@genielynn3101
@efd316smokin43 ай бұрын
Play it at 2X speed. It sounds like a normal person speaking at that speed.
@noteven30853 ай бұрын
Yea. He's a tool.
@MaxHesh72 ай бұрын
People were speculating abuse by the judge. But, it's just as possible the father was the abuser and the family went to the judge for help in getting separated from the father. The number of the daughter could have been in the phone because she was the one who initiated the request for help. The "kidnapping my wife and daughter" comment make more sense in that context.
@jefferyorton17232 ай бұрын
No way. That judge was a total creep.
@aeurospace2 ай бұрын
@@jefferyorton1723Did you know him personally?
@francymurphy28872 ай бұрын
That’s what I heard happened. So sad 😢
@ronhall53952 ай бұрын
Sheriff stated upon his arrest that the judge and others were kidnapping his family. The daughters phone number was called by the sheriff using the judges phone . So it was on the phone but not saved as a contact. Something was going on, but it was not a sorted love affair. No perv. Action.
@ronhall53952 ай бұрын
@@jefferyorton1723 well he was creepy looking, that does not make him a creep.
@lauradowney47683 ай бұрын
I want to learn about this case but I cannot force myself to sit here and listen to this man slowly dribble out the story with high school drama class talent.
@genemontoya40283 ай бұрын
Goodbye azzho
@charlesmerfeld29883 ай бұрын
1.5 speed
@purplequeen17273 ай бұрын
1.5 to 2.0 speed.
@BrongaeneGriffin3 ай бұрын
Agreed. He really is one of the worst hosts out there. I always scroll through his mind numbingly annoying monologue.
@ILoveMyPomeranian-p6l3 ай бұрын
2.0 speed. I don’t listen to any KZbin video on normal speed lol.
@freddiejay25123 ай бұрын
“We learned a lot today “ continues to tell us the same thing we have been hearing since it happened
@kaleidoscopesthirdeyevizions3 ай бұрын
Untill court it's unlikely we will hear much new material because I'm sure he has a attorney
@denisbenoit52893 ай бұрын
This guy is so melodramatic, it's annoying
@ihateplaydates3 ай бұрын
Click bait ugh
@JohnnieSolo3 ай бұрын
@@freddiejay2512 It's new to me. 🤷🏽♀️
@alicesmith67503 ай бұрын
@@denisbenoit5289 You commented on my thought exactly. It's even worse in the short clip where he goes on about the puppet and its master, as if all crimes are controlled by criminal masterminds.
@jbar72433 ай бұрын
This host drives me crazy with all the dramatic pauses. Speed it up bruh…
@commiesnzombies3 ай бұрын
bigger drama queen than nancy grace
@danart118113 ай бұрын
The pauses lead me to believe something is wrong with device if I am only listening 😊to
@jojojana44553 ай бұрын
He tries to act like Nancy Grace but he cant quite pull it off.
@ZENmud3 ай бұрын
Maybe a "light script"?
@SunFlower-sf1go3 ай бұрын
Vinnie is the best! Love all his comments! It's his show. Don't watch if you don't like it.
@Just_livelife3 ай бұрын
Vinny…seriously? Dragging this out was exhausting.
@Jblaze0243 ай бұрын
all I want to say is no sheriff is going to commit that crime to a judge for one of his deputies. not going to happen. the actions of the sheriff are a result of either wife, children, or finances. which of the three is it?
@Oingoboingo5283 ай бұрын
That not all
@sun4metoo3 ай бұрын
It was sheriffs daughter... crazy !!
@melistasy3 ай бұрын
Could be either, some, or all. It can also include the situation with the his deputy. Sheriff could see his life crumbling and blamed the judge, or he just got enraged seeing his daughters number in the judge's phone thinking they're plotting against him. 🤷🏽♀️. We'll find out soon enough.
@MearnieToon3 ай бұрын
I heard he did it cause you were cleaning taint at the truck stop
@chrisc26833 ай бұрын
Rumor mill has it that the judge was in a sexual relationship with the Sheriff’s underaged daughter.
@joannepollak58433 ай бұрын
I saw some postings that the sheriff was abusive to his wife and she was planning on leaving him with her daughter. The judge was helping them. The sheriff learned about it and when his daughter didn’t answer his call but answered the judge’s call, he got the verification and snapped.
@NotMoriarty13 ай бұрын
That makes the most sense since the family said it had nothing to do with the daughter being molested
@arielsea90873 ай бұрын
Problem is internet hearsay. It's a phenomenon we are experiencing. Next thing is AI.
@joannepollak58433 ай бұрын
@@arielsea9087 I know what you mean. But this was from someone who knew the people involved but didn’t want to be identified now. It seems plausible to me that this sheriff was abusive just by how he killed the judge. Angry and flew off the handle. Imagine how he could be at home. I guess we’ll see.
@WeeTodd-lp8bz3 ай бұрын
May make some sense because that "lead detective" said that the sheriff while being arrested said something like " they're trying to kidnap my wife and daughter "
@dmc34893 ай бұрын
@@arielsea9087 You are spot on with the AI! It will be an uncompromising agent of chaos
@jimmyjam54533 ай бұрын
Even when a unarmed judge is killed in cold blood on camera the police apologist on court tv cant bring themselves to say the cop should get the same punishment as anyone else.
@Melaniedoo3 ай бұрын
Don’t know if anyone heard the testimony like I did. When the defense attorney asked the “lead investigator” about the daughter’s phone number being “on the phone.” Did anyone else think that maybe the question should have been a little more specific? Like was the daughter’s phone number SAVED to the judge’s phone as a contact or just on the call log because the sheriff called her from it? That’s just the way my mind heard it yall.
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
You are CORRECT.
@stephenbarabas62863 ай бұрын
She worked for the Judge at the court. Most bosses have employees numbers so to me that doesn't seem odd. And it has been widely reported that the families were good friends and the Judge was like an uncle to her.
@ohheyykristina3 ай бұрын
He specifically said the judge had called the daughters number
@Nighttwolfe3 ай бұрын
Was wondering this same exact thing! Saved contact or recent call? Which is it?
@Melaniedoo3 ай бұрын
@@ohheyykristina you may need to hit the “read more” option on my original comment.
@LewisBrazelz3 ай бұрын
Pay attention theyre telling you! The sheriffs family wouldnt answer for his own calls but when he borrowed the judges phone his daughter answered when he called. The sheriff didnt like the judge helping his family behind his back so once it was confirmed by his daughter answering the phone, he went back inside and shot him
@Letsberealish3 ай бұрын
Helping himself to the sheriff's daughter...
@catsanddogs89833 ай бұрын
Wow so he shot him because he didn't like the judge going behind his back to help his wife and daughter, that's pretty unbelievable.
@grahamalastairkrebs22413 ай бұрын
The Judge should have kept his nose out of other people's marriage if he was not assigned to it.
@MrMancreatedgod3 ай бұрын
@@catsanddogs8983not at all if the reason they didn't answer the sheriff's call is because of abuse. There's not enough evidence available right now. Sheriff either took out a pedo or took out a man attempting to help victims of domestic abuse.
@tinafreeman69373 ай бұрын
@@grahamalastairkrebs2241…way to out yourself as an abuser.
@jrelevates15743 ай бұрын
The biggest thing I learned is, I thought "judges quarters" were as fancy as the court room, it's literally a shitty office.
@idktony16763 ай бұрын
I think it’s just cause they’re in a small town and state w low funding, I’ve been in very nice judges chamber before with a couch and multiple seats in there
@connieford28633 ай бұрын
Well, that’s where the sex acts w inmates were taking place with the deputy go figure
@haleyparmer13023 ай бұрын
Yes, and I thought I had it bad as a teacher!🤣
@notsorryyouretriggered3 ай бұрын
He was trapped in that tiny space and the sheriff still emptied the clip!
@CamdensDad3 ай бұрын
Lmao I thought the same
@Dj.MODÆO2 ай бұрын
Local rumor is that the sheriffs wife and daughter are trying to flee him because he is a psychopath and the judge had agreed to help them.
@5000RR2 ай бұрын
He looks like a bully to me
@loneranger53492 ай бұрын
This sounds likely but will never said in all this crap
@kingjoseph59012 ай бұрын
Another rumor is that his wife was committing whoredom with the judge
@greg48762 ай бұрын
Yep i live there.,... judge was helping his friends wife hide from him because he was abusive...the sheriff found out because he seen his wife and daughters number was on the judges phone...
@shaungoodwin52512 ай бұрын
@@greg4876 but what about the case of the sexual assault(s) in the judge's chambers by that other officer? I think we got consider what that was about too.
@kyleepape50583 ай бұрын
“They’re trying to kidnap my wife and daughter” would coincide with the rumor about the judge helping his wife get out of the marriage
@anthonygarcia18663 ай бұрын
I was told by someone close to the situation that the judge had some kind of blackmail scheme going against the wife and daughter of the sheriff and had coerced both of them into a sexual relationship with him. The sexual thing actually started when the daughter was underage, I haven't been able to confirm this but as I said the info came from a source close to the situation. Kentucky does have it's fair share of rouge law enforcers as well as crooked judges so I don't know.
@SparrowHope3 ай бұрын
@@kyleepape5058 well...she got out now. Such a shame it had to come this way.
@RAKBSK233 ай бұрын
It’s deeper than that,that judge was a Diddler! Everyone in town knows that.
@woodswal3 ай бұрын
All they had to do was leave. It's the safest way. He has to go to work sometime. Plan slowly. How did a judge allow him to find out he was helping his wife?
@traceymcdonald79493 ай бұрын
Bingo
@evracer3 ай бұрын
Word is his wife and daughter left him and that the Judge was helping them. We will find out who the dirtbag is soon enough.
@jennifer50463 ай бұрын
Agree
@Austin-zq1oc3 ай бұрын
Wow, major plot twist. Sheriff might actually be the villian
@eeayquetting59633 ай бұрын
Another word is that the judge was forcing himself on the sheriff's daughter
@kuatojones69503 ай бұрын
Yea it's sad so many people are smearing him on a rumor. It would sum up 2024 in a nutshell if the man trying to help someone escape abuse ends up dead for it and people smear him as a creep.
@Juke5823 ай бұрын
Then why would they be sitting behind him in court supporting him then? You are FALSE!!!!
@AliceA3333 ай бұрын
"Kidnap"...meaning the Sheriff's wife was leaving him & taking the kid with her. I saw the comment that the judge was helping them flee an abusive situation, so if that's the case he did get them away from their abuser. Cost him his life.
@peaceseeker99273 ай бұрын
I am confident he won't be getting manslaughter for this. Even if the judge acted against him in some way he was no threat. This guy needs to be on lock down for the rest of his days. He betrayed all trust as a sheriff.
@raefarnsworth42782 ай бұрын
Well, the kindergarten cop is now the sheriff. The deputy assigned to the judge only received 6 months for rape of at least 2 women.
@phiakate3 ай бұрын
I see a man comfortable with his decision.
@tonystevenson263 ай бұрын
I see an idiot about to go to prison
@boymom_x33 ай бұрын
💯
@kimperry84453 ай бұрын
@@phiakate if someone was messing with my kid, I’d be comfortable too
@lisastringfellow85243 ай бұрын
As any parent would if they find out that someone was molesting or harming their child in anyway! If those rumors are true that the judge was having inappropriate contact with an underage girl that father did exactly what any good father would have done
@Justme_12213 ай бұрын
@@lisastringfellow8524. IF the rumors are true. I’m from a small town not too far away from here and any little thing that happens is like a game of telephone. The story changes and gets bigger overtime with each retelling. Lord knows what actually happened. The gossip mills run overtime in these little towns.
@CocoKmimi3 ай бұрын
His cadence drives me bananas. I have to watch him on 2X speed
@blindfreddy91573 ай бұрын
Same. He's so annoying. Usually, I just avoid anything with him in it.
@commiesnzombies3 ай бұрын
more drama queen than nancy grace
@canes4ever1623 ай бұрын
It seems like he is waiting on the teleprompter… needs to study news cadence. Also could zoom out of his still shot just a tad
@comanchio19763 ай бұрын
Me too. 2x speed and it was like a normal person speaking
@lindatrepanier34193 ай бұрын
Trying to be a 'Jack Palance' in Believe It or Not
@cheneree3 ай бұрын
The sheriff has an unapologetic demeanour about him. Seems that he believes he was justified in his actions.
@DanaMartinez-dp9el2 ай бұрын
just because the Sherriff found his daughter's number on the judge's phone does NOT give him the OK to shoot him
@queenbee77492 ай бұрын
Thanks captain obvious 🙄
@DL-cs6fz3 ай бұрын
This is an Appalachian town, with a population of 1,170. Anyone who lives in a larger town, can’t begin to understand the social dynamics of a town under 2000. I went from living in L.A. to a tiny town of 7000 in the middle of nowhere. I have to drive over an hour to get to a UPS store, or a “chain” restaurant, or auto repair shop. We have a Walmart that sells groceries. It’s a different life, and I can guarantee you those Townspeople know what’s been going on, whether they chose to talk about it or not it.
@smoocher3 ай бұрын
I thought all Walmarts sold groceries? lol I understand your point though as I grew up in a small town.
@deannajunkin36963 ай бұрын
Yep, that's been almost my entire life. Raised in a town of 1,000, I now live in a town of 400. There are no secrets.
@boymom_x33 ай бұрын
@@DL-cs6fz THIS!!!💯
@figgy70993 ай бұрын
I also live in a small town of about 2500 in the midwest. I back your guarentee that everyone knows something.
@TheDavidscc323 ай бұрын
The sheriff made 6 figures in a town that small? Crazy good union.
@Thewitchesflame3 ай бұрын
Wife left a month prior to shooting, neighbors said he was acting strange the last few months.
@teresaclark54653 ай бұрын
Do you think the Sheriff got on drugs?
@kimperry84453 ай бұрын
Maybe the wife was having an affair with the judge. In my heart of hearts, I just don’t believe the sheriff abused his wife or daughter. I just think the judge has creepy all over him, I am sorry to family, but just being honest.
@louisejeffries71553 ай бұрын
That is rubbish
@roblockhart84103 ай бұрын
Is this fact? Source?
@kimperry84453 ай бұрын
@@Thewitchesflame not true if wife and daughter are afraid of him why would they be sitting in court behind him supporting him and why would a family member have a GoFundMe up for the family?
@365kps23 ай бұрын
The most dangerous time is when a victim is leaving.
@cardinalncube55103 ай бұрын
True
@carolw85793 ай бұрын
Yep. Along with the fact a victim will attempt to exit the abuser at least 8 times before they get away. However, many cases end in some form of violence. Very sad statistic. 😢
@steelhurricane40413 ай бұрын
Yep. Very dangerous.
@splash-qi5kn3 ай бұрын
Why are you saying this and others saying the judge was assaulting his daughter
@Jane-uz6vuАй бұрын
Victims ,Leave Don't negotiate . Emotions can be sometimes , not safe• 😢❤
@angelmeade69272 ай бұрын
I live about an hour from this. Thank you Vinnie for covering this. ❤
@Tee_Dawg13 ай бұрын
Everyone is on the internet trying to guess what happened, but the Sheriff knows exactly what happened. Since the cops are so honest and upstanding, why doesn't the sheriff clear the whole thing up?
@bethsams98043 ай бұрын
Maybe to protect his family or if there was a sexual situation, to protect his daughter
@karintolbert74523 ай бұрын
If he is not wanting to clear it all up, he may have a lot to hide and feels loads of guilt? And also may think he can get in less trouble if he stays quiet? Idk
@Tee_Dawg13 ай бұрын
@@karintolbert7452 Well, yeah. It's in his best interests to stay silent.
@jenniferb5903 ай бұрын
He found out that his wife and daughter were trying to get away from him. Why are you not reporting that they had left him before this happened. The motive is obvious he wanted to prevent them leaving. Not kidnapped but rescued.
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
Vinny should be checking the court records for the injunction for protection filed
@bftvclips89253 ай бұрын
Before now the rumors and speculation was molestation. Can't take comments as factual information.
@MichaelMcAlister-x1h3 ай бұрын
@@bftvclips8925exactly why I don't believe rumors
@tamaramiles46483 ай бұрын
Yes. Makes the most sense. P.S. my own father tried to kidnap me and my mother when she left him.
@taratrudeau20293 ай бұрын
Vinnie likes to DRAG everything out for money . He barely tells anything new in these videos. I wish they would get rid if him and change their approach to this channel. They won't though . They make so much money off views for telling us what we already know lolol
@douglasclore62443 ай бұрын
He loved his daughter and wife so much that in order to keep them safe he guaranteed that he will never be around to protect them. Makes perfect sense.
@Kris_16-133 ай бұрын
That’s not the motive that’s a conspiracy.
@millyeleven99693 ай бұрын
Nahh it aint
@kerlygerl3 ай бұрын
So true. Maybe it wasn’t love but feeling his property getting away.
@lisasisk37133 ай бұрын
RIGHT. Because it's not true. People just pulling $hit out of their asshole. BS.
@TheSlimMan2 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to want to mention facts about the daughters age. If she's not 18. I would think the father probably already knew of a inappropriate situation and confirmed it with the phone and acted like a Dad would. This sheriff seems like a good guy. The judge looks like a. .... To me . 🧐. We will see?
@Austin-zq1oc3 ай бұрын
Maybe the judge was communicating to the Sheriff's wife through the daughter's phone because the Sheriff was monitoring his wife's phone. Just a plausible theory.
@Palmstreet-u7x3 ай бұрын
if its how it was as some explain it then a very plausible answer you give
@Love_maui_20173 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@publicuser25343 ай бұрын
I am not supposed to judge a book by its cover…I know. But, the picture of the deceased judge leads me to think he was a caring soul. I think your theory is spot on.
@MaxSand-i4n3 ай бұрын
Judge was sleeping with daughter
@Palmstreet-u7x3 ай бұрын
@@MaxSand-i4n any evidence of that
@TheDeborah01013 ай бұрын
Several people from Letcher County have said that the sheriff's wife was seeking a divorce and the Judge was trying to help her. Supposedly, the sheriff has a past of domestic violence and control issues and he was upset that the judge was trying to help his wife procure a divorce.
@QueenLOVE793 ай бұрын
Then there would’ve been paperwork to back that up. No, that judge had the Sheriff’s teenage daughter’s phone number. Not the wife’s. Couple that with the kidnapping comment and It’s pretty evident what was going on. The judge was either stalking the daughter or had an inappropriate relationship with her. A divorce isn’t going to cause the Sheriff to do what he did in the way he did it.
@leonskum77053 ай бұрын
The wife/daughter were victims & were leaving the sheriff???? The same wife/daughter who were sitting behind the sheriff in court??????
@cardinalncube55103 ай бұрын
@@leonskum7705makes very little sense l agree.
@UPDT82433 ай бұрын
@@QueenLOVE79 I agree with your comment, and let me add my two cents. I suspect that the Sheriff 's daughter was not answering her dad's phone calls, or why would he had to use the Judge's phone to call his daughter? Maybe there was an inappropriate relationship between the Judge and the Sheriff ' s daughter. To me, the Sheriff seems a decent man and a protective dad and husband.
@Sizzle14923 ай бұрын
@@TheDeborah0101 your way off....the judge was a pedophile who was calling and messaging the sheriff's underage daughter
@hariseldon24503 ай бұрын
I read that the wife and daughter left him a month before the shooting. The judge helped the family and the sheriff were jealous and decided to kill the judge? The mother and daughter have denied that there were any sexual assaults going on.
@PandoraJonesmodel3 ай бұрын
A sheriff who knew his deputy was assaulting women in the judges chambers was a domestic abuser? I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked
@Floridafanatic283 ай бұрын
Where did you hear this from? Which source? I have not seen this on any credible site. Also, he has 2 daughters, one will be 17 this December and the other appears to be a bit older than the other one.
@maryewer73223 ай бұрын
We will know when it comes out,these things take time prayers for both families,children
@valeriegowan10983 ай бұрын
@@hariseldon2450 , Once he made that comment about his wife and daughter I knew it wasn’t SA. I have feelings that he was probably abusive.
@LewisBrazelz3 ай бұрын
The sheriff used the judges phone before the murder and realized his family answered the phone when they thought the judge was calling but wouldn't answer the sheriffs call so he went back in shooting
@paulasmith3566Ай бұрын
None of this makes sense if the Sheriff's wife and one of his daughters were sitting behind their husband/dad at the preliminary hearing, as commented on here from someone who knows the wife and daughter??? There's something else going on and it is pointing more directly at the daughter who is the focus of this case that something nefarious was going on. This has a lot to do with the text from someone who worked at the clerk's office or Sheriff's Office that he received prior to meeting with the Judge. Was it DNA results from a sexual assault case that he received in the text that confirmed his suspicions? Was this a text he was waiting for that confirmed something which caused the Sheriff to snap? This kidnapping statement could have been a threat for the family to shut up or else. There is so much corruption in this Country, especially when it comes to political blackmail involving sex trafficking, rape, murder, etc., against those in political offices in every city, town, and rural areas. This was pure rage which only a father would be capable of doing. Either way, it is tragic for all those involved. JMHO
@bethbounds28733 ай бұрын
Ease up on the “Dramatic Pauses” Vinnie. Just tell the story!
@steelhurricane40413 ай бұрын
He can't help himself. It's truly annoying.
@NotMoriarty13 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard or seen anyone mention the fact that the family came out and said it had nothing to do with the daughter being molested.
@Nurse_Kathy3 ай бұрын
I understand that the SIL of the Sheriff’s wife denied SA of his daughter on a Go Fund Me created to raise $ for his defense.
@augormasterson93123 ай бұрын
@@Nurse_Kathyif it was the sister in law of the sheriffs wife, wouldn’t that make it the sheriffs sister?
@kae22753 ай бұрын
@@augormasterson9312 could be her brother's wife also!
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
@@kae2275 Both would be a sister in law.
@connieford28633 ай бұрын
I don’t know the judges wife looks like she could be his sister just saying.
@HillbillyIslandLife3 ай бұрын
Lead investigator was trying to hide their cards.....If he really knows that little, they need a new lead investigator!
@JamesBooth-yl8xz3 ай бұрын
He seems compromised.
@Sister3253 ай бұрын
I think it would be difficult to investigate people you know, or work closely with. Not a typical investigation. But I WAS surprised by how little he had investigated this in preparation for court.
@juliew62293 ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice that when Stamper was called as a witness, the judge addressed him as "Clay", then corrected himself to his full name.
@DEBORAH4-ut9sz3 ай бұрын
@@juliew6229 ikr I think this case needs to be Adjudicated in another county as this small town is too close for comfort to be fair and just in their verdict.
@lobesi833 ай бұрын
You don't reveal all of your evidence at a preliminary hearing. Just enough to get past probable cause which the video alone did.
@stardustshorty2 ай бұрын
I also think the mother was communicating with judge for the divorce threw her daughter's phone so the father (sheriff) wouldn't know
@janedixon84913 ай бұрын
It’s a domestic thing. Y’all aren’t telling us anything new. Good commenters though. I bet judge was helping mother and daughter. Daughter wouldn’t answer dad’s call.
@Gochyooh3 ай бұрын
AMERICAN POLICE
@paulk85323 ай бұрын
@@janedixon8491 this commenter is fit only to WRITE copy
@gregelliott50663 ай бұрын
This case is just another extremely strong argument for why audio & visual photography filming should be allowed in court rooms and all government funded buildings through federal dollars.
@christopheraaron82993 ай бұрын
The daughter could have been trying to report her father for something, but couldn't exactly go to the sheriff's department if that was the case. Domestic violence is extremely common in the homes of police officers and the sheriff clearly has violent tendencies.
@ChrisJohnson-hk6es3 ай бұрын
@@christopheraaron8299 could the judge have been doing something to the Sheriff's daughter? All of this is just so odd
@christopheraaron82993 ай бұрын
@@ChrisJohnson-hk6es Possibly, but there's no information to support such an assertion at this point. There's not a lot of information in general on this case.
@bobbies15623 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Seedcadets3 ай бұрын
Or maybe she was getting pounded out by the judge?
@stevenolson34663 ай бұрын
With respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. There are other podcasts which have already been made public.
@albecky1233 ай бұрын
I do not think the sheriff believed his wife/daughter were in extreme danger due to being kidnapped...I believe they were going to be spirited away because they WANTED to get away from him. Still could be extreme emotional turmoil because the sheriff was about to lose control of his family. Just a fair guess from someone who has watched domestic violence cases unfold more than once.
@paulie_putt42393 ай бұрын
Two facts, the Sheriff is very violent and he allows women to be sexually abused, so I agree
@kerlygerl3 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I think the sheriff wanted to keep his “property” and the judge was helping them get away.
@larryfisher51983 ай бұрын
So a wife manages to escape an alleged controlling, abusive husband and father, who happens to be the sheriff of a small town, with her teenage child/children. Somewhere along the way, judge Mullins becomes an ally for the mother's cause. Unless some unseemly association exists concerning the judge's actions, the trusting sap in me wants to believe the judge's motives were noble. From that point of view, it would be entirely acceptable for him to have their contact info in the event any of them needed to reach out to him for assistance in their struggles. Failure of the daughter to answer dad's call then immediately answering a call from the judge's phone speaks volumes. Secondly, even if the first shot was passion driven, the following pauses and continued salvos were cold and calculated to result in death.
@carriekay48272 ай бұрын
Read that the Sheriff had lost a good amount of weight which usually happens during a marital break up in my experience and what I have read from the locals. So if the Judge was helping his wife/child...why kill him? because he had a gun/felt he was justified. I have heard many times I am going to kill him but they have no gun near them making that statement. Most people cool off...hence why guns are taken out of the home or off the person...nobody get's shot. I have know of a few individuals shot but they don't keep shooting until he knows this person is dead, dead, dead...3 times we witnesses the officer shooting until he felt the judge was dead. Something else is going down JMO
@chaelnel3 ай бұрын
The idea the judge was doing something with the daughter doesn't work. The sheriff would have outright said that and it would have been the headline. The idea that the sheriff's wife and kid might have been abused and where trying to leave him actually fits more since the sheriff is staying awfully quiet. The second scenario of anger issues and such also fits unloading a gun on a friend without a sign of remorse.
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
It was the X Sheriff that was abusive to his wife and daughter
@OttoByOgraffey3 ай бұрын
and *were trying to leave.
@paulf33 ай бұрын
The sheriff is staying quiet because he works in the system. At no point ever under any conditions even if you're completely innocent should you speak to the police if you're the subject of an investigation. You only speak through a lawyer ANYTHING You say can and WILL be used AGAINST you
@MrMancreatedgod3 ай бұрын
@@KRG414ofc. But what makes the most sense is what op stated. There's not enough available evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion right now but I'm with op until something shows otherwise
@MrMancreatedgod3 ай бұрын
@@KRG414btw. You might wanna fix your double negative because you're actually saying he's guilty
@dronepilot260rc2 ай бұрын
This is why Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished and law enforcement needs to be held accountable and to a higher standard than citizens and face harsher punishment. This will become commonplace if Trump gets into office. What’s next, law enforcement takes out mayors, governors, senators?
@anonone89543 ай бұрын
It's very possible that the judge did nothing wrong and this sheriff did this over jealously.
@clayton56tube3 ай бұрын
true
@KRG4143 ай бұрын
Yeah…so, a judge isn’t supposed to secretly take your family away. There’s a process and he didn’t follow it.
@stephenbarabas62863 ай бұрын
@@KRG414if rumors are true (rumors are partly true and not) if the EX-sheriff was abusive,then no you aren't just going to walk out the door and things done in secret happen for situations like that all the time.
@KRG4143 ай бұрын
@@stephenbarabas6286 I didn’t say family members can’t secretly leave the husband. However, if the judge implemented himself into the situation, he, as a judge, jeopardized ANY LEGAL ACTION taken from there on. And what I mean by that is that he could not legally preside over their case. He would have had to recuse himself. He did not follow protocol. There’s more to the story that’s not being told. Wifey and judge were up to something deeper than her leaving her husband. The secrecy is the key when there are other legal avenues any sane judge would have told her to pursue, like file for divorce, get a restraining order or protection order, get enough essentials and stay at an undisclosed location. The fact that the rumor is that the judge was helping her leave in secrecy should be the key to all of this. They were already in too deep somewhere else and somehow got the daughter involved (probably manipulation, married women are masters at it and married women cheat WAY more than you’d realize). Problem is, sheriff may have a hard time proving anything beyond reasonable doubt since our current culture is “all cops bad” and “believe all women.”
@davidjacobs32753 ай бұрын
@LigmaBallz91 The process is a protective order. The judge signing it IS the process. Then the alleged victims leave, and defendant has no contact until the hearing. If the victims are truly afraid for their lives they DO leave in secret BEFORE the defendant is served.
@terrymckay91863 ай бұрын
It appears that the Sheriff couldn’t accept rejection from his wife and the Judge was trying to help his wife and daughter leave him. If this is true that is the cause for the murder but it’s never a reason to commit such a horrible crime. I think the Judge told the wife of the Sheriff in a text message that he would send Deputys to help her and the daughter leave and that is where the kidnapping part comes in to play. It appears that the Sheriff was never going to let his wife and daughter leave him and they were probably the next target.
@gidgetrose92513 ай бұрын
I think if this is true they wouldn’t be sitting behind him in court
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk3 ай бұрын
That really doesn't make sense. If he didn't want his family broken up, he wouldn't resign himself to life in prison. The alleged grooming and abuse of the daughter makes more sense. He may have had it under another name
@SunFlower-sf1go3 ай бұрын
@@ProudCanadian-vv6bk the abuse story sounds like BS. The sheriff is dirty. We already know he covered for his deputy who was raping women at the courthouse at night and is named in a lawsuit. And now he shoots a judge. He's the criminal.
@mariepowell36183 ай бұрын
I heard the same thing
@joy-1153 ай бұрын
@@gidgetrose9251we dont know that they were
@dziztit44953 ай бұрын
The host is almost un bearable to listen to. All those pauses.
@Gochyooh3 ай бұрын
HEY RESPECT VINNIE'S NICE @$$!
@jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn3 ай бұрын
Dad's have the right to defend their daughter's.
@susanharrington87153 ай бұрын
Judge facilitating the sheriff’s wife and daughter’s ‘escape’ from abusive situation (to a battered women’s shelter? )… sheriff’s decided to construe this as attempting to ‘kidnap’ his wife and child
@TheSingingGardener3 ай бұрын
But then why are they in court sitting behind him?
@abby40273 ай бұрын
I never thought of this
@WomanChild3 ай бұрын
@@TheSingingGardener They might have felt awkward or uncertain about sitting by the family of the judge since he was allegedly murdered trying to help them? Or sometimes you still care about a horrible abuser, even if you are trying to escape. Maybe both.
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
They have to sit somewhere. I doubt the judges' side would have been very welcoming of them.
@Findpepperbridge3 ай бұрын
Then why are they sitting in on his side of the court room?
@ether_sect3 ай бұрын
Mother and daughter were trying to get away from an abusive and controlling cop. The Judge was helping them, as he often did with other members of the community, and the Sheriff was outraged and jealous, so he killed the judge. He is no hero.
@NancyHampton-w6j3 ай бұрын
If that’s true why are they sitting behind him supporting him ?
@Juke5823 ай бұрын
@@NancyHampton-w6j Exactly! 👍 people are making stupid assumptions that make no sense!
@L.D.Intheditch3 ай бұрын
Why the GFM for him if that's the case?
@robingalbraith3233 ай бұрын
@@NancyHampton-w6j because people often have a hard time accepting and dealing with someone they once cared about, murdering people? why did the step dad carly greg shot, defend her? why do the parents of her mom, the woman she murdered, support her? i would say because they are weak. same thing with these people. they are weak. they have also came out and said publicly that the daughter was not being abused. so the narrative used to support him also doesnt make any sense. and yet, i dont see you questioning that
@davidgibson22843 ай бұрын
AHHHHH try again.
@lanalou773 ай бұрын
The sheriff is clearly guilty and no justifiable excuse! I believe the sheriff lost all self control over his pending separation.
@nilabrandner4333 ай бұрын
If that’s true the Grand Jury can bring a Manslaughter charge. Special circumstances. Crime of passion.
@christopheraaron82993 ай бұрын
Eh, forming that conclusion with such little information is called conjecture. It does look bad for him, but we don't know all the facts or how the facts we do know tie together. We know very little at this point, all we could do is speculate.
@SheldonRobert-x8o3 ай бұрын
Why would his impending divorce be relevant to The Judge having his minor daughter's phone number?
@christopheraaron82993 ай бұрын
@@SheldonRobert-x8o Rumor has it the sheriff's wife was leaving him (because like most cops, he's abusive) and was taking the daughter with her. Supposedly the judge was helping to get them out safely. I don't know if it's true or not, that's just the rumor.
@SheldonRobert-x8o3 ай бұрын
@@christopheraaron8299 If I were the only Judge in such a small community, who would likely be overseeing the Divorce proceedings, then that's weird.. And is his wife having an affair with the Judge that might be overseeing that Divorce Proceeding? Either way, a little girl's phone number should not be on the phone the Judge.
@shawnfuzy31912 ай бұрын
I get it's probably more sinister, but jeesh her number could have been on there because she was planning a surprise birthday party for her dad or some some nonsense. I'm sure someday we may know. Until we know we don't know. My feeling is being a sheriff. Why not just arrest the judge if he did something nefarious. The man on the stand didn't really have a first hand account.
@mondoenterprises67103 ай бұрын
Maybe judge was helping them escape a DV situation.
@ERMADELL3 ай бұрын
Good catch! I had never considered DV, but that comment about kidnapping makes sense now.
@LewisBrazelz3 ай бұрын
That's what I've seen, apparently the sheriff borrowed the judges phone and when he realize his own family would answer the phone for the judge but not for him, he lost it
@bbe30343 ай бұрын
I’ve read the judge was having a relationship with the sheriff’s under age daughter.
@tamaramiles46483 ай бұрын
@@bbe3034 not true.
@LeoLover-l9e3 ай бұрын
@@bbe3034. Hard to imagine 🙄
@angelatheriault88553 ай бұрын
After the sheriff was arrested, he stated to law enforcement that “They are trying to kidnap my wife and kid.” That sounds like the sheriff’s wife was attempting to leave him and the judge may have been helping her.
@FionasNonna3 ай бұрын
They had already left. The killer claimed they were kidnapped to place blame on the judge
@terriehoelting74623 ай бұрын
A "crazy mad" parent still has no right to take another's life. He made himself judge, jury and executioner. I think we need to hear some actual facts instead of conjecture.
@jennypham39983 ай бұрын
The key word" crazy mad" . Couldn't think straight. A mad dog bite its owner too.
@KevinAskin3 ай бұрын
If the judge was sleeping with his underage daughter he had every right to do it
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
@KevinAskin The sheriff's wife and daughter had left him the month before. The sheriff's family has said there was no sa. It's more likely the judge was helping them obtain an order of protection from him. They refused to answer the phone from the sheriff but answered for the judge. The statement about kidnapping his family appears to bear this scenario out as being more likely.
@thedarksideoftheforce66583 ай бұрын
@@KevinAskinThat's false. They stated the Sheriff wife was leaving him for abuse. The judge wasn't sleeping with the daughter.
@SuziQ12073 ай бұрын
@@thedarksideoftheforce6658 who is ‘they’?
@jasperhalsey85742 ай бұрын
The daughter should testify. She needs to say what was said in the phone conversation. *How* did she answer the phone when she thought it was the judge calling?
@t.h.84753 ай бұрын
The sheriff made himself judge, jury, and executioner.
@connieford28633 ай бұрын
I see it is as capital punishment
@tommymyers31833 ай бұрын
No he didn't he was elected.
@artwatch-y9j3 ай бұрын
U forgot prosecutor
@tommymyers31833 ай бұрын
@@t.h.8475 no he didn't he was elected.
@t.h.84753 ай бұрын
@@tommymyers3183 Not elected to murder people.
@jberry19823 ай бұрын
I think that whole scandal in the chambers earlier on ran way deeper than everyone let on
@thelawyerchad3 ай бұрын
Interesting that people are assuming that the sheriff's actions were justified. Or that the victim (judge) MUST have done something to drive the sheriff to murder him.
@HarryDirtay3 ай бұрын
I'm almost certain the sheriff's buddies are spreading those lies. It was spreading like wildfire 2 minutes after the shooting. Sheriff was being investigated for misconduct of his subordinates
@publicuser25343 ай бұрын
That was my line of thought. Taking a Birds Eye view now, I think the former Sheriff might be a dirtbag on top of killing a judge.
@Samantha-wu5vn2 ай бұрын
Recap: The judge decided to help the sheriff's wife and daughter from an abusive situation. The sheriff found out, and to make sure, he looked at the judge's phone and saw both phone numbers on his phone. The sheriff is a murderer and a bully. The announcer turned the story around to something sinister, which it wasn't. This family was trying to escape from the sheriff with the help from this good judge..........
@agds910783 ай бұрын
This has been devastating for our little community, being a neighbor and friend to the stines family my brain is fried from all of this because I just can’t wrap my brain around it all. I hate it so bad for both families and for those of us who knew these men personally as friends, neighbors and even family.
@houseofel39543 ай бұрын
Do you think the judge was a little weird? since you knew both of them right?
@marthahalsey-on4bn3 ай бұрын
Why won’t anyone tell us what happened? I believe the sheriff snapped for some reason.
@Melaniedoo3 ай бұрын
@@agds91078 I’m so sorry for the struggle yall are going through. I cannot even imagine how yall are coping. We don’t stop to think about friends and neighbors and kin.
@YouTube4me3 ай бұрын
Wow, Someone knows what really happened. I am sorry for your loss and pain.
@Felicity21213 ай бұрын
I’m sorry for your loss and also the loss of your friendship with Stines.
@edwinacaparelli99113 ай бұрын
If he was protecting his daughter from what he deems as a threat, how was he going to protect her now? When he's behind bars.
@clayton56tube3 ай бұрын
the threat has been taken care of
@Karenanne2473 ай бұрын
@@clayton56tube🤦♀️
@dawnatkinson77043 ай бұрын
@@clayton56tubeHE was the one they needed protecting from! Looks like the judge was possibly in talks for a protection order cos his wife and daughter left him the month before and Stines family has also CLEARLY stated there was NO inappropriate sexual harrassment.
@louisejeffries71553 ай бұрын
The threat has gone
@angelamccrackin52433 ай бұрын
A hot head doesn't think that far ahead.....he lives in the here and now....
@rosearellanes56483 ай бұрын
Something is fishy here. Why would the lead investigator not ask what the conversation was about before the shooting took place. Something is being covered up here
@circusbrains3 ай бұрын
oh please there's always some lady with the comments
@lynnf75423 ай бұрын
He asked hes just not saying I'm sure
@Rachell_H3 ай бұрын
He did ask I think
@strobachyzoo42213 ай бұрын
According to a news article I read. The Judge was having a sexual relationship with the sheriff's UNDERAGE daughter.
@Johnquestionseverything3 ай бұрын
Not being hidden /covered up.... keeping their cards close to their vest until the investigation is completed.
@karenlyons55402 ай бұрын
For a “lead investigator” he wasn’t doing much interviewing of witnesses. Wonder why?
@DaveSCameron3 ай бұрын
I’m impressed with your channel and I am from the British Islands so keep it coming please 🇬🇧🙏🇺🇸
@tonymurray8143 ай бұрын
@@DaveSCameron Isle of white?
@sharonrobledo1363 ай бұрын
The sheriff didn’t seem very remorseful it’s as if he feels justified by his actions. Mind blowing 🤯 how an officer of the law could loose his control and kill a judge in his own chambers. It’s as if the sheriff’s last ditch attempt for control boy what a disgraceful pathetic man and still blaming the victim
@OttoByOgraffey3 ай бұрын
Hello. I'm here to help you. I've made it a personal mission in life, to teach the world how to spell, 'LOSE'. *lose, lost, loss, loses, losses, losing and, loser. See how they all have one 'O'?
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
@@OttoByOgraffeyYou're just here to annoy.
@OttoByOgraffey3 ай бұрын
@@tonilharmon , my life mission is to teach the world how to spell lose. Thanks for bringing attention to this devastating problem.
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
@OttoByOgraffey Calling bs on that. You just want to annoy people. I would hope my life mission would be a little more important than designating myself as the grammar police.🙄
@HarryDirtay3 ай бұрын
@@OttoByOgraffeyyou know about autocomplete and swype?
@tcttvradio3 ай бұрын
wow this think tank is ridiculous, her phone number wasnt in the judges phone until Stines called the number because his phone didnt work, they just said that in court. Vinny invented that fact that the daughters number was already in the phone. The sherriff is a defendant in the 2022 trial from the actual 2 victims that were ignored by Stines. Its all avaliable online. The daughter and mother and family denied any abuse online from the judge before today, thats already available online. The case has nothing to do with the judges phone. The mental illness is the stress of losing his job to the 2022 case. The judge refused to drop his case.
@Friendofstfrank3 ай бұрын
No.
@cindycordova98723 ай бұрын
The 2022 two victims....one is deceased a few days before her lawyer filed lawsuit...rumor drug OD...I think that is strange
@IHaveBecomeABro2 ай бұрын
I don't think her number being on his phone is that strange. The guys were friends and colleagues for years. I have numbers for members of my friends family, it doesn't mean I'm doing anything them.
@cindyrehe3 ай бұрын
They need to move that case out of that county because they’re all crooks
@MLeibs3 ай бұрын
Maybe the judge was going to grant a Restraining Order to the sheriff’s wife and daughter. Maybe the sheriff was so butthurt that he was losing his control that he decided to take his anger out on the judge. 🤷🏻♀️
@davidwilliams44983 ай бұрын
Very possible we will know soon trial starts this month.
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
@@davidwilliams4498 There is no way the trial will even start this year!
@gailcotter42283 ай бұрын
But why only have minors phone number, not adult wife? If he's helping her, children shouldn't be involved.
@LewisBrazelz3 ай бұрын
The sheriff used the judges phone before shooting him, the rumor is he called his family and realized they wouldn't answer his calls but they picked up when he called from the judges phone. So he went back in and shot
@d3monKid3 ай бұрын
As far as I know, nobody can talk directly to the Judge about their cases specifically if you know them personally. And if the Judge know them personally, they need to excuse themselves from the case and have another Judge handle it.
@jlvandat693 ай бұрын
Reporters aren't supposed to be drama queens........just the facts, ma'am.
@nomdeguerre2473 ай бұрын
You sound like a drama queen.
@jlvandat693 ай бұрын
@@nomdeguerre247 I do? Hmmm....maybe I switch careers and become a reporter?
@horsehide30393 ай бұрын
@@nomdeguerre247 You sound like a drama princess
@ethancampbell15293 ай бұрын
What do you expect from someone with a Ukraine flag in their thumbnail?
@jlvandat693 ай бұрын
@@ethancampbell1529 Russian Bots and DJT make me nauseous.
@lusen633 ай бұрын
IMHO; Judge was helping the wife and daughter get away from an abusive household. That’s why the sheriff claimed they were going to be kidnapped. More likely they wanted to get away from the husband and father
@bonnieleeamos3 ай бұрын
The chief doesn't look like he has regret
@IzzyBee2223 ай бұрын
Would you have regret if you found out someone was molesting your child? Which is bring alleged in Whitesburg according to my relatives who live near there!
@bonnieleeamos3 ай бұрын
@@IzzyBee222 absolutely not.
@namastea3 ай бұрын
@DonnaLynn73 is this factual ? I haven't been following this trial too much
@rickallen63783 ай бұрын
@@IzzyBee222 Put up th evidence you have of that or quit spreading false information.
@IzzyBee2223 ай бұрын
@@namastea It’s alleged by others in the community.
@mscnhou13 ай бұрын
No matter what the why turns out to be. He's guilty as hell.
@marcbahn54873 ай бұрын
You definitely don't want jury duty, do ya?
@ernestclary60353 ай бұрын
He is literally on film shooting the judge.
@marcbahn54873 ай бұрын
Did ya read the Kentucky statute on the definitions of guilt that Vinnie put up on the screen?
@mscnhou13 ай бұрын
@@marcbahn5487 Did you see the whole video? Very disturbing
@Gochyooh3 ай бұрын
CORRUPTED AMERICA
@BrianSmith-gp9xr2 ай бұрын
You three are condoning murder .He deliberately took his life. His daughter was in zero imminent danger. Every killer is under stress. The judges family now is under emotional stress .Do they get a free pass if they shoot the Sherrif outside the courtroom? Of course not. How many other people did the Sherrif shoot in his correer? Like you lost your minds.
@Ro.Mother-of-Pearl3 ай бұрын
It broke my heart hearing the wails from the judge's widow. I hope the sheriff hears everyday for the rest of his life.
@auntbee19593 ай бұрын
That judge was doing something wrong. When the wife finds out, she might stop crying for her husband.
@Corinne-v9c3 ай бұрын
@@auntbee1959 maybe & maybe not! Just bcz the Judge got killed doesn't necessarily mean he was up to no good. And regardless...even IF that former sheriff discovered the judge was up to no good with his daughter...the LAW states that they should be *arrested & tried for their crimes*, not shot dead on-the-spot. Now we all know that former sheriff was *not* deserving of the job he had. He obviously has a violent temper & impulse control problems. And you're over here obliquely rooting for that former sheriff? smdh
@theempath5083 ай бұрын
They are some privileged bourgeois people! Anyone else would have been told to stop that or do all that crying outside or told to control themselves!
@akbychoice3 ай бұрын
@@Corinne-v9cand if the judge was up to no good involving the Sherrif’s daughter? All bets are off when protecting your family from corrupt officials that rarely are held accountable.
@susanboggs16123 ай бұрын
I don't think that investigator is being completely transparent. He knows alot more,they are having to pull every bit of information from him.
@shellycaldwell6173 ай бұрын
Thats why the state of KY should not be investigating this. IT should be the FBI.
@TheThomasMom3 ай бұрын
This is a preliminary hearing, they only need to disclose enough information to convince the judge that the charges are warranted.
@crimewithlaboricua3 ай бұрын
Agreed he seem to be backpedaling.
@connieford28633 ай бұрын
I don’t trust any of them except for that sheriff.
@NeightrixPrime3 ай бұрын
@@shellycaldwell617 Ah yes let the most corrupt entity investigate.
@scaramouche6003 ай бұрын
Since everyone is speculating, has the possibility been considered that maybe Judge had video implicating the sheriff in the ongoing proceedings of sexual misconduct in the chambers?
@Juke5823 ай бұрын
Could be because these other idiots speculations make zero sense with the wife and daughter right there in court supporting the sheriff! 🤦♀️ amazes me how dumb people are!
@jenniferruth8123 ай бұрын
@@Juke582 ah yes, bc victims never stay w their abusers, right?
@Asidebar3 ай бұрын
@@Juke582 You assuming the wife and daughter were there in court for support of the X Sheriff
@LewisBrazelz3 ай бұрын
The main rumor I've seen is the sheriff was abusive to his family and the judge was helping his wife divorce him. The sheriff used the judges phone and called his own family so when they answered for the judge but not for his calls, he lost it and shot the judge. That's why he borrowed his phone before the shooting but who knows the truth unless someone comes out with the facts
@eeayquetting59633 ай бұрын
@@LewisBrazelzThe main rumor I've heard is that the judge was diddling the sheriff's daughter
@joelprice68282 ай бұрын
Murder is murder, and it is not okay if you carry a badge and gun.
@crimenurse82643 ай бұрын
Thanks Vinnie for covering this. You are one of only two people from Court tv I trust
@karlaschaffner65923 ай бұрын
Huh. A police that refuses to wait for justice & takes it into his own hands. Its almost like I've heard this story before....
@MichaelLopez-o3c3 ай бұрын
You have
@nvader882 ай бұрын
This whole department is dirty. Good 'ol boy network in action.
@LouLikestowatch3 ай бұрын
So we don't even know the true motive?? The killer is not saying why he did it? He has no good reason that's why. The judge was trying to help his wife and daughter get away from the murderous idiot
@25447carepear3 ай бұрын
I reallyam not going to sit through this whole thing. Anybody know what the motive is?🙄
@allengreen462 ай бұрын
I love how they say they will play the video but play only snippets
@catherineturley3 ай бұрын
It makes more sense to me that the sheriff was actually molesting women too and the judge was going to disclose that fact. Maybe the judge had the daughter's number in order to get her and the wife some help getting away from the sheriff. That would explain the kidnapping comment.
@sandyb23793 ай бұрын
This sounds more believable than people saying the judge was
@GenoSalvati3 ай бұрын
Since when is a police officer (lead investigator?) so nervous and shifty when giving testimony in a preliminary hearing for murder?
@968porsche93 ай бұрын
No one heard anyone ask for anything. So how could he testify that the sheriff asked the judge to use his phone? Unless it was part of a written statement. Just seeing a mute video of the passing of a phone doesnt mean the sheriff asked for it. The judge may have asked the sheriff to make that call.
@yorkiem0m2 ай бұрын
Why is there a trial, he murdered the judge, it's on video, it don't matter if there was a "reason" in the eyes of the Sheriff. Murder is murder. Why a trial?
@naturalselection10962 ай бұрын
You must live in China. A trial is not just about what he did, or if he did it. A trial is for a jury or judge to determine WHAT charge best fits the crime. The state can charge the sheriff with Murder 1, but then the jury decides that Murder 2 better fits the crime, which is a passion killing, not a pre-planned spontaneous killing. Those two murders have vastly different lengths of prison. You don't just show a 4 minute video and then throw them in prison. That's not how our legal system works.
@lesliecram24152 ай бұрын
So this fool ate lunch with the judge then killed him?!
@jennifersumner66192 ай бұрын
If you haven't lived in a small town, you wouldn't understand. Secrets run generations.
@Curtis19843 ай бұрын
@31:25 I'm glad she believes God is before us, and we are before Him. Powerful statement she threw in there. 🙏
@audreydaleski10673 ай бұрын
Sheriff is off his rocker.
@tyronestucker89803 ай бұрын
If the wife was leaving the sheriff wouldn’t her number be on the judges phone instead of the daughters? Just asking.
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
Not if it was the daughter who reached out to him. We also don't know that the wife's number wasn't also on his phone.
@woowaptibam52533 ай бұрын
People are confusing her number being on the phone from the sheriff using the judges phone to call his daughter. That's alot different then the daughters number being saved as a contact.
@SparrowHope3 ай бұрын
He was most likely keeping a really close eye on his wife's phone.
@tonilharmon3 ай бұрын
@@woowaptibam5253 Very true.
@Fires7552 ай бұрын
So sheriff wife af daughter sat right behind him in court, and? Created a $$$$$ go fund me for his defence ????
@virginiariley15 күн бұрын
It is alleged that the judge was pursuing a sexual relationship with the daughter. Furthermore the judge was an influence on the Wife/Mother.
@DanielSanta-Olalla3 ай бұрын
This detective seems he doesn't want to be there.
@davidjacobs32753 ай бұрын
Would you? He's probably worked with both of the people involved.
@commiesnzombies3 ай бұрын
lazy detective
@ChelleLlewes3 ай бұрын
He doesn't. He keeps calling the sheriff by his first name; they know each other. Even if they're not best buds, it has to be uncomfortable for the detective to be investigating someone he has worked with.
@jamsng3 ай бұрын
@@ChelleLlewes That's why their redneck asses should have called the FBI to investigate the case!