Shifter: Context

[@photom3]

I appreciate you doing these films because most of KZbin makes me want a bath. I just wanted to say that in all these years you have remained consistent with your message about the work you love. That’s going back to the early days of your blog. So different than the, what’s hot today, crowd. I’ll never be a noteworthy photographer but what I have learned helps me critique my own pictures.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Yo Harold, not sure why anyone would want to be noteworthy anymore. A ghost is better. My favorite photography has changed dramatically in the last decade. Same for the kind of book I like. My book shelves are filled with a wild array of style and genre. Same for the work on the walls.

[@photom3]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 okay I’ll be the ghost with the white cheddar cheese puffs. -;)

[@BryanBirks]

Hey Daniel, just wanted to say I appreciate your videos. I also wanted to thank you for your comments on my work with Critical Mass. Hearing you say an image of mine was strong was a nice shove to push forward with the work.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Congrats on submitting. And happy to share my thoughts. Hope it helped.

[@12macevedo]

Solid talk. When photography Rob Lowe speaks I listen 🙌

[@PedroDeBandit]

Dan, since stumbling upon you I have seen my relationship with my photography deepen and gain purpose. For a little context, I've just turned 60 and my first camera was a Spotmatic SP. I now have in my sights a project that scares me, but one I know I can spend the next 10+ years on believing that at the end I might have created something of value. I don't believe for a moment that it would have began without your direction, insight, and the odd wise crack. Thank you.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

First off, is that your real name? If so, coolest ever. Second, thank you for the kind words. Anytime I can add anything to anyone it's a good thing. Send me an email. Love to know about the project.

[@PedroDeBandit]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 sent you an email Dan 👍 Regards, Pedro De Bandit.

[@martinlawrence8427]

Gotta love a Dan video…filled to the brim with hard truths…delivered with style and energy…and mirrored glasses indoors!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Style over substance.

[@martinlawrence8427]

Oh, I’d say both in roughly equal measure…with a dollop of self deprecating humour for the viewers ease of digestion.

[@davidb9682]

Awesome as always Dan. So great to get a video from you again on this platform. Always inspiring, honest, educational, amusing and motivating. Thx.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Thanks David. Glad you enjoyed.

[@RichardSilvius]

Welcome back Dan! As usual - showing me things I have never seen before. Always appreciated.

[@pinstripesandpedals]

Good God. TWFMFP is gut wrenching. There are stories in that book - the kids drawings and oral histories - that will never leave me. And the through-line of Larry’s work: family, humanity, poverty, place, home, displacement. The way he connects it to what he values: his family, his connection to the land, and the history they have there. It’s just a masterclass.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Ya. It's so many layers beyond most of the books I see. But it also took decades to produce. This gets lost for a lot of folks who want instant relevance and instant fame. Heck, the book production most likely took 12-18 months.

[@federico.dal.bianco]

I am an outer inhabitant of the photographic universe, spinning on the asteroid I've spawned in, in the galaxy of the social media content, regularly engulfed by the Gear Aquisition Syndrome geomagnetic storm. For some random reasons, maybe not so random but still outside my awareness, scanning the sky for new ideas I stumbled upon your messages conveied by your videos. I think these rays of though love and analog reality might be life changing. Maybe I will end my photographic days on this asteroid anyways, but at least I will know better. As a blue collar 9-5 worker I have little time to dedicate to projects, but this doesn't stop me from doing it. Such a great thing to have met your work.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Hey, you work with what you have. Once you start making images with meaning, the idea of how you did it falls away.; Then comes the obsession with making more.

[@federico.dal.bianco]

​@@DANIELMILNOR505 and this is what projects are, from my understanding, connecting the sense of meaning to the mere act of photographing. I have been on an internal journey for meaning for a while, destination unknown, multifaceted, plural and unreachable, yet the sensation of existing as a living and feeling being finally is set. I am currently living in rural Norway, filling up my journal with projects ideas! Something I struggled so much to find. The 'what should I photograph', dictated by the social media with the instant sharing in mind, has finally dissipated. Now it's me and the world, the camera just an instrument. I took my first black&white photo of the northern lights some days ago. Why? Because I felt like it! Such a little act, such a great relief.

[@robertgordon6362]

Extremely well done. Three cheers for humanistic project photography. Thank you.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

endangered species...

[@iamtesting3824]

thank you for your brutally honest opinion

[@meyers323]

As a young person whose friends are all obsessed with what film stock, what camera, what lens, your videos are so refreshing! Once you look at real work that's been published in a book, there is no going back. Thank you.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Yes, it's a curse in some ways. Once you know it's there, these "three day" anythings aren't impactful.

[@abrooklyngirllinda]

brother, this is the kind of content i live for. brilliant as usual as per dan milnor. please keep it coming. i always learn so much and its all so inspiring. (and i'd kill to see that film developed and printed. what mysteries lie in those frames)?!!!!

[@mithrastemplar]

Great to see you back. Since you started with context, I think the context of which KZbin photography happens is also important. I've been around long enough to remember when the content providers in question all started openly stating that they were leaving their day jobs and transitioning to KZbin full time. I'm not sure how many of them then fully appreciated just how tied to the machine they would get. When you are in your teens and twenties, you don't understand how your responsibilities, especially the financial ones, grow with time. So now, many, if not most, of them NEED to make these gear review videos or clickbait videos, because that is how they are supporting themselves and their families. I always keep that in mind and try not to judge too harshly. I don't watch those for the art of photography, but generally sometimes they can be a good resource on seeing what the capabilities of a camera can be like. Even someone like Ted Forbes, who's early videos are just fantastic about the WHO of photography and the art of it, has now largely migrated to gear content, mixed with the stuff that brings back a sense of the old days. Not coincidentally, there was a run a couple of years ago, on multiple channels, of folks taking about the mental stress of being on KZbin and needing to take a break. Also, I think you know, but some of these channels are fans of yours. I know I've seen a couple of them who fit your description to a tee, comment on some of your past videos. I can only imagine that it isn't a pleasant watch to sit through this one. How many reach out to you and how do you take it when they do? I also find myself a 2-week owner of a Leica camera (digital) after many years of first Fuji and then Nikon. Still have a Nikon Z8, and what a superb camera, but for a hobbyist like me, whose 1st love and use of photography is just daily captures of family and stuff, the Z8 can be a chore to pick up and just have around. Works great when we go on vacation with its rugged nature, but wanting something without a lens that didn't look like I was continuously sticking a bazooka in someone's face, I've landed in the Leica world. The prices are ridiculous, but on the flip side, I actually think none of the other camera companies CARE as much about photography as they do. The prints in the stores, the galleries they still host, including online, actually fostering a community. It's a small thing, but it does matter. I just wish Nikon with their own history, gave an equivalent answer.

[@ScottAlanPhotography7]

On point! Thank you sir!

[@legionchef]

Great to have you back.

[@SCHOOLOFLIGHT]

The virus of really good photography. Love it mate. Nice to hang out again. 🙏

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Once you have it....its' like Lyme. Got it for life.

[@chrisathanasiadisphoto]

Great talk challenging us to push ourselves. Thanks for the inspiration.

[@Shiekaaah]

I feel all of what you say here. I was born in the 90s, and the flow of life didnt bring photography to me until the recent decade or so, but that came in the form of work from people like Josef Kouldelka, Mary Ellen Mark, Gordon Parks, ETC. Whenever I meet people my age who also take pictures, the conversation is NEVER about intent or deeper meanings, it's almost always gear and surface level beauty and its agonizing. Which by the way, I taught myself on analog cameras, and like your m4 to you, my Nikon F2 is what gets me in my feels, to the degree that it basically never leaves my side unless I'm sleeping. I hope I can someday leave behind a body of work thats meaningful to not only me, but people like you and others who really care to dig a bit deeper than the surface - I think for me, I just havent quite found that story to tell, or hell, I could be telling it already and I just haven't realized. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us Daniel. You continue to be one of many inspirations for me and a great source of wisdom.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Most of YT photography is shallow. Again, all about views. People seem willing to make whatever gets views. Like "Three Days In..." films. As a photographer, these aren't useful. But they sure get views.

[@burneshollyman2621]

Welcome back. Life has lost its meaning since you paused. Great video!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Glad you are finding something of note.

[@bronzepodcast]

Shows up, pulls a bag with an investment fund in gear and 10 different stories that could be written and told. This is the meaning of aging, experience, craftmanship. It takes years to get there, enjoy it and keep spreading knowledge.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

These were nothing special when I bought them. Now, revered for some reason. Original designers are probably laughing while making it rain in some backwater club.

[@johnyoung1606]

A word You use "IMPACTFUL" !! That is what this FILM is!!!!!!!!!! I just watched it for the second time :) :) :)

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Keep going.

[@satejonetsu]

As Stanley Greene once said: "I think it's better to build a body of work which demonstrates the longevity of time. Photography possesses the remarkable ability to cut the facts and figures and show us the human impact behind them."

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Yep, he was all in. I met him and photographed him a few times over the years. Never anything one on one, but he was an interesting guy. His commitment was so far beyond what most people are willing to endure.

[@kurtkgledhill]

I know that you probably care but this is for me the best film you have made. Everything you said has really moved me! I’m kind of in a rut at the moment and for some reason everything you have said has just inspired me and cleared up my head! Thank you! Ps. Oh my god! I would give body parts for that bag that you don’t use anymore! Im down to just a Nikon FM10 now and I’m still blasting through probably a roll a day!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

The bag has a history. I'll get back to those things at some point. Or not. There was a ting of nostalgia.

[@TheKetchupPacket]

Milnor: "I'm not here to make anybody feel bad." Me: "Too late...." Milnor:(praphrase) : KZbin feeds G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) Me: Milnor feeds B.A.S (Book Acquisition Syndrome). Larry Towell's "The Mennonites" is epic work.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

That is one of the most perfect essays I’ve ever seen.

[@Hamsong]

Engaging video, as always, my friend. I have too many photography books, but while I’m trying to be a minimalist, I can’t part with them because they are so inspirational, and remind me of who I was when I bought them and why I love the images. Topic 2: I’ve long told people that the camera doesn’t matter in that I see the world the same way with any tool, but I do think that while everyone is marching toward faster and faster AF (and AI tracking, etc), there is value in cameras that require commitment and challenge. You have to accept that you will miss some shots with a rangefinder. I did get really good at inventing expletives when I knew I blew focus. Like you, my first M6 and 50 Summicron were revelatory to me and how I saw the world. What was I talking about? Oh yes: books where the images are properly curated and paced are increasingly rare. PS. I hope you are still getting on the bike. I’ve been doing more and more time on the e-bike while my joints recover from the side effects of taking a statin…

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Books and projects like these take YEARS and most people now are attempting to get famous very quickly. they want to spend days not years, hence the "three day" films. Again, for someone like me it's "What's the point?"

[@Huffoto]

The first time i really understood camera ASMR right here. That sound is incredible.

[@aandyjackson]

I've always collected photobooks and prefer that way of viewing photographs. i recently deleted my social apps, starting to build a website, and focusing more on spending time with photobooks and it's pretty incredible. it's amazing how much time is freed up for things like reading, journaling, and photography in general when you eliminate the doom-scrollings.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

The same thing I've been telling people since 2014. Life on the outside is better. most folks waste horrendous amounts of time on these platforms.

[@VedranHusremovic]

Dan, the OG photobookfluencer. Wonderful books. Off to track down copies...

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Thats me!

[@peter2712]

What kind of photography do I like. High contrast black and white tabloid pictures. I nice soft focus Batboy, true art.

[@AronjAnderson]

Great video D 🙋🏼‍♂️🙌🏻

[@The_Hero_Is_Back]

I thought you’d left YT? Congrats: the only YT video this month that mentions Leicas extensively but doesn’t mention the Q3 43 at all. Well done. Okay, go interject. See if we care.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I'm in between platforms. Shifter is main spot. But working on new vid strategy that is still a way off.

[@bofhberlin]

Inspiring as usual!

[@slipapedal]

Seriously Iam very relieved you exist on this platform, because those videos about cameras and films are just garbage!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Those films get mad traffic which is why they are made. They don’t really teach anyone anything, but middle aged geeky men will consume as much gear talk as someone can dish out.

[@ChristineWilsonPhotography]

Ive got a bag from tye 90's 😊 Tmax loved it, now you've done it i need to investigate those photographers, i knew about Larry but not the other one Anthony Suau. I was thinking the other day what did I do before social media - book shops and libraries lots of libraries.

[@johnyoung1606]

Late 60's- late 70's,,, My wanabe PJ's n I would hang , drink beer n, listen to LP vinyl, Cream, n Stones,,, a J or 3 n share such conversations: Smith, Burroughs, Bailey, Skrebneski, Newton etc. Nikons, n Pentax, maybe a 3F, or SP (Most of the old guys were using Rollei) BUT (Life was Great) Photography, Sex, Drugs, Rock n Roll !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Conversation !!!!! ThankYOU :) :) :)

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Just like today. Or not. Sexless teens, college students who date their screen. We're doomed.

[@TheCampbellseth]

Thank you so much for this inspiration. Unfortunately Trowells book is over $500 bucks now. If you wanted to do a review on it I would love it. I’ll add another book recommendation by a Leica shooter “John Demos Shadows of Silence. Also Constantine Manos Greek Portfolio.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Plenty of good Leica books out there, I'm sure.

[@riceboy890]

28:00 what are your thoughts on this new love for "post documentary" photography that focuses on the photographer and their lives in lieu of a typical documentary style approach?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I refer to these as "artist driven" book as opposed to "subject driven." I prefer subject. I see a lot of navel gazing and random imagery that we are supposed to apply meaning to. No thanks.

[@arrow-from-the-sun]

Whenever I feel like reading David Foster Wallace, I always end up wathcing Daniel Milnor videos on the same day.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I'll take it.

[@arrow-from-the-sun]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 Good! 😇

[@bioliv1]

You're back! Like Batel Skater, she always comes back🙂

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I'm renting.

[@manuelaguilar2175]

Happy to see you back and in full shape Dan! Have you seen the photobooks by Jason Eskenazi? If not I think you’ll like them.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I have. It's been a while. Lots of good books out there.

[@efraguerrero]

I love this advice. I came from painting to photography, and I noticed right away on youtube that it was all about gear and not actual photography. It made no sense to me. I purposely got the Fuji X100V because of the fixed lense. To each their own I suppose.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

KZbin is about views and subs. That's it. And many folks are willing to make whatever achieves those views. Like "Three Days In...."films.

[@Tinaleann_]

Please don't listen to those people. You don't have to have $5000 worth of gear to do photography. I'm so tired of these "youtubers" telling me I need to get the newest gear. Pisses me off. I still use a Canon rebel t6i. No shame.

[@TheTuscaloosa]

Good advice Daniel. Thanx a lot. Regards from Germany ( living close to Leica HQ 😂)

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

See you in March! Doing a workshop 1-9 and hitting EMOP as well.

[@DonGiannatti]

80-200MM "The Magic Drainpipe"

[@ChoppersModelworks]

I am becoming to develop an idea that one can learn more from a photographer/artist's work life and struggles then their work itself. What i mean by this is that yes most great photographers also become great writers to better tie their work together and give deeper meaning to the work. But also, even in modern times we all are going through most of the same struggles of those that came before us and we can learn from others experiences to know most of us will never become known, but we can still do great work and put in the time to better our perspective to the craft. A little overlooked book out there that has some amazing images that those that know Kodak history may even recognize is the book "Witch of Kodakery, the photography of Myra Albert Wiggins 1869-1956". For me personally the photography prints that engrained a context of greatness or a bar of high standard was the stacks of carbon, palladium and platinum prints that came into an antique show back in maybe 1983 from a closed print shop. These were all large exposition prints from a show back in the mid-teens to maybe early 20's and the pictorialism images that drifted from the paper were something totally new to me. To my surprise even back then at the high price of $70-$100 each they were sold fairly quickly.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Looking at prints back when paper was rich in silver is life changing. Those papers don't exist today but the legacy of those prints certainly does.

[@paulgero]

Thanks for the pep talk Mav!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

NEVER leave your wingman. Unless there is personal gain involved.

[@juanQuedo]

Uncle Dano showing off with all that film and not caring

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

It only matters what I do with it, and at the moment that means nada...

[@juanQuedo]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 that's why it hurts, the endless possibilities 😅

[@michaelsilveradventure5712]

So there’s a scene in The Good the Bad and the Ugly where Tuco is assembling a new revolver and he brings the barrel to his ear to hear the clicks of the advance lever. 😂 You listening to the film advance lever reminded me of that.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Cameras and guns are quite similar. At least for me. Same skill set.

[@flickrmark]

Recommendations? Ok, two you'll probably know (& no doubt hung out/played pool with etc) include Matt Black (American Geography) and Phil Penman (New York Street Diaries) - picked up both books this year and sooo glad I did....From China two random guys you may like : Don Hong-Oai, whose photos look like traditional Chinese paintings and has been "emulated" by younger photographers since....and a photojournalist named Lu Guang whose powerful work led him to be - errr - "disappeared" possibly even "unalived"....one can only hope not 🤞 Cheers from Oz

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I've spoken with Matt a few times but it's been years. The others I don't know but there are plenty, and you mention China. I just spend two weeks in Japan and there list of working photographers is substantial as well.

[@CP23798]

Nice Bill Murray impression.

[@WolfgangWhyte]

I was 18 minutes into this before I realized my dealer hasn't called me back yet...

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Well, get them on the horn!

[@WolfgangWhyte]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 T-plus-one hour since contact… we are five by five, and orbit has been achieved 🛰

 Always enjoy your blurbs Mr Milnor! Quality topic and quality personality all for the low, low price of one like… can’t beat that, and I thank you for it 😊

[@DigitalImageStudio]

I got rid of all my old Leica M kit years back except for my M4.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Smart...now worth 10,000 Bitcoin.

[@Being_Joe]

Got my M3 in a trade for a X-T2. Some of my favorite work is with that M3. And oh yeah, I got to see French Photo Magazine.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

French was the bomb.

[@ralf.mueller]

Thanks for the references to Anthony Suau and Larry Towell, wonderful photography, unfortunately the books are long sold out, will try to get them. Couldn't agree more on the grain accounts here on YT shooting abandoned gas stations with a M6 and seem to have invented film 5 years ago, it is funny, pathetic and a waste of time. So please Daniel, YT needs more of your content.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I figured those books might be out of print. And yes, gas stations seem to be a "thing" now.

[@Wateraddict1]

Depending on the numbered camera, that M4 was built in the same city I live in. The building is still standing but Leica has moved on.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Same age as me. Bought for $500. Rebuilt by Leica for free. Oh, those were the days.

[@riceboy890]

22:30 tried looking for this book but the only book called "Night Letters" about Afghanistan is by Chris Sands and Fazelminallah Qazizai. Is that the one?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Nope. Rob Schulties, or something close to that. A written book not a photo book.

[@JJ_Photo]

Great episode Daniel. Keep them coming! So much bad stuff out there. Clickbait 🤮

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Well, YT is about clickbait. Views, subs, etc. I was never about good. The first ever viral account on YT was fake.

[@TedPartrick]

Thanks for tackling the issue of lousy photography. I think you are almost 100 percent right on the problem of billions of crumby photos loaded on the internet every day. And how can we recognize this? By studying the printed works found in museums , galleries, and, especially, in books.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

And even understanding the difference between what is landing online and what is being produced in the industry of photography.

[@bronzepodcast]

​@@DANIELMILNOR505 True. I can't make a living with great photos. My customers want photos they like. This is the dichotomy of the artist now. Did Caravaggio enjoyed all his work? Highly doubt it. Most Working photographers take pictures their customer like and unfortunately people like crap more and more. Gosh we're doing vertical video FFS.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

@@bronzepodcast The key is finding the customers who know what good is. This is becoming more and more difficult, especially in short form era where if something doesn't go viral within two days it's viewed as a failed experiment. But, the good clients are out there. Having just come from Adobe Max, I've seen examples of this relationship again and again. Photographers now must be educators. Based on the interviews I had during this event, social media influencers are undermining the ENTIRE industry, so educating clients has become more of a pressing need.

[@bronzepodcast]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 you nailed it. Influencers are like the Nazgul of culture. They are bound by the clicks of power. Still I think that is a micro culture, as you just said, theres still a lot of normal people out there.

[@MikePGuitars]

Big hitter, the Lama.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Kungaalunga. Spackler.

[@ZenoWatson]

Another two great books are "Chinese On The Train" by Wang Fuchun. And "Return to Mexico : Journeys Beyond the Mask" by Abbas

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I have two copies of the Abbas book but HOW I got the first one is the story.

[@patvasquez-cunningham8209]

"Fill flash!", "Fill flash!"... man, I got so frick'n sick of hearing that daily refrain from the photo editors at the ABQ Journal. Man, you just triggered me. Haha!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Hahahahaa, then you KNOW what I'm talking about. It wasn't because it looked cool.

[@patrick_stewart]

"there's no shit filler" - a great book title btw

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Print it out!

[@KamiruBTS]

Holy Yap

[@josephjamessilva]

stanley greene open wound: chechnya 1994-2003

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

There you go. Another example. But there are plenty of people who don't shoot conflict that did long form work. The majority actually.

[@quarlo.]

Yes, I am with you and agree that you are the perfect underwear model but now that I am retired and have experienced, lived, and absorbed such great work how does one ever return to mediocre picture-taking? Because everything I do now is so boring... god help me!

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

You gotta look under some new rocks. There is something out there, or under there, waiting for you.

[@Asiaddicted]

I have the same black paint M4, you really don’t need anything else

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

It's a keeper.

[@CristianGeelen]

Still the fountain of youth...

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Under the weather at the moment...

[@denislaroche3957]

the team At VII agency, 15 years ago, i dont know how there doing right now… Ron Haviv was part of it

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Yes. Their staff does great work. VU, NOOR, there are others.

[@DonGiannatti]

Book link?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Which one?

[@DonGiannatti]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 I found them. As expected, they are not available. Looking for used copies. God I miss the heydays of book portfolio publishing. And at the same time, I love seeing the new stuff - the indie stuff - that are amazing.

[@terencemorrissey4413]

Larry Towell is releasing this month, his new book about Ukraine, The History War.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I'm sure it will be solid.

[@terencemorrissey4413]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 Larry is still using the Xpan, no digital camera was ever made could replace it.

[@javicxjavicx]

Thought the video was titled content and just about had a stroke

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Ha. Glad I could put the scare in you!

[@qnetx]

Have you seen the movie, Lee? The Kate Winslet film on the life of Lee Miller?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Not yet. I'm about a decade behind in my film consumption. She was a badass, so it's on the list.

[@klinkhamerphoto]

What kind of flashbulb are you on today?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

super unleaded

[@andrewgulland8012]

I am sure you know her work already...but if not the check out the amazing work of Emily Garthwaite. Long term doc photo work in Iraq, mainly.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

shifter.media/read-wounded-tigress/

[@sprucemoose3000]

Also. (Watching further) Would love your M4 and rest of your p3200 film stock if you’re selling… or trading.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Will keep for a while longer.

[@sprucemoose3000]

I agree. I’ve been trying to find decent photography on KZbin but most of it’s pretty average. Run of the mill high school student mindset. Just no depth to any of the photos. No story or context. For semi random photos to have any meaning they need to be part of a bigger picture like 10 years worth of one story like your mate Tony.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Well, there is hope. YT is not about good photography. YT is about following. The good stuff is out there, just not on YT.

[@jimh1946]

Why am I watching this?

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Are you trapped in an elevator or serving hard time?

[@WhoIsSerafin]

That expired film is dream to shoot for today’s hipster kids.😂

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

I've got cases of film, still. Can't imagine what it's worth.

[@yakobmorley]

Definitely thought that was a bag of drugs

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

There are hidden compartments.

[@yakobmorley]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 🤣🤣🤜🤛

[@JohnPatrickWeiss]

People on the fringe are more interesting. I think it was Christopher Hitchens who, when asked if he was worried about going to hell for not believing in God, said he’d prefer hell, because that’s where the interesting people are.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Man, did I have a night with him. Newport Beach, a few years before he died. That's a story for another night.

[@JohnPatrickWeiss]

A night with Hitch, I can only imagine. Please share the story sometime.

[@elizabethmacdonald5398]

System Normal All Fucked Up. snafu.

[@BarryMaskell]

For those of you in the cheap seats I'd like ya to lift up your Panasonic Lumixs to this one; the rest of you can just rattle your Leicas! - John Lennon

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Was he on Istagram?

[@kevinsolie2208]

I think you miss me

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Of course I do Kevvy Baby.

[@wayanbarre]

Too bad most of these photobooks are now collectibles :-$ Wish I could make my hand on one.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

There are new books by new photographers, thankfully.

[@wayanbarre]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 true. One recommendation from my recent discoveries: Some Say Ice by Alessandra Sanguinetti.

[@azamatosh]

if you want new ideas, go and read old books (c)

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Yep. Just waiting for us to open them. Most are too busy in IG.

[@azamatosh]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 Daniel, I really enjoyed your deep dive into real photojournalism. I'm from Osh, Kyrgyzstan, and it’s inspiring to hear about the real and brave work of photographers in tough places back then. Today, social media favors short videos and gear talk over meaningful photography, and while I love taking pictures, they haven't always felt intentional, but the sake of likes. Yes, a few times my friends from media asked me to shoot topics like childhood, my city, fall, or sports, but I realize that your time was unique and in demand. Prints mattered back then, and now I don’t even know where to look at or share my work even if I wake up as the next 'Eugene Smith.' Your videos make me reflect on where I fit in this time and place. Good to have you back.

[@aantonic]

talking about Putin, how Gaza, huh? how about you talk about Mr Bibi and go take photos in Gaza? anyway go to Chechnia now and see how it looks like now or go to see the stolen land of Kosovo.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Were I to get a chance, I'd go to any of those places.

[@christiannialki7605]

You sound as if good work has to be dangerous (disentigration of USSR, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, etc.) Why? And not any project needs to stretch over months and years. If the work is done seriously, meaningful, and not superficially and self-glorifying it doesn´t need to. Conflict work and long projects can be crap.

[@DANIELMILNOR505]

Never even came close to saying any such thing. Plenty of non-dangerous work books to consume. Done by highly skilled folks who put the time and knowledge in. And by the way, parts of those books I mentioned required danger zone photography but most of them did not. As for timelines for great projects. They most often do stretch into months and years. At least in my 35+ years of watching photographers complete them.

[@christiannialki7605]

@@DANIELMILNOR505 Hi, check out your video from min 16:30 and 20:20 on. And then you refer to Larry Towell, of whom you seem to be a great fan (understandably). His work is not on Menonites only but: Kyiv 2022, Gaza 1993, El Salvador many times, Afghanistan. Maybe ...... But you must know. And yes, most good work needs time, patience, access, rapport, but the time it takes to get work done is the least important. I think after working in photojournalism for 15 years only.

[@sprucemoose3000]

Also. (Watching further) Would love your M4 and rest of your p3200 film stock if you’re selling… or trading.