5 Most Dangerous Judo Throws - STILL LEGAL

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Shintaro Higashi

Shintaro Higashi

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@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 2 жыл бұрын
After 10 years of training judo and training with excelent judokas, one guy didn't break my balance, but instead everything in my right knee with his attempt of a tiatoshi. I tried several times to get back into the sport, but the knee injuirees stuck with me my whole life and there just wasn't a chance to do the sport anymore without sever pain and risking my knee to get stiff permanently. Still loving the sport and dreaming about it.
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 2 жыл бұрын
Do some research into the stuff some clinics are doing with people's own fat stem cells, one of the black belts at our dojo avoided an invasive knee surgery and was back on the mat in an amazingly short period of time.
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 2 жыл бұрын
@@larryzach7880 well back then i had some of the best doctors available here in germany, those which are responsible for national sports cadres. The operations i got were topnotch for sure. Still i might have another look into it, as in 30 years a lot certainly can change. Not sure though that my insurrance would pay for it or if that would then lead to me taking up the sport again. I am living without any other big problems. I can walk normaly, just hitting the floor with the knee isn't an option ^^ and don't get me started should ever my knee get into a similar situation again, there is some fear because of that too. The worst part i remember was when they pulled the tubes out of my knee and were late in doing so ... meaning the flesh already settled in the small spots where the blood and operation leftovers should flow away through. I don't easily cry or scream, but that did it for me hrhr.
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinngrimm Sorry to hear that, I didn't realize it was that long ago, I have no idea if the new discoveries will still have the same benefits on old surgeries.
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 2 жыл бұрын
@@larryzach7880 no need to appologize :) you had good intentions. I guess also that it isn't so much about old surgeries, but rather about me getting older which makes this not something to consider lightly. Every operation where you are cut open "could" have adverse effects, may it be because of nowadays multi resistant bacterias(that we humans really fucked up complettly, but hey at least we can eat meat till it comes out of our ears ^^), nerves being severed not growing back together again which leaves areas where you cant feel much of anything, depending on what needs to be done with the bones and their condition(i am not that old yet but, the older one gets often bones become a bit brittle(?), depending on which medication one is already on and then has to combine them with new once and over all things may not heal as quickly and complettly anymore as one was younger. So aslong there is no wonder drug or procedure, which would guarantee 100% functionality afterwards, i would be rather hesitant.
@nicoanon
@nicoanon Жыл бұрын
stem cells
@citizen762
@citizen762 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, in bjj class, hiki comi gaeshi is one of the first throws we learn right after osoto as a white belt. Our bjj professor is also a judo black belt as well. But he also advocates the same angle method as sensei, rolling with the opponents shoulder in the chest. I’ve been thrown scores of times with this throw without injury - so far.
@pp00xyzzy
@pp00xyzzy 2 жыл бұрын
against typical BJJ stance those are good choices.
@sampokemppainen3041
@sampokemppainen3041 2 жыл бұрын
Because you need to be able to proggress even after the throw. There is no ippon existing in bjj
@shemshem9998
@shemshem9998 2 жыл бұрын
sure it was hiki? not an differnt grip?
@TheRattimusPrime
@TheRattimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Sumí gaeshi is a pretty solid single leg counter. And since 90% of single legs in Bjj are head inside it takes the spiking aspect out.
@mrboy9658
@mrboy9658 2 жыл бұрын
wow you learn stand up wrestling in bjj
@phyrisl2
@phyrisl2 2 жыл бұрын
A failed Tani otoshi snapped my ACL 6 months into judo and ended my grappling for 8 months. At this point I've been recovering longer than I've trained thanks to one training partner not knowing how to do a throw during stegeko. I truly love grappling, it's so painful that a moment of negligence cost me so much (thousands of dollars in medical bills and not being able to train with my friends)
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I had been training for 6 months and a new white belt came in (he has blue belt in BJJ at that point).. We did randori (which we probably shouldn't do with each other, since we're both new..) I did a Ko Soto Gake, probably wasn't the best technique but I'm confident it wasn't an extremely dangerous position I put him in. Anyways the guy fell backwards and tore his ACL.. I don't even know what happened.. He was a big guy too, and I think he just had very poor knee flexibility/mobility and strength, and I also suspect he wrapped his foot around my angle as I came in, locking his OWN knee so when he fell backwards his foot was stuck wrapped around my ankle and his entire weight coming down, forcing his knee apart.
@KingJancelot
@KingJancelot 11 ай бұрын
@@Drikkerbadevand I guess that is why over the many many years Judo has been watered down, cause it doesn't take much in a maritial art that is designed to inflicted lots of damage.
@frostysmoke37
@frostysmoke37 2 ай бұрын
Lol I also did judo for about 6 months and tore my ACL I've been out longer than I've actually trained. It sux because I was loving doing judo and bjj classes back to back. My cardio and stamina were improving and I was noticeably gettimg better, at least I thought so
@steventhehistorian
@steventhehistorian 2 ай бұрын
I feel you man. Best of luck in your recovery.
@cptant7610
@cptant7610 2 жыл бұрын
I think plain old O Soto Gari is the throw most likely to result in concussion. It's almost impossible to do proper ukemi on and if someone underestimates the throwing force the back of their head gets slammed onto the mat real easily.
@chestermosburger3113
@chestermosburger3113 2 жыл бұрын
i know this from experience!
@wsg4847
@wsg4847 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, from my judo days (long ago) I remember being thrown with O-Soto so hard it felt like I was going through the floor. And this was with me knowing it was coming, on a tatami, and me doing ukemi. I believe this to be an excellent self-defense throw. Relative height and weight are not as important as they are with koshi-waza or te-waza, and doing a forceful O-Soto on an attacker on a hard surface means he is not getting up anytime soon.
@judoapprentice2326
@judoapprentice2326 2 жыл бұрын
I tried looking for a video of this technique and couldn't find it, perhaps it's because I'm not sure what to look for. Would you be able to send a video of this o soto?
@fleetasura5224
@fleetasura5224 2 жыл бұрын
@@judoapprentice2326 I think it's on the 5 basic judo throw video from this channel
@quantumationsgaming3387
@quantumationsgaming3387 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember doing an O Soto Gari styled trip during some drilling, and I accidentally put a bit too much force pushing them downward, Didn't give them a concussion or anything, but definitely gave them a bad headache
@cwpreston
@cwpreston Жыл бұрын
I had my shoulder separated permanently by someone doing a sode tsuri komi goshi like makikomi- drove me straight to the mat with no chance of a fall. 25 years later I’ve had surgery to repair what they could but Im out of practice til it recovers. Be good to your partners judokas!
@outlander271
@outlander271 9 ай бұрын
Well said about being good to one’s partners. Some very selfish Toris about being reckless and injuring their partners during practice.
@edwhlam
@edwhlam 2 жыл бұрын
Seen two separated shoulders from soto makakomi. One of them, I was tori, when I was a kid decades ago. Had been very careful with it ever since.
@minorityofone1510
@minorityofone1510 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the technique breakdowns - Great narrative and breakdowns of the mechanics as usual . As a trad jiu jitsu practitioner i think it is important to know how the old jiu jitsu (where Kano developed his original syllabus from) technique really worked to maim, disable, or kill an opponent (ie by throwing them onto their shoulder or head) so you know how not to throw your training partner in a way that is dangerous.
@GuilhermeIzquierdo
@GuilhermeIzquierdo Жыл бұрын
As "old jiu jitsu" you mean JU JUTSU, right?. Totally different martial art from actual Brazilian JIU Jitsu. Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo, sent to Brazil a group of his students, around the year 1915, led by Mitsuo Maeda. At arount 1924, the Gracie family (founders of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) started practicing Judo with Maeda. A few years later they founded BJJ and decided to challenge practitioners of all other martial arts. One famous fight here in Brazil between Helio Grace (BJJ) and Kimura (Judo) ended with Kimura winning (1951). Many people confuse the ju jutsu arts with jiu jitsu, as if Judo was created from Jiu Jitsu when in fact the current jiu jitsu was developed and adapted from Judo/Ju jutsu, which adapted from traditional Ju Jutsu.
@hardcaliber19
@hardcaliber19 8 ай бұрын
​@GuilhermeIzquierdo Ju, Jiu, Jitsu, Jutsu are just different romanizations of the same kanji, and do not hold different meanings. How we choose to romanize them does not change their meaning, nor does any particular version represent a particular style or era. This is a western misconception.
@thedopesickshow
@thedopesickshow 2 жыл бұрын
In 5 years the two major injuries I’ve seen both have come from tani otoshi. One time it was a 140 pound 5’5 70 year old brown belt (yes, 70, but actually really good) blew out a 230 pound 5’10 man’s knee.
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand Жыл бұрын
Being overweight and less flexible is a huge risk to your knees doing judo.. Especially when overweight people come in who do not have an athletic background. recipe for disaster.. you have to start easy
@bigmo931
@bigmo931 2 жыл бұрын
I like the summary in the end where you show all 5 throws you mentioned throughout the video.
@rickfinsta2951
@rickfinsta2951 2 жыл бұрын
Shintaro with all due respect (and that is a lot) that first throw was Harai Makikomi. Soto Makikomi you push both your hips through (think of an over-turned O-Goshi position) and then wrap them around you as you drop, you don't reap with the leg, and you don't drop onto Uke, you end up next to hime on the mat. I do this throw off the grip when my opponent reaches deep with their Tsurite for my lapel and they shorten the turn for me by over extending their arm. It is a very easy fall if done correctly. You also end up in an excellent position for ne waza since this technique is unlikely to score Ippon. The Kodokan has videos up demonstrating what I describe here, and my understanding comes from the original Kodokan illustrations and text.
@johnsnider2956
@johnsnider2956 2 жыл бұрын
Na man, it's Soto makikomi. The leg is reaping.
@rickfinsta2951
@rickfinsta2951 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsnider2956 Please go watch the Kodokan waza demonstration, or consult the original Kodokan text, and you will see that you are incorrect. Even the names indicate that he is demonstrating Harai, not Soto, Makikomi. Harai literally means "hip sweep." He is demonstrating a hip sweeping winding throw, or Harai Makikomi. Soto Makikomi has no sweeping or reaping action of the leg.
@Whiskydanger
@Whiskydanger 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares?
@homesteaderhandbook9475
@homesteaderhandbook9475 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whiskydanger students and teachers, who both benefit from techniques being rightly named.
@markdecarabas2927
@markdecarabas2927 2 жыл бұрын
Rick, you are absolutely correct. The first throw is Hari Makikomi, not Soto Makikomi.
@mfp5585
@mfp5585 2 жыл бұрын
I do number 1-4 all the time without a single injury in >25 years of judo. The two most serious injuries I have received were both from uchi mata (severe concussion with memory loss and broken elbow), both times in competition when somebody did it to me.
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 2 жыл бұрын
In my first ten years or so of judo I loved sutemi wazas, throws like tani otoshi and uki waza really only ever worked for me if I had the timing just right. And I always found that if my opponents mass wasn't off their center line the throw would fail, and I would end up in a sucker position for ne waza. Awesome stuff keep the great content coming.
@maofas
@maofas 2 жыл бұрын
Uki waza sure, but, personally, I think tani otoshi is the lowest skill throw in all of Judo. Sure, you have to be an opportunist and attack when they are in postion for it, but it doesn't require any fine timing like a foot sweep. I have never been good at any sacrifice throws, except tani. I think the move is only dangerous when people attempt to do it regardless of position, and wind up trying to brute force twist and drag the person down.
@larryzach7880
@larryzach7880 2 жыл бұрын
@@maofas yeah it can lend itself to slop, but so do numerous variations of makikomi, particularly when performed by big fat guys.
@jimbopetrella
@jimbopetrella 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this video was so informative and very extremely well explained down to the last finest most minor detail. It literally gave me a new perspective on grappling as an art
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand 2 жыл бұрын
I was taught to get my hip behind the opponents leg and drop/sit down in the tani otoshi like you show for this exact reason, so even if the angle is bad, the risk is less severe because you're not pulling/throwing him, you're falling with him. Its a very good throw used by beginners because it's a good counter when you're fighting newbies like me
@juiy222
@juiy222 2 жыл бұрын
I think Tani-otoshi is the most dangerous one on this list, seen so many injuries to the knee from this, including snapped PCLs, ACLs, spiral fractures etc. Suprised to see the Georgian Sumi-Gaeshi on there, I would have expected the Georgian Obi-Tori-Gaeshi/Khabarelli given it has a huge risk of dumping uke on their head.
@kennethrogers1129
@kennethrogers1129 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of this as dangerous, I always did it with no contact …? Dropping to uki’s rear and torquing him down and back using my leg just to block his step, shintaro shows it with a lot of upper body pull,I had relied mostly on body weight , sacrifice using my body weight, live and learn!
@syn3rgyz
@syn3rgyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethrogers1129 if you're using your leg to block then it's dangerous. there's a good reason many dojos ban this throw. It's the most common way knee injuries happen in Judo.
@donoconnor4204
@donoconnor4204 6 ай бұрын
Great video and brilliant delivery with great knowledge and understanding the risk factors. This would be certainly the dojo I would train from if not in the Uk.
@Pinnucle
@Pinnucle 2 жыл бұрын
Yagura Nage is a beautiful technique! Great video!!
@cliffordterry2133
@cliffordterry2133 Жыл бұрын
A very important video for those who do not know these throws but are thinking to learn to add to their repertoire.
@raphaelhudson
@raphaelhudson 2 жыл бұрын
You hit a few of my serious judo injuries on the head here. IMO for the non elite judoka soto makikomi is definitely the worst, especially when performed by big guys. The whole lock the shoulder and just fall over thing is a recipe for disaster, but not just for the reason you said, I had my shoulder separate this way because a tori who was twice my weight under rotated so my locked shoulder hit the ground first with his weight on top. I have never personally seen an injury from what I think of as Tani-otoshi, but I have seen a lot of serious knee injuries from bigger guys doing yoko gake basically in the way you suggested is dangerous to the knee, the reason the gake is worse is that tori can fix the knee/leg in place more than in a true tani otoshi where the action should be more an otoshi and less of a gake (in theory). At the elite level it seems to me that sode is the most dangerous objectively (although ura nage and some version of drop seoi often seem to drop uke on their head). I am sure there are more injuries form sode than reverse seoi nage.
@skyless7304
@skyless7304 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Sensei. You are strong 💪💪! I haven't seen these techniques in competitions yet.
@semisikaufusi2467
@semisikaufusi2467 2 жыл бұрын
First 3 have been our “core” techniques before any tourney my sons competed…and Sotomaki, the Valleydrop, Sumikaeshi…and last time I’ve seen how devastating this when your head is crushed to the floor…and whiplash from Tani if done right…thank you Sensei for going over this important points to educate the public
@marketnoise420
@marketnoise420 2 жыл бұрын
The first one is one of my favourite throws in sambo. Really nice video!
@latetodagame1892
@latetodagame1892 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us the subtleties of these dangerous throws.
@weirdgamers7708
@weirdgamers7708 Жыл бұрын
Last year in summer camp we had zantaraia as headcoach and he did teach the yagura nage and i had even little randori with him
@sway71
@sway71 2 жыл бұрын
For tani otoshi they don't even need to move the foot. Sometimes they just turn the foot so the trail leg can move around and that can happen in a fraction of a second, turning the knee without moving it. I'm a bigger fan of starting the tani otoshi but not dropping (sans "otoshi") so you're basically just checking the leg. If they don't lift the foot they'll still fall, and it opens their stance to a lot of other techniques. That being said, most people in competition aren't going to go for that when they have a high chance of scoring if they just drop.
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand Жыл бұрын
The way my sensei taught it, like in this, where you just grab him, and sit down behind him blocking his opposite leg with your foot, with 0 contact with his other knee (the side you drop on) I doubt will ever result in a knee injury... but injuries happen when people just want to score the ippon
@andrews1621
@andrews1621 Жыл бұрын
For Tani - When I do it I am a big strong guy I swoop in and basically lift them up as I scoop my arms around them and turn them towards me. I try to get them upright and extended as they are turning into me which halts their momentum and up on their toes. It seems like if I am able to do it that way I would take the pressure off the knee and reduce risk. It fits me because I have a 6'4" wingspan on 5'11" height so I can get around them really well, and I am a former strongman competitor and even though I am not as strong as I was it basically mimics the extension portion of the clean for an atlas stone or sandbag.
@derekv4552
@derekv4552 2 жыл бұрын
One of the first times ever using ura nage, I botched the throw angle and had about 200lbs of meat landing squarely on my chest. So, it can be dangerous for a bad tori as well
@kimmyedd4950
@kimmyedd4950 2 жыл бұрын
4:24 I actually learned this in wrestling, but it was done after a single leg attempt. You would still hold on the the opponent’s leg which would prevent this from happening.
@hodgsoncatalin3243
@hodgsoncatalin3243 Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration with good points in this video. I believe Hane Makikomi is also dangerous too, the way of Tori's landing on Uke's body... tori's full arm and big part of his shoulder is right on Uke's chest and sometimes may rich the side of the head during the landing! Depends how Tori is experienced with this throw. Oss.
@hodgsoncatalin3243
@hodgsoncatalin3243 Жыл бұрын
Also, I want to add the Uchi - mata - makikomi as a dangerous technique.
@franzelberg8630
@franzelberg8630 Жыл бұрын
Translationen please in german
@richardschatz9992
@richardschatz9992 2 жыл бұрын
Yagura nage is found in most belt wrestling and grip wrestling styles around the world; everywhere from Iceland and Switzerland to Georgia and Mongolia.
@Andrzej795
@Andrzej795 2 жыл бұрын
Im suprised that Sumi Gaeshi is on the list. It was one of the first throws I learned and I never felt that it was dangerous at all. On the contrary - I considered it to be the safest throw becouse your oponent just rolls forward gently and everyone can do that.
@kanucks9
@kanucks9 2 жыл бұрын
It's the Georgian grip that introduces the spiking risk
@diynevala
@diynevala 9 ай бұрын
Sumi gaeshi may even work on newaza, as a way to turn your opponent on top of you to down on his back.
@LeccareNewHandle
@LeccareNewHandle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tips. I try to remember them when the need comes.
@chase.7780
@chase.7780 8 ай бұрын
I actually used to use a move I came up with that was really similar to the tani otoshi in high school wrestling for mat returns when my opponent was trying to stand up & escape from bottom position on the ground. I’d lock my hands around the waist, lay my leg across the back of the shins, sit down and back onto my butt then scramble on top of my opponent. It worked perfectly in collegiate wrestling (probably even better than in judo) because wrestlers will squat down and lean back when standing up to escape. You can also push & move forward on your opponent with your hands around his waist & then pull back into the otoshi to get him even more off balance.
@jasonadams1632
@jasonadams1632 2 жыл бұрын
I was teaching Tani otoshi to my brother being thrown by it. I saw that he was pointing his knee upward, meaning that I would land on his knee. I threw myself outward to save his knee. Uninjured despite the poor landing. In Jujutsu we taught Tani Otoshi as more of a drop versus the contact with the thigh, like a rear Uki Waza. The Yagura Nage looked kind of like an inside thigh Hane Goshi, really cool variation.
@Matman_03
@Matman_03 2 жыл бұрын
i thought it was Hane Goshi too
@Matman_03
@Matman_03 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, leg work is completely different.
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand Жыл бұрын
My sensei has always taught us the tani-otoshi as a drop.. You grab him closely and sit down behind him, blocking his opposing leg.. and you ONLY drop and you do not block or lock his knee at all..
@jasonadams1632
@jasonadams1632 Жыл бұрын
@Apollinaris yes that is the correct method. He got it after I explained it again and demonstrated it solo, didn't have someone else to demonstrate.
@tdff4476
@tdff4476 2 жыл бұрын
What would be an alternative for tani otoshi or throws from the back that are safer?
@WreckingKrew00
@WreckingKrew00 Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen your videos in awhile. They're all very good videos very well detailed 👍.
@fauzannrifai
@fauzannrifai 2 жыл бұрын
4:02 Yapp, that side shoot got my friend's leg broken really bad by his brother
@optimusmaximus9646
@optimusmaximus9646 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, guys - well done! It's great to see these technques are still alive even though they aren't included in the curriculum of most judo schools these days.
@senseiruthe
@senseiruthe 2 жыл бұрын
As one of my BJJ professors is also a judo black belt, definitely had Tani Otoshi on my blue belt test for jiu jitsu and ura-nage on my purple belt test. But saying that, it was taught and practiced in a very control environment. I definitely see how those can be dangerous in a competition aspect due to not knowing what the opponent will do to prevent the throw. A competitor can be very proficient at the throw and it only takes their opponent to be set themselves up just a bit differently than expected to destroy a ligament or cause head damage. Was curious what your opinion is on using tani otoshi in a self-defense situation. Obviously, we don't want to cause unnecessary damage but, in the end, it is a self-defense situation.
@kennethrogers1129
@kennethrogers1129 2 жыл бұрын
Liking yagura! Could be a good self defense vs bear hug?
@Thekovaluu89
@Thekovaluu89 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its been 15 years when i was last practicing Judo and now seeing most of my favorite techniques being illegal feels bad. I can understand they wanted to make Judo more Olympic sport and minimize accidents but gotta admit competitions look way more boring than back in the days.
@nigelcooke6391
@nigelcooke6391 10 ай бұрын
Judo has been an Olympic sport since 1964,I was competing in the 1970s and 1980s when leg grabs were allowed, dislocated my knee in 1984,tore the cartilage off the bone,finished me competing
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 2 жыл бұрын
They're not only legal, their mastery is in fact required to attain your black belt, at least in Holland they are.
@MartialCoachJF
@MartialCoachJF Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, great video on those dangerous but legal nages🙏🙇‍♂️🥋
@ohara-mari
@ohara-mari 7 ай бұрын
I have been practicing judo for four months, and a month ago I suffered a fall on my right elbow. Fortunately, my hand was not broken. It took three weeks to heal, but The effects of shock and fear were still there, to the point that my performance decreased greatly, and I became very afraid for myself due to harm. Out of fear, I fell on my own hand again. This frustrates me a lot . I hope you can give me some advice that might help me get rid of this fear❤ ❤
@thegentlemanjay
@thegentlemanjay 6 ай бұрын
How many times as a child did you fall off your bike or trip over and fall on the ground, remember what you did? You just got up and carried.
@thegentlemanjay
@thegentlemanjay 6 ай бұрын
How many times as a child did you fall off your bike or trip over and fall on the ground, remember what you did? You just got up and carried on.
@ernestrodgers789
@ernestrodgers789 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious. We did all of these except Yagura Nage last night in the dojo. Glad no one was hurt 😮
@kellymontgomery1293
@kellymontgomery1293 Жыл бұрын
i love this! is there any example in the cage of a striker attempting to counter these throws?
@thetorontoscrambler
@thetorontoscrambler 2 жыл бұрын
Drop Seoi nage was always a bit of a problem throw where I trained growing up. Too many ppl landing on their heads…or face planting in some cases!
@83457
@83457 2 жыл бұрын
my bjj instructor received a neck injury from move 2 during a judo tournament. His body went numb and transported to hospital. As far as I know he fully recovered. I didn't see the move but my understanding is he was tired and let his posture suffer. He got bent over after going for something, then his vastly more experienced opponent spiked him, sounded like intentionally.
@alecempire1499
@alecempire1499 2 жыл бұрын
for me its not sumi gaeshi ( like kawaisshi shows) its obitori gaeshi
@patrickmcenery5812
@patrickmcenery5812 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a technique from a frontal grab one hand on each side of the chest. Step through, crossing arms and hip bumping opponent off the floor with pile driving down onto the head and neck. I learned it as a child and can't remember the name of it? Please help
@charlesgrace6729
@charlesgrace6729 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video, huge fan of the Yagura Nage. How about a "5 Most Dangerous Illegel Judo Attacks"? I'd personally be interested to hear your opinions on what were (maybe never were) throws part of the general Judo curriculum that were banned due to their danger. I think one for sure is the scissor sweep and other leg attacks that put your opponent/partners knees in jeopardy, but I'm more interested in high profile throws. Doable?
@SeanWinters
@SeanWinters 6 ай бұрын
The first throw is incorrectly labeled, it is labeled osoto makkikomi, when, just as spoken, it's soto.
@navinthiyambarawatte5121
@navinthiyambarawatte5121 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you show the throws at the start without the names.
@markl3431
@markl3431 Жыл бұрын
Is there a safe version of Tani Otoshi like a reverse Uki Waza? I do this all the time wirhout putting pressure on anyones knee cos I'm behind them and have never come close to hurting anyone
@robinenman6812
@robinenman6812 2 жыл бұрын
I think we should forget about the “this is dangerous”. Now, I will agree a lot should be age appropriate. Osotogari has ended more judokas participation than any other (I would bet).
@lilosnitch3247
@lilosnitch3247 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what u think of yoko wakare shiai version
@niscent_
@niscent_ 2 жыл бұрын
i just remembered that i actually injured my shoulder twice doing judo. not on any of those techniques, not on one of the illegal techniques, but just getting thrown with a simple ippon seoi nage. bad height ratio between me and my partner, the exact bad speed dynamic when he pulled the throw, landed straight on the shoulder and couldn't roll because of wrong momentum, impact caused AC sprain...
@MackTrainingAcademy
@MackTrainingAcademy Жыл бұрын
a couple of these are very effective. When it comes to training you want to be safe with your partners but judo is a MARTIAL art correct?
@Terminatortx33
@Terminatortx33 2 жыл бұрын
Ura-Nage the way you do it in the Nage-no-kata i find the most dangerous. When uke commits facing forward. I think o-soto is deadly throw too against someone who doesnt know judo and how to breakfall.
@richardgodivala4680
@richardgodivala4680 2 жыл бұрын
All of the judo throws are supposed to be potentially dangerous - that's the point of them. Judo was designed to be a martial art first, and a sport second.
@Terminatortx33
@Terminatortx33 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardgodivala4680 Title says 5 most dangerous judo throws. There are throws more lethal than others - let's stick to the title and topic at hand.
@mikcarrillo3527
@mikcarrillo3527 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation 👍
@Quidoute
@Quidoute Жыл бұрын
I rememeber we were practicing tani otoshi, my partner, did it the wrong way, when he was falling, I was feeling my knee about to break, but luckly I acted quickly to prevent the injury
@donotgettmeseriously
@donotgettmeseriously Жыл бұрын
What would be nice, is if he talked about. How to receive these throws, whit minimal risk.
@ryansmith9138
@ryansmith9138 2 жыл бұрын
Just come back from my MRI scan and 100% torn ACL from Tani otoshi just how it happened in this video....
@jagerwolf09
@jagerwolf09 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the first move Harai makikomi?
@FelipeSantosBa
@FelipeSantosBa 2 жыл бұрын
@Buddy Guy I'm not sure if there is such a thing like Hiza-Guruma Makikomi, since in a Hiza-Guruma there is no body twist and no Makikomi, hence.... Maybe you were thinking about O-Guruma? (Still weird in thinking on a O-Guruma Makikomi)
@FelipeSantosBa
@FelipeSantosBa 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Osoto-Makikomi, at least according to Kodokan starts with an Osoto-Gari. But also, you can attack forward (Osoto-Gari normal direction) or you can turn. That's when and Osoto-Makikomi will be like the way Sensei Higashi showed. So, maybe there is an small controversy here. :)
@jagerwolf09
@jagerwolf09 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelipeSantosBa yeah, I think you're right. I guess depending on a certain view point traditional (kodokan) or modified (variation) can be interpreted different, how it can also be executed differently. But i rarely practice makikomi or wrap around throws, since i usually see bigger /heavier guys use that technique since it's to their advantage.
@liamcage7208
@liamcage7208 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that 1s move was called Makikmi Hari. I thought Makikmi Osoto threw to Uki's rear.
@MrBaladaum
@MrBaladaum Жыл бұрын
feels like in 5 years he'll go "well... all moves are now illegal cuz ya know... judo/jiujitsu are fkn dangerous" lol
@TinaML
@TinaML 9 ай бұрын
I trained from the age 5 till 18 and competed all the time, both national and international. I used Tani Otoshi all the time. The one technique that got me injured was ippon seoi nage...... dislocated elbow and shoulder blus broke my elbow. Ura Nage no scare me 😅.
@user-rm5md2do6d
@user-rm5md2do6d 10 ай бұрын
Is ok to overlap the belt in the back like that?
@Ariel7877
@Ariel7877 Жыл бұрын
Great Classes Sensei! OSS
@lacknerflorian7254
@lacknerflorian7254 Жыл бұрын
Im not trained in Judo ,.. y totally ,. very interesting , my sensei also says , no one is allowed to get hurt ,. (and he works security too) ty , for share ,. wish an nice day greets , pls stay well 🐞💐
@niscent_
@niscent_ 2 жыл бұрын
i've never done sumi gaeshi with the position you showed, usually, i reach above the elbow of my partner on the same side as my arm to grab the belt, then i just let him try to stand up and lock himself tighter in the grip, his head end up face against my torso or even just beside mine. in the end i don't even throw my partner, but just make a clean roll with him using my height, sumi gaeshi is definitely the least violent technique i ever used.
@HopeCartels
@HopeCartels 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and Subscribed !
@hanrick7133
@hanrick7133 Жыл бұрын
Do those techniques work on taller guys. If someone is 5.6. Can he use those techniques? Someone like 5.10 or 6 ft?
@TheTuneAce
@TheTuneAce 2 жыл бұрын
In my limited experience, most people don't attack with tani otoshi. It's usually a counter to an attempted for failed takedown. Less danger to the knee because at that point, uke's hips are typically in front on tori's hips
@Drikkerbadevand
@Drikkerbadevand Жыл бұрын
I am only orange belt and I've only seen it used like that in competition too.. People are usually good at watching out for each other too though, but there are sometimes the assholes who will gladly destroy someone for a $5 medal.
@Charlie7829
@Charlie7829 Жыл бұрын
3:14 That's SO dangerous for the neck(as we could see in slow motion) you can go paralytic if your neck is broken.(vertical spine).
@markdecarabas2927
@markdecarabas2927 2 жыл бұрын
Shintaro, the first throw is Hari Makikomi, not Soto Makikomi. Also, please note that Soto Makikomi and O Soto Makikomi are different throws.
@JohnBowl14690
@JohnBowl14690 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a video on the Judo Chop. My judo practitioners think this is a fake strike. But the Atemi-Waza is real in the early Judo arts.
@lautshift_________
@lautshift_________ Жыл бұрын
Osoto gari und tai otoshi can be very dangerous too, if your opponent is breaking your knee in outwards direction instead of breaking your balance.
@Randor95
@Randor95 Жыл бұрын
So I'm very green in judo and there's no way I'd try any of these at my level but figuratively speaking if someone did one of these "Legal" throws and hurt their opponent does that make it a draw desqualificaion or anything or is it still and ippon assuming the throw was successful?
@acexae2411
@acexae2411 Жыл бұрын
Soooo what are the ways to counter all these dangerous throws if someone were to do this to u be it on the street or sparring
@bull9045
@bull9045 2 жыл бұрын
なぜ崩しのない、体を浴びせたり、極めて投げたりする技ばかり教える?
@mikekempf1456
@mikekempf1456 2 жыл бұрын
Osoto maki is like my dojo's bread and butter
@twinsunsurvivor8564
@twinsunsurvivor8564 2 жыл бұрын
Dear sensei Shintaro i want to mix your art with mine this is just mind blowing , more no gi please
@thomasminh8244
@thomasminh8244 2 жыл бұрын
can u plz make a video on throws that work well for tall people? im 14 years old, 64 kilos (141 lbs) and 6' 1" so i have a lot of short oponents. can you plz help?
@stefankloppers
@stefankloppers 4 ай бұрын
Many years ago. I used Ura-Nage to win third place in my country’s national competition.
@adrianplaza5373
@adrianplaza5373 10 ай бұрын
The first one is not Osoto makikomi but Harai makikomi
@Kookko94
@Kookko94 2 жыл бұрын
4:28 that's how my knee got fucked up
@bwkid1
@bwkid1 Жыл бұрын
Im off training just now, due to a dislocation of my knee due to a bad throw by my partner. Hopefully il be back very soon.
@knw-seeker6836
@knw-seeker6836 2 жыл бұрын
Shows that Judo is still an effective martial art
@WayneManifesto
@WayneManifesto 2 жыл бұрын
Tell Fuji to make some grappling shorts that are made out of gi trouser material in the usual gi colours
@zachariahtaylor7811
@zachariahtaylor7811 2 жыл бұрын
And the IJJF is why Sambo continues to become more popular
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 Жыл бұрын
Great, like wrestling, bit rooted in chi?
@loneguy-alex
@loneguy-alex 2 жыл бұрын
Hi can you help me?. I was a white belt student from philippines, can you tell me how am i gonna throw my opponent?. The problem is about his weight.technically hes not fat though. The thing is about throwing him at heavy weight. Hope you read this comment.
@juandenz2008
@juandenz2008 2 жыл бұрын
Keep practicing you are only a white belt. As you get better you will learn how to break the opponent's balance and when the right time to attack is. Also you need to learn how to chain techniques together.
@laars8015
@laars8015 10 ай бұрын
I learned all these throws in Sambo years ago so much fun
@olivierdelatouche9453
@olivierdelatouche9453 Жыл бұрын
I practiced judo in france for 11 years, my specials were taiotoshi with a stranglement (wrists crossed, palms facing me), arai goshi followed by a heavy ongeza gatame, soto makikomi, iza guruma, and i loved tani otoshi and a yoko guruma for defense.
@jackiechansgsg9836
@jackiechansgsg9836 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the last throw with no gi?
@stuartpaul9211
@stuartpaul9211 2 жыл бұрын
you can see how this was for fighting in armour.
@jibsjibs7797
@jibsjibs7797 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos !
@irfangumuscuoglu7561
@irfangumuscuoglu7561 Жыл бұрын
How do you prepare for them?
@connorvandijk9430
@connorvandijk9430 2 жыл бұрын
These are all my favourite throws, I feel so sorry for all my randori partners.
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