Shimano Di2 Upgrade Project: Giant TCR Road Bike Dura-Ace Di2 Conversion

[@rein2523]

Switching an old bike to di2 feels like new bike day

[@ridesofjapan]

Job done! Almost as satisfying as doing it myself! That dinky little cassette really shows that you are the man but the guns! 🦵🦾😉

[@Alby_VA]

We need another Rides of Japan bike build with Di2. 😁👍

[@ridesofjapan]

Alby Va new bikes are expensive ;)

[@Alby_VA]

@@ridesofjapan You should tell OPEN that you are KZbin star and your 50,000 followers could make them rich $$$. Otherwise, pitch to all the other bike companies out there. And lastly, if they all so no, you could pull a GPLlama and refurbish a used bike. :-)

[@ridesofjapan]

Alby Va haha, I don’t want to work directly with any brand... (well, apart from shimano ✊) I can’t stand the thought of being locked in to one brand ... what if something nicer comes out and I’m stuck in a contract 😱 But, there will be another di2 build though, as soon as the new DA comes out I’ll be on it like flies on crap!

[@Alby_VA]

@@ridesofjapan Awesome.. I can't wait. I love watching your builds. It helped me with my build of a Custom Titanium Di2 build. I did everything from the ground up, once my frame was spec'd out and shipped to me. :-)

[@garytilley3217]

Nice frame Shane. I had the same unfortunately it developed a crack near the bottom bracket. A big shout out to Giant Australia who replaced the frame at no cost. And DeGrandi Cycle & Sport for their assistance

[@mantelles]

Hi Shane, WOW very impressed, you made the whole project look very easy. Nice job filming the install, I picked up several useful tips as I'm planning the same upgrade for my TCR. Thanks for posting and sharing this. Be well...

[@gplama]

Excellent! That's exactly why I make videos like this. The first thing you need is that Park Took BT-2 'Fourth Hand'. It's pure magic.

[@mantelles]

@@gplama Hi Shane, AND that Park Tool magnet is probably the most necessary tool for this project. What tool did you use for the bottom bracket removal?

[@gplama]

@e 511 keV This type of bearing (cup) punch: amzn.to/31bEcIE

[@mantelles]

@@gplama THANK YOU ! ! !

[@JimHaysom]

Looks like an operating theatre. Top work!

[@melbman43]

You make that job seem so easy. your TCR is a few years old now but they are still fantastic bikes, nothing wrong with it at all.

[@guzz95]

Came out great! Walk in the park for 🦙!!!!

[@jacksmale7036]

Planning this myself with a 2016 BMC - much more confident now, cheers mate

[@gplama]

Sweet. It's not too hard. The Shimano manuals are all online and VERY thorougher.

[@pauldamian2988]

Wait???? Did you get a workstand!!!! WoooHoooo! Same one I have. I know in the past I used to always complain when you would be working on the floor. Cheers!

[@arjunadhia7608]

Thanks for the amazing tutorial Shane! I love watching your videos and especially this particular one that I used as a guide to upgrade my mechanical to Di2 without running into any issues!

[@shanew634]

Great video, once you sell the Dura ace parts, you’ll be able to fund your new mk2 battery, wu-111 wireless module and bar end junction box. Upgrades never stop, lol.👍

[@gplama]

Exactly my plan! :)

[@MrLuigi-oi7gm]

That is the cleanest garage door I have ever seen in my life!

[@chuggsinator]

Wow...how much coffee did you have? You are the fastest mechanic I have ever seen :). Beauty of an upgrade. Such a clean appearance. Lovin’ it.

[@hatzsc4618]

Just wanted to say what an AWESOME video this was. Thank you for sharing. amazing!! di2 here i come!

[@sjmclean0]

Nice build. I've started using those brake pads. Superb even in the wet.

[@xxfeverxx]

Great video, to the point and organized to perfection

[@mikeellis4345]

Looks very easy ! Great result !

[@stuartcampbell5150]

When you have a kid and find that wet wipes are useful for many things!

[@cyclingmilan]

exactly, I have done my shoes, helmet and bike all with just one wipe from the baby. You just have to do the clean things first and gradually move on to the dirtier parts. (I run wax on my chain so no chain cleaning)

[@Mrich775]

I'm doing something similar, my new tcr is getting my r6800 di2 and the donor bike is going mech for the winter!

[@yvesn58]

Expert mechanic, Shane !

[@JWKEL88]

Wow this is one skills I wish to learnt. So amazing how one can do so much on his bike! Mesmerizing

[@rowanRobaggs]

I ditched the junction box strap around the stem for double sided tape. I can now live with a junction box under the stem, for now.

[@jimhansen5395]

YAY! Good to see the Boeshield getting some rep. I love that stuff. =)

[@philjono2462]

Great video Shane, project I’m going to take on with my TT bike. Feeling more confident now. Will need to buy more tools though.

[@gplama]

More tools is always the answer! :)

[@davidpancerz5820]

Greatly interested in this upgrade as I was considering doing the same to my Roubaix Pro Dura Ace bike. Sadly it's over 15 years old (still rides like a 911 Twin Turbo save the sloppy gear changes) so there's no access to run cables or attach the front mech. I threw in the towel and ordered a new 2021 Roubaix Pro SRAM Force eTap AXS. The lack of wires and 12 speed won me over although time will tell if it's worth the cost. Just looked at the new Quarq PM I'll need as well. Ouch. Love all these step by step tutorials Shane, I've learned so much valuable info. My best to you, Von, and Max.

[@BetterShifting]

Nice vid, once again. One thing.. just in case you haven't: the dealer manuals say you should set up the front derailleur support bolt and backup plate (even if you're using a clamp band. It's worth checking.. but at the same time.. if it works, it works ;-))

[@johnnyklat]

As always perfect and good explanations during the whole video. Shane you are the best in making look easy 👍🏻

[@gplama]

Cheers! Everything looks easy at 300% speed up and editing :)

[@thedownunderverse]

Watching you stuff that glob of wires into the BB is going to give me OCD nightmares 😬🙈👻

[@lukesmith6443]

Looks Great

[@pauldamian2988]

nooooooooooo!! Not more tools... now I gotta buy them! oye vie! At least I don't have any bikes with interior cables so I don't need Lama's "favorite"...

[@snoochpounder]

disappointed not to see the bunnings homemade bike rack

[@TriStruggleBus]

Nice!!! 👍

[@NeutralGenericUser]

Such an awesome upgrade. I want to do this to my bike too, a Giant Fastroad Advanced 1 with Shimano 105. I need pretty much exactly the same parts as you, but I'm worried about removing my Bottom Bracket since it's Press Fit, and obviously I'd have to source the mountain bike equivalent Di2 shifters since I have flat handlebars.

[@smitbar11]

awesome!

[@wullychavanel6332]

Very very nice!

[@rasmuswi]

That third hand thing looks a lot like those super expensive things that are supposed to make attaching, tightening, and cutting of zipties super easy. Maybe that's a hidden ability of the tool? Also, why get another derailleur hanger when you can just get a DA9100 rear derailleur. 😁

[@IanB17]

Good job, Di2 looks the business but with the upgrade kit £800+ here in the UK it will have to wait. 2nd hand market is an option but I’m not sure I want to put a 2nd hand groupset on a nearly new bike.

[@apsbentom]

Nice build, a black n white camo lizardskin tape would have made it perfect 👍🏽

[@abedfo88]

I can imagine my swear jar would be full to the brim after such surgery!

[@peermancolin]

ha ha. Same here. Just built up a S-Works Tarmac with Di2. a) it took way longer than that b) a lot of 'industrial language' was used :)

[@leslie7922]

I don't know why but I really really love my 2013 Giant TCR. I got the red one, but only Ultegra 6800 10sp. I hope one day someone will sell me a cheap Di2 system !

[@bikepacking330]

Good

[@tjmarino9473]

Throw me those you removed. Lol! Nice vid enjoyed it

[@davidlmills1]

Shane, will Von be doing a review of her new Specialized Tarmac anytime soon. Thanks. Dave Mills

[@gplama]

I hope so! It's on the cards. We just need to cram it in when little llama is sleeping :)

[@petermorris3060]

I feel like Shane's second bike even doesn't need brakes, or a rear wheel

[@pauldamian2988]

My second bike doesn't have brakes or a rear wheel ... hasn't seen the "road" since 1995! Lives on my trainer in the living room. Though, it has been updated a bunch. A few years ago, new Ultegra cranks and Dura Ace BB... then new 105 STI including both derailleurs...

[@TheRealityTwister]

Need some input... this is my first bike with Di2. If I have In manual or semi-sync mode and in gear 34 (front) the rear will only go down to a 15 (gear 9). It will not go to gear 10 or 11?

[@marcbryant8482]

Excellent vid Lama, the sped up build is great and really appreciate the parts list mate.

[@rahmatberlianwidyaswara5705]

Shane can I ask your opinion as today shimano goes to 12spd di2 even on a 105 level, if I upgrade my old 2013 TCR adv SL with 9070 di2 is still worthed nowadays? Just asking for second opinion. I'm not an super cyclist who rode 40 kph up on thr peloton or always purchase the latest products on the market as I still ride my old 2011 TCX with 5700 brifter mixed with Zee rd and it's still bomb proof. Thank you Shane.

[@Palanza27]

Hi Shane, what grommet did you use for the rear derailleur exit point? I can't seem to find one that looks similar to what you've used.

[@PnlBtr]

Black Bar tape looks way better.

[@gplama]

100% I don't know what I was thinking with that blue tape! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

[@jirkacapek]

Shane, what kind of "battery holder" (fixing battery in the position of seatpost) have you used, please?

[@M9IN0G]

"Executive Producer: Rides of Japan"?

[@jamesrichards2176]

Very disappointed that there was no heat shrink used with the di2 and rear brake cable. :(

[@gplama]

"This isn't even its final form!" ;) I'll do the finishing touches when I source a cheap bar-end junction A to hide that front end mess.

[@BrentonCollas]

@@gplama I can't believe people out up with that fugly junction box and stem band. Bar end junction is so clean. Look forward to seeing the next bit of with to get that done.

[@bikingchupei2447]

thank god you removed that green thingy.

[@TLa08]

Where did you get that derailler hanger Shane, would love a direct mount hanger for my bike?

[@celebratenewmanium]

I ride the same frame. Do you mind sharing what type of derailleur hanger you have installed?

[@TheBlablubb1989]

Nice one Shane! Have you had chance to use the new smaller Shimano remote shifters? I think the look pretty neat in the few picture I could find, but there’s actually not much information about them anywhere...

[@gplama]

The SW-R9150? I haven't seen them for a price I'd pay to check them out.... yet. :)

[@TheBlablubb1989]

Shane Miller - GPLama “yet” is exactly what I was hoping to read ;)

[@adrienlimsowtin6662]

Looks like it was easy enough, only hard part was filming it 🤣

[@gplama]

Things take five times longer when I have to film things. You don't want to see the out-takes on this one.... ;)

[@markstone722]

@@gplama I think we all do, maybe as a Christmas special.

[@boyuanfang6597]

What is the name of the hanger? Any difference from the original hanger?

[@davemaynard3826]

When upgrading or buying di2. Do you get the grommets included. I’m now dreaming of electric shifting

[@gplama]

I picked them up for a few $ at the local bike shop.

[@1clnsdime1]

What did u want to use the other derailure hanger for?

[@fastk9dad]

How old was your TCR frame when you upgraded? I'm considering upgrading my 5 year old CAAD10 from Ultegra 6800 mech to 8050 Di2. The frame is Di2 compatible and I don't like the look of the external mechanical gear cables.

[@gplama]

2013

[@fastk9dad]

@@gplamaWow, never would have guess, it looks much newer. But thank you, that makes me feel better about my decision to move forward

[@draaronreynolds]

Hi Shane. How long are the Di2 cables from each of the shifters to the 3-port junction box? I use 40 cm wide bars (hoods centre to centre).

[@gplama]

I can't recall. I measured the distances with string first before ordering the specific lengths.

[@yarbrough462]

Great video! I am looking for an Ultegra DI2 upgrade kit now for my bike. This will help on the install for sure. Any reason you didn't go with the bar end junction box?

[@gplama]

I installed what came with the pre-owned Di2 groupset. I'll do a few updates at a later time.

[@khalIlIsml]

Hi, nice video as always sir. I wanna ask, what about upgrading from 105 r7020? Can it work with existing disc brake or not?

[@gplama]

No idea sorry, I’m not familiar with the 105 7020 group.

[@jacksonlim811]

Hi, any idea whether ultegra di2 upgrade tool can convert an ultegra rim brake version to di2 with disc brake?

[@gplama]

Rim to Disc is requires almost everything new.

[@louisetan8071]

Hi, i got the 2012 Giant TCR Advanced SL 1 What are the best upgrades should i do to my bike? Thanks

[@gplama]

I'm not across the specifics of that bike. I'd drop into a local bike shop and have a chat to them about what they think would be best.

[@jimpeyton1459]

Thanks as always....I anticipate a lot of cursing if I attempt this. I would like to retrofit my Specialized Roubaix if I can find a Di2 for a reasonable price. Do you have a real time version of these steps available? What is that "satellite button" you have installed? What is it controlling, the head unit? I'll search your videos, but maybe you can point me in the right direction.

[@gplama]

No real-time video of all this being put together. I'll need a better camera person for that... and a lot more time. A combination of Park Tool, GCN, and Rides of Japan will get you on the right track. RE: The satellite shifter. Here's my video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6a9aWmAoq51ZpI Garmin head unit control with the wireless module: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foWpfGp5ast2gbc

[@jakemitchell3029]

It upsets me that you didn't heat shrink the cables together

[@gplama]

Soon..... That's a whole other video I can do and get more milage out of this with! ;)

[@MrBJPitt]

@@gplama tell me about it. I've already done some soldering for a non di2 bike, got the etube wires encased in my old jagwire links for the RD wire running through what used to be where the FD cable runs through. Still working out a battery solution given I can't access the seatpost. Thinking of a few options for internal battery. The other bike whilst also non di2, does have access to the seat post. Soldering the wires isn't an issue for me, so can be inventive.

[@martynstokes9289]

Hi bit of the subject I recently purchased a tarmac sl6 expert disc udi2, My problem is, the DI2 system seems to have a fault with it, I change the gear mode to mode-1 this was ok for a few weeks, then went into semi synchro mode-2, where the rear derailleur moves up to second gear all time, no matter what gear its in on the front drive, I’ve checked it with the L.E.D. Lights that confirm its in mode-1 full manual, semi synchro works and full synchro works fine, I’ve confirmed all this with the LEDs with the gear shifters and the junction box button. am I missing something doing something wrong? thanks for all your help Martyn

[@gplama]

I'm not quite sure what you're describing. I'd check all the firmware versions and make sure things are up to date.

[@martynstokes9289]

@@gplama firmwareall up to date, all that's going on is i put the Di2 into full manual mode-1 but the rear derailleur , when i put it into first gear when moving it go's into second gear on its own, no matter what gear i'm in on the front

[@gplama]

Indexing out? Hard to diagnose over the Internet.

[@martynstokes9289]

@@gplama Sorry done that lol its ok i'll sort it somehow and thanks for your help :)

[@martynstokes9289]

@@gplama Sorted low screw works like a dream thanks for the help

[@benhaywood2510]

Hi Shane. Can I ask why you were looking to replace the stock hanger?

[@gplama]

The original is well old now. It still works... but a new one won’t hurt.

[@roilev]

Looking all of these cable mess makes me appreciate AXS even better.

[@OnnoMolenkamp]

That's a common response, but really, how often do you install a new groupset on your bike? Because that's the only time you have to deal with the cables. (while charging the AXS batteries is something you keep on doing 😉)

[@nielst.3891]

Did we miss the D-fly unit for wireless connection to Garmin/Wahoo computer?

[@gplama]

It’s coming. I need a newer battery to support that device on this build.

[@yvesn58]

The way Shimano settles automated (synchronized) shifting, it makes a bad chain line when going on the large plate, instead of going down gear at the back. Did you note that ?

[@gplama]

It's customisable with the E-Tube config. And a bad chainline depends on what gear you're in on the back to start with.

[@yvesn58]

@@gplama Yes, customizable but within certain limits in the software. Can't figure out how Shimano engineer happened to choose such bad chain line. I got back to semi-synchronized shifting to turn around the problem.

[@jspaceman71]

Is that a Feedback Sports stand? How you liking that thing?

[@gplama]

Yep. It's brilliant. Strong enough to hold the bike for my 20kg weight testing of power meters too!

[@tomaustin5981]

whats the work stand you use in this Shane? looks sick

[@gplama]

Feedback Sports Sprint Bike Repair Stand: amzn.to/3iXeOfB

[@craigsharp4093]

Shane what sadle do you run on that bike?

[@gplama]

Specialized Power 143mm

[@JonCannings]

Hi Shane. Who made that rear derailleur hanger?

[@gplama]

Sigeyi (who I can't pronounce properly).

[@JonCannings]

@@gplama cheers fella

[@stretch177]

Hi if you go onto bettershifting.com on there it tells you how to program the hidden buttons on the top of the hoods and that enables you to use them to change gear and you could loose the other climbers switches I’ve never been a fan of those

[@gplama]

I also have videos on here covering this.

[@BetterShifting]

Some of the pages even link to Shane's videos! :)

[@Alby_VA]

Why didn't you go with a Internal Junction Box? Although I think I know why... You need to either drill holes in the handle bar or buy a new one with holes. 🤪👍

[@gplama]

It’s what came with the groupset. I’ll upgrade soon and do my own drill holes in the drops.

[@b2theb]

Hi, whats the shelf. Life for di2? Im just buying a bike with di2 9070.

[@gplama]

It doesn’t expire, so it’ll work just as well as it always has.

[@b2theb]

@@gplama Thanks. One more thing...what battery are you running?

[@jamesswart6466]

I'm interested in that derailleur hanger do they make them for different bikes and where can I buy one

[@gplama]

The Sigeyi website had them.

[@jamesswart6466]

@@gplama awesome thank you I see that they only make direct mount derailleur hangers unfortunately 😢 maybe I will have to upgrade

[@michaelsteele5495]

Any plans to add ceramic bearings and oversized pulleys?

[@gplama]

Not unless I find them cheap.

[@michaelsteele5495]

@@gplama cheap and ceramic bearings/pulleys should never be used in the same sentence... ever. I guess that Zwift challenge was useless in the end from a marketing standpoint

[@frasermckenzie3624]

Is it possible to install the 4 way JB with BB still in place?

[@gplama]

It depends on the frame and access to the wires, I guess.

[@frasermckenzie3624]

@@gplama Giant TCR Pro 2021

[@MrJonnyb120]

What was the true elapsed time for the install?

[@gplama]

You'll be able to pause the video and check my watch to really tell. It was a few hours (in between bath time , snacks, and naps for little llama).

[@vk2him]

Interesting lube choice .. Adam from ZeroFriction would be cringing as his test show muc-off to be one of the worse performers?

[@gplama]

I respect his work, but there’s perfection and there’s what I had on the shelf. This is the latter.

[@vk2him]

@@gplama Fair enough, but this comment from his review is a bit of a concern? "I don’t want to be sounding too harsh here, but I am confident I could go into my pantry and grab a bottle of olive oil and achieve a better test result. "

[@gplama]

@@vk2him He's the expert here. I'm not in a position to disagree.

[@maquinaentertainment3068]

How much would Di2 cost$$$$ before labor??

[@gplama]

This group set was purchased pre-owned and I did this work myself. All up a lot cheaper than retail and having a bike shop install it.

[@JacobMRider]

Any updates on those Hunt wheels?

[@gplama]

They're still on the bike and rolling well.

[@yaggio9419]

What is the price for this upgrade?

[@gplama]

It depends on what you can find it for. This was pre-owned and under AU$1700

[@Tchairdjian]

BOOO for using the external Junction A. Haha. And No WU111?

[@gplama]

Give me time. They’re coming: :)

[@BearLeonhart]

did he just swap places on the brake lever ?

[@gplama]

Left rear, right front. Same as the UK (I believe)... and opposite to everywhere else. :)

[@timbob.]

Did not know that it was a country specific thing. When I was a kid my dad built me a bike out of a catalog and got them back to front, my friends told me to “do a skid” and showed me which brake to pull, I then promptly superman’ed over the bars. Thanks Dad!

[@captainhaddock8543]

@@gplama Yes this is the UK configuration. I've had some shocks in the past when hiring bikes on the continent!!

[@PeteBoyd478]

@@gplama Right front is also useful if you ride motorcycles! ;-)

[@BearLeonhart]

@@gplama that's very informative because it's the opposite from where i'm from. kudos to that

[@jdodd1258]

you gonna sell that dura-ace mechanical.....?

[@gplama]

Yep. I'll put it up online soon.

[@jdodd1258]

@@gplama I"ll buy it, what's your price?

[@gplama]

I haven't looked at the going rates yet.

[@jdodd1258]

@@gplama easy, would be very keen.

[@JarrodOsborn]

@@gplama keen on the shifters if you sell separately

[@chuiwyjustin]

sram axs is much better not having to deal with any cables.

[@gplama]

If I switched to AXS for Lama Lab Testing the cassettes and XDR drivers I'd need would cost more than this Di2 upgrade. I'm all for the SRAM AXS tech..... not so keen on the price tag(s).

[@MrCfredrickson]

Wish I had the $$$$ for di2

[@gplama]

There are bargains to be had on preowned Di2 components.

[@JarrodOsborn]

@@gplama lol, I haven't seen any. What you have ranges from $1500 - $1700 aud

[@pdrmnds]

Is it possible to run the sattelite shifter AND sprinter shifters in the drops?

[@gplama]

Yep. With the calliper levers there's another port on each lever should take sprint switches.

[@noellim2062]

I need help.

[@gplama]

We’re here for you bro! 👊🏼😀

[@paulnify3547]

Cant even afford that frame :(

[@industryrule-4080]

How many outtakes are there of you cursing out loud because you put something on the wrong way or in the wrong order? 🤣

[@gplama]

Many! 🤣

[@andrewbarrie5303]

I don't think you'd like SRAM Red etap, its not complicated enough!

[@gplama]

💸

[@michaelhammond4150]

Why would you do that? Just sell the TCR and buy a bike with DI2 on it

[@gplama]

I already have a TCR with Di2 on it. That's a disc setup with thru-axle and a different bottom bracket. Given the number of cranks/power meters/trainers I get through the Lama Lab I've chosen to keep this rim brake (QR) bike as a 2nd option for testing.

[@kenshinnakamura1185]

can i have your old stuff?