Shimano Poison Adrena, Shimano Expride B, & Shimano Zodias Spinning Rods compared & contrasted

The Shimano Jackall Poison Adrena, Expride B, and Zodias Spinning Rods compared and contrasted
I hope this video helps any person who wonders which of these top of the line Shimano rods to purchase. The characteristics of these rods have moderate overlap in composition and performance. Each rod also has unique performance characteristics that would encourage a person to purchase any one or combination of the rods. So which one should you purchase? The definite answer is in the video.
#PoisonAdrena #expride #zodias #shimano

[@djmyers99]

Thank you for making this review. I was scouring the Internet for exactly this. You sealed the deal for me I’ll be getting a zodias in medium heavy. I appreciate your channel and all your hard work, God bless.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

You are welcome! I’m glad to have helped in your final rod selection. Let me know how you do it when you take it out on your first trip. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@cimicsector1]

Thank you for this outstanding video!!!!!! This is exactly what I was looking for!!! I bought the Zodias because of this video, paired with a Shimano Stradic FL. Can’t say thank you enough Sir!!! Keep the great intel coming!! Retired Army Guy

[@familybudgetfisherman]

You are welcome and Thank You Very Much for supporting the channel. I hop to keep your support with every video. I am actually going to do an update to this video sometime in March 2023. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@ChristopherJaimangal]

Perfect video! Great breakdown and comparison! Thank you.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

You are welcome! Also Thank you for watching the video and your comment! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@ronmb81]

You're right there isn't a video like this comparison. This gives me a better perspective, keep up the great content, cheers from Oz

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You So Very Much for watching the video and for the comment. I am glad that I was able to help in your decision making. The yellow brick Road was very helpful, LOL. Cheers! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@randyprice1831]

Enjoyed very much! Thanks for posting!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you so very much for watching and thank you for your kind words.👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@johnmccarthy7931]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for watching! I love your grind through the videos! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@jarrodcork9044]

I own a few exprides and absolutely love them. I just bought the M/L for Bfs fishing and can’t wait to test it out.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

They are fantastic rods. I have appreciated them more since I have owned one. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@llewellynenglish5934]

I'm from Pittsburgh ( Aliquippa pa) keep up the good work my brother!!

[@phillymanpete]

I just found your channel. Excellent review and insight on the three shimano rods. I just purchased the Zodias 6'9" MH to pair with my Vanford 2500. Not a cheap combo but excited to use it for finesse applications. All the best on growing your channel. You have a new subscriber right here!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for your kind words and support of the channel! I hope you are having an amazing time with that Zodias/Vanford combo. If you catch your new PB with it, please let me know. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@alexandermattisson6995]

Love you chill man. Keep on with great videos ✌✌😁

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You So Very Much! I truly appreciate you chillin' with me. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@anonymouse2888]

I have no idea how your channel was recommended to me but I'm so glad that it was! Clear, concise and right to the heart of the matter. I was waffling on the Zodias as I have an Expride casting rod paired with a Curado 71HG. It's great, but I felt that it was just too stiff for finesse (at least for the way I finesse fish). I decided to go with another spinning setup for my next purchase and the Zodias was in my sights. With your explanation I am no longer hesitant and will go pick one up tomorrow. Now the only question is.. do I stick with my Sahara 1000 reel or go for the Vanford 2000? First world problems, I know. By the way, thank you and SUBBED.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Sorry for the late reply. Thank You for such kind words! I try to give the best information in the most efficient verbal manner as I am capable of doing. I hope you have chosen the Vanford. With some planning and patience you can get a Vanford for as little as $120. Find the Sahara another job, lol. I appreciate your sub and I look forward to many discussions you and I will have regarding this passion we share. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@favoritontoilet3811]

This was very helpful, all the best from germany.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for watching all the way from Germany! I’m glad to know the info was helpful. 👏🏿👏🏿💫🪄

[@twiggsherman3641]

How do you find the sensitivity difference between the Zodias and Expride? I picked up a 7' Heavy Expride A casting on sale when the B's came out. It's by far my most sensitive rod. I've had St Croix Victories, Legend Tournament Basses, Megabass Levantes, and with the Expride there's no mistaking when its a rock and a fish. First few times I got a bite with it I was amazed at how clearly it transmitted vibrations. Not that the others are bad at it, but it was just super clear. I was always curious how the Zodias stacked up.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for watching the video and for your question. I believe the Zodias 2020 is more sensitive than the Expride B. I definitely agree that once you hold an Expride (A or B) you will notice a sensitivity difference over other rods in its price category. For example the Expride B is more sensitive than the Daiwa Tatula Elite. That said, since I fish the Poison Adrena, Expride B, and Zodias simultaneously and I notice the ever so slight differences in each rod’s performance. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@nigelveney5352]

Great video as usual!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@MrUCL]

Malik congratulations on the new house may you have many years of happiness in you're new home. I have just purchased NRX+ 822s spinning when I tried it in the pool it is the one I would pick. But I am waiting on a Poison Adrenal 6'10 m casting. I fish for spots on my lake in Cal. I have watched many of your videos and appreciate your opinion. I hope to go fishing for the first time in a month to try out my new rods. I also splurged and purchased a Daiwa Steez AGS spinning rod (7'6"MML) for my finesse (Free rig/ Dropshot) rod and that is a bad mofo. You need to try one of those. I like my Tatula spinning, I had Tatula Elite AGS, now a Steez. I ordered a Rebellion MH casting to see if the Rebellion line of rods are like. I really like Shimano, and Daiwa Rods . Thanks again

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for such kind words. I have ordered the Steez as well. I ordered both the St. Croix legend Xtreme and the Daiwa Steez. I should be talking about them both on the channel sometime in October. What is your PB on both rods so far?

[@MrUCL]

@@familybudgetfisherman Malik, l haven't been able to get out fishing in August. Sunday I think I'm going to walk the bank. Looking forward to taking my Tatula/Vanford set up with a speed worm on a free rig. I just purchased a Daiwa Rebellion MH rod construction looks beautiful aluminum lock nut spiral wrap, feels very light weight. The tip feel very soft and goes down into the blank very fast . To me it feel like a MMH not a MH. For a rod at $200 price point it's comparable to a MB Levante or a Zodous. I see hardly any reviews on the Rebellion series of Rod. I pair my Rebellion with a Curado 150 this is a great feeling setup you can palm the reel. Once again you're work is appreciated and #outwork yesterday.

[@kyoutdoors131]

Great Content! I've been running the old and new Zodias with a Stradic CI4+ and a Vanford 2000 for quite some time now. It's a great combo. I just bought an Jackall Poison Adrena, pairing it with a Vanford 2500 for an upgrade! Can't wait to try it out! By the way, are those Fins braided line the 40G or are those the WindTamer? And how well does the braided line operate?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for watching the video. For obvious reasons, I admire your arsenal 😄. I use the FINS 40G because it is the thinnest diameter line on the market. I regularly throw the 2/15 (2 pound test diameter / 15 pound break strength). I have been using FINS40G for the last 5 years. I set aside my power pro slick 8 indefinitely! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣 😂

[@kyoutdoors131]

@@familybudgetfisherman nice! Yeah I've always used power pro. I will definitely give fins a try. I heard very great reviews on them. Thanks again and tight lines!

[@arge676]

I love your reviews! Is there a way possible to review the spinning rod ugly stik carbon? USCBSP702M/30CBO

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I will review the Ugly Stik carbon sometime in April. Stay tuned. Thank You for watching. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@joecalcagni9615]

What do you think about the carbon drag washers in the Vanford 3000? I find them to stick and slip a ton under low drag settings (for trout, bass, freshwater, etc.). I replaced mine with the old felt washers we got in the Stradic Ci4+ and it is buttery smooth and consistent again! I use a Ci4+ 3000 on a 7' medium Expride and I use a Vanford 3000 on a 6'8" medium light Zodias (the 2-piece model from the JDM). Both are GREAT rigs; Ci4+ and Expride for reaction baits, Vanford and Zodias for finesse :)

[@familybudgetfisherman]

The stickiness of those washers on low is a nag for me as well. I didn't think of changing the carbon washers to felt washers. Thanks for the solution! Most of the time, my drag is set pretty high and the carbon washers ar not a problem. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@whateutube]

Thanks for making making this video. How’s the zodias vs the phenix m1 ?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

The Shimano Zodias and the Phenix M1 are two completely different rods. They almost never compete with one another and almost always complement one another. The Zodias has a more limber (moderate) action and the M1 is a more fast (stiffer) rod. When handling the same baits the Zodias is better with slower moving baits, such as tubes, and the M1 is better with faster moving baits such as underspins. They are both very similar in sensitivity and casting distance (reels and line being the same). Consequently, there’s almost no difference between the two rods with bottom contact baits, such as Ned rigs, except in setting the hook. I hope this helps. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@davidrauschenbach6871]

Thanks for the comparisons! Wish the poison adrena was available in more lengths and actions. Do you have a preference on the rod handles? So glad to hear your almost moved in. Congrats again to your family and you on your new home!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much for your kind remarks. I definitely agree that the poison Adrena needs a more diverse rod model selection. Among the three rods, My preference for rod handles is in this order, Zodias, Adrena, Expride. Thanks again for watching the video. 👏🏿👏🏿🙏🏿

[@maxcole3930]

Zmans popping frogz is & has been my main go to frog for past 2 years now. It can be fished like a weightless texas rig. It comes through & over vegetation with ease, you can speed it up & legs have a good kicking action. The elastech floats with 3/0 ewg hook & throw it on a med-heavy spinning rod with 14lb mono. From spring through fall the rod only has that bait on it! Those poison adrena rods I bet are amazing but that's way above my budget. I've been extremely happy with zodias & Expride B's.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I am imagining some beautiful catches with those Zman frogs. Also, you have an incredible rod arsenal with that Zodias and Expride B. I don’t think you need a Poison Adrena. However, if I get a fantastic deal on them, I will give you a heads up. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@maxcole3930]

Yeah their little out of my budget! The zodias & Expride B's have been amazing! The sensetivy is on totally different level what I was used to, before I got any of those I was using ugly sticks. I can't knock the ugly sticks because I used them forever & those things just don't break. But thier sensitivity isn't comparable. If you did get a great deal on Poison A's I would be interested then. I sure do appreciate it & your rod vids really pushed me to trying nicer rods. I'm glad I did

[@brandonb6327]

Do you think this comparison would be the same for the casting rods, specifically the zodiac vs the expride b. Great video!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for your kind comment and question. Yes indeed. As you might already know, rod blanks are universal. That is a rod blank can result in being a spinning or casting rod. Consequently, when comparing the casting rods, you should sense the same corresponding actions with those similar action rods. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@philipfalco7304]

Great Video Family Man! I'm looking at the Zodias 6'9" Med. for my Vanford 2000, I would like to use it for throwing Rapala's to small 6" Texas rigged worms. Do you think the Med./ML or the MH would be the best choice? I'll be using 6-8LB test . Thank's

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for watching the video and for your comment and question. The medium would be the best choice; especially with that 2000 size real. The medium heavy will be too stiff for your finesse applications, and the medium light would not be enough backbone. You’ll have the most flexibility with that medium power Zodias. Let me know how you do on your first day out on the water with it. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@philipfalco7304]

@@familybudgetfisherman Thank's for your help. I'll be ordering the Med.

[@eddiefalch127]

Excellent video. Which would you recommend for jigging Mackinaw/Lake trout?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you so very much for your comments and for watching. I would recommend the Shimano Expride B medium heavy. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@maxcole3930]

Definitely helpful reviews! Im a kayak angler, mostly largmouth, but I'll target striper & crappie at times when I wanna do something different or come across them. I have a spinning 6'9" medium zodias that I enjoy very much. I also have 6' 10" casting Expride B med-heavy. I just ordered a 7' light spinning Expride B. Everyone says the expride B's action is a little higher so if you want a med light get a light, if you want a medium get a med-light. I've only had higher end rods for about year n half. After using them, there's no going back. The sensetivy is so much better, I absolutely catch more fish because I can feel more bites & difference in bottom features.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for such kind words. I like your technique for choosing an Expride B. You are correct on the use of high end rods. However I've noticed a plateau in that sensitivity once you get north of the Poison Adrena price point. I cannot feel the $225 more in sensitivity in my NRX+ than my Poison Adrena. That Expride B is one of the best high-end workhorse rods on the market. Many times I have just taken that on rod with me. However If I want to concentrate on finesse in the $200-400 rod range, it is hard to beat my Zodias. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@maxcole3930]

@@familybudgetfisherman I goty 7' light Expride B spinning rod in, paired it with a 2500 vanford & 7lb floro. Took it out today, I was able to cast very small 1/16 - 1/8 oz swimbaits & neds a long distances. Which is what I was hoping for. My 6'9" med zodias I can't cast anything lighter than 1/4 but I have 10lb floro on it also. At this point I don't see myself spending more than what an Expride B costs. I've only bought 2 & when tackle warehouse had sales so I got them at same prices as the zodias line. Very happy with all of them!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Oh yeah, you got that Zodias set up a little heavy, but it is prepared for some bigger baits. I love how patient and savvy shopper you are! I am so glad to read of your fantastic results. An Expride B at Zodias prices is an awesome achievement. I am sure that your wallet is real proud of you as well, lol! Congrats 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@maxcole3930]

@@familybudgetfisherman I know tackle warehouse does these 15-25% off sales 2 or 3 times a year. I just wait till next sale for whatever I'm looking for . It's worth the wait & by then I know absolutely for sure what I'm wanting

[@maxcole3930]

I fish alot weightless texas rigs, or wacky, neko's or light weighted texas rigs 1/8oz weights on the zodias 6'9" medium. The 10lb floro my be little heavy on line but I can still cast a mile. I probably could drop down to 8lb. It does very well keeping fish pegged once I set the hook.

[@craigholland2274]

I like Shimano rods a lot, but on reels I like daiwa a little better. Great video. I bought a zodius for drop shots and senko fishing because of your video.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I am humbled to know that my presentation was part of your decision to make the Zodias purchase. I hope you are having alot of fun with it. Daiwa has an incredible selection of reels. I have a good number of them as well. My favorite is the Tatula LT (both the previous and current models). I am saving up to buy an Exist. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@spinningrodfisherman]

nice comparison. i also own all 3 but in 7' M, and expride b 7L(this excels in finesse out of all the rods for sure you should try it) and also another new expride b in 7MH+ 2pc which is heavier power slightly. i agree i would pick the adrena as the all around, at first it felt so different than my other rods how it transmits vibrations, but after getting use to it, its a very nice rod, i can feel more vibrations than the expride but not by a huge margin. expride is growing on me more because of the comfort of the handle. i find the adrena the lock nut i don't like it in that position as i hold it towards the front much more. next set of rods you need to test are daiwa steez compile x :D theres a very special 7'6 one i like so far. keep up the good reviews!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Fantastic comment. My Steez should be here in a couple of weeks, lol! What are your thoughts on the Zodias? 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@spinningrodfisherman]

@@familybudgetfisherman i like the zodias as well, i use it quite alot when i just need to bring one rod to fish with the kids. i can do finesse with it as well as some lighter power fishing, plenty of power to bring in bass and pike. but comfort wise it still goes to other handle forms. its sensitive enough to feel the bottom with a shakey head or small jig. But having some gloomis rods as well, those definately transmit the vibrations differently and more intensely

[@spinningrodfisherman]

actually i did end up getting the 5 piece zodias this year. and thats the medium rod that is always in my car along with another daiwa ultralight.

[@fisch1139]

Well done review

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You So Very Much! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@walteroquinn757]

What rod. Would you use for throwing soft plastic for salt water speckle trout 1//4 oz 10lbs braid

[@familybudgetfisherman]

From among the three rods listed in the video, I would choose the Poison Adrena. If I am wanting to save money, but get a great quality rod from among the three, I would choose the Zodias. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@valentinloghin4004]

Many thanks for the information !! Did you had a chance to put your hands on a Kistler Z Bones rod ?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I have not so far. I have been sensitized to Kistler rods generally because of the pro staff commercial offerings that have been circulating around the internet. Also They have some amazing sales for the Z Bones model. Do you have good experience with them? 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@valentinloghin4004]

@@familybudgetfishermannot yet on Z Bones but one of my friends has an KLX model 7 years old I fished with it and I was impresed , at 7 foots medium heavy action the weight was 3.5 oz for the rod.On youtube fish_foot was doing a review on z bones , he consider them very high close to NRX .

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I just watched Fish foot's (@TheSisavath) video on that klx vs the NRX. His review is very good and very convincing. I may have to redirect some of my fishing funds to KLX soon. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@valentinloghin4004]

@@familybudgetfisherman I will redirect them to a nice z bone

[@lanlef2031]

Hello i am thinking to buy SHIMANO 21 Zodias Spin., 2 parts, spinning fishing rod 2,49m/ 4,5g -21g. Is the tip of the solid or tubular?i want to use surface lures from 11 until 18 grams...will be ok?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

The tip is tubular. However given the specs you shared with me, the Zodias medium Heavy is rated to throw up to 21gram sized lures. So you should be ok. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@redzuanhashim1193]

My dream rods❤

[@xbusta]

Sometimes you need to let a bait soak for a while. I love that!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Glad to know that you enjoyed the content! 😂👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@HustleHabit]

lol, same

[@longpointfishmaster947]

nice video, but one thing i notice there's many comparison videos of expride vs zodias. 90% of the time they vote the expride as the winner for sensitivity and for finesse and drop shots/plastics/bottom contact etc.. there's even a comment on this video that says the same thing. i just got a few exprides as well, haven't had a chance to try it with bottom contact finesse fishing yet.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for your comment. I agree that there are comparison videos on this platform of the Expride and the Zodias. However I am not aware of a comparison of the Adrena, Expride B, and the Zodias 2020. As a matter of fact most of the Expride/Zodias comparisons are of the previous models. The upgrades have completely changed the game. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@davidhidalgo5662]

Your right there isnt any where that talks about the three compared to each other. I just wish you would be a little bit more specific when it comes to saying Zodias is best for finese? Like is it more sensitive, is it balanced better, Wht is it exactly that makes it better. I know the Exprides are very senitive and balanced WAY better than most every rod I ave ever picked up. Good stuff Thank you

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You Very Much for watching the video. I will be producing an update to that video in March 2023 so I can include that info. I may even include how they all compare to the NRX+. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@garydennis5178]

Are there any more sensitive rods for fineness than the Zodias? I'm trying to make a decision on what rod to update to. When you spend that money you want to make a good decision.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Great question. Generally, as the price of the rod goes beyond $200 the sensitivity of those rods increase dramatically. So assume sensitivity is to your liking once you consider rods over the $200 pricepoint. So to answer your question, The Daiwa Tatula Elite is more sensitive than the Zodias. Where the Zodias excels is being a more complete package for finesse fishing. The rod's responsiveness, the casting distance, as well as the sensitivity make the Zodias a more premiere higher end rod for finesse fishing. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@garydennis5178]

Thank you! Have a Merry Christmas!

[@rockndirt5002]

Adrena always the top 1, just love it!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Well said in just a few words! Thanks for watching the video. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@raymondjohnson6496]

Have you fish with Dobyns like the DX series how can you compare them rods to any shimano rods I am thinking about buying them

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I have never fished with the DX series. Dobyns has a tendency to build all of its spinning rods based on its bait cast models, and the results are beautiful rods, but very heavy higher end rods. So I have avoided them. That said if I find a deal on one within the next 45 days or so, I have marked on my agenda to make that purchase. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@raymondjohnson6496]

I stuck on expride rods or Dobyns rods the DX

[@familybudgetfisherman]

With that choice in mind, Go for the Expride B! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@johnthacker7007]

What would you recommend for drop shot? 1/4-3/8 ounce

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Happy New Year! I pray for peace, safety, and opportunity for you and your family. The 7 foot medium Shimano Zodias spinning rod paired with the Shimano Vandford is the best drop shot rod in my arsenal. It has enough power to drive that hook into a fish’s mouth and the most controlled flexibility keep that fish pinned until I land it. My budget friendly option would be either the medium powered St Croix Bass X or the Dobyns Fury paired with the Daiwa Legalis LT. Just a note, you might already know this, but it’s worth mentioning that whenever we get into technique, specific rods and reels, they are always going to be a little bit higher than the more versatile combos. Tight lines. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@doomk2020]

So the expride B will be my first rod will you say that’s a good all around rod ???

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Yes. Medium or medium heavy. Congrats on your purchase! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@akiracornell]

I think that all those blanks are supposed to have probably the same sensitivity the biggest difference with the zodias is you don't have cork on the handle so your hand is going to receive direct vibration a little bit more in your fingertips. that's just the theory or my guess why you picked it as the finesse sensitivity rod. I haven't really gone through what the guides are on all... I was listening to Gary Dobbins and he said that you could feel the difference when you add to torite guides to the XP line and turn it into an ecstasy. it has to be the dampening from the cork especially on the new x pride b reaching way in front of the real seat. is the other thing that people are thinking is the carbon fiber frames on the new AGS guides are more sensitive but at the cost of being more fragile.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Well said. I most definitely agree with your point, regarding the zodiac that the handle material allows for better sensitivity than the X pride in particular. Honestly, I don’t know how much more sensitivity that the guides would add to the rods. They are so sensitive that there may not even be enough difference because my hands have a limit as to how much sensitivity I could feel. You are correct, AGS guides are more sensitive than Torzite guides, but there are those complaints about the fragility of AGS guides by comparison. I have three rods (now four with the St. Croix legend, extreme) that have AGS guides and so far I have done well with them. I don’t have any cracks or compromises of any time after two years of use. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@leepao6302]

The Poison Adrena is consider a low-end in Shimano Poison Series, the Poison Ultima is the Highest-end in the Poison Series, but the Poison Ultima is only sell in Japan only

[@familybudgetfisherman]

If the Ultima is made available in the U.S. I could compare it to other rods. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@leepao6302]

@@familybudgetfisherman all Shimano is never made in America it sells in America

[@leepao6302]

@@familybudgetfisherman the only rods that is made in America is the G Loomis which Shimano owned them other then that anything that is lab as Shimano is made in Japan, Malaysia and China. Even the Curado reel is made in Malaysia

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I definitely understand both of your points. However, I don’t dabble in the international markets for fishing equipment, because the warranties are unenforceable in the United States. At least if I purchase a rod in the United States, from a manufacturer or retailer who is in the United States, I have some recourse. As great as those rods are in the international markets, warranty is a big deal to me. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@rich5916]

i just got the medium 610 expride A.... what all techniques do you think I can use it for? Trying to be as versatile as possible.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Your 3 best reaction bait techniques will be the crankbait and jerkbait (up to 10ft), bladed baits such as the chatterbait and the spinnerbait, and poppers and other top water baits up to 3 inches long. 3 great finesse techniques are the darter head, Ned rig, and paddle tail swimbaits up to 4 inches long. Now depending on the line you use you can adjust those techniques to your preference. Let me know how well you do when you fish with that new Expride. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@rich5916]

@@familybudgetfisherman awesome thanks for the help! Going to get my reel this weekend and hopefully going to get to fight some fish too. Cheers 🍻

[@jae-gw6tl]

I think u feel like that about the zodias because it's made with cheaper materials which makes it softer than the other two at the MH power . A medium or medium light power spinning rod would be better for finesse applications. The sensitivity on both the expride and the adrena is light years beyond the zodias . I think you'd hav a different opinion if u went with lighter powers. Medium heavy and heavy power rods for your power fishing applications like frogs and jigs etc. ..would be better on baitcasting rods. Can u not throw baitcasters or do u just not like them?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

It’s not the cheaper material (which I would dispute), it’s the performance in the same power category. There may be a difference in favor of the Expride over the Zodias with two medium light models (which I do not own), than the two medium heavy models I currently own. Maybe one day my family budget will give me an opportunity to make that comparison. I do own several baitcast combos. They are fantastic combos with which to fish. However I only use them for special applications such as throwing heavy swimbaits. My preference for spinning combos part personal and part practical. Spinning combos are widely used rod combination in Fishing. It can present the most wide selection of baits than any other fishing combo. They tend to have better drag systems, and are much easier to help introduce our passion novices interested in the sport. That said over the past 40 years I learn to be better with spinning combos than most people are with baitcast combos 🤣👏🏿🎣

[@jae-gw6tl]

@@familybudgetfisherman well the cheaper material isn't really debatable ...it's the biggest reason for the price difference in the rods. The lower grade carbon used to roll the blanks makes the zodias slower(more parabolic) and less sensitive than the Xpride and adrena. shimano wil tel u that themselves. I totally understand ..and respect your reasoning on the spinning vs baitcasters tho. One more question if u don't mind ...in your opinion ..which is more sensitive between the croix legend elite and the shimano adrena?? Thanks for all the great content ...best wishes on the upcoming season ..and Peace and Blessings to u and yours sir.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for the question...keep them coming. The Shimano Poison Adrena is slightly but noticeably more sensitive than the St. Croix Legend Elite. That said, Each rod has different duties, so they compliment each other very well. The Adrena is more universal and leaning toward reaction baits and the Legend Elite is more of a slower bait presenting rod. Thank You Very Much for your continued support! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@nyrusthomas8467]

How much are these Fishing rods

[@familybudgetfisherman]

$200 - $400 full retail 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@leepao6302]

That’s only in the America, but in Japan Shimano have more high-end rod

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I can only speak on the rods available to us in the U.S. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@Mephobia01]

Top of the line in shimano poison family is not adrena. Its ultima. Followed by glorious then adrena

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I only discuss what is available in U.S. markets and sold by U.S. retailers. Is the Ultima and the Glorious sold by a US retailer? 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@nazz_fishing]

u forgot glorious

[@familybudgetfisherman]

How clumsy of me to be so forgetful.🤣 Video update coming soon!😂 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@michaelkolbe5963]

Of course Shimano seems to know action per species better than anyone else

[@familybudgetfisherman]

😆😆😆 You said it best. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@QUEEROSEXUAL-GENDERMANCER]

If you use braid, they're all sensitive. Use fluoro, and there's a massive difference between the adrena/expride and the zodias. The Zodias has a really crappy blank compared to the other two.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for your comment. I agree they are all sensitive but there are different degrees of sensitivity depending on the equipment, your hand, and the element under which you are fishing. BTW, the blank for the new Expride and the new Zodias is the same. The blank diameter is wrapped tighter for the Expride and wider for the Zodias. Also the wrappings and guides are different. So while I see your point I have a different perspective. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣