Shimano Poison Adrena, Zodias 2020, Vanford Spinning Rod Combo Reviews

In this Video, I am introducing the new Family Budget Fisherman logo and animation, sharing some fishing videos, and giving an after fishing review of the 2020 Shimano Zodias 7ft Medium Heavy Spinning Rod and the Shimano Jackall Poison Adrena 6ft 11 inch Medium Heavy Spinning Rod; both paired with either a Shimano Vanford 3000XG or 4000XG. Included in the video is some topwater action with the Zodias and spinnerbait action with the Poison Adrena.
These rods, paired with those particular reels made for a fishing experience I have not had before. These rods are for those who enjoy fishing like those who enjoy classical music. The Combos are beautiful and rugged, delicate and strong, Highly responsive, and extremely sensitive.
The Poison Adrena, paired with the Vanford 3000, has a very impressive casting distance for a short rod. At 6’11 this rod competes casting distances by rods a foot longer. This rod is so sensitive that I found it easy to distinguish rocks, grass, sand and gravel, and wood.
The Zodias, paired with the Vanford 4000, also has a very impressive casting distance. This combo created a fish catching utopia that increased the fisherman’s ability to land fish.
I strongly recommend either combo to any person who can afford them
#Fishing #PoisonAdrena #Zodias

[@thelifeofasurfcaster9417]

another cool video! Glad to see you having fun fishing!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! You are correct, it has been very fun. There will be more on the water videos coming!

[@randyprice1831]

I really enjoy your videos and the way you explain things!!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You Very Much! I appreciate your kind words. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@arocosadventures724]

Great video! I finally added a Vanford 2500 with a Zodias rod and can’t wait for spring to arrive. Complement to my 2XCurado 151HG, Nasci 1000/4000. Than’s for the Poison tip need to check out that fellow now as well 🎣🇸🇪

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! You have an awesome arsenal to do some PB angling! You are welcome! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@henryschmidt636]

Just stumbled on your channel. Excellent content. You're a great teacher. Very enjoyable.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! I appreciate your kind words! Thanks for watching. 👏🏿

[@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797]

Love it! Just casually talking about rods and combos. Perfect for my 2 hour train trip to wake up and start enjoying my working day :-))

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Great to hear! Thank You Very Much! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@LONEWOLF_NATIVE]

Love your videos. Keep up doing what you do.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You Very Much! I sure will 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@bensonhon]

I just bought the vanford 3000 and in search of a rod, u helped me made my decision! Thx!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I am so excited to read of your purchase! Thank you for allowing me to be included in your decision making. Which rod did you choose? The Zodias for the Poison Adrena?

[@bassinbilliards6279]

Either a Zodias or expride and you'll be happy for yeeears.

[@Slickdragonslayer71]

Love my new zodius. Paired with the 2500 xg stradic. Now you got me thinking bout buying the poison and vanford

[@familybudgetfisherman]

That new Zodias is very impressive. My 3rd one is on its way to me in the mail. I also just purchased my 3rd Poison Adrena. DM me on Instagram or email me (both links are in the “about” section of this channel) and I can share with you how to save over $100 on the Adrena purchase.

[@ko0sa221]

Great video brother very informative I went out and bought the Zodias after this video

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Congrats on your Shimano Zodias Purchase! I am so glad to be part of your decision process! Thank you for watching the video. I hope your next PB will be on that rod!🎣👏🏿

[@XxRAVAG3]

You just made me buy this combo😅, can't wait to start using it!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I’m glad to be your inspiration!😂😂😂. I hope you have as much fun as I am having with it. When you catch your first fish with it please share your experience with me.

[@johnmccarthy7931]

Enjoyed the video. Thank you for posting

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You. Glad you enjoyed it. This is one of my most favored videos. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@arge676]

I fix computers and phones for a living and your explanation on apple products are on point! you just earned yourself a sub!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you so much for the sub and for watching the video. I try to make the complicated process of buying fishing tackle as common and relatable as possible. I look forward to hearing from you more in the future as well. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@terrenceportelli6849]

excellent talk about the two rods poison adrena and the zodias . both seem to be in the better than average range when combined with the vanford reel .thanks for the info.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

You are welcome. Also Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching the video and supporting the channel. I definitely agree with your assessment of the rods when paired with those Vanford Reels. Having said that the zodiacs in particular went through a pretty good improvement over the previous model (which was a pretty decent model itself). The Zodias upgrade to monocoque handle was a genius move by Shimano. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@user-qv7yd6ul7o]

New subscriber love your background and I understand everything you said and describe great videos.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for subbing! I appreciate your kind words. Thanks for watching. 👏🏿

[@q4life551]

I have a few of the stradic ci4 gen 2 that I am still using and it is still working flawlessly. I have tried a Revo and after 2 seasons of hard fishing, the Revo starts to break here and there. The stradic/vanford are the best build

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Agreed! The Stradic and the Vanford are superior reels, If you are fishing in places where those two reels I need it, then you have definitely surpassed the ability of Revo X. That said I still like the Revo X. I have caught a lot of quality fish with them.

[@jsmith6108]

Big bro, you are the best! You articulate everything so well. Thank you for your hard-work. How heavy of a fish do you think I could nab with a Poison Adrena 1610M rod?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you for your kind remarks and for your question. I am sure that you could bring in a fish as large as 10 or 15 pounds provided your reel has the kind of drag need to play the fish to exhaustion. As you may know rods don’t have to to bear the weight of fish. They are only part of the process of resisting the fish until a net can being used. Thanks again for your question👏🏿🎣

[@lucianochavez]

Great review! I could use your opinion. I have the 6' 7" Medium Light Poison Adrena which I mainly use for drop shot and ned rigs in small rivers. I would like to cast weightless 5" Senkos with it but I think it is asking a bit from it. Therefore I am looking at the 7' Medium Poison Adrena to be that more all around rod and wondering if you have tried it and would realistically work both for Senkos and ned rigs down to 1/10 oz? My ML Poison Adrena is paired with a Shimano Stradic FL 2500 and I've battled with bass up to 5.5lbs in close quarters so no issues there. If I get the 7' Medium Adrena I will likely pair it with a Shimano Vanford 3000 reel. Thanks!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You very much! The 7’ Medium will be better than the 6’7” medium Light in every finesse application for Bass, Crappie, Striped Bass, Salmon, and Trout. The only exception is if you are fishing from a kayak. The shorter length is more manageable in that water craft. Also the shorter rod is better for smaller panfish such as bluegill and perch. The longer 7’ medium will increase your casting range and give you better control of your baits, especially lighter and weightless baits. Paring that new Poison Adrena with the Vanford 3000 will make your Combo an apex predator on the water. 😂👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@lukeholman1295]

We need to get this guy on the Googan squad, 100% deserves to be there + the effort he puts in these vids, like dude, too awesome! Great vid!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! I really do appreciate the inspirational words!

[@lukeholman1295]

@@familybudgetfisherman absolutely no problem dude, you deserve it!

[@ryanh8709]

Comparing him to Googan is an insult to Family Budget Fisherman

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I appreciate all compliments. One of the many blessings from God is that you all Take the time to watch the content on this channel and appreciate the quality that I try to give. Thank you very much for your support👏🏿👏🏿🎣😂

[@lukeholman1295]

@@ryanh8709 you said it brotha

[@anderson8869]

Loving your content Mali! When using a leader in general how long of a leader do you prefer? Even if the braid to leader knot passes through guides without issue I prefer to tie a 3ft leader roughly keeping the connection knot outside of the top guide. Thanks!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! I’m glad to know that you like the content. For reaction baits (if I have to use a leader) it’s 18 inches. For finesse setups I use a 24 inch leader. Similar to you, I dislike the knot going through the guides. I have noticed that hungry and/or angry fish are not as line shy as we were taught to believe. So your and my shorter leaders are plenty.

[@anderson8869]

@@familybudgetfisherman hello again Mali, when you're crappie fishing especially with lighter gear are you using braid, fluorocarbon or monofilament? I've been using 4lb Stren Magnathin but thought about trying other options.....

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Hello! I use both as well. I use stren magnathin 8lb test on one rig and Fins 40G 2/15 braided line with a 24 inch Berkeley 100% fluorocarbon leader on another rig.

[@anderson8869]

@@familybudgetfisherman hello again Mali, it's so hard talking with folks who stick to spinning gear. I tried casting equipment again this past week but it just feels unnatural. If I had more time to really focus on learning casting gear I may find it useful but at this time in my life I just want to FISH!! When you're throwing moving baits like spinnerbaits or crankbaits are you using a lower gear ratio reel? My current Daiwa spinning reels are 6.2:1 and bring in roughly 37" of line for each crank. When I use moving baits it feels like these reels are struggling especially with spinnerbaits and I'm also probably bringing in the lures too fast. I found another Daiwa spinning reel that's 5.2:1, bringing in about 31" per crank...... long question, do you recommend this change? Is this a better fit?? Thanks so much and enjoy your evening!!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Happy Sunday! First of all remember this channel is dedicated to spinning gear. So at least you have this channel to rely upon. Secondly like you said “JUST FISH!” There is no need to have to learn a new way to fish or use different equipment. Now for the lures. I actually prefer the 6.2:1 gear ratio spinning reel which bring in at least 33 inches of line. I don’t have a problem with moving baits except if they are not tuned correctly. I suggest you use the 6.2:1 or higher gear ratio reel and just slow down whenever you think you should. The main reason is that bass specific reaction baits are designed based on the 6 to 1 gear ratio retrieve. Beginning next week you will see separate videos where I am just throwing bladed baits, crank baits, and punching. Stay tuned and keep the long questions coming!

[@cespaia]

Great , I like your narrative ! Just signed to your channel , greetings from 🇮🇹 IT 👍🏼

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Awesome! Thank you for subscribing and well to the channel! 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@serigalasport]

Awesome 👍

[@nigelveney5352]

Nice combo!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank You! I recomend anyone who can afford one to get one. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@anderson8869]

So after a few months of trying baitcasters again I'm sticking to spinning..... it just feels better. Looking to throw 3/8oz spinnerbaits and some hollow body frogs, narrowed it down to the Shimano Stradic FL or the Vanford.... would you oot for the metal construction of the Stradic FL or the lighter composite Vanford? I'm leaning towards a 3000 size so I get the paddle style handle.. thanks so much!!

[@ivanmahusay4080]

I have both and for those application that you mentioned id go with the stradic

[@familybudgetfisherman]

The Vanford is only $30-$40 more than the Stradic, but offers at least $100 improvement in performance. Congrats on being a Spinning Only Fisherman!!

[@user-jk2lu1ib1q]

I would like to see more videos of you fishing . All the best God bless

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I will be doing just that in the near future. In the meantime, I do have photos on my Instagram channel of the same name “@familybudgetfisherman“. Check it out if you get a chance.

[@robertabrams91]

Do the vanford have any flex in it? How heavy a fish can the 5000 handle before you know it is a composite reel. I have the FL 3000 but I want to go with a vanford 5000 for when I go out on the charter boats.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for your question. The 5000 can flex slightly when the pressure on the reel gets beyond 24lbs. That happens to be the max drag in the reel. That said, I have not experienced any flex with my reels so far since the max pressure I have place my reels under is about 19 lbs. You will have a marvelous time with it on charter boats. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@bassinbilliards6279]

I love both the old and new for different reasons. My favorite still being the 6'10" med light zodias with an slx mgl 71. So much fun on small swimbaits I open waters. I have 3 of each including expride and I did notice in spinning the rod is lighter but sometimes I like a little weight in the hand. It feels more balanced to me. The vanford, Stradic FL or stradic ci4+ are all great reels for either. The other day the 6'10" med monocoque with a small underspin smashed the bass in a local lake but I didn't need the extra sensitivity for that technique. I really like the new curado 2021 rods because they're a zodias at a cheaper cost so ill continue to buy those over other brands and continue to buy expride for my high end gear. Zodias just happens to be my everyday combos.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Well said. For some reason rod and reel manufacturers believe that rods and reels must be lighter in weight with every new model. Balance is just as important. You may not have need the extra sensitivity but i'm sure it was nice to have it. I am very interested in the new Shimano Curados. I think that model is great competition with other rods in that price point.

[@bassinbilliards6279]

@@familybudgetfisherman I want to put one on an Expride! I really like the 150 size for med hvy rods in general. Great choice when it comes out. Plus all the upgrades compared to a 200 it's lighter and has 2 more lbs of drag. Good stuff 👍

[@bassinbilliards6279]

@@familybudgetfisherman Sorry I was talking about the new 150 curado reel that just came out. The rods are going to be awesome 👌

[@familybudgetfisherman]

No problem!

[@anderson8869]

Happy new year! Do you use crankbaits and if so do you need to use a lower gear ratio spinning reel allowing for a slower retrieve? I love my Shimano Vanford & Stradic FL reels but they pickup between 35" - 40" of line per handle turn. Do I need to get something like a Daiwa picking up 30" of line per handle turn? Thanks so much.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Since this past October, I no longer use any of my Vanford combos for dedicated cranking. I like you, I noticed that it’s high speed retrieval is its weakness when it comes to cranking, unless I want to burn it. I try to slow my retrieval as much as I am able but if I need to go to a dedicated cranking combo, I use my Ugly Stik Elite with an old 5.2:1 Daiwa 2500 series reel. It’s a reliable combo for dedicated cranking. If I was buying a spinning reel for dedicated cranking, I would actually go with one of the Pflueger President models. Thanks for supporting the channel👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@anderson8869]

@@familybudgetfisherman thanks so much for your response!!

[@anderson8869]

@@familybudgetfisherman update!! I ordered a Kastking Megatron 3000 spinning reel this afternoon. It has a very low gear ratio and takes in roughly 22" of line per turn. I'm not usually a Kastking guy but when looking for a low gear ratio spinning reel the options are very limited.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I have been tempted to make a Kasking purchase as well. I am acquainted with a person who is a KastKing rep and he has shown me some impressive equipment. Keep in touch with me and let me know how you like your reel.

[@anderson8869]

@@familybudgetfisherman Update: So I compared the Kastking Megatron, Okuma Inspira and Pflueger President in similar sizes. I decided to go with the Pflueger President 35 on my heavy power and the 30 size on my medium power, both combos are for moving baits primarily. They retrieve about 28" & 25" of line per crank. Of the 3 brands/models the Pflueger President had the smoothest retrieve, heaviest bail wire and longest history with great reviews. This spring will be the test.

[@beard18276]

I just ordered the poison Adrena 6'11 med/heavy...THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEOS AND CHANNEL

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I understand. Most of these rods either gain our favor or shunned by us based on our style of fishing. I am glad you gave it a chance. How long of a cast are you wanting? I have routinely been able to cast 50 feet with both rods. Don't send the Rebellion back! Let me know how much you like it. In both purchases I hope you got a good deal on them. LOL Thanks for watching. 👏🏿

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! I wish you great success and a constant shattering of your Pb's with each outing. Thanks for watching. 👏🏿

[@beard18276]

@SilentDiablo I believe it is on the stiff side as well....I have not fished with it yet but should make a great carolina rig rod, casting jigs, any bottom contact application. 1/2 ounce or 3/8 with trailer will be the sweet spot. I also want the medium to cover all other bass lure applications (spinnerbaits, topwater etc.)

[@beard18276]

@SilentDiablo it will be good for reaction baits I am sure...thank you!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

That medium will be The perfect choice. 👏🏿

[@steve4321able]

I heard that the Zodias rods are not durable and tend to snap tips off and the handle can crush easily. Your thoughts on this?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I disagree. That said, rod tip breaks have more to do with human error than any manufacturing or technology problems with the rod. I own 4 of the previous model and 2 of the current model. I have owned Zodias rods since January of 2018. I have no problems with tip breaks. Thanks for the question. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797]

Shimano Vanquish is also a great reel for both combo’s. DID you try the 7”6 poison? My absolute favorite!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I am not aware that Shimano made a 7'6" Poison Adrena. I am aware that they made a 7 foot even model. Is it JDM? Please educate me. I have thought about the Shimano Vanquish but I am hoping for a non JDM model. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@davidvanmaanen-icperch2797]

@@familybudgetfisherman I'm not sure if they are available in the USA. Yes its from the JDM Shimano-Jackall rod series. We-us Europeans-have a totally different approach as our species differ. We mainly target northern pike, zander (bigger brother of walleye) and perch (up to 7LBS). Tight lines my friend

[@arnemueller2112]

Nice vid Mali...you got an amazing casting technique! I knew this rod will blow you away. By the way....this Fins line seems to be pretty loud, isn‘t that annoying for you? Greetings from Germany and have a nice week.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thank you very much! I have spent a lot of time fishing under low bridges and long tree limbs. So I had to develop another way to be successful I get into these fish! 😆😆 as for the loudness of the break, it annoyed me when I first started using the line but Power pro, the previous line I used, was just as loud and annoying. Having said that I have not had any guide issues since I have been using the #finsfishing products. I did with Power Pro, including Slick 8 and Slick 8 v2. You were correct with what you knew! I was completely blown away by especially the Poison Adrena because it was so short. However that zodiacs/Vanford Combo was just as surprising. I am extremely humbled to hear from Germany. I love the country in the history of the country from a biblical perspective and it’s on my bucket list to visit!!👍🏿

[@arnemueller2112]

@@familybudgetfisherman thanks for your kind answer Mali. Whenever you manage to come to Germany, especially the south-western part, consider yourself as invited 😀. Although the younger history of Germany is rather bad I really appreciate your kind words....

[@TCoop29016]

Nice vids, any tips on how to get that poison adrena/Vanford combo for $400?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for watching the videos. At the moment, 10% off seems to be the best offer so far. If something does arise, I will make it known in a new video and on the @familybudgetfisherman instagram channel. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@Howie_fish]

Awesome video. Thank you...imo price doesnt reflect quality. In my case, I've a 7 med st croix legend xtreme fresh version...tho I loved the rod, I used the daiwa rebellion more and like the way that rod feel. Rebellion spec is 7' medium...planning on picking up the poison adrena or the new expride

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I agree wholeheartedly. High price does not equal great quality. Especially now that a lot of fishing equipment is going up in price with no increase in quality beginning February 1, 2022. No one can say that the aforementioned increase is as a result of innovations in technology. Both of your rods are excellent rods to take out on the water. The legend extreme for finesse applications and the Diala rebellion for reaction applications. If you have to choose, buy the Poison Adrena over the Expride. That said, try to get them both. Thanks for watching the video. 😂😉👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@user-th7tq8gf2o]

good afternoon, please tell me how do you think shimano zodias 270ml-2 cope with wobblers or jerkbait in size 110??

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Thanks for the question again. Lol! I hope the answer I just posted will be OK. If you have any other questions, please post them.

[@exconcurly]

Male great review,where is the best place to buy the fin 40g line

[@familybudgetfisherman]

They have a website (with great monthly specials) www.finsfishing.com.

[@zackmorehouse]

Have you done a series on baitcasting real under 120 type comparisons?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

No. Since I am primarily a Spinning Rod angler, my reviews are based on spinning rods. That said, many times I talk about the production and use of these rods based on the blank and the rod's construction which surpasses wether or not it becomes either a baitcast or spinning rod. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@mag1063]

You have me think about getting a rod soon !!! 🤪

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Which rod are you thinking about? This is a great time to purchase!! 👍🏿

[@MrRednexus]

How's the sensitivity of 2020 zodias compared to poison adrena? Is it night and day???

[@familybudgetfisherman]

The Shimano Poison Adrena is definitely more sensitive than the Shimano Zodias. However the difference in the sensitivity is not extreme. It is merely noticeable. Zodias does have an advantage over the Adrena with respect to the rod’s length. So if sensitivity is your primary issue then choose the Poison Adrena Spinning Rod. However if you need a longer rod you will have to go with the Zodias. Both rods are adequately priced.

[@MrRednexus]

@@familybudgetfisherman thanks you! You're awesome

[@mauro4156]

Hi friend, which zodias rod would you recommend for a van ford 1000?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Hello! I recommend either the 6’9” (medium or medium light) or the 7ft light.

[@mauro4156]

Hello, thank you! Would your pair with the zodias spinning rod 7-14lb 270H, it’s a 7ft rod.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

You are welcome! 😀. If I understand your question the 2020 Zodias spinning comes as a 270MH, 270H. So I would pair the Zodias 7ft MH with the Vanford 2500, 3000, or 4000. All 3 models balance very well with the Zodias. I also like the Shimano Ultegra 3000.

[@mauro4156]

@@familybudgetfisherman hi, listened you, and just bought the zodias 268ML 8lb to pair with van ford 1000. thank one more time.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Congrats! You will love that combo! Please let me know if you catch your PB on it!

[@camboviet316]

What about the 7'6" K2 phenix rod? I was wondering if it's better than the Poison Adrena?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Yes, But Not really 😆… The K2 has a better blank at [im12] 46ton Toray carbon while the Shimano [im10] TC4 proprietary blank construction is equivalent to 40 ton Toray carbon. However the Poison Adrena’s Spiral X wrapping process is far superior than K2’s 3 layer process. HOWEVER, the k2’s Torzite guide system is top of the line and FAR SUPERIOR to the Adrena’s Fuji stainless steel SiC-S K-Type Guides. So with the Adrena beating the K2 on the blank rap and the K2 beating the Adrena on the guides, you essentially have 2 rods that are essentially the same. The better rod would depend on you wanting the better guides for a $200 premium (K2) more dollars or do you want the better rod build (Adrena). 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@camboviet316]

@@familybudgetfisherman thanks for the input. It's hard finding a long adrena rod. I prefer 7'6" spinning rod and adrena only comes in 7 foot spinning rod.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I agree. It frustrates me so much that the poison Adrina series Max is at 7 foot (JDM). I prefer between a 7’3” and 7’8” rod myself. I guess we’ll just keep dreaming or pick a different ride, LOL my favorite is actually the Phoenix M1 Vortex. I throw the 7‘8“ model.

[@camboviet316]

@@familybudgetfisherman I've been eyeing that vortex for awhile but wanting something nicer and well built. I have 3 different phenix rods but just bought me a sustain shamano reel and wanted to pair it up with a higher end rod. Thanks for your feed back and have a nice day and whenever you want to get rid of a nice high end rod that you're not wanting. Please let me know. I can do PayPal. 😆

[@ogamiito739]

My family budget won't be able to afford that combo but I will use my stimulus money for it.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

LOL! There are other combos I have reviewed on this channel that are more moderately priced. Thank you for watching a video. 😊

[@bdg1405]

So the Zodias 2020 must be the better rod of the two you demonstrated...it did land the bigger fish after all. Thanks for the video Malik. (My apologies if I misspelled your name)

[@familybudgetfisherman]

😂😂😆I wish it worked out that way! There are some very inexpensive rods that have caught some big fish. I got a couple of old-school ugly sticks that I’ve thrown to catch fish over 10 pounds. LOL! The Shimano Poison Adrena is definitely a better rod than the Shimano Zodias. I do believe however that the Zodias/Vanford combo maximizes that Zodias rod’s potential. No worries on the spelling of my name. First you were very close and second I knew To whom you were talking. It’s Mali😂

[@bdg1405]

Thanks again, Mali. I have a 7’6” MH Expride paired with the Curado DC151 that I really like for a multitude of things but, that is my only Shimano rod. I have a couple Ugly-Sticks and Fenwick rods in my closet. Without these starter rods I may have never found this passion. From Bass fishing with conventional gear to swinging flies on Spey rods for Steelhead and Chinook to 8x tippet with a #22 midge thrown on a 2wt Winston; I love it all.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

That Expride/Curado combo is an excellent rod/reel combo! I’m sure it’s responsible for a lot of memorable catches. You have an impressive fishing résumé! Fly fishing, Ugly Stick fishing, and Chasing that Chinook and steelhead. Of course along with that salmon and steelhead is the striped bass and the American shad. We have runs of all those fish in the Sacramento River throughout the year. Have you broken or made any personal bests for 2021 yet?

[@bdg1405]

@@familybudgetfisherman Unfortunately, 2021 has not produced any PB record breakers. Much of my fishing in 2020/2021 has been saltwater bass species; Calico, Sand and Spotted Bay bass with good numbers caught but no truly large fish, YET! I have caught Shad stripping steamers on the Columbia River. A good friend of mine makes a fish meal with the Shad and feeds it to his sled dogs. I have fished the American River for “Half-Pounders” with some success but I have never fished the Sacramento however.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Well I wish for you incredible success for the rest of the year!👏🏿

[@72rrwilson]

So is anyone else having issues with these rods breaking??? I’m on my third one that just broke on me. The first one broke at the tip at that time my boy was working at BP so took it back. The second time I just got it back from warranty exchange two months ago or less. Fished with it around 3 times and I baby the damn thing. It broke a quarter of the way from the top while casting. This last time it broke in half while casting. All I use it for is throwing dead shrimp on a 1/16 jig head. It’s the 7’ MH so it should be more than enough rod for that. They travel with rod warrior neoprene covers and neoprene reel covers. All rods ride up in the cab of my truck so no slapping around in bed of truck. I have custom rods by fish stix, J&H and H&H that have never broke once. They treated great as well however not babied like this Zodias. I bought it for the fact that it looked great paired with the vanford. Which by the way is basically a brand new reel cause it spends more time sitting on the sidelines. This is a sad rod!!!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I look forward to your hearing from you on the Zodias unboxing video...👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@raymondjohnson6496]

Do you have the Shimano poison Adrena 6’10 ultra light med A rod if you do is that to much for crappie and blue gills the model number is PAD2610ulma

[@familybudgetfisherman]

No. My most expensive dedicated Crappie rod is the Phoenix M1 7’8” medium action, spinning rod at $178. It’s less than half the price of the $390 Poison Adrena that you referenced. I agree that the Shimano Poison Adrena is overkill for Crappie and Bluegills. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@FinFactorFishing]

18:12 I could argue that there is a better reel for the Poison Adrena, the brand new 2021 Exence spinning reel. I have it and it is noticeably better than the Vanford. The tolerances are more tight, it's lighter, and because it's made of magnesium it's almost like it makes the rod more sensitive. Same could go for the Vanquish.

[@Skullcapped]

I'd agree but the Exence/Vanquish is more than double the MSRP of the Vanford, for most the difference won't be worth it imo.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I appreciate your very thoughtful reply. I may differ with your argument in several instances. 1 - The Vanford was made to retire the 10 year old Ci4 and pair best with the 2020 Zodias, the Adrena, and the Xpride. 2 - The 2021 Exence was made to pair best with the the 2021 NRX and the still reigning champion Conquest. 3 - Over 80 of the Exence and the Vanford are exactly the same. According to their specs on Table Warehouse they even weigh the same 6.3 ounces for the 3000 size. 4 - (lastly) Magnesium vs Carbon fiber is the main difference and in my view, Carbon fiber outperforms magnesium in absorbing vibration, rust resistance, salt exposure, and long term wear and tear. Ounce for ounce I’m going with the Vanford. You got me on the Vanquish. I am not a JDM enthusiast. Pick apart my reply and let know where I may have gone astray, Lol! Thanks for watching. 👏🏿

[@Skullcapped]

@@familybudgetfisherman Very cool that you take the time to write out an elaborate response, cudos! I have a question! I recently got my hands on a Vanford 1000 dirt cheap and couldnt pass up on it and now I'm looking for a rod to pair it with. I fish mainly smaller perch mostly under 2lb (with the risk for the occasional northern pike) and use mainly softlures with jigheads 0.2-0.5oz jig heads. I have decided that it will paired with either a poison adrena or the new zodias as I like rods with a bit more backbone than the expride seems to offer. From what I've understood the poison adrena seems like more of a finesse rod than the zodias and maybe doesnt fit my fishing style as much as the zodias? I fish 3-4days or more a week during season in sweden I prefer rods under 8' if that makes any difference. Keep up the great work, loving the content!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I truly love talking fishing, especially with people who are as thoughtful as you are about the nuances of the equipment. Congrats on getting that great deal on your Vanford! That’s what this channel is all about; giving the best deals that we can negotiate. Pairing it with the Zodias, either the 7’ medium light or the 7‘6“ light would be a better choice than the Adrena. Staying above 7 foot would be best when it comes to casting. A medium light or light would also give you the sensitivity and back bone combination you need for that 1000 reel size without overpowering it. Those rod specs as will also help you in managing some of those larger fish like the northern pike you mentioned. I would love to hear about how well you’re doing on the water once you get that combination established.

[@FinFactorFishing]

@@familybudgetfisherman You got it right that carbon fiber absorbs more vibration... because it absolutely does! Magnesium amplifies vibration, which makes magnesium reels more sensitive (I know you normally wouldn't talk about sensitivity in a reel but with the high end stuff there is sensitivity in reels too). The Excense is also more tight feeling and feels better build than the Vanford. I have both and fish both and the difference is noticeably. I do agree, however, that value for money, buck for buck, Vanford is one of the best reels you can buy. But that doesn't make it the best. And when we're talking sensitivity, on the poison Adrena, a magnesium helps, though it may be an incredibly small difference. The Vanquish is a whole other story. It's lighter and more sensitive and has lower start up inertia than any other reel ever produced. If you're using your rod for finesse applications, then it's performance when compared with the Vanford will be even more noticeable than with any other reel. All in all, I do agree that the Vanford is an incredible reel and not many reels come close to touching it. But the more expensive reels are more expensive for a reason (dosn't mean they have better value for money tho, that title goes to the Vanford 100%)

[@ShanePingStyle]

Subbed 442 Liked 18. Very great video. Let's share and enjoy the outdoor more often in here!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I’m am overwhelmed by your enthusiasm for this channel! I appreciate your support! I look forward to any and all comments you post. Thank you🤲🏿👏🏿

[@andylee128]

Funny, Family budget fisherman with a Poison Adrena and Zodias rods….oxymoron 😂😂

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Some family budgets can afford Poison Adrenas and Zodias rods. My goal is to help expand that opportunity. I don't see the aforementioned as oxymoronic at all. 👏🏿👏🏿🎣

[@richarddeboer8934]

Great sound this braid, sound like a old car on dirt-way 🤐 Tip Daiwa Tournament ur J-braid and maybe put more line on your Vanford too, high end material dont says it all. The Mono back-end only works when your putt under your arm-pit ur agains your body, otherwise got not a real function then optic and pricewise. Got the Adrena awhile its a nice rod but it didnt come from other planet and aliens made it. Have Polish rods too, nano toray so well build super sensitiv too, half the price. NRX U saw how bad its build . . . just good carbon👎 and lighter rods means more money by the big brands. Really there are many good rods by other brands too, but people buy Shimano and look no further little bit of easy buying. Got room full of good new stuff too and compare and sell want I dont like ur comes in the middle of it. See guys with exspensiv material and do the catch more all comes down " how you see it fish dont see the $$$

[@familybudgetfisherman]

There are many opinions on Shimano products. There are also great products from other companies; all over the world. On this channel we discuss many great fishing brands. This channel focuses on getting great deals, so if you like J-braid over other braids, I hope you get the best deal possible. Thanks for watching the video

[@felixliao5801]

cant for that rod selection video. Want to know what those 2 rods from dicks and tw are

[@familybudgetfisherman]

Video coming soon!

[@smokenjoe4022]

Just a observation all that tackle behind you and those vanfords and rods! What kind of a family budget are y’all working with it just doesn’t fit!🤔!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I don't give that kind of detail about my family nor do I ask that kind of personal finance question to any supporter of this channel. That said, if you were a subscriber and have kept up with the videos on this channel, you will find that the purchases were within most serious fishermen's budgets. I hope something is said on any of these videos that will help you to make purchases that do not break your family's budget.