Shinobi | Game Character | Part 2 | Cloth | MarvelousDesigner ZBrush

[@glhrmmarques7134]

I lost count of how many times I came here to get some insight. Thank you so much.

[@IlyaGagarin]

I'm flattered, thank you too :)

[@azaralif4238]

Hai I need talk to u

[@nategreyson6014]

+2

[@paulin2art315]

indeed

[@unnf9971]

Doing the long shin strap wrapping in marvelous? Absolute madlad.

[@andthe.infinite]

thank you for not deleting this vid for the next ten years haha, really nice job

[@leatherslipper3017]

The attention to the details is amazing, you really are inspiring me to improve

[@emberdrops3892]

The bass solo from Davie504 made me sub XD

[@terminalvelocity635]

EmberDrops I confess I had a sudden and spontaneous impulse to SLAP LIKE

[@jokebapack2]

This made me appreciate games more.

[@platano8240]

Great Job this is amazing Im very motivated to get my hands on and start creating , I never used Marvelous Designer I'm stuck on zbrush and maya but your work flow is great and I will like to try that workflow, your work is very inspiring keep it up.. I don't know why theirs a thumb down on this video I hate haters I know theirs always room for improving but da damn a thumb down on this its just crazy makes people not even post anything.. thank you for sharing this wonderful video A++

[@IlyaGagarin]

Thank you for such a kind comment :)

[@chengenhsieh7084]

Hello, it's a great video, may I know how to achieve your bandage snap on leg effect at 11:52? I'm working on a project which have to represent WWII army uniforms.

[@cheriel4712]

How do you achieve such beautifully folded fabric in marvelous? My folds are always really weak

[@turtlemop8712]

Fantastic work! Do you have any tutorials on how to do that leg wrap in marvelous? I’ve been trying to do something similar but mine just flops down to the ground. How do you get yours to stay in place like that? Thanks!

[@BaconPancakes042]

Great work indeed ! Your model looks so nice. How do you manage to have tight bandages like the ones around the head, the legs and the hips in marvelous designer ? I never get something that looks like it was tied to the body, it's always loose somehow. But anyway, wonderful job on your sculpt, i learn quite a few tricks watching these, so thanks for the upload.

[@DG_5856]

Davie 504, nice workflow, marvellous designer seems to be a really good tool

[@darwinnino]

Marvelous debería pagarte por este video impresionante, Gracias por compartir tu trabajo

[@jorgesuarez9033]

Amazing work. Congratulations from Argentina. Really fantastic!!!.

[@Fraktalist]

this is sick!!! just whoa

[@ruslandad365]

Илюха Крутая Работа!!! Ты 2 Ну после Гагарина)))

[@huehue24_]

Woah this is amazing~ also love the music :))

[@wmka]

I'm on Day 3 in Marvellous Designer and found this and was like...woah...

[@SkyyWalkerr28]

Where did you get your alphas for your cloth surface noise? Did you make them or find them?

[@creedolala6918]

This is sick, so much care into so many tiny details most people will miss... some of them probably covered up by other clothing. It must take a long time... do you have to work this much on every character in a game? Do you still make every little bit perfect even with a deadline?

[@TheTyroofToriyama]

I guess it shoulda been obvious but stitching the template of clothing together like it's real is such a crazy translated skill I dno what to say

[@power3ds]

it was really fun watching how you did the leg straps :D

[@IlyaGagarin]

:D

[@fractalelement857]

Did you retopologized clothes?

[@winterwyvern4993]

This is some hight triple a game quality shit love it.

[@riccardom4220]

this is amazing ! thank you for sharing your progress !

[@carlhdz8201]

Hello dude, amazing video, one question on 13:28 how do you hold the ribbon to make the nudge? thanks

[@chopsuey4698]

hold w then click where you want to add the pin

[@evanderdornelles]

man, this is so awesome! how long did it take you to get this good?

[@eddie89104]

Hey man... i am speechless 😯 👌🏾👍🏽

[@3po_Orisen_Sithappen]

how cool is this dame i love it

[@zos6641]

soooooo talented !!! i love it !!

[@LenardoDivina]

Wow! I never used MarvelousDesigner but damn that looks good but also like a looot to get into that software

[@ceningsemila3922]

the basses are really good and the process too

[@Nekotico]

17:24 cloth have the cloth fiber detail already done? how did he do that? im trying to do it by hand but its not looking good....

[@AaAa-up3tc]

You UV your sculpyed mesh to get the fiber going in the direction you want then use surface noise to add it to the mesh

[@monbebenovember7064]

Как человек швейного дела, решила попробовать и глянуть куда применяют MarvelousDesigner. Спасибо, что выложли весь процесс создания работы. Желаю удачи! "Наруто" смотрите? )))

[@IlyaGagarin]

хаха)) Спасибо) Ага, решил ознакомиться с классикой :)

[@luizalexandre2204]

Thank you for showing the process!

[@HDGamingVelocity]

Hi Ilya. Amazing! I was wondering, how you kept the seams from MD. at 8:11 you load up the model, and the vest seems to have the internal stitching from MD? Did you do it manually in Max?

[@IlyaGagarin]

If you add thickness, the fabric will swell and the seams will become noticeable, this is easy to do, just right-click on the fabric and select copy under, or something like that

[@HDGamingVelocity]

@@IlyaGagarin Yea I have done that, but when I bring it into Maya its all flat and not with any seams.. :/

[@joshuaradloff1070]

its 2021 and im still so amazed

[@Techgamerism]

Can you share about how you export between MD and zbrush?

[@marianamartinez5640]

THIS IS SOOOOOO COOOOOLLLLL

[@lorenzomanini1017]

At 4:40, are you cloning the "jacket" and let Marvelous simulate it for give a bit of thickness? With the timelapse is quite difficult to understand

[@hattusa96]

I think he is using layer clone over

[@crimsonBen]

Stunning work Ilya! May i ask you about your way of exporting clothing from MD? When are you exporting "multiple objects" when "single objects", or better, do you offer any tutorials for that one? You earned a subscriber :D

[@IlyaGagarin]

Thanks! You can export as you like, then you can always connect or separate elements in 3D max. No, I don’t do any tutorials yet.

[@reggielapera2910]

awesome!

[@alexsparrow7913]

Шикарно! Удачи в конкурсе!

[@AllThatJuice-]

How do u go about getting nice topology/thickness for sculpting when u import marvellous stuff into zbrush? Plzz post some tuts

[@IlyaGagarin]

I add thickness in 3d max and make a good topology in zbrush using zremesher

[@AllThatJuice-]

@@IlyaGagarin wow thanks for the quick reply, do u use the shell modifier? And also, for ur workflow, do u make sure to have nice uvs when in zbrush ? Again thank you, its hard to get direct help from experienced guys so i really appreciate ur help

[@AllThatJuice-]

Beautiful work by the way, really something to aspire to

[@IlyaGagarin]

@@AllThatJuice- Thanks! Yes, I use shell modifier in 3d max to create a thick layer, I also remove the back side there, if it is not visible. I don't do uv when I start working on clothes, it usually becomes useless when I finish sculpturing because I often move and stretch. I make UV after I finish sculpturing, in order to put the texture on the fabric, for this I use UVunwrap in zbrush.

[@AllThatJuice-]

@@IlyaGagarin

[@enotbert]

Офигеть, дядь. Круто как.

[@Андрэс-х7я]

Великолепно сделанная работа. Смотреть само удовольствие.

[@eegii0554]

Every time i watch this, i get super Pumped Up 💪, Thank you man! you`re Real motivation 🌟🌟🌟

[@IlyaGagarin]

Haha, thank you too, glad you enjoy it :)

[@eegii0554]

@@IlyaGagarin Oh! Btw what is your Intsa?

[@IlyaGagarin]

@@eegii0554 www.artstation.com/gagarin

[@alexilaiho1st]

no kidding, I go from "screw that" to "yeah let's do this" xd

[@Nafiganado]

Смотрю и думаю: какие замороченные раньше были наряды... А сейчас: натянул футболку и джинсы - и вперёд! Жизнь стала практичней и проще... :)

[@1lllllllll1]

And then I look at it in the character outfit menu for 2.7 seconds before deciding I don’t want my character wearing it. SAD!

[@legally_blind]

how do you even get this good?

[@IlyaGagarin]

practice

[@legally_blind]

@@IlyaGagarin :) of course , but since I have your attention CONGRATS for this. Did you go to any school did you take classes from KZbin ? how did you manage to become so familiar with the tools of Zbrush ? did you just mess around till you knew everything?

[@IlyaGagarin]

@@legally_blind There is a lot of information on the Internet. I watched everything I could find, watched a huge number of works by other artists and tried to do the same and of course work in the studio with other artists teaches a lot

[@legally_blind]

@@IlyaGagarin Im mostly interested in Illustrating maybe some animation , or comic so you understand that its every artists dream to see his creations live and breathe the way 3d design does! Good luck in what you do in the future! Thanks for the tips

[@bluethumbbuttoneek9465]

@@IlyaGagarin important mention was " watched other people's flow and try to recreate how they did theres" that's pretty important for learning is trying to recreate and not shoot for being original first but find what methods suits you through following along with others

[@512design4]

marvelous designer . how did wrap the cloth around his bottom leg ,, did use pin to wrap the cloth around the foot - thnk u ..onm the rotation did pin each time then pin again each time rootaed around the bottom leg ..thk u

[@IlyaGagarin]

yeah kinda like that

[@acidghost3540]

This music hits

[@nicolas8741]

Why did you sculpted it? To then make the simulation?

[@GlitchScatter]

Wish I knew what the music was at around 23:00

[@owenccfc4288]

GlitchScatter check the description

[@GlitchScatter]

@@owenccfc4288 I did, its not there... Thus the question.

[@sergey.matrosov]

Daniel Deluxe - Instruments Of Retribution

[@RomboutVersluijs]

So guys are becomming galls now ;) hahaha nice job man!

[@TheDalibor13]

Nice work! Can I buy somewhere that noise cloth texture you used?

[@IlyaGagarin]

Look in the marketplace on the artstation, it's full of textures and alphas

[@michaelsulesky7221]

How are you brush strokes with the standard brush so clean?? Everytime I use it it's so blobby and wobbly

[@IlyaGagarin]

Good question, you need to tweak the lazymouse, make the lazistep value smaller, then the strokes will be smooth

[@youtubeadministration8661]

Илья, сколько ты это делать учился? И ты наверное в компании по производству игр работаешь?

[@Elviramilari]

Hello! Excuse me, what fabric are you using for the hakama? Is it a preset fabric? Nice job by the way!

[@Kcimor78]

Epic!!

[@breakinglimits_mmh]

what did you type to find a reference of the shinobi pants?

[@goaty_club]

Прекрасные модели делаешь, просто шикарно

[@jimmyyang5611]

Hi, Ilya. It was really a great working process. I have questions about marvelous designer functions. When you were wrapping the body and making a ribbon tie on the lower side legs, how did you fix the garment in the air? I saw a brown pin or dot. What's the tool name?

[@IlyaGagarin]

Hello. Thank you) This is a pin, it is activated if you hold down W

[@jimmyyang5611]

@@IlyaGagarin Thank you very much :))

[@jimmyyang5611]

@@IlyaGagarin I have one more question 7:58, 12:40 The wrappings start trembling. What did you do that and why did you do that? I'm struggling to make a ribbon tie now. give me a hint, please.

[@IlyaGagarin]

@@jimmyyang5611 And this moment I added thickness

[@jimmyyang5611]

​@@IlyaGagarin When I make a ribbon, both ends of the string are knotted but passed each other very easily. Any tips for this? I would be most grateful if I get any advice.

[@johanrojassoderman5590]

3:10 making a knot 101 xD Just wanna say that I love your work. This is amazing

[@darilamborena6078]

How do you turn the camera and keep the bandage at the same time? When I turn the camera, the bandage falls off and I can not roll it up

[@AaAa-up3tc]

You stop the simulation, or you have it pinned using the w key and clicking on the area you want to pin, then ctrl+w to unpin when you are done.

[@Fartharderful]

wow this is knots!

[@jackliu8991]

Is there a reason why you redo clothing in Marvelous Designer? I thought you already did the clothing. Or maybe you redo it in MD because you think it look better that way?

[@henriquestealth9480]

That's a good question because he did all the clothing before in Zbrush and after that he start do the same process again in Marvelous Designer and I don't know why!

[@ryeb]

The other version was a first pass, like a sketch or block-in. If he used that for the final it would look amateur. Making the clothing properly in marvelous gets the most believable and best looking results.

[@jakeholden7532]

Congratulations on 3rd place (Should have been 1st ;) ) I already posted about how amazing and inspiring this piece is. Can you give any information on the Fabric settings/presets/details that you use in Marvelous Desginer? Particularly for the Haori/Jacket and the Bandage/Leg wraps. Thanks a million for the videos anyway. Really educational. :D

[@IlyaGagarin]

Thank you very much!) In Marvelous Designer, I usually use the basic fabric settings or set the Denim preset, for most fabrics, this is enough

[@jakeholden7532]

@@IlyaGagarin Right, thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm usually getting some unexpected results in MD. But probably need to work on my 2D Patterns and make sure my Layers are correct. Cheers.

[@biriani2855]

How did you export from marvelous to zbrush?

[@kearakim000]

May I ask the reason why you enable shell option when you export to 3ds max? I normally turn it off just because it feels easier to control I guess.

[@subhamsarkar7765]

Why you import your marvelous designer clothes into 3dsax before importing it to zbrush?????????

[@chrisSandersASX]

interesting workflow

[@ferxx0294]

Amazing! Im trying to do the same technique but cant find good patterns for the hakama, could you share it with me, please?

[@BelluSanus]

why do you use MD if by the looks of it you can create the same thing in zbrush?

[@friedrichpilon3074]

Do you have a spotify playlist with all this music?

[@raidsgamerpro]

We canot learn from this video

[@NasSombras]

Very good

[@beeclair480]

How is the fabric not intersecting itself?? especially in the part when he is doing a knot

[@a.h1804]

awesome！！

[@Thomas22134]

How did you get it to actually work?! every time I sew something together it BREAKS

[@leegbeng134]

做的太棒了！！！学习了！

[@Anonymous_User69]

Great artwork and good timelapse, really helped me! Btw what's name of the first song?

[@Pasktomten92]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/marXqnSdqp5gmKM This cover here, it's a good channel!

[@derekfume8810]

Мощнейшая прога этот Марвел дизайнер

[@cloudsyler4541]

Hello! This video of you is one of my favorite videos for 3D art. Im leraning with it for 4 years already and i watch it very often. Thank you for sharing you workflow. I just have a couple of question if you dont mind. Iam struggling with MD to Zbrush. When i made some Clothes in MD and i want to export it to zbrush, the topology is of course a little bit off. So iam using Zremesher. But with Zeremesher im losing alot of details from MD, like the seams etc. Are you using Zremesher as well or do you handle it in some other ways to keep these details? My other Question is, if i want to have a higher subdevision in Zbrush, to sculp some more details, everything gets smooth out. Even, when i use the smooth brush, iam losing the seams and i getting holes. Is there any way to avoid this? Thank you very much for any help and answer!

[@IlyaGagarin]

Hello! Thank you, glad you like it) Are you using projection to transfer details?

[@cloudsyler4541]

Thank you for answering! To be honest, i never used projection before. But i can give it a try! @@IlyaGagarin

[@Dude707LoL]

This is a bit of a noob question. But after this stage, how would you go about doing the cloth simulation for animation? Would you then create a low poly version of the clothing and then simulate them to use in game? Would really appreciate any answers or pointers :)

[@IlyaGagarin]

As far as I know this is done in the engine, after the character is completely ready, you need to select polygons that will be simulated as clothes and then the clothes will be calculated in real time, respond to the movements of the character and the wind. Like here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIDRhaKZpqmLmqM

[@WARDISWARD]

And I always thought people were modelling those clothes in Z brush

[@Optic.97]

Nice work! I wonder if you have this as a tutorial on Gumroad? I'm really curious how did you make this clothing inside of MD

[@craftiv]

good work !

[@N_kidman]

Дружище, есть вопрос касательно процесса работы. Каким способом ты делаешь ретопологию экспортированной из марвелуса одежды? Зремешер после ретопологии не даёт рабочую сетку, обычно тут или там на меше разрывы появляются, будто не реагирует на кнопку weld points. А работа крутая , тут сто процентов лайк.

[@IlyaGagarin]

Спасибо, я зремешем делаю, не знаю почему у тебя не получается, возможно значение ставишь слишком маленькое

[@mobin8515]

Hi ilya. i have a question about your marvelous designer to zbrush workflow if you still look at the comments . do you use the exported marvelous designer mesh(quad or tri ? ) and sculpt on it right away or you retopo it and then do the sculpting ?

[@IlyaGagarin]

The whole process is long to describe, but in short, first export to zbrush, make basic edits, then zremesh, project, add thickness and remove unnecessary polygons from the back side. Perhaps there are better ways through max or maya, but this is how I do it now.

[@braynhermamdoacevedocarril7515]

Hello I like your work, but I would like to know how long it takes you to make a 25 minute video at that speed?

[@shropid]

А мне вот гизмо в максе понравился. Точно не промахнёшься :)

[@13anki]

Hello, May i know how did you give textures to the cloths ???? Is it you alplied in zbrush or did it In MD and imported it?

[@IlyaGagarin]

I added a texture in zbrush through the Surface Noise

[@globglob3D]

So all the clothes you sculpted in part 1 were just.. for fun?

[@IlyaGagarin]

In the first video, I made a base mesh, it is done to quickly find the right proportions and understand what needs to be done next, but the quality that turns out there is not good enough for AAA games

[@islamtokaev4196]

изумительно!

[@ElhartiVision]

BRAVO

[@evgeniy87al]

Привет. А можно спросить, что именно происходило на этапе, когда геометрия из Марвелоуса перестала быть таковой и появилась равномерная сетка с уровнями сабдивов? Zremesher + Project? я просто не совсем представляю, как тут можно было всё это дело запрожектить. Или может Project здесь и вовсе не использовался, а просто в ручную уже дорабатывались все детали, которые могли потеряться при использовании Zremesher?

[@IlyaGagarin]

Да Zremesher + Project, вполне нормально проджектит, бывают баги, но с ними не сложно бороться, можно радиус уменьшить проджекта или маски использовать или просто замсузить баг и доскульптить

[@evgeniy87al]

@@IlyaGagarin ок, понял. Я думал слишком много кусков ткани, которые прилегают друг к другу вплотную и использовать Project проблематично. Я обычно избегал такого варианта) и видимо зря, значит работать всё же можно с этим. Ладно, спасибо за ответ.

[@CreativoErratico]

Real time timelapse? Can you do a color black and white one, too?

[@danielgagnon5001]

Hi!, question from a newbie here! Can somebody tell me why did he make the clothing on zbrush last video, I mean, why didn't he directly made them all on Marvelous? Is it because the ones made on Zbrush last video will be the ones used on the low poly, and the ones he made on Marvelous during this video are intended to be used for the high poly?

[@IlyaGagarin]

in the first video it's just a concept, I made it to find the right proportions and understand how the character is built

[@danielgagnon5001]

Omg, this concept could have been my high poly :O I still got a lot of grinding to do to reach that level then!!, And wow thx for that fast answer directly from you! Subbed and followed on Art Station!

[@dimaonsa1299]

Ты в 3д максе что делал с элементами одежды?