Captain Marvel Loves Valkyrie? The Ship The Actors Want? - Captain Valkyrie

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@texmex007
@texmex007 5 жыл бұрын
1Oh ho ho, yes. 2. Besides Carol x Maria, I definitely like Brunnhilde x Carol too haha. Also Thor and Carol are definitely for me brOTP. 4. I think the actress' involvement is fun and I admire that they're having fun with the ship just like the fans are.
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I can see the appeal of them all, plenty of Captain Marvel to go around. I love their interaction too, I hope it keeps being perceived by fandom as fun. Initially thee interaction from the Voltron voice actors was viewed as fun, and that mutated horribly. Lol I'm still traumatized.
@youraveragemusicperson2176
@youraveragemusicperson2176 5 жыл бұрын
@@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 oh god no I remember that.... lets hope this stays fun and positive
@ainsleemcnamara7514
@ainsleemcnamara7514 5 жыл бұрын
"Lesbian Icons T'Challa and Thor," is like my favourite running Tumblr joke/thing. I embrace it wholeheartedly. I love Carol/Val (as I do all MCU femslash ships, they're underrated but good) Also I've always loved the way the MCU actors interact with fans and shippers, it's been in my experience always very positive, and it's fun to feel like you're being given the keys to the sandcastle as it were by the actors/creative staff. EDIT: Also we could always just OT3 it. Carol/Val/Maria ftw!
@corsothewolf8911
@corsothewolf8911 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a really good mirror to "gay icons Lady Gaga and Judy Garland".
@dantemoore7669
@dantemoore7669 5 жыл бұрын
Ainslee McNamara wth is femslash
@Andjelka99
@Andjelka99 5 жыл бұрын
Even tho CarolxMaria is to me basically subtext cannon (look at the comparison with main Skrull guy and him finding his family) this CarolxVal is great too, especially when Thor the matchmaker is involved haha
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I love how Thor's been through all this trauma and people are like his main concern matchmaking!
@Andjelka99
@Andjelka99 5 жыл бұрын
@@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 well he is God of Lesbians ❤️ hahaha
@oof-rr5nf
@oof-rr5nf 5 жыл бұрын
OP, did you too watch Rowan Ellis's fantastic video on the subject?
@anon9359
@anon9359 5 жыл бұрын
I love when actors/actresses/writers/creators/etc support a ship. 🥰 it makes the pairing seem more validated in a way... Not to say that I feel like we need permission for a ship! Just that... it’s genuinely nice to see when they’re able to get why us fans like the pairings we like, or at the very least, not shame us for liking them.
@oof-rr5nf
@oof-rr5nf 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, to me it feels great simply because this means they support the possibility of their characters getting into queer fictional relationships. That is always, always better than the trend of making fun of shippers and fan artists like they are delusional as used to happen in Late Night shows (donno if it still happens but I refuse to check). Which was always insulting and cringe-inducing.
@mariisnugget8406
@mariisnugget8406 5 жыл бұрын
You: Space Girlfriends: Carol and Valkyrie Me, and intellectual: Carol, Valkyrie, Mantis and Nebula
@anabsolutehoot302
@anabsolutehoot302 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest I definitely prefer Carol x Maria (they're basically raising a child together and they have actually interacted on screen) but this I'm always open to multi- ship and this definitely seems cute
@bottlenose.dolphin
@bottlenose.dolphin 5 жыл бұрын
trust me I love carol x Maria but I like valkyrie too, especially since carol and valkyrie age slower (carol has kree dna) and valkyrie is asgardian, and at endgame time Maria is in her 60s
@celestialangel666
@celestialangel666 5 жыл бұрын
Oh crap now I’m torn, because Carol was helping raise a smol child who is possibly grows be awesome superhero too, but then Valkyrie needs love too and that’d be awesome and damnit I go for both!
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 5 жыл бұрын
Ship all the ships!
@nbucwa6621
@nbucwa6621 5 жыл бұрын
OT3
@lizzychrome7630
@lizzychrome7630 5 жыл бұрын
What if Valkyrie *is* Monica?
@celestialangel666
@celestialangel666 5 жыл бұрын
@@nbucwa6621 I mean that just means the tiny girl who is ready to befriend aliens and go into space now has another person to look up to while being a superhero. Also Armed Services are... we spent a lot of time together. TMI ends up being the rule of the day. So yes, there would be "Oh, badass who can also shoot things too while I fly? awesome, now I have TWO women to keep me safe while I dogfight."
@ladyarrogance
@ladyarrogance 5 жыл бұрын
@@lizzychrome7630 possibly bit incesty (if you think Carol and Maria as Monica's parents), but i like the theory! 💜
@1025littlefrog
@1025littlefrog 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here for Carol/Valkyrie, Carol/Valkyrie/Thor, Valkyrie/Thor, and Carol/Thor!
@fovika
@fovika 5 жыл бұрын
No hulk?
@alexhagane3543
@alexhagane3543 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, all of it but Valkyrie/Bruce too (Carol and Brunie tag teaming on Thor sounds so interesting)
@loganpalpatine5189
@loganpalpatine5189 3 жыл бұрын
What if Valkyrie and Jane Foster
@EmoDramaDork
@EmoDramaDork 5 жыл бұрын
I have really been enjoying watching this ship develop. The fact that the actors love it too is just even better.
@mariana.b.r
@mariana.b.r 5 жыл бұрын
Yesssss I've literally been waiting for you to make a video about theeem, let's goooo
@youraveragemusicperson2176
@youraveragemusicperson2176 5 жыл бұрын
I think its so great that Tessa and Brie tweet with each other and that they support this ship, and it means a lot more since it is fem-slash. I think this ship is so cute and definitely ship it in fanon, but if it were to be canon, I would love to see more in depth into their characters and have some development between them. But there's also Carol x Maria.... eh whatever, my multishipping ass ships both XD SHIP ALL THE SHIPS
@youraveragemusicperson2176
@youraveragemusicperson2176 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I got a heart, thank you queen
@TheOneTrueErica
@TheOneTrueErica 5 жыл бұрын
The world needs more positive, fandom-focused channels/people like you, dear.
@oof-rr5nf
@oof-rr5nf 5 жыл бұрын
They really do!!
@magicalgirl4
@magicalgirl4 5 жыл бұрын
Let the new OTP rise! And the new BROTP with Thor and Carol grow!
@magicalgirl4
@magicalgirl4 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that’s why I said they’re a BROTP, which is a purely platonic relationship
@jay__birdie
@jay__birdie 5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the two being a couple, and the fanart I've seen has been sooo cute! Personally, I cant say if I ship it or not, as in my opinion, neither character has been fully fleshed out enough, nor have we seen either of them in a confirmed canon relationship, which tends to make it difficult when gauging how the two would act if they were romantically involved. I am, however, totally for this ship and those who ship it, and absolutely adore the fan content that comes from it! Plus, I love the idea of Thor being the one to set the two of them up. God of Lesbians indeed!
@RGld-jg8rs
@RGld-jg8rs 5 жыл бұрын
I ship Captain Marvel with Valkyrie more than Carol and Maria. If we consider the logistics it's gonna be heartbreaking seeing Carol cope with Maria growing old and dying while she lives on. Because Valkyrie is an Asgardian she can really be with her.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs 4 жыл бұрын
Kree age slower than humans but do they age anything like as slowly as Asgardians?
@moontears3887
@moontears3887 5 жыл бұрын
I adore Carol/Maria but Carol/Valkyrie sounds awesome too 😍
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse 5 жыл бұрын
I hate when people accuse the actors of queerbaiting and "making promises they won't keep". This is so completely out of the actors' control, especially in a massive production like the MCU.
@jetstar157
@jetstar157 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen the birth of this rare pair on Tumblr, and have watched it rise to the small fandom it now has and I have got to say: I LOVE IT! The actors sharing cute fanart with one another is a great bonus too. I ship Carol with both Maria & Valkyrie. For me, I view Carol & Thor, and Valkyrie & Thor as a brOTP. As well as Valkyrie with either Loki or Bruce. I have been submersing myself in all the cute fanart people have been making, and it makes me really happy to see the fandom come together for a cute rare pair like this. I love the many ships that can bloom from something so small in the first place. Thank you for making this wonderful video. I really enjoyed it!
@KagetoraHikaru
@KagetoraHikaru 5 жыл бұрын
I like how flirty the MCU bunch is :D and I will always give plus points for that. I guess it helps that the godfather of MCU is RDJ, who always seems like a very cuddly flirty type and going just by his interactions with people, could be shipped with about half the universe :D. I did notice them sharing the fanart with comments and it was a sweet moment
@Formoka
@Formoka 5 жыл бұрын
I was on board for Carol + Rhodey, but I'm getting drawn into the Carol + Valkyrie idea.
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634
@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 5 жыл бұрын
Lol Why not both? *Road To El Dorado Clip*
@yew_nork
@yew_nork 5 жыл бұрын
@Jmoney J The comics
@ina1IK
@ina1IK 5 жыл бұрын
1) yes Tessa’s tweets made me aware of it 2) I sure do ship the hell out of it 3) as long as the people involve are respectful towards the shippers and those who don’t ship it it’s all in good fun
@nishab31
@nishab31 5 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this! 😁
@geccec3533
@geccec3533 5 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE, MORE *FEMSLASH-CENTRIC* videos! I'm parched. 🙌✨
@heatherhawkheart
@heatherhawkheart 5 жыл бұрын
Ooof I love your videos and I should really comment more so here's my take. Thank you for providing us with these videos, they're great! 1 & 2. I became aware of this ship last weekend, after I went to see Captain Marvel for the 2nd time. I saw it on Tumblr, and thought "ooooh that IS great" and then I saw the fanart that Brie Larson and Tessa Thompson exchanged, and now I absolutely support this ship. That one where Captain Marvel is carrying Valkyrie bridal style is the cutest damn thing I've ever seen. 3. Although I do ship it, I'd like to answer this one anyway. I really do like the idea of the Maria x Carol ship, it's great and has a lot of canon to support it. However, I do wonder what happened to Maria after the events of Captain Marvel. Will we ever see her again? I sure hope so. 4. I LOVE when the actors or actresses acknowledge the shipping fandom. It makes me so happy that they would also approve of such a pairing, if it were to be written. In a lot of fandoms I'm in, actors tend to fuel the ships for the fans and I think it's fun. It's not their fault that the ship isn't written into the the show or film, they didn't write it after all. I think it's quite supportive of them to be so open and respectful about it.
@kateh.7407
@kateh.7407 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I really like the idea of this ship, it’s cute af. But in that same breath, Rhodey is a ridiculously underrated character and a relationship with someone as prominent as Carol would probably be a great way to bring him the spotlight and care he deserves. And let’s be real. Rhodey is wonderful, Carol would be treated like the queen she is. But overall I don’t really have a preference ship-wise.
@Antisocial_Knightz
@Antisocial_Knightz 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god... I didn’t know this ship existed, but I already love it.
@clauds1746
@clauds1746 5 жыл бұрын
This ship is so cute I love it. When the actors get behind the fans it makes it all the better. If you wanna talk cute femslash ships with great actor support you gotta talk about juliantina (it’s been all over tumblr for weeks!)
@jackyoh971
@jackyoh971 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't knew the shipping before this video But now I ship it... I SHIP IT HARD!!!!!
@skivy5116
@skivy5116 5 жыл бұрын
I’m always in for femslash ships!
@katisawriter
@katisawriter 5 жыл бұрын
I looove this pairing!! Valkyrie/Carol/......me? I mean think about it, the small, useless human who somehow captures their hearts? I can’t help my love of self inserts! Don’t @me. Don’t worry about the sound, it’s not bad enough that it distracts from the video. Your alien self has been revealed though. Do you need to go into witness protection? 🤣
@mephybooks7309
@mephybooks7309 5 жыл бұрын
i saw it on twitter, but had no idea whee it came from, thanks for explaining.
@TheShadowchiefstudio
@TheShadowchiefstudio 5 жыл бұрын
I consider myself a multishipper, I can see the potential here and ship it for sure. Can't say I was comfortable with a few dunking on Thorvel/Cor (I don't know the ship name yet), there's no reason for that and I'm just a little tired of the needless conflicts after the past few years of tense fandoms I've been in
@mieroth
@mieroth 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I came out of Captain Marvel not shipping her with anyone and appreciating all the friendships in the movie, but when that Endgame trailer dropped I was all aboard the Thorvel train. And it's fine for fandoms to include many popular ships - what's NOT fine is people attacking other people for their ships, and sadly I see a lot of this on social media with people getting attacked for shipping Carol with any man (but especially Thor, since that's turning out to be her most popular het ship - so far - in the fandom). It's a real wtf moment for me, it's been a while since I've been involved in a true shipping war and it's still early days but I hope it doesn't escalate beyond this.
@singrins2585
@singrins2585 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I did not think of this pairing at all. Not really into femslash but I support those who do.
@lizzychrome7630
@lizzychrome7630 5 жыл бұрын
I'm straight (if you can believe it) and I was already shipping it. But, may I suggest a more poetic name for the ship? *A Valkyrie Carol* I was previously shipping Carol with Sam Wilson, before seeing "Captain Marvel." (Due to their both being in the Air Force.) I still think that ship could work, as Carol and Sam have similar types of humor IMO. But then the trailer came out, and made me Carol/Thor (MarvelHammer? *Marvelous Hammer* !)... and then the lesbians arrived, and now I'm shipping Carol hard with Valkyrie. Also, I'm now imagining Thor saying, "I think it's great that there are lesbian warriors. I remember hearing of the ferocity with which they fought in battle. I used to want to be a lesbian when I grew up. Before I learned that they were all women."
@amandak.5967
@amandak.5967 4 жыл бұрын
you're good at ship names! but what would Carol and Sam's be? CapFalcon, Marvelous Falcon, SamCarol... :)
@lizzychrome7630
@lizzychrome7630 4 жыл бұрын
@@amandak.5967 I like Marvelous Falcon!
@emily14092
@emily14092 5 жыл бұрын
I think they are completely adorable but still badass! I love it, the carol/valkyrie ship and the actors positive and fun interactions!
@susie4560
@susie4560 5 жыл бұрын
Carol & Maria is personally my favourite but I would definitely read a fic with Captain Valkyrie in it. I may just have a huge thing for femslash & would read most of it anyway.
@nbucwa6621
@nbucwa6621 5 жыл бұрын
I never would have know about this ship if it wasn't for your channel tbh as I'm one of those who are not on twitter, haven't seen Captain Marvel yet and haven't kept up w fanart of late. I am absolutely stoked about it. Femslash feels like a desert sometimes but this is definitely a ship I can sink my teeth into. Actors definitely fuel my fandom and I don't think I would be into half the ships I am (esp w marvel) if it wasn't for the actors interactions. I honestly don't see Brie Larson or Tessa Thompson encouraging a cannon pairing between them as queerbaiting. In the end Marvel will decide and the only weight they (the actresses) can put towards swaying that decision is by continuing as they are and allowing marvel to see the fan reactions to the idea.
@leticiacsan
@leticiacsan 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't shipped anything in a long time, but oh boy, Captain Marvel sure brought it back with the "best friends" montage. Now, Carol and Valkyrie sounds so awesome and it has very good shipping potencial for me. I don't think I'd enjoy it as canon because Carol and Maria is the couple that should be out and proud. Thor and Carol are so best friends and no one can convince me otherwise
@alexhagane3543
@alexhagane3543 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda shipped Valkiria with Bruce, but this is better. Q: is anyone talking about how lately the is a lot of canon femslash? That's a good topic
@christinawheeler3275
@christinawheeler3275 5 жыл бұрын
I ship this so hard. So, so, SO hard.
@harlanhardway5955
@harlanhardway5955 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about this ship but I LOVE Valkyrie. SO MUCH. I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet but it looks good... I could be down with this ship, I'd probably have to watch the movie first though, lol. I definitely don't ship Valkyrie with any of the dudes. I actually really loved how she was shown as having a very bro kinda friendship with Thor and the Hulk, there aren't that many depictions of women and men being friends sans any kind of sexual tension. Regardless of her sexuality, I thought that was a great. Men and women can be friends and equals and work together without sex being a thing: it's totally a thing that happens and is real!! Things I support: more romantic same sex relationships being represented and more NON-romantic opposite sex relationships being also represented!
@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312
@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312 5 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of this ship but I am now fully on board full sail ahead!!!
@asf8648
@asf8648 5 жыл бұрын
I like pretty much all the Carol ships. I'm into dark stuff between her and Yon -Rogg, Carol/Maria, and MarVal (as I've seen this ship be called). I think the idea that actors/creators supporting smaller ships is "Queerbaiting" is ridiculous. Actors have no control on the script they are given, and creators and writers deserve to be able to interact in fandom too, especially in comics where most writers grew up as fans of the material they work on. In general I think fans should view creators as people who just want to have fun and interact with their creations, rather than devious people trying to foreshadow canon development via Twitter likes. As fandom grows more mainstream and people who ship go on to make their own books/comics/movies/ shows, we can't just excommunicate creators from fandom all together.
@xenafan15
@xenafan15 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t ever thought of it... now i definitely ship it lol but carol and Maria= amazingness ❤️
@harlequeenchannel
@harlequeenchannel 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one of the best feelings in the world for me is not only when the cast acknowledges a ship, but joke and support it, as it makes it feel like it's ok to like (and/or want) these two together.
@benblack4778
@benblack4778 5 жыл бұрын
I ship her with scarlet witch
@benblack4778
@benblack4778 5 жыл бұрын
@@leilaosley4416 captain marvel
@circuitsandwires4661
@circuitsandwires4661 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Halford if vision were to stay dead, I probably would end up shipping that too hahshs but I have too much love for scarlet vision rn
@blackmachine312
@blackmachine312 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, that’s necrophilia
@gizmoe6791
@gizmoe6791 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t aware of this shop before I saw this video but now I find myself beginning to ship it. The armada of ships I support has another ship in it now thanks to this awesome video.
@fantarayss6069
@fantarayss6069 5 жыл бұрын
I ship Carol/Maria, Carol/Valkyrie, Carol/Jessica Drew and Carol/Rhodey oops
@Broadwaychica
@Broadwaychica 5 жыл бұрын
I HAVE heard of it and dig it, though I prefer Carol/Maria and Valkyrie/Okoye, but as a multishipper i can play in numerous sandboxes. Also this super reminds me of a brief time when Cartinelli and Skimmons had vocal support from the actresses. It makes me smile to see this tradition continued.
@wwbwbgohbc
@wwbwbgohbc 5 жыл бұрын
that femslash playlist is missing some SuperCorp :-P
@clarekent4110
@clarekent4110 5 жыл бұрын
1.) I was aware of it, I follow a lot of Femslash tumblrs (hello from the apocalypse, I'm still here) 2.) I like both these characters but I really can't ship characters that have never met, I just need more to go off of. I'm a huge Valki (Loki x Valkyrie) shipper myself but I don't particularly ship Carol with anyone yet. 3.) I don't really pay attention to actors opinions, sometimes it's nice when they agree with me but it doesn't mean much to me or change my opinion
@CthulhusBFF2
@CthulhusBFF2 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of femslash ships, do you plan on doing anymore Harley x Ivy updates in the near future, like how they were confirmed to be married in Injustice 2 #70?
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 5 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this ship and I ship it, I also ship Carol with Fury and Steve so I am a multishipper. I also find it quite wrong to say that it is homophobic to ship Carol and Thor, shouldn’t a fan have a right to ship what they want to?
@emz3211
@emz3211 5 жыл бұрын
I love femslash and I headcanon both Val and Carol as bi/queer, but idk I kinda prefer both of them single, or for Carol to develop a very very close but not romantic bond with Thor? idk, I feel like I haven’t gotten to see enough of Val and Carol yet
@mschrisfrank2420
@mschrisfrank2420 5 жыл бұрын
I usually go for OT3’s over OTP’s, so I love Carol/Valkyrie/Loki
@roguerach4050
@roguerach4050 5 жыл бұрын
1.) yes I am on this ship! 2.) I would be okay with a Captain Thor pairing but I’m not as into it. 3.) I love that tesa and Bree are into it. If the MCU wanted to do this ship I think that having both actors behind it would bring something special to the screen. Not just reading a line but giving representation which both actors seem to care a great deal about. I am not going to hold my breath but I can’t think of another platform better then the MCU because the love story wouldn’t be the focus but something that is going on during something like saving the world. I don’t need a straight up love story. Just two powerful women finding growth with each other to get threw other obstacles.
@tamerafarly7666
@tamerafarly7666 5 жыл бұрын
1) Yes, I was aware of this ship. I read an article about the actresses shipping it. 2) Yes. I do ship it. Post Endgame. I'm actually more of a Maria/Carol shipper. 3) I also ship Valkyrie/Hulk. Not Bruce. Just the Hulk. I thought it would be an interesting love triangle Bruce and Natasha vs Hulk and Valkyrie, lol. (Of course, I'm hoping for Steve x Natasha in endgame if Stucky doesn't happen) 4) An Actors involvement makes me like it more if the actor is supportive. Like Misha Collins with Destiel. How do you feel about Supernatural coming to an end?
@Vega_Pendragon
@Vega_Pendragon 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we are all forgetting that Maria died they establish that in WandaVision
@EdslilNeko
@EdslilNeko 5 жыл бұрын
1. I was aware of it, yes. Mostly through cute content on tumblr that was showing Thor setting them up, which I still think is hella adorable. 2. Do I sail the ship, ahahahahaha... yes. I ship all the things. Mostly. There are some I don't like, and they would be much easier to list tbh. I like Maria and Carol too, tho, also adorable, especially with Maria's little girl and the three of them getting to be a badass pilot/superhero family. (As an aside, why are so many characters in Marvel comics named Maria?? Somebody needs to link some of the writers to a baby names website or something, there are so freaking many, usually background, characters with that name. Maria Hill, Iron Man's Mother, Carol's bestie, etc I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like an unusually common name in this universe) 3. I like Valkyrie with Thor, and Valkyrie with pretty much any cute ladies. And if she wanted to cross dimensional lines to carry me off into the sunset I'd be down for that too, just sayin'. As for Carol I like her and Maria when it comes to the movie, from what little I know of her in the comics, her and Rhodey's relationship was pretty cute. 4. I think that it depends on the actor and how they're going about it? But I only know of two examples of celebrities seeming to endorse a ship and I find both of them enjoyable so... (Tess Thompson and Brie Larson with CaptainValkyrie, and also RDJ and Chris Evans with Stony. And RDJ and Mark Ruffalo endorsed Science Bros once that I saw, but I dunno if that was in a platonic way or not. )
@Nico-jx2nl
@Nico-jx2nl 5 жыл бұрын
I really do love Carol Valkyrie ship and I love how Tessa and Brie reacting. It's so supporting for fans. And thank you for this video, it was amazing. Hype Carol+Brunhilde❤💪😂
@skallywalla502
@skallywalla502 5 жыл бұрын
I am all for this ship and love that the actors support it - but I know that doesn't necessarily mean anything for how it will be portrayed. I'm also all for Dambeau. I ship Carol with any of the kick-ass women basically! Also, I don't know if you take requests, but there is a lesser-known Doctor Who ship that's fascinating in that it was confirmed as canon by the actors, showrunners (pre, during and post season) and was in the script, but the majority of the fandom completely missed it. It was a delightful little slice of fandom that was mostly fluffy, flirty, smutty and an extremely positive space. It was Whouffle, the pairing of the Eleventh Doctor and Clara Oswald. I've been in fandoms for going on 25 years and I have never seen such a subtle canon het pairing that was completely missed by almost everyone. You could even call it "The Ship That (Almost) Everyone Missed" It got slightly more complicated when Peter Capaldi was cast as Matt Smith's successor, but it actually (inexplicably?) drew more people to the ship despite the huge age gap, where it was now dubbed Whouffaldi. No longer canon (Clara was given a new love interest) there was nevertheless a strange dichotomy in how their relationship was portrayed from episode to episode, like the writers couldn't decide. The Doctor made fun of her and was sometimes outright demeaning but also displayed undeniably jealous behavior towards her new beau. The showrunners and actors were now vocally anti-ship, but then the next season this changed again, the showrunner pointing to episodes from the previous season and saying that the Doctor's comments about her appearance were him trying to convince himself that he didn't find her attractive. The season was centered around their "crazy about each other" (from the actors) relationship and became again a subtle canon ship that while not sexual had undeniable romantic undertones. That once again, the majority of the fandom completely missed. This despite the fact that the Doctor had gone to the absolute craziest lengths he'd ever gone just to get Clara back. Maybe not healthy, sure, but...also not something you do for your good ole pal. 😏 Anyway, your videos are such a breath of fresh air. So thoroughly researched, incredibly thoughtful, resolutely fair-minded and even-keeled and as always, edited beautifully. You tell a coherent story within each and I find myself watching videos about pairings I've never shipped just because I'm interested to see what they're about and because I know I'll learn so much from your video essays. Thanks for being such a thoughtful, intelligent, fair-minded space in the fandoms. 💜
@DavidMacDowellBlue
@DavidMacDowellBlue 5 жыл бұрын
There was a sweet few months there before the most recent season of GOT when Emily Clarke indicated support for "Iron Dragon" but alas nothing happened in that direction. Too bad.
@Brevincampbell12
@Brevincampbell12 5 жыл бұрын
This is a fun concept for a channel Subbed:-D
@ScottishDragonNinja
@ScottishDragonNinja 5 жыл бұрын
Fair play on them for having their ship, Carol hasn't clicked enough for me to really get behind her with anyone else. Particularly Valkyrie who I feel all the feels for. Endgame might change this, who knows? Also I know they're probably just having fun but it does kinda feel like they're pushing it a bit too hard? I feel it'll add fuel to the ship-hating-and-shaming hydra. On a side note? I'd be super keen to hear your thoughts on the fandom fading into the background again topic. Sounds intriguing and you always have interesting stuff to say!
@canniblanch
@canniblanch 5 жыл бұрын
I rarely have bicycles but Valkyrie is definitely my bicycle for the MCU, Carol/Brunnhilde is just another ship to add to that lmao
@8mad
@8mad 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this pairing, but I am here for it!
@coraphoenix-price3270
@coraphoenix-price3270 5 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who felt that energy between Loki and Valkyrie, Lokyrie shippers where you at?
@matt0044
@matt0044 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that there's a video's worth of discussion regarding this surge in "Strong Female Characters" discourse and how it ties into shipping at times.
@dianaburyk4816
@dianaburyk4816 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I can't choose between Carol x Vakyrie and Carol x Maria. This ships are both amazing
@NotMeNotYouNotAny1
@NotMeNotYouNotAny1 5 жыл бұрын
this is a wholesome ship. i love it. same with carol/maria. thanks for this video.
@parkerdymond1084
@parkerdymond1084 5 жыл бұрын
i can't believe i hadn't heard of this; it's so cute
@jerilynbridges1740
@jerilynbridges1740 5 жыл бұрын
I crossed them over: Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman!
@redmorgan8843
@redmorgan8843 5 жыл бұрын
Had the exact same thought at the end of Endgame!!
@ceilidancr
@ceilidancr 5 жыл бұрын
I really ship Carol/Maria, so it makes me sad to think of them not being together. But I love both Carol and Valkyrie, and I think some onscreen interaction would push me further into shipping them. I’m open to multishipping, and I can’t say no to femslash! We’re overdue for some canon queers in the MCU and I would be so on board if it was these two. I love that the actors ship it, how cool!
@Ella-pn1yb
@Ella-pn1yb 5 жыл бұрын
1. I imedietly shipped Brunhilde and Carol, even before I saw captain marvel 2. I also ship wonderwoman/Valkyrie which is unfortunately really small :( 3. Yon-Rogg and Carol is amazing, it's the first dark ship I've ever been drawn too and I love it so much
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 5 жыл бұрын
i'm kind of partial to mass femslash. what i mean by that is maria x valkyrie x carol x Nebula could totally be my ship. or just a mass thing like every female character with each other in a OT20
@SheddedSnake999
@SheddedSnake999 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely ship those two.
@sketchingspidey1661
@sketchingspidey1661 5 жыл бұрын
I don't ship it, but it was good to finally see why other people do 🤗
@GlytcheD
@GlytcheD 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't particularly like Cpt. Marvel, and I especially don't like Brie Larson, however I welcome all ships as they are a vessel for creativity. Edit: grammer
@Vanagandr99
@Vanagandr99 5 жыл бұрын
It is also important to look at the male female ratio before condemming shippers, for example Lord of the Rings: It is in my opinion extremely hard to find a femslash pair to enjoy there, simply for the reason that there are just a handful of female characters, and most ships tend to be male slash because of it.
@ThisIsWhoWeAreToday
@ThisIsWhoWeAreToday 5 жыл бұрын
have you done a video explaining the citrus scale? that would be really cool to learn the history of lemons
@BubblegumGirl366
@BubblegumGirl366 5 жыл бұрын
I ship it. I really did and do still ship Valkyrie and Thor but I really do enjoy this ship
@edwinjardin7692
@edwinjardin7692 5 жыл бұрын
*Drinking coffee* *sees ship* *spits coffee*WHAT!!!
@CendaquentaBooks
@CendaquentaBooks 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard of this ship I was kicking myself for not thinking of it sooner. YES PLEASE I LOVE THEM. 😍😍😍👩‍❤️‍🚢 I support Carol/Maria as well, but after all there is a 20+-year gap between _Captain Marvel_ and _Endgame_ so it's possible that she could've just drifted apart from Maria in that time.
@aceeweed8658
@aceeweed8658 3 жыл бұрын
Im a multishipper. I ship valki and captain val.
@hopeheartflia6442
@hopeheartflia6442 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh, so, Yes, I knew of the ship, Thor has been dubbed god of lesbians for a while, and people were trying to integrate Carol into the Avengers, so after I went to see Captain Marvel I saw a lot of stuff about that, and I also saw Captain Valkyrie And yeah, I definetly ship it, the joys of being a multishipper, But of course a little bit of fleshing out of both would awlays be welcome, but I am rearely NOT on board when it comes to most femslash ships
@rascal342
@rascal342 5 жыл бұрын
1- definitely. I was there when the “we cute” tweets went viral. 2- I really like Valkyrie and Carol but I also ship Fury and Carol. Just a bit. Also in a brOTP way. The chemistry between them is so great that any kind of interaction is fun. I headcanon that anyone who meets Carol falls at least a little bit in love with her. 3- I think the actors supporting and fueling this ship is great. It comes across as very genuine, not playing up the fans reactions. It confuses me how someone could see this as queer baiting. They aren’t promising the fans anything. I’m in favor of more positive interaction between actors/writers and the fans/fandom.
@ShersterQ
@ShersterQ 5 жыл бұрын
It's cool that both actresses are on board with this one... But why? Maria is already there and Carol/Maria is cute as heck.
@samkresil6011
@samkresil6011 5 жыл бұрын
1:07 Spider-Man: Homecoming`s in there, boo! I`m putting TASM films in there.
@fourcatsandagarden
@fourcatsandagarden 5 жыл бұрын
My only struggle with this ship is rooted in how hard I ship Carol with Maria, who she was raising a child with. But also who she left (even if for good reasons, she still chose to leave her family on Earth). But also who may still be alive on earth, even if in her 50s or so in current MCU timeline. But I am also not opposed to Carol and Valkyrie, it's just not currently my top personal interest. I would definitely love it in the MCU, especially since it is long past time for SOMEONE to take the leap and have some active LGBT+ rep appear. But I am also beyond over "romance" in the MCU. I'm down for Tony and Pepper because they have a long, built history, and I loved Peter P's first crush ending as poorly as it did and I like that Gamora was interested in her Peter but was also not about to put up with his manchild ways. As for the rest of them, good riddance! I'm glad most love interests were jettisoned. I actually hope Dr. Strange remains just friends with his apparent love interest and I almost hope we never see Sharon again because it is all just so boring and badly done. I don't want Thor paired off with the next hot girl he has a good laugh with. I really just want him to have some friends, especially since, yknow, his mom is dead his dad died in front of him his brother is most likely dead (also done in front of him) his home is exploded (and on his command no less) and he had a sister who killed a lot of his friends and people and then he watched Thanos kill more of his people and Heimdall and now half the universe is dust because he wanted to get revenge more than he wanted to end the threat to the universe. He needs some friends right now, and he deserves friends like Carol. As for fandom.......well, why cant Carol be with Valkyrie and Valkyrie be with Carol and top off the threesome with Thor Hemsworth. If you wanna go full shiptastic, just toss all three in a pot and shake. (Also I love that the actresses are into it. They aren't the writers, directors, or producers and they aren't even promising anything. They're just interested and cool with the idea. That's not queerbaiting. For me, that's more hope in a bottle that their encouragement may encourage some actual decision makers to maybe start to step up. And also it's nice to see famous people being well treated by their fans and happy with their fans and not embarrassed by their fans. It almost feels like it's been a while since that's happened.)
@emebrennan4966
@emebrennan4966 5 жыл бұрын
Maria x Carol x Brunnhilde/Valkyrie
@SpringDragonfly15
@SpringDragonfly15 5 жыл бұрын
1. I heard about it and I like it. I'm fond of Femslash and want more Valkyrie. 3. I'm a bit cautious about actor endorsed ships because of the RWBY fandom and the massive Bumblebee backlash. The ship was supported by the VA of Yang and later Blake, and that may have lead to some rabid fans. The war between Bee shippers and Black Sun shippers is still raging. Then again, the writers did a terrible job executing it and probably dragged it out on purpose.
@ladyarrogance
@ladyarrogance 5 жыл бұрын
i'm sold! Carol/Brunhilde is my newest ship for Carol! 💜 but as i have said earlier, MCU is really everyone/everyone for me. Nat/Pepper, oh yeah! Nat/Wanda, yes please! Carol/Maria, such sweet, such beauty! Carol/Brunhilde, that's hot! xD i'd really like to know that is the thing in MCU that makes me not form definite OTPs (which i prefer in other fandoms), but ship everyone with each others. at the moment i lean on explanation of "really large cast if really interesting and well written characters", but as same goes for other fandoms, too (AtLa, OUaT eg.), which i don't experience the same reaction, i guess it really isn't that...
@teammeteamus.8315
@teammeteamus.8315 5 жыл бұрын
1. I wasn't aware of this pairing, but it makes wonderful sense to me. 2. I think racism has something to do with people being against Captain Valkerie 3. Racism and Queerphobia is a horrible mix that makes me despair 4. In a world of fiction anything can happen, so I honestly don't understand people 'ship shaming' this couple. 5. Both actresses need to bring out a line of body armour, as they look so good in it! I wanna look good too!
@sophiafrost3786
@sophiafrost3786 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Carol×Rhodey. HOWEVER, I get down with Carol and Brunnhilde. Its refreshing to see a femslash pair get some sort of recognition. Because let's face it gayships usually get the most press. Dont get me wrong Thruce and IronStrange is my shit. But I like the idea of more ladies getting together
@ranyashannun5659
@ranyashannun5659 5 жыл бұрын
No thank you I want Thor and Valkyrie
@somestuff7876
@somestuff7876 5 жыл бұрын
1. I wasn't, but I can clearly see the appeal. 2. Carol and Maria makes most sense to me. As for Valkyrie... idk probably with Carol lol Fem ships not my cup of tea in general. It just was hard not to think about Carol and Maria in romantic sense. Positive opinions from actors is a bonus, nothing more.
@espressomagic948
@espressomagic948 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy... here I go shipping again.
@iceadonis6340
@iceadonis6340 5 жыл бұрын
I thinks it's Maria, but I want to be surprise!
@godemperorofmankind3.091
@godemperorofmankind3.091 5 жыл бұрын
"all ships are valid"? Really? what about Darth Sidious x MCU Spiderman?
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